/cyb/ - The Cyberpunk General

First for cyberpunk is now.

second for cyberpunk is dead

>>58500272
Cyberpunk is less about the technology and more about the dystopian future. Computers and tech just happens to be the setting.

I was into it in my teens, but I've since realized that kind of future is never coming because the world doesn't work that way. It's much easier to have 3 people in a room lie about something than it is to orchestrate some clandestine server infiltration(which was probably made possible by some dumbass responding to a phishing e-mail instead of some guy in an alley way jacked into an ethernet port fed to a garbage can).

>>58500572
We're too schway to fall for your lies, sinister megacorp shill

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>>58500272

I'm one of the "we're living in it now camp" but with a lot less neon lights and seedy back alleys.

I'm into making my own tech that either doesn't connect to the net, or if it does making it without backdoored parts.

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>tfw your too old and irrelevant to care
Enjoy the future- we built it.... 4U

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>>58501317
Old tech is the way to go. Anything produced before ~2005 won't be affected by planned obsolescence as badly

>>58502260
Old tech that still works is by definition reliable. The power bill for that pic must be immense.

I'd like a HP Superdome for a server, it has that megacorp look to it.

>>58500272
>https://pastebin.com/q2AnW0rT
Is that the list of things updated with all the contributions the last few months??

>>58502482
Yeah, those are the recent ones. I'm planning to make separate pastes based on category. I hope to do that today, if I'm not busy.

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>>58502260
That looks like Gilfoyle's Bitcoin mining rig

>>58500572
Yeah, we were on usch a good way to having a totalitarian dystopian future. But Trump had to come and make America great again.

Or only hope right now is that we have a re election and Soros sponsored Hillary and the Corrupt DNC can continue destroying the world.

Is a live usb of tails with vpn, tor, vpn at a public wifi the best way to be anon right now?

Would using it repeatedly on my own eeepc on public wifi defeat the purpose?

>>58502734
have you not been following obabo's setup for no privacy allowed?

Using a vpn is equivilentto having a warrantto search your shit now, and nsa just turned over all their raw data to the rest of govt

>>58502617
OK, there is a lot more to add, I have contributed a fair bit over the last few months.

There are still gaping holes, like literature. You could subdivide that into periods like
pre-cp: bester, Brunner etc
Golden age: Sterling, Gibson, Shirley etc
Silver age: Neal Stephenson
Bronze age: Richard Morgan etc

BTW the Cyberpunk entries on Wackypedia is pretty dire. I used to contribute but these days the politics just isn't worth it.

>>58504006
Got it. Any other categories?

>>58503130
Not everyone lives in the US you know.

Have you read "Hack the Spew?" It kind of deals with that scenario.

More CP humor: A Future We'd Like to See: http://stefangagne.com/twoflower/fwls/
It won a competition quite a few years ago.

>>58504621
Make a 2D plot
X axis is era (golden age etc.)
Y-axis is main style (noir, militaristic (Kadrey), psychedelic (Jeff Noon with Vurt), horror (Shirley), etc.

I remember someone wrote that Charles Dickens was proto-cyberpunk since he dealt with the ugly underside of British industrialisation.

Also "Cheap Truth" is a definite must to read, it is what got the "movement" underway before it got the label Cyberpunk.

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>>58504726
When you say "2D", you mean this, right?

A large collection of older resources: http://www.streettech.com/bcp/BCPgraf/
There used to be a lot of zines, I have one issue of CNS but these are really, really hard to find these days.

>>58504783
Yup, that's right. Will look a lot cooler than just a list.

Gotta go now, back in 6 hours,. Hope /CYB/ remains then.

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The first Watch Dogs wasn't strictly cyberpunk, but it dealt heavily with privacy, which I admire.

>>58505682
>>>/v/

>>58505743
I was just bumping the thread, Anon.

/v/ is garbage.

>>58505743
Fuck off.

>>58505769
>playing pseudo intellectual games portraying a cancer mainstream view of le hagging culdujre
I suggest you follow the advice you're giving me

Who is running a open i2p hotspot?
Was thinking to start running one just need a AP.

http://www.activewirehead.com/diy-wearables-head-mounted-displays/

Looks like the thread is dying. I'll work on the pastebin stuff tonight if I can't sleep. Or tomorrow when I get bored.

Night, /cyb/.

>>58507574
goodnight.

>>58500272
you guys really ought to consider changing the name of your thread. maybe it's just me but cyb makes me think of cybering/cybersex which is apparently not what you guys are discussing. just thought I'd toss that out there

>>58500272
Hello darkness my old friend.

>>58501593
noice, I somewhat remember this comic, post more

>>58507809
http://romanticallyapocalyptic.com/archives

Does anybody have that article talking about why people should care about keeping their browsing history safe from businesses?

I remember reading it here, but I can't find it in the /g/ or /cyb/ pastebins

>>58500572
https://youtu.be/eil_1j72LOA
The Julian Assange show is essential. Heres a good example episode. Well worth you time.

>>58508320
Meant to quote OP.

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I was reading the cyberpunk manifesto and lurking some threads in /cyber/ and it ocurred to me....
Shouldn't there be some sort of cyberpunk philosophy? I mean something like a set of values as to what would be cyberpunk. Not really a guideline, but more like putting together the ideas of the community of what is cyberpunk, what includes it, what excludes it, what doesn't matter.
You know these threads where newbies come and ask "how to be a cyberpunk", asking about aesthetics, OS, programming, soldering, political stances, and so on.
Some sort of document with a few opinions that we can mostly agree on about what can be cyberpunk. For example, it would include stuff as to cryptography and ditching the corps (M$), and also stuff like in pic related.

Shall we?

>>58500272 (OP)
>IRC
when will the irc come back, the rizon channel hasnt existed in any real capacity for years, in fact, its not even on rizon's channel list at all at the moment

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>>58508349
I agree, that's why I've been posting videos to the cyberpunk manifesto and related material

CPEU2 - Cyberpunk. From fiction to fact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce53eICXREc

Cyberpunk Animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-fv_KR4bB8

Cyberpunk-Visions of Future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_WozJvfYwM

The Cyberpunk Manifesto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xEQeuxn7M

TUN Cyberpunk is back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVO1HCNQ8M

Cyberpunk (1990) [Full documentary in high quality] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRwU9zJcT60

27c3: Cybernetics for the Masses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APOAmxFEMkQ

The Cyberpunk Educator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTqnzsRg_0E

>>58509047
>>58508349

I vote there should be a lot of postmodernism in it.

I'm a big fan of fake reality.

>>58509226
The Cyberpunk Educator, in short, express ideas from deep, representing what a cyberpunk in fiction is from the perspective of mostly 80's movies.

>>58508320
>Assange
He was active on a cypherpunk list back in the day and he lives up to it's philosophy pretty well.

