Is ham radio the most autistic tech related hobby?

>A hobby based entirely around communicating with others

No

>>58722940
K keep me posted

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>>58722940

Ham is #2

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Lots of girls are into ham radio, so no

Tune into 8992 usb HAPPENING

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there is nothing autistic about this

>>58723032
They probably get lots of attention for being a girl with a sexy voice, meanwhile in reality they are 400 pound slobs

>>58722940
Most of them are autistic old men, but a few are actual tech niggas who actually develop shit like communication protocols.I like to fuck around with rf but I would never join a ham club because those guys are worse company than far sjw whores.

>>58723450
*fat

>>58723032
>women can't be autistic

ham radio is cool and good

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>>58723726
>women can't be autistic

this autistic girl had to celebrate her birthday alone in the arcade cause no one she invited would come

>>58723052
>Are you winning honey?

>>58723763
this has to be bullshit
i guarantee some faggit white knight would gladly accompany m'lady

>>58723763
i didn't need the feels today.

>>58723763
That's not autism, those are genuine feells
I hate you for posting this

>>58723763
>given life on easy mode
>still fail
how why

>>58723054

I think you are talking about the internet...

>>58722981

This seems like the only rational answer.

If ham radio is autistic, then the internet is x10 autistic.

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>ham

Gay.

>>58722940
It is but it's also gonna be one of the only means of communication when shit finally goes down.

>>58722940
No. Speaking from experience, gamedev is the most autistic by far. Surprisingly, hobby programming language developing isn't very autistic at all. OSdev, not so sure.

>>58722940
Hams were the original Neckbeards and Wizards, show some respect you millenial piece of shit.

>>58724051
That would be the MIT model railroad guys.

>>58724028
only if you have your shit sealed in EMP-proof bags and own a hand crank. otherwise you are fucked like everyone else.

in 5 years all of this autistic looking equipment will be incorporated into a single smartphone app called iHam Pro

>>58724068
who were also into ham radio. the original autistic dorks before digital computers really came onto the scene were fucking around with radios, the telephone system, and model trains. not so much anymore but there used be a ton of ham radio satellites launched into LEO and you could talk to someone pretty far away for a couple of minutes as it passed over you.

>>58722940
>>58722981
>>58723960

Isn't autism a disorder/illness that also can be manifested with extreme human contact?

>>58724084
nice one, dad

>>58724074
there's not gonna be time for any country to trigger an EMP

>>58722940
It's pretty autistic. I never talk or contribute to HAM threads because its just full of idiots spouting memes that have no idea about what they say. The attention to absolutely every detail is what makes it fun for me.

>>58724095
>who were also into ham radio
Fair point.
>there used be a ton of ham radio satellites launched into LEO
The awesome thing is that we may see hobbyist smallsats become financially tenable in our lifetimes. Since such things more work than most people are will to do on their own, it could make meatspace hobby clubs matter again.

>>58722981
Using the most inconvenient method possible in order to talk to the world's most dull people (if you actually make contact).

No thankyee

>>58723763
Wrooong. Her parents would have not left her alone if that were the case

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>>58722940
No. Model trains are.

>>58724215
enjoy being isolated once the bombs fall pleb. I will be ordering my japanese waifu

>>58723940
probably cant wipe her ass or something

>>58724269
only if you'Re making a big deal out of them

>is radio autistic?
no

>Are hammers autistic?
As fuck.

My buddy was fucking around with packet networks (cool stuff), set up something like 1200 baud connection. Over SSH.

What hammers in the area did?
Started sperging and tried to doxx him because ssh encryption and "i can't listen what you do :<<<"

>>58724215
>most dull people
dullest people.

>>58724295
I ham radio like a discord but for oldfags

>>58724318
>dullstest

>>58724295
Why even use ham bands?There's literally hundreds of MHz totally empty after digital tv arrived

>>58724288
haha, of.. course not.

>>58724295
pretty much this.

hammers are complete spergs.
it's a "no fun allowed" hobby.

for that reason I think of CB as a better alternative.

Nothing funnier than talking shit over CB with your mates on the highway only to hear a cop join the banter.

>SSTV
https://youtu.be/XOh2IGU9Vfk?t=4m17s

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>>58724253
>>58723940
>>58723932
>>58723907
>>58723844

>>58724388
Doxx you? Do you even know what you are talking about?
CB is absolute trash, and so are you.

>>58723985
care to tell me about this setup?

>>58724501
t. HIDF

fuck yo regulations

>>58724388
It is always fun when your mates imply you did a crime over CB.

There is one thing that really pisses me off in our modern world and society.
>>58723940
Nobody ever takes in mediacompetence into the equation. Somehow everybody thinks more is better and easier. It gets harder the more shit you have to handle. Back in the days you were left or right. Nowadays you are left, right, alt-left, alt-right, gay, bi, hetero, black, jewish etc.

That can make it harder than easy mode looks like.

I am seeing this on other people as well as on me.

>>58723763
;_;

>tfw you have your own pirate radio and trigger hamcucks

GET OFF MY FREQUENCY REEEEEE

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>someone makes a ham thread
>dig out heathkit hw 101
>power it up, call my hardcore hamtard neighbor an old cunt
>take pics
>post on /g/
>put it away and wait for a new ham thread

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>>58725052
Also ignore my purple AR
Instead, check out this piece of 70's sexyness

>>58724962
how do you stop yourself from spending all day triggering hamcucks in this manner?

it would be a problem for me

>>58725052
>>58725072

very nice

however you lose points for not even including a "sup /g/?"

