/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>not having metallic keyboard caps.

Tfw no JIS layout (return key, small backspace, small right shift) but regular spacebar 65% keyboard.

I bought a Das Keyboard and it has a faulty "W" key which makes it useless to me, fucking hell

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>>58681341
>but regular spacebar
then that's not JIS, that is just another ISO layout

>>58681359
can't you return it?

>>58681341
>small right shift
>65%
65% already has a 1.75u right shift normally, can't make it much smaller than that. Unless you're thinking like a Clueboard with its normally 2.25u right shift, but that does support either 1u/1.25u or 1.25u/1u split shift on the right side

>>58681423
Yea but it's a pain in the arse since I gotta mail it back to them, I thought Germans where good at making shit that works

keyboard is very nice though, I decided to go against the logitech keyboard with all the flashing lights for some vanilla keyboard and it was definitely a good choice.. apart from the fact one key is fucked

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>>58681341
so literally this?

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yoyo

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Is this a Model M? Someone locally is selling for 30 dollars so i might be lucky

tfw to intelligent too fall for the mechanical keyboard meme

>>58681557
Yes and that particular model is a late 80's model wich have the thickest steel plate.Definitely pick it up, you could re-sell it for way over 100 or keep it and have a great board.

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>>58681568
>tfw to intelligent for keyboards

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>>58681572
He says its a 5 Pin DIN so i guess i need a Soares converter to use it

>>58681480
Is it available ffom tzobao/ali/japanese sellers?
Shipping something from the US to me is really expensive and slow.

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>>58681631
tfw to intelligent to have intelligence

>>58681568
It's a hobby. A majorly autistic, overly expensive, and ultimately pointless hobby for people that hate themselves.

And I'm not stopping anytime soon.

>>58681681
fucked if i know, china might not have cloned it yet

>>58681673
Don't bother those things are $40. Make one yourself for half that price

So I am going to build a keyboard. For switches should I make ergo clears, put heavier springs in gateron browns or pay the zealios jew?

>>58681171
What the heck this did guy do to fuck up a cable that much, that can't be from normal use

>>58681726
Gateron browns are just smoother Cherry browns iirc, so either ergo clears or zealios. Ergo clears are cheaper if you buy your shit from mechanicalkeyboards.com because of volume discounts.

>>58681713
http://kbdfans.cn/?p=517
Seems like they did, but case looks terrible.

>>58681460
das is an american company

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I have one (two) of those plastic OG Filco keyboard roofs but they're for full sized keyboards. it fits on my 60% but half of the roof stands off of course. Is there a way I can somehow close it off from the right side after cutting half of it off?

>>58681906
Cut off both sides. Still protects from dust and looks good.

>>58681906
Do people really use those? I threw away the one that came with my Ducky

>>58681987
sure why not, why let dust get on the keyboard over night

>>58681906

You have plenty of options.
>>58681965
Is a good idea.

You could also cut the side from the 40% portion you remove and then either glue, tape or use heat to attched it back onto the cover.

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Going to buy a Realforce today.

>>58681542
thats a big keyboard

what model?

So I've got brown switches currently, but since I'm planning to do a mod (SIP sockets in each switch for swappable LEDs) that requires me to pull out every switch anyway, should I switch to ergo clears as well while I'm at it?

>>58682013
just how dirty is the place you live in?

>>58682110
hubba hubba!

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>>58682125
That was the admin keyboard of the old IBM 4704 banking terminals

>>58681764
The bump is also slightly more early and more apparent.
Zeals should be boycotted.

>>58682258
well i'm fucking silly I completely did not notice theres no top row function keys.

I thought its like the old terminal ones where you had like 20+ function keys and some additional keys to the left of the keyboard

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I've been reading a lot about the bromine flame retardants that were used in keyboard plastics in the 80s and 90s. Many of these are toxic and have now been banned. And because they are not chemically bound to the plastic, they migrate to the surface of the plastic over time.

This has me worried. Does anyone know if there have been studies on this? Is it a valid fear? I fucking love my model Ms, but this stuff is putting a damper on my enthusiasm.

>>58682566
What doesn't kill you makes u stronker

>>58681004
You morons actually feel for the memechanical keyboard meme. You consumerist pieces of shit will buy anything that some faggot gayming company sells you. Your sick admiration with LED and super flashy colours is reminiscent of a little boy or dumb retard who is fascinated by the christmas lights. Neck yerselves, faggots. Writing this from my comfy ergonomic keyboard.