Invented crypto scheme
Makes information free
Has stuck it to several different versions of The Man
Persecuted by governments and corporations

I mean, if the ecadorian embassy were a low-earth orbit data sanctuary then it would be perfect.

>>58508413
Ummm... okay.

Cheap Truth is here: http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/~erich/cheaptruth/

That is a text only version. I have never seen the graphical version though it should be out there.

i need some website ideas
i want to make something interesting

>>58510798
i don't have any ideas, but i believe in you anon

>>58500272
>Suggestions
There is also the Japanese side
anime/mange: GItS, Yokohama Kaidasho Kikou
movie: Rubber's Lover, 864 Pinoccio, Tetsuo the Iron Man

From proto-cyberpunk movies the number one movie is indubitably Blade Runner. It hit the mark to precisely that Wm Gibson ran out of the cinema, thinking his entire novel was anticipated by the movie.

>>58500272
Have you added the Usenet News newsgroups?
The news:alt.cyberpunk groups and the news:alt.cyberpunk.* has some sporadic traffic and is a gold mine of stuff.

Also, anyone found the FutureCulture archive? That was a hurricane of a mailing list, 400 messages - on a quiet day.

>>58511458
Add to anime Cowboy Bebop, Metropolis (2001 animated film), and perhaps Patlabor.

As for movies Æon Flux (2005), Enemy of the State (1998), Johnny Mnemonic (1995), Nirvana (1997), WarGames: The Dead Code (2008), and the RoboCop movies.

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Cyberpunk clothing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t22wRrEW14A

>>58513602
Usenet is harsh for newbies anon, does it worth it? Having to pay and the difficult it is to set a client takes away the attractiveness.

If only a free account existed.

>>58508413
There is one in freenode, not sure how is related.

>>58514861
Just use eternal September or something if you don't want to/can't pay

>>58505682
there's not a long list of games which deserve oblivion along with every single person involved and I'm sure Watchdoggies is near the top. It's pathetic how they got something and repackaged it for mainstream consuming trying to pass it as cyberpunk or hacker culture. It's a poor man GTA V with no story and lame game mechanics that turns into a really boring grind fest of doing the same shit over and over and over in a dull world where everything looks the same.
Feel fucking ashamed for even installing this shit.

>>58510365
what is this? At work right now, so can't look into this

>>58516112
seconding this question

>>58513605
Good stuff there, anon.

That reminds me that the classic Metropolis (1927) is also proto-cyberpunk.

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anyone else think /pol is very cyb?

>>58514861
>Usenet is harsh for newbies anon, does it worth it?
Well, 4chan isn't roses only. Usenet News has a strong academic tradition combined with openness for pseudonymous posters and anonymity. In my experience on Usenet, as long as your post is worth a few minutes it takes to read it, you will be OK. If on the other hand people ask for their five minutes back you should take the hint.

>Having to pay and the difficult it is to set a client takes away the attractiveness.
The news clients are user friendly, just choosy about who the friends are. With "trn" it is sufficiently user friendly. Keep in mind that posting was heavy and in order to drink from the fire hose you need a study tool. And trn is such a tool: powerful, configurable, efficient and unforgiving.

>If only a free account existed.
First open a free shell account: http://shells.red-pill.eu/
SDR and Nyx,net are good. These normally have Usenet News access. Nyx has a strong tradition for openness and defends anonymity and has faced Secret Service. Seriously.

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>>58517391
in the same way all of 4chan is
we're never going mainstream
everyone knows, almost no cares, just like death metal

>>58516112
>>58516255
Cheap Truth was a Zine made by Bruce Sterling et al, all pseudonymous so we don't know all the names. Basically they were sniping the the established SciFi authors of the day (early 80s), claiming a renewal of a stagnant genre was way overdue. They also promoted their own work, the group at the time was just known as the Movement. Later they were called Cyberpunk.

Originally there was a lot of graphics but the archives are text only.

You could say this is the manifesto for the cyberpunk authors - Stirling, Gibson, Shirley, Shiner, Rucker, and probably a few others (Cadigan perhaps?).

It is quite work safe.

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Hoping this thread will be alive when I return tomorrow. Meanwhile, a Cyberpunk interpretation by the inimitable Mike Maihack, or Cyberpink as he calls it. Pic.

>Zero Day: Nuclear Cyber Sabotage
>A Storyville documentary: How the American and Israeli intelligence agencies allegedly unleashed self-replicating computer malware to destroy part of an Iranian nuclear facility.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08bcc18/storyville-zero-day-nuclear-cyber-sabotage

Thought I'd share this, it's about Stuxnet; It's discovery by the security industry and how they pieced together what it was designed to do as well as interviews with Washington insiders and NSA/Mossad operatives. Has some pretty cool cyberpunky visuals as well. Hopefully non UK residents can watch it. I have no fucking idea.

>>58520377
britfag here, that's cool it's on the bbc but whatever to them.

>>58520377
You can torrent it also for better viewing pleasure.
Stuxnet is just the beginning we are now at war with cybers.
It's just a free for all at the moment.

>>58520939
Yeah, Stuxnet was like what, 6-7 years ago? Fuck knows what kind of capability they have now. With the Snowden leaks, the DNC hack, Yahoo and other major corporate network compromises, the Internet of Things botnet et al. Just what is in the public domain is pretty scary as it stands, so what is classified but possible and currently on going operations must be even worse. I think it's safe to say, if "they" want access to a computer system, they will have access to that computer system. Going forwards, we live in interesting but terrifying times.

is digital art will survive at /cyb/ age.?

>>58521851
we are in /cyb/ age, senpai
start hoarding all of the digital art you can

>>58517391
word, /pol/ is anti-cyb

>>58521699
yep that's pretty much why symantec (who happily promote the film on twitter and of course 2 of there researchers are featured in it) have changed from a protection model stance to a not if but when and so are focusing on intrusion discovery and minimizing damage

cant remember where i read about it but most likely twitter.

>>58523257
i think "beyondtrust" believe this too, judging from one of the profs they had do a talk in a recent webinar however that could be perceived as scaremongering and shilling as the second half was about there software but none the less it did look like it would be effective although enterprise level stuff

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Bumping with a nice pic. Yersinia, a network vulnerability scanner.

What other unix tools you think are cyberpunk?

>>58521699
>capability they have now
Word on the net is a biological equivalent. Look up "Genetic warfare", say on Wikipedia. Unpleasant stuff to say the least.

Look at retro computing, specifically at this short video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESaTREAAzww

It gives a certain feel of purpose, access to all information in a way more open, but more importantly, more structured.

I bet some of the anons lurking this thread are thinking in gopher, usenet, and BBS, as things of the past, but what if that kind of networking can be brought back to do as the internet originally was meant for and share information we really want to?

