/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Should I get a GTX1070 with a generic monitor, or an RX480 with a Freesync monitor?

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My brother gave me this PC back in May as a belated birthday. It's alright, although it's loud as a motherfucker and heats my room up considerably. Should I just scrap this one entirely based on these specs? Keep in mind I don't know shit about assembly and will probably have to get a prebuilt so I don't have to wait for faulty hardware to be shipped back and forth, but was curious to see what /g/'s thoughts on this issue was.

>>58646845
Generic monitor + 1070, if you max the refresh rate there's no need for *sync

>>58646951
Scrap it.

>>58646959
>if you max the refresh rate

elaborate?

What motherboard and why would you use with i5 7500 / gtx 1060 6gb / 2x ddr4 8gb / 850 evo SSD.

I would pefer to be able to use mATX size case.
I dont really care about tweaking and clocking.
I will be gaming on 1080p monitor.

Any other recommendations on my choices?

Will 520w power supply be enough?

Thank you for any advice.

>>58647370
B250 and >=500W.

>>58647089
If your monitor is 60hz and your fps is solid 60 you don't need a *sync monitor since there's no tearing.

>be me
>first build
>buy kabylake pentium
>buy b150 mobo
>need to update BIOS
>have no compatible cpu
>feel stupid

LinusTechTips reviewed the 1070 and stated that it is the "1440p sweet spot". I have a 2560x1080 screen instead a 2560x1440. I'm still skeptical. I want to have a no-bullshit, zero-compromise, above-60-FPS-at-all-times card for this resolution.

Should I still get the 1070?

>>58647524
Get cucked, time to buy a new mobo.

Hey guys, I recently replaced my 7970 Ghz Edition with an RX 480

I have a spare Intel 1156 motherboard (An MSI 2a9c specifically, OEM pos) with 8 gigs of ram and an i3 in it, how bad would it bottleneck the 7970 even if the i3 was overclocked to let's say 4.2ghz? What would be the cheapest option to replace that i3? Maybe a refurbished Xeon?

I'd really appreciate any help I can get.

>>58647576
this is where the bullshit kicks in, it is a 1440p card but it is not perfect for all AAA games. for worst case scenario, Witcher 3, one of the most demanding games out there, the 1070 can pull 60-65fps at 1440p. that sounds good and dandy but you must compensate for frame dips and the most demanding areas. moving to 1080p, the 1070 can pull 80-85 fps, this provides enough compensation to game at max settings, 60fps for at least another 1-2 years until the next big AAA game brings every card to their knees.

>>58647494

I don't think you understand how much better 144hz is than 60hz.

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Greetings neckbeards,
Well my old motherboard finally decided to shit the bed (LGA 1155 with an i5-3570k) after many faithful years of service, I have decided to gut all my old components except my RX 480 I purchased a few months ago and a 1TB SSHD.

Hows it look lads?

laptopfag's first build, hate and subscribe

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($115.88 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.88 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.48 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card ($265.99 @ Jet)

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($67.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1076.08

1080p monitor. Something I'm missing here?

>>58646845

Don't listen to this goon >>58646959


If you get an RX480 and an i7, you'll never go back to 60Hz.

>>58647822
>Seagate
Not the most reliable brand
>650w
A bit overkill

Otherwise its perfect for 1080p/60fps

>>58647822
FFS use PCP you mongoloid nigger.
HDD and PSU are trash, HSF is overpriced, rest is good.

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>>58647883
>HSF is overpriced

>>58647893
It is, but if you like to waste money, go on.

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Switching to Intel, any suggestions?

>>58647822
Get seasonic psu

Get Hitachi or Toshiba HDD

Maybe consider a different rx 480 brand, or a different HSF

>>58646845

The first choice.

144hz is a meme. Everything above 60fps is exactly the same. Don't waste your money on a shitty gimmick and invest in a good GPU.

>>58647812
Pls respond ;_;

>>58647968
Bullshit!

Just as you can tell the difference between 30Hz and 50Hz easily just by watching a video on a 60Hz capable screen, you can tell the difference between 60 Hz and 120Hz and 144Hz on a 144Hz capable screen.

>>58647982
>wifi adapter
What?

>>58647982
Don't get supernova nex, you're going to get fucked up. Get the g2 series, or go seasonic.

For SSD, I prefer ADATA or samsung, but pny isn't that bad.

Everything else looks good

>>58648012
Don't ask questions.

>>58647370
any extra advice on this one?
:S

>>58648018
ROGERED.

RX470 is officially in the mail.

Waiting for AMD to fuck my shit up by immediately announcing a $150 Vega chip

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Is this ok? Did I do good or fuck up? Mobo's are confusing.

>>58648109
Get a Skylake i5 6400 and a Z170 chip. Similar prices and stock clock performance, but let's you overclock.

>>58647862
>>58647883
>>58647933
Thanks. HDD and PSU changed, about the HSF, after looking again I found it for 30 burgers so I guess that will do.

>Maybe consider a different rx 480 brand
Is there any problem with Sapphire that I'm not aware of? Would the MSI version be any better?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MsbrtJ

So will this perform, or will I have to shell out another $150 for an i7? If I do, I might wait until I find it on sale.

>>58648107
Thanks for taking a hit for the rest of us.

>>58648133
What HDD/psu?

>sapphire

It's more or less personal preference. Sapphire and msi are the AMD big dogs i imagine

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>>58647698

Here's a picture of it all disassembled for cleaning, if I can't find any CPU for it I'll turn it into a bitcoin mining rig

>>58648201
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.88 @ OutletPC)

Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Which Kaby Lake Pentium is the meme one that out performance i7?

>>58647698
Not familiar with Xeon processors but I did hear that there are some that perform nearly like a current i7 at a significantly lower price. Just do the research.

>>58647918
Why are you switching to intel in the first place? Ryzen is just around the corner and you might as well wait and see if it's worth staying AMD.

>>58648356
I never liked AMD in the past, I gave it a shot this last build and it fucked me in both video and CPU. The Budget meme just wasn't worth it.

>>58648139

Anyone?

I'm hesitant about the i7 simply because of how much more money it is. Don't know if it's worth it if all I'm doing is playing video games.

>>58647918
G4560 is the best budget Intel CPU right now. Other than that get an i5 7th gen and sell your mobo+ram+cpu if u want a current gen build.

>>58648379
For intel, the way I see it is this
i5 gaming is the heaviest workload you can throw at it
i7 if you plan on doing much heavier workloads like content production
i3 or the Kaby Lake Pentium if you're on a tight budget

>>58648437
You don't need an i7 if you're just playing games. Get an i5 7600K instead. i7 is more on the enthusiast/workstation build imo

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>>58648474

That's my original choice.

Tempted to get an i7, but the prices here are fucking retarded.

pic related

>>58648474
Also if you're planning to overclock, get a better air cooler or an AIO cooler.