>>58682638
damn dude thanks for that post it really made me change my mind about keyboards you just owned this whole thread

>>58682566
model M cases are made from PVC if that helps

>>58682638
Sure thing kiddo. Gramps had all the right ideas. Maybe you should listen to your elders next time

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>>58682373
You were thinking of the Model F 122 Battleship
(the one on the top left)

The Model F 107 actually weighs a hell of a lot more than it. I think it's heavier than my beamspring too,

>>58682638
>gayming company
No, i got my parts from little independent shops and built some myself.
>LED
No
>super flashy colours
No
>comfy ergonomic keyboard
I bet my Dox is more comfy.

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>>58681542
I see you like bezels. I like bezels too.
Check it out:

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Bought this GMK GB.

Thoughts?

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>>58684337
carbon looks better

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>>58684337
Enjoy your expensive blanks.

>>58684375
Love the caps and the backlight. What set and keyboard are those?

>>58684347
i'm not asking about your opinion on carbons.

>>58684453
You wanted thoughts I gave you a thought. Now quit complaining

>>58684347
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
nicest keyboard on here

>>58684317
haha wtf

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I have to stay hydrated

>>58681735
>that can't be from normal use
well, it can be :^)

what could i have possibly done to break their GENUINE AMERICAN MADE 550 PARACORD

i mean, i can tell you specifically it happened in under 5 months of regular use. more specific than that i don't remember, but it didn't take long for it to start tearing

who /typeracer/ here? just typed 156 wpm feels amazing.

>>58684911
>156 wpm
screen or stfu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MHE-rQPRA
JP looks neat

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>>58684939
ayy
My past 10 average is usually around 135. My max before this was 148.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-SGK-6030-KKCM1-UK-Mechanical/dp/B01CP5MJQ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485569308&sr=8-2&keywords=mechanical+keyboard+cooler+master

Is it any good? Keys of my chink lolita stopped working after few months of use, and this is the cheapest non-chink TKL I could find.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2242

Is this a good jumping off point? I don't want LEDs or anything too fancy, just want Blue Switches and a full size for around 100$.

Or should I shell out the extra for the Ducky One?

>>58685224
Yeah, it's fine if you don't want the Shine for the LEDs.
This board should serve you well.

>>58685257
Thanks senpai

>Budget
200 USD tops
>Location (continent at least)
I'm in Argentina but I can buy stuff of the US Amazon.
>Preferred switch type
It's mostly going to be used for gaming so I'd say MX Reds, haven't been able to try switches myself though.
>Layout
ISO preferred but I can get used to something else.
>Form factor
100% or 80% works for me.
>Backlight
Some backlight would be nice, not necessary though.
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently using a Microsoft Sidewinder X6, it's worked really well but after the years I've had it, it's falling apart.

Thanks in advance

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forgot to post this.

Pretty exited for RAMA stuff :)

Any of you guys pre ordering?

>>58685311
AHAHAHA
http://ar.traetelo.com/ducky-shine-rgb-led-backlit-brown-cherry-mx-mechanical-keyboard-p-4431507.html

How do you guys afford anything?

>>58685363
That website is a huge scam, anon.
I can buy that keyboard from Amazon and pay 50 bucks for shipping or so.

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>>58685381
then there you go. Get a shine 5, or a Ducky One TKL

>>58685391
I'll check them out, thanks anon.

Ayy what is the lowest resistence switch made, and what is the lowest resistence spring I can buy?

>>58685456
gateron clears are 35g. You can get some chink 30g springs from aliexpress

>>58681735

If you arent careful with things they usually break pretty easily. Lots of my braided cords look like that unless i take care not let it happen.

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>>58685456

Low resistance means longer reset once you pass a certain point. They have noticeably slower reset to blacks.

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Anyone got Ducky One TKL UK layout? Can you post a photo of it please?

>>58685581
I could only find the RGB ones
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ducky-one-tkl-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-brown-cherry-mx-switch-uk-layout-kb-21v-dk.html

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>>58685336
Got an M65-A ordered and an M10-A both in space grey.

Should be nice.

