/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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any input is appreciated

>>58569461
>Buying Windows
Why?

>>58569469
>>58569461
>paying more than 30 dollars for windows at that

>>58569469
Show me how to get a free copy of windows 10

>>58569504
https://www.google.com
You're welcome

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Approaching completion, would like input.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ky4CgL

>>58569504
that wasnt me
>>58569469
>>58569503
It's just more convenient for me.
I tried linux and I'm too much of a dumbass to use it to it's full capacity and Windows just looks a lot nicer to me.
macintosh is shit too.

>tfw memed myself by buying the 1060 3gb version
Besides that I think I'm good for a while. The gpu is on my list to upgrade next, this was a budget build around $600 (with a I5 6400, H110m-a motherboard, a single stick of 8gb ram, the 1tb wd blue, and the current gpu.)

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>>58569576
Forgot pic

>>58569574
Just pirate it like everyone else. My copy even re activated itself when I switched motherboards.

>>58569605
too much effort really.
i have the money to buy it so I might as well.
I was just looking for input on the parts really.

>>58569620
>too much effort really.
god damn nigga i was gonna link a place to buy cheap ass keys but fuck you

>>58569620
>yfw it's just as easy as installing it normally if not easier

>>58569636
Can you help me out? I would love a cheap key

>>58569818
Trying Daz / Das Loader is okay, remember for every patch BotNet10 releases, you should wait for the newest version.

>>58569941
>>58569941
>Daz / Das Loader
Thats old use KMScorpio activator. (or better yet get a pre-activated copy)

What is with /g/'s refusal to buy windows? I make decent money and was able to justify the $130 for a copy of 64-bit windows 10 pro. It was a one time purchase for a system I will use extensively every day. For everything ranging from work, to school, to gaming. After spending almost $1600 on a PC, why not just buy a copy? You never have to worry about updates fucking your crack/Daz loader settings up.

I mean if your build is worth like $500, then yea spending almost 1/4 of your budget on Windows is a kick in the dick. But many of the systems ITT don't meet that criteria. I'm not a MS advocate by any means as I've been using a borrowed copy of Windows 7 with removeWAT since SP1 released because I was broke. Just curious.

>>58569967
hmmm Thanks for the advice as well.

ty famalam

>>58570097
No problem

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Thinking about rebuilding my PC, what should I replace?

>>58570146
>shitpc

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>>58570146
>Haslel
>1333MHz RAM
>MSI Krait
>3.5/4 would not VRAM
>Jewston SSD
>500GB HDD
>Windows 10
Everything pham

Xeon W3550
Nvidia Quadro 600
12 GB DDR3
120GB SSD + 250GB HDD
Win 10 Pro
+ accessories

worth 200 bucks? not for work, more of a facebook machine

>>58570188
:(

>>58570744
You need
>Ryzen
>2800MHz RAM
>Gigabyte or ASUS motherboard (non-gaymer UD5/Pro equivalent)
>Samsung SSD
>not Windows 10

>>58570146
Don't listen to the other anon. The 4790k is still a valid chip. I would recommend a 16GB kit of ddr3. See if you can get 2400mhz stuff. If not, just standard 1600mhz is fine. Shop around in ebay. My buddy scored a 32GB kit (4x8GB) of ddr3-2133 MHz on eBay for $80.

Maybe another SSD for game installs? Minimum 500GB. Crucial MX300 525GB is usually around $140.

If your budget allows, sell the 970, get a 1070. The 1070 is almost close to a 980TI in performance with 2GB more VRAM.

Should I buy cnps10x optima or hyper 212 evo? I know 212 run a little bit cooler but that plastic fan brackets looks extremely flimsy.

I'm from El Salvador and a friend of mine will travel to the USA between July and August to get me a few parts for my new PC, budget is near $1.4k and I came with this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pPHN2R

What my friend is going to help me get with are the motherboard and both video cards, since rx480/gtx1060 are worth around $400 here and motherboards with more than 1 PCI are worth near $200, everything else is just a couple of bucks more expensive.

I need opinions and how I can improve budget and performance wise.

Bigger SSD and a 1070 like other anon said, 4790k is better than skyshit in some things.

>>58571206
Definitely don't get crossfire 480s. CF always sucks.
Get the i5 7500 or even consider the i5 7600K, since overclocking seems to be easy on the Z270
You can't use that fast RAM at full speed unless you have a Z270

By the time July rolls around, AMD will have released more powerful cards than the 480, no need for CF. AMD will have released new CPUs as well, so you should come back and check current builds then

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Anyone in SoCal want to build my comp for me

>>58571206
You should flip a few GTX 1070s

>>58569967
Microsoft Toolkit

>>58570075
Some people are running linux; others are using a key they already own; some people don't include it because they don't want to be hazed over Win10; Win10 sucks but I have to use it on Kaby Lake so fuck M$; etc

Is it worth buying an i5 6600k for my R9 380? My shitty amd cpu can barely do 60fps in any game.

>>58571435
What's your CPU? Post speccy

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>>58570146

Why the fuck you running 333Mhz DDR? Fucking get 400MHz shit. Just double up to 16GB and call it a day.

I run a 4790K, and there is ZERO reason to upgrade right now. You will see shit tier performance gains moving up to anything else. Wait for Intel's next step at the end of the year and see what they have to offer.

I have dual GTX 970 right now. I'm holding out to see how the new AMD Vega looks. Else, maybe I'll cop a used GTX 1080 for a good price. I run a 42" LG IPS 60hz display, so upgrading my GPU is a bit more of a concern.

Might whack together a G4560 & 1,024SP RX 460 build on the cheap. Should play Civ6 and isometrishit yeah?

>>58571477
It's an AMD A7 7700k, bad cpu who struggles even with a psp emulator. I also have 8gib of ram.

>RX480 died last week
>Silverstone 650W 80+ Gold PSU died today

what the fuck is going on here.. my previous build lasted 4 years with no problems ever and all these new pieces of shit are dying left right and centre

>>58571324

Dude, it's like legos. There are a billion guides to popping the shit together.

Or are you talking about piecing together a system online to buy? Even easier. Start with your CPU, then buy a mobo with the right chipset and CPU socket, then buy some good RAM for it, GPU, an SSD and HDD, power supply, and case. DONE!

>>58571524
My guess: bad PSU killed your GPU and committed suicide afterwards.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CxM8zM

A small upgrade that ended up replacing everything but the case, mobo and hdd.

I should have just left it in the closet.

R7 240 or GT 730

for csgo and gta 5

>>58571324
I'll build your computer. Post your spec sheet.