>>58723763
:(
Shit happens, kids are evil, if you forget to invite Jenifer and she is firend with Laura and Rachel, those two will not come because it will hurt their friend all this causes a chain reaction where no one will come.
Pro tip, onli invite friends, not classroom "firends"

>>58723054
That 400 pounder must be an exception. I present a girl doing high speed morse:https://youtu.be/b9S-NzsUD5w

>>58723032
Any hobby where you can be a slut, there are women.

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>>58725440
>>58723054


I mean just look at this QT. Lots of attractive women are into radio hobbies these days.

>>58723763
spent my last birthday alone eating takeout pizza and playing genesis games.

I was as sad as she is. I feel for her.

>>58724962
Greentext some of it.

>>58723450
>Most of them are autistic old men
I have no idea where you have this idea from.

My impression from my time as a mil. morse code operator was that most of us also took a civilian license. Many hams are former sparks from the merchant marine (where many were female) and the military.

>>58725467
>Lots of attractive women are into radio hobbies these days.
It was when I studied to become a morse code operator.

>>58725467
>these days
>1984

>>58722940
Besides actually saving lives, AM radio is an awesome way to spend your free time.

>>58725467
>these days
>current year-33
>she's gone cock-eyed
OH GOD THE EYE

>>58724514
It is an Elecraft portable HF radio, one of the best there is. I want one.

>>58722940
I thought about getting my ham license until I figured out who was on the radio. Everyone you hear sounds like asperger's or autism and I realized they were the people you'd be communicating with, so I bailed.

>>58726181
I am impressed. How do you tell by listening to the morse code that the sender is autistic?

When I served I could tell by the fist who was transmitting. Everyone has a characteristic fist. I just never knew you also could tell if someone was autistic.

Considering that ham is the predecessor to bbs I'm sure it's completely filled with autism

>>58723763
b-but i'd go

>>58723763
>19
>having your birthday party at chuck E cheese
>having a birthday party that isn't a house party with booze
>being unattractive
>wondering why nobody wanted to go
Definitely autistic

>>58724270
Well, fuck.

>>58724427
that's pretty sad.

>>58725467
that's a nice looking array of antennas.

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>>58723763
Wow thats depressing.

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>>58723763
I didnt ask for this feel

>>58726274
>When I served
no one cares, you retarded welfare queen.

There is absolutely nothing good about having a license.
1.callsigns are no authentication (anyone can pretend to be you)
2.As soon as something fucks with government-owned links, hams are the first to be rounded up and interrogated.
I've seen it happen 4 times now.

If you wanna chat or exchange files over the air,get Lora modems.They can achieve extremely long range with less than 1W output in urban conditions, and some even have built it encryption.

>>58726407
>being unattractive
idk dude...would definitely tap

>>58724427
Those 'facts' are seriously fucking stupid.

>>58724427
>terrified of squirrels

>>58724331
Whom dulltest

>>58722940
Not when things like /bst/ and /guts/ exist, sorry OP.

ham radio hobbyists are usually old men. one of my EE instructors is really into it and some of his radio buddies come into his office occasionally and they look like they are 70 year olds

>>58722940
No, gaming is.

>>58723985
what is that itty bitty keyboard?

>>58722940
i like to listen to HF, and i like SDR radio software, i love Linux but SDR software on Linux sucks and lacks features, so i keep a laptop with Win7 for just that purpose, i have HDSDR running with a SDRPlay which is cheap but lots better than those RTL-SDR dongles, i am thinking about buying a CloudIQ from RFSpace soon for a little over 600

>>58728280

what entry level SDR do you recommend?

>>58726407
I'd hold her hand and kiss on on the cheek :~3

>>58724295
how did they "try" to doxx him? if you've got someone's callsign you have their name and address through the FCC license lookup if you're in the US.

but yeah, hammers are a bunch of old fuck "no fun allowed" pieces of shit like the other guy said

>>58726542
>As soon as something fucks with government-owned links, hams are the first to be rounded up and interrogated.
I've seen it happen 4 times now.

spoon feed me please, i don't know what you mean by this.

>>58724427
>>58723763

WHO IS THIS I WANT TO SUCK ON HER TOES

>>58728192
Rapoo or rappo

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this thread summed up

>>58722940
It becomes so when the radio directly interferes with my speakers in my home

Also this shit looks outstandingly over engineered can't you just use an antenna and your computer

>>58725220
Not what my parents told me

Why must they tell lies

>>58724143
Don't nukes cause EMPs when they detonate? I remember reading that somewhere, but I'm not sure about the area of effect.

>>58724427
> Massachusetts
lol deserve it

>>58724589
lol fag

>>58726455
What Illusion game is this?

>>58723450
> niggas
Get >>>/out/

>>58724074
> EMP-proof bags
So wrapped in tinfoil?

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>>58731920

The effects are debatable - only the DoD/DoE and the Russians equivalents really know for sure.

That said, Lockheed Skunkworks/Boeing/Raythoen have partnered to developed an EMP weapon that pods into hellfire missiles. It's capable of being 'used' up to a half dozen times per 'sortie'. Tested in 2012 - deployed thereafter. Aside from not requiring a nuclear blast - it also invalidates most countermeasures since being hit for a 2nd time wasn't really considering.


[1] http://www.boeing.com/features/2012/10/bds-champ-10-22-12.pa...

Also most EMP proof devices really need to be grounded when the attack takes place. Again, without classified knowledge these bags and cell phone case type things are likely bunk.

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>>58722940
>falling for the artificial ground meme
Why not a real ground or a counterpoise?
t.hamfag

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>>58723763
She got a shit ton of cards from people who care. It made her very happy. This story has a happy ending.

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What is the legal status of sending encrypted things over public radio?

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>>58724962
Literally no pirate is fucking discourteous enough to intrude into the ham bands. Idiots who get busted do it but we take extreme pleasure in hunting them down and unleashing the FCC on them.

Nice bait though, you try this ever ham thread, guaranteed replies.

>>58725052
Sweet rig anon, any mods?

>>58732103
No, for obvious reasons, unless you are controlling a spacecraft with your amateur radio.

>>58732133
>obvious reasons
the obvious and logic answer would be that the concepts of illegal numbers is fucking retarded and ridiculous so of course the is no law regarding them
you seem to be claiming otherwise though
care to explain?

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>>58722940
No this is >>58722550

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>>58732166
>be Cuban or North Korean spy
>use ham radio to transmit espionage reports and receive orders or even targets for assasination
>"LOL officer don't be retarded there is no such thing as an illegal number!"
This has happened, except even fucking spies are not autistic enough to attempt the "LOL there is no such thing as an illegal number or person you shitlord" retardation you just spouted.

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>>58732218
am I being trolled, or are we really letting this kind of person in here now?

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>>58732243
Why don't you argue about it with the FCC? You seem to think that I care that you're retarded. I don't and I seriously doubt you'd ever bother with anything more technologically challenging than a phone anyway.

You got your you, now go to bed. You have school in the morning, don't want to miss the short bus.

>>58726475
>no one cares, you retarded welfare queen.
Of course you care. Otherwise you hadn't written this tragic little rantlet. As for "welfare" I have been in private practice for years now and pay taxes to support people like you.

>>58728357
rtl-sdr.com has a lot of recommendations, and check out the quick start guide. You can get going for USD 20.

>>58732166
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

the is no real enforcible law but try distributing keys to encodings and you find yourself in exhausting legal battles against corps.

>>58732762
Transmitting an 'illegal number' over ham radio is in fact a violation of numerous Federal laws and regulations, up to and including possibly espionage.

Just like, having a number or writing it down isn't illegal, and you can probably print it on a shirt and shit, but you can't transmit in violation of your FCC license.

This is what makes >>58732166 a fucking retard, and outs him as a millennial libcuck. He literally thinks that ham radio is a free for all.

>>58732192
what's the source of this? I want to watch this.

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>>58726154
It's worth it, I have a tricked out KX3 with all options including the PX3 and KXPA100. One of the finest receivers ever put into a radio and this includes the shit that only governments can obtain.

>>58732166
Crypto over radio is too closely related to espionage and the US is known to respond fast and brutally:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius
From trial to execution took one month. No appeals, straight to the electric chair.

>>58722940
HAM radio is literally for autists who are too afraid to go outside or can't function properly outside.

Proof:
https://youtu.be/0LYYneMSdVQ?t=1m23s

>>58728156
>ham radio hobbyists are usually old men
was a member of a local club for a couple years back in 2010 or so, can confirm

most weren't in the best of health either

actually got kinda depressing getting the emails every few months that another of the older members was gone

the few younger people there were mostly either kids/grandkids of older members (fair few middle aged guys there with teenage kids) and a few younger blokes into 4x4 and shit

>>58733152
fucken mint

i want that setup for home use since all my existing stuff is mobile

>>58733476
Also look at the KX2, which is new. It doesn't do 160m though, but this band is pretty difficult to access because of the antenna you'd need.

>>58722940
No.

It's really weird though when you're in yuor 20's talking to people in their 60's

>>58733700
Get off the repeaters!

>>58733634
A loooong enameled copper wire isn't too hard to use. I once had to use a telephone wire once as an antenna to get the signal where I wanted it during massive QRM.

>>58733435
Many are retired from army, navy or merchant navy. Ham is also popular among the disabled.

It is sad to see some selling off their equipment to pay for treatment as the health insurance has stopped.

>every few months that another of the older members was gone
We call them SK, Silent Key. Radio comms has had more abbreviations than texters and for a longer time, like Q- and Z-code.

>>58733727
Ya and I operate 160M portable because I can't currently fit a proper antenna on my lands.

>>58728357
i would at least get a SDRPlay either the first edition or the second edition, those RTL-SDR dongles will disappoint

>>58733634
I can't use 160m without a licence upgrade anyway. 80m is as low as I can go without studying for ages and taking the top-tier licence test

>>58733727
Less ex-military where I live (melbourne, straya) but there were a lot of guys who used to work for telecom companies and the like. Most of our military is far away from this commie enclave of a city.

>It is sad to see some selling off their equipment to pay for treatment as the health insurance has stopped.
Not a thing here due to our public healthcare but I saw the same thing every now and then when someone was moving into a nursing home and they'd have to give up all their kit or at least thin it right down to a couple handhelds and one of the smaller mobile-friendly rigs like an IC706

Clubs get stuck with the post-SK estate selloff too since nobody else knows what to do with half a house full of ham radio shit (or the family knows it's the only way they'll get decent coin for it since it's way more of a niche hobby here than in the US)

>>58733950
Have you tried a thin copper wire attached to a helium filled weather balloon or a kite balloon?
http://www.qsl.net/g4vgo/antennas.htm

What do you do with a ham radio? Just talk to other autistic people who have radios?

