/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Quick, post YOUR Thinkpad!

>>58719539
My Thinkpad is a MacBook Pro.

>>58719568
cuck

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ThinkPad Jeberal

>>58719616
He couldn't grab a real pen? It's not like he's not posing

>>58719616
What ThinkPad is that?

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>>58719568
lame

Did I do okay with a $160 T420 with 128 SSD, 8GB RAM, 1600x900?

From the previous thread >>58718946
Also what other things should I look out for when buying refurbished laptops?
I've burned Hiren's boot CD, to test the RAM and check the HDD health and benchmark the CPU/GPU.

I can't find decent screen for T420 gf on aliexpress REEEEEEEEEE

>>58719734
totally

>>58719775
Search on ebay

>>58719616
He uses the expresscard slot.
Is he /ourguy/?

>>58719846
What's that in the expresscard slot?

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>>58719616

>LOW

>ENERGY

Is it worth buying an x301 in the current year?

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>>58720166
nothing but dubs

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>>58720166

>tfw buying energy

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>get my new thinkpad 2 weeks ago
>way better than my old laptop
>bought it mainly for uni work
>get to uni today
>fire up the thinkpad
>it won't connect to the wifi
>try to do it manually and it's still not having it
>left with an internetless paperweight
>use phone to see uni instructions on setting up wifi
>uni support page says to just contact the admin
>too autistic to do this

Rip in peace T420 looks like I'll be flipping you on eBay.

>>58720456
What's the OS on it?

>>58720486
Windows 7 of course.

Can I put T61p internals into a T60 case?

>>58720456
Can you access WiFi at home?

>>58720490
Had to mess with a lots of settings to get my uni's wifi to work on W7, you should try putting w8.1 or w10 on it, my X220t runs 10 really well

>>58720456
Unis often use some super weird authentification methods. Contact an admin, damit.

>>58719616
>JEB, grab that pen!
>Ok
>Not the Sharpie UGH fuck it

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Is there such a thing as a x220 but it has a nice screen

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>mfw fry mobo on x201
>mfw order a replacement mobo
>mfw I made a mistake, mobo is the x201s mobo
>mfw it fits anyway, all the screw mounts are in the same place and it's the same shape
I'm so happy I fell for the Thinkpad meme. Even after all the repairs and replacements, I've still spent less than $200 on this.

>>58721284
by the way im just saying this because I love the classic style keys

Anyone here have issues with their ThinkPad display driver crashing (Intel) -- happens to me on every version of Intel drivers I've tried...

>>58721376
Never had that happen on any Linux version I've tried; the FLOSS Intel iGPU drivers are rock solid, if a tad slow.

ETA on the T470 release date? I've only heard "February" but I haven't seen any announcements.

I got an x201 from à Friend it is good ? Or should i buy an x220 ?

>>58721575
As an x201 user, they're great and work just fine for most needs, but replace the thermal paste. It's 7 years old now. If you replace the thermal paste (and buy a new fan) you'll get 30-40C idles and 70-80 load temps. I ran Prime95 for 24 hours and only got it to 92C peak (average temp 85C) in a ~70F ambient room.

As a point of reference for speed, they're about the same speed as the top of the line 2016 12" Macbooks, so good enough for most tasks, but more demanding things may take a while.

>>58721284

X220/30 with an fhd mod

>>58721811
I'd like to make it dualboot with hackintosh and maybe some Linux distro ...Can a x201 run hackintosh decently ?

>>58721961
I don't know about Hackintosh for the x201, I'm sorry. Quick googling found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/3dj77b/questions_about_hackintosh_on_thinkpad_x201/
I know, >leddit
But it looks like it has good advice. You may have to either purchase a specific wifi card or flash the BIOS to remove the wifi card whitelist and put a broadcom chip in.

ARM thinkpad when?

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>buy thinkpad
>clean it up with isopropol alcohol
>think it's clean
>week later see it in better light
>realise the speaker vents are full of dandruff
>keyboard is full of hair
Absolutely FUCKING disgusting.

>>58722157
How do you clean dandruff? Asking for all of /tpg/.

>>58722182
Dunno what the standard method is but I'm gonna rip that shit apart and soak it in water, there's no electronics on it that can't just be separated from the wrist rest, or are there?

>>58722119
I would so fucking buy one. Imagine something about 2x as fast as the RPi3 with hotswappable 24-hour battery life and user-serviceable components.

>>58722157
Take it apart and use compressed air to blow the shit out of the ventilation holes. My laptop was previously owned by a smoker, and the amount of shit that came out when I opened it up to clean it was disgusting. I had to take 91% isopropyl alcohol and then after it dried ammonia to the RAM shield because it was *caked* with cigarette ash. It's now clean, but good god was that an unfun (but satisfying) cleanup.

>>58722219
Is 91% safe to use? My understanding was any water content is bad news. I only have 99% anyway, to my knowledge isoproplol alcohol doesn't even have any disinfecting abilities by itself, some shit about water being needed for osmosis and cells or some crap.

>>58722277
Anything above 90% is safe to use, 99% is the safest, though. I'd recommend unplugging all sources of power if you're taking it apart regardless, though.

Currently have a T500 with a T9400, with TLP enabled I get 5-6 hours of battery life on a 9 cell, if I upgrade to a P9700 will I see a noticeable jump in battery life?

>>58720172
Only for memes

I never replaced the thermal paste on my x61s, and to my knowledge no one did before I bought it. It still stays cool when I leave it in the dock. How much longer can I go without applying thermal paste?

>>58722675
6 months to a year depending on your climate

>>58722691
Midwest. You're telling me that my ten year old computer will be ded in the current year if I don't attend to it?

>>58722734
Your car will go past the sticker on an oil change, but is it really the best idea?

