/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Where could I find an ancient beige ATX pizza box case to mod

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>>58494224
What if I'm not a manlet and can't physically build it like that?

>>58494250
cut off someone's legs and glue them to your feet

>>58494250
You know once the 12V ATX main cable is plugged in, everything on the motherboard is grounded to the PSU
Plug the PSU into the wall, and everything is already grounded

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>>58494265
But that'll only make me taller, anon.

>>58494283
your *tables feet, my bad

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>>58494283
>>58494294
like so

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FyFkbj
sandy i3 to ivy i5 because I was tired of seeing it in the closet. Need to finish it so my anime body pillow can play gaems with me.

pop a 7.2k 1tb in it and call it good?

get a ssd/hdd and 16gb ram?

also I have 2x 120 fans in it now, should I just put two more in or get 2x 200mm and use one fan in the side panel?

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>>58494311
You may be onto something there, my dude.

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>>58494345
then you add a power outlet extension thing and add christmas ligh- er, I mean RGB lights on it and bring it to CES 2018, startup your own company

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Constructive Criticism Needed

first time building, don't want to replace anything in a long ass time, $2k tops
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8LTjc
>rate

>>58494876
I assume with that liquid cpu cooler and 750w psu you're going to be OCing? You already have an hdd lying around?

I just finished building my computer and missing a shit load of programs from my old computer like sai, ps6, sony vegas etc.
what torrent sites do you guys use now a'days that don't ooze with sketch?

>>58494938
yes Overclock both GPU, CPU
i have another SSD already

>>58494938
nah, thats just to keep a kaby lake cpu at resonable temps at stock

>>58495039
unfunny

The only difference between different i5 processors of the same generation is minor speed increase, right? there's no clear
"this one is better value for money than this one" answer.

i5 7600 vs 7500 for example

>>58495316
YES AN NO, BUT GENERALLY YES

/CRUISE CONTROL

Would a 600-650w PSU be find eo OCing the 6600K to 4.5Ghz along with the RX 470 in this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7vfzHN

>Consider substituting an i5 for an i7 if you are not a content creator
You mean i7 for an i5?

In case some german anon needs a new gold PSU, the Super Flower Leadex is currently on sale:
https://www.caseking.de/super-flower-leadex-80-plus-gold-netzteil-weiss-650-watt-nesf-036.html

Is there a good video guide on putting a pc together that you guys recommend? I'm scared I'll mess it up.

>>58496542
I always wondered about this everytime I see one of these threads but never bothered to ask.

>>58495832
No, you need at least 850W.

>>58496889
Logicalincrements has some good tutorials, other than that, those """tech youtubers""" have some suprisingly useful vids on that topic.

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>>58495832
>>58497248
>whole thing doesnt even use 300W stock
>somehow OC needs 850W

>>58496889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4

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>>58497268
Please go back, newfag.

>>58496912
>>58496542
if you have the money, an i7 will help stabalize your FPS which reduce FPS drops and lets you play on an higher average graphics setting

but if you want the best bang for your buck get an i5


>>58497287
i've been here longer than you

>>58497287
>>58497295
inb4 "50% load" meme

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>>58497295
>>58497310
>missing the point again

Why can't I boot off of my SSD?
I had W10 installed on my laptop HDD which it's now using to get into my SSD- through Windows Boot Manager. But I can't boot directly off of my SSD. It won't show up in the BIOS list.

>>58497343
>implying you have one

>>58497894
have you tried other cables and the other sata ports?
check your AHCI mode in BIOS.

>>58494420
omfg haha

>>58497978
It can boot off of it through the other HDD- I'm running on it now.
And the BIOS can also see it through force-boot, but it won't boot through that.

Any sales coming up on newegg or anything? about to build an entire pc and need any price cuts I can.

>>58498225
Wait for Zen, there won't be any price cuts anytime soon.

>>58498285
Allow me to interject. What you're referring to as Zen, is actually RY+ZEN, or as I've recently taken to calling it RYZEN.

>>58498334
>current year
>arguing about semantics
Zen, Ryzen, Summit Ridge.. call it whatever you want, AMD doesn't know what to call it themselves.