>>58571777
Go for the R7 assuming you are using an AyyyyMD APU system

>>58571825
this but a 250 non x

my lil cousin has an a8-7600 x msi 250gddr3 and it does quite well.

>>58571757
>A small upgrade that ended up replacing everything but the case, mobo and hdd.
why`?

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>>58571871
I don't know how it got this far.

It was just going to get the i5 and a 1050ti so my anime body pillow could play too but I found the 390x for $165 and the 2k display for $50 locally and it snowballed.

I would've specced a better cpu if I had known this is where I was gonna end up. Still might sell it and switch.

Oh well it was pretty cheap and I'll have a decent second comp.

Still needs a cpu cooler. It will be getting clocked to 4ghz with a 39x multi and a 103 bclk if its stable.

>>58571871
That's how most of my "small upgrades" have gone as well.

How many sata ports do I need on PSU if I plan on having like 4 harddrives?

do the harddrives plug directly into the psu, or do they connect to some kind of splitter wire.

>>58572066
just about any psu still functioning will have 4 sata power connectors. did you even look at the specs of any PSUs?

>>58572082
it says 8 x SATA in description, so I get you connect a wire to the PSU, and it splits off to allow multiple connections?

thanks

>>58572101
the wire(s) will be hardwired to the psu unless its a modular design and have breakouts where you plug the stoarge drives in. you can also google psu sata cable.

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>>58572113
Thank you for your help mister.

>>58572125
don't forget to get sata cables for your drives if they don't come with one. psu only gives power. you still need a connection for data.

suggestions on my build? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/castexyz/saved/PpQf7P

>>58572663
That processor will not work with that board unless you are in possession of a skylake processor that can flash the bios

>>58572663
Not the best value, but it's ok.

>>58572677
Can you recommend a best value build? Thanks

>>58572691
My consulting fees are 100$ an hour. Hit me up on skype: [email protected]

>>58569461
>case with window
>illuminated fans
are you 12?

>>58572877
t. bitter poor guy

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>>58572914
>>>/v/

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>built a completely new rig last week
>today cat knocked over glass of water on my desk
>liquid cascaded down right where my tower is
>about to cry as I rush to unplug it
>investigate
>the water narrowly evaded every single possible vent and opening

>>58572963
Don't eat and drink at your computer fuckboy, also your cat, even if spayed, is going to spray its jizz into your fan

Did I make a mistake in getting i7-6800K?

Also got Noctua NH-D14 to cool it. (My case is CM HAF 932 so I'm good on space

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>>58569303
https://www.amazon.com/Pixio-PX277-2560x1440-FreeSync-Displayport/dp/B01HPDAF68

The monitor I have says it has 1.2 Display Port.

But I noticed that the card I ordered, Asus Rog Strix 1070 says it's Display Port 1.4.

So did I fuck up? The card and monitor are not compatible?

>>58574062
Looks like you dun goofed super chief. You will have to return all of your parts now.

Yeah, USB 2 isn't compatible with USB 3 either.

>>58574099
To be honest when I look at Steam and all the lists of PC games nothing even looks good anyways.

PC gaming is a meme. I'll just return my parts and not fall for this meme.

>>58574201
What gams do u like to play bucko?

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is this the video game console assembly thread?

>>58569303
why the fuck did ddr4 go up so much?
I bought 8gb 2400 dimms last summer for 24 dollars each

>>58574714
>why the fuck did ddr4 go up so much?
because people will pay for it
Step 1: sell RAM cheap
Step 2: wait for software, like games, that needs lots of cheap RAM
Step 3: increase price of RAM

>>58574729
thank god I bought more than I needed, I should probably sell this used for more than I bought it for, got 2 8gb sairs collecting dust and a 4gb chink nobrand doing the same

>>58574729
>>58574714
>he fell for the 8gb meme

This is why I bought 32gb. I may only use regularly around 50% of that, but if I have it, I have it, when I need it. and I don't have to jump through paygate hoops to get it.

>>58574790
I had all 4 of them in. Currently 16 (8x2) because I took the other two out with the intention of making another rig to sell, but haven't been bothered to yet

>>58574729
no you useless waste of air, it's because of a factory fire

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>>58574960

>>58572663
Waste of money

>>58571941
Why the fuck would you buy a 300W card in 2017?

>>58571777
Not good for GTAV

>>58571524
RMA.. Only thing that sucks is the downtime

>>58571507
Yes but get the 1050. If you like strategy / sim games the CPU is weak

>>58571487
Intel isn't coming out with anything good until 2019, when the totally reboot their arch

>>58571519
Yeah, you should upgrade, but not right now. Wait two months and then ask here for a CPU recommendation

>>58575726
Why not?

Higher wattage usually means better performance

>>58575760
It's a space heater. RX480 is 80% of the perf of 390x for 150W, along with being a newer arch.

GTX1070 is +50% perf compared to the 390x for 150W

Convince me to replace all the Bay Trail/Cherry Trail Pentium plus two Jaguar A4-5000 thin clients and a Xeon E5-1650 v3 VM+RDS server in my home with actual desktops.

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>tfw waitfag

>>58575981
But if amd made a card with the same power draw as the 390x on their new arch it would completely wipe the floor with rx 480...

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Is it worth adventuring on overclocking Xeon processor with this motherboard?

>>58576160
Most BS description I've ever read.

>>58576051
Yes, and? How is a hypothetical card a justification for buying a rebranded space heater?

>>58576160
It's a bit wasted if you're not going to take advantage of ECC RAM and are going with and Xeon E3 v5s that are higher than $300 or have HD P350s.

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>>58576036
>tfw not released yet
>tfw not released tomorrow

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Graphics card is dying, and I'm trying to think my options here. I use my PC for gayming, but I don't have a lot of money so I'm thinking of getting 1060. Would I need to update my CPU and RAM too if I did that? Where the hell am I going to get any money for that.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z2btr7
How does this look?

>>58576391
>Would I need to update my CPU and RAM too if I did that?
No. GTX1060, RX480 or even RX470 are all fine.

>>58576743
Alright that's good to hear. Thanks anon.

>>58576582
Generally good, but take a look a this, switched out a few parts without sacrificing performance.
Imho you should try to save up a little and either get a 6500/7500 or wait for the 4C8T Zen.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zCb8zM

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Ive started grabbing new parts for a new PC. I already have Case and Power Supply (Might upgrade either or both if a better alternative is suggested). Also gonna replace the fans in my case so suggestions for replacements are welcome.

Here's what I've got so far.

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>>58575726
>Why the fuck would you buy a 300W card in 2017?