Forums like 4chan can give a top of things, but for longer conversations in a more focused way, exchanging large files, or even text files, are harder to do anonymously.

Maybe this imply a sort of serving all in boilerplates and spoonfeeding the newbie and the casual, but also implies if such services were as easy as to post in 4chan they'll get as many people back into this as 4chan itself does.

Just consider, sites like facebook actually corrupted modern communications with their cluttered interface and only make easier to the much toxic personalities to succeed. Anonymous filesharing with a spartan interface is in my opinion the cure.

>>58508349
>soldering
I'd be a bit interested in this. Got a circuit board that needs a few capacitors replaced but don't want to do it as my first project so it's been sitting around for a long while.

There should definitely be an entry on cyberpunk technology, especially since CRISPR/Cas9 could change the world as much as the net did in the 80's.

Obvious tech topics are communications including networking and radio, electronics, wiring, navigation, ESR, ECM etc.

i think galaxy express was best cyber punk animation

>2017
>IoT botnet ravages the web creating a constantly moving blackout zone.
>social unrest in the streets and protests force goverments to use state force to supress the population
>massive effort by corp and gov actors is taken to roll out highly restricted network as replacement for the web we know today
>2018
>the last place where resistance could form has been eradicated

>>58526401
>>58527681
Oh god, yes, make these happen.

Cyberpunk diy is our salvation. Imagine what /g/ could've been with this instead of what is now.

>>58524618
slurm network monitor?
Anything with ncurses really..

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Bumping with sweet retrowave vibes:
http://driveradio.be/radioplayer/

>>58530196
Yeah, ncurses is going to be my first incursion in programming because damn it looks sexy.

>tfw learning to code just for that

>>58529108
Lots of cool stuff is available, just look at rtl-sdr.com, Adafruit etc. Also Raspberry Pi comes with new hardware regularly. And even if you don't want to make your own receiver, you can always use http://websdr.org/

what skills are essential for a cyberpunk world

i'm a mathematician, how useful would i be in a post-dystopian dystopia?

>>58531835
Shooting, lockpicking, hacking, electronics, climbing, first aid, unarmed combat. Maths is fucking useless.

>>58532040
cryptography and hacking are math oriented along with some electronics. also some basic first aid requires conversions and do not forget that long distance shooting requires math

Hl2 is my favorite cyb game

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Are there any more music videos with cyberpunk through the roof ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjBPIbJMzY

>>58531835
Knowledge is power. That is even more true today than when the ancient Greeks made this expression. Thus the ability to gain new knowledge and the insight to actually use this knowledge, will be invaluable.

That does not mean we are talking about the end of the world. Just the job market these days means you should assume a lot of job changes throughout your working life, moreover there will probably be major career changes too for most people. I have changed career 3 times so far in addition to job changes. Without the continuous ability to learn new things I would have ended up in the junk yard of the job market.

>>58530228
thanks anon

>>58533332
Speaking of end of world of disaster events, how about radio communication and other ways of communication in dystopian world.

>>58532102
> cryptography
If you're going to reinvent the wheel.
> hacking
Not really. It's either skidding with Metasploit or Assembler if you're going 0day.

>>58533713
For that we have this pasta: http://pastebin.com/9uYXMhVm

>>58531835
I see that the FSF is re-prioritising, away from pure tech to tech for security: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/changelog

>>58532040
In Wm Gibson's books not everyone is in the gutters fighting for scraps. Some are movers and shakers, others are executives. Unless we see a societal collapse on the scale of the collapse of the Roman empire, this will remain so. And even if, say, the US were to collapse, skilled people could get work elsewhere, like Japan, Korea, Australia, New Zealand etc.

>>58533975
wow you are incredibly dense and have no idea what either of those fields entail

https://www.literotica.com/s/for-all-you-cyberpunks

>>58533713
http://www.servalproject.org/
'Simply put, Serval is a telecommunications system comprised of at least two mobile phones that are able to work outside of regular mobile phone tower range due thanks to the Serval App and Serval Mesh. Some of the most exciting benefits of this are:

1. Communicate anytime

2. Communicate anywhere

3. Communicate privately

4.Communicate with people'

>>58502617
>I hope to do that today, if I'm not busy.
How is this coming along?

An old but still interesting source is the ol' alt.cp FAQ:
http://project.cyberpunk.ru/idb/alt.cyberpunk_faq.html

That might be a good starting point to make the main pasta. Also, what format? Pure text, HTmL, Wiki markup, there is even mathb.in for latex.

>>58534773
>3. Communicate privately
Well, that really depends. From the web pages it seems it uses WIFI mesh networking to do the actual work (the apps is just user interfacing). Alternatively they have tested HF.

All of this can be snooped. Try crypto over HF and unless you have a very good reason and a solid permission, various agencies will come looking for you.

>>58504726
Adding to this there is also Cyber porn. Japanese movie IKU is one well known case (I haven't seen it). Also there is Eudemon which is actually less porn than the premise suggests, strange as it may sound.
http://www.evil-dolly.com/assets/eudeamon.pdf
The cyberspace premise is rather interesting.

OK; off for another few hours, hope the thread stays alive,

>JA promises to comply with extradition via Twatter under condition that Manning gets released
>Manning pardoned in last few days of the outgoing administration

If JA holds up his end of the bargain that means he's coming to face a trial under the US Trump administration

Things are getting pretty interesting

Forgive the arsshit link
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/chelsea-mannings-35-year-sentence-commuted-by-obama/

>>58536157
It's a deal he made with the Obama administration. He gets to save face by saying he won't turn himself in unless they release her, but they were gonna do that anyway, instead of him getting killed or forced to turn himself in. Then, when his trial starts, it will be Trump's problem.

>>58534298
Thanks was looking for this.

>>58534773
The problem is in such disaster event that most likely mobile phone towers don't work, in this case there are still ways to communicate over radio this all depends if you have some gear that will allow that for example walkie talkies.

>>58536447
that does make sense
his situation at the Ecuadorian embassy was getting shaky iirc

>>58534478
>https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/changelog
>Free phone operating system
>Free drivers, firmware, and hardware designs
>hardware designs
There is hope for mankind.

>>58536948
>>Free phone operating system
this is delusional
good luck getting a free baseband and afterwords having it comply commercially with carriers

I hate when the FSF has their head up their ass. Historically this happened when they decided to be engineering perfectionists with HURD allowing Linux to mix into their OS and take away from the image of freedom they were trying to promote

>free firmware and hardware designs
again, see you in a few decades so we can dust the spiderwebs off our idealist checklists
you need a whole free architecture to build on as X86 is incompatible

>>58536562
You have to be over 18 to post on this board

>>58537053
didn't read the link but maybe there are other ways of going about it without having to use baseband modems like the serval project linked in this thread and anyway i'm pretty sure there are people working on free modem's.

did you know qualcomm use linux in there's? i think that almost makes it free

>>58537498
there is a reason baseband is not free and it goes beyond technical and business purposes


it's not going to be free anytime soon and creating a new standard besides baseband designed to connect to a cell tower that respects privacy is completely unrealistic because it's a process that is riddled in meeting commercial and government standards that even corporate giants have trouble dealing with.

Unlike with standard OSes you can't just write a baseband OS and have it connect to a subscriber network because you tell it to. It needs to be certified otherwise your carrier will tell you to fuckoff. The FSF doesn't have the money and time to jump through the legal and engineering challenge of working on a baseband OS that can conform to a global set of cell and subscriber standards

The closest that we came to a free baseband was iirc the NEO900 that was set to feature a removable one. No point talking about it since it's probably stale by now

>>58524618
>this thread makes me want my OS to print 'Am I being Detained?" and "Get a Warrant, you fat fuck" in all fields for screenfetch.

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>>58537653
https://ghostbin.com/paste/ka4cf
my shitty version of ascii art, lots of cyberpunk/hacker culture references, enjoy

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>>58534646
Not the same anon, but what would it entail exactly? If we're talking software, is it unreasonable to brute force it with premade tools first? Sure there's the sticking point that if the dev knew about the tool, had some sort of suite, or third party security measure that all current tools would be useless.

Although that does imply that the software runs in its own obfuscated folder like apps downloaded from the Windows store on W10. I'm sure with programming and general knowledge of messing around with configs you could start digging if all the files are exposed.

There's also digging around for 0 days in hardware and networking of course. Sorry for the wall of text, but I don't think "how to find 0 days" as a search would help much.

>>58532597
Nice. I usually look here https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk_Music/

>>58539304
fucking reddit shitters
>>>/out/

>>58537053
>this is delusional
I agree. And it truly cements the impression that FSF is out of touch with reality. A free phone OS might have been a viable project 15 years ago but not today. That train already leftteh station.

>>58537498
>qualcomm use linux in there's
In some products, not all. Look up L4. Also Qualcomm is famous for secrecy so good luck in getting details for your free implementation. You can get (some) info on HExagon but you have to sign a lot of documents first.

Also, like >>58537596 writes, application side is a different world from baseband, especially in terms of patent protection.

>>58501317
>but with a lot less neon lights and seedy back alleys.

but those are the best parts

we're finally living in a time where we're addicted to the internet and the government and private corps are electronically spying on us. And I can't even wear a trenchcoat and hang out in an alley smoking an electronic cigarette without looking like a colossal faggot. It's the worst parts of both reality and cyberpunk

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>>58541007
I believe we're being too conservative with our image of cyberpunk. The mentality that comes with high tech/ low life and fighting The Man are definitely happening right now.

Cyberpunk is a lifestyle, not a fashion trend!

>>58537596
For the original GSM standards all patents should have expired, at least outside the US. Some have made a working GSM basestation and I think it was tested during a Burning Man. The standard is old and relatively primitive but gets the job done.

Alternatively you could get a license and use packet radio and I think all of those are free with the exception of D-STAR.

I might update the radio pasta with this if there is any interest.

>>58502260
If only I could use that baby for machine learning...

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>>58541007
>He hasn't been to Tokyo or Hong Kong
Plenty of Neon/L.E.D signs and cramped back alleys. If you want the Cyberpunk aesthetic, you have to go to East, since that's what a lot of the media is based on.

>>58541034
I would say this, however. The fashion of the Matrix is cringey as fuck now looking back at it but it was perfect for it's time of 1999. Fashions and Aesthetics change throughout the decades but the underlying principles remain the same. It seems that we're all stuck with this 80's/90's image of Cyberpunk along with it's tropes and anything that falls outside that narrow window doesn't count or is post-cyberpunk. I understand why, because that aesthetic is cool as fuck. It just means we keep rehashing the same formula over and over without really innovating.

We're currently living through a time of actual keyboard cowboys, hacktivists, large scale bulk data collection and storage, cyber espionage, botnet of things and state sponsored cyber warfare. If that's not Cyberpunk, I don't know what is.

>>58543358
>The fashion of the Matrix
Well, it brought back shades and mirrorshades instantly, and I remember all shops ran out of dark coats, immediately on release.

Fashion is fluid and black on black with black in black is already here. People coming in to work in the early morning look like they are headed for a funeral. And vanta black is now cool.

>We're currently living through a time of actual keyboard cowboys
Agreed. And it is pretty dystopic too. Middle class is being squashed, job market is under pressure and LinkedIn profiles now look like scrolls of companies that came and went, or rather zoomed in and then imploded. Stability is out.

At the same time poverty in the third world is going down, who knows what will emerge from there.

>>58508288
Don't have source but I do have a storytiem.

>Be me
> 22
>be webdev/sysadmin for real estate website
>harvest a few tens of K's worth of emails.
>data has addresses names and other information attached
>exfiltrated data and resold it to marketing places for a few hundred per company.

Data resellers/warehousing is a profitable biz.

>>58508413
#/g/punk it's been active for years (on rizon)

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I'm an electrical engineering student and working hard towards my degree.

My dream is to live a /cyb/ life in a place like hong kong or taipei designing the technology of the future by day while living a low life clubjumping and generally doing /cyb/ shit by night, at least while I'm still in my 20s.

I already know I'm smart enough to get in this field (I'm well on my way there), figured I'd ask you guys how to steer my career in the direction of that international spin.

Nice general, will lurk.

>>58543776
Uh... obviously sell your services doing shady shit. i.e. High Tech Low Life. Use SDR equipment for key-fob shenanigans for car stealing. Or..... IMSI catcher.. etc.


Or make cheating peripherals for gamblers in foreign casinos. Maybe automatic card counters (did this somewhat in opencv)

Anything useful will have a heavy comp-sci component though...

>>58543776
Have you lived in the Far East? If you do technology design by day you are basically in a massive world wide rat race, competing to be the first to deliver the Next Big Thing product that will make you all rich, or at least the company rich. That leaves just about zero time extensive night life and clubjumping.

>>58543776
>I already know I'm smart enough
>living a low life clubjumping and generally doing /cyb/ shit by night

>>58544125
>Or make cheating peripherals for gamblers in foreign casinos
hah, i've actually seen paper about chip to aid computer vision and one of the first uses they suggested was "recognizing" cards.
it could "do" 720p60 while using like 50 miliwatts

>>58544125
>>58545449

This is different from using skimmers, but way cool.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-banks-theft-idUSKCN0ZT0Y6

>>58545434
Kek

>>58545434
Sounds like Case, before the mycotoxin brain damage.

>>58545449
720 yes, 60 is overkill. Especially since you'll be using some Shitty-such SoC to implement it. You only need to average and rotate the frame a few times ( so select 10 frames) then pass the image through convolution filter. Green vs. White backgrounds wlll make cards easy to orient correctly.