Building a Pc for gaming and a bit of software development:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pG8Tjc

I am from EU, so prices are all over the place

>>58498693
It's shit. Also from what country?

When I ran Cinebench, I noticed that the the clock speeds of my FX 6300 cores were fluctuating in HWiNFO.

But when I play games nothing like that happens

It passes intelburntest

Should I be concerned?

>>58498732
Denmark.
Why is it shit?

is the corsair crystal series any good? they dont look they have holes for side fan mounting. do the 3 front fans do a good enough job?

>>58498828
Mobo is bare minimum, cooler is trash, no 3000 RAM, SSD is meh, case is probably overpriced where you life and only bronze PSU, although from SeaSonic.

>>58498838
>is the corsair crystal series any good?
Overpriced gaymen meme.
>do the 3 front fans do a good enough job?
If they have decent exhaust yes. Many cases don't have side fans and run cool.

Can someone recommend me a build for 1600$~ with gtx 1080? No ssd/hdd required, I do want an i7 7700k and z270 motherboard if possible

>>58498092
pls

>>58494211
Germany is a shit country for building as most of /eu/ is, parts are expensive as shit.
>tfw actually contemplating a pre-built PC

And with my 700-900€ budget I'll probably get shit at best.

>>58498872
There, better rams: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHHMyf
What is a better suited PSU?
And why would i choose a bigger/better mobo?

>>58499032
why are you buying last generation stuff? kaby lake can hit 5Ghz easy if you have a decent cooler (you should change yours) and its not much more expensive.

use komplett.dk or something instead

>>58499032
Yep, you get shit (on) at best. Thank Mutti Merkel and EU for all the extra taxes.
t. fellow german

>>58499032
>What is a better suited PSU?
SeaSonic G series or EVGA G2/3.
>And why would i choose a bigger/better mobo?
Better OC potential and features if you need them.
Also get rid of that useless Artic Freezer. That thing is ok for locked CPUs but that's it.

>>58499059
>better OC potential
he has a z170 in the list and OC has less to do with mobo these days and more with luck getting decent silicone and a lot to do with heat

>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
why
bad advice and no reason for paying more

>>58499087
Yeah silicon lottery is a problem but even then, a mobo with worse VRM like the one on the MSI will be overall worse than for example the excellent VRM on the UD5.

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>>58499032
this is in SEK just divide by 10 to get € or use google to get danskjävelkronor

>>58499319
>>58499059
New CPU and PSU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MpfzHN
How much noise does the noctua nh d14 generate?
And is there really any benefit to another mobo?
Z270 is not sold in my country.

I dont know if this is the place to ask this, but college has forced me to get a laptop for gayman and rendering, as opposed to a rig. Looking around I found that companies like PCspecialist and I think others offer custom laptops, self-built desktop style. Is this a good option for the bang for the buck, is it reliable, is it good in general? Or should I stick to normal 'prebuilt' laptops?

If prebuilt is the way, how can I sift throught the myriad of option for the best laptops?

>>58499449
>noise
far less than the piece of shit you chose earlier
>not sold in my country
durrrr https://www.komplett.dk/search?q=z270
>And is there really any benefit to another mobo?
https://www.google.com/search?q=z170+vs+z270

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>>58499124
>example the excellent VRM on the UD5.

(different person)
i went with the Gigabyte Z170x UD5 because of all the Mosfets thingys, power phases, and overclocker reviews.

more power phases = cooler power thingys = longer motherboard life span + more efficient & Accurate power delivery to the cpu. = safe stable overclocking for a long time.

>>58499449
noctua is known for being durable and quiet.

>>58499449
>How much noise does the noctua nh d14 generate?
Less than your tilted Intel Stock cooler.
>And is there really any benefit to another mobo?
Yes.
>Z270 is not sold in my country
Just get Skylake, Kaby Lake isn't worth the premium over Skylake in EU.

>>58499568
UD5 makes me wet, but it's too expensive and i don't need the features, but... WANT BUY.

>noctua
Ridiculous prices but absolutely worth it. I'm kinda excited what new arrivals they'll have in 2017.
They've been experimenting with new designs and materials.

>>58499613
>Just get Skylake, Kaby Lake isn't worth the premium over Skylake in EU.
no, wait for (ry)zen and hope intel drops the price on kaby.
kaby OCs far easier than skylake

>>noctua
>Ridiculous prices but absolutely worth it
here in sweden they're not even the most expensive and we barely have half the options as burgerland

I'm the anon that had a problem with the drivers on a Windows 7 installation, but I was able to install a Windows 7 ultimate n edition copy. My problem is upgrading to Windows 10, I can't get it through accessibility because the key that worked with the iso is invalid for some reason, and the Daz loader tells me that it is an unsupported operating system. I was thinking of just installing an inactivated windows 10 and using kmspico to download, but I can't seem to make an install iso without a product key.

>>58499715
>no, wait for (ry)zen
True, Ryzen is our hope, i'm waiting as well.

>and hope intel drops the price on kaby.
>jews
>dropping prices
>ever
Is it nice to live in your dream world? How is it called?

>kaby OCs far easier than skylake
No. It OC's higher, but not easier since it's TIM sucks ass and get hot very easily and reaches 100°C on air @5GHz.
Imho one should replace the TIM for Kaby Lake OC with either liquid metal or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, you can easily get 10-30°C.
Intel had this issue since Ivy Bridge i believe, but Kaby Lake is affected more than Skylake was.

>here in sweden they're not even the most expensive and we barely have half the options as burgerland
So i heard. A friend of mine lived some time in Norway and it's no different there.
Here in Germany we have good availability but horrible prices. 6660K costs like 245€ here, that's just blatant theft by state and EU.

>>58494211
Rate me.
i7 6700
GTX 1070
16GB DDR4 RAM
120GB SSD
1TB HDD


Mostly doing this for memes, most demanding shit I'll play is probably online chess and maybe some CSGO on the weekend lmao.
(I should probably get a 144hz monitor, will this be good enough for vr btw? Might try that out)

>>58499818
only reason they havent dropped prices in the last decade is because AMD havent had a good competitor

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6d8gCy
Making a build for my brother, is this ok?

>>58499454 i dont know anything about laptops, but it sounds like you need a workstation kind of thing.

a desktop variety i7
at least 16gb or ram
an ssd
and whichever gpu you can afford i guess
for faster rendering, smoother experience working within whatever software youre using, faster saving and loading of large files.

>>58500031
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6d8gCy
ram & storage?

>>58500072
FUCK I'm dumb
Just adding them now and i'll post again

>>58500031
for what fucking purpose?
and you know Ryzen is like 1 month away, right? why the fuck would you buy something now?

>>58499454
>but college has forced me to get a laptop for gayman and rendering
lolno, you're just being a bitch

>>58500072
>>58500097
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pv6WKZ
>>58500104
It'll still be ~$300 for that CPU, I'm not made of money

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FTKsvV

can I make it better? +/- 20 dollars top

in time new ssd (2 months top) and 8gb ram more

>>58500158
Pentium G4560 is as good as the i3-6100 and $30 cheaper

>>58500124
>implying they're just releasing one model
>implying intel doesnt have alternatives
yes i can see you're mentally ill, go ahead and buy that extremely outdated architecture and dead socket

>>58500158
z170 mobo, faster ram and decent cooler so you can OC

save up more money if you cant afford it right now, you will be saving money in the long run because you wont have to upgrade as soon.

>>58500104
Nigga, try to haul a desktop in a bike 5km every day to a university for 4 years, then you can call me a bitch all you want.

What's the cheapest build I can make just for internet browsing/video streaming? Including Windows OS price. Is it possible to get sub $200?

>>58500031
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NccDm8
Completed list in case you need it but imho you should wait for Zen, it will release 28.02.

>>58500158
Cheaper RAM, add SSD, get the Deepcool Tesseract case, maybe get $20 cooler if you're noise sensitive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HkLm7h

This is my upgrade package, its going into a Cosmos 1000 with a Geforce980 and storage.

A couple questions
Is there anything I need to do when switching from an amd to intel mobo/cpu?
If I bought a retail version of windows 7 and upgraded, will I be able to switch out the mobo without buying a new license?

>>58500318
buy used

>>58500351
>Geforce980
what

>Is there anything I need to do when switching from an amd to intel mobo/cpu?
format and reinstall

>If I bought a retail version of windows 7 and upgraded
you cant do that now

>will I be able to switch out the mobo without buying a new license
just fucking pirate the version you want

>>58500104
get a cheap ass laptop with decent battery life and a warranty and spend the difference between that and the ROOG STREAX VRRRRR-18xXx360n0_sc0pe

and build a decent box for rendering.

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>>58500444

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you've been a ton of help /pcbg/

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>>58500526
>pleb case
>corsair cx

>>58500526
You might be missing a component m8.

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So the PC I want to build is going to cost me ~$2300.

lol

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>>58500741
Pic related, my desired build.

I'm looking for a good deal on a decent quality 2.5" 256gb SSD. Does anyone know what brands I should look out for? Also I'm in Canada

>>58500741
>>58500813
0/10 absolute dogshit.

>>58500549
they were both free and the 390x was $165. I think its a good start.

>>58500549
>he thinks the CX is bad

in reality it's one of the better bronzes out there and you're paying double for gold you'll never need.

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bye bye old i3, you served me well.

>>58500926
Any constructive criticism or tips to improve it?

>>58500813
basic specs seem fine enough. not going to comment on your peripherals because really that's your choice.

>>58501055
How could I improve it without blowing my budget out even further? The peripherals I've got no problem with changing as I literally just clicked whatever was most popular and I could actually buy in Straya.

>>58501026
Honest advice: If you can't make out your mistakes you're better off buying a prebuilt package that comes with the PC, OS installed and peripherals.

>>58501108
Or you could tell me what mistakes I've made so I can actually learn.

>>58501026
I don't even know the aus market or the current exchange r8 m8. neither does
>>58500926
he just came here to rustle your jimmie

seems decent but I would go ex480 and a freesync monitor and shave the peripherals down some.

>>58501121
Or you could not ask people to spoon feed you and simply do your research or be a good goy and pay the premium for tech illiterates.

>>58501026
looks fine.
you could get faster ram if you wanted.

>>58500990
>it's one of the better bronzes
CX is meh, especially compared to every other corsair psu.
>for gold you'll never need
gold rating is not only about efficiency as long as you buy from a reputable brand

>>58501185
this desu

>>58501198
>>58501055
gtfo

>assrock
>shit cooler
>2400mhz ram
>1TB drive when you can get double for almost same price
>gtx 1060
>no SSD
>paying for windows
>fucktarded overpriced keyboard
>headset AND speakers
>overrated mouse
>meh case

>>58501301
You sound jealous and it appears you're only capable of spouting out shitty memes.

I see little wrong his build. He'll likely be quite pleased with it.

But feel free to take $2,300 AUD and price out something else if you wish.

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>>58501381
>you're just jealous!
go read some reviews

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>>58501434
except it's probably a way better build than you currently own. stay mad.

still waiting on your proposed build for the same budget ballbag

>>58501381
>I see little wrong his build. He'll likely be quite pleased with it.
He'll be pleased with it because he's a retard who knows shit about technology.
If you seriously se nothing wrong with the build you should probably fuck off this board.

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>>58501557
>still posted nothing besides lol assrock and lel shit cooler

>>58501536
>>58501563
if you post a link to the list

>>58501586
see >>58501434

Well I just found out my ssd wasn't a gpt partition to install Windows 10 on, so I have to install it to my hdd and clone it over, but now that makes installing Windows 7 useless because I'll just use kmspico

>>58501014
>i3
>ever serving anyone well

Are Kaby Lake's prices going to drop if Ryzen turns out to be as good as AMD claims, taking into account they were just released? I'm eyeing an i7-7700T for a new low-power build, but it's about 350€ atm. Should I expect that to change soon? The Skylake version, the 6700T has always been around the 300~350€ mark

>>58501861
maybe, just wait and see.

>>58501586
>t. tech illiterate babby

>>58494876
assume you've got monitors?
with that build you're looking to do serious >1080p work

>>58501861

>T chips

I have my doubts AMD will release comparable zen chips day 1 - I would more expect the apu lineup (which comes later) to be the competitor.

>>58502227
if they can compete with intel i7 at all at a lower price it should force intel to cut their prices at least a little

>>58501859
it was fine. still good for an office or shitposting machine.

Any thoughts on this minimalistic-ish build for 1080p / 60fps in esports like overwatch, and maybe 45-50 fps in the more demanding titles? Want it to be budget as possible. Is the i3 going to be too much of a bottleneck?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YdTkbj

Case: Aerocool Aero-800 Mid-Tower
PSU: FSP Fortron Raider S550, 80+ Silver Certification
HDD: Western Digital 1TB Blue, 7200 rpm, 6GB/s SATA, 64MB Cache, 3.5"
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Turbo
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4), DDR4, CL13, 2133MHz
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600k (Quad-core), 3.5GHz, Skylake 1151
Mobo: Gigabyte Z170 GAMING K3

P.S. Should I consider going with another case?
P.P.S. Is this mobo a good mobo? I'm not that sure desu

>bought pee see a month ago with i5 6500
>didn't know kaby lake was gonna be out this month for the same price

should I just kill myself?

>>58502593

You best do your research on that psu - it might be good it might not but its the ONE THING you should never cheap out on.

>>58502639
its the same shit with a bit more clock speed. You aren't missing out on much. Ram and SSD prices are ssd now shit overall, so you're pretty much even. The 6500 should last you quite a while.

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>>58502662
I checked the Italian, the French, the German and the American Amazon, it seems fine.. I think? It's the cheapest Silver 80+ 550W PSU that I could find, and it costs 65 fuckin euros

>>58502559
get an SSD.
you can get 2TB HDD for almost same price.
1050 is trash, get RX470 instead.
dont fucking buy windows, spend the money on better hardware.

and wait for Ryzen before you decide to buy.

>>58502593
link a fucking list (like pcpartpicker) or post image instead with prices, you fucktard

>>58502662
you should research yourself, FSP is good.

>>58502639
no but i hope you learned a lesson to fucking research before you buy

>>58502668
it can OC higher

>>58502706
thats not how you research. read an actual review from hardware sites like johnnyguru

>>58502706

If it reviews well then there is no issue. I was more making a point that far too many anons save dosh by getting an el cheapo psu and then wonder why their shit exploded.

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>>58502737
>amazon reviews

>>58502559
looks good to me for a just needs to play tier.

just ditch that ram and go 1x8 for an upgrade later. dual channel doesn't do much if anything for gaming workloads

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What is a good (and also cheap) 140mm fan to put in the front of this case?

Don't care about looks since it's hidden anyway.

BUILDS FER YIR /v/IDYA

>$905
>i5-7400, 8GB DDR4 @2400, 1070 GTX 8GB, 2TB hybrid drive (8GB of flash)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dVTkbj


>$555 ($545 with likely bullshit mail-in-rebate)
>i3-6100, 8GB DDR4 @2133, RX 470 8GB, 1TB HDD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dJDRqk


If you want an SSD for a boot drive + a few games you can get this for $40-50

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26


>inb4 autism over cases, pick whatever I don't give a single fuck

Also, any thought about this build?

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/mLTkbj

>>58502733
I did some research on FSP on Tom's hardware and it says that it's fine.
It's really hard to find a decent PSU for 60~ bucks.

>>58502785
get 3000-3200mhz ram.
why all those mixed fans?

rest seems fine

>>58502733
SSD is out of budget for the moment. Is the 470 worth the extra $30?

>>58502785
PSU seems a bit expensive, but if you got dem moonies then it's ok.

P.S. Personally, I dislike Gigabyte videocards, so no opinion on that one.

>>58502824
Those 2 nzxt fans come with the case. The other, well, I don't know which to pick, but I don't care about the looks since it will be hidden.

About the RAM, it's the only white RAM I could find for a good price. Is 3000mhz a huge jump from 2666?

>>58502824
2133-2400-2666 -- it doesn't really make any difference. The thing that makes the difference is the CL of the RAM

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I built this about a month ago for younger brother christmas, what does /pcbg/ think?

i5-4460/8GB/1TB/RX460 2GB/TP LINK WIRELESS/ALTA 9 COOLER/COOLER MASTER GX550

It manages ~65c in AIDA64 with a single exhaust fan, near the CPU cooler.

>>58502844
>PSU
Well, it is expensive but it's Gold, and EVGA, which everyone seem to praise for their quality. What would you suggest instead? Assuming I want all black cables.

>Gigabyte
Why do you dislike them?

>>58502859
So, what about the RAM I chose? I don't know much about CL.

>>58502868
>2GB GPU
do you hate your brother?

>>58502785
made cuts to fit a 1080 in the same budget range

up to you.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/R4Lm7h

>>58502868
>for gaming, obviously
>spent money on i5 instead of money for a 8gb 470

for what purpose?

>>58502873
EVGA GQ 650 fits your description but is much cheaper, if it's available in your country. PCPartPicker isn't listing it, but check your favorite retailer.

>>58502902
Yeah, but I have less processing power and it lacks the ability to overclock.

>>58502886
No. I'm not rich though. He only has a 900p monitor I think.

>>58502827
remove the fucking windows license then you tard. and yes the 470 is way better

>>58502844
its not excessive, its a good unit, just a tad overpriced

>>58502848
noctua makes good fans but do you even need it when you already get extra fans?

>>58502859
>ONLY TIMINGS MATTER
lolno. and it does make a difference for some things, and you can get 16GB CL15 3200mhz for around $100

>>58502868
>it can do this temp in some program but i didnt bother testing an actual game
fuck off

>>58502918
upgradability you tard. its easier to replace a gpu than cpu

>>58502918
Cause I got the i5-4460 for NZD$150

>>58502920
Unfortunately, in my country (Italy) it costs 1€ less. Do you think it's worth it? Is it still gold?

>>58502859
arent most of those just listed as "capable" of doing those speeds, and you have to manually overclock them to get those speeds?

>>58502940
>noctua makes good fans but do you even need it when you already get extra fans?
I get 2 120mm fans with the case, 1 in the back and one above. I don't get any fan for intake, that's why I would need the extra one in the front. I figured a 140mm would be enough.

>>58502962
You just set the profile in your UEFI, if the motherboard allows it.

>>58502950
check other gold options

>>58502962
you just just turn on XMP, its not even real OC, just need a mobo that supports the speed.

>>58502965
you get some fans preinstalled in the case, read the specifications

>>58502940
>implying higher Hz make difference in games
>implying there are people in this thread that made a PC NOT for gaming
>implying shit costs the same all over the world

Guess what? 16GB 3200MHz CL15 costs around 40-50 bucks more in Europe.

>>58502994
Yes, I get two. But as I said, I would like a 140mm for intake.

>>58503017
it can make a difference if you are using a pleb tier APU

>>58503017
i remember seeing some test where it gave 5-10% better result in games

>>58502994
>check other gold options
You think 550W is not enough?

>>58503051
thats not what i said you fucktard

gold is efficiency rating, has fucking nothing to do with the wattage

>>58503048
>5-10% better performance in games
Stratospheric numbers. Never seen a test in which 3200MHz RAM outperformed 2133MHz RAM by more than 3%.

>>58494946
Around /g/? Private trackers.

>>58503061
I fucking know that, but you linked a 650W before. They have the same efficiency, and I was wondering if there was some reason I should get that instead of a 550W. I know they're made by different manufactorers, that's why I was asking.

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>>58503048
PROOFS?

>>58503112
>implying samefag

550W is more than fine, doesnt matter if you get more as long as its the same quality and efficiency. read a hardware review.

>>58503168
Funny thing is, they both have amazing reviews.

>>58503190
get the cheaper one then, just remember there might be other options (read: other brands)

>>58503156
Not him but if it's about 2133 RAM vs 3000/3200 RAM it's true, it will improve FPS, especially on CPU heavy games.
Isn't the biggest improvement, though, so nothing dramatic.

>>58503206
Thank you.

Any suggestion about a good 140mm fan for intake?

>>58503232
cant really beat noctua quality, but you do pay a little bit more for the name, but you get good warranty.

>>58503291
Noctua NF A14 ULN it is, then. Thank you.

>>58503232
>>58503291
>>58503387
NF-A14 is great though i wouldn't recommend using ULN for standard builds, Noctuas already run rather quiet.
A cheaper alternative is the Be Quiet! Pure Wings 2.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ngGZqk

As some have suggested I post a link to a parts-list instead.
So, is it good?

>>58503442
It's shit.
Jesus Christ, is today the day of tech illiterates?

>>58503412
Yeah, but I thought that since it's going in the front the noise would be more important.

I can buy a NF-A14 for 15.89€, while the Pure Wings 2 140mm comes at 11€. Do you think the price difference is worth it?

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>>58503485
Not listening to the ones that don't provide any constructive criticism, gtfo

>>58503442
For that price range I would suggest a RX 480.

>>58503515
Pure Wings are cheaper in EU. Well, both are good and quiet. If you have the money go for Noctuas, if you want to save go for Wings, both are fine, really.
How are prices for Piranhas or Noiseblockers where you live?

>>58503529
>spoon feed me please i am tech illiterate
No. Pay for the prebuilt like any other tech illiterate retard.

>>58503559
Why would I ever want an AMD card goddamn it? 1060 performs better in 90% of games, sure, it has 2GB less VRAM, but there are no games that actually require more than 4/6GB, even w/ ultras set. Where's your logic?

>>58503608
>Calling others computer-illiterates
I'm 100% sure you typed that from a pre-built machine, you fuckin faggot.

>>58503661
True, laptops are all prebuilt.

>>58503688
See.
Just as I thought, faggot.

>>58503632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiYQqNiqQKU

It's only going to worse for the 1060.

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>>58503608
>How are prices for Piranhas or Noiseblockers where you live?
No Piranha fans in Italian Amazon. There are a few Noiseblocker models, though.

>>58503701
>he carries with big tower on a travel
Autism.

>>58503721
Lmao at the prices, get Noctua or Pure Wings.

>>58495316
There was a clear best value i5 of skylake and it was a 6500 with a Z170 overclocked

>>58503770
>Lmao at the prices
Yeah, indeed. Thanks for help!

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Help me out here. I recently ordered an optiplex 790 for tf2. I plan on installing 8gb of RAM, and the optiplex has 4gb RAM already. Should I remove the 4gb and add the 8gb, or keep the 4gb in and add the 8gb? New to this so I don't know much.

>>58497295
Yep i7 stabalizes fps confirmed
Thanks for bestowing on us your knowledge o great one

>>58498225
Keep an eye out, sales go on and off for different items all the time
I found better deals on each part of my PC during the two months leading up to Black Friday than I saw in the ads

>>58503718
> AMD outperformed nVidia only in some titles, like Hitman and.. what was it? Tom Clancy's? Yeah, still 3 fps in TC and 15 fps in Hitman
> B-but m-muh AMD!!!
> n-nVidia SUCKZ!

Spare me from the cringe, fanboy. I'm not a fan of either cards/companies, but 1060 outperforms 480, it's a fact.

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>>58499818
>he fell for the meme
Try googling, tard

>>58500990
No it's actually confirmed as poor quality, even for bronze

>>58501381
>jealous
>people legitimately suggesting $3000 builds to people
Assuming we're all wagecucks here, a gaymen PC is doable for basically anybody, when we look at 6950x's we don day wow I wish I could afford that, we pull out the truth, call it a 6700k with extra cores and the same single thread performance and shit on it
If /g/ is shitting on your build, it's because of brandwhoring or reviewwhoring, never about money

>>58496889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCxNE6jzYcE

>>58502859
Are you fucking retarded?
You have it backwards, frequency is WAