ThinkPad General - /tpg/

>>58606231
Anyone here run OSX on their pads? along with windows/linux mabye?

Any place that sells the x230t screen bezel? Or complete housing.

>>58606267
Im running Ubuntu Mate on my t420

Is it possible to make it through a uni course in computer science with nothing but an X220?

>>58606665
I'm doing it right now.
X220 + Debian testing stretch.
As long as you don't have any "Art" related classes as in animation or UI design where you may want to grab a slightly beefier machine with some sort of dGPU, you'll be 100% fine.

>>58606698
Literally none, though I am thinking of taking Computer Network Engineering instead of comp sci

>>58606732
Definitely doable.
The X220's hardware is plenty for any programming related tasks, and the 9 cell battery can easily last for 8 hours, which is very nice since at my uni all the plug sockets are constantly occupied by idiots with their 17'' gaymen laptops.

My friend is selling me a X220 in good condition for $120.
It comes with 4GB of RAM and a 320GB HDD.

Should I get it?

>>58606267
Yes T420
insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/
Get a fucking SSD or its SHIT

Looking to get a T460 when the T470 comes out and the price for the 60 inevitably drops. What do you guys think about Lenovo's changes?

How hot do thinkpads run? I want to get a x220 or a t420 or a w520 for school but I need it to be quiet, cool, and have a long battery. Naturally, I'll get the extended battery for either machine, but I'm more concerned about how powerful they are. My main work is compiling C/Java/Verilog. It's also gonna be a shitpost and weebtoon machine.

>>58606910
Eh, depends on the CPU inside. Most x220s are i5 duo. 120 is ok for a new x220. Are you planning on upgrading?

>>58607060
currently my x220's i7 2640m is idling @ 42c
under load : 70c
playing light game : 80c

i7 models have been known to have heating issues. Anything under 100c shouldn't butcher it.

>>58607086
It has a i5 2520m

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this is my favorite thinkpad but it is obviously too old. What are the best alternatives to it? Focusing on portability and most importantly the screen, what's the best thinkpad I can get? X60?T61?

Should I get a T430 in excellent condition?
I know the seller, he's the bf of my one friend.

>14.1" display 1600x900 resolution
>i5-3210M CPU
>12Gb RAM
>128Gb SSD
>Windows 7 Pro
>MS Office 2013
>docking station included

>>58607635
forgot to mention price is $300 CAD

>>58607647
if its in mint/near mint condition it seems fair

T430s or T420 for comp science major who wants to also play light games (Terraria, Starbound, etc.)

>>58607655
He's also selling an X230 for the same price except it has 8gb ram and 1366x768 resolution

What say you?

>>58606231
Are any thinkpads comparable to the newer Dells? I was looking at an XPS 13 or the 2-in-1 inspiron 13, both have 128-256gb SSDs and 4-8 gb of ram with a 6200 i5 for around $500.

Are there any thinkpads in this range that could give better performance or battery life?

>>58607825
Depends on what you want. I personally prefer the x230 as i prefer laptops of that size. If you don't give a shit about the size of the laptop then go for that T430. Normally i'd recommend an x230 over a t430 any day if the t430 had that horrific 1366x768 display (even though its the same resolution as the x230 its actually a lot worse) but in your case its up to you

>>58607864
which trackpad would you say is superior? I know I won't get a macbook tier trackpad but still would like to know which one would be ergonomically sufficient than the other

Also, is there a battery life discrepancy?
Thanks for answering btw

>>58607898
I wouldn't have a clue desu the x230 one seems okay but i never use it. Always use the trackpoint.

>>58607060
if you want it to be quiet cool and have a long battery an x230 will be a better choice. TRUST ME the fan is much more quieter than on the x220 and its virtually in audible in nearly all typical use cases. Even when running prime95 on my machine its audible but it isnt loud and the system won't even top 80c. If you are so anal about the keyboard put an x220 one on it.

>>58607821
t430s will have a beefier igpu, which will be better for "lighter" 3d games. probably not a huge improvement for 2d stuff. has a thunderport and usb 3 if that tickles your bits

t420 cpu can be upgraded, for what that's worth. replacement parts are stupid easy to find. keyboard layout is better

it may look like the t430s wins out, but both can do the job you want. the huge deal breaker here is panel resolution. don't buy either if they don't have a 1600x900 panel, full stop.

with the resolution and want for newer ports aside, i'd get whatever is cheapest. it's still just an older, used laptop at the end of the day

Just bought a X220 with 4GB of RAM, and a 320GB for $120.

Did I fuck up /g/?

Planning on getting a SSD, and in the future getting 4 more GB and a 9 cell.

>>58608712
Since you bought it so cheap buy an IPS display and slap it in. Its hard to live with a TN panel.

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I read the buyers guide but I'm a complete pleb and none of the numbers really mean anything to me.

I'm currently making do with a Lenovo Z575 (not mine, have to give it back, hence wanting a laptop) and want a 15"-ish Thinkpad. How much do I have to spend to get a used/refurb Thinkpad that has a processor as good/a little better than 'my' Z575?

Also am I right in thinking that Thinkpad's use the same keyboard as other Lenovo keyboards?

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>>58607591
15" 4:3 T60p with 14" 4:3 T61 motherboard transplant

Are cheap mSATA SSD brands like Transcend and MyDigitalSSD fine for an older thinkpad or should I be a good got and get a Samsung® 850 EVO™?

Is this a good price for the specs it has?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T520-15-6-Business-Laptop-Core-i5-2410M-8GB-RAM-500GB-/322374410774

Has a 1600x900 screen which is important to me, 1366x768 is a little on the small side.

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>Lenovo ThinkPad Laptop T410 Intel Core i5 >Excellent condition
>Supper fast Processor Intel Core i5 .
>ProcessorFast Speed M520: 2,66GHz
>Lot of Memory: 6GB
>Hard Drive Capacity: 160GB
>Operating System: Windows 7 clean >installed
>Screen 14 inches
>Built in WEBCAM
>WIFI
>battery , New Charger
>Just $169 OBO

should i buy it /g/uys?

>>58609614
>nehalem trash for $170

lol no, unless those are aus/cad dollars

The T410 is worth no more than $120.