>>58545449
There is a lot of augmented human vision taking place, just not limited to Molly. Some have even done some dodgy experiments to allow for night vision in humans.

Ok; will this thread live another day? We are on a good roll so far.

>>58540976
It's not delusional if the only argument you have is that it's not viable. How about get this idea of using baseband processors out of the way and as I said implementing a communications network without the baseband and cell towers by using something like Serval.

Geez

>>58541855
There was a recent defcon where they set up there own network, giving out free sim's maybe that's what your thinking of.

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>>58550359
>Ok; will this thread live another day? We are on a good roll so far.

Quite sad really. I remember a couple years ago the /cyb/ thread would always reach bump limit in a day or 2. Now, we're on what, day 3 and haven't even had 150 posts yet. What happened man? Did everyone migrate to other imageboards? Mega is dead. Lain is shit. double/cyb/ is decent but slow as fuck. What do?

I will say, however, whoever keeps making these threads, never stop you persistent glorious bastard.

>>58551514
Thanks Anon~
Thread is on page 10. It will probably die tonight.

>>58553391
Before it dies, official /g/ channel (as official as it can be) for cybshit is #/g/punk on rizon

Come join us!

>>58541855
Base stations are easy. The cellphone's (baseband) implementation isn't so straight forward.

Youtube open-bts (or google). GSM networks always pop during defcon because it's not that hard to implement the tower. Its the handheld that holds most challenge.

>>58508349
There is no "being cyberpunk." It's more along the lines of life itself. Cyberpunk is more of a setting that parts of society has already moved towards. If you notice in a cyberpunk universe everyone has different ideas. Trying to make some kind of childish "manifesto" only demeans the personal expression that do often gets shown in those universes.

>>58553794
>Manifesto
>demeans the personal expression

What the hell are you on about. A Manifesto is a form of personal expression. As for there is no being cyberpunk, I disagree. Tangentially it has many cultural appropriations through subgroups such as the cypherpunks of the 80's (and now), along with actual transhumanist movements.

It's art informing our state in life (whether we contrast with cyberpunk culture) by a measure of possible dystopian outcomes. And with that measure many literary figures have called on us to be wary of cyberpunk's boogeymen (megacorp, rogue AI, etc).

I say rather, we are on the cusp of bringing the material and aesthetic reality of cyberpunk into focus. The fact we should be aware of is that the fiction most likely informs the outcomes our current society is trending towards. Yes, some books/movies are more plausible than others in terms of our current outcome. Even then, it's one of the utilitarian uses of art and culture to frame our future this way.

>>58553979
I think they mean your personal expression infringes on their personal expression to put it simply.

>>58554398

Oh geeze.

Well I'll hvae you know I'm a Trans PoC with a disability, so I hope their cishetableistshitlording would stop oppressing me. Or some such meme.

>>58554425
I'm gonna have to support >>58553794
in this one. If we go by Cyberpunk being a mentality that idealizes freedom and tech, it would seem hypocritical that we would put constraints in a manifesto that tries to encompass a culture as a whole.

I think another solution would be to contribute to the medium by making new media and pushing for an updated vision of what a modernized cyberpunk would be like. This new media could be what the modern culture chooses to appropriate like a manifesto would do of the creative works of the past.

For a more modern take we've got Animatrix and the concept trailer for Grey State.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

The director was found suicided along with his family : http://www.policestateusa.com/2015/gray-state-suicide/

>>58554652
Which is the intended effect. The constraints reinforce the reality we live in. Now we have a choice to glibly go with it, parroting couture.

Trying to "right the ship" is what I think many of our authors and our cultural forefathers would want in the instance of cyb culture. So *clap* we're bucking the system!

>>58554724
That seems more in line with hacktivism, which is becoming pretty CYB. Cyberpunk is just a cool aesthetic to me, but stories, fashion, music and other media can be crafted from such an aesthetic. I think we're already doing a good job even in these threads by recognizing how authors like Huxley predicted our current time. It might seem petty of me if I don't like the idea of something so broad be constricted by a set of rules.

I do think it would be fine if it were changed to something more akin to a manifesto of the cyberpunk or hacktivist.

Maybe the cyberpunk's/ hacktivist's manifesto would be a decent title.

>>58550936
I found some coverage (no pun) here, and it was 6 years ago
http://geek-mag.com/posts/103145/
>Open Source a GSM network at the Burning Man festival

http://openbts.sourceforge.net/FieldTest/
>The Unofficial Non-Carrier of Burning Man 2008
>(Please do not call us Black Rock City Cellular. We are not a telephone company.)

So yes, the tech was available also 8 years ago.

>>58553727
>Its the handheld that holds most challenge.
Interesting, I'll look more into that.

>>58543607
>poverty in the third world is going down
I am from third world and I don't see it

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>>58556968
Interesting. Which part of it? I am not doubting you, the perception of a country and the situation is very different from within compared to from the outside.

Anyway just google "decline in global poverty" and you get tons of graphs. These seem solid enough:
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2015/10/04/world-bank-forecasts-global-poverty-to-fall-below-10-for-first-time-major-hurdles-remain-in-goal-to-end-poverty-by-2030
http://www.economist.com/news/finance-economics/21673530-number-poor-people-declining-data-are-fuzzy-tricky-work-measuring-falling

>>58502260
pretty ghetto

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anybody have decent hardstyle recommendations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOolrcK-yys
asking for a friend...

>>58557657
ephixa

>>58553391
yeah thanks for making these chummer, best threads on /g/ imo

>>58553979
A manifesto is a form of limiting other's expression to be more in line with your own.
When making one up to define a movement you then limit what can and can't be a part. Cyberpunk isnt communism, it's a society with heavy levels of integrated technology to the point of commidification. We have reached that point, but not all big business today is solely out for profit as some genuinely wish to improve the human condition. To try to define someone as cyberpunk solely based on economic means is shit. As it currently stands, transhumanism isn't like in scifi, most people today have no qualms about it as most of it is currently meant for the disabled. Stop trying to apply a personal, limiting definition to something that defines a society as a whole.

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>>58558077
I'm not sure I agree with that. It's a summary of an individual or a groups feelings and beliefs on a subject that tries to encapsulate the zeitgeist as they envision it. You can agree or disagree with it in part or in whole and even challenge it with counterpoints. I'm not sure how it limits other people's expression as long as free speech and the avenues to communicate such speech exist. If the manifesto gains traction and becomes accepted by the majority of a subculture as canon then it just means that a lot of people agree with the sentiments. It doesn't mean "I'm right, you're wrong. Shut up and accept it or fuck off"

Although, I suppose that conceivably could be the outcome if 99% agree and you're the 1% that disagrees. But that's simply the nature of public discourse and consensus. That, however, STILL doesn't limit your capacity for expression. It just puts you on the fringe.

