/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Recommend me a cheap keyboard pls, 40 burgerbucks is the max budget.

Thanks lads.

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reminder to not buy from pexon

>>58699594
Korean customs are one of the parts of this hobby I don't think I'll ever understand. As things are now, they don't seem to offer anything special over other fully programmable keyboards, other than sometimes a really fancy case, yet there's such a fanbase for them.

>>58699761
Tomoko on amazon

>>58699779
>"they don't offer anything other than something better"

what's not to understand

(not that they aren't absurdly expensive lol)

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>>58699779
don't let a couple of geekwhack hipster spill overs fool you into thinking this is a huge market. Its only like 300 people who buy the same shit over and over again. You do get a few people with some extra autism bucks who maybe buy one or two, but it really is the same people who consistently buy the same shit.
Some people spent $800+ on pick related, even though the base price was like $400

>>58699812
Better depends on your point of view.

To me, cases don't get much better than a simple piece of metal with feet attached. Things like fancy milled aesthetic parts, engraved logos, milled translucent plastic undersides, bezels three inches thick, etc don't add to anything except the price tag for me.

But whatever, I just won't buy them.

is the spacebar on a mechanical keyboard supposed to feel a little more hard to presst than other keys? is this something I just have to get used to?

Anyone here switched from blues to browns? If you did, what do you think of them?

Blues are starting to feel heavier everyday and they make my fingers feel stiff.

>>58699931
Normally spacebars are easier to press because of leverage.

Take the caps off, maybe you have one where the manufacturer put a higher force switch under the spacebar (eg, green spacebar switch, blues on the rest)

>>58699979
Blues are lighter then most rubber domes. Apple chiclet keyboards require 65g of force, while blues need 55g. You must have some weak fingers

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>>58699923
I understand what you're saying. Almost everything you just described I hate in keyboards too.

But I do like a nice aluminum case.
>pic

That being said I think I'm given up on korean memes after seeing how poorly this GB was run.

>>58699594
>60% + numpad
>not 90%

>>58699979
browns are only 5g lighter then blues. No way you can tell the difference, unless you are some sort of super human

>>58699985
No, it's a brown like all the others

>>58700013
I have really long fingers and I have to scrunch them together to have a good typing position, so it doesn't help.

do any of you flip your spacebar around?

>>58700082
no that's retarded

>>58700104
supposedly it gives better ergos or something

>>58700035
They might not be that much lighter, but the actuation makes them feel like they are.

>>58700118
then just get gateron clears

>>58700108
no it doesn't

if your arm is properly elevated above your keyboard your thumb should be on top of the spacebar

flipping it = compensating for bad posture = long term effects on your hands n shit

it's science

>>58700130
I don't want a linear switch.

>>58700145
switching that shit back then

that's what I get for listening to reddit

>>58700153
good man

>>58700108
if you dont have a wrist rest like me it def helps. but if you do its better normal ways around

>>58700150
then get 35g topre

What about redragon keyboards?

this one Redragon K552-N

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>>58700474
>Redragon K552-N
wow talk about low quality chink shit, but I guess if you have no money then get Tomoko, Magiforce, or Royal Kludge instead since those are better

>>58699594
The faq section tells me to "see the buyers guide". Where is the buyer's guide exactly? Completely new here.

>>58700523
You are right my friend, i'm poor as shit.

>>58700545
>>Where to Buy:
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL

No buyers guide, just looking for what's commonly considered the "best" 60% mech.

>>58700545
we got rid of the buyers guide since it would get outdated every other month. The template is much better

>>58700566
Make yourself a custom GH60 with an aluminum case.

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who /overpricedmembrane/ here

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Uhhhhh that shine girl

>>58700609
my diiiiiick

where that wrist thing come from

>>58700555
>>58700566
>>58700572
God bless. Trips confirm, good guys get repeating digits.

>>58700609
Holy fuck that looks nice, everything except the shine on the keycaps

>>58700653

I made it. Piece of cedar finished with tung oil.

>>58700686

I love the shine

>>58699772
Serious inquiry though, where else am I supposed to buy a fancy cable for my mech?

I was just about to order one too...

When are we going to start seeing more USB-C options?

>>58700771
Why? Since when do keyboards need the same amount of power as a monitor?

How often are you removing your cable that you need a reversible one?

>>58700771
when it becomes ubiquitous enough that even your budget car has one

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good night /mkg/

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i need a cheap mechanical keyboard, is the drevo gramr 84 good?

WHY DOESNT ANYONE MAKE FUCKING MODEL M KEYCAPS OTHER THEN FUCKING UNICOMP??????


I want customization just like anyone else.

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>>58701016
You can still get a nice selection from Unicomp. Pic related is the colors they offer. Now design a custom set and ask them to make it for you. Last I checked it was like $50 for a full set

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>>58701016
Who in their right mind would spend millions of dollars to make the high quality tooling just to sell some keycaps to an autistic person. Just ask unicomp, or get some blank ones and dye them yourself

>>58701055
I want some custom shit like >>58700609
Or something different than the regular design, and just different colors.

I see all these awesome pastel colors, and shit. ugh.

If I like Cherry MX Greens should I just get a Model M on 淘宝?

>>58701113
why doesnt anyone else make buckling spring anyore?

>>58701135
Because it's a niche within a niche. How much demand do you think there really is for buckling spring keyboards?

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>>58701135
if they were they'd have to sell the keyboards for $200, while Unicomp sells theirs for $80. Tooling isn't cheap, especially for the high quality that Unicomp offers

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>>58701016
dude just suck it up and buy from unicomp. They offer a wide selection of colors, and will even do custom prints for you (though the quality on the custom prints isn't as good as just getting the standard prints)

Is there any flat apple like mechanical keyboards available?

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>>58701207
Cherry ML and their clones

>>58701220
Do you have a link to that particular one? That looks really comfy.

>>58701297
it uses cherry ML clones made by gateron, as such it isn't out yet.

>>58701397
Shoot, thank you though.

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>>58699821
Pretty sure there's only one of that specific keyboard.
As in he contacted the chink who made a truly custom keyboard.

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>>58700586
That's wasn't originally on the keyboard right?

>>58701205
I have a few model M. Unicomp is fucking trash. shit quality compared to a real IBM made Model M.

That's why I dont want to buy their keys.

I have a Vortex Pure Pro 60% with backlit keys and Cherry Browns. Where can I get different backlit key caps for it? Seems like the vast majority of caps are opaque.

>>58701812
>Unicomp is trash
Hardly, though I agree their selection of keys is pathetic. They also could improve their covers a bit. The ultra classic is well made and durable, just like grand papa.

>>58700586
what keeb is this

>>58701834
FC660M.

Would Topre be less hated if we started calling them buckling domes?

>>58702206
>hating topre

Is there a keyboard that is 60% without the top row but a numpad?

>>58702291
Yes. Someone on Reddit designed a layout like that

Anything conductive shouldn't be on keyboards or mouse jesus fuck.
>guitar has ground issues
>finish playing
>type on K65
>touch anything but the keys
>get neutered from the shock
>can never get near my keyboard without fear of dying

>>58702365
>>guitar has ground issues

Found your problem m8

>>58702372
I'm a retard and can't solder for shit, I'll have to wait til next week because my luthier is out during weekends.

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Should I get this ikbc Keyboard? I'm new to the mkb market and wanted a ten key less keyboard

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Do you guys know if there is some typematrix-like keyboard with mechanical keys ?

>>58702511
Truly Ergonomic, ergodox, dactyl, etc. Take your pick.

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>>58702511
http://www.switchtop.com/product/let-s-split-40-percent-pcb

>>58702525
>http://www.switchtop.com/product/let-s-split-40-percent-pcb
>>58702527

Ergodox size is awesome, but 240$, no bluetooth and no backlight....

The Truly Ergonomic seems to be huuuuge, to big for me...

Did you guys test the Typematrix? Any tought about it ?

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Love the bezel on this thing. A shame I don't like how it looks from behind compared to the RAMA M65-A.

>>58702511
>>58702527
Why would you want your keys in a matrix layout? Looks like the opposite of ergonomic.

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>>58702568
If you build it yourself using parts from falbatech it should be cheaper than $240. The 'dox I'm using now uses boards & electronics from there.

>tenkeyless

literally why

>>58702596
>RAMA M65-A.
It seems to reduce the RSI.

>>58702606
Woo nice, so what's the pro/cons to type with a splitted keyboard?
did you type on a matrix keyboard before that one?

>>58702617
I just went from a normal staggered layout to an ergodox. Took a week or so to get used to the layout. Being able to adjust the angle & tilt is a definite plus with the ergodox. I can say that I wouldn't like to go back to the regular staggered layout now.

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ducky shine 3 cherry mx blue

>>>/wsg/1518087
>>>/wsg/1518087
>>>/wsg/1518087

>>58701840
>FC660C*
Fixed.

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>deliveries restart tomorrow

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Are zealios a meme?

I've been using mx blues and I want to try out some tactile switches, but zealios are really expensive. What other good tactile switches are there? MX Clears? Gateron Browns?

>>58703167
Everything is a meme anon.

Get either ergo clears and MOD switches if you don't wanna cough up the cash for feelios. They're just not as smooth. MOD switches are smoother than stock clears however.

>>58703197
Ergo clears sound nice, how hard are they to do? I've never done any switch opening before and this will be my first build, so I don't want to fuck anything up.