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How much would you guys pay for this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-thinkpad-T510-Laptop-Core-i7-M620-2-67-GHz-180-SSD-8GB-15-6-Screen-/201785803213

>>58609786
About half of that, personally.

>>58609614
>>58609750

yeah it's CAD. Its an alright price from what im looking at, comparing to others

>>58609931
How come? Does that gen have some kind of big pitfall I don't know about?

>>58608862
>Since you bought it so cheap
Did I really?

Also never used TN before. What's so bad about it?

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Just won an auction for an X220t w/ "i5 2.5Ghz 2GB RAM 320GB HDD". No battery, no power supply, and no mention of stylus. Bottom right corner is cracked/chipped on palm rest side and there are some case scratches.

Honestly, no info on if it turns on, works, etc. Just physical descriptions. But as it wasn't mentioned, I figure I can get a refund if it doesn't work out.

Anyway, paid $70. Good deal or did I fuck up?

>>58609786
Going from experience with my T410, the GPU is shit, and I found with 256MB memory it was more of an inconvenience than anything else. It might be better since that should be 512MB though. The exact implementation of the graphics varies a bit too in regards to whether it's switchable, depending on when it was made.

I also have issues with the CPU (i5-560m) on my T410 overheating. Maybe the cooling on the T510 is better, but that i7 is probably going to shit out even more heat.

It's still not too bad a buy at the current price, but I doubt it still will be when the auction ends. The main thing going for it in my eyes is just the screen, otherwise a later model will give a fair improvement in performance all round, be less bulky, and have other small nuances like GPT support.

>>58610262
The GPU is shit in what sense? I already have a desktop for gaymen.

I'm pretty much only ever going to use it as a word processor and for watching Youtube videos. As such the SSD and 1080p display were what caught my eye.

Finding a T520 with an SSD and 1080p display is proving to be quite difficult, eBay's filtering system is shit. I realise I could just change them out myself later but I'm trying to keep the cost down.

>>58610374
It is shit in the sense that it is a GPU which is not good.

>>58610452
GPU which is not good because of what factors?

>>58610486
It is slow and not particularly power efficient.

>buying ancient laptops

Why?

>>58610547
hmmmmmmmmmmm...

There are videos of people using it to run games like GTA5 (at the lowest settings ofcourse), so I'd think it'd be fine for videos/youtube and the like though?

is it worth it to get an x230 without an IPS? I can always just upgrade it myself, right?

If I am going back for a meme cs degree, would a T460 be a good option? I see nothing about it in the buyers guide. Money is not currently a problem.

>>58610727
Yep, clean swap from what I've heard

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drop my x41t few days ago.

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>>58611385
repaired it.

show your damaged thinkpads.

>>58610727
>>58611047
Good luck finding an x220/x230 IPS panel though they are long out of production and quite rare these days most listings you find on ebay are fake (they send you compatible model not actual LP125WH2-SLxx).

>>58610617
just got out of the joint and needed a good laptop for cheap

>>58611614
these chinese IPS panels may not be as good as what came from factory but they shit all over the TN panel that they come with...

>>58610486
The discrete GPU won't be much better than the integrated one for most applications. That comes at the cost of battery life and heat, which can limit your CPU, and probably more importantly in your case, the fan will be noisy. In my case it's more of a problem because of limited memory though.

Though sure, if you really just want it for fairly menial tasks and aren't bothered by portability, it'd probably do quite well, but you'd still have to hope that the price stays low.

>>58611385
>>58611397
u fokin roosky, get a tripcode already

>>58612537
Portability as in battery life? I'm not really bothered so long as it will last an hour or so doing said 'menial tasks'. Whenever I use a laptop it's for extended periods so it's pointless even bothering with the battery.

If I can get it for under 200 does that seem like an ok price given my usage scenario? I note you can get a T420 or T520 for around that but they are poverty spec with a shit screen and a HDD.

how much extra would you pay for a 12 months warranty in the $300 range? i'm considering buying from a third party as there really aren't too many thinkpads for sale in my country

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>>58612581
Partly battery life, but also the size and weight. It'll be reasonably thick and heavy, not unmanageable but not ideal to carry constantly.

I'm not too sure what a good price would be, but around 200 sounds alright just going off a quick look at ebay.

>>58612775
Huh, I thought ThinkPad's were bricks but it's smaller in most dimensions and lighter than my current laptop. I can't say I enjoy carrying around a 15.6" laptop but fuck working for extended periods on a tiny screen with a shitty res.

Gonna bid on this badboy then and hope I don't get screwed over.

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I'm looking at buying a t61 near me off craigslist

dude is saying it shuts off randomly on occasion, any ideas on what might be causing this and if its fixable? My guess is overheating

also how do i check if computrace is enabled

>>58612997
>T61 randomly shutting off
Almost certainly the work of Nvidia housefires. I wouldn't dew it if I were you.

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>>58610256
Anyone?

>>58610256
>>58613459

>no info if it turns of, works, etc.
You're going to want to test this thing before too much time goes by, otherwise you just handed some chink $70 for a busted ass piece of shit.

>missing battery, charger, stylus. Poor exterior
If you're down with buying all the missing stuff and troubleshooting it, it sounds like a fun project actually. Sourcing a new exterior is going to be the hardest part though.

My intuition says it probably works, why else would he leave the RAM and HDD in it.

>>58606231
Got a T410 for $30, SSD for $30 and have a decent linux box for dragging around with me.
How did I do, /g/?

>>58611397
DEAR FUCKING CHRIST

>>58613618
He also did list the OS and I feel like I can dispute it if there is an issue as it was on eBay and there is nothing saying it doesn't work.

Already looking at around $40+ for a new battery and power supply.

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what are the real life battery life extends of a t430s ? Anything to do with pic rel ?

Anybody got experience with those 3M privacy screens? I want to get one and I've heard the gold ones work the best.

>>58606231
is the t430 keyboard already different than t420?
In other words is the t420 the last t model with sturdy, big keys?