>>58685643
Thanks, but I don't think that's it. I found that before as well but it doesn't look like a UK layout to me. It has some non-english letters on it and there is no £ on number 3.

>>58685644
When was the m65 available?

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>>58685845
6th-13th of this month or something like that.

>>58685930
I missed it but anything less than 84key is trash. Good design though.

What is a sturdy, heavy yet small keyboard? The pok3r is a good example. More like this. I want one I can club someone with.

>>58686309
Any 60% with a thick aluminum case. A duck eagle, 256 mini, etc.

>>58686320
>356 mini*
Fixed.

>>58686320
I will look at these. Thank you.

>>58686344
They're limited korean custom boards, so good luck getting one at all, let alone one that isn't several hundred dollars.

>>58686309
Kishy Model F

>>58686309
fc660c

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good night /mkg/

>>58685930
where would I get something like the top keyboard with the orange, grey, and black keycaps?

>>58686384
geek hack. The keyboard is like $350 while the keycaps have to be sold to you by someone who doesn't need them anymore. Usually the keycaps sell between $250-400

>>58686422
welp nevermind that short-lived dream I just had. That's fucked. Where are the keycaps coming from? I've seen this type/style before and i'm extremely keen on them.

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>>58686456
those are SA profile and those keycaps are called hacked by geeks
https://ctrlalt.io/buys/hack-d-by-geeks

For special SP keycaps don't except to ever pay less then $100 for a full set. The filco ones the cheapest they offer at like $70

>>58686379
Good night, Miami

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M3 profile when, matt3o?

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i need a cheap illuminated tkl with brown switches

what do you have for me

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new endgame boys

>>58686603
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1753

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1540

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=995

Take your pick.

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>>58686635

Need advice

I'm not interested in ordering a keyboard from china I just want to buy one locally

Looking for TKL

Is the CM Quickfire or whatever a good option assuming the switches are cherry?

I'm thinking of gettin above keyboard then getting nice keycaps

thoughts? I live in canada

>>58686635
Needs novatouch/aliexpress sliders and uniform profile keycaps

>>58686736
nice is it yours? Saw it on reddit today.

>>58686741
going to keep it stock, love the leopold keycaps (had the black ones on my novatouch before).

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>buy some cheap tai hao keycaps via taobao through a middleman
>Chinamen celebrating Chink New Year until Feb.7, won't be processing/shipping until then
>"Fuck, this is going to take forever. February is nowhere near close. Ugh.."

>quick glance at /mkg/ reminded me I bought it
>Realize its been nearly two weeks since I've placed the order
>February literally in a few days

Time fucking flies

>>58686873
Why is CNY such a fucking hog of a holiday? Why isn't it just a one day celebration?

>>58681004
Does anyone else aside from Unicomp make keycaps for the Model M?

I would like some nice pastel color keys.... but no one makes them in that style for the Model M.

>>58686883
Get some rit dye and dye them yourself m8.

>>58681735
unless you're tossing it in a backpack every day there's no way to kink a cable that badly.

>>58686888
>rit dye
Will it stand up to wear?

>>58681789
>plate color: Gary
I better fucking getting a plate with Gary Oak all over it

>>58686873
>>58686879

as a drivers/middleware dev, Fuck Chinese new years', and fuck winter.

There's 3 whole months of dead time where no one will talk to you.
December? Nope, all of US/EU is slacking off.
January? Nope, all of US/EU is recovering from the collective hangover and all of Asia is ramping up for the Chinese newyear
Feb? Fuckall, no response from Asia.

>>58687104
It should do, it's a dye after all. Just look up some of the tutorials on geekhack & wherever else about it.

>>58681004
Is a HHKB worth it if i'm addicted to the Vim control layout?

>Budget
Under $200
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Topre
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60% or less
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Ttesports Knucker. It does the job but I have to unplug it each night to sleep. I have neutral feelings about it's design overall.

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>>58687293
>Topre
>Australia
>under $200

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Who /semiotic/ here?

>>58687293
You can buy a topre numpad for that price, heres your only other option
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37189/topre-type-heaven-104-key-keyboard

that sellers list pastebin is fucking worthless.

anybody have a list of taobao stores that sell chinkboards?

looking to pick something new up after cny

Gonna ask here before sqt, if I plug my usb keyboard into a usb will there an input lag more pronounced than if it was plugged into the pc io itself

>>58687404
Somehow I forgot the word hub

>>58686736

Damn that white logitech mouse is super nice, where did you get it? I don't think I've ever seen this model in white.