>>58557356
Paraguay. I dont disagree with the graphs, just saying I don't tangibly see it. \_(=3)_/

>>58550359
>Molly
Just googled for Molly Millions, also on Deviantart. Well, well, well. Seems most people have forgotten her most prominent features, the eye inserts. Most of the art was simply dire. Trinity looked better than the Molly Millions cosplays.

>>58553979
Totally right. Those who think a manifesto is like a constitution never met the unabomber manifesto and the like.

But >>58541007 is true, cyberpunk aesthetics hit the wall with a repressive media that only portraits atni-cyberpunk aesthetics and the exact opposite of cyberpunk point of view.

Is like mass media, thus mainstream culture, has dedicated to influence a denial on cyberpunk, even when the worst parts of cyberpunk came true.

>>58508349
>the cyberpunk manifesto
Funnily Pixiefuel's Manifesto is as relevant today as it was when she shouted it out back in 2006.

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>>58550902
I find it is delusional since FSF wants a mobile phone OS, not an OS for an alternative communications platform.

What you are outlining is closer to packet radio, a tech which was well established 20 years ago. It works well, is global, is free, is open and more. it just is not a mobile phone the way most people think of a mobile phone.

I am a former mil.spark and a licensed radio amateur. It means I have the skills and the paperwork and can pick up pic. related and quite legally communicate around the world. It would however be beyond autistic to call this a phone.

>>58561617
We are on a cyberprep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_derivatives#Cyberprep

Aldous Huxley was right, all the iPhones aesthetics, American Idol-stye shows, were to make society leisure-driven and brainwash people.

>>58561737
but the question is if someone is deliberately doing this way not if people are like this or not

>>58561777
Good question. I have other for you, are there people so influential as to cause this, who at the same time will benefit from this?

Thanks to agencies like NSA and the CIA, and also thanks to massive financial entities, who are linked together, that is partially answered.

Here is some resources btw ftp://joelixny.ddns.net/The%20All-Embracing%20Library/ESTABLISHMENT/

Specially ftp://joelixny.ddns.net/The%20All-Embracing%20Library/ESTABLISHMENT/The%20network%20of%20global%20corporate%20control.pdf

>>58559341
Last time I checked, countries like yours have most of the land was owned by a small feud, same with businesses.

See, what happens in places like these is that you are fighting a war you don't even realize against a bloodsucking feud.

At the same time you have stagnated information, for example you don't really have access to information for self-sufficiency, proper education of diy and access to the tools. A very important part too.

>>58561617
When you talk about a manifesto for an ideological purpose's basisbyou enter the same realm as the Communist manifesto, it becomes a guide not a statement.

>>58562008
I guess many people will still see it as a guide and not an statement, even when most cyberpunk/hacker manifestos were made as statements ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>58561617
The media hasn't repressed cyberpunk aesthetics whatsoever. If anything they're slowly becoming the norm with the rise of techwear, artificial materials, and tech inclusive clothing. The whole trenchcoat + vape is less cyberpunk and more fag because it was never cyberpunk. It's always been seen as poser.

>>58562002
>most of the land was owned by a small feud, same with businesses.
True
>fighting a war you don't even realize
Some of us know, the more educated
>don't really have access to information for self-sufficiency, proper education of diy and access to the tools.
Fucking true

>>58559341
Much of the poverty reductions have taken place in Asia and Africa. In Asia and especially in the Far East the general population has seen enormous leaps of prosperity. Now Africa, and especially the former British colonies are set to take a similar route (outsourcing helpdesk in English speaking countries on the same time zones as Europe is seen as the next big thing).

I wonder then, when will South America see the same growth? Sure, there is wealth, enormous wealth but in a tiny minority mostly.

OK, so will the thread live another day? OP, are you aggregating all the inputs?

>>58562855
>The media hasn't repressed cyberpunk aesthetics whatsoever. If anything they're slowly becoming the norm
See: The new GitS movie.

They've gone for the whole flashy megapolis with bright lights and techy shit everywhere. Whilst visually it looks stunning, it's nothing at all like the GitS universe which was more grounded in a realistic near future reality. It's like they've never watched the movies, the anime series or read the manga or if they have, they feel compelled to have this fantastic Sci-Fi environment because that's what's expected of the genre. It's like every piece of Cyberpunk media has to look like Bladerunner or else it's no longer Cyberpunk. Even the newest Deus Ex games are guilty of this. The original was nowhere near as flashy in terms of neon signs and moving advertisements everywhere.

I'm not really complaining about it, because like I said, it looks fucking incredible. I just think we need some refreshing ideas within the genre.

Is Nackt still here?

Probably gonna put up some old content on hidden services so there is new stuff to read, most isn't on clearnet anymore so hidden services makes a good place to host it I guess.

Whats a Secure OS that I can rice out?

Right now I'm using BunsenLabs. wat do

Are there any credible cybsec news/forums/community sites that a professional would scan through during downtime?

>>58566951
>secure OS
an oxymoron if I ever saw one

>>58566951
OpenBSD is pretty secure, most likely your hardware is not.

>>58565721
>Even the newest Deus Ex games are guilty of this. The original was nowhere near as flashy in terms of neon signs and moving advertisements everywhere.

The new games take place before the Grey Death, they have a pretty legit excuse. If they pull this shit after Denton hits his teens, then we have a problem.

>>58566951
Software will always have bugs and vulnerabilities. The best thing to do is run the least amount of services you require and try to harden your system the best you can.

http://hardenedlinux.org/system-security/2015/06/09/debian-security-chklist.html

https://hightechlowlife.eu/board/threads/think-youre-secure-laughable.2068/

https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2000/04/the_process_of_secur.html

How are you finding Bunsen btw? Switched over to it a month ago since my #! install had not been updated in like over a year and thought it was time to move on.

>>58567302
Its been ok so far. My issue is the same as with #! which is that packages are very old.

No idea what I'm going to do though. blah. Maybe i'll switch to vanilla debian, or vanilla ubuntu or finally just fall for the Arch meme or Crux

>>58517702
Great post, you make this place worthwhile.

What is SDR?

>>58567302
>>58567388
>Using prericed meme operating systems
>2017
this is disgusting

>>58567437
look dude I have work to do. I'm not willing to spend a weekend or two making sure arch or a netinstall works with my hardware, drivers are available, and so on

>>58567642
if you had work to do you would be using a stable supported OS higher on the derivative tree not prericed Debian with shit support and a community of ricers
don't kid yourself

>weekend or two
arch takes 30 minutes tops assuming you know computer basics and aren't using obscure garbage hardware. Arch is a garbage toy OS anyway that uses cancer like systemd

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>>58562855
Nope, that is only your opinion and your only.

Also this >>58565721

>>58565906
Like what?