>>58648495
i7 is way too much for gaming. You're only using a RX480 and an i7 is too overkill for it.

>>58648498

I don't overclock to be honest.

>>58648012
You see there are people, who build their houses out of toothpicks, and then they wonder why a summer breeze they unironically call a tornado destroys their homes. Those people can easily run cables through their "dry walls".

Then there is the rest of the world, who are sensible enough to build not just their wallmarts out of brick, but their homes. Now those people would prefer not to mess up their solid brick walls with holes, so they prefer wireless transmission, whenever it's an option vs. a cable.

>>58648530
So you don't own the house, then. Either that, or you don't like the look of cables attached to your walls.

>>58648520
Then drop the Z270 and 7700K. Get a B250M or H270 then go for an i5 7600. The Z series mobos are meant for overclocking and meant for the K processors. You'll save a shit ton of cash already. Do you have a budget?

>>58648530
Are you claiming that the entire interior of your home is brick? That's fucking ugly.

>>58648579
It's called paving

>>58648560
>you don't like the look of cables attached to your walls
Who in their right mind does?! I'm already losing my shit whenever I glance the TV cable, that was drilled through my ceiling.

>>58648579
>thinks brick is always exposed
It's called paving and you cover it with paint.

>>58648573

honestly the budget is no individual part being over $500

why is ram so expensive

>>58648607
If it is paved why would it matter if the brick has a hole in it? Do you have 0 wall outlets? You had to make holes somewhere for those.

>>58648642
It's probably a fairly old house built when the only closest concept of networking people had back then was a telephone line. Also, routing cables across long distances within already established homes is hell. You might as well destroy the house and rebuild it to include RJ45 wall outlets.

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is pc in pic related good?

i am on short budget and buyng second hand :DD

>>58648573
>>58648608

also shit I already bought the HSF and ram..

maybe I can re-sell it, as it's unopened

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am I fucking myself if I buy off-brand RAM? I just need it for a shitty mATX prebuilt I was gifted, I'm turning it into a server

>>58648608
Is the RX 480 really that expensive? Going for a B250M/H270 with an i5 7600 can save you ~$200. I'd prefer the H270 over the B250M tho. Ever consider a GTX 1060 6GB instead?

Really jealous with your build tho lol I'm only on a budget build right now.

>>58648642
So you suggest scraping off the pavement to bare brick, tearing out the PVC pipes that carry my electricity, place UTP cables inside them, if they fit the diameter at all, then put it back, pave again, and repaint all the rooms involved entirely to avoid spots due to fading caused by sunlight.

... as opposed to just buy a wifi dongle. You have zero concept of what a brick building is.

>>58647625
Not if everything goes well today, a friend lend me his skylake so i can update it. If it still doesn't work then yeah, time to return.

>>58648222
I can't stand green mobo's in the current year

>>58648693
Nah you can keep the Hyper 212 since you're not going to overclock anyway. 16GB is overkill. 8GB ram is fine.

>>58648696

the 480 and 1060 are basically the same price

went with the 480 for the freesync with that $400 monitor

>>58648733

will the DDR4-3000 ram work on this other mobo?

I think it will.. Was thinking I might as well use it since I have it.

>>58648734
Then you're good to go. Just get a H270 with an i5 7600. Just keep the ram since you have it already. That should give you solid 60 fps gaming.

>>58648757
You don't need 3000. Get low latency (CL) 2400 MHz RAM.

>>58648441
G4560 best but G4600 and G4620 all close desu.

G4560 is $75 3.5Ghz and HD 530 IGPU
G4600 is $90 3.6Ghz and HD 630 IGPU
G4620 is $110 3.7Ghz and HD 630 IGPU

imo the G4600 is kinda worth it but G4560 is pretty much best

>>58648757
You can but it will only run at a maximum of 2400mhz. Since you already have it, you might as well use it.

>>58648784

i5-7600K is $25 more, so is it worth it or is it pointless?

>>58646784

Who the fuck cut that kids hair. Jesus.

>>58648803

don't bottleneck - just find a computer store to trade the parts

>>58648792
But what about that intel HD 600 series?

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daily reminder to use Amazon Smile to support your chosen charity of choice. Your expensive electronics purchases will translate to decent donations.

If you don't have a charity you care about, I suggest Big Cat Rescue, pic related.

>>58648757
It will but it will run at 2400mhz but I don't think it will be an issue.

>>58648818
Pointless. K is meant for overclocking and you said you don't overclock.

>>58648849
sorry, the G4560 has HD 610
my bad

Here's a comparison, I personally went for the G4600 since it'll be a while before I can afford GPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yb1HYIsXM0

>>58648849
That doesn't matter. It's just a shit integrated GPU and like what >>58648849 said. You can probably trade in the 3000mhz to a 2400 one.

>>58648851
For a moment I thought it was a charity for people, fuck minorities. Cat's are okay tho

>>58648878

Is this better?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JMVgqk

>>58648948
It's a rescue for abused/neglected/abandoned exotic cats (like Tigers, Leopards, Lynx, etc) from places like road-side circuses or shitty rich people who illegally imported them, and then subsequently left them for dead

They take them in and let them live as naturally as possible in a giant sanctuary with full veterinary care, enrichment, everything.

>>58648998

You saved $300, so yes. Also just use e your current ram, it's fine. Pop on the HSF since you got it. More support is never bad.

>>58648998
That should be perfect. Although you might want to get a modular PSU instead for easy cable management. I'd suggest the Seasonic M12II-520W and it costs the same price as your PSU.

>>58649052
I second this.

>>58647968
>144hz is a meme
It's not. You can easily tell the difference. 144hz is just not worth it at this moment. You will struggle to get anything above 100 FPS without premium components. Same with 4k.

>>58648998

I wouldn't bother with that monitor. As >>58649209
said - you'll barely ever hit 144 fps. Get a 1060 as it's the same price as your current GPU, and a better monitor without the *sync gimmick.

>>58649082
>>58649096
>>58649226

ok then

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2ZFqWX

>>58649299
Perfect. I'm really jealous right now.

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>>58649396

With the monitor, I just picked it because it's popular. Is it actually alright?

>>58649462
Yeah unless you can find a cheap good 144hz monitor. You can use that instead.

>>58649594

That's the cheapest they come it seems.

>>58649209
>You will struggle to get anything above 100 FPS without premium components

Not with the RX480 at 1080p. He'd be able to sit of 120+ easily in most games.

How's this on a budget oriented gaming build? I'm trying to keep my budget lower than $300 as much as I can at the same time upgradable so that I can upgrade to a GTX 1060 3GB with ease.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gXMrtJ

Also, any other suggestion on a better case with good air flow?

>>58649673

He isn't overclocking so I highly doubt it.

>>58646784
My rig:
>i7-920
>8GiB DDR3-1333 (tfw mobo suports triple-channel but I don't have 3 sticks)
>"Foxconn DX58M01" motherboard (OEM, from a Dell XPS 435MT)
>HD7870 GHz Edition
>WD 932 GiB HDD for OS
>Hitachi 2795 GiB HDD for storage
>RK-9000v2 BR (mech keyboard)
>Kensington Pro Fit Full-Size (wired) mouse
>Ol' reliable Dell 1905FP monitor (19" SXGA)
>Dell 1909W monitor (19" WXGA+)
>MDR-V6
>Some PSU from a scrapped computer, no fucking idea
Yes I know it's nigger tier but literally everything was a gift/scraps except the hard drives, keyboard+mouse, and headphones

Otouto's rig:
>FX-4350
>Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 R5
>8GB DDR3-1866 (I think)
>RX 470
>Samsung 932GiB HDD
>Some DVD-RW drive we found in the basement
>Basic-ass Dell keyboard (w/ smart card reader 4 no reason)
>Dell P1911 monitor (19" WXGA+)
>Logitech MX518 mouse
>Koss PortaPro
>EVGA 500W W1 80+ PSU

>>58649782
>literally everything was a gift/scraps except the hard drives, keyboard+mouse, and headphones
*and the RAM.
I had to buy RAM.

Also, both the computers' cases were scraps

Rx 470 or 1050 TI? I got all the parts listed when my cousin upgraded his pc, not sure what card to get or case and I want to upgrade the psu too, any recommendations?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BJFpFd

I have a computer case and peripherals and monitor. I have 200$ what is the most powerful and cost effective build I can buy.

>>58649681
You might want to switch to an x4 860, it's a quad core that performs pretty well for around the same price, but it cuts cpu upgrade path, if that matters.

>>58647407
>>=500W.
Wat, The entire system will draw 300W tops.

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>video game console assembly general

>>58646845
Personally I'd say 480 + 1080p high Hz Freesync. Easier to run in the future. Also you'll get Low Framerate Compensation and the monitor will have a higher resale value when you decide to move up to 1440p

>>58646951
Keep it. You can replace the gfx card with an RX470 if you want.

>>58647089
Maxing the refresh rate is easier said than done. That's why you want a high Hz monitor, so that you don't have to worry about minimums and Vsync

>>58647524
Try q flash

>>58647576
Yeah, but you can get away with a 1060 6GB or a 480 8GB

>>58647698
The bottleneck wouldn't be too bad

>>58648683
The CPU is good, the GPU is... not something I'd recommend but okay, the MOBO appears to be bottom-of-the-barrel tier, and the PSU is something you shouldn't touch except to throw it away and replace with something that isn't liable to blow up.

>>58647812
Looks good

>>58647822
Some 3TB seagayes have 25% failure rates. Don't buy it if you can't find reliability data on that model

>>58646784
What is currently the best gen of Intel to buy if I want to have an onboard M.2?

I've been thinking about piecing together a newer PC using old parts.

My goal is to buy second from the top CPU at a great discount, or maybe even the extreme edition if its cheap enough.

Is Haswell a good gen? Or Broadwell? Or should I go further back a gen?

>>58650041
The only reason to get 1050ti is if you're limited to power from PCIe lane only.

what version of Windows 10 should I hunt down for my new kaby build

>>58650494
gentoo

>>58650494
Windows 7 for 20 bucks

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QVvhGf

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Any recommendation?
Maybe I'll switch to rx480 red devil...not sure.
A WD blue will follow also.

>>58651059
i mean maybe i'll switch to 1060

>>58647918
Wait a bit, otherwise G4560 + Z270 so that you have an upgrade path. You won't get much of a performance boost unless you get an fast i5 or better.

>>58647968
It's more about screen tearing, framerate compensation, and not having to deal with shitty Vsync.

>>58648109
It's fine

>>58648127
BLCK OC sucks

>>58648139
Looks good but that monitor is a waste.

>>58648342
None, retard.

>>58648683
If you can, get a used 380x or 970.
And a 240GB SSD.

>>58648694
It's fine

>>58648734
>$400 1080p monitor
Embarrassing

>>58650081
Absolutely retarded advice

>>58649782
Your point is? This thread is for people assembling computers.

>>58650041
Definitely 470

>>58650043
For what purpose, retard? The best you could do if gaming is G4560 + B250 + 8GB RAM + GTX1050 for about 275USD. Otherwise save up

>>58650494
Enterprise / Pro. I just installed using the Home iso and entered a Pro key to upgrade, then activated with "Microsoft" Toolkit

>>58651012
Drop to i5 7500
B250 mobo
Used monitor

>>58651059
Need a B250 mobo
Drop to 2400MHz RAM unless you get a Z270
Make sure the mobo has wifi if you want it

>>58646784
Learn to use code tags retard

>>58651190
>Drop to i5 7500

nah I'm good

>B250 mobo

I'll do that though.

>Used monitor

wut

>>58651370
1080p 60Hz monitors are a dime a dozen. Stupid to pay full price for one

>>58651457

oh oh

I get you now

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sh38TW/aoc-g2460vq6-240-60hz-monitor-g2460vq6


>freesync at 60fps

lolwut

>>58651059
It's shit. Kaby Lake will require a Union Point chipset to install the OS unless you already have a Skylake CPU. 120mm AIOs are generally shit and not required for locked CPUs.
PSU seems overpriced, RAM is absolute retard mode and you picked the worst RX480 on the market. Good job wasting almost 1K on this memejob.

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I have an a10 7850k, but its just not cutting it for me anymore (I never intended to game on in the first place, but it runs some stuff I want to play at low)

Should I just slap a new card on there (was thinking 750ti, rx480 or similar) or get an i5-2500k and oc it , and then just sell the apu and mobo

alternatively, for €20~ more I can get a i7-3820, or i7-2600

mobo recommendation for the above intel chips would be nice too

sorry for the autism

>>58651947
I... probably wouldn't get a sandy bridge or ivy bridge CPU at this point. Getting a reasonably priced MOBO is getting pretty hard, and there's no guarantee that it'll last you for any length of time.

What kind of games do you play and what's the rest of the system? The 7850k isn't great, but the CPU should be able to run most games at decent framerates.

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Last time I built a computer was in 2010, a bit out of the loop. Mainly for gaming, budget is about $1500 and I still have to get a monitor in there somewhere but I can always purchase that a bit later. Thoughts/swaps?

>>58651994
I should've mentioned streaming here too, the 7850k seems to shit the bed even streaming fightcade at 720p.

the APU can actually run street fighter V at low and everything turned off but it looks like complete garbage, it runs GTA V too but with similar results

>>58652015
Decent start but there's room for improvement:
Get the 240GB PNY CS1311 or ADATA SU800 as SSD, replace the Seagate with a 2TB Toshiba P300 and the EVGA NEX with either the G2 or G3.
Since you're from US consider buying a PNY SLR 1070 (or what it's called), PNY makes good prodcuts and is ridiculously cheap in US compared to EU.
Rest looks fine, imho i'd get a different case but that's entirely subjective.

>>58652047
That does make it trickier. On the other hand, as you haven't mentioned GPU, I assume you're using the integrated one, in which case the 2500k will absolutely require a dGPU as well if you're planning to play any modern games.

>>58652180
the only reason I was considering just scrapping the apu is because I could get a pretty good deal on those intel chips, but now after you mentioned, finding a mobo at a decent price is hard.

shoud I go for broadwell onwards + an i3/pentium and then a more modern i5/i7 later?

>>58651947
750Ti and RX480 aren't in the same tier at all
If you keep the APU, the most powerful card you could use without bottleneck is a GTX 1050Ti or R9 380x
If you get a new CPU, the best card on a budget is an RX470

You can keep the APU for now, or try to sell it because when new APUs are release the value of your current hardware will tank
If you get something new, go with G4560 + B250 + 8GB 2400MHz DDR5

Basically one of these builds
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Jhyf7P
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ZhnQ7P

>>58652015
240GB SSD, possibly m.2 if you care about cable management etc
Consider a 6GB 1060 if you're at 1080p. The 1070 is really a 1440p card
Consider Kaby Lake

>>58652047
For streaming, you really want a eight threads. Personally I'd wait until Zen, because you'll be able to get a cheap quad core with simultaneous multithreading

>>58652305
>shoud I go for broadwell onwards
No, wait for Raven Ridge with an XBone-strong Polaris iGPU and Zen cores

>>58651882
They offer a bios update to run that cpu on an B150 Board. Not sure if it works. Whats wrong with that gpu?

>>58652469
If they offer BIOS updates it will work, GPU has dogshit PCB with cheap chinko components, avoid PowerColor and Gigabyte for AMD cards.

>>58652469
And to install the update you need Skylake CPU, do you have one on hand? Otherwise pay extra and get a b250. Also, the mobo you choose only supports 2133MHz ram.

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>>58646784
guys I need some serious help, having some weird shit happening here

pc is brand new, built it last Saturday. win 10 and already its stuck in a boot repair loop.

cant do anything more than a minute on desktop and trying to access msconfig or anything similar triggers a premature boot recovery

I suspected the win 10 updates fucked it since defender was nagging me. Almost 99% sure it wasnt a driver issue

but here comes the actual fun part. The fucker bsods even in safe mode and I cant roll back. I cant uninstall the updates. There are even bsods in automated recovery section but none in the usb booted sections.

doing a memtest right now but I dont think that is the cause, since the rig is brand new.

I hesitate to format the bastard since I spent 150 gigs downloading stuff.
I do not want to spend the next month with a dial up connection

I am out of ideas, wtf am I supposed to do

>>58652641
I'm sick and tired on hearing this lie. You DON'T need a Skylake CPU to upgrade the BIOS. All you need is another computer to download the updates into a flash drive, plug it into one of the USB ports, and let the UEFI utility find and install the updates from the flash drive. I've done it twice now for two Kaby Lake Pentiums on H110 motherboards from ASUS and they've worked perfectly.

>>58652656
What are the error codes thrown out in the BSOD-
>Win10
Hah, never mind, you're fucked

>>58652656
wipe it and put 7/8.1 on it anon, i work in a repair shop and have several times took a brand new laptop out of its box to set up for a customer only to have it bluescreen or bootloop

>>58652656
>I hesitate to format the bastard since I spent 150 gigs downloading stuff.
>I do not want to spend the next month with a dial up connection
You should build a caching proxy server

>>58652656
Check eventviwer for errors on the drive.

>>58647524
Update on this
Got a skylake i5 from a friend.
It all went good and I was able to flash the BIOS with no major fuck ups. Working on installing Windows7 now

>>58647721
There isn't a single game I have that I can adjust to make my 1070 go below 60fps at 1440p, most games get 90fps maxed out
The 1070 is a 1440p 60fps minimum card

>>58648699
You have no idea how to use your crawl space do you?
My house it brick, but I own it, so I don't care if I drill holes in it as long as 50¢ of plaster will make it look good

>>58648788
Frequency is always stronger than latency
Get the highest frequency your motherboard supports. Lower latency ram (assuming you can't find some alien tech DDR4) won't make a single measurable difference at the same frequency

>>58649013
>exotic cats
>Lynx
I'll continue killing any I see legally because they're not an endangered or at-risk species, and they eat my fucking chickens
They make good pillows tho

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>>58652697
mistakes were made
btw the bsod code is: page fault in nonpaged area

>>58652732
booted in cmd only safe mode and got bsod just after viewer popped up

>>58652700
reset also failed I am putting this puppy down

one last thing
for usb file recovery and virtual OS you can recommend?

and 7 or 8.1 for the next format?

>>58649673
Yesterday it was 60fps in most games, couldnt even do 1080p/60fps in all games, it can't do 120 on new games

>>58650457
1050ti draws more power than PCIe spec at stock clocks
It's not supposed to be PCIe power card

>>58653047
>page fault in nonpaged area
Nigger, did you enable page filing on your C: drive? If so, this might be a failing hard drive/SSD or a corrupted OS requiring a complete reinstall.

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u jelly OP?

>>58653047
>page fault in nonpaged area
Smacking my ram sometimes helps this

I got two questions,

What is better for some gaming and video rendering? The B150/B250 chipset or H110/H210 chipset?

If I want to use Win7 as my main OS, Should I get a Skylake CPU now and forget about Kabylake/Ryzen since Win7 won't be "supported"?

>>58653091
It's ram or low voltage overclocking

>>58646951
give it to me

>>58653151
>What is better for some gaming and video rendering? The B150/B250 chipset or H110/H210 chipset?
How would one be related to another? That's a poor question. Reword it better.
>If I want to use Win7 as my main OS, Should I get a Skylake CPU now and forget about Kabylake/Ryzen since Win7 won't be "supported"?
What's stopping you from running Windows 7 on a Ryzen or Kaby Lake system? Nothing. Just no support or optimizations for those hardware. And there is always the option of running Windows 7 as a Type-1 Hypervisor.

quick question:
for playing Forza Horizon 3, noted for it's love for moar cores, would a 4790k be superior to the 3930k? I feel like the 3930k is a downgrade but wanted a second opinion.

>>58646784
Am I invited to the party?

>>58653213
Why are those two your only options? If that's the case, why not an eight-core Xeon LGA2011 CPU?

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>>58653151
I am using B150 paired with kabylake
I had to update the bios using a skylake, so keep that in mind, if you have a friend or a cpu at hand, then go for it. Otherwise save yourself trouble and get a kabylake mobo

also:
>muh kaby lake is not compatible with win 7 meme

>>58653091
hdd is like 5 days old also scandisk came out clean, all default settings. Didnt even had a chance to tamper with anything. Now that you mention that there was a shitty ramdisk software that came with the mobo. Forgot to uncheck it in the first setup. But even so it should have started the bsods sooner. I finished Doom almost twice on this thing. its the updates

>>58653102
memtest came out clean

>>58653277
Do a clean reinstall of Windows, nigger. That's pretty much your only choice.

>>58653213
Forza Horizon 3 runs horribly on everything. It uses 100% core 0 and in my case, 20% of the other 3 cores. I think hyperthreading might help, I doubt extra cores will.
Forza has a horrible memory issue, using system ram as both ram and Vram, leading to CONSTANT stutters and frame drops. It's a well known problem and really the best way to tackle it is lock the fps to 60 or 30 depending on what you average now, overclock your CPU and your ram if possible and hope for the best
Even a Titan XP and a 5790K will have issues with consistent framerates on forza

>>58653165
I am running everything on default.

First bsod happened while playing arkham knight. Then it refused to restart kept giving app start error. after a OS restart bsod loop started

>>58653277
But did you hit it?
I did, it worked.

>>58653326
now is not the time for that, that comes later

>>58653324
Sounds like a hardware issue maybe
Swap your ram slots around, check your bios and see what your CPU is doing
If all else fails, wait for the next update to correct the problem that's obviously microsofts

I'm going to do a build in the NZXT S340 White case. Going to use an air cooler, so Ideally i'd like to take the two included fans, stick them both in the front as intakes, and buy an extra fan to mount as an exhaust.
Any recommendations for a fan? Preferably one with a black housing and white blades to match the factory ones with the case. I'm looking at the Corsair AF120's currently. The factory one seems to be the nzxt FN V2. Should I just save the $3-4 and be matchy-matchy?

>>58653239
I currently have the 4790k, my boss has a 3930k system I could just slap my GTX 1080 and drives in to.

>>58653306
That's kinda what I was leaning towards desu. I can get a steady 60 in the desert but the game shits itself in any city environment

>>58653301
I have a 7 iso sitting right here. I am spent for this day first thing to do tomorrow.
win 10 never again

Budget gaymen, shitposting and college machine in case AMD will drop the ball with Zen: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yfdw8K

>>58653403
3930K beats a 4790K on thread count alone for DX12 games. The question is, do you play DX12 games?

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>>58653403
>have $1200 PC that gets 144fps at 1440p in almost every game
>Have to lock Forza to 60fps to even have a chance of consistent fps

>>58653437
Forza is a DX12 game, it just happens to be optimized like burning garbage

>>58653437
Yeah, I have a few dx12 games. Notably Forza and Rise of the Tomb Raider. 4790k seems to be alright across the board for most things

>>58653456
>>58653489

>Forza
>burning garbage

Please pick all the above

So I noticed today that my CPU temperatures were sort of high, so I decided to reapply thermal paste and clean out the dust. Now the temperatures are a little lower. It's 40C idle and 80C 100% cpu usage. Is this acceptable? Using the default heat sync it came with.

>>58653551
You did see that I said the optimization is burning garbage right?
I mean, lock it to 30fps and it's a great Xbox game
But you know, when it's the ONLY game that performs so shittily, you can't just ignore the terrible code

>>58653556
80° is pretty fucking hot, but it's not dangerous
What CPU do you have? No stock CPU should be getting that high

Is the Sapphire RX 480 8GB good? Or should If I with the MSI one? Both are within $10 of each other.

any news on the pricing of the ASUS 4k 144hz monitor

hoping for it to be sub $1400

>>58653590
i5 2500k

>>58653571
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. The game is terribly coded

Would my i5 4460 bottleneck a 1080?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XpVRCy
Building this to game at 1440p, comments are appreciated.

Will a i5 6700k be able to run a Next Gen Gayme on a PCI-Passtrough Windows VM on a Arch Linux host, or should I get an i7 7700 ?

please buy tom computer

>>58653806
seems okay

nothing bad to pick on

>>58653879
thank you

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2zW7yf

>>58653806
You won't get much of an overclock on the 212. cryorig h7 is a bit better for only about $5 more. If you plan on buying from newegg or amazon, they are actually the same price.

>>58653629
Sapphire has higher stock clock and better PCB, but can run very hot.
MSI runs cool & quiet but has lower stock clock and slightly worse PCB.
So it's basically up to you. Also consider XFX GTR and Asus STRIX if you can get them in the same price range.

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First time building a PC and found a $700 guide online that recommended these parts. I'd like to swap the RX 480 for a GTX 1060 and the Seagate for a Toshiba P300. Am I making a grave mistake with this build?

>>58654250
let's hope so

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>>58653095
>1080p
Embarrassing

>>58653076
Simply wrong. Shut up

>>58652974
>>58652974
>There isn't a single game I have that I can adjust to make my 1070 go below 60fps at 1440p
You must not own pic related. But then again nothing can do 60FPS in that game

>>58654325
Oh and BeamNG drops to 4fps when I turn the reflection all the way up
Rekt
1070 not even a 720p 30fps card
How can nvidia even compete?
Must mean he needs to buy a Titan XP for his 1440p gaymen

>>58654053
Sorry, but what's the significance of the PCB? I'm asking because I own a Saph 8GB but it keeps crashing my PC despite driver changes and checking PSU connections. Was considering RMA and getting a MSI instead.

>>58647721
With hairworks off (which imo makes the humans look better) I get 70-75fps at 1440p, 90ish at 1080p
Still witcher is probably the most demanding game I own, getting to 120fps (for using ULMB) is easy as fuck for all other games, somewhere between high and ultra gets me 120fps in all but two of my games (witcher and Forza)

>>58654250
get a mobo with 4 dimms and get a 2-stick kit. Rx 480 and gtx 1060 basically are within 1% of each other so just get the card you like. The 480 is cheaper though. See if any WD/Hitachi hard drives are cheaper. They perform about the same.
Might be worth using intel 7500 and a b250 or h270 motherboard if the prices are similar.

>>58654250
As long as you don't want Win7, check out this build
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=yzYrHx
Note SSD

>>58654035
>You won't get much of an overclock on the 212
Come on m8

>>58653806
Looks good

>>58653556
Pretty hot under load, but fine

>>58653432
Save up for the RX470 if it's reasonably priced

>>58653265
To be clear, his method is to update a 100 series chipset mobo with the Kaby Lake update (Skylake CPU required to flash BIOS) before installing Win7 from disc or with a driver patched USB install image

If that was clear

>>58654393
1070 is THE 1440p card

>>58654463
>h270
Nah, 99% chance he won't mGPU. Anyway the 1060 does not support SLI

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Okay, /pcbg/, I'm really thinking about buying a GTX 1080. What one should I get? I'm not really interested in overclocking. I currently have a GTX 660ti. Forgive the dust in pic related, I'm going to clean it out in a minute.
Also, would my current i7 3770k work fine with it? RAM isn't an issue, I already have 32GB shoved in there.

>>58654639
1070 is at most 20% worse and $200-250 cheaper
What resolution and refresh rate are you at

Does Intel release new processors every year? And the next line will need a new motherboard, right?

>>58654657
Right now I have a 1680x1050 monitor (pathetic, I know), but I'm going to get a 1440p 144hz monitor after I get a new card. I don't really care if the 1070 has better value, I just want power.

>>58654580
>You won't get much of an overclock on the 212
>Come on m8'
Ok, perhaps that was poorly worded. How about "there are better overclocking coolers in the same price bracket"? I have my 6600k at 4.2ghz and there isn't a ton of thermal headroom if I want to stay in the 70's during stress tests like aida64. Granted, 80c in aida doesn't equate to 80c in a video game.

>>58654719
Like I said here >>58654431 I have that GPU and monitor, and it's not hard to get 120 or 144fps, but some games like witcher just demand too much, that's why I got gsync as well (but I rarely use it because ULMB is such a better alternative if you can get the fps)
A 1080 is more for 1440p144hz everything, but a 1070 is a much better deal for 1440p60-144hz everything I think

>>58654639
Jesus christ you should think about getting a set of fingernail clippers.

Holy shit do you use that to thumbnail to dig ditches?

>>58654424
Only for OC really, your problem sounds like either a driver issue or fucked up hardware anyways.

>>58654740
Weird my 6600k at 4.4GHz with a hyper 212 never passed 75° on 15 minutes of aida

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>>58654783
My nails are glamorous as fuck

>>58654580
>Save up for the RX470 if it's reasonably priced
Unfortunately it's not in Jewmany. 1050Ti costs about 150-160€ while RX470 4G costs 200-220€.
I'll only play shit like CS:GO, LoL, maybe some WoWS/WoT and mostly (older) single player including Skyrim and Total War. I guess the system should handle it just fine at 1080p.

>>58654793
Good to know. And yeah, I've been trying to diagnose it for 2 days now. Random crashed in everything from STALKER to overwatch, temps stay fine but my whole system crashes.

Is there a specific driver version I should be using or something?

>>58654796
I was averaging 68c with peak core temp hitting 71. I suppose yeah I could bring it up to 4.4 like you are doing.
The point I was getting at was just that there's better coolers in the same price range. I got my 212 for $19 though so whatevs.

>>58654869
Monitor the behaviour while idle and under load, try different loads, GPU intensive and/or CPU intensive. If you have bluescreens look at the crash code, always gives useful info.
Could be something other than the GPU, you know..

>>58646784
fuck do I wish I was his age again

>>58654945
I'm not getting BSOD though, also it's on W10 so it just gives you that patronizing screen.
It goes to black, distorts sound, and can't be resolved without a hard reset.

What's the best way to stress test the CPU/GPU? I've been trying to test power connections, and even been considering the motherboard.

>>58655248
>CPU/GPU?
Dedicated benchmarks.

>It goes to black, distorts sound, and can't be resolved without a hard reset.
As stuipd as it sounds but it actually may be your mobo.
I once fucked up a Gigabyte mobo as a kid during installation, must have mend something or applied to much preasure.
As a result i had BSOD crashed with the sound distorting at every start of a crash while the system worked a few seconds more, i even could speak through TS during this phase.

>>58651799

that's so pointless

>>58655313
Thanks for the advice on testing it. Twice in a row after reaching 75C it crashed shortly after on Furmark 3D test.

Still not sure if it's the card or MOBO, I have no other system to put it in. I also had problems with it not detecting drives after resuming from sleep.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zpT33F

Can't wait to build this PC!

Pic is my current.

>>58655532
>after reaching 75C
Neither CPU nor GPU should EVER die at 75°C, realy seems like something's broken.
>with it not detecting drives after resuming from sleep
What drivers?

>>58655535
Looks fine to me, I don't know where you're ordering from but you could probably get a evga supernova 550w fully modular for the same price.

>>58655670

Can't find those here anymore.

>have a MB that supports 1 chassis fan
>have 3 that need powering
i want to buy one of those fan controllers i can put in my optical drive slot but all the 3-4 pin ones look like flashy GAYMER shit
any other way i can power 2 120mm fans?

Give me a reason not to buy a Xeon E5-1630v4 over a Xeon E5-1270v5

I need a case that's virtually silent with air fans and has cat hair/dust filters everywhere that shit can enter the system. Any recommendations?

>>58655607
>Neither CPU nor GPU should EVER die at 75°C, realy seems like something's broken.
Yeah, that's what I've been figuring. Plan is RMA the GPU I guess unless the MOBO seems more likely, and then if the GPU still crashes at 75C, RMA the MOBO.

Annoying, because I only just finished building this PC yesterday and finally got it up and running.

>What drivers?
I'm using my SATA drivers from the manufacturer. https://www.asus.com/support/Download/1/50/1/18/wqTsdljS1qnLVVIf/41/
It's a ASUS Z170-E Motherboard. It happens very irregularly and I haven't been able to test what causes it properly.

>>58655888
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/fYTrxr/silverstone-case-sstkl06b
this one is alright but it only has filters for intake vents

>>58655861
>any other way i can power 2 120mm fans?
Doesn't your PSU come with a molex cable? I only have experience with Cooler Master cases but all the included fans come with molex in/out connector on the fans.

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>>58655969
nah all the fans are just 4pin mini connector things

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>>58655879
Anyone?

>>58655774

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wz2fD8

Use this then.

>>58655888
Fractal Design Define series.

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Got a i7 4790 (non k) for free, should it be better than my oc'd 2500k in newer games and help with bottleneck when I upgrade gpu this year?

Also wanted to reuse my 1600 mhz ram, which runs at 1.65 volts, which I've heard should work fine correct? I know 1.5 is the recommended.

Thanks.

This is gonna be my first ever build. Is it shit?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v87gqk

>>58656441
i wouldnt buy a 400 dollar gpu but thats just me

>>58656441
You don't need a z170 mobo if you aren't overclocking, get 2x8gb ram if you can spare the change. Everything else is fine.

>>58656441
Also, depending on where you're ordering, a i5 7500 could be close to the same price, you could consider that instead. However you'll need a mobo to go along with it and may as well get higher frequency ram, you'll be spending a little more.

Take note that Kaby Lakes run hot and may have issues with win 7/8

What soundcards does /pcbg/ have experience with? Im looking into upgrading from onboard because its terrible but im not intrested in rising to the level of external DACs and AMPs

>>58655535

Decided to make the change from Kaby ro Sky. I wanna stick with Windows 7 to be honest.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KkLnjc

>>58646951
nothing wrong with it anon

>>58656721

If you're trying to save money, I wouldn't borther with the 500gb SSD. If you feel the need for more space, then it's something to think about much later on.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/RsJZGf

>>58656721
A 6200 might be cheaper, the mobo you choose only supports 2133MHz ram, so the ram you have already will run at lower freq.