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>>58734893
you can also use satelittes to talk to other autistic people.

or if you're lucky call up some autists on the ISS

>>58725984
Oh no, she's just looking at the camera and the v photographer at the same time

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>>58722981
>>58724215
ham radio is the old person version of social networking in which you are much too scared to see their faces and you can push a button at any time to end the conversation. It couldn't be more autistic for its time if you have it outside of a truck.

I know a couple old people whose friends have all died, they forgot how to make new ones because the last time they did it was 40 years ago. They all are friends with the mailman because he's the only one that comes to them and will agree with them on everything because he doesn't want to disrupt his route.

>tfw just got my first radio a few weeks ago
It's just a cheapo Baofeng but still, been fun scanning. Only shitty part is that the nearest place to get my license is a 6 hour round trip

>>58735080
>I know a couple old people whose friends have all died
So, are you dead then?

>>58724095
>used be a ton of ham radio satellites launched into LEO and you could talk to someone pretty far away for a couple of minutes as it passed over you.
I've been meaning to listen in on some conversations over a satellite, seems neat as fuck

>>58735213
Where did he say he was friends with them?

>>58723763
good. all screeching autists deserve to get beaten to death

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>>58722940

Was really interesting hobby during 90s with everything being analog. Internet and cell phones killed the magic long time ago.

Still have quite a few radios in storage but only really use rtl1090 stick from time to time.

Was anyone into cell cloning back in a day like oki900? Had cloned nmt450 Benefon phone and cloned rds pager since Europe.

speaking of radio

hows cb radio doing? Especially now that they recently opened up 12W ssb in europe?

>>58735365
I just love when children try to act edgy on the Internet

>>58735548
in Germany it's seeing a slight revival.
There were some range contests in 2016 and also other people are discovering it as a hobby.

Sometimes people even do PSK or APRS over CB-Radio

Anyone ever tried foxhunting?

>>58726407
Now that I'm an adult with a good income, a house, all the booze I could want, and all kinds of tech toys and games, I really do miss being a kid and the wonders of an afternoon at Chuck E Cheese playing the games with a few friends.

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>>58723763

Even her granddad (pic related) didn't show up because he had other things he'd rather be doing.

>>58735659
>falling for the consumerism meme

wew lad

>>58725838
Saving lives in the absolutely improbable situation that you still have electricity but no cell phone service.

>ham saves lives!
is the biggest self-congratulatory bullshit out there

>>58735957
>you still have electricity

>he doesn't have battery and solar backup

it's like you're not even insa- a prepper.

>>58723932
>Autism isn't a real thing that causes many feels
And today anon learned why calling people autistic is mean.

>>58726586
Well it's the girls mom or sister or whatever
She's not a professional at making unpleasant people seem sympathetic.

This is what professional work looks like:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-shooting-victims-1.3958191

Does anyone else listen to websdr and the repeaters on broadcastify?

>>58732051
iirc pretty much all military grade technology can handle an EMP
this might be effective at disabling sophisticated terrorists though

>>58734614
Good idea, but I live too close to a military air station to try that (500 yards or so). I'll figure something out sooner or later.

>>58735244
>Where did he say he was friends with them?
Where I live, far from edgytown, when you say you know someone it is implied that you are friends.

>>58735365
>Complaining about autists ... on 4chan.
New here?

>>58736413
What the hell does being edgy have to do with it? I know plenty of people I'm not friends with. I'm positive you do too.

How expensive is it to get into this hobby?

>>58737915
Receiving: around 20 bucks and you'll get a cheap RTL2832U
RX/TX: More than 20 for sure.

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>>58724514
The middle part is the Elecraft KX3 HF radio. Pretty good stuff.
At the top is a pan adaptor, that basically is a spectrogram that tells you what is around your frequency band.
The KX3 supports digital modes and the keyboard suggests that is what it is used for here.

Normal mode is morse code and voice but many digital modes are also supported. Those are useful for long haul communications.

>>58724353
>There's literally hundreds of MHz totally empty after digital tv arrived
Do you believe bands are just free?

Some bands are quiet because they are reserved for emergencies, just moving in on them will have a lot of consequences.

>>58723054
A pussy is a pussy.

>>58728357
Get a cost free feel for it by going to http://websdr.org/
Especially http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ has a very, very wide coverage.

>>58737915
~$30 for a cheap transceiver given you've got some repeaters in your area and ~$15 for your license

>>58722940
did some guy who likes ham radio take your girlfriend or something

>>58733197
Things have changed since the 40's.Now you have perfectly legal iot rf links in a lot of big cities.Most of them are encrypted since they are connected to the internet and might pose a security risk.

>>58737915
VHF and UHF are boring as hell,so you'll probably need at least 400$ for a decent HF rig.Voice is shit but you can chat with people on the other side of the planet with digital modes like thor.

>>58741597
>perfectly legal iot rf links in a lot of big cities.


Nearly all of these still operate within ISM bands (433/900mhz,2.4ghz). These being things like 802.15.4 devices. The exception being milspec stuff that does a wider spread spectrum hopping.