>>58703288
It's a bit finicky but if you have patience it's not all that hard. If you don't want to go through the trouble of swapping the springs and lubing clears just get MODs/feelios.

>>58703167
gateron browns, gateron tactile clears (they are not sold anymore) or you could put your own springs in gateron browns.

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>>58703167
>>58703288
Get the best, pretentious switches.
MOD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWV2gm-s-E

>>58702505
Fuck that looks great. I got a kul-es 87 which looks really similar design-wise, except it costs twice as much and comes with shitty ABS keycaps.

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>>58703412
Pic related, after I changed my keycaps for PBT ones

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>>58703378
needs some pretentious symbolic keycaps to go with it

>>58703378
That nerd is quoting anime. What a nerd.

>>58703167
get some milk greens like a true patrician.

>>58703663
>milk greens

u wot

>>58703672
>milk greens
they are also called Fosen Aquamarine

>>58703681
Sounds like they're similar to aristotles (when in a real housing). Lower pitch, more crisp sound to the click.

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Seriously thinking about picking up the Logitech MK710 combo tomorrow for $80 AUD tomorrow (20% sale). It won't be too bad right? I've only ever used rubber domes and need something fairly quiet. This fits in my budget and doesn't seem completely shitty. I don't think these are scissor switches either. Any alternatives? The other alternative I suppose is to buy a off brand brown switch keyboard from chinese websites and buy a good all rounder mouse to go with it.
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/product/wireless-desktop-mk710

>>58703737
pretty sure thats just a rubber dome

>>58703737
You could just get o-rings if you want a quieter mech board.

>>58703759
You're right. I need to up it to the K800 for the scissor keys then. That's a bit dearer too.

Where can i found a 60% with the navigation keys ?

>>58703807
Filco Minila

>>58703807
Magicforce
TADA68

>>58700609
disgusting, I can almost feel the oil under my fingers

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It's weird how there are decent ISO PBT caps but if you want dyesub legends on them you have to go with a non standard profile, even for something like a basic UK layout.
Meanwhile ANSI group buys include extra keys for obscure, specialized layouts and a dozen novelty dyesub legend options with little to no practical use.

At least I have my blanks.

>>58704523
>Magicforce
>>58703856
I never tried a 60%, is it worthit for an every day keyboard?

>>58701798
Around 5 of those $800 ones were made, while the cheaper $400 ones has like 100 orders

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>>58701812
They are the same exact keyboard made on the same tooling. They really don't feel that different

>>58699594
>Budget - $150
>Location (continent at least) - AUS
>Preferred switch type - Unsure about this, i spend alot of time infront of the PC coding/working so preferbly something soft & not too loud
>Layout - ANSI
>Form factor - 100%
>Backlight - Yes (Doesn't have to be RGB preferbly blue easy on my eyes)
>Previous/current keyboards - Razer blackwidow hated it because it was so loud - right now using a cheap membrane keyboard

>>58705492
How about a Ducky One
http://fudachi.com.au/mechanicalkeyboards/fullsize/ducky-one-dkon1508s-black-edition-black-switch.html

or

A Ducky Zero
http://search.pccasegear.com/search#w=Ducky&asug=

>>58702568
>bluetooth
That's a con
>backlighting
The pcb allows for that if you want
>240
More like 150 if you source from falbatech and switchtop and have some caps already.

Anyone here buy keycaps from Taobao before? How did it go?

>>58706270
why not use a proxy like aliexpress instead?

>>58705248
My friend has a Unicomp, it is cheaper than my Model M with worse stamping. Travel feels way off, and sticky.
It also looks cheap somehow.

>>58706446
price, mainly. I'm a cheap cunt

>>58706270
I'm from SEA. Bought EnjoyPBT caps, and it went smooth. Plus shipping was damn cheap.

>>58706480
that's impossible, unless he got the spacesaver. If he got the classic they feel exactly the same

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>>58702580
I want those keycaps in ISO layout REEEEEEEEEEEE

Fuck ISO

>>58706517
His dont even use keycaps. he has blank keys, no caps, but they are molded like regular keys.

says unicomp all over it, so I have no idea where that thing came from, or when it was made. it feels like trash, and he confirmed my model M is worlds better.

that is my only experience with a unicomp

I really wish they made proper keycap sets. Or gave up their fucking patent, and allowed other companies to make key caps for it.

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Finally managed to get a Dark Grey Topre PBT spacebar on the massdrop drop. They sold out way before I had the chance to join initially, but have been monitoring the page for changes every minute to snatch one when someone else modifies their order.

>>58706579
>Or gave up their fucking patent
They never owned the patents. Those expired long ago.
They still make the original keycaps with the original tooling, but those are more expensive. They do have a budget keyboard which is like $80 that uses less plastic and cheap keycaps. I guess that's the one your friend has.

The original model M keyboard would run you like $150 if you get it from Unicomp, and they don't sell it directly you'd have to specifically ask for it.

>>58706562
being off topic but this picture if taken by a decent photographer would be poetry.

Are there any good cheap wireless mechanical keyboards out there?

>>58706684
rk61 is $60
Anne Pro is $80

>>58706647
Then why doesnt anyone else make buckling springs anymore? They have a superior feel to anything cherry keys.

>>58706750
>Then why doesnt anyone else make buckling springs anymore?
They do
The tooling is expensive. You'd have to spend several million dollars just to get a proper channel and even then you'd be competing with Unicomp who no matter what will always be cheaper then you. If you want to create a buckling spring keyboard that can be competitive price wise with Unicomp you'd have to cheap out in everything, and even then what's the point when your competitor offers a vastly superior product.
There are Chinese clones of buckling springs, but those keyboards cost $450. They're doing one more production run before they recycle the tooling since there is no point to continue.

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Thoughts on this?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-canvas-xda-custom-keycap-set

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How is my custom keyboard looking? Arrow Keys are a must and the navigation cluster is there because it's kinda useful and there was unused space. All keys have standard sizes

>>58707336
that looks retarded

>>58706809
Cant anyone make a non-membrane buckling spring key switch like cherry keys?
like a self contained unit that uses the same mounting that current mechanical keys use?

>>58707493
The model F does use separate housings so they can be interchanged like cherry switches. As for the cherry mounting there are mods by Matteo that do achieve that and will also work in both directions. The problem is that they make the keycaps even taller

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Tomokor or Cooler Master Masterkeys LITE L?

>>58707612
>cheap chink mechanical keyboard vs fancy rubber dome
you're on /mkg/ so I don't know which answers you're expecting

>>58707805
Than fucking offer me something sub 100 euro

Ducky is not an option here

>>58703167
Chinese "topre" is kind of nice.
Check out the RC930 with 55g domes.

>>58707834
nigger, if you want a mechanical keyboard either get the tomoko or any other cheap chink one
there are plenty of decent boards for less than $100, specially if you're okay with 60%

>>58707612
The master keys isn't even mechanical

>>58707612
>>58707834
how about this
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/e-element-rgb-keyboard

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>>58699594
What type of keycaps should I buy for my gold backplated magicforce?

>>58707563
Doesnt anyone make Model M substitute keystems with built in keycaps?

Like how they do for all the cherry key variations? And dont tell me its low numbers. There are plenty of super low run group buys for fancy cherry keys all the time.

>>58699761
Lingbao jiguanshi, $30
You can't go lower.

>>58708834
yeah but there's already a bunch of companies with mx keycap tooling, literally no-one other than unicomp has model m tooling

>>58700752
Aliexpress has braided usb-micro USB cables, it's a giant fucking meme is what it is.

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Can anyone tell me the difference between the MXt:1 and the Mx t:3 inserts here? I''m buying Gaterons and I don't know what to do here.

>>58708870
that's a shame.

>>58708916
3 lets you take the top of the switch off with those little cutouts on the side

1 doesn't

need mkb pls

>budget: less than 200$, the cheaper the better
>country: ukraine
>switches: cherry or gateron browns
>layout: ansi
>format: tkl
>backlight: moar rgb pls

>>58709044
no you mom gay

>>58709044
MasterKeys Pro S or a Ducky One TKL.

>>58709080
my dad works at cia hell fok u up

>>58709106
My dad works at the white house he'll fuck you dad in the ass

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>>58709044
>moar rgb pls
all the RS keyboards will fill your rgb needs. Tho for some reason the RS84 isn't as popular as the 68 or 96

>>58709126
lol fagot

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>>58708834
Clack Factory makes an adapter called BMX that works both ways

>>58709194
Can you link me? They dont have a website, and I'm having a hard time finding them

>>58709095
MasterKeys looks nice, will consider that
>>58709129
I don't get where to find that. Is it chinese?

>>58709267
they only run them in group buys. Either wait until one hits on geekhack, or check their website keyclack.com

>>58709315
yes

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>>58709315
>Is it chinese
Close its Korean, but there are chinese knockoffs of those keyboards. They usually restock them twice a year

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I just ordered a meme.

>>58709532
Why tho?

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>>58709677
all I know are memes.

Selectric not pictured.

>>58709356
>ricer shit

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>>58700082
>>58700108
I like to feel that edge, I've come to take it for granted. Space feels somehow mushier when flipped upside forwards.

inb4 edgy

>>58710167
www.facebook com/329031274098883/videos/390050607996949/

is this you?

Anyone got experience with those cheap chink backlight-compatible PBT doubleshot keycap sets? I expect them to be on the thinner side, but they're like half the price of that Vortex set and I won't get raped with shipping like I would if I ordered from the US (because lol yurop).

Something like this basically, they're all over Aliexpress too.
http://www.banggood.com/White-Dual-Shot-PBT-Translucent-104-KeyCap-backlit-for-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-1084996.html?rmmds=search

>>58710246
From what I've seen here and on AliExpress, they're thin, have lots of backlight bleed and there were anons with similar "PBT" chink keycaps with no brand name that said they hurt their fingers while typing.

>>58701812
>>58706480

These Model M shills trying to keep their keyboards from falling in value. Unicomp is fantastic, needs better key selection like >>58701833 said. But the Ultra Classic is nothing short of great.

>>58710307
Welp, guess I'd better get the lube ready if I want backlight-compatible PBT.

>>58710418
you can get a model M for like 5 bucks. They are common mass produced keyboards. The only reason why someone would pay more then $80 is if they don't live in the USA

>>58710448
Gateron, NPKC, Vortex, and EnjoyPBT all make nice PBT keycaps. Just find which ever one is the cheapest and buy that

>>58710490
Yeah, the only annoying part is finding a place that
>accepts Paypal
and
>won't charge 30 bucks for shipping

I'll shop around and might have to give up the translucent legends, maybe go with front print or something.

Why haven't the chinks made model ms?

>>58709532
Why not get a real model M instead? It's cheaper and better quality.

>>58710764
I want the trackpoint.

is this good for baby's first Mechanical Keyboard?

also is there something like this thats wireless and maybe a lot cheaper?

https://www.amazon.com/Happy-Hacking-Keyboard-Professional2-White/dp/B000EXZ0V2

i know nothing about keyboards. my only experience is shitty laptops, 20 dollar logitechs and the cheaper gaming ones i fingered at bestbuy

>>58711024
>wireless and a lot cheaper
Anne Pro

>>58711024
RK61 or Anne Pro. Both are actually mechanical (HHKB is capacitive) and cost less than half of what you'd pay for that.

>>58711024
the HHKB is not a good starter keyboard.

the layout is basically love it or hate it, you'll either click with it and think it's the greatest thing ever, or find yourself cursing it over and over

>>58701055
>>58701159
>>58701113
>>58701205
do any of you know what kind of plastic unicomp uses for their keys?

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How are the Gateron black switches compared to cherry mx red and cherry mx black??
Are they heavier than reds?
Cause i can't get used to the light red switch type...
Picrel my keyboard

>>58711173
Gateron blacks are supposedly about 10g lighter than Cherry MX blacks, and 5g heavier than MX reds.
They're also smoother, and you can always swap springs.

>>58711158
PBT

>>58711213
Well, I suppose 5g isn't enought to make a difference than cherry mx red, pity that they are lighter than cherry mx black that much, smoothness is good thing tho.

>>58711255
thanks senpai!

>>58711301
Yeah, especially on the linear switches the extra smoothness makes a big difference.

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>still no silent topre board in ISO

kill me bros

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I just preordered a pok3r rgb with blue switches, did I do good /g/?

>>58711341
it makes it feel lighter I guess, and cherry mx red are too light for me sadly, cause k70 is an awesome keyboard, wanted to replace maybe with gateron black but I see now that they are light like reds eh.

>>58711376
>Pok3r meme
>rgb meme
>clicky meme
>tactile meme
>qwerty meme
>2.5u backspace meme
>2u \| meme
>ugly keycaps meme

shit choice desu

>>58711372
what is the HHKB

http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/lineup/pdkb420ws.html

>>58711385
Again, you could just swap the springs. If you're going all-out with replacing every switch in there, you can just prepare the new switches when they're not yet fitted. Extra effort, yes, but Gateron smoothness + MX black heavier feel.

>>58711419
looks like shit this ruins everything that was good about the hhkb

>>58711419

I don't think I could adapt to that bottom row. Was also looking at the realforce 108UH-S

>>58711434
Well if I was that rich and could afford a full set of cherry mx black and also gateron, I would do so

>>58711464
Some stores sell springs separately.

>>58711464
gateron switches aren't all that expensive. You can get them for like 30 cents a switch, or you can get whatever weight springs you want for 10 cents a spring

>>58711496
Not in Poland i guess, here is a lot problems with any stores with mehcanical kayboard accesories/parts.

>>58711566
As a fellow European, I just found out about candykeys.com, which is based in Germany and sells packs of 40 springs.
You should be able to get Gateron switches from your chinkshit site of choice.

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>>58711419
That one's JIS.

>>58711566
surely you can buy from aliexpress?

>>58711042
>>58711051
>>58711069
thanks

>>58711401
>computer meme
>democracy meme
>living in house meme
>living life meme

shit choice desu

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Got a set of pbt chinky keycaps on aliexpress for $20. Actually feels pretty great. I hope that ali starts selling some DSA or SA profile in decent color schemes soon.

>>58700943
if it's anything like the other cheaper 75% boards (e.g. keycool 84 or mk 84) it will have really crappy and rattly stabilizers. but other than that it should be fine assuming you're okay with the rattle. i also heard drevo gramr uses one of the cheaper chinese clones, but i don't really know how they compare with the more well known clones like greetech, gateron, or kailh.

i got a plum84 with gateron switches from aliexpress and that's been pretty good so far.
keycaps are decently thick pbt thought the legends aren't that great (at least it's not gamer font). it has lubed costar style stabilizers that don't rattle for me, and are easily accessible for future lubing.

the only problem i have is that there are massive delays/missed keys during general use with the LEDs turned on if the keyboard is plugged into a USB hub instead of directly to my computer. not sure what the deal is as my hub is externally powered as well, but when connected directly to the computer it works perfectly.

also worth noting i tried the plum84 with the 35g topre clones and mine doesn't have the issues that the plum84 with gateron switches has.

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:)

>>58711601
Looks nice, and not that expensive, thanks!

>>58711818
qt3.14s

whats this generals opinion about scroll lock

>>58712442
I don't even know what it does

>>58712459
locks the scroll

>>58712442
Just as useful as the numpad

>>58712442
I don't use excel so I have no use for it.

>>58712459
Its a thing that secretaries use to look scroll in their office programs

>>58712442
can be rebound to something not useless in software

>Budget
~$150-200 USD
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Red/Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60%, TKL is fine too
>Backlight
No, not a deal-breaker though
>Previous/current keyboards
Das Model S (w/ browns)

No complaints with my current one, but I wanted a 60% to dedicate to a gaymin setup

>>58712543
Magiforce68

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see what i have guys

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>>58712609
and eighth keyboard

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>>58712543
Pok3r/Poker II
KBParadise V60
GH60
HHKB Pro 2
Leopold FC660C/FC660M
tada68

>Red/Brown
why tho?

>>58712609
looks like a bunch of cheap shit
>>58712625
at least you have 1 good keyboard

>>58712632
>>Red/Brown
>why tho?

Anything else is too damn loud in my experience

>>58712635
ibm model m has rubber dome instead buckiling spring...

>>58712648
Are they keycaps two piece? You can 3D print an adapter so you can use them on a cherry MX keyboard

>>58712635
ive got them for free

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>>58712678

>>58712645
seems you're lacking experience then

https://youtu.be/qp46JeDDTCw?t=48
browns vs clears

https://youtu.be/VDfJ3XWiZcU?t=3
clears vs topre

>>58712697
Yuck. Even if it was for free I'd throw it away. I'd rather not catch crabs from someones disgusting pubes

>>58712706
clears are for gorillas, topres are for chastity cage wearers, leave him alone you sperg

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>>58712645
Thats false. The sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism of the switch. Having thicker keycaps, o-rings and not using a floating design will have more of an effect on sound then on what switch you are using.

>>58712710
can i remake this to mechanical keyboard? Ibm model m with cherry mx red

>>58712735
>can i remake this to mechanical keyboard?
Well you'd have to build the entire keyboard from scratch and the only thing you can keep would be the case.

>>58712766
meant to reply to
>>58712743

>>58712721
weak wrists & a poor fag

nice

>>58712791
I wish I actually liked topres, they're cheaper than the shit I get as alternatives

>>58712766
fuck fuck fuck. i just wanted get buckling spring model m

>>58712872
just drop by into goodwill and pick one up for less then 10 bucks

>>58712872
sell all of the keyboards you just got, then buy a model m

>>58712899
i live in country where ibm model m is very rare keyboard
>>58712906
i actually think about it

>>58712959
you could sell them online as a "vintage keyboard lot". someone will see the model m and bid

>>58711789
what key board and keys?

>>58711818
what key board and keys on the bottom

>>58713267

CM quickfire XT and NKPC white and beige pbt keycaps

Will there ever be new cheap ABS Alps keycaps? Matias sells some but they are overpriced and out of stock here. I guess Alps aren't to common. I'd like to make a custon board with matias quiet linear switches. And the only thing thats stopping my is spending £60-80 on cheap keycaps and stabalisers. Maybe not even getting an iso enter.

>>58713382
Tai-hao has you covered
http://www.tai-hao.com/catalog/ins.php?index_id=83

They usually sell for 30-40 bucks here in America

Should I get a Ducky One TKL RGB or has someone got a better TKL to suggest?

>>58713526
If you want something with RGB either that one or a MasterKeys S if you need software as an extra option to customize the LEDs.

MasterKeys Pro TKL or Ducky One TKL RGB
What do you guys think?