>>58614949
The chiclet keyboards on the T430 and later are still sturdy and big, in some cases probably yet more solid. The main shortcoming is just the layout itself being a fair bit less bit less comfortable to use, beyond that it comes down to personal preference more than anything.

>>58615086

I have efficient notebook already and I'm thinking about getting old T model as secondary machine, mostly to check this meme out. As the internals of these two models seem pretty similar, and both can be found with 1600w panels, I thought about chosing t420 for the keyboard itself.

I will have chicklets in any modern thinkpad for the rest of my life so t420 looks like the last viable ocassion to try the legacy keyboard out.

Is it safe to use turbo boost and tpfancontrol?

My speed is 2980 manual 2 and 39 celsius.

>>58615113
Sounds like you might as well go with the T420 then. There are definitely advantages with the T430 but if it's just as a secondary computer it likely wouldn't matter anyway. The prices reflect the differences to a reasonable degree as well.

Got t430 for 250$
>3320m i5
>4gigs of ram (added 4gb from shitty one lenovo)
>1600x900
>battery lasts min 2h wifi shitposting
>no scratches, except one because some retard removed lenovo sticker on top
>warranty ended in january, week ago
>cuckdows 10 runs skyrim on low with no problem
>mint/ubuntu runs games from steam flawlessly
>keyboard is worse than in my x201 but not as shit as /gay said

Best memepad

>>58615171
Ok then. But am I not wrong that there is no quality difference between both 1600 panels?
As i don't care about efficiency so much I'd suffer with shit-tier display.

>>58615286
>1600x900 screen
>no SSD
I'm literally DYING of laughter over here pal.

>>58615427
I forgot, there was 120gb samsung ssd, swapped with my 250 crucial

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If I buy a memepad that has genuine Windows 7 on it already and I'm not the kind of absolute cretin that uses Linux, is there any way I can make that Windows 7 install 'clean' (i.e. not full of spyware) or should I just go ahead and install a pirate version of Windows 7?

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>>58606231
So, I boot up my laptop and notice I can't type my password in, so I plug in a keyboard to log in, I open up notepad and notice that my 4 5 R T F G V B, Left Shift, and Left Ctrl keys all don't work. I also noticed that they're all keys that are staggered vertically (with the exception of the modifiers).
I went to a keyboard tester site to get a visual representation of the keys that don't work.
What even?
What do i do?

>>58615483
In t430 is a sticker with key, you can also grab it with program like i did after "upgrade" to cuck10

>>58615520
Ye it's been a while since I've had a laptop but they are supposed to be on a sticker under the battery? Aren't there a limited number of installs you can do though.

Fuck using Cuck10, installing updates for 20 minutes every week is a fucking chore.

>>58615504
Shit's fucked nigger.

>>58615579
But what's fucked yo?
mobo?
keyboard?

>>58615553
Dont know. I left my for a half a day, it installed all updates, then i installed lenovo settings and companion and now it is installing only defender updates

>>58612557
but I'm ukarainian.

>>58613792
: 3

>>58607034
Only reason I'd get a newer Thinkpad is TB3 tbqhf, so everything between T430 and T470 is trash.

>>58607898
Learn the trackpoint. It's weird at first but dope AF afterwards. I got an X200 first and it has no trackpad. Got a T430 now and I've never used the trackpad.

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Because I'm new to this and there's so many of you veterans here, I want to ask what you suggest for my needs...

Nursing school student
Ex-Mac fag
I want something slim
Best CPU available
Great screen
Can handle Phantasy Start Online 2

Do I want the x220 with IPS screen?
Also, is there a specific i7 cpu version that's considered the "newest"? Like a Haswell chip or something?

How do I know it has good graphical capabilities?

>>58611397

If that's real and working, it actually looks pretty fucking rad. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise!

>>58608960
Thinkpad have better keyboards and I'm pretty sure that Z575 has some mobile AMD garbage, so anything T420 and up should match it for cheap. Also, it'll be more durable.

>>58610256
If it works, good deal. Get a cheap charger and a battery and you're gold. Slap some tape on the chips and stickers on the scratches and you'll be like the rest of /g/.

Really though, if it works and you wanted a fixer upper, $70 was pretty good.

>>58615520
>you can also grab it with program like i did after "upgrade" to cuck10

Not him, but please explain further. You mean still transferring the 7 license to 10? Is it still possible?

>>58611037
If you want a good durable laptop, T430. If money isn't an issue and you want something new, T470.

>>58615553
You can disable the Windows updates in services. I've done it on every W10 install I've done. Along with disabling Cortana.

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>>58615791
what else is gonna happen to him), only housing was damaged. I know, thanks.

>>58615791
Literally why didn't you just replace the entire display? It was scuffed to shit before the drop anyway. But qt dankpad nonetheless.

How do I get good with clit mouse, I still use the trackpad mostly

>>58615775
>Nursing school student
cuck

>>58616112
in my country prices for x41 tablets are fucked up, sometimes it cost more than x60\61 tablet, I can buy x41 from ebay, but shipping will cost more than a notebook, by the way the parts will cost more than I pay for tablet. I buy it for 20$ cause seller think that it has dead motherboard, because it didn't see 2.5hdd(it uses 1.8hdd 3.3v), so it was selling like a broken, i just made sata mod and stick in msata ssd. I don't give a fuck about scratches, it's just a tool.

>>58611397
#HACKTHEPLANET/10

well done broseph

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>>58616280
by the way I have both, and x41 is more cozy, screen is better and has high frequency PWM, it's heating less, bad that it has poor specs for today.

>>58616308
thanks)

>>58611614
I bought a fake one on ebay for an X220, and now have an X230 with the original IPS, and while the difference is there it isn't so drastic that people should be discouraged from getting the best compatible model they can find. It goes a little brighter, I don't have problems with tint (which I corrected on the previous display anyway) and the ghosting is to a minimum, but the fakes are still far preferable to tft.

Updated a T400, from a P8400 to a T9900
>Doesn't heat-up that much more
>Churns trough everything now
>Slightly lower battery time

All in all, considering how cheap it was and because I have a 33+, I think it's worth it

>>58615775
How's the old people's poop cleaning going?
Also, get a x230 with IPS. Get a i5 version, the i7 is not a big step up.