>>58566951
imh-o you better use a source based distro with the Linux kernel, and learn about kernel modules. Also this >>58567302

>>58567415
Not him but is Software Defined Radio. Personally, I'm still waiting for dongles that can double as regular wifi.

>>58567642
You totally have a point there. We should have an advanced settings manager by now, although we do have a proto-Linux registry (https://sourceforge.net/projects/tlr-regedit.berlios/). Someone should pick up this torch.

>>58500272
>189 replies
is 2017 the year of cyberpunk revival?

Add to Japanese Cyberpunk: Dennou Coil

>>58568355

>Mondo 2000

Mondo 2000 was the predecessor to Wired. I came across an issue when visiting San Francisco as a kid. I must have read through that weird mag a hundred times. It had an article on some guy who dropped huge doses of acid and saw little green aliens. Also, ads for an audio porn CD. Really eye-opening stuff.

Then it turned into Wired, which was really shitty and consumerist by comparison.

>>58568355
me irl, except without the MONEY (NON-DIGITAL PAPER VARIETY)

>>58570668
>Mondo 2000 was the predecessor to Wired
It preceded in time but was it really a predecessor? The Mondo 2000 staff appears to have joined Boing Boing.

Wired used to be OK but now it has taken a deep dive

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo

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>>58568355
say what you want, but with the rise of techwear is obviously proving you wrong. The entire style oozes cyberpunk.
The vision of what cyberpunk looks like has changed over time and shit like Blade Runner and The Matrix define it more nowadays.
>>58567095
Neons always been /cyb/ af. Also most of the first game was old run down areas or in china. Had they had the actual ability to add more neon shit they probably would've. Massive neon signs and moving advertisements perfectly fit the commercialization that results in a cyberpunk world.

>>58572596
fuck i love techwear. it sucks that it's pretty expensive.

>>58572596
Personally, I'd say those three look more like hipsters wearing faggy clothes thinking they look bad ass.

>Massive neon signs and moving advertisements perfectly fit the commercialization that results in a cyberpunk world.
In Asia, maybe. In 25-30 years time when all this crazy tech becomes the norm, I can't see western cities looking like Blade Runner or Deus Ex. They're going to look pretty much like they do now except with newer buildings here and there obviously. Development is expensive and takes time. A really long time. Given the demographic and economic trends over the next 10-20 years, I simply can't see it happening.

Look at Sci-Fi from the 60's/70's/80's. Expectations ALWAYS outpace reality.

>>58506609
Thanks for sharing, that's pretty neat.

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>>58573606
>hipsters wearing faggy clothing
topkek, techwear is so far from hipster.
Hell those clothes are far more in line with cyberpunk than >>58568355. The thought, materials, and time put into those clothes are in line with cyberpunk. Dressing like someone's idea of "80s cyberpunk" is a hipster in faggy clothes (they were even faggy back then, you don't like Kurt Russel).
And western cities are already shitholes like in Deus Ex and Blade Runner, just less neon.

>>58573553
>tfw too poor for anything with ACRNM on it

>>58573775
So you basically want to reinvent cyberpunk to fit your taste? Got it.

>>58573775
Also calling fags to 80's cyberpunks doesn't makes you more cyberpunk, only a bigot.

>>58573798
Cyberpunks evolved since the 80s, chummer.
>>58573822
>being cyberpunk
wewlad.

>>58573837
Again, you have your idea of cyberpunk which not everybody agrees.

Keep it honest.

>>58573875
Dude I get it, you think we're in the 80s and that aesthetics of things can't change.

>>58573775
I was talking about the people themselves rather than the clothing which I admittedly know nothing about. The top knots, those goggles, those skinny jeans and shoes. Just screams hipster posers to me. They probably went straight to Starbucks afterwards with their MacBooks to share this photo with social media.

If Techwear is that expensive as has been stated then it doesn't seem very "punk" to me. The whole low life, DIY mentality is lacking. Just another fashion that's being commercialized to profit from trend hopping sheep.

To implement distinct cyberpunk versions/fashions would pretty much help us to distinguish what everybody is expecting. Maybe even help us develop identity for other people to follow in creating a trend and eventually slip into mainstream.

I mean, there is cypherpunk as a current of computer security trend, something in the lines of DIYpunk seems to be pretty trendy too, and also seems to be information on the topic already.

>>58573914
High tech/low life meant spending more money on technology and necessities rather than extra stuff. Techwear uses technical fabrics that help repel/block water, wick moisture, let air breathe, and look cool as shit

>>58573971
Sorry, I prefer stillsuits.

>>58573971
Agree, technology and basic needs should be priorities. Not sure about techwear, only because I don't dig the fashion, but I see why people like it.

Anyone else into textpunk? http://ix.io/1jVi

>>58573971
You don't have to spend money on tech to be high tech, it's more a knowledge thing & 5 year old hardware is fine for anything cyberpunk related on the nets hell C2D would be enough to run a terminal and ssh or a WM.
For example you can build things cheaply yourself with microcontrollers & old thinkpad, then you are high tech.
Low life is rather underground, living with as less money & gov interference as possible.
Techwear you can make yourself, spending money on useless clothing that is way to overpriced is capitalism.

Again, we need an guide for cyberpunk technology like electronics like someone already said >>58526401 >>58527681

And it should be right up on the OP.

A nice chat about 3D printing in a cyberpunk world is happening at /tg/ >>>/tg/51292852

>>58576258
https://hackaday.com/ seems like a good start. Of course Forest Mims' books started many a careers too. ARRL handbooks are good for RF designs.

Trivia: the job market is saturated with digital designers. If on the other hand you are good at analogue design (even better analogue RF, analogue low noise etc) you will command a pretty good salary. There are just too few good analogue designers. Analogue design legends like Bob Widlar certainly put a touch of punk into their tech.

Analogue is still art.

>>58573837
>Cyberpunks evolved
80's: Male US president, female UK prime minister, close working relationship
today: ditto

80's: Wars and conflicts around the world, large nations in the East causing concern, dangers of more and larger wars
today: ditto

80's: A fair bit of unemployment, big corps doing well but the common man is not doing well financially. Financial turbulence still ongoing
today: ditto

80's: High tech becoming more dominant at work, at home and in media, especially PCs and Internet
today: ditto (genetics and nano tech coming up)

80's: Neon
today: LED

>>58577092
>today: ditto (genetics and nano tech coming up)
Advances in genetics led to the first trangenic crops, which Monsanto took the advantage. The Reagan administration helped in unlocking the beast, but one particular man was key in the "deregulation" of what ended as food, guess who ;^)

>>58576000
>Le anti-capitalism meme

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So what is cyber fashion based on? Leather/Lycra/latex?

Cybergoth apparently doesn't work unless neon colours and goggles.

>>58577515
>Le pro-capitalism meme

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>>58577918
Synthetic fibers, or just reconstructed cloths. I dig the latter.