It was $165 in the box. I live in Alaska,the heat output is a nice bonus, nice and toasty

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swhgqk
Any suggestions? This is a combo work & play pc. Work usually has AutoCAD, Photoshop, and miscellaneous office programs up and running at once. Most work is architectural 2D related, but needs to handle occasional 3D. Gaming is limited, but I want to handle modern games like Civ at full performance. Budget as shown is about as high as I'd like to go.

>>58577072
Why not an EVGA X99 classified mobo and save $150.

>>58577252
get a real workstation with a xeon and a pro card.

>>58577433
A xeon will cry at the beating civ 6 will give it
I'd say an X99 core series CPU, like 6800k
A cheap quadro or a higher end GTX like a 1080, the GTX line has great OpenGL power despite not being quadros, AMDs newer FirePro cards I'm sure will be sufficient too
I mean small scale 2D rendering won't take any resources really, and *small scale* 3D doesn't ask for a lot either, your GPU shouldn't be the biggest baddest skyscraper-rendering powerhouse if you're just designing small hypothetical structures

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRFGVY
Can I go cheaper? Any overkills? I want to do 1440p gaming in very high fps

>>58577557
+ with graphic settings at least medium

>>58577557
Those fans come in tupac versions

>>58577493
Thanks for the input. Been going back and forth with the X-99. Most of my work is small and medium commercial buildings - 5 stories and under - so you're right, I don't need massive rendering capabilities.

>>58577372
Partially because my last two Asus motherboards have treated me well. I'll have to look at what EVGA has on offer though. This one looked pretty nice though and money wasn't too much of an issue

I'm an absolute retard when it comes to building a PC, I'm as fucking casual; normalfag you could be. I built a PC maybe 11yrs ago but I made a lot of poor mistakes, the biggest one being the Tower and the Motherboard.

Is there any strongly recommended towers that are easy to access when building/putting in parts and also cheap? I dont care for bells and whistles or fucking lights and all that stupid shit.

>>58576391
CPU is fine

>>58576582
Drop cooler
Consider G4560 + B250 + 2400MHz RAM

>>58577252
Consider i7 7700K + Z270

>>58577557
Get 3000MHz RAM
Consider i5 7600 + Z270. One click 5GHz OC on air

>>58577923
Thanks

>>58577923
>Consider i5 7600 + Z270
Meant i5 7600K

>>58577952
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hn9GVY
I assumed you did, updated list
changed the vid card to something cheaper, I think it wouldn't make a huge difference since it's the same chipset right?
or am i horribly stupidly wrong

>>58569620
>I'm building a PC but spending 5 minutes to save $30 on a shit OS is too much effort
>I'm literally too retarded to pirate windows
>>>/reddit/

>>58569967
I used KMSpico
worked pretty well
never heard of scorpio

>>58578076
I just leave it unactivated and live with not being able to change my taskbar color

>>58570075
>$130
>ONE HUNDRES THIRTY DOLLARS
>for an operating system
>you are okay with this
what the fuck
pls go

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>>58569636
plz do anon, my build is almost done and I forgot about OS.

>>58571430
googling this

>>58578105
and the "activate windows" script on the screen 24/7

How do you guys figure out what's a good CPU? I'm looking at pcpicker and I understand ones that require certain watts but then there are things that have i7 Core - (anywhere between) 4400-7700k or something, while other CPUs just have random edgy names attached to them.

>>58578147
It goes away when I fullscreen most games, and 1/10 times it's not even there. At 1440p with no scaling it's unnoticeable, and with scaling it's a mild inconvenience at best
But it's the easiest way to get Windows, didn't even have to torrent it, Microsoft website even formatted the USB bootable to save it

Should I get a 1060 or RX 480 for 1080p 144hz? I mostly play esports if that helps.

>>58578160
>How do you guys figure out what's a good CPU?
You just do a little bit of reading, that's literally it.

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I am interested in building a workstation for SolidWorks applications.

I had been researching on workstation GPU and I am slightly convinced in purchasing one.

How beneficial are Xeon and ECC for CAD software?

Note: I already have another computer for gaming and personal use.

>>58578242
480.

Would an RX 480 be a big upgrade from an HD 6950?

>>58578265
>How beneficial are Xeon and ECC for CAD software?
How important is the work you're doing?

Can I get some help? My PSU is apparently surging, but It's new and platnium rated. Is there anyway I can check before I just return it?

http://m.imgur.com/a/9Rzd1

>>58578402
Precision probably not too important

>>58578513
Not precision, how much do you value your work for it not to get corrupted at all? If "very", then buy ECC RAM, if "not very" then don't.

>>58571430
>but I have to use it on Kaby Lake so fuck M$; etc

This is false.

>>58578555
Okay thanks

so i got a gpu after using the intergated one for a little while and now the monitor won't detect the pc if the card is conneceted to the psu

pls help

>>58578656
>if the card is conneceted to the psu
You have to insert the card into your computers PCIe slot matey. :^)

>>58578782
it is, but it's not connected to the psu that way the monitor can detect the igpu

>>58577980
Looks fine, not sure which manufacturers have the one click OC, but they all have "Enhanced Trubo" which will get you the max single core turbo on all cores simultaneously (probably a good idea to do that until you want a heftier OC)

>>58578160
Good god, it's retarded. B E N C H M A R K S

>>58578242
Either but you'll have better luck with really high framerates with a Nvidia card

>>58578656
Not really sure wtf you mean, but plug your monitor into the graphics card, not the motherboard.

Retard

How much do I have to overclock my 5960X in order for my 4 virtual CPU cored VM to match a stock 4790K?

Msi PC MATE mobo
i-5 6600k skylake
evga sc 1070
16gb g.skill rip jaws 2400
gold evga 650 psu
120g samsung evo ssd
1 tb wd blue 7200 hdd
cooler master evo cpu heatsink/fan
2 additional 120mm coolermaster fans
fractal R5 case

I've been slowly upgrading my old pos with new parts, at this point my bottle neck is probably my old ass mother board with an 1150 socket, while the cpu i have is the best recommendation for my board, I was thinking about upgrading to something more future build appropriate and getting something overall better.
Tl;dr what's the current recommendation on mid range gaming mother board and cpus?

>>58579081
>Not really sure wtf you mean, but plug your monitor into the graphics card, not the motherboard.

that's what i did

>>58578656
So you properly inserted the card into the PCIe slot, properly connected the power cable to it and properly connected the monitor to the GPU, not the iGPU?
What PSU do you have, could be that it doesn't supply enough power.

What's good RAM that's moderately/fairly priced and reliable?

>>58579213
Corsair Dominator, everything else is trash.

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Is there anyone more trash than USPS at actually getting shit delivered on time?