Large commercial carriers are moving to LoRA/Sigfox/whatever which still use the ISM bands - but up on cell towers.

t. built a large iot network in my city years ago

>>58722940
Considering that my grandfather is one of the most neurotypical people in existence and he is a ham, I say no.

> hams thing you have to take a test to operate
> Hams think the FBI/CIA/secret service are going to bust down your doors for banter on the air cuz you didn't take a stupid test

Hams are wrong. Don't cause shit on military or emergency bands and it's free game.

>>58722940
Audiophiles.

>>58742633
Lora is amazing.Me and my brother use them for chatting while I'm more than a mile away at work.It's kinda slow but it's perfect for short text messages.
It's only 100mW so it's completely legal where I live so nobody can give me shit.
You just plug it into a usb to ttl converter and use a terminal program to exchange text and shit.

>>58723985
That's actually a dope setup but sadly ham ugh

>>58726586
Probably someone who doesn't know her well. Or trying to be quirky( interesting) with a few

>>58732025
I think he means esd bags Haha

>>58735607
Is arps legal there? I though that was a big no no

>>58742812
you have to pass certain tests to transmit on certain bands legally. anyone can recieve without a licence.

the FCC enforces the rules not the FBI/CIA/SS

>>58736162
There's no way that's true

>>58743578

I think we all know the FCC won't do shit.

Like I said don't fuck with emergency or military and you're good.

Hams are the type of people to read the rules for Jenga and enforce them during a friendly game

>>58743686
Except for the part where all those guys who did take their tests will report you when they figure out you don't have your license.

>>58723739
Recursion is always good and cool

>>58743686
I'm not saying its common but fines do happen and they are usually not cheap

https://transition.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/Welcome.html

In general hams are very pedantic and the hobby is self policing, most likely if you are in violation you will get ratted out or reported by a fellow ham

>>58741597
>to a millennial, ultra-low-power ISM band communications is the same as amateur radio inside the ham bands
you're fucked in the head mate

>>58724215
>he never experimented with digital modes

the joke is all hams are converting over to voip, they are just now entering the Xfire generation level of talking to people around the world

dont tell them skype exits

>>58744014
Encryption on amateur bands is still illegal last I checked but it's one of those things where they just look the other way

Investigations are expensive and time-consuming.I have a sdr in my workshop and I sometimes listen to the local repeaters.
People jam the repeaters every single day and there has been only one bust in the last decade,and the dude was a ham himself.
Regardless of what hams think 99% ham clubs are nothing but a burden to the government.

>>58744014
You can get better results on UHF with a lora modem than with those 30 year old radios most hams still use.

>>58743894
This, we love busting little idiots who intrude. The FCC takes action on these reports and many precious little idiots have had their fun time turn into massive legal issues with the Federal Government.

This little liberal is in every amateur radio thread trolling on this topic every time and it sure gets (You)s.

>>58744039
No they don't. You're talking out of your ass here. In fact other hams will look at a signal that looks encrypted and if they can't decode it, they will report you. Additionally, automated direction finding equipment is installed all over the nation and globe looking for this kind of shit.

You're just talking out of your ass.

>>58744134
your government has no authority over us, we can broadcast whatever we want into your country, your wall will never block radio waves

>>58722940
dildos, are def, most autistic

>>58744161
I'm not talking out of my ass, I'm posting what I've read.

>>58744164
>we can broadcast whatever we want into your country, your wall will never block radio waves
Mexico has been really good about abiding by the ITU's regulations for the last few decades. Or just pay cartel members to fucking skin your whole family alive once we locate your transmitter with radio direction finding and aerial imagery. Your call.

>>58724295
There are some rules in place regarding encryption... and not using the ham bands for commercial purposes...

And I'm not sure if he was following the rules that apply to setting up an automated/unmanned station and if it was properly identifying itself periodically.

If you're interested in packet shit you should look into HSMM Mesh

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>>58744193
>I'm posting what I've read
You read comments from somebody talking out of their ass then. Are you CNN? CNN says the same thing when caught in a lie - "Oh, the New York Times reported this though!"

Don't be fake news.

Ham spergs you have nothing to worry about.
There's pleny of spectrum for everybody and the guys aiming for ham bands just to fuck with you are probably other hams.

>>58744209
It's just the same little kid ranting over and over, in slightly different ways, about not being able to encrypt and send child porn over the amateur radio bands. He does this in every thread.

>>58744212
>frogposting
You may have a valid point but shitposting is worse than accidentally misinforming someone.

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>>58744228
I do have a valid point and you will continue to be triggered by frogs, as it should be.

>>58724098
Sometimes but that usually pushes people away IRL. This leaves the autist unfulfilled and, depending on their self-awareness, socially anxious as fuck

All you cunts need to chill out.
This board is about technology,not laws and regulations.Different countries have different laws so all this arguing is retarded.

>>58724353
The FCC, retard

>>58732055
I'm more bothered by the impressive-looking-but-underpowered SDR in disguise.

>>58744267
My local agency is called hakom and they are underequipped extremely lazy.
I am not in burgerland.

>>58723020
Oh shit it's crown time

>>58723020
I wanted to get a metal detector cuz there was a german military camp near my house but then I found out good ones cost several grand.