>>58687381
KBD Fans
Also
>>>/g/csg

>>58687417
>>58687404
The lag will be so small you'd have to be an electron to notice it

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Rescued this old Dolch keyboard from the trash a few years back along with a network analyzer. Shit was cash.

>>58687506
Looks like the "stone" edition of the Logitech MX Master.

>>58687655
Care to describe in detail the Dolch keyboard you rescued from the trash a few years back?

>>58687671
It's got cherry mx blues and was in perfect condition aside from a few snapped screwholes inside. It was originally part of a PAC 60 network analyzer or somesuch. I've been thinking of doing a PC build inside of the analyzer but haven't really gotten around to it yet.

>>58687639
Thx anon ilu

>>58687729
Sounds pretty nice. How did you treat the snapped screwholes?

The keyboard itself look very comfortable. I wonder if it is worth very much to a collector.

>>58687750
I used superglue and it worked really well - at least there haven't been any problems yet! The keyboard itself is great - my only real complaint thus far has been that the escape and function keys are a bit too high up. As for price, I remember seeing one on Ebay for around $150 in decent condition. Not sure how accurate that is now, though.

>PayPal won't accept my card even though I've got enough money in it
>Says bank denied my transaction
>just called them saying that it's because I needed a couple more cents, I've loaded it up
>Still being denied
>Can't join the drop for the keycaps

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

What 65% Gateron chinkboards are available out there and recommended?

>>58688069
It's the world saying you don't need those keycaps

>>58688277
I'm considering getting them from this store based in Germany if I won't get screwed over by shipping prices. I was thinking they'd go alright with the memeforce 68

>>58688614
>store based in Germany
please tell me more

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>want to get a nice keyboard finally after my pic related died after years of use
>I actually liked it just fine but want to experience what makes mechanical superior
>All these switch options

I can't tell if I'd rather stick to closer to what I know with Topre Type Heaven or just go for totally different with Blues, everybody is very good at posting convincing arguments for their chosen type using sound effects and such

I guess what I'm saying is this thread has good FAQs and pastebins thank you to everyone who made it

>>58688672
Dunno if you're being sarcastic, but it's called candykeys.

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>tfw this beauty won't ship until the end of april

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Rate

>>58689101
I dig the pulse color scheme, but not how large the font is on the alphas.

Why is no one really doing smaller alphas like SA retro anymore?

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>>58689111
SA retro alphas look just as big to me

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>>58689111

They did recently but it was a mistake. The mockup had upper left legends but it was just for showing the color scheme. SP thought it was the actual design and ran it.

It also looks terrible because of those colors.

>>58689199
wow, i can barely see the legends on the alphas

>>58689139
I'm using SA retros right now, they're really not that big.

>>58689199
Too bad it was over $200 and had no ergodox kit.

>>58689251
Why are you worried about an ergodox kit when the color scheme looks like dogshit?

>>58689094
Its too busy
They made the dark bits too dark and it throws the entire thing off

>>58689568
Well that too, but those two are the main reasons I wasn't going to buy it.

>babby keyboards that lack keys made for babby hands
No, thanks, I might as well go Apple.

>>58689641
This.

I don't get how you fags get any work done.

>>58689712
8 layers with 76 keys each, how can your toy even compare?

>>58689712
I'm not an accountant

>>58689712
>ricers
>work

>>58689712
You know how your regular keyboard lets you have one key with multiple outputs like 5 and %?

Well those smaller boards do the same thing and the alternative functions aren't usually labelled but they are there!

>>58689765
>aren't usually labelled
So, how do you learn which one does what

>>58690023
you program it yourself and remember it, duh

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>>58689723
>>58689765

Let's do the math here

>Paying 100%+ of the upfront cost of a standard 104 keyboard.
>Getting >65% of the keyboard.
>Losing >40% of the weightiness
>Spending 25%+ of the total cost of the keyboard on a brass/steel backplate weight to make up for the weight loss
>Spending 2x the time it would take to use a standard key on a 104 lay out
>Having to remember 8x the layers just to squeeze out 100% of the functionality
>Adding an extra 1-2 button presses to get to non programmed already complicated keyboard shortcuts like (Control + Alt + Shift + 3) (Ctrl + Alt + Shift + F6) (Shift + Ctrl + Up Arrow)

Really makes you think.

how big is the difference between switch types

is it like night and day or is it more subtle

>>58690037
You forgot the anime keycaps!

>>58690037
>>Adding an extra 1-2 button presses to get to non programmed already complicated keyboard shortcuts like (Control + Alt + Shift + 3)(Shift + Ctrl + Up Arrow)
>going below 65% ever

>>58690037
"""""math"""""

What is the most compact 96 keyboard? I've spent hours looking for one that isn't just a standard layout with switches.

>>58690037

My V60 has one layer and matches the functionality of a full-size you fucking idiot.

>>58690023

The manual. The stock keycaps. The code you wrote.

>>58690099
But can you use numpad alt codes on it to type really obscure characters no-one actually uses in daily life???????????

>>58690115
The most important question is

Does he have a job?

>>58690115
Back in Ragnarok Online days I used Alt+0134 all the time.
Good times.

>>58690037
>Having to remember 8x the layers just to squeeze out 100% of the functionality
76*8=608
104*2=208
208/608=0.3421053 ~ 34%
you have 34% of the "functionality" of a fully programmable board. (you actually have far less because i can make my keys do pretty much anything)

>>58690135
Ok genius but what's the fucking point in the first place? Why perform all those mental gymnastics? Why use a baby keyboard? What are the benefits?

>>58690037
>Adding an extra 1-2 button presses to get to non programmed already complicated keyboard shortcuts like (Control + Alt + Shift + 3) (Ctrl + Alt + Shift + F6) (Shift + Ctrl + Up Arrow)
to add to >>58690135
i actually have toggle layers and only one push layer, so the max amount of keys i actually need to press are 2.

>>58690144
how do you even define a "baby keyboard"?
my board is fully programmable, split, ergonomic and customizable in the functional and aesthetic sense.

>>58690144
ergonomics

>>58690160
A keyboard small enough for trump's hands.

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mail on saturday?

>>58690181
What ergonomics? I'm genuinely confused.

>>58690193
Hopefully it's a better camera.

>>58690198
look at your fullsize keyboard in front of you. is the home row directly in front of you or is it to the left? it's probably to the left unless your mouse is in a weird position. to type you have to lean over to the left just to get into a more comfortable typing position. my 60%'s home row is directly in front of me and I don't have to shift my body to start typing comfortably

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>>58690198
>>58690217
it's not

>>58690225
Eh, I don't shift my body, I sit perfectly straight and I have never had any comfort issues after using a full-sized keyboard for like 20 years already, and I type a metric fuckton. I also can't imagine using WASD controls if those keys were moved to the right.

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>>58690287

>>58690198
so your shoulders shift from being 20cm apart to being 55cm apart like your pinkies between typing and mouse usage every time?

>>58690294
So how do you type? Do you reach out with your arms to the left?

>>58690319
>>58690322
I just move my right hand to the left, as in, I rotate the arm, the shoulder doesn't move.

Maybe I'm just bigger than the average person or something.

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>>58690301
it's never been opened, all the keys are working and it doesn't even have a single dent on the keys, is just dirty. I'm very happy right now :^)

>>58690345
not a single dent on the case too*

>>58681460
DAS is the worst shit you can buy

>>58681460
DAS uses Chink switches now. They stopped using cherry MX.

>>58690378
>implying chink switches aren't just as good.

>>58690468
Clearly they're not since they broke on that anons keyboard. There's no shame in buying chink shit, heck we even have a general for it, but don't expect switches made by children in factories to prefrom as well as cherry. There are exceptions like Gaterons which are better then cherry switches, but DAS uses greetech

>>58689199
You do realize the colors are fucking ugly ?

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>>58690468
Gaterons are the only good chink switches and they're god tier switches at that

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>>58690563
>that lopsided spacebar

>>58690575
>stabilisers a shit
I wouldn't haven't even noticed. that's the only thing's /g/'s autism is good far. I think it's fixed now.

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Can someone ID this keyboard? It's really sexy and I've been in the market for a 60%

>>58690714
Literally written on the bottom right. It's an Anne Pro.