>>58713823
>>58713538
Literally read the post above you.
Get the MasterKeys if you like also being able to edit LED profiles on a software apart from also being able to do it on the keyboard itself with no drivers. Or whichever is cheaper.

>>58711376
>>58711401
Okay can I get genuine feedback on the pok3r? I still have a month until it arrives so I can still cancel if need be.

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>>58713972
Its a meme board anon, but its only a level 4 meme. Something like a custom GH60 with Miami keycaps would be a level 6. A Korean custom would be at around 7-20 depending on what you got. For example that $400 number pad would be a level 18 meme.

>>58714007
is ducky a meme

>>58714076
Depends. They range from either 2-7

>>58714092
How about the Ducky One tkl RGB

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RIP my early razer with actual cherry switches, finally gave up and will be busted until I have time to take it apart
2012-2017

>>58714132
That's only a level 3

>>58714159
5 years is NOT a good lifespan for a mech keyboard

why do people defend these whether they have ACTUAL CHERRY SWITCHES or not?

>>58714159
what happened?

>>58714293
I heard that razer switches are made by kailh and they're actually pretty neat, I don't get sucking cherry's dick either

>>58714293
>>58714325
The new Razr mechanical keyboards don't use genuine Cherry MX, rather MX Compatible (can put MX keycaps on them) switches manufactured by Kailh.
It's supposedly shittier than Cherry, which is much worse than Gateron in terms of smoothness.

>>58714368
Actually they switched to the even cheaper Greetech

>>58714368
Not just Kailh, they have multiple manufacturers doing them. It's luck of the draw whether you'll get Kailh, Greetech or some other unknown manufacturer

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>>58714293
>>58714325
great lifespan for the amount I used it, the only thing that out lasted it was my mobo/cpu. It also wasn't a switch failure I knocked a drink on it. (Has happened in the past but this time it didn't like it, fires random keys for about a min then stops working) The old blue ones actually say cherry with the logo on the switches

never buy a razer mouse though the scroll wheels give up

>>58714414
>great lifespan for the amount I used it
you mean 5 years? in that case it's not a great lifespan

but i see it was your own fault anyway

you could try fixing it

>>58702365
I know that fucking feel bro, love the keyboard though. Sturdy as fuck.

Has anyone ever tried the dvorak keyboard layout, I've been wanting to try it but I don't know how well it would translate on a UK keyboard layout

>>58714446
it's stacked and soldered switches to pcb and I don't have a soldering iron with me
switches->plastic piece->PCB

someone talk me out of jumping on the duck lightsaver v3 group buy that's probably gonna happen this year

>>58714524
You should get a soldering iron then, and learn how to solder. It's a very useful skill, and even if your keyboard can't be fixed, you can still salvage it for parts.

>>58714804
Get yourself an (aluminum) ergodox instead m8.

>>58714903
But I want a 96-key too.

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>>58714804
RS96 drops more often and is more customizable

>>58714918
If you can tolerate the standard staggered layout after using an ergodox for a while, then sure, go for it.

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silly me thats the cheapo one

>>58714923
I heard there's no RS boards being done for a while because the guy behind it had a kid recently and lacks the free time for it.

>>58714945
then why did one drop like last week?

>>58714936
Are there any 96 key kits that don't have the meme plexiglass/underlighting? I just want a plain metal case.

>>58714957
yeah the RS96 comes with a regular bottom
see
>>58714923

>>58714966
that's still a sheet of frosted translucent plastic for underglow

all the rs pcbs come with presoldered rgb underglow leds no matter what

>>58714936
that case looks so good

fuck i wish i could've not been poor when it was dropping

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>>58714980
those PCBs are cheap tho and you can get them from chink land for 20 bucks, and you can just turn them off.

again RS also sells them with a solid aluminum case depending on the drop

>>58714966
Can i get a kit on taobao or do I have to wait for a group buy?

>>58715020
literally the post above yours

>>58715011
not currently, all the legit taobao sellers with them are out of stock and probably won't have more until after lunar new year ends

kind of annoying, i wanted to get the one in your pic but now that store only has those folded plates for 60% and 75%

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I think I might end up getting the Duck lightsaver anyway

>>58714325
its not about sucking cherry's dick, they switched to a much cheaper switch and they didn't lower the price. thats why people hate razer

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I wonder why Cooler Master is the only one that makes 96 key keyboards for cheap. You'd think they'd be even more popular then 84 key ones

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>>58715106
bro that's the old one, check out the upcoming v3

http://duck0113.tistory.com/144
http://duck0113.tistory.com/149

>>58715181
well then looks like I'll definitely pass, unless he offers a normal case

R5 Zealio meme switches are now live

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>>58715337
Reminder that these are a scam

$50 + free shipping for 100 switches (Add $10 for international shipping)
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=594

$8 + $3.85 for shipping ($8.50 international shipping)
http://www.switchtop.com/product/custom-cherry-mx-switch-springs

(OPTIONAL*) $9 + $4.50 shipping ($9.00 international shipping)
*not necessary, zealios wouldn't have close to this much lube.