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>>58726181
I did too, and maybe I might later on down the line, it's just that the HAM radio scene is like, exclusively old guys and a couple old women thrown in for good measure. There are no young'ns like me and I felt so out of place.

I grew up in the more modern age of the Internet, and as such I have stayed here learning about networks instead.

>>58726181
There's much more to amateur radio than talking to people.

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>>58725072
> ignore my purple AR

>>58726407
>booze
Only idiots ingest ethanol voluntarily.

>>58722940
In a way.

I listen to police scanners sometimes. Is that autistic? Well guess what? I just might be so fuck you.

Radios have and always will be neat. Especially military radios, ham radios, police radios, and two way radios.

Enjoy your shitty pessimistic hate filled life, OP

How do I into ham radio

>>58735365
Come and try it.

>>58745722
Where do you live?
All police use 256-bit encryption with constantly changing keys here.

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I just want a way to listen to dank radio stations and police radios

>>58745738
>all police
You're a fucking retard.

>>58745740
Broadcastify lets you listen to police, fire, and EMS, anon.

Not everything is encrypted

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What is the absolute BEST all-in-one transceiver?

I want ONE box to do HF, VHF, and UHF.

Can I get something like this for a reasonable price?

Also, how is the technician exam like? I'm going to go in pretty soon.

>>58745744
*All police radios in my country use 256-bit encryption
This is 2017, not the 1980s

>>58745756
Murica #1 God Bless still has unencrypted police radios

>>58745738
>>58745756
Not him but I'm in WI and only the county sheriff dispatch and county law 2 channels are encrypted, same for the nearby michigan channels (I live right on the border). I scan local police, fire, and EMS all day. Even drive with a handheld so if I get pulled over I can hear the cop running my plates and be prepared for any questions he has.

>>58745715
Actually, it's typical behavior of idiots to make sweeping generalizations, whereas everyone besides you seems to have been able to practice moderation and have a life.

>e-everyone else is an idiot besides me!
Why don't you go atrophy your brain and delude yourself into thinking anyone gives two shits about you in an MMO some more instead of making value judgments so obviously beyond your ken?

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>>58723763

>>58745784
I'm envious. Police radio is untouchable in Central Europe now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio

The TETRA encryption algorithm isn't even publicly available. It is known that it is a 256 bit stream cipher and there's a protocol for regular key exchange.

I assume the handsets contain GPS and anti-tampering logic that alerts the authorities of theft.

>>58745818
Damn, that's shitty

>>58745787
Go back to your ham radio autist

>>58735711
>falling for the neet meme

shiggy

>>58746044
If I wanted a comeback, I would have wiped it off your mum's face, retard

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>>58745787
>"it's typical behavior of idiots to make sweeping generalizations"
>that last sentence

Really fires the neurons

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What kind of signal is this?

https://a.pomf.cat/izxaof.opus

>>58746158
No generalizations were made. If you can't see that, then you are even worse off than I first figured.

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Is there a guide for getting into ham radio on the cheap

>>58746170
I'm not the guy you replied to, but nice attempt at moving the goalposts.

>No generalizations were made
"Everyone besides you" is inherently a general qualifier.

You aren't nearly as clever as you think you are, and your cringe-tier diatribe isn't helping you either.

>>58746199
>"Everyone besides you" is inherently a general qualifier.

>I know what your meaning was, but I'm instead going to pretend you meant it in a different sense so I have something to attack
stay classy, faghag

>>58746218
>I'm going to pretend I didn't say something I did, and lay the blame on someone else for """misunderstanding""" me
stay classy, faghag

if dubs i'll broadcast chiru.no on international shortwave

>>58746226
No, I did say it. I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand that I wasn't saying:
"For all x, if x isn't you then y."

Maybe learn some communication skills before you criticize others, yeah?

Alternatively, I can just berate you and "your friend" all night. I'm off tomorrow.

:^)

>>58746246
This post makes zero sense.

>Maybe learn some communication skills before you criticize others, yeah?
You should take your own advice, because it seems you're purposefully using vague language, so that you can pivot either way and attack someone later for a supposed """misunderstanding""".

>I can just berate you and "your friend" all night
This is pretty funny. I mean, how delusional and insecure do you have to be to assume that all posts against you are done by a single person? That's pretty sad, buddy.

Don't bother replying unless you can formulate a thought coherently.

What even is this shit? I see it constantly thrown around by SHTFantasy retards but I don't understand the point.

>>58746316
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ham+radio

>>58746316
Don't worry about it, it's not for retards like you.

>>58746277
Do you usually waste other people's time this much?

Is it not enough to be a waste of space, but also a to waste the time of your betters?

>Delusional
It must have been coherent enough for you to ape it so poorly. Why don't you go fling shit in your own cave where you belong?

Also, for the illiterate in the room, those questions are rhetorical. You aren't actually intended to answer them.

Read a book that isn't a strategy guide or a hugbox blog post for once.

In case you still think I'm trying to clear up your "misunderstanding," that was also never my intent (read: lost cause). I'm just having a blast watching you fumble over my very obvious insults in an attempt to rationalize your ridiculous existence to yourself.

It's not delusional when even a cursory look can glean how invested you are in salvaging whatever dignity you thought you had.

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>>58746347
>gets provoked
>throws an autistic fit
>unironically plays the armchair psychologist

hahaha just like clockwork. you basement dwellers have no original thoughts.

good night, and feel free to stay as mad as possible.
hopefully, your autistic rage will cause you to pop a blood vessel, and be painlessly put out of your miserable existence.