>>58690719
cool, thanks. Any idea what keycaps those are? keypuller is down right now

>>58690837
They're the default black PBT caps that comes with the keyboard: http://www.banggood.com/APP-Control-Anne-PRO-Blue-Red-Switch-RGB-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1064055.html

>>58690843
it comes with the arch logo too?

>>58690867
That's obviously the only key that isn't default.

>>58690876
sorry, that's the one I meant. Any idea where to cop?

>Budget
Under $300
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Topre 45g / MX Blue / Buckling Spring / MX Nature White / Gatreon Blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60% or less
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
$5 Japanese layout plastic POS

>>58690886
Just google "Arch keycap". Just looks like a cheap custom keycap.

>Budget
<$150
>Location (continent at least)
us os a
>Preferred switch type
clicky ones for typing
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
tenkeyless
>Backlight
doesn't really matter, i'm not an autist
>Previous/current keyboards
old dell rubberdome and some piece of crap iso keyboard that has a fucked up cord

>>58686739
The quickfire has a non standard bottom row so getting keycaps is going to be a pain, I'd suggest you check out the cm masterkey instead, its the updated board with standard bottom row. comes in full size tkl or 96

>>58690933
there's only one 60% or smaller keyboard with topres but it doesn't come with 45g domes so you'll have to mod it yourself
only 45g alternative in a similarly small size factor is a 660c

Just got some Gateron test switches in, liking them more than my cherry testers if I'm honest.

What keyboard options are there for gat browns ?

>Budget
100-150 (less is better, so i can spend money on caps)

>Location (continent at least)
eu - netherlands

>Preferred switch type
gateron brown

>Layout
Ansi

>Form factor
104 or 96
>Backlight
Dont care for it, if it doesnt add to the price and I can turn it off then whatever.

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>>58681004
half of the keyboards in this thread look like the keyboard from an oric atmos
is that the point?

What do you use for layout ?
I'm a dvorak user mainly because it feels more natural to my fingers

>>58691116
The only full size keyboard with Gateron browns I found was the Plum 104 on MechanicalKeyboards. Most of the popular keyboards with Gaterons (at least most of the ones I know) are on compact layouts.

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>>58691116
diy boards are where gaterons are commonly used. you know, ergodox, gh60 and the sorts. and things like the magicforce

>>58691149
i am trying to find some time to learn maltron

>>58691149
QWERTY

that's what I learned in school and that's what I grew accustomed to at home use and now it's become as natural as swimming or squatting

So many nice keyboards out there but I could not live with Enter taking only 1 row.

>>58691338
you some kind of ogre?

is the Storm Trigger Z (brown cherry switch) a decent keyboard ? I can get on for 70 euros instead of 130. Should I replace my 6gv2 (which is a defective piece of shit) or just buy a $5 regular keyboard.

>>58691338
What type of fat fingers do you have

>>58691361
>>58691434
fuck you I've been struggling with my weight my entire life it's not my fault I can only use ISO layouts

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>>58691474

>>58690971
Any of these will do
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=1&switch=&size=Tenkeyless&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

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>>58691137
I think the apple plus keyboard is the better example

FC660C or HHKB?

My eyes like the minimalist layout of the HHKB, but the FC660C seems to have better build quality, retains the extra keycaps for swapping Control with Caps Lock, and is available for a bit less in Europe nowadays.

>>58691417
mechanical keyboards are some of the biggest memes out there. If you really like the feels then just get a tomoko for 30 bucks

>>58691586
a bit less is a funny way of putting it
you'll easily pay 50% more for the hhkb with import fees

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>>58691586
HHKB for the meme points and the prestige

>>58691590
I calculated it, and if I use all the tricks up my sleeve it comes to about 20% more than an FC660C for the black HHKB (which is ~3000 JPY cheaper on Amazon.co.jp) and about 35% more for the white HHKB, although, of course, without any warranty.

Waiting for a delivery is shit

>>58691595
>HHKB Professional JP
might as well buy an ISO keyboard

>>58691609
you can get a hhkb for 240€ including shipping and taxes?