Total (US):
$50 + $11.85 + $12.50 = $74.35
Without the lube $61.85!

Should have everything at your door within a week or two.

--

$75 + $15 shipping for 100 switches
https://zealpc.net/products/zealio?variant=14276634438

Total (US):
$75 + $15 = $90 with an estimated ship date of "April-May, 2017"


>inb4 "b-but swapping springs is so hard!!!!!"
you're already putting in the effort of buying a custom switch to solder onto a meme-board. don't act like you don't have anything but time to switch springs, loser

>>58715692
>(OPTIONAL*) $9 + $4.50 shipping ($9.00 international shipping)
>*not necessary, zealios wouldn't have close to this much lube.
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant
FORGOT LINK

>>58715692
>(Add $10 for international shipping)
Funny, it tells me $20 for 100 switches. Or $35 for the 150 I actually need.

[spoiler]Zealios are actually $35 shipping for 100 or 150 switches for me anyway so your point still stands.[/spoiler]

>>58715692
b-but muh completely clear housings and purple stems!!!

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Any place that sells wooden keycaps for the shift keys? I have yet to find someone that will actually sell some. I honestly don't care what kind of wood and my budget is pretty stretchable

>>58715692
so is zealios just a meme switch that the super autists can brag about?

>>58715795
Its a clone of cherry clears that reddit came up with, and they yell at anyone who attempts to clone those. Gateron had to stop selling their cherry clear clones because zeal got pissy at them

>>58715795
it's a premade ergo clear that's supposed to be ~super smooth~

because apparently cherry switches are "scratchy" to people who are either super sensitive babies or pretending they can feel shit they can't so they have something to complain about

>>58715844
They are pretty smooth, and stock clears are pretty scratchy in comparison. It's not like it's hard to feel the difference between a smooth & scratchy switch m8.

>>58715738
Interesting, it is still telling me
>"$10.00 Standard International"

There should be other sites in Europe/UK that have more reasonable prices, but I didn't feel like putting much more effort into this.

And you're right about international zealio shipping, just tried again.

>>58715749
Kek yes

Wobbly stems, and non sturdy housings :^)

>>58715795
yes

>>58715864
double blind test of clears vs zealios with identical springs or shut the fuck up

>>58715834
where is zeala ctually based and why is gateron or any other chink factory afraid to clone?

>>58715878
I own both, is it really so hard to believe that a switch with smoothed plastic (feelios) is smoother than textured plastic (cherry MX)?

>>58715908
when you're not giving any unbiased evidence at all? yeah, it is

if zealios are so great, prove it
don't just give me some bullshit about feels > reals

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>>58715927
All I said is that they're noticeably smoother, which they are. Just compare the texture on the stems here. Get your knickers out of a twist m8.

>>58715942
they ain't in a twist, you just dumb

great evidence by the way, a single photo of a single zealio stem compared to some random mx-style brown stem that could be from any chinese clone

>>58715960
Clearly nothing is going to convince you, even when given picture evidence. The plastic isn't textured to the same extent as cherry MX. There are multiple pictures out there showing such if you'd bother to use google.

>t-that could be any brown stem!
Reach more nigga.

>>58715987
m8 im not the one trying to justify spending 50% more on a switch on the basis of 'feels'

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Can't get a good pic on my phone, but clears are not textured like that.

This factory lubed Zealio switch doesn't feel any smoother at all than that MX-Clear un-lubed switch.

With lube clears feel smoother to me.

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>>58716013
I don't care about the cost man, I got half a dozen different types of switches sitting around for future boards. It's a demonstrable fact that the dumb purple switches are smoother than cherry mx.

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>>58716045
Lubed my clear switch, then swapped the springs.

The tactile bump is still so much more pronounced, and the switch feels a little smoother to me after being lubed.

I see no reason for anyone to buy Zealios

>>58716207
What d'you use to lube the switches?

>>58716251
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant
I got the "thick" formula

>>58716305
Shouldn't be too different from the GPL 205/103 mix I've used before then.

What's with all the homosexual boards on display here? I sense a lot of you have lights inside your PC cases too...

So is topre actually the tactility I'm looking for or are they just like rubber domes? I've got experience with old dome keyboards, MX reds and laptops and I have to say that I'm always missing my laptop feel no matter how much I like the reds.

>>58717721
They're kinda like normal rubber domes, but a lot smoother with collapsing feeling that's hard to describe. They're not as tactile as some people say. Matias and jewlios have sharper tactility imo.