Take care of your tools and they will take care of you.

what do you /g/ fags think about T420s compared to T420?

My x62 is amazing, but the screen is ugly. Need an 12.1 ips.

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>>58722830
Both can run Hyperblade so there's no real difference.

>>58722830

Worse batterylife on t420s compared to t420 even with ultrabay battery. Whether it's worth it is up to you.

Looking to get an x220T what is the battery life like on these?

>>58719426
anybody have an oled thinkpad?

really appeals to me, except for lack of dGPU, I have a self-built desktop, but I still want to game away from that occasionally. If I cant have a dGPU in my thinkpad, can it stream games from my desktop reliably?

>>58723515
oled screens emit blue light I wouldn't ever use one

>>58723768

??? wat?

I got an LG oled tv last week and OLED is not a meme. I was going to get a surface book when I started grad school but now I want a laptop with an OLED screen

>>58720456
uni wifis are piece off... had one time to download a certificat to be able to connect to it still wonder why there was a secondary wifi with only a weblogin

>>58723803
sure whatever they're your eyes

>>58723768
you should really do more research before making a purchase

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>>58722157
>buy new thinkpad
>clean it up with isopropol alcohol
>special bumpy coating comes off trackpad
>pristine thinkpad ruined

>>58723971


thanks for the info on the thinkpad

real helpful

Got my company laptop today and it's a W530. One day spend with it and fucking love it.

Such a good keyboard, great track pad, nice chunky track pad buttons, back light lit keyboard, physical switches, quiet just overall a great piece of tech.

Bit outdated as it only has an i7 3840qm and 16gh of RAM but gets the job done for what I need.

>tfw had T410
>loved the tits off it
>it just werked
>dropped it twice ever
>first time screen retention clips broke
>second time screen broke
>too cheap to fix
>puts in pile with iBook g3
>had work assignment in computer shop
>grabs thinkpad L440 to get work done
>drops L440 off full ladder
>it cracks in several places
>still works fine
>pays $40 for it
Now I reluctantly have a new ThinkPad. I didn't even want to get into this meme again. At least the price was right.

>>58724939
>had work assignment in computer shop
what?

none of us know you or what the hell you're talking about. kys

>>58724541
Its a sticker anon, just replace it.

>>58724939
Anon that's what you get for keeping your computer on top of a ladder.

What are some good Thinkpad accessories? I can think of the dock and a Thinkpad Mini Mouse. Do they sell Thinkpad-branded bags?

>Buy a T410s in March of 2010
>Looking to finally upgrade
>New thinkpads are all shit

I just read about the new t470 line coming in Feb/Mar and I'm not impressed. I might actually switch to another manufacturer.

>>58725517
Thinkpad Retro may or may not be coming soon.

>>58725529
Well Lenovo has until April to announce something or I'm going to switch to someone else. Also holy shit at 16:9 screens becoming the standard when they're fucking garbage.

>No more 16:10
>No more thinklight
>No more ultrabay
>Only chicklet keyboards

Thoughts on the X300? I never hear it mentioned but it's 16:10 with a good resolution for the X series.

>>58725483
Lenovo thinkvision external portable monitor

ok boys. its time for a new thinkpad. got a budget of about $200. what would you recommend for a dude who is used to the comfyness of a t400

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>>58725573
>mfw x201
>mfw 16:10 panel, not very high quality, but bright as shit even at 10%
>mfw thinklight
>mfw no ultrabay, but only 12" so it's too smol anyway
>mfw good keyboard with full upper row
>mfw only problem is the speed

If I could mount an x230s motherboard with the ivy bridge CPU into the laptop, I would, but that would require extensive case mods, so I stick with the x201s motherboard for the power efficiency.

>>58725655
x201, x220, t420, or the s versions of any of those. x201 is the only one with a 16:10 display of any of those, but it's relatively slow. I don't notice it in day to day tasks, but when compiling heavy things, or running javascript-heavy websites, you can see the CPU chug.

>>58720456
Had the exact same problem on my new (used) x230 at uni today, this really sucks:(

>>58720456
are you using intel wifi chip?

>>58725696
i'll probably get a t420 and add extra ram to it

is ebay still the best place for replacement batteries?

>>58725883
Newegg or Ebay, yes.

>>58725700
I had a weird issue with my X220 which wouldn't connect to my home wifi. The wifi seems to spaz out after coming out of hibernate mode (Win7).

I also had a weird issue where the wifi would lose connection if I held it at a specific angle, but it seems to work fine now. I have no idea why.

>>58725777
Trips of truth, anyone who's having wifi problems should check their wifi card model.

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Hey /g/, lately my think pad as been having lots of issues with WiFi. When I opened up t he back, I noticed this wire loose. It goes to an Intel wireless n 7265. Am I correct in thinking this is the problem, and how should I fix this?

Pic is the loose wire

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>>58726269
antenna popped off is def. why you have a problem. you can reconnect it by hand onto the little gold connector on the wifi card. try to position the wires so there's no lifting tension on them

Just purchased an x220
>Intel Core i5-2520M @ 2.50 GHz
>8 GB RAM
>128GB SSD
>No Webcam
>Good condition 9 cell battery
>IPS Display
>No visible wear or cosmetic damage

Cost me $200 before shipping.
Did I get cucked or is that a good deal?

>>58726385

ive tried to put it back on by hand, but it still pops off. Is there anything i can do try to get it stick?
thanks

>>58726725
Mind taking a picture from a better angle?

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Where do you use your Thinkpad?

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>>58727046

>>58727046
It won't be til next week for it to come. Then I'll be using it in class and repel all the bitches.

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>>58726956
Took a couple, here's one

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>>58727046
kek

why would you need it while driving

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>>58726956

>>58726956
Just play around with it, it doesn't require too much pressure to get those cables to snap in place. Use your thumb nail to flatten the connection in place.