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You made me go in a frenzy looking for inspo, goddamit.

Willing to stick out like a sore thumb does not make you a cyberpunk.
Hide tracks, work in the shadows because touting yourself as not part of the norm is easiest way to get exposed, countered and dealt with.
Do not wear tech wear for the sake of future enactment, but because others are wearing it too. Learn to hide.

>>58578931
Good advice tbqjfam.

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reminder that people are literally shoving tech under their skin for funsies.

>>58579087
I'm okay with that.

By the way, where is Lepht? She promised a document with details on her new project.

>>58579087
>tech
>a couple of leds

primitive shit

>>58579129
> By the way, where is Lepht?

I really wish I knew. She's cool as fuck but just kinda dropped off the map.

>>58579144
miniaturizing the circadia and finding good processes for manufacturing a bioproof coating is not trivial. Look past the LEDs, they're just a simple test case.

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>>58551514
Lain isn't shit :(

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>>58579087
I really don't see the point if it doesnt serve a purpose. Now, imagine removing the extra plastic from one of these, make modified contact pads, so that one can 'touch' and connect to a USB port. This to me seems more practical.

>>58579087
>Risking a fucking hand for that

>>58566951
There isn't one.

Closest you're going to get is debian stable with grsec, selinux, ossec, periodic rkhunter checks, and if you're super paranoid maybe lmd/clamd.

Also you will need these iptables rules

iptables -F
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -j DROP

in that order, and make sure it re-runs that every time you reboot.

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In all honesty, cyberpunk fashion should become a trend, and is not hard at all.

Has anyone thought about adapting 3D printers to create clothing in some way? Pretty fucking cheap, an article about this http://www.ecouterre.com/electroloom-builds-the-worlds-first-desktop-3d-printer-for-clothes/

Another article on cyberpunk fashion
https://www.neondystopia.com/cyberpunk-fashion-lifestyle/get-cyberpunk-clothing/

>>58579439
Iptables persistent is easier + you can just say iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT and remove -s 127.0.0.0/8.
ossec is pretty meh desu need entire SIEM to actually get a good idea whats going on.

>>58579358
>I really don't see the point if it doesnt serve a purpose.

The purpose is testing the ability to get a working computer under the skin safely. Yes what you've listed is more useful, but is more complex and has a higher chance of failure and it would be much harder to debug. One must know how to walk before they can run.

After all, someone has to test this stuff.

>>58580144
this guy gets it

>>58573971
>Techwear uses technical fabrics that help repel/block water, wick moisture, let air breathe, and look cool as shit
Is that literally all techwear is? We've had that as standard for over two decades in the outdoor clothing industry so why the fuck is it so expensive? Granted, you still have companies like Fjällräven that price gouge the fuck out of their products but there's a spectrum of cheap/decent to expensive/diminishing returns that suit all budgets. Without looking into it, I honestly thought it was clothing with integrated technology or some shit at least.

>>58577918
>So what is cyber fashion based on? Leather/Lycra/latex?
I'm not sure there really is a defined cyberpunk dress sense. Hackers/Engineers/Network Technicians etc. are going to be wearing comfortable and functional clothing.

This is spot on imo:
>>58578931
Cybergoth and all this futuristic looking shit posted so far is just standalone fashion that is maybe influenced by Cyberpunk but doesn't really define it.

>>58578270
I mean, come one, are you gonna look this guy square in the eyes as he tells you he hacked the Gibson and take him seriously?

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So, just doing a bit of digging around on Techwear. $440 for a long sleeve cotton T-Shirt. Holy. Fucking. Shit. You could get similar from Fruit of the Loom for like $20. Seems like similar prices across the board. Fashion followers are absolutely retarded.

>>58581264
nobody but richfags buy basics from brands like ACRNM

I have a DS-HD2 I bought from them for ~$600 something and I love it, worth every cent.

Why is it that the one style of clothing that values practicality above all else is so impractical

it can't just be """"fashun!!""'", so why?

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>>58582308
Time to make our own clothes. Is time fore DIY cyberpunk wear revolution.

>>58582366
most people don't want to learn how to sew, deal with fabrics, stitching and whatnot

short term convenience will always trump long term benefits

Instead, someone should come up with a standard "framework" jacket framed with invisible zippers, or durable zippers hidden under low-key flaps, and then introduce a variety of functional modules (pocket modules of differing lengths and shapes to change sillouette, sleeves of different lengths, etc)

Imagine being able to switch out different styles of pockets (open, linked like a hoodie, zippered, double) and change the bottom sillouette and length (bayani-parka length to crop jacket with no pockets). As long as the zippers are durable (inner buttons can provide another attachment), you could market as the perfect jacket for convenience, seasons, styles, functionality.

>>58543700
GDPR is going to change all this hopefully

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>>58582709
Imagine all that done by an automated 3D printer.

Mfw /cyb/ devolves into /fa/

A couple of threads ago an anon posted an article on hairstyles to avoid facial recognition. I think they were cool enough to go trough naked eye recognition.

>>58578156
>Synthetic fibers
Kevlar, then?

>>58579506

This and most other examples look like rags and other kinds of rather impractical designs. Shouldn't Cyberpunk fashion, more than other kinds of fashion, have utility??

Also, clothes screaming edginess would attract undue interest, stealth is much better.

>>58589704
>utility
Yes

High tech low life

>>58589704
short sleeve hoodies and cargo pants 5ever, cargo clothing in general really.

>>58572430
>Wired used to be OK but now it has taken a deep dive
that's what happens when media gets commercialized

>>58589704
>This and most other examples look like rags and other kinds of rather impractical designs

It is, it's basically le edgy hackerman matrix cosplay

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>tfw born 500 years too early
>tfw no comfy spaceships to chill in while traveling near the speed of light
>tfw i probably wont live to see that day

why live ?

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>>58591516

>>58589704
i'd be up for cargo pants and simple shirts under a stealth cloak

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>>58592401
Perhaps a plausible looking Kevlar bike suit with RF shielding mesh under the surface?

>>58596900
>No shower

>>58591959
Born on the right time to fuck robits

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Have you stood beneath the giant golden/neon sign of your overlord yet?

>>58509647
And now he works for a dictator

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>>58597577
aw, quit yer bitchin
Trump will be the best President since Reagan
maybe even since Teddy Roosevelt

>>58581836
Would you still feel that way if you were straight?

>>58597429
>no shower
Look where you are. It makes perfect sense.

>>58597769
You're like a Bud Light, you're so deluded.

>>58597810
wrong analogy and the word you are looking for is delusional

>>58597810
i thought he was making a play on "diluted" but w/e

>>58596900

Ooooooo

I like this idea. A lot.
Maybe some day I can get an old camper trailer/bus and bury it like this. Living in a semi-rural area like I do has its perks sometimes.