>>58691625
(21600 JPY * 1.2 for taxes) + 500 JPY in proxy fees + ~3000 JPY shipping = ~240EUR

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>>58691609
You really don't need a warranty for the HHKB, that thing will last for ever, but the HHKB does come with a general warranty from PFU

>>58691646
>PFU restricts its warranty for HHKB Professional products to Japan only. This also implies to virtually any HHKB Professional purchased from Japan. The one year manufacturer warranty is specifically as stated on the warranty sheet that is included inside the packaging box. For non Japanese owners residing outside Japan, this usually means that their warranties are not honoured and thus instantly void.

It is not general. Also, by that logic, you don't need warranty for any Topre keyboard - which, while technically true, is still nice to have.

>>58691639
here in germany you have to pay tax on the full value of the package, so including the shipping and then some more on top of that if it exceeds 150€ in value

but if you can find one for 240 I'd get the happy hacking because it's full programmable

>>58691658
That's weird. Here in America they do cover it, and in some cases they even pay for the shipping. I guess the Japs really hate Europe

>>58691664
Over here it depends - but, as far as I know, (a) adding the shipping/proxy fees only adds about 10 EUR to the tax, and (b) our customs do not add additional import fees for keyboards.

The problem is I'd rather get the white one, which is a good 50 EUR extra, and I also have heard that the case for that one yellows really, really quickly.

>>58691675
That's because you have an official reseller - EliteKeyboards, who cover the warranty for the US - however, they also state they do not provide warranty for products imported outside of the US.

Europe does not have an official HHKB reseller because the HHKB is not CE-certified - The Keyboard Company tried to get them in stock years ago.

>>58691575
It looks like the rama boards, absolutely disgusting.

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>>58691926
vintage keyboards just have a certain allure to them

>>58691335
Qwerty is shit in my opinion, it's inefficiënt and painful.
But if your used to it doesn't really matter i hope.

>>58687323
Oh cool you got the new set. I've got icecaps but going to switch to granite if I can grab a set come next restock on the 30th.

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>>58692030
Bogdanoffs use Model M keyboards

>>58690378
Funny, I don't remember seeing the price go down. Did they pull a Razer and switch just to increase their bottom line?

>>58684435
I'm not sure about the caps, but based on the layout, it looks as thought it could be a custom build.

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>>58693428
No they put the money into useless features like a sticker made of metal.

>>58693304
what happened to their faces? Were they born after the Three Mile Island meltdown?

>>58690115
I use linux

>>58693554
Plastic surgery + mental illness

>>58690037
>100% heavier than a 104 key plastic piece of shit
>much more ergonomic because I don’t have to move my arms like a fucking monkey just to access frequently used keys
>Key combinations are programmable if I really wanted them, and since I don’t exactly one of your examples requires one extra key press and the rest are at par.
I guarantee I hit FN + W quicker than you literally move your whole hand from the alpha block to the arrow keys and hit ‘Up’. Doubly so for less accessible or less frequently used keys.

60% is the GOAT layout.

>>58693710
Is there more to it? I'm interested to know, because these guys look like fucking wax museum figures, and it freaks me out.

>>58692030
no, this looks far better.

>>58690378
dont they use gaterons?

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Is this a Model M? I cant find anything on google

>>58690357
very nice

>>58693920
it is.
wikipedia -> Model_M_keyboard

139013x is buckling spring, 'x' is a different number for different regional layouts.

>>58684375
Stolen from leddit.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1753

Can anyone vouch for this board

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Brand new Leopold FC980C. Im in love.

>>58694055
no

>>58694055
Ducky is good

>>58694055
>tkl
no

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Does o-ring material make a difference on key impact? Deciding between silicone or rubber.

>>58694817
Ok mr accountant.

>>58694938
get metal o rings

>>58694956
Is this a meme or does that actually work? Wouldn't a key just get destroyed with the impact of that everyday?

>>58694938
>>58694956

I don't know about key impact, but o-ring material definitely makes a difference on rocket launch success :^)

>>58694949
have fun when the IRS knocks on your door for not being able to file taxes because you bought a meme keyboard.

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>bought pic related
>came across https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWV2gm-s-E while googling them

what is the most pretentious thing beyond /mkg/ that you've come across with mechanical keyboards, friends

Waiting in my roccat isku/kone to arrive because no lowpro mech keyboards. Did I fuck up and buy a piece of shit?

>>58695364
?????
What are number keys at the top of keyboard?

>>58695631
impossible to use for taxes

the number row and the numpad actually output different scancodes, and if you try using the number row scancodes to pay your taxes you'll get in big trouble

>>58695679
come on anon, this is an anonymous imageboard, we don't need sources here.