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>>58746390
I'm not sure if it's more funny that you've deluded yourself into thinking I'll remember this in more than a few hours or that your have an inability to craft something greater than youtube-tier replies

>>58746164
I forgot to mention it sounds like a POCSAG to me but I can't get anything to detect it as such.

>>58746390
>>58746425
So how long have you two faggots been gay married?

>>58745818
I thought liberals were against encryption? Oh wait Billiam Clinton liked it when he was President.

>>58746451
Not sure, looks like digital FSK, probably for some sort of pager-like system. http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Category:VHF

>>58722940
Listening to buzzer or skykangs is the most autistic thing you can do with a radio.

>>58744286
I don't think it's trying to be an SDR.

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>>58745752
Kenwood TS-2000.

>>58744286
Which is...?

ham + linux is my life

>>58732077
She killed herself

>>58748102
edgy

>>58731920
>Don't nukes cause EMPs when they detonate?
At high altitudes, yes. The term is "HANE".

>>58746173
Didn't expect people on 4chan to own GPs, let alone /g/

Really nice collection anon. I have a 125 myself

>>58723940
>hurr durr I'm a dude my life is so hard
you literally have the same options to get ahead, just suck some dick you slut

pretty much. there's nothing you can do with it.

>>58749281
Why bother replying when you have no clue what you're talking about?

>>58723020
my uncle got one cause there's a lot of sunken ships around here, he only managed to find one gold coin

>>58744457
rent one?

>>58735987
Any recommendations on solar batteries for car-mounted radios? I'm tired of draining my car battery and it's sunny for almost 300 days a year here anyways.

>>58741597
>rf links
Links are different from isotropic transmitters in that you KNOW positively who is transmitting and who is receiving. Typically these use VHF or higher frequencies.

Someone transmitting crypto on HF with no known receiver is a totally different ball park.

>>58744266
>technology,not laws and regulations
There are some very good reasons why all these are intertwined.

Broadcasting crypto will raise concerns over espionage. Number stations still exist. Actions will be taken, some countries will respond more brutally then others. The technical issue then is that if you make a new modulation form you will have to disclose it, share it with everyone.

Licensing involves technical exams. A lot of people have no idea what splatter or harmonics are, and will blithely talk into ham bands while multiple harmonics drop poo into commercial, military or emergency bands. If your harmonics mess up cell bands the carriers will lose usable bandwidth and correspondingly lose traffic and scream blue murder to FCC, while demanding compensation from you. We are not talking pennies. The technical issue then is that you HAVE to understand how the technology workds, in great detail.

>>58744457
you can do allot with cheap ones, the more expensive ones just tell you the metal type better

>>58731920
>>58732051

currently the only emp that damages shit in a wide radius is a nuke, and even then, if you are in emp from a nuke range, you have FAR bigger shit to worry about then telling someone your fucked come help.

granted, anyone in a major city should have a small ham, because an earthquake royally fucking everything is far more likely and at that point you are useful to the efforts.

>>58744531
yea, collecting a bunch of shit that you can largely never broadcast with, and building shit that you can again, never really use

Remember the pasta: http://pastebin.com/9uYXMhVm

>>58733700
lol, bunch of my friends I had in mmos are several decades older then me.

Its funny how a hobby kind of makes the age gap disappear.

granted, once the hobby gets stale, as in, there is nothing hobby related to talk about or do, that it can get a bit harder to talk to them

>>58745765
they are un encrypted for normal use, but there are encrypted channels, think a situation where you don't want them to know you are on to them, you do most of the work on the encrypted channel, with some real chatter on the un encrypted so you can lead them if they are listening in. say you got a barricade down the right, they take the left, get them off the residential roads and deal with them there if its possible.

>>58750565
Second battery set to charge only when the vehicle is on?

>>58732051
That picture is so loaded with errors it is hard to know where to start. Well. How about this:
>Cannon attached to undercarriage of missile and insulated from its effects
Even allowing for the garbled output from an addled journalist the level of stupidity is still reaching stratospheric levels.

And aiming volts? Hahaha

>>58752713
>can never really broadcast
>can never really use the equipment
What?
>get licensed
>talk to others, play with APRS and morse code, communicate with satellites and the space station, moonbounce, iirc you can even set up your own low power TV stations on the now defunct analog TV bands

>>58732107
I wonder whats her back-story

>>58752713
>broadcast
Hams are barred from broadcasting cuck.

>>58756328
oh no, you didnt do everything 100% right, here is your 5 figure minimum may as well kill yourself now fine

>>58757507
They don't slap you with fines, they give you warnings. Immediate fines are for dickwads that are intentionally fucking everything up like that guy that jammed whole cell towers on his daily commute

>>58757507
Also 4 figure fines aren't unheard of, when I was reading warning letters I saw quite a few times that fines generally range from $7500 to $10000

>>58757542
It's generally 12k+

https://transition.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/Welcome.html

https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/maps/fcc-enforcement-actions-against-pirate-radio-location/

The FCC is, and has been neutered for years. The budget has been slashed, field agents re-assigned, and enforcement neglected. I would find the orders if anyone is that interested, but it's a hollow agency, as far as HAM or CB enforcement goes. Those days are long gone. This is all Obama, btw. Really no one cares about the HAM bands much at all. Not much anyone can or does about it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is not a HAM and not OTA. It's a shitshow sometimes and on some frequencies. When the FCC does catch someone, and fine them, they lack the power to collect the fine. These fines go unpaid for years. It's a joke.