>I wanna stick with Windows 7 to be honest.
Its up in the air if it will really be a problem, some people have said windows 7/8 will work fine with kaby, you just won't have access to all its features.

>>58656712
You'd probably get more replies from >>>/g/hpg/

Should I expect the next generation of Intel processors to work with 200-series motherboards?

i5 or i7 for gaming? kaby lake

>>58656902
>for gaming

i5 for just gaming
i7 for streaming/editing while gaming

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Help
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/zDcMnQ,nZZ2FT,RgBrxr/
Please, which one do I go with?

>>58656910

what about shitposting with dual monitors?

>>58656910
reddit

>>58656923
ask
>>58656926

>>58656241
Big upgrade, yes. Sell your old stuff as a kit, buy all new mobo+RAM

>>58656916
1240

hey >>58656926 >>58656937 said to ask you if an i7 would be best for dual monitor gaming/browsing

i suck at r6 siege so i need something to do after i get killed

>>58656465
:^}
>>58656564
What Mobo would you recommend for Kaby Lake? And why 16 gigs of RAM?
>>58656640
Thanks for that, I swapped the Sky for the Kaby, I don't know what Mobo to get. Will the higher frequency even make a difference for the price?

sub $2500 1440p gaming build for FPS and dual monitor. or should i bite the bullet and go to i7?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLPN2R

I think my Fury Nitro is dying.

It gets less frames then my 390 and does not have a metric shitload of stutter.

Assuming its not savable, what should I do with it? I still have original packaging, and it was bought via Amazon back at the end of August. Is it possible to still RMA/return it and get a new one?

If not ill just stick to my 390 until Vega hits then ill decide whether to do nothing or upgrading.

>>58657053
RMA after you reinstall drivers

>>58656989
didn't realize there are no Kaby lake mobos out yet lel

>>58657079
Should I just upgrade drivers, I'm not on the very latest, or should i go all in with DDU?

I'm kinda pissed, this only started happening after i secured a guaranteed buyer for my 390.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Venzan/saved/Y4pzyc

Too dumb to use Linux, too scared to use Win10.

>>58656989
>What Mobo would you recommend for Kaby Lake? And why 16 gigs of RAM?
I can't really recommend any one mobo, go with the price and features, you can use 100 series mobo but you'll need to update the bios to use kaby. For a trouble free experience go with a 200 series. You don't really NEED 16gbs of ram but more is better.

>Will the higher frequency even make a difference for the price?
You'll get a slight performance increase but that depends on the mobo you choose, make sure to check what frequencies it supports.

>>58657110
dont be a fag and use both
add hackintosh at it

>>58657110

honestly that's fine

kaby is not much of an upgrade anyway - not worth the hassle for you

>>58657030

someone?

>>58657104
DDU, although AMD has a complete uninstall option now when you update

>>58657281
Already doing DDU. Will see if this does anything soon.

>>58656839
Thank you fellow anon.

>>58647812
can you get MSI and not ASrock?

>>58648133
Get the Sapphire they have good service, I dont know what that other anon told you to consider another card.

Patiently awaiting vega. Going to split up my TriXs. They've been my favorite video cards ever. It will be a sad day. I'm going to give one to my brother but I don't know what to do with the other. I want to keep it but the $200 for vega would be nice but I'm selling an old system anyways so I'll have some cash from that.

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Anyone here have any experience with the Asus VX239H monitor? I purchased one recently since the reviews were mostly positive, but I can't seem to get the colours/brightness to the right setting, my shitty 15 inch laptop screen looks better in comparison. I've calibrated it countless times but it just never seems right, either too dark, too washed out or the colours are off.

Is it possible my one is defective? Or is this just what I get for spending under $500 for an IPS?

>>58657138
Thanks for the answers.
I've updated the part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XRFMm8
What do you think?

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I don't currently have a desktop. I would like to run a linux distro as the main, will probably have to dual boot with windows if I want to install some games I have. I know 7 or 8.1 might be a bitch or impossible to install on this though.

Any glaring issues? Don't know shit about video card brands. Aren't they all the same shit from the same chinese factory?

>>58657281
>>58657079
Thanks bro, this fixed it for now, no longer getting ~45fps on games i was getting 80+ on last week. And no more stutter.

>>58657447
3000MHz RAM

Best thing to do is get an i7 and another SSD, run windows as a VM with GPU passthrough

>>58657403
Like I said earlier, you don't need a z270 if you aren't going to overclock. If you ever do overclock however you can oc locked CPU's, but usually you'd go with a xxxxk cpu (exp. 7600k). Also you'll need a cpu cooler if you OC, and kaby's run especially hot.

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>>58651882
For that case you probably want a 120mm cooler.
I can confirm :^)
psu sits right above the cpu, which is pretty annoying.

>>58657525
Maybe the ram but an i7? The performance gains relative to the cost must be very minimal. I could just overclock a bit if I wanted no?

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how did i do? the cooler is huge but it's supposed to be worth the effort.

gonna be used exclusively for gaming and to do light CAD work and daily computer stuff. i'd like to be able to run almost-ultra settings and hit 70-80fps @ 1440p

>>58657642
>Noctua fans
>LED RAM
Looks like you're riding the fence there. Not a bad build.

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>>58657642
I had a buddy who said the dark rock pro was a bitch to get on. I can't remember if it was due to his case or general stupidity, but you might wanna prep for a difficult time with it.

Also congrats on spending a shitload of money I guess

>>58657686
Looks like you have to use this ghetto wrench thing that you get with cheap furniture. A good alternative would be Noctua air coolers, you have to be retarded to fuck up a Noctua installation.

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>>58657754
>>58657686
>>58657642

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>>58657676

and i put the wrong fans in there. gonna go with the black/gray noctuas instead of the brown ones. and with so many black components, i wanted to add a little spice with the white LEDs

>>58657686

>shitload of money

i've never really had anything i could be proud of, so i've been saving my money for a while to comfortably afford this.

>>58657769

that does look like a huge pain in the ass actually. thanks for showing me that. gonna rethink my cooler now. maybe i should just go with liquid.

I like it.

>>58655607
Additionally, I took a second HDD and did a fresh install of 10, out the newest drivers direct from AMD, and it still crashed. Albiet at around 77 instead of 75 degrees, but still crashed. Looks like I'm contacting Sapphire or ASUS to have one or both of my parts RMA'd. Apologies for blogposting.

I'm looking at an ITX case and am leaning towards the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv. How does it stack up against the Fractal Design Nano S?

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>>58657813
>i've never really had anything i could be proud of, so i've been saving my money for a while to comfortably afford this.

Well good for you mang. I'm just a huge sucker for price/performance builds, and I'd probably never spend more than 1k on one. Different strokes for different folks.

Your build looks pretty good though, and I hope it goes well for ya.