Anyone with experience using a T430 or similar hackintosh build? Audio engineer student.

>>58727121
maybe he's some government official like a health inspector and he's taking a photo while driving for the lols.

>>58727606
Nope. I'm a field tech. But this is my personal laptop to shit post while I work

>>58725660
why not get an x230 and fit the x220 keyboard?

>>58727127
>>58727110
>>58726269
>>58726385
pop back in. its not rocket science

>>58727895
whenever i put the cover back on it pops out again, i definitely am getting it on correctly

>>58727724
>16:10
>thinklight
>better than x220 keyboard (although they're very similar)
>speed is good enough, even if not ideal

>>58727943
the x230 does have the thinklight though

>>58719734
I'd say that's a pretty good grab my dude.

So my 90 dollar t430s finally arrived had no ram or ssd and had some lying around so i chucked it in.
This thing sucks.
>battery life is a joke the 6 cell doesn't even seem to be worn at all
>fan noise is loud as fuck tpfancontrol is a requirement as the factory fan profile is setup by a retard (runs the fan loud when the cpu is under 50c lol)
>to clean and reapply thermal paste requires you to remove the fucking screen
>the 1600x900 display is aids (much worse than the 1366x768 TN display on my x230_
>the hinges are fucked despite this laptop being hardly used
definitely going to sell this one hopefully make a quick buck off it

>>58728211
>battery life is a joke the 6 cell doesn't even seem to be worn at all
>seem
Stop guessing check what it really is, they have controllers in them for a reason.

>to clean and reapply thermal paste requires you to remove the fucking screen
At least it only needs to be done since the CPU is soldered. It'd be fine having it hard to access if Lenovo could paste it properly in the first place.

>the hinges are fucked despite this laptop being hardly used
Somehow I doubt it's hardly used.

>>58728574
There is barely any shinyness on the touchpad bezel or keyboard the thing looks near mint. I actually have a spare x230 which I salvaged for parts which had been dropped has cracks in the palmwrest dints in the lid too. Yet it's hinges are perfect...

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>anon's thinkpad from China finally arrives

is the t420 a 16:9 or am I retarded?

>>58728878
>is the t420 a 16:9 or am I retarded?
Yeah it is 16:9

>>58728878
Yes.

>>58728878
it is

Thinking of picking up a t61, is there much of a noticeable difference between the performance of it and the t61p? I'm well aware of the limitations of both.

>>58728915
>Thinking of picking up a t61, is there much of a noticeable difference between the performance of it and the t61p? I'm well aware of the limitations of both.
The t61p typically came with better screen options (1920x1200 IPS) other then that I don't think there are many differences

>>58728203
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T420-14-Laptop-Core-i5-2520M-2-50-Ghz-8-Gb-RAM-120-Gb-SSD-WEBCAM-HD-LCD-/232221880635

Hope its as good as it looks and that I didn't fuck up somewhere.

ubuntu gnome isn't booting up from the login screen every time on my x220, and that's an issue since I'm traveling atm. tonight is my last chance to get a light desktop-based distro before my 8 hour flight tomorrow. taking any and all suggestions.

>>58729325

Take a flash drive with you and boot another distro off it?

>>58729644
i have debian loaded as a fallback, but I'd like to put this SSD to use. half the point is to have it in my DE as quickly as I can open it for quick notations for a work presentation that I'm going to.

>>58728652
I've been using my e530 for 4 years and it looks new with no polishing. Check the info from the battery see what the max capacity is down to.

>>58729990
how do i go about doing that there there is no longer a lenovo power manager tool for windows 10

>>58727121>>58727606
>>58727690
You tune modern cars with laptops via software... did you faggots really not know this?

>>58727921
use tape
>>58728878
>Display 14.0″ HD (1366 x 768) (230 NITS) 14.0″ HD+ (1600 x 900) (230 NITS)
>1600x900
I wonder if it's 16:9

What's the minimum processor generation I should look at?

Plan on running either Debian or Arch with i3 wm, will be doing development. Android Studio is a slow af on Windows I know (at least in my experience on several PCs), so I'm guessing it will be on GNU as well. I don't wanna spend much more than $300 so I've been looking at 4th Gen i5 and i7s. Also SSD is preferred.

Thanks in advance.

Is this a good deal, want something to replace my t500

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-X200-12-1-Tablet-Core-Duo-1-86GHz-3GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-WEBCAM-WIFI-LINUX/262777557351?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D04aae4b2537a4009bf11255c54c10153%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252746107137

>>58731357
>What's the minimum processor generation I should look at?
2nd gen is probably the best value, but 3rd is worthwhile if you can take advantage of the performance boost.

>I've been looking at 4th Gen i5 and i7s
4th Gen and after will mostly be ultra low power (U) processors. A recent U CPU can be comparable to a 3rd gen in performance but not power use, so if you don't need long battery life then you won't gain much by spending more.

>>58731449
Yeah they were Us, didn't realize what the U signified cause I haven't looked at processors in years. Thanks! I'd definitely rather save the money and have less battery, I'll never really use it on the go anyways, battery just needs to last my drive to school and etc.

So I finally came to decide between:
>A W520
333 Trump dollars.Comes with only 4GB of RAM and I'm sure that comes with an Nvidia Quadro M1000. It's in good condition, has a quad core i7 and the color calibrator. The deterrent is if I buy it I have to wait three days to recibe it.
>Dell M4600
540 Pence shekels. Comes with 8GB of RAM and a 128GB SSD. It has the Quadro M2000. Has a FHD panel, but I'm not sure if the panel is IPS or TN. It has a numpad keyboard that doesn't bother me, but I find awkward in a 15 inch laptop. I get it the same day that I press buy in my third world ebay.
How is the trackpoint and the keyboard of the Dell and the Thinkpad? Are they comparable?
I'm typing in a X220T and absolutely love the keyboard, even considering that flexes. I heard that the W520 hasn't that problem.
BTW, I'm in Chile (shitskin Texas)

>>58731417
The only advantage of that over a T500 is going to be portability and that it's a tablet model. I don't see why you'd go with that over something more recent, it should be easy enough to find a T420 or something at much the same price unless you're keen on a tablet.