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Thinkpad Yoga 12 2nd gen i5 8gb ram reporting in.
r8 & h8

what's the best way to remove a supervisor on a ThinkPad W530?

Also is it a good idea to change the FHD panel with a new one? or is this the best?

>>58616575


It's going alright. I work the Alzheimer's wing. Love my job!

Thanks dude.

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>>58616261


How does it feel knowing your job contributed nothing to the common good of the work, faggot?

>>58617099

Auto cucked

Contributes* world*

will any kind of SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous ram stick work on my tinkpad t400
I have a measly 2gb stick right now and an open slot hungry for a another one
I'm planning to buy one off of amazon or ebay or something only looking for that compatibility.
Any reason why my notion is retarded?

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sup /tpg/, just got the e570 i scammed out of lenovo for half price when they had that employee pricing + cyber monday discount + thinkpad brand discount stacking bug going in late december (~1800 buck laptop for like 700+tax)

dubs decide what distro i install (might not deliver till like friday night tho)
also, won't put ubuntu on it so ill ignore your get if you waste it on that botnet

>>58617605
Are you sure its DDR2 you need? Thinkwiki lists the T400 as using DDR3.

Otherwise there isn't too much you can fuck up. Ideally check the timings for your current memory against the new one to make sure it's not going to slow things down, but I doubt you'll find much for sale that's slower than the stock RAM.

>>58617638
templeos

>>58617638
Debian + Hurd

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>>58609178
I do sys admin work daily, could this replace my T510 as driver?

Did that anon who replaced his keyboard end up making the video?

>>58608712
Did I do good? I'm afraid I fucked up. Some people say I could have gotten something better for the same price.
But as far as I have looked nothing was as cheap.

>>58617638
Slackware

>>58616839
How's the summer, pal?

>>58617663
it's what I get from my
> sudo lshw -class memory
command.

>>58618058
Because it probably lists 1066Mhz speed.
I have a T400, can confirm it has DDR3.
Albeit it is picky, montevina platforms only like DDR3 modules like when they first came out, 1.5V and either 2 rows for 2GB (8 chips) or 4 rows for 4GB (16 chips)

>>58617993
wouldn't mind slackware 2bh

>>58618108
so I should look for 2 faster rams? mine lists 667Mhz speed right now

>>58618138
Do it then :)

>>58618142
i'll do it if no one has gotten digits for something else by the time im back from work/thread died

>>58618161
Sure thing.

Let me throw in something else.

Gentoo

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I have a Thinkpad T420 with the i7-2620M.

I do a lot of CPU intensive stuff like using olex and other crystallography and it's starting to become annoying how long operations take. I'm looking at the T560 but it still only features an i7 6600U which is still only a dual-core. Does Lenovo not offer better processing power in the T-form-factor?

>>58615286
>cuckdows 10 runs skyrim on low with no problem
only have hd4000? i run skyrim everything high, with 2xaa and 4xaf. nvs5400m though

>>58618230
>T5**
>U
lol, thinktoddlers btfo
T460p is what you need then.

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Xt a comfy!

>>58618737
what sleeve is that?

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>>58618737
Just realized Lenovo got some inspiration from Atari/DIP.

>>58616389
how difficult is it to replace the display? got mine a while ago and I'm currently upgrading anyway (5400 rpm drives should be outlawed).

also I'm wondering if I should put 16 or 8 GB in there. technically it could handle 16 and I really don't feel like upgrading again half a year later when programs have become even worse resource hogs again, but I am not sure if that wouldn't just turn everything else into the bottleneck
got the version with the i5 2520M

$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            15G        5,2G        2,8G        1,1G        7,5G        8,8G
Swap:           11G          0B         11G

Modern operating systems use excess memory as I/O cache so there's no downside of having more than what your active programs require.

In addition 4GiB sticks deprecate in value much more than 8GiB sticks.

just got my 2nd hdd caddy and 1tb sshd. transfer rates stay at 100MB/s

fuck year

>>58618951
Pretty easy, because there's only one resolution for the X series up until the x240 you never have to worry about changing display cables or anything. Just do your best to find a good screen. This website has the best advice on that front: http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/resources/

I only have 8gb on my x230 and I see no reason to add more. I do have applications that need 16gb but I'll probably end up getting my desktop shipped from my homeland before I need them so ultimately it's irrelevant.

>>58619240
>>58619344
Thanks guys

>>58617638
TAILS.

>>58617638
Arch

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THINKing about my first Thinkpad. Think is a funny word, no? :^)

My biggest question is: Should I stay the fuck away from i3? I'd already be putting $200 plus in for a new SSD and max ram. I want this thing to replace my Macbook Pro for daily use. I don't even really know why I don't like it. I also have an iPad Pro, but the x230t seems to be exactly what I need as far as form and toughness goes.

I know the IPS displays are desirable? Are they common on tablets? Is there anything else that stands out about this machine?

Specification:
Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional 64bit
12.5" Multitouch HD (1366x768) 300 NIT Wide-Viewing IPS Panel Display with Wacom Pen
Intel Core i3-2370M @ 2.4GHz
Video Card: Intel HD Graphics 3000
4GB DDR3 PC show contact info MHz Memory
HITACHI 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s HDD
Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 WiFi Card
SD Card Reader slot
integrated Webcam and Fingerprint
Genuine 6-cell Battery

>>58618140
Just pop the thing open then, the slots have the type of supported module written on them :)
>Mine says "1.5v DDR3 SO-DIMM"

i want to buy a shitty used thinkpad to gentoo it and use to program stuff via ssh on my main pc. is it a good idea?
also, having a lasting battery is important. is it easy to swap thinkpad batteries? are they rare?

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X230 FHD 1080p mod kit arriving today :D

>>58620161
Not at all rare. Grab a T60 and you're set for life

>>58620438
Where did you get it? I've been looking at the nitrocaster mod

>>58620438
make a video installing it!

>>58620532
even if i live outside the us?

>>58620581
yes, purchased from nitrocaster

>>58620583
maybe

>>58615845
Search for microsoft assistive technologies

I downloaded their upgrading app, then let magic happen

Also there is no need to grab the key (in t430), because after another let down with kubuntu i reinstalled 10 and it activated automatically

>>58621039
pls pls pls
I really need a good guide, since I want to do it as well.

>>58618355

Anons said to not falling for nvidia in thinkpad for gayming
Some cuck and goyim stuff

I got fucked in my ass again by my e-friends from the internet, kek xD

>>58617638

Another roll for TempleOS.

T430 refurb with ssd + 16gb ram upgrade. everything came out to be $350. love it.

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>Professor says he doesn't like macbooks
>Then says everyone who is working with a macbook right now will get minus points in the exam
>99% of the students sit there with a macbook
>mfw

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>>58617638
Btw, this is the babe you guys are rolling for.

Also adding another 8gb of ram and a second 480gb ssd, just waiting for those in the mail.

>>58621120
If only templeos would run outside of a VM i would

>>58621674
price is in canadian monopoly money btw, so that's like 600 (less?) USD

>>58619637
About to pull a trigger.

$200 for i3 or $300 for i5?

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I have found the need for a laptop recently as I need a new tablet and I could use the portability for work.

The one feature I'm after is the "360" flip.

I ended up with Lenovo Yoga 900-13ISK as the best option. I basically got a boner as I saw it.

If it was 15-17" it would have been perfect.

Am I making a mistake?

>>58621791
>Am I making a mistake?
Can you install Gentoo?

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>>58620438
>>58620581
>>58620583
>>58621071

it just arrived =D

>>58622202
awesome!
enjoy it!

(pls make a video)

>>58622202
>already ruined by autism
wewlad

>>58618799
The standard Lenovo Neopren Sleeve

>>58622202
Make macro photos of the board and post them.

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>>58613943
yes, no, maybe, idk, can you repeat the question ??? anyone ?

>>58622380
>yes, no, maybe, idk, can you repeat the question Isn't that from a Strokes song or something?

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Would anybody be interested in some more street wear inspired gnu/Linux stickers? Most of the ones I see plastered on /g/'s thinkpads look sort of shit and i'd like to try help change that.

I'm using a t420s and recently my networking has been dropping out it happens if I press a key too hard and it says the hardware switch is disabling networking however sometimes it happens on its own and won't find any networks.
I've checked that the card & antenna are properly connected.
Any other ideas?

>>58622445
>stickers
kill yourself

>>58621842
I'm guessing memes means it's ok good!

>>58622472
pretty much
>work laptop
>marcom people always give us a bunch of extra company stickers to stick on our work laptops since they have extras
>"hehe thanks ill try to find a spot"
>over a year and 15-20 stickers later, my laptop is still free of degeneracy

i wonder if the marcom people dislike me not using their stickers

>>58622511
Hahahaha what a shitlord. Why the fuck would you buy a new production piece of flimsy bullshit when you could spend like $400 and put the rest back? Oh, yea, AND have a more durable and reliable machine?

>>58622545
>my laptop is still free of degeneracy
But you're on 4chan so that's a lie.

>>58622202
Nice, do you think it will be a difficult installation? I already have moderate experience in soldering, I'm thinking I should be able to do it

Hey guys I fell for the modern thinkpad meme what to do

>>58622585
i don't browse any social media (including 4chin) on my work devices, it's a tech company and netsec has a pretty elaborate mitm setup so ...my work computers are Certified (c) free of degeneracy

>>58622635
sell it and get a x220

>>58607413
Sorry to tell you this, but this is most likely a ripoff. A good condition X220 with that CPU usually goes for $200-$220

>>58616351
whoa I wouldn't turn those beauties down if they came driving by my house

>>58622652
Not the glorious x230 masterrace? Ha, pleb! It's like he doesn't want 16 gigs of ram and less weight! What a fag!

>>58617844
if you do admin work you're connected to computers remotely most of the time, right? in that case, anything with a keyboard that is capable of running modern linux is enough.

>>58622739
>implying you can't put 16GB in an X220
>literally the same exact machine besides keyboard and CPU
What are you on about, anon?

>>58622778
>literally the same exact machine besides keyboard and CPU
Ha. What are -you- on about, anon?

>I have two objects
>From physical analysis alone I can tell that one weighs more and has different physical dimensions
Yep, must be "literally the same exact machine!"

>>58622739
I have 2x8GB in my X220 working just fine.

>>58622778
USB 3.0 and upgraded iGPU/CPU makes it superior over x220. You can even swap the keyboard for a classic one, just did that today. I don't see any reason why somebody would choose an x220 over an x230

>>58622842
>USB3
just get an express card

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>>58622889
Why in the fuck would you want express card ports over hardwired ports? Especially if you can use the express card slot for other shit

>>58622889
You can have a free express card slot then and put smartcard reader in it, for example.

>>58622966
this isn't about buying an X230 right now, it's about upgrading. there is no justification for upgrading from X220 to X230. besides, what do you actually use expresscard for? it's dead but USB3 gives it the purpose of prolonging the life of an X220

>>58622968
>smartcard
what do you even use that for as a private user?

>>58623075
He is not upgrading, but trying to decide how to downgrade. It is better to downgrade to 230 since there are no disadvantages over 220.

>>58623075
I'm confused, I thought this was about somebody buying an X230 or an X220. Regardless I'm probably going to buy an eGPU dock in the future, there's plenty of things you can do with an expresscard.

>>58623181
as far as I'm concerned anything is a downgrade compared to the far superior X201 with 1440x900 16:10 display. can't be beat, don't even try.

>>58623222
whoops, should reply to
>>58623143

Is an X230 with 256GB SSD, 8GB RAM and Windows 10 worth it for £299?

>>58623390
screen? cpu?

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Just upgraded my T420 to a M14X R2 display. Feels pretty good, famalam.

>>58623430

IPS, Dual-core i5 3320M 2.60GHz

>>58623390

maybe, desu

>>58623470
>wasting money on placebo tier upgrades
>pretty good
Not at any degree good.
Kys

>>58623567
>Implying the 20 series had good displays

>>58623222
>X201
Seriously, Is this a meme?

If you are in the "old X series" market, the x230 is objectively your best choice. I'm interested in hearing your argument for the x201.

>>58623647
after PWM adjustment, yes, it was acceptable.
Unless you're a hipster faggot

>>58623222
X201 is useless when there is x200 and x200s.

>>58623680
Well more 1080p for us I guess

>>58623710
>Digital computers are useless when there are mechanical calculators

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>>58623222
That's the X201s that has that display, and it's not that great. The viewing angles and colors make the T420 stock panels look good. All it really has going for it over the X220 and X230 is aspect ratio and resolution. Don't get me wrong, I love my X201s, but if you're buying an X series for the screen, you're better off with an X61T for that sweet 1400x1050 IPS, or those prebuilt X62s if they're still available.

>>58622265
>ruined by autism
what did he mean by this ?

>>58622704
I have heard otherwise, a bunch of people told me that it's good, and one dude bought one for the same price. Other people have gotten them for similar prices.

Ebay/PayPal has buyer protection, and at worse I can always charge back.

Seller also has thousands of positive feedback, so there is that.

>>58623771
the screen is interchangable and resolution is everything. no one cares about contrast, color or viewing angles on a thinkpad. I have to agree with you on the X61 though. 4:3 is even better. the X220 ruined it. everything after X201 is useless.

Just picked up this badboy.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201785803213?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

How did I do?

>>58624159

terrible desu, i hope you're ashamed of yourself

>>58624199
I'm not desu, I'm excited.

>>58624159
lmao, why did you pay so much?

Thinking of getting an X220 since they are cheap on eBay and do what I need out of it. The display is the only thing I would want improved, and maybe at least one USB 3.0 port. What's ThinkPad is a step up from the X220 that could still come in at under $350? Preferably with Windows 7 but Windows 10 isn't a deal breaker.

Do I buy a T460 or e7470? Already have a comfy x220

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Just got a Thinkpad p50, it's pretty amazing so far, but I have a question about the SDD upgrade slots. I have a regular 2.5in SDD from an older laptop of mine I was hoping to install into it along with a 2.5 HDD I just got for it. I was wondering if there was anyway to fit a 2.5 SDD into the two M2 slots. It's almost a perfect fit, except the SATA cable I had in my old laptop won't allow the SDD to fit. Is it as simple as finding a better SATA cable or is the port not meant for a full 2.5 in SDD?

Not my pic, but next to the HDD is where I'm trying to fit the 2.5 SDD. I don't have the trays for the SDD chips, it's just open and looks like it could fit a whole 2.5 SDD.

>>58624380
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

>>58624267
It seemed like a decent price :/

It has an SSD an i7 and a 1080p screen, what should I have paid? Worse ThinkPad's were selling for more from buy it now sellers.

>>58624364
You could go for an X230, do not fall for the convertible tablet meme.

>>58624159

Nice. I don't think people actually read the description before criticising your purchase.

This has a 1080p display with an SSD and 8GB of RAM.

A steal desu.

>>58624449
yeah, first gen i7, piss poor performance and chugs power

>>58624505
I guess so. I'll be using it plugged in 99% of the time anyway so I don't really mind about power usage. I looked up benchmarks on it and it didn't seem too bad.

>>58624485
Thanks. What's a fair price for the 8 gig ram model (new or used)?

It's weird that I think about it just now, but isn't it interesting how so many people, including me, worship old laptops? I mean, I love my T400 and my X220 but admiring them the way I and a lot of you people do is pretty irrational.
We could all buy brand new laptops and be happy with them but we choose to go through some hardships to use old tech that some people might call outdated.

>>58624505
You did just fine, Make sure you replace the trackpad as that looks like shit and you'll be golden.

>>58624669
Might I add that I'm super high right now and that I hope my comment makes any sense at all to you...

>>58624669
I can't speak for the rest of /tpg/ but personally I'm a poor student, these computers do well enough for shit posting and light workloads, the build quality is excellent and they're so cheap to repair as well.

>>58624567
tbqhf I would just buy a 4gig and put 16 in it. Runs damn well.

Thinking of switching swapping out my 9cell t420,ssd,hd+ screen for a x220 6cell,ips w/ dock. Both i5. Am I a madman? I find the x220 ips unnaturally appealing

>>58624669
>some hardships
Everything on my T420 works as intended and there are 0 features that a newer computer has that i NEED.

>>58624687
Ye it looks quite worn, do they get shittier to use as that happens or is it just an aesthetic thing?

>>58624669
>>58624691

Get that red pill out of your mouth right now before it's too late.

>>58624757
But why would I want to be bluepilled? If the truth is that Thinkpads are great computers, suited for all tasks a sane user could throw at them, then that's a not so unconvenient truth I'm willing to accept.

>>58624669
Can't you just let us enjoy our fucking laptops, you degenerate faggot?

>>58624820
>suited for all tasks a sane user could throw at them

This is what it all comes down to. I will say this:
>Do you really want to carry around an adapter at all times for HDMI?
>Battery life. Battery age.
>faster wireless
>not having to spend $200+ to upgrade ram & put an SSD in
>generally better case construction in the past few years
>not having to carry around a thicc laptop
>peoples' impression of you

>>58624669
>you people
get
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t

the
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e

fuck
u
c
k

out
u
t

You fucking normieshit faggot before I have continue my potentially endless campaign of hate towards you

>>58624669

worship laptops that are full upgradable and dont require shitty dongles?

>>58624916
lol I love you

I have installed 8gb ram, an i7 3612qm, an ssd, an UltraBay adapter with a mech drive, and I'm working on the eGPU for my t430 as we speak.

Where do I go from here apart from UltraBay ssd, mSATA ssd, and 16gb ram? Is it worth it to upgrade the panel?

>>58624886
>Do you really want to carry around an adapter at all times for HDMI?
idk ask a macbook owner
>Battery life. Battery age.
sure is nice they're user-replaceable though
>faster wireless
sure is nice they're user-replaceable though
>not having to spend $200+ to upgrade ram & put an SSD in
sure is nice they're user-replaceable though
>generally better case construction in the past few years
yeah not really seeing much of this
>not having to carry around a thicc laptop
oh no my noodley little internet arms
>peoples' impression of you
no one who matters gives a shit

>>58624736
>switching better for worse because worse is appealing

>>58624736
I can totally understand you. I love my X220 more than I ever loved a machine. It's such a pleasure to use.

>>58615775
>Phantasy Start Online 2

No thinkpad is going to run this.

>>58625059
>sure is nice they're user-replaceable though
But in all honesty we're stitching the last legs on old horses. To be honest, I have a Thinkpad because like the X machines and got nostalgic, but by the time you have to put money into it, you should have likely bought something more modern. Unless you can't afford it, but that's logic we generally grow out of.

>>58625190

> but by the time you have to put money into it, you should have likely bought something more modern

why are you even in this thread, if you want your donglegate laptop, then leave

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My chromebook started dying so I went to Fry's to get one of their T430 refurbs.

The refurbs are weird. The company that cleaned this one up used stickers over the wristrests and the lid to hide blemishes. The dummy who put the sticker on the lid misaligned it so it looks kind of odd.

So far it's running like a champ. Plus the keyboard is super comfy.

>>58625264
I recently bought a refurbished T420 and the store I bought it from put a Lenovo sticker right on the scratch on the top. I complained and got $30 off. Not even mad.

>>58625253
btfo much?

>>58625067
>>58625099
It's difficult decision. While I dont really have anything negative about my t420 there is something really neat about the compact x220. Guy is selling it for $225. i5,ips,320gb,8gb,dock.

The t420 I have is also probably the best hardware variant you can get. Pretty much an i5 fully loaded. Would just need an msata or something to replace the 120gb ssd. Decisions decisions..

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>>58623567

> placebo

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>10 seconds in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDmCmmvIA8A

>x201
>x220
>x230
>people literally buy things with 12 inch screens
are you nigs retarded?

>>58625966
If your t420 is a rare breed then I would advise against selling or trading it. At this point you will never come across something like it again. Buy the x220 and enjoy that too.

>>58607060
My X220 was a little bit hotter than I liked at 50 idle and 85-90 under load. My new X230 is much better now - idle at 40 and max load is 75.

I agree with >>58608016 , X230 fan is extremely quiet at idle and noticeable but nonintrusive at full load 100% CPU & GPU.

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>>58626502
The form factor is /comf/ and its lighter than lugging a T series around

update, fucked up trying to install fhd mod

>>58626573
Oh shit what happened? Did ya fry your mobo

>>58626561
the x1 carbon is light to carry around too

>>58626599
That is true, but there are reasons to choose an X2xx over an X1

>>58626633
>but there are reasons to choose an X2xx over an X1
such as?

>>58626502
If you use a laptop for long periods of time you're going to need either an external display or an external keyboard and a laptop stand for optimal posture.

12" screen is no problem if you only use external screens for serious computing. Having docking stations makes attaching external devices easy. If you don't have external devices and constantly need to depend on a laptop screen then maybe X-series isn't for you.

>>58626502
>>58626599
X1 carbon has a whole series of problems. Something like the X230 is the perfect compromise of Weight/Size/Battery/Performance/Functionality/Storage/Price. I have two SSDs in mine, it plays most modern Vidya sufficiently, and it's not a drag to take to lectures. What's not to love?

>>58626594
nope, but something about the kit seems to be defective and there's alot of noise in the image, flickering pixels and lines.

i guess i will return the LCD.

>>58626653
Money
Repairability
Upgradeability
Full SD card slot

>>58626670
If you ever need to do serious computing on the laptop, 12" is awful.

If you never do, get a desktop.

>>58626710
>SD card
y tho

>>58626719
So you can put in a full SD card why fuckin else

There's people who want that, I know it's hard to imagine people who want something different out of a computer than you.

When I actually need to work I have a spare monitor at home, I don't need haul a laptop with a big ass screen to take notes at a lecture

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>>58623075
I did just that over Christmas, I upgraded from an X220 to an X230, it was a wonderful decision. Better temps, fresher battery, original IPS instead of one of dubious origin, and Vidya went from 3fps to 30fps (pic related, also I'm the guy who always posts MGSV) I wholeheartedly reccomend that everyone with an X220 move on up to an X230 and subsequently swap the keyboard. I had the USB 3.0 variant of the X220 but two USB 3.0 is even better than one!

>>58626290
Nice.

>>58608712
>>58617986
>>58610097
if its not used to death its a good price

>>58626867
It's in good condition.

So it's an international item, but I think I may have honestly gotten a steal if it ever gets here and it's in decent condition.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230T-Tablet-PC-i5-3320M-2-6-GHz-4GB-320GB-12-5-Zold-/322400024328?hash=item4b1089f708:g:1uMAAOSwt5hYhgra

>>58626907
Also, I know no ratings danger etc, but with how prone eBay is to taking the sellers side, I don't feel like I'm really risking anything apart from the $27, which feels worth it.

>>58626920
*buyers side, I'm retarded

>>58626719
>If you ever need to do serious computing on the laptop, 12" is awful.
That's why you use an external monitor or two for serious computing as you would with any other laptop. Single 15" FHD isn't going to be much better and larger ones are too huge to lug around comfortably.

Desktop is terrible if you want to work at more than one place.

>>58626290
the only downside is that the display is glossy

>>58626879
then you did great

>>58627025
Thanks man, I think that I did. Gonna get an SSD and 4 more GB of RAM for it.

I haven't seen any X220s for that cheap to be honest, which is why I pulled the trigger when I saw it.

Got made fun of in lecture today because of my "dinosaur" laptop. FUCK NORMIES!

>>58606231
Where is the microphone placement in the x201

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Picked myself up a Thinkpad Yoga 14 Pro a few days ago. Enjoying it quite a bit so far.

>>58627169
Under screen, to the left of led indicators

I just got two thinkpads, a T440p and a T541 and BOTH have problems with the webcam. On one, everything is tinted pink. With the other, everything is tinted yellow. This was with Fedora installed, and thinking maybe it was just Linux, I installed Windows 10 and lo and behold, the camera problems persisted. What the hell is going on?

>>58626561
you're probably anemic or overestimating the weight of these things, I carry a W530 and it's 170W AC adapter around with me all day for >=7 hours with absolutely no issue

>>58627543
I have to carry things besides my laptop, and have had a bad time in general with my back.

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WTB: thinkpad x60 with sxga+ display, no melted glue behind screen like they tend to do

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T420 fag here upgraded to 8gb ram 240 GB ssd and Linux mint 18.1

>>58621674
it's an E series...you bought trash

>>58627730
E series models aren't too terrible if you're buying new - they're about as good any any low-mid range laptop in most regards, but with a better keyboard, better cooling and a fair bit of the customisabilty of the better models. The downsides are just durabilty (still not as bad as some cheap trash out there) and size. If you're not moving it around too much it'll be as good as anything else you can get, otherwise there's little reason to go with one.

That's going off of my experience with my E530 though, no idea what more recent edge models are like.

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Think this legit or am I about to be Moldovan'd?

>>58627272
ty

>>58628106
Could be a scam where they hope you don't open a dispute before the window expires and it never comes. Honestly as long as you don't forget about it, the worst that could happen is that you waste time sorting it out when you don't receive it, and you're out of pocket till paypal refunds.

>>58627016

Agree. I'd much prefer matte, but the difference in contrast ratio and viewing angle is night and day. I feel like it gets way brighter too.

Well /g/, i did it. I fell for the memes (in the good sense of the term)

I bought an X230 for $300 CAD
>8gb memory
>128SSD
>i5 3320M CPU 2.6 Ghz
>Win 7 x64 pro edition
>TN screen 1366x768 res
>Docking station included (with a dvd drive built in)

I'll tell you the what i like about it
>Snappy as fuck. The machine itself is super fast and responsive
>Aesthetic
>Keyboard is nice (I realize it's no x220 keyboard, but it's still an improvement from my previous chicklet styled keyboard)
>Screen brightness is superb
>Sturdy and solid, especially the frame (including the hinges [which was a big problem for me on my previous laptop])
>Machine stays cool and doesn't over heat

Now I'll tell you what I don't like. And keep in mind, some of these things might be a bit trivial and unimportant in the grand scheme of things... But you know how humans nature is- we focus on the negatives. Some of the things might even just revolve around getting used to it- but nevertheless, I wish it weren't so.
>Slightly noisy fan when compared to my old ultrabook
>The Fn and Ctrl keys got switched on the left side and that's driving me fucking bonkers
>Track-pad is sub-par, and I can't figure out how to scroll with it for the life of me (no two-finger scroll/side scroll)
>Speakers aren't all that loud
>128 SSD is in fact far less than that (even without bloatware) at 78gb free space only. (Obviously this will fluctuate for everyone, but I was a bit disappointed at this)
>9 Cell battery is ambiguously less than 5 hours on balance mode. It also feels like it's flimsily attached to the machine
>There is no backlit keyboard on my machine for some reason. Maybe there is but I'm too stupid to access it.

Over all, the negatives don't come close to impacting the over-all experience of this machine; and therefore I would highly recommend the X230

>>58628838
The BIOS menu should have an option to swap functionality of the Fn and Ctrl keys.

>>58623680
how much did you actually adjust?

>>58628838
>The Fn and Ctrl keys got switched on the left side and that's driving me fucking bonkers
Thinkpads set the standard and simply didn't waver when everyone else changed it around. You should be able to switch the functions in BIOS, although the keycaps obviously won't be accurate.

>Track-pad is sub-par, and I can't figure out how to scroll with it for the life of me (no two-finger scroll/side scroll)
Disable it in BIOS and learn you some clitmouse. It's one of the best features of these machines.

>9 Cell battery is ambiguously less than 5 hours on balance mode. It also feels like it's flimsily attached to the machine
Used machines rarely have good batteries. If you were to replace it with a fresh genuine 9cell, you'd likely get double the time you have now.

>There is no backlit keyboard on my machine for some reason. Maybe there is but I'm too stupid to access it.
Not all --30s had backlit keyboards. Fn-Space is the key combination that would cycle between nothing, the backlight, and Thinklight. If you don't have it, Fn+Space will just toggle the Thinklight on and off.

I'll check that out for sure, thanks for the tip

>>58628899
meant for
>>58628853


>>58628890
I'll have to play around with the clitmouse as you said. And I have a feeling you're right about the battery.

Shame about the back-lit keyboard tho. Can't have it all I guess

>>58628927
>Shame about the back-lit keyboard tho. Can't have it all I guess
You can just buy one and replace it.

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Hello /g/ I would like to share my frankenpad with you guys. I love this laptop it is my favorite computer in the whole wide world. I took a t61 mobo and slap it on a minty t60 body.

Specs: core 2 extreme x900, 8gb ddr2, wireless ac, 250gb ssd, 1400x1050 screen and middleton bios

>>58629190
>X9000
Absolute madman, why? It's like 7 times the price of a T9300 for a 300MHz increase.

>>58629201
I am a mad man

>>58629216
What did you get for a wireless card? I've been meaning to replace mine since it's still the shitty stock T61 card that only does 802.11g.

>>58628890
Boot into BIOS and check the settings lights. There's an option to only enable the thinklight, that might be enabled.

>>58629231
using an intel 7260, just remember to get a Half to Full Height Mini PCI adapter for it.

>>58629254
>>58628838
>>58628890
Woops check *light settings* and replied to the wrong post kek

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mfw just dropped $1,000 on upgrades for my x230

best thinkpad under 400 ?

>>58629271

Holy fuck

>>58622436
malcolm

Should I pull the trigger on a p50, or hold out for the p51?

>>58629271
>ssd is 949usd

>tfw no quad-core thinkpad

>>58630513
battery life of 2720 qm 9 cell bat t420 is 3-4 hour

>>58629271
better have an ips screen

>>58630493

2TB ssd

>>58630568
indeed

>>58629271
>not mSATA
>not 1866MHz memory

If you're going to drop that kind of money on an X230 why not go all the way?

Empty 2,5" slot is quite nice when you need to recover data from someone's broken laptop. If you unlock memory clocks with custom BIOS you get better iGPU performance.

new thread >>58630926

>>58626849
Is it hard to swap the keyboard?