>>58657274
For gaming, no. If you also edit video or stream, yes.

>>58657391
I have a 350 dollar IPS and it looks fine. Are you configuring it with the OSD or a program?

I'm looking to build a 1080p gaming/general use PC and I am wondering if it's a good idea to wait another six or so months for Vega? I'm on a 1000CAD budget.

I sit about 75cm away from my monitor and currently use a single 24". I'm considering getting another monitor and using the one I have currently in vertical orientation.
Should I go for a 25" or 27", considering how close I sit to my monitor?

>>58658284
>I'm on a 1000CAD budget.
Oh boy, you better wait and see, hopefully prices fall a little.

>>58658284
No. Vega is gonna be overkill for 1080p. I'd look at an rx480 or a gtx1060, or even maybe even a step down from those. You can maybe even find some last gen cards that'd give you good price to performance as well.

>>58657910

meant for >>58657110

>>58658284
Wait no matter what you choose, most likely prices will drop

>>58658195
I've tried using both, but I'm primarily using the Windows calibration tool.

>>58657615
Yeah, I was suggesting an i7 for a Windows VM (instead of dual boot) so that you could dedicate two cores to the VM and leave two for the Linux host. You'd also need 16GB RAM

>>58658284
Yes

>>58658284
More like wait two months for Ryzen and pay attention to the rumors about Vega. Like this anon >>58658352 said, there might only be a high end Vega card for now. No telling when will come out or what it is.. be it Vega or a slightly more efficient version of the Polaris 10

How do I buy a motherboard that won't fucking break

>>58658501
Look at reviews and make sure it's from a big three manufacturer (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte). More expensive boards are usually built better also.

But they're all made of fiberglass and can take more beatings than your mom.

>>58658336
Yeah, having a shit dollar isn't fun.

>>58658352
>>58658484
Makes sense, right now I'm mainly considering a 1060 or 480 anyways. Ryzen does have me very intrigued though, kaby lake has me pretty fucking disappointed, I'll definitely keep an eye out for it.

Hey guys. I want to do a budget gaming build. The only thing I'm going to be playing regularly is Overwatch. Is the GTX 1050 Ti worth the extra over the 1050?

Hello world!

>already know where and how to buy all the parts I want
>still have no money

fuck me, it's always the same problem

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MOBO: Asus P8Z77-V LK
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
GPU: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Armor)
RAM: Ripjaws X G.Skill 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
PSU: Corsair RM850X 850W Modular
DRIVES: 111GB OCZ-VERTEX3 (SSD) / 931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 (SATA)
COOLING: Hyper 212 Plus CPU
LED: NZXT Hue+
CHASSIS: Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 Cube Case (White)
SOUND: Bose Companion 20 Speakers
KEYBOARD: CMStorm Quickfire Rapid (Blue)
MOUSE: Corsair M65
> Used for Gaming / Editing / Recording | CANADA

So I'm working on putting together my ultimate aesthetic dream PC but it's kind of a slow process because I don't fully know what I want yet and I'm upgrading as money comes in. My plans are to eventually have a fully modded out system with custom cables, cooling and painted parts.

One problem I'm facing now is I absolutely hate how my MOBO looks but I've been told by many people not to upgrade my MOBO/CPU yet as the advancements are pretty incremental. So I'm trying to get parts to set myself up for an eventual upgrade into better unit, but for the time being I am going to make the best out of what I have.

I just purchased a fully modular PSU, white cablemod set and another 8gb of the same RAM which I intend on painting white.

With all that being said I have a few questions here to help guide myself into a better understanding of what I want to do:

- Should I work towards getting another gtx 1070 when the price points drops for the SLI setup?

- What should I be reading to get a better understanding of how to build my own liquid cooling system (or should I just get a corsair CPU closed system)

- Would getting a decent soundcard noticeably improve the sound quality from my speakers?

- Where is the best place to get a backplate for my GPU?

- What should I use to make a cover for the mobo sockets ( top arrow )

- Can I use electric tape to cover the exposed wires ( lower arrow )

Anyone else have any PC modding tips? Where should I take this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dvs8zM


I've been told it's good so far

>>58658626
It's probably worth it, but if you're getting a 1050ti you might as well get a 470, the 1050 isn't super powerful but it just happens to be a really good price

why the hell does this cost 750 bucks?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3swpFd
already have a cooler, gpu and case but my mb is approaching 10 yrs old so i gotta ditch it

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Venzan/saved/C6BGXL

Money not being an issue for the CPU, is it worth bumping it up to an i7?

So my PC sits on a small desk right next to my monitor, which is positioned on a VESA Mount at the rear of the Desk. My question is simple. Is there an easy way to make the Glossy Metal/Window of the S340 not show my entire Monitor on it via glare? Its incredibly obnoxious, but I really do enjoy the Window.

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>>58659174

>>58659150
Not with that setup it's not, your mobo doesn't support 3000MHz ram btw, consider getting a 500w psu and an i5 6500.

>>58659071
Unless you're reusing a CPU cooler, you don't need thermal paste, the stock cpu cooler that comes with the i5 has pre applied thermal paste. Get 2x8gb instead of buying it individually and dump down to a 550w unless you need the extra juice for OCing and SLI or some crazy setup.

>>58658661
Looks fine, you could probably go with an i3 but quad core > dual core

>>58659288
i can probably cut the PSU anyway since i have a brand new 600w, i just wanted to see how much it would cost with a modular one instead of this cable nest i have right now

>>58659150

Having read your comments I'd say just stick to the i5-6500 or 6600. The i7 won't do much for that extra hundred over dollars. Also ignore the previous poster. Your ram will work fine. It just won't be used to capacity.

>>58659249
>consider getting a 500w psu

For what purpose?

>>58659499
Your right 450w should be fine.

>>58659150
get a z170 mobo and a better cooler because you forgot better coolers exist.

If I want a cool, low-powered CPU, why should I buy the i7-7700T (35W) instead of buying the regular i7-7700 (65W) and underclocking it so it runs at 35W too? I don't understand

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Just cruising along on my shitbox and noticed this little guy for sale still sealed in the antistatic bag. It's an Intel DH55TC. They want 30 shekels. I'm wanting to set up a dedicated server so I'm not running my main machine 24/7. So 2 questions. Are the integrated graphics going to have problems transcoding and shit for simple things like plex? Or is that more cpu intensive? Next question, on intels spec page for raid they just list n/a. Does that mean that this board is incapable of any raid configuration? I always thought that it would be more on the software side as long as you have the avalible sata ports?

>>58659568

Read the comments stupid.

>>58659150

Sell the HSF and that ram, or save them for a future build.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6zqgqk

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>>58658633
prtscn()

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>>58659209

Is there a price drop on the horizon for ultra wides with >1440p?

New
>>58660036
>>58660036
>>58660036

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hey /g, is this an ok 1080p budget build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FYy7yf

germany here btw