>>58719426

Any news on the Kaby Lake Thinkpads?

>>58731561
I'm not torn on the tablet aspect, though it's nice.
I don't know anything about Thinkpads because this one has lasted so long.
Thanks for the advice and I'll probably look for a T420, no idea what i'm doing so I appreciate it.

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>>58719539
Max comfy, Management Engine free, SSD upgraded, modern WiFi upgraded Debian master race reporting in. I took out the CIA nigger technologies like systemd and SELinux too. This fucked up power management for a bit but I fixed it.

>>58720456
>1 post by this ID
Nice try Dell.

>>58722119
I want one already.

>>58722734
He doesn't know but why not just do it now?

>>58731532
>what of them I should buy?
Kek, I forgot the most important question.

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>>58725483
Thinkpad carrying case, pre-2006 model. Sooooooo businesslike.

>>58725607
Last I heard these do not work with Linux other tha Redhat 6. Can any anons confirm or deny? Debianfag here.

>>58719886
Special secure wireless networking card.

>>58731565

X1 carbon now has a smaller footprint and slim bezels similar to the xps13, as well as usb c.

That's like the only interesting change. Pretty much everything else is just a kaby lake refresh with usb c.

Does /tpg/ recommend upgrading the wireless cards on off-lease thinkpads? Is there any need to or is the factory one of respectable quality?

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Anyone else has tried an egpu setup?

>>58731928
I'm planing in doing one if I get a laptop instead of going with a PC.

>>58731928
whats the orange for

>>58731927
The only reason to do it is if your card is too old to support the networks you use. They don't wear out or anything.

>>58731945
>he doesn't know OGP.

>>58731954
Obviously they don't wear out but I was thinking the stock one might not have the best speed or signal strength or something like that.

>>58731960
We'll one valid reason, I guess, is that some cards seem to have better Linux and BSD support than others. Signal strength is more of a function of the antennas which is model-specific and it will not be improved with a new card.

the HDD on my thinkpad suddenly stopped working, i had issues with the OS not loading properly earlier but reinserting the disk would fix it, there were also no bad sectors and the pins aren't deformed or anything, what happened? i've tried booting up tahrpuppy from a live usb to salvage my data but it keeps getting stuck on booting the kernel if the disk isn't removed, also any reccomended lightweight distros that aren't puppy?

>>58731928
What's a good budget GPU that wouldn't seem ridiculous alongside a T430? It has a i7-3632QM.

I don't know shit about GPU's.

>>58732046
gtx 1050

>>58731449
While I get where you are coming from and the point you are trying to make I would like to clarify that most modern U CPUs are not weaker than old 2nd/3rd gen but they are, as you state, much more expensive but also give better battery life.

>>58732155
>give better battery life
Dubious...

>>58732073
I'll look into that.

For the power supply, I will only need to power the GPU right? So a 75W is enough over the "Recommend System Power" of 300W.

>>58728721
>13-year-old niece
/g/ confirmed for little girls board

>>58732155
Going off some quick searches on PassMark, U models start to do better than comparable 3rd Gen M around the 6th Generation, but it's a fairly minor advantage. If I didn't need the performance then I'd even consider late model thinkpads myself, but unless you can fork out several grand for a modern workstation then from what I can tell, you're better off with a W530 which is a fraction of the price.

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>>58732202
I wish I was

>>58732257
Yup, 2nd and 3rd gen is the sweet spot concerning bang for the buck these days, no argument there.
And if you are looking for a workstation rather than portable then battery life means fuck all.

>>58732280
Transgenderism is a mental illness, anon, better get yourself checked.

Are replacement batteries always a gamble?

>>58732311
I'm not trans I just think being a little girl in a first world country is basically the ultimate easy mode.

>>58732321

I assume you mean the chink variants? The genuine ones are always good if bought new.

I want to be a part of the thinkpad master race too, so i searched on ebay and found this one what you guys think about it ? Is it worth it ? http://www.ebay.fr/itm/112285475995

>>58732759
This one is good and 190 euros is cheap.In my experience thinkpads in europe are little expensive.

Go for it.

It would be great if is IPS screen.I brought two x220 and one happens to have IPS(seller didn't know this).When I booted two of them it was major difference between IPS and TN.

I would never even want to watch TN screen it looks horrible.

>>58732820
Ok thank you, i emailed the seller to have some precisions about the screen, but i think i'm going to buy it

Sorry for the tech support question but I just got a T400 for really cheap, with a supervisor password. Previously I could get into the BIOS In the process of cleaning the insides I removed the CMOS battery. Now, when it starts, a "Check date and time" error appears, and regardless of whether I press Esc the password prompt appears and I can't get past that. Is there a combination of keys to get past the password or am I fucked?

>>58732759
>thinkpad master race

it just means you're poor m8

>>58731928
Tried it for a few months too much bottleneck

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>>58732863
it's this screen i can't get past. any ideas? i tried removing the CMOS battery for 15 minutes

>>58733179
You can't. You'll need some kind of flashing device (hardware). It's not going to be cheap.

>>58732863
>>58733179
>it is another tech amatuer that didn't read the sticky\
>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
>http://ktgee.net/tpg
>WARNING!
>Never EVER buy ThinkPads with BIOS locked (Supervisor) passwords, you cannot reset it by taking out the CMOS battery. The Supervisor password is stored on a chip and requires special equipment to extract it or a complete motherboard replacement.

>>58732863
>>58733179
>>58733226
I really didn't want to burst your bubble anon but sometimes we learn from our mistakes and grow on them

>>58733226
yeah, i know that and i read the guide, but as i said, before i took out the cmos battery the computer booted right up and even got to the bios. now, not so much.

>>58732197
You only need extra power for the eGPU as your ThinkPad has its own power supply.

You can deduce the maximum power drain of your graphics card from the power connectors it has. PCIe bus is speced for supplying 75W, 6 pin power connector is another 75W and 8 pin connector is 150W.

You should have some extra capacity as some GPUs may draw a little extra for short periods of time.

Personally I have an eGPU which has no additional power lines (75W max) so I use a 100W power brick for it. Bricks are much nicer than an ATX psu with all the dangling cables.

>>58733111
You tried via ExpressCard, ExpressCard+Optimus, Mini PCI-E or Mini PCI-E plus Optimus?

I have t500 with SSD, 8gb ram and ati 3650.

Would there be any improvement upgrading my current cpu (p8600) to t9600?
Im just curious as t9600's are quite cheap on ebay

Do x220 and 230 have fans on the bottom? Can I keep them on me bed sheets?

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this confuses /g/

Debian user here, I need a new laptop, and the T420 caught my attention

Just out of curiosity, why are Thinkpads associated with Linux so often?

Hey guys I have a t430 with the lower res screen. I want to swap with the aliens are mx14 r2 screen but it is higher res. Will the t430 be able to use the higher res screen or am I stuck with this bs resolution?

>>58734755
I like Mac a lot they're just overpriced.

>>58734959
Generally you don't accidentally buy a thinkpad, especially an older used/refurbished one. People who buy a thinkpad almost certainly at least know of linux

>>58734755
One for work one for fun

up to /g/ to autisticlly determine which one is it for

>>58733682
Used express card should've clarified

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>>58735025
I'd rather work on the mac on the basic level of it have a much larger/better screen

Why did Shitnovo put such small fucking trackpads and buttons on older ThinkPads? Are they retarded? It's like 3 inches if that.

Might be a question for /sqt/ but should I go with PC3 or PC3L ram?

>>58735238
At the time they probably saw the trackpoint as being the primary pointing device and threw the pad in whatever space was left to appeal to anyone who wanted a pad. Older trackpads are pretty shit anyway.

>>58735287
Low voltage RAM should work fine even if it's not being run at low voltage. It'd be advantageous to have it if you ever want to put it in something that can use low voltage ram even if your current computer doesn't. Of course it's going to be a question of whether the cost is justified, though PC3L is probably cheaper than PC3L anyway if you're buying new.

How hard is it for a retard to replace a screen on an x220

I currently own an x220 thats running lubuntu

I'm joining the navy soon and want to keep a look out for a more powerful replacement that I can use to run windows 10 and do .Net development with VS 2017 without my computer running like a slow pile of shit.

I'll be honest I'm mainly asking because I don't know how to gage processor speed very well in relation to running modern applications. My desktop has an i5 3.1 Ghz and its pretty old so when I see i7 2.0 Ghz I have no idea if thats good or not.

>>58735459
>i5 3.1 Ghz and its pretty old so when I see i7 2.0 Ghz
None of those numbers or letters are in any way useful for determining a processors speed. You have to do it from the specific model.

Can I buy a cheap keyboard for my x220, ansi layout, in Europe? I've paid 105€ my Thinkpad and 40 or 50 for just a keyboard is too much.

>>58727943
>>58728137
The x230 does not have a Thinklight.

>>58735737
Yes, yes it does. It has both think light and a backlit keyboard. I'm typing with it now. On backlit keyboard models fn+space cycles through the two brightnesses and then the thinklight.

>>58731945
>>>58731928 (You)
>whats the orange for
For eating

>>58731942
If you're not planning on playing games that demands too much graphics or keep it at medium to high settings, don't want to spend a lot (like on a new gaming pc), egpu is a good option. Didn't even spent a $100'bucks.
1.-exp gdc v8 - $45
2.- low tier gt730 - $35

>>58719426
how do we Make ThinkPads Great Again

>>58737244

Mod them ourselves

>>58722119
When we finally manage to kill intel

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>>58737244
Just make an x220/230 with a screen as good as the XPS 13

>>58737463
>16:9
>good

>>58737463

The x320/330 already exist anon

>>58737244
MTPGA

>>58737581
Does it?

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I'm looking to buy a new laptop for school (comp sci) since the monitor on my old cheap laptop kinda died.
I'm planning on unironically continuing using Gentoo as my primary OS.
I love the Thinkpads, i think they are sexy and all, but jesus christ, why is the thinkpads two times the price of other Lenovo laptops, with basically same specs?
I currently have the Lenovo B51-80 in sight and would upgrade the ram to 8GB. This would cost me 540 USD (I'm living in Denmark).
Why would the same specs in a Thinkpad cost litterally twice as much? I get that the build quality is superior, but on my somewhat tight budget i can't reason my self to pay this much for a little less plastic.

What am i missing out on if i go with a cheaper Lenovo compared to the Thinkpad?

>>58737708
Hell yeah fampai. Just gotta swap the keyboard.

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>>58737708
>>58737778

>>58727046
Get off of your phone and laptop whilst driving you stupid piece of shit, grow up.

>>58737797
Hard to find it seems

>>58737797
pls make an album of pics

>>58737753
Im currently having the same problem, so I guess I will either buy a used thinkpad or a new consumer grade laptop but I don't know which choice would be better.

>find good deal on eBay
>no os
>no ac adapter
>no battery
>no HDD
>no screen
>no keyboard

>>58737893
>no OS
unironically gentoo
>no AC adapter
get one on ebay
>no baterry
stock one would probably be to old anyway, just get a chink battery
>no HDD
why would you want someones nasty ass porn-filled HDD. Just buy an SSD
>no screen
>no keyboard
Are you sure you didn't accidentaly look at a listing for a server rack?

>>58737893
kek >>58728721

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RED ALERT
>RED ALERT

JOE ROGAN HAS SWITCHED FROM A MACBOOK TO THINKPAD, SAYS HE LOVES IT

>>58738588
literally who?

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>>58738588
>switches off macbook
>immediately gets CC info stolen

>>58738628
>Omega questions

>thinkpad420 i5
>win10
>ableton
Should I go for the SSD for music production?

>>58738628

He's a comedian. You know, jokes?

>>58738689
Maybe if you're working with a lot of samples I guess.

Does anyone know if you can add a fingerprint reader to a t520 that came without one?

>>58738779

Should be able to, but it's a meme to be honest.

>>58738779
>wanting the botnet to have your fingerprints

Really dumb question best with me: if I buy a thinkpad with integrated gfx (would be an Intel HD4000) and whack Ubuntu on there, what needs to be done in terms of drivers? Can I just install and forget or do you need to do some tinkering to get the best stable driver?

>>58738940
>Intel HD4000
>Ubuntu
It will just work™

>>58738940
Intel hardware generally has the best support on Linux. If you have a Nvidia card, you can either use the opensource driver called Nouvaeu or use the proprietary Nvidia drivers and experience all kinds of bugs.

Anyone know where the motherboard and cpu temp sensors are on a T520? Is it normal to get different readings by more than 20C°?

Will they ever make a thinkpad without a 16:9 cancer aspect ratio

>>58738878
So i just need something like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T520-Fingerprint-Reader-Board-48-4KE45-011-55-4KE05-001-/361067118496

And what else do i need?

>>58739113
Right after they cure your autism

>>58739141
>>>58738878
>So i just need something like this
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T520-Fingerprint-Reader-Board-48-4KE45-011-55-4KE05-001-/361067118496
>And what else do i need?
The cable and palmwrest

>>58739319
ah thanks

Is an x220 with an IPS viewable?

Not sure if they made this configuration or not, but I'm looking for a T430 without the DVD drive. Did they make them without it? I won't use it ever so I'd rather find one that's lighter/thinner. I figured the T430s would have it missing but that doesn't seem to be the case either.

>>58739546
x220 is the best thinkpad I ever owned but my only problem is the shitt 1366x768

I just put it on a dock and use an external 4K monitor.

I use a macbook pro on the go.

>>58738029
I'm not complaining about no is, the joke was it progressively gets worse you unironic autist

Hey, looking to upgrad the ram on my x220, do you suppose this one will be compatible?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Memory-IBM-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-DDR3-10600/dp/B009BS4AQW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485899237&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+x220+ram

Should be compatible with this right?
https://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-thinkpad-x220/specs/

save the ssd, everything is identical

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>>58727046

>People still using the wallpapers I made in a weird mood.

Feels good senpai.

>tfw x220 with a cracked screen
>might actually be cheaper to replace it than to replace the screen

>>58739832
Didn't know the hd 3000 igpu could handle 4k.

I bought x230, almost brand new and it's pretty slick. New keyboard, new screen.

But I noticed the power socket is a bit wiggly. Googling was ambigous, some sources say it's supposed to be this way?

Is it fine?

>>58740525
the idea is that the power socket has a little bit of flex within the frame to protect it when bumping the power jack. i assume the theory is a totally rigid socket may crack from repeat stress

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Is there a thinkpad I can get for under $300 with a nice screen?

>>58740863
Makes sense.

>>58740368
4k isn't even actually real in the first place.

Does the x240 use the same power cable as the x220

>>58740919

Some FHD Yoga I guess. Just punch in "ThinkPad FHD" into Craigslist or eBay and there you go.

Hallo,

Whats your opinion on this ?

http://z.mk/za

ta

>>58740525
The power socket on my x230 is the same way. It came like that, mine also looks brand new.

If it is broken it is replaceable for like $10, it just plugs in, no need to solder or anything.

>>58719426
What makes Thinkpads in general better than Latitudes?

>>58741604
They keyboard and the trackpoint.

>>58741604

>>58741723
This although some latitudes do have a track point, and dell keyboards aren't inheritely bad(although I do think Thinkpad keyboards feel better)

The community is also much larger, you'll get more support from people who may have had similar issues, and the modding community is quite active.

>>58741604
huge enthusiast community and a ton of online resources, mods (bios, screen, keyboard, motherboard), if some weird edge case scenario exists (egpu, hackintosh, direct-to-chip flashing shit like coreboot), a thinkpad nerd has probably tried it

What browser do libretards use? I librebooted my x200 this weekend and find that Chromium is uncompatible with Parabola's "your-freedom" package.

Iridium is not an option, as it is broken as fuck. "Sign in to Iridium" doesn't work because the dev wanted to break it on purpose.

IceCat seems fine, until you see that you have to enable and disable javascript for it to work.

Midori is compatible, but software manager clearly says that is proprietary.


This puts the "tard" in "libretard".

>>58741841

before you ask, I'm posting from this minimalistic "Web" piece of fuck.

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So my t420i overheats like fucking Hell 80C-ish - 90C-ish on high performance/Samsung high performance modes.

What could be culprit?

>>58720456
Have you found a solution? I have the same problem.

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>>58741887

Runs nice and cool chilly on power saver though.

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>>58741723
>>58741810
>>58741828
Thanks!

>>58741841
There is an un-googled Chromium. Isn't Firefox free? How do you like Parabola btw?

>>58741909
Did you clean the fan?

>>58742053

Nope. I should, though.. How easy/hard is it to tear down to get to the fan?

Shouldn't expect any problems from a 99% 5k+ ebay seller, right?