>>58695776
lol

>>58695776
>come on anon, this is an anonymous imageboard, we don't need sources here.
[citation required]

>>58695660
udev rules are magic.

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>>58695531

>>58681004
Is there such thing as a buckling spring keyboard that's small. I was thinking of how much of a fantasy it would be to have that type of keyboard.

>>58696439
people have modded model ms into 60%

>>58696439
there is a 60% model f

>>58696439
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver-ultra-compact/

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How does typing on the ergo weight Realforce compare to the uniform 55g Realforce?

what is the best form factor and why is it 65%?

>>58697715
10%

>>58697715
65% is good but only if the keyboard is programmable

>>58697738
anything less than a fullsize with dedicated media keys sucks without programmability

now that i've had a fully programmable keyboard i can't back to pre-set layouts

programmable leopold fc660c when so i can try topre?

>>58697738
My magicforce aint and it's still pretty rad

>>58697761
matteo and hasu are working on a controller but idk how far along they are

>>58697804
god bless them

>>58697439
>enter on the [{ key
but why?

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>Budget
$130 CAD or $100 USD

>Location (continent at least)
Canada

>Preferred switch type
I haven't really tried anything out yet so I'll see what you recommend

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
Yes if possible

>Previous/current keyboards
My laptop keyboard

>>58698816
why not?

>>58699216
what's the point of putting a key on the function layer mere millimeters from a dedicated key that does the same thing?

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>>58699104
Rosewill RK9000v2

>>58699239
Probably for the numpad layer.

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>>58699239
Its the same thing on the IBM SSK. That is the enter key for the numpad

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1290

is the KBParadise V60 a good purchase for a first buyer? I really want a 60% keyboard, browns seem like the best switch for me. Whats the difference between PBT and ABS Keycaps?

>>58696600
>>58696483
Thanks. It's even better with f springs instead.

>>58699311
>Whats the difference between PBT and ABS Keycaps?

ABS keycaps will shine up with use rather quickly, where as PBT will take decades to shine up, if at all.

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>>58699311
If you're okay with the size, then yeah. PBT keycaps last longer and feel nicer than ABS. They have a bit of a rough texture and don't get shiny like ABS keycaps do. It's not a massive difference in feel at first, but it is nicer, specially if you get thick PBT keycaps.

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>>58681721
>make a mechanical keyboard for $20

>>58699342
>mx white in medium row
>mx green in stiff row

The springs in the two are identical, and bottom out around 80g.

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damn that gh60 has some wide ass keys. is there any keyboard that has /wider/ than gh60?

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>>58699311
>Whats the difference between PBT and ABS Keycaps?
google is you friend

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Keycap_material

Basically PBT is a much more resilient plastic and will last longer then ABS.
Pic related is the type of shine you get on ABS keycaps

>>58699353
The active adapter, not the keyboard retard.

>>58681673
that keyboard is old style IBM model stuff, just after windows 98 was discontinued.

a pin5key might not work even with the adapter if your mobo wants 6pin PS/2 generic keyboard.

>>58699400
It works fine with Soares converter

geekwhack.org/index.php?topic=17458.0

>>58682566
only if you burn your keyboards in a room with no windows and only one door and the fireproofing is gas.

the bromine and hydrocarbon smoke will cause cancer but the gas will asphyxiate you.

>>58684463
if you two want to create a post to flame each other, get tf outa here.

>>58684911
liar, you are another mobilefaggot.

>>58699342
>>58699330
>>58699369
so pretty much it wont matter unless I stick with the same keycaps for a long time and never decide to get some other ones.

I guess Ill stick to browns because i am technically a keyboard babby.

>>58699528
abs can start to shine very quickly, after only a few months if it's cheaply made abs

>>58699528
I like PBT keycaps since they are softer then ABS, but it really doesn't matter. Not all PBT is created equal however. The PBT on my model M has been around longer then me and it still looks brand new. The PBT that you get from Tai-Hao is hard and rough and feels more like ABS. The v60 uses Tai-hao PBT so don't expect to be blown away.

New tread my fellow homosexuals
>>58699594
>>58699594
>>58699594
>>58699594
>>58699594

>>58699599
i like both topre and mx ergo clear