Now if you start transmitting on FM Commercial, or interfere in any way in Military, Aviation, Police, etc frequencies, they will hunt your ass down. This is where the nearly every single case comes from, not the HAM bands, and certainly not CB. Which is utter trash, complete garbage.

>>58757643
>CB. Which is utter trash, complete garbage.
Always was. The only good it ever did was recruit new hams once they found out about Amateur Radio.

>>58756328
>the now defunct analog TV bands
Still convinced the bands are vacated like derelict industrial areas in Detroit? See figure >>58739318

>>58760561
I know I've read somewhere that it's legal now.

>>58760561
>>58760575
Also notice that that chart is dated October 2003

>>58724270
not even this. Being a full-blown railfan is. Imagine taking time off of work to ride and record the sounds of rare locomotives and being able to recall from memory the timetables of the major rail lines.

>>58725052
>ham radio
>half assembled ar-15
/g/ee/k/

>>58760575
Very good. Source, please?

>>58760587
>2003
That was for convenience as later charts are in PDF. Here is one from January 2016:
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/january_2016_spectrum_wall_chart.pdf

Companies pay through their noses for bandwidth so I find it utterly improbable that frequencies are just derelict.

Much is reserved by military. Clinton asked Pentagon to review their requirements and they returned saying they need it all. In war they will take more bands, all hams must immediately leave bands in war.

>>58761630
http://www.hamtv.com/info.html#fccrules
http://www.hamtv.com/index.html#tx70
With your technician license you can broadcast on channes 57-60

>>58761754
Hasn't the 70 cm band always been used by hams?

>>58762526
Yeah

Ham is based,

Anime figures (and anime in general), that is pretty autistic.

>>58745736
i would totally beat you up dude, i went to a boxing gym full of niggers for 2 years

>>58762665
In other words there is nothing new and the bands remain allocated.

>>58763557
Regardless my point stands. With an amateur license you can broadcast to otherwise useless things like Watchmans and GBA TV tuners

>>58763573
>you can broadcast
It is possible in terms of technology but not legally (other than in emergencies).

The CQ is a broadcast call to connect but from that it is one-to-one while everyone else can listen.

>>58764694
It's perfectly legal.

>>58723763
stop falling for this scam to get free presents from the gullible public.

>>58757643
>The FCC is, and has been neutered for years.
Just use social engineering.

That annoying pirate? just report to FCC, say you first think there was something Arabic sounding, something about snackbar, Then watch the heavy artillery move in on the action.

Problem solved.

will this thread make it to 3 days? holy shit

>>58766377
just further proof that hammers are autists.

>>58740095
Here is a second list of SDR receivers on the net
http://sdr.hu/
Map : http://sdr.hu/map

>>58723032

An ex of mine was into stuff like ham radio. She actually was autistic, though. Cool girl nonetheless.

>>58746173

<Quadrophenia intensifies>

I submit retro appliance collecting as the most autistic hobby. I actually love old appliances, but most of the community seems to be legitimately autistic people, including a disturbingly large number of gay furries or otherkin. HERE'S A DRAWING OF MY FURSONA NEXT TO MY 1927 GE FAN I JUST RESTORED

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>>58767203
Drawing is missing.

Hams also do retro collecting, of old radios in the class known as boat anchors. The number one is probably pic related, a radio that for many years was classified and even today is one of the very best for HF reception. Not surprising really considering it was used for intelligence work.

>>58746164
where are you located?

>>58735668
Ah, fuck. Not this pic. Old people are a huge soft spot for me, it tears me to fucking shreds to see them sad or anything.

>>58723763
Fuck dude. Now I want to give her a hug and play Brave Firefighters or House of the Dead while eating pizza. People could laugh at me in class the next day if they wanted, fucking nobody deserves this shit, god damn.

>>58750565
Just put a small/medium panel on top the car and use a charge controller. Hook it straight to the battery.

If you really want to you can toss a SLA battery in the mix and just disconnect it, the panel, and the radio from the main battery when the car is off.

Looking for a SDR platform with 3, preferably 4, ADC inputs for coherent direction finding. Any recommendations?

I know you can try to sync up several RTL-SDR but that requires continuous re-syncs and is ugly as sin.

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>>58768285
During Gulf War I our new fucking radios couldn't handle the harsh desert conditions so they busted these bad boys out and used them.

From what I understand NASA and the NSA are both current users as well.

I want one of them, but I'm willing to pay extra for an overhauled unit.

Most of all I want this though, it is the radio that inspired the R-390's design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzqpq-pGJ4I

>>58769218
Ettus Research USRP, it accepts multiple daughterboards with up to two receivers each.

What bands?

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>>58769577
My interest is HF mainly though down to VLF would be a nice bonus.

I am looking into fitting one of pic related into my back garden for such purpose ...

>>58769625
I use a magloop for huffduff just like they did in WWII. When strange transmitters fire up in the Far East, if you hang out on the right IRC channels, people will start posting bearings and pretty soon the transmitter is found, usually anyway.

Pretty good shit actually, might not be as good as the military's automated stuff but it works.

Before you go any further I'd recommend looking into how you're going to make this work. VLF-DF seems a difficult thing to me.