>>58742077

As long as the description checks out, you'll be aight

>>58742072
Disconnect the battery and vacuum clean it very cautiously. At least what I did.

>>58742072

Pretty easy. Only done this on a w520, but could probably just remove the keyboard, maybe also the palmrest and blow some compressed air straight out the vent.

>>58738689
only if your sample streaming speeds are bottlenecking your shitty trap beats

>>58742077
paypal/ebay highly favors the buyer in any disputes so even if you get fucked you should be fine as long as you read the description clearly

>>58733179
dont listen to those faggots bro. find a schematic for the bios chip, and ground the voltage/hot pin with the ground/negative pin. use a paperclip or whatever. power on the laptop. that will clear the bios

>>58742044

I'll look it up.

Firefox is also out of FSF criteria, because some DRM they included in the software. It's actually uncompatible with "your-freedom"

How do I like parabola? I like the fact that everything is my way, as I had to configure everything, but I hate that there is too much little shit that breaks, or is just annoying, because the obvious option is not the default option. Let me enumerate:

>TRIM is not enabled by default in fstab
>It was a real pain in the ass to make the partitions, and the DATA partition, I've still not made it.
>I didn't make the DATA partition because gparted needs some missing dependency that isn't written down in the fucking dependencies field.
>The WiFi settings are forgotten when you turn off, so I have to re-enter the password over an over again.
>After installing gnome, the terminal doesn't work, because the instructions that set the locale, don't set the locale for gnome.
>"your-freedom" package, uncompatible with everything for protection, but it's actually designed according to the political autism that hits the author in that moment.

I'm this close just install Fedora and leave the Arch way, but it falls into a boot loop with libreboot.

>>58742348

just forgot:

>yaourt is not compatible with "your-freedom" because it downloads packages BEFORE you can check PKGBUIILD.

>>58742348
>>58742362
Do you have experience with arch? How does it compare?

>>58742378

I don't have a balls-deep experience with arch. Only in a virtual machine.

I figure that the problems I'm having are also arch's. (I search and find every solution on the Arch forum, so...)
I guess that the only difference, is the "linux-libre" kernel, and the "your-freedom" package.

The installation guide with arch will yield some errors if you try the same on parabola. The parabola wiki has a somewhat pathetic install guide, in which you can at least pacstrap the base utils into the disk, and has little changes here and there compared to the original.


I had Antergos installed in this computer before the libretardation, so I'm used to pacman and all the architecture. But this hassle until you have an usable OS is ridiculous.

I guess i should be writing down everything it needs to be done until everything is fixed, and put it in a macro that does all the work for me, in case I have to install again. (I'm doing it in a sort of clumsy way)

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>hey bob
>yeah?
>know how were supposed to be designing a no-nonsense super practical portable workstation
>sure, what about it?
>do you think it would be fine if we made the covers for our tiny one inch speakers be like five inches long, twice the width they need to be and full of tiny holes that get dirty easily
>why would we do that?
>I dunno, I kind of like how it looks though
>yeah sure do it then
???

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>take keyboard out, pull off every key and dump them in isopropol alcohol to let them sit
>spend like an hour pulling the previous owners fucking dog hairs and shit out of the keyboard
>pull off the palm rest and clean everything underneath
>put it back together
>it still works and I managed not to break anything
feels good desu

Just got an E430 and was wondering if it is possible to install an eGPU in it. Yet, the original screen is really bad, Can I replace it to a FHD one?

>get new thinkpad
>immidiately use a sharpie to black out the red accents on the thinkpad logos and trackpoint
I seriously hope you guys do this.

I want to get a bedside porn laptop.

Is an X220 a good one to pick?

>>58741841

I'm decided to use Iridium, given the fact that the FSF frowns upon bookmark synchronization.

The "Sign in for iridium" thing was on the github issues before they decided to awkwardly remove them, but google has them in cache, so maybe I can do something to fix it:

(According to the comments, It seemed as stupid as a typo)

>>58742219
>trap
>beats
>meme producing
Stop projecting yourself, anon.

So finally I decanted myself for the patrician W520.
But the fucker comes with a shitty ISO keyboard, and I love ANSI. So I'll replacing it.
What manufacturer should I pick to have the best typing experience on my Thinkpad? What FRU you recommend?

>>58742556
I wouldn't go deeper into Parabola. Install Arch, compile your own linux-libre kernel, install this dumb package and don't add the non-free-repo. You should be set.

>>58742569
>Hey Keith?
>Yeah Bob
>What if some fat fuck eats a bunch of cheetohs and then rub his hands all over the speaker grilles? Wouldn't that be a problem?
>Bob these are business machines that are going to be handed out to successful businessmen. That would never happen
>That's a good point Keith

>>58742700
Get a used one, clean it. Less than 200$ on ebay if you are lucky.

>>58742053
>modern thinkpad
>clogged fan
something does not seem right? aren't thinkpad fans engineered to keep dust out of the heatsinks?

>>58743072
I'm pretty sure that they are aware of their secondary market and that this community is a driving force for the popularity of their machines.

>>58743072
>normie office workers taking care of the free shit they get from work
I've heard enough horror stories about cd/dvd drives being used as cup or bagel holders to know neckbeards are barely going to touch the upper end of grimy thinkpad users.

>>58737454
>implying amd is a viable replacement

What ThinkPads would be suitable for music production? Thinking reaper here.

>>58743099
>t420
>modern
5 years old, I think... Even the best fans collect dust over the years.

>>58737454
Learn about Intel CPU architecture and their pipeline. AMD is just inferior in this regard.

>>58743151
my 2013 t430 still has its fans clean. Even when I repasted i didn't bother to check the heatsink assembly.

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Guys help my x230t shuts off randomly. I can be doing something and then it will just shut off as if i ripped out the battery. No shut down no nothing. Whats happening? How fix?