Packages showing up as delivered when nobody came to the door. My favorite.

>>58579206
yea i did all that

it's rm850 so i don't think thats a problem

>>58579333
Mine does that too we don't even has an assigned mail person on our route our old was was awesome, but he retired. UPS always delivers my shit to either neighbor or vise versa .

>>58579333
That title can go to UPS and OnTrac.

>>58579377
Never heard of OnTrac, but ya UPS is the worst here too.

>>58579363
>yea i did all that
Double check / reseat it. There was some anon few days ago who had a similar problem and he didn't connect the 24pin firmly enough.

>>58579333
>>58579377
>>58579403
tfw live in richfag town so everything is higher quality, including the goddamn mail

shit you not, shit arrives a day sooner here every time.

Building a new pc. I'm new to it.
Got system running and to BIOS, but had to reconnect a cord to get the chassis fan working.

When I went back, I now get no video output, can't get to BIOS, and MOBO BOOT_DEVICE_LED stays red. CPU, VGA, and DIMM lights blink and clear.

CPU i5-6600k
Motherboard ASUS z170-E
RAM Crucial Ballistix 8GB x 1 DDR4 2400
GPU Rx 480 8GB
PSU EVGA Nex 750w

>>58579553
What hard drive are you not using

Should I go full retard and replace all my fans with with Noctua fans?

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>>58579608
I'm adding an old toshiba 2.5" drive as a placeholder until I order a SSD

But I managed to get into BIOS without a HDD attached so I'm not sure if something unplugged while fiddling with it or if I need to yank out my GPU to reset the MOBO's battery

>>58579333
trips confirm usps a shit

ruralfag here, my mailbox is over 1/4 mile away and I hate it when it says delivered and I decide to walk to the mailbox to find nothing. or find a slip and available pickup is a day or two out. raaaaargh

>>58579213
this
>>58579238
but only if it is quad channel and has the fans.
anything else immediately says I'm poor and I settled to all that see it.

>>58579152
Consider i5 7600K + Z270. One click 5GHz OC on air
3000MHz RAM
240GB SSD

>>58579175
i5 7500 + Z270 + 3000MHz RAM. Enable XMP in BIOS

>>58579177
What is your monitor's resolution?

>>58579213
The cheapest at the speed you want

>>58579553
Try the mobo video out

>>58579968
>Try the mobo video out
I was, I wasn't using the GPU HDMI.
I took the GPU out and reset the MOBO with the battery, and it looks like it helped? Have yet to put the GPU back in so no idea if it'll work with that inside.

Still confused as to why I was getting no video before though, since I'm booting to BIOS now without a HDD plugged in.

>>58580235
If the gfx crad is plugged in, you have to use the card's out. For trouble shooting disconnect the card and use mobo out

>tfw craving a 1070 to replace R9290
>tfw know as soon as i buy one price will drop
can vega compete?

>>58579968
check 24pin mobo connector? and CPU power

>>58580288
Yeah, I just did that and it worked fine. Funny thing is it was working with the GPU in a few times before. Does the GPU not need drivers installed before it starts defaulting to be the primary video?

>>58580289
With the 1070 or 1080, yes. My guess is that the only way AMD can compete with the 1080Ti is a dual GPU card

>>58580289
Price might drop when the 1080 ti releases.

>>58580313
so it will be another loud hot monstrosity for $1000

>>58580322
how much you think? $50?

Thoughts and advice on my build please?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/b7K4JV

>>58580413
mabye smaller HDD and bigger SSD?
i assume 1080p gaming the kaby lake might be a bit much desu

kaby lake is barely better than skylake but if they cost similarly then its fine i guess
mabye if a i5 6700 is cheaper you can get a better GPU?

I haven't built a new PC in about 7 years.

Do I have to spend a few months lurking here to know what the best meme builds are or will you fuckers just tell me what to get?

I'll spend $1500. I'm not a gaymer (only Dota 2). I care more about processing power and good storage.

>>58580491
>i assume 1080p gaming the kaby lake might be a bit much desu

I'm planning video editing too. As far as I can tell the prices aren't a great deal different.

Probably a good call on the HDD/SSD, thanks.

>>58580539
All you need is the G4560 + B250 or H210 mobo, mini-ITX case. No reason to spend 1500 to browse the web

>>58580558
so wouldnt a i7 6000 series be better?

>>58580666
I'm looking for something that can handle multiple VM instances. Which CPU should I invest in? Does RAM speed actually make a difference?

>>58580766
>VMs
Anything about a Pentium.
The question is, how many are you running at once?

>>58581098
I'm going to get an i7 7700k.

>>58581133
I wouldn't. For one, the 7700K doesn't support ECC RAM, which is more critical than you'd think for production VMs. Two, you also don't need the iGPU on the 7700K since the virtualization software takes care of that for you (plus, you'd be much better off running a discreet GPU in a PCIe pass-through). Three, Xeon E3s and E5s have lower TDP and overall power consumption than their i7 counterparts, which adds up over the years. Four, C232/236 motherboards (if you're going the LGA1151 route) features much better support for virtualization features as well as remote management for hardware if you're running a headless VM server. Five, those motherboards often last far longer under high temperatures for extended periods of time over consumer chipsets and boards since they're tested far more thoroughly for performance consistency and durability. Same goes for the Xeon E3/E5 CPUs themselves.
Six, you can overclock a $280 E3-1230 v5 to the same clock frequency as a 7700K stock with an ASRock C232 motherboard that has an external clock generator (it's this board >>58576160)

>>58581223
This isn't a production build. It's my home PC I use for a bit of gaming and heavy virtualization for educational purposes.

>>58581291
Oh, in that case, i7-7700K all the way.
Meanwhile, my patient ass will wait for Ryzen for the extra cores without paying out the shithole for them.

>>58581307
I hope that Ryzen lives up to the hype. I might blow my tax refund on it lol

>>58581307
Meh I won't get my hopes up.

>>58581487
I don't care about Ryzen's per-core and multi-threaded performance. It's their RAM encryption for virtualized environments I'm more interested in, and it's a guaranteed feature in Zen.

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>>58569303
how's this for a budget build? look ok? anything better priced I could replace these parts with?

What's the standard for monitors nowadays? I'm thinking about getting 2 or 3 monitors. What's the best way to do this?

I feel confident in picking parts and assembling the computer, but I don't know how to shop properly. When are the best deals and where do I find them?

>>58582917
Use pcpartpicker, it will tell you where the best deal is at, make sure to select the right country, however you may want to manually check because i've noticed errors. Personally i just bought everything from newegg and went with what was cheaper/on sale for shit like RAM, MB, graphics card, etc.

Some of the parts where 5$ to 10$ on other site but it wasn't worth the headache for me of creating more accounts, plus with the shipping cost from all the different sites i don't think i would have saved that much more.

>>58582774
Don't even bother getting a ultra-low end GPU.
>>58582917
The best deals always come after you've bought all your parts.

>>58583040
Recommendations for a replacement then?

>>58583061
CPU integrated graphics.

>>58570788
>ryzencucks

haswell is based

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>>58582774
I'd tell you to save your money until you can get something better but if you insist, i'm sure you could get away with using a 300w PSU. Also, could you give me a link to that ram?

Do you already have an HDD/SSD?

>>58583104
Yeah, scrapped it out of an older computer

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Left or right?

one sacrifices CPU overclock for a good GPU, one has a solid CPU for a bit of GPU performance

>>58583300
>$200 mobo

>>58583326

well, i liked the white board

but really, i'd rather have kabylake and a z270 and cash in that extra $60

>>58583619
>buying kaby lake for <%10 performance increase
>$150 for a mini mobo
>memerig CPU coler
>not noctua

>>58583619
Why spend extra on a z170 mobo if your not getting a intel k? Also you may need to update the mobo for kaby CPU.

My SATA cables don't have 7 pins, what do I do to install a 2.5" drive

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>tfw getting better temps in a Node 304 than with a Define R5 with the same overclock

>>58583300
Right side, but get 3000MHz RAM

>>58583619
Need a Z270 unless you have a skylake CPU already such that you can flash the BIOS
Get the 7500 or the 7600K

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Four of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXrrtJ

or four of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQW33F
And one of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B8NP9W
As a Oracle VDI server?

>>58583996
I don't think either option will get you over 60fps in that game, not at 1080p at least.

>>58583921
3000mhz ram being any "faster" than 2000mhz ram

>>58584012
>gaming
No nigger
I've got a i7-7700K/Z270 getting built right now. This is for everyone else in the house.

>>58569461
>paying for an OS
>unironically getting windows 10
>not pirating windows
>8GB DDR4
>shittiest low end AMD GPU
>only an i5

Other than that everything looks fine.

What is a good cheap mid tower case? I'm not sure what is the best value here

>tfw the antec 900 is still being sold
>not even updated for 2017

>>58584014

But it is.

>>58584082
>>shittiest low end AMD GPU
That's the best mid range currently available

>>58584084
Not really cheap but i'm a pretty big fan of cooler master cases, especially the toolless ones

>>58584156
Nvidia or bust.

1060 6gb GDDR5 is perfect.

>>58584192
>more money for lower performance

Any tips to improve this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/EliteKnightRamza/saved/Nfn8dC

Major areas of concern are the motherboard and case chosen. Also, anyone have experience with the EVGA SC card? I originally went with the MSI Gaming X but then realized the SC was 61$ cheaper and didn't see the point in paying that much more for the MSI card.

>>58584284
>getting an AMD product

Dont do that. Seriously.

>1050
Not gonna experience maxed out graphics at 60 FPS 1080p
>1060 3gb GDDR5
Its fine but anything of 2017 wont probably be as good as the 6 gb GDDR6 version
>1070
Useless unless maxing out at 60 FPS on 2k monitor
>1080
Do you have 144hz or 4k? no? then dont.
>Titan X (pascal)
Read above.

Seriously tho, dont trust AMD. I did and i got fucked with no lube

>>58584309
Why are you concerned about the case? The R5 is still a top-tier.

>>58584359

Because I do not know how to spot a good case and just picked something that had a lot of stars. How's the airflow? It doesn't have an air filter on the top so I feel like dust will get in.

>>58584309
Damn son, you are gonna rip ass with that build and also some cash.

>no watercooling
Fix that.
>about case
no idea
>about MOBO
No experience with EVGA, sorry.

>PSU
Its gold, and that's good. But 650 watts its not enough for that system. Try changing the shit for watercooled stuff and get a 750 or + watts.

Remember, no 144hz/no 4k monitor? dont waste in a 1080.

>>58584367
Airflow's fine, the top has cover panels and it doesn't need to be open.

>>58584370
Water cooling is a meme.

>>58584370

Why would I get watercooling when the Noctua cooler outperforms watercoolers and is quieter? The only downside is that it's huge and takes up way more space than a watercooler but the case has the space for it.

Also 650 watts is enough for a 1080 what are you smoking man. Did I just get baited?

>>58569504
are you fucking retarded?

>>58584387
If you need some hardcore cooling, its not.

>>58584391
>outperforms watercoolers
Sauce?

>Also 650 watts is enough for a 1080 what are you smoking man. Did I just get baited?
For that GPU and that CPU and overclocking? it might not be enough. Remember, your maximum power your computer should take must be between 40 to 60% the max power of the PSU.

>>58570578
more than capable of being a faecbook machine, you're fine anon

>>58584410

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

>For that GPU and that CPU and overclocking? it might not be enough. Remember, your maximum power your computer should take must be between 40 to 60% the max power of the PSU.

I have never heard of this. 550 watts is what is recommended for the 1080 though and I went up 100 more. Shouldn't that be enough?

>>58584439
>http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

BTW the two water coolers that had cooler temps than the noctua are not only more expensive but way louder. Noctua has that performance while being very quiet.

>>58584439
Depends. I want to go full safe. Then again, i have a 80-bronze with a 750 watt limit instead. Dont know how the quality of the PSU and the watt limit change individually the lifespan of the components.

>BTW the two water coolers that had cooler temps than the noctua are not only more expensive but way louder

Honestly i dont give a shit about noise.

Well, looks like that shit is fine, but its not a definitive cooler. Its 2 god damn radiators with 3 fans covering it up. No shit its gonna have better cooling than single radiators mono/twin fan water coolers.

What about the GPU. Is it the 1080 that comes with a watercooler or not? i would never trust stock air cooler in GPUs.

>>58574201
>steam

theres your problem right there

>bought a i5 6500 2 weeks ago
>just realized the 7500 is the same price

FUCK

>>58584351
werks 4 me :^)

Does this look like a good PC? Just want reasonable graphics at 1080p60fps, budget is about 620.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9H68zM

Anything I could improve?

>>58584586
save some money and ditch the 212. Stick to the stock cooler if you aint gonna do OC'ing.

After all, your CPU is locked and your MOBO wont allow easy OCing.

>muh sound

Fuck sound. You wanna save money, right?

>>58584623
Same guy, while I'm not going to buy the 212 because I will most likely not max out anything or get close, is there anything else I should upgrade to bring the price to 620?

>>58584673
Dont cheap out on PSU. But that PSU its fine. Do you really want the price to be EXACTLY 620? Maybe get a slightly better PSU or more RAM.

so im looking to upgrade my r9 280x
will a gtx 1070 be able to run 2k/144 for like 4 or 5 years or only 2k/60
or should i stick with a 480/1060 and go for 1o80p/144hz ?

also how do i look up wether a graphics card is compatible with my current main board ?

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Ausfag, I've been out of the PC building game since 2013. Haven't really followed who's who in the parts business so any advice is welcome. I've picked nvidia/intel because I fell for the AMD meme 4 years ago, never again.

Budget is kinda all over the shop. Im saving with my new job so I dont mind waiting for a few months before I can afford it. Using this PC for playing WoT and maybe other games like Witcher 3 and whatnot. I also live stream and edit videos for youtube on the side so I'd like to be able to do all that with relative ease on the PC.

cheers

Should i get a 7500 or a 7600 for playing at 1080p/60fps ?

>>58584903
Unless you absolutely need the slight performance boost of the i7 over the i5 (tip: you probably don't), go with the i5.

Go with the newer Z270 chipset as well.

Avoid Western Digital and go with Hitachi instead. WD's drive failure rate after 3 years is ridiculous.

>GAMING monitor
>any logitech mouse that isn't the G400/G400s

>>58585746
I was under the assumption an I7 would help with rendering video and whatnot?

Monitor suggestions are welcome, this is mostly recommendations from a friend of mine.

I own a G400s already, I love it but I cant but it in Australia as far as Im aware. The G403 is there as a placeholder more than anything, I wont be switching until the my g400s fails

I'm very lost, I'm going to buy an RX480 8gb but can't decide on which one, could you guys help me decide
ASUS STRIX-RX480-O8G-GAMING : 3 fans, longer but my case can fit it
MSI RX 480 GAMING X 8G : 10 euro cheaper
Sapphire 11260-20-20G : 50/40 euro cheaper, but only 2 year warranty over 3 on the other 2, seems the most basic of them all
I'm planning on keeping this card for a fairly long time, please help me choose if any of these cards have some known defects or high noise or whatever

When i'm first setting up the PC and assembling it, can I just buy windows online and burn that to a CD and get it on there that way or do I need to buy a physical disk for it for the first install?

>>58586803
You can use any windows disk to install windows and just activate it with your key

>>58586730
For AMD cards you have to choose between Sapphire, XFX, MSI and Asus. All have their pros and cons.
>Sapphire
Good PCB, bad cooling, decent noise, warranty and support, best stock clock, decent price.
>XFX
Good PCB, decent cooling, decent noise, warranty/support, good price but cancerous XFX marketing.
>MSI
Mediocore PCB, best cooling & noise, MSI meme warranty/support, price is mediocore.
>Asus
Best PCB, decent cooling & noise, decent warranyt but shit customer support and also expensive.

>>58586808
but if I don't have a disc, will I get a download when I purchase one digitally/online that I can burn to a disc to use?

>>58586810
I'm swaying off Sapphire because of 2 year warranty and from what graphs I've seen, it seems to run the hottest, but also it's really a lot cheaper than the other 2 cards
How big of a difference does PCB have ? MSI seems best for the "best cooling & noise" but you said mediocre PCB
I guess the question I want answered is ASUS or MSI, since their cost differs only in 10 euros
ASUS has 3 fans, but if they're smaller than the 2 on MSI, they would run louder, if I understand correctly

The lower right screw on the motherboard standoff for my microatx motherboard won't go in, and I made sure I had the right screw. I already put together the computer, (posted here like three days ago about this) and it seems fine, but is it really good without that screw? A couple of the other screws became kinda loose in the standoffs too, but I figure that the graphics card being screwed into the case provides enough force along with the other screws to keep the motherboard in place.

>>58586861
For a normal user virtually none. This is only relevant if you want to OC, do note that the MSI does not have dual BIOS.
Onlly cards to really avoid are Gigabyte and PowerColor.
If cool & quiet is your main concern then MSI is what you want. Asus also has some interesting cooling issues, nothing alarming, though.

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What is the best laptop in terms of specs/build quality ratio?
Price is on the second place.
I was thinking of something like Fujitsu Livebook, but the specs seem to be a bit off, also not avaialbe in my country.

Pls, no thinkpad-macbook meme.

I built this computer around 4 years ago and its starting to slack a bit as far as gaming goes. Does anyone know the best way I can upgrade this? Or should I just scrap the whole build and make a whole new setup?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3cja6

>>58587319
So MSI should be cooler and quieter than ASUS even though ASUS comes with 3 fans ? and what is dual BIOS used for ? Don't plan to OC if that matters

>>58587851
MSI is fine, both Asus and MSI are, basically your choice.
Asus also hase some nice features like additional PWM connectors for case fans, it's a meme but ok.

>>58588354
not him, but how would the xfx one be worse ?

also, regarding 1060 vs 480 what is better ?

>>58588354
Yeah I've seen those, but the fans that came with case are 3pin so I won't have use for the connectors on the GPU, it's a tough choice, but I think I'll go with MSI, since it's a bit cheaper and seems that the fans are top notch on it
>>58588379
Didn't talk about XFX at all, since they don't stock here, but I've also heard it's a solid choice
Also, not sure, but I think with the recent updates 480 got maybe a bit better than 1060, also proper dx12 and vulkan support, so 480 is a safer choice if you don't change GPUs every month

>>58588410
well its a tough choice
either the xfx 480 or the kfa2 1070 but i cant seem to find any information on it and im careful because it is so cheap in comparison to other 1070s

>>58588379
>how would the xfx one be worse ?
Worse cooling and louder, but better PCB and cheaper.

>>58588760
how important is pcb for a graphics card ?

>>58588874
If you want to OC, otherwise most are fine, but avoid Gigabyte and PowerColor, they cheap out on their components.

I have a i7 920 with 12GB RAM and a 7850 2GB as a gaymen PC.

Should I upgrade the vidyacard now, or the whole system in couple months?

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I want a new GPU for Doom 2016 to run better.

>>58589024
If just for DOOM, can't go wrong with 480

>>58589124
Yeah, I figure I should wait for the next wave of GPUs and then get a mid range card

>>58589024
RX480, RX470 or GTX1060.

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How is this for a SFF build, will be gaming on it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wr4sjc

Any way I can make this cheaper with relatively the same performance?

>>58589238
Get a SSD you savage

>>58589238
>buying a 2.5" hard drive
Enjoy your boot and load times

>>58589238
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HxXyQV

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Everything is crazy expensive in this shithole (brazil). What cpu will last longer, this FX or the Intel 6100 ?

>>58589493
>8gb = 100$

kek

>>58589493
>what cpu will last longer, this FX or the Intel 6100 ?

It depends really, if everything goes perfect and DX12 and Vulkan take over (and developers actually use it correctly) Then the FX.

Otherwise, 6100 isnt that bad either, but it doesnt hurt to go for the 7100. Hell, even the kaby lake pentium G4620 could work.

>>58589493
>comes with a PSU
>aerocool
It's like you want to set your house on fire.

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>>58589566

>>58589585
I can get a cx430, but i will have to build this on a cardboard box.

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I've got one of these on the way, but I bought it when I was drunk.

Would this be better to control my fans, or would the motherboard be preferred?

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>>58589754

it would be going in this. but the motherboard is more than capable of handling fan control, and the blue would clash with the green/black pattern i'm looking for.

but this year is my 28th birthday, so this would be a present to myself. basically just top-of-the-line everything and room to grow.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bvH2BP

6GB 1060

or

8GB 480

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wYyKkT

Please ignore the case, I'm mainly getting it for ease of carrying around every weekend.

Prices are Australian, and I don't wanna spend over $500 on any parts.

I'll mainly be gaming in 1920x1080 with a 144hz monitor. I don't overclock at all, and I honestly will take performance over graphics any day.

I'll focus on ""futureproofing"" when I get a better job in a few years.

>>58589722
>Corsair CX
It's like swapping out gasoline for kerosin m8.

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ff3cyf

Started looking at parts a month ago and I didn't know what I was doing. After ~20 different drafts I landed on this.

CPU: Precessor was originally 6100 but then kaby "half price i3" lake was released
MOBO: B150 -> B250
GPU: Have always played games on the work oriented family computer then later on work oriented laptops. So this card will be a massive upgrade towards gaming from my laptop that runs Borderlands 1 at 800x600 resolution on minimum settings 12-20fps.
HDD: Better value over the 1TB drives and I'm sure 3 is even more overkill for my needs.

Will most likely opt for linux over Windows to try it out. Suggestions and bully pls


TL;DR Budget Kaby Pentium PC

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>>58589852

Also I'm thinking that PSU is overkill.

>>58589916
Good build but get a SSD you filthy negro.
If you're on budget you can save money by getting a used monitor, Asus and BenQ usually go for cheap.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jccHJV
Going for an everyday desktop. Something with a bit of power so I'm not stuck in 1990, but not really overkill. Would like to be able to run some moderate games, maybe skyrim or something like that at 60fps on low or medium settings for 1080p.

I need an SSD for my T430. Can I get something for < 200 USD that doesn't suck?

>>58590375
Samsung 850 evo, 500GB

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what direction should my fans flow?

and should i flip the radiator/fan?

>>58590414
>Samsung 850 evo
Found one at ~146 USD (I'm in Europe). Way cheaper

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RjWdJV
first time building a pc, any thing i could improve on?

>>58590502
shit, forgot budget $1400
purpose is gayming, running autocad, solidworks and other programs i might use for modeling or simulations

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>>58590502

a few things

the R4 is big case, probably the biggest mid-tower you can buy. i'd recommend looking into ITX cases which are smaller, and less expensive.

also, the power supply you picked isn't modular, which means that the cables are installed in it permanently. this is cheaper but if you look into modular power supplies, they're easier to work with. here's a picture of one.

also you can buy motherboards that already have wifi installed, and you can find them cheaper than that motherboard plus the wifi adapter. but really it's better to hardine your pc to the router. it cuts out the middleman and you don't have to worry about interference, plus faster internet.

and with the i5 6500. it's a locked CPU so that means it can't/shouldn't be overclocked. with the Zxxx motherboards, the Z refers to the ability to overclock CPUs. you can save some money with an H170 motherboard that doesn't give the ability to overclock but saves cash.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z789yf

so check that out, you have the same CPU, but a smaller form factor, built-in WIFI, and you have a better GPU.

>>58590638
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpHGVY

and this one even comes with a modular power supply.

>save pcpartpicker list has krabby lake defaults

absolutely disgusting

>>58590638
>and with the i5 6500. it's a locked CPU so that means it can't/shouldn't be overclocked. with the Zxxx motherboards, the Z refers to the ability to overclock CPUs. you can save some money with an H170 motherboard that doesn't give the ability to overclock but saves cash.
Please educate yourself before posting. "Locked" skylake chips can be easily overlooked on Z170 boards.

>>58590502
>>58590517
Shit overpriced keyboard and meme headset, Z170 is wasted money, get B150 or H110 and get a better SSD.

>>58590719
http://www.ibtimes.com/intel-blocks-skylake-non-k-overclocking-new-chip-update-2299863

what about this?

>>58590443
In from the back and front, out from the top. It would be better to move the radiator to the front and pull in from the front and exhaust out the back and top.

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>>58590638
>>58590659
thanks a shit ton man, i never knew that stuff, and it really makes this an easier process
>>58590727
what's wrong with the keyboard? I understand the the shit i'll get for the headset, but i like having my mic and headphones together when playing video games
i already have separate headphones for music

>>58590748
FUD
Literally didn't happen, still works on latest microcode. They just told most manufacturers to stop it and most did, just keeping the ability to OC in beta labelled BIOS. MSI didn't give a fuck and kept it in main BIOS.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/b2Fsjc
144Hz 1440p gay-ming
r8 & dont h8

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other than my graphics card, is my pc still fine or should i look into upgrading anything else ?

>>58590796
Why full ATX ?

>>58590840
tf is that ram?

>>58590894
speccy shows bad ram speeds usually

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CwqRCy

Is this a good monitor for this build?

>>58590765
>what's wrong with the keyboard?
Keycaps are dogshit, Corsair had LED issues in the past and it's ridiculously overpriced.
>i like having my mic and headphones together
How About good headphones and the Antlion Modmic or Vmoda BoomPro?

>>58590919
You could do 1440p 144hz and gsync, get 60-144fps in any game any settings

>>58590919
I think 1070 is targeted at 1440@144

>>58590950
>good headphones
>piece of shit dollar store mic
Why do people do this? Is meme magic really that powerful?

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>>58590894
>>58590906
well this is what cpu z shows
is this any good ?

>>58590950
I'm pretty set on the headset, but if you have any recommendations for a good keyboard alternative tell me what you'd pick for the same price or under

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Gonna be used for 1440p 144hz gaming. BF1 RS6siege, CSGO, etc

Should I upgrade to an i7? What about a 280mm radiator?

>>58590979
I don't even think you can get DDR3 @666, you could try XMP or XPM something like that, it should make your ram run at the marketed speed, not really sure about the whole affair desu

>>58590953
>>58590965

any monitor suggestions then lads?

>>58591031
Depends if you want IPS or not, if you do, you're shit out of luck, because 1440@144 IPS costs half of a build that could run it, no recommendations, search the shops what they even offer

>>58590443
Generally speaking, you want a unidirectional air flow in your case, going from a filtered intake to an unfiltered vent. The problem with all cases is that there isn't enough direct rear fan mounts to even out the number of intake fans, on top of the airflow-dividing areas around the RAM, CPU cooler, and GPU/PCIe cards. Therefore, the best airflow in almost any case (barring a thin ITX or a rackmountable chassis) is from the front-bottom intake to the rear-top exhaust.

>>58591031

don't fall for the gsync meme

>>58591064
Balancing your airflow is a meme
As long as you have at least one intake and at least one exhaust, you already have 90% of the maximum airflow you can reasonably get

>>58591009
Anything from Ducky, DAS Keyboard or CM Storm.

>>58591013
Upgrade that cpu, definitely. Gonna bottleneck you to shit if you're getting two 980ti's, and why tf are you buying a 980ti now? Get a 1070 sli or Titan X Pascal.

I don't care about 1440p and just want play games perfectly at 1080p.

Should I just get a 6gb 1060?

>>58591013
For your storage, don't know wtf you're doing. Drop both and get 1TB Samsung 850 Evo. If you need all them 5TB, then get a WD Caviar Black instead, should be able to keep up with SSD when loading into CSGO matches (just still slow on startup)

>>58591179
no, get an Intel HD Graphics 530

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>>58591126
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PCFsjc
current partlist now

>>58591158
>800$
Wow, didn't think I would be so right, literally half of the build to run it

>>58591144
That's not how bottlenecking works, that CPU will be able to fully run 2 980tis easily. Even leaving "bottlenecking" behind because it doesn't mean what you think it means, that CPU will be able to keep up with new games easily. It wouldn't hurt getting a 6700k but that's because games are starting to use extra threads, not because he has 980ti in SLI. The 980ti practically matches the 1070 in benchmarks, to the point where you can literally estimate that they're the same card. There's nothing wrong with that CPU and those gpus
Except that SLI is trash, on the maybe 15% of games that support it you'll get maybe a 30% boost in frames, on the other 85% of games one card will just be turned off. SLI is a fucking shitshow and is declining, don't fall for it (ESPECIALLY not with brand new cards)
I'd recommend a 1070 or 1080, for example CSGO could run 144fps/1440p on a 1070, but a doubt BF1 would even run that on a 1080 card
You're gonna have to sacrifice a setting or two but at that budget you could just get a 1080 and be down with it
Or buy Vega when it comes and and if it's a good price, it's supposed to be 1070/1080 tier performance
You don't need an watercooler at all but if you insist on getting one, 240mm watercooling is always better than 120mm
I'd just suggest an air cooler

>>58591013
That's a SATA m2 drive, you want an NVME m2 drive, and specifically a Samsung 950/951/960 since they're a clear step in speed above other NVME drives at the moment

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>>58591266
>>58591013
Wait why the fuck are they $600 each?

Are AMD cards worth getting?
I'm really liking the better cost/performance ratio, but would I be better off getting a GTX1070 over an RX 480?

>>58590295
Why are SSD so recomended?
If I were convinced on them I'd get a 250 or 500 Gb

>>58591407
1080p/60hz or more than that?

>>58591407
Of course 1070 is a lot stronger than 480, but it also costs at least 2 times as much ? Buy based on your budget, if you really want AMD at that cost, you'll have to wait for VEGA

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>>58591407
Those aren't even in the same class, the real evenly matched fight is between the 480 and the 1060, and they just keep trading blows

>>58591416
PNY CS series, ADATA SU800, Samsung 750/850 EVO, SanDisk Ultra II.

>>58591226
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PCFsjc
SSD is shit, PSU overpriced and you already know what i think about your meme headset.

>>58591450
Thank you, I'll look those up, but why is shaving some time off boots and game loads such a big deal?I look at SSDs and cry at the storage to price ratio. What does it have over hard drives that has people gushing buckets over it?

>>58591506
then what are your suggestions regarding the psu and ssd?

High refresh rate AMOLED monitors when.

>>58591491
Consider better psu and GPU.

>>58591512
By reading this i know you never used a SSD before. Just get a cheap 240GB like the PNY CS1311 or ADATA SU800.

>>58591520
EVGA G2/3, SeaSonic G, XFX gold, Super Flower Leadex,... for PSU.
For SSD see above.

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Looking for a ~500Euros build without the case and PSU. Need to have a good upgrade path, but I wanna see if it is possible to overclock non-K Kaby Lake. Don't know which motherboard to chose tho, just picked cheapest Z170 to have some idea what I can spend.

I am learning programming, Blender, photo and video editing - In that order, already know some basics about some of those, just want to step up my game. My laptop died so I had to switch to my old computer (C2D E8500, 4GB DDR3, GTX 550Ti) wich does hinder my progress.

>>58591575
You're right, I've never used one. Could you explain why it is worth getting one?
I'm not against getting one I just don't know much about them other than they reduce boot and load times.

>>58591491
consider saving 150$ by going AMD RX 480 8gb
consider saving space by going mATX, since you didn't reply to my last post asking why full ATX(I think this is the same build
consider why do you need optical drive in 2017, external optical drives exist if you really need to use one every 2 months or so

>>58591583
As far as I've been able to gather, non-k overclocking isn't possible with many lake chips. It's hard to get real info among all the misinformed bullshit posted online though.

>>58591226

But people like this https://youtu.be/ng-pmHV-RMM are seeing a 20% improvement with 980s in SLI compared to a single 1080.

Now a person might say that it would be wiser to get a single 1080 and wait for SLI down the line, but at that point I'd just sell the 980s and trade up.

And the Enthoo doesn't have the best air cooling for overclocking, which is why I'd go with a great liquid cooler over an air cooler.

>>58591523
>AMOLED on a thing you will be using for years
The taskbar would look nice when watching movies/playing games

>>58591665
>many lake
Thanks, autocorrect.
Obviously I meant kaby.

>>58591647
Exactly why, virtually zero load time for OS and applications and completely silent.
I didn't want to "waste" money on a SSD either, but after i got mine... day and night m8, it's worth the money.

>>58591575
I changed my SSD, but I cant find any of those psus that put me under $1400
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fMmDhq