>>58743143
T520 or W520

>>58743203
Overheating?

I think I saw a worker using a Thinkpad at one of those green electrical boxes today.

>>58743203
Shuts it always down before BIOS finished? Then your hardware has some problems. Any screen messages?

>>58734998
>overpriced
They're more expensive, if they were overpriced their value on the used market would be lower.

>>58743364
>tfw thinkpads are overpriced then

>>58737753
get an older model anon, I bet you could get a T430 for less than that shit B51.

>>58740132
make more. Those are fucking awesome.

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>mobileposter
I know, sorry. Can't get this photo anywhere off my device. Anyway, I installed an x201s motherboard in the x201 chassis. Everything works except this shows up every time it POSTS. OS boots, so is there any way to suppress these messages or fix the problem? Googling gives me nothing.

>>58743561
you need a special service diskette to write the S/N and generate a new UUID

>>58743611
Do you know how to find that diskette?

>>58737753
>>58737881
It's all about USED Thinkpads. They are insanely cheap for their specs.

>>58743643
it's hard to find since its meant for service technicians.
you can find for "ThinkPad Hardware Maintenance Diskette" or "ThinkPad Hardware Maintenance Key"

it seems you're lucky! someone is hosting the diskette!
https://sites.google.com/site/shaneucf/home/how-to-change-model-type-and-serial-number-of-thinkpad

>>58743700
>https://sites.google.com/site/shaneucf/home/how-to-change-model-type-and-serial-number-of-thinkpad
Thank you. I'm not him, but I will save this, I don't know when could be useful in the future.

>>58719426
Do TrackPoints fit on all ThinkPad models? I have an IBM ThinkPad G40 and it's missing a TrackPoint.

>>58743819
yep

Ultimate memestation masterrace coming through

Thinkpad™ W530
i7 3740QM
Nvidia K1000M
500gb Samsung 850 PRO SSD
16gb ram
15.6" 1920x1080 FHD display

>>58743407
This.

>>58743689
Also this. Who buys new Thinkpads?

>>58743950
you missed the mSATA ssd or the 3G modem (so you can shitpost from everywhere)

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>>58735529
Are my current specs.

I'm looking at the p40 yoga with this processor Intel Core i7-6600U Processor (4MB Cache, up to 3.40GHz)

Is 8gb of ram enough or should I push to 16gb?

I think I can live with a 256gb SSD because I plan on getting several WD mypassport 4TB drives.

I want a workstation I can reliably use for long tours in a submarine. I'm also going to be getting an e-reader and a tablet. It might seem retarded to get a 2 in 1 and an E-Reader and a tablet but everything I've been hearing is that you want redundancy in stuff while at sea because if something breaks you're fucked and you won't have anything to do with your time but jack off and cry.

I might even pick up an older gen 2 in 1 or some other make 2 in 1 as a backup laptop just in case this new one shits the bed.

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>>58744085
Forgot the other pic, fuck.

These are my current specs. I know it's a meme but I like game dev, what is a good type of laptop to look for that can run games reasonably well? I need to be able to run games that I'm deving. Thats also why i want the 40p so I can do digital art.

>>58743301
No messages. Just turns off. No shut down logo or anything.

>>58744113
Does it boot? BIOS atleast?

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>tfw I found another cheap T420 but I already own 3

>>58744106

If you like game dev then that's fine. Don't let some nigger on the internet stay you from your dreams nigga.

>>58744244
I more meant the dislike of gaming laptops. A desktop just literally isn't an option in this scenario or I'd build a cheaper budget one with like idk an nvidia 770 or something that I could pick up for cheap from recycled enthusiast builds.

Since the T460 has dog shit displays and the T470 will supposedly have the exact same ones, is it possible to simply put the T450s panel into the T460? I'm still hoping the T470 will have something better, but knowing it's Lenovo I'm very doubtful

>>58744170
Still available?

>>58744085
Given that you're going to be stuck underwater and can justify spending that much on a single machine to be as comfy as possible, it might be one of the few situations that buying that thing sounds reasonable. As far as specs go it's probably as suitable for your needs as anything, and anything more powerful will probably have far less utility. My only worry is that it end up being limited by cooling if you're really pushing it, but I doubt you'd be loading it that badly.

Though if you haven't already been down on a sub though then you might find that you have far less time/willpower for gamedev than you'd expect anyway.

So I flashed a modded bios to my T410, and it does the "5 beeps, pause, 5 beeps" thing whenever I boot. I'm trying to reflash the original firmware but I can't seem to get it to work through the windows application (it'll say the versions are the same) and I can't seem to boot into an ISO because Unetbootin just doesn't get it right).

I'm at a loss right now, my only idea right now is to try and use Phlash64 within Windows and try and find the bios file within the windows application install folder but I'm not sure what file I'm looking for to flash.

>>58742857
no actual producer would ask such a stupid question, thats how i knew you werea meme soundcloud fag

>>58744741
You just did a software flash?

Is there a good brand of ddr2 sodimm 1gb or 2x1gb sticks on amazon? all looks like chinkshit

>>58743143
why are so many music fags spawning today? do you even know what kind of music you produce or what tools you use? how are we supposed to answer that shit. get anything with an i5 and 4gb of ram f you are just starting out

>>58743102
>>>58743072 (You)
>I'm pretty sure that they are aware of their secondary market and that this community is a driving force for the popularity of their machines.

This is the dumbest thing I've seen all day desu senpai

How do I ensure I don't fuck up the BIOS once my Thinkpad comes in?

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turns out my thinkpad doesn't have a NIC
has to bust out the old pcmcia 54g wifi dongle

>>58745056

Fuck does that even mean. Just turn it on nigga

>>58745056
... don't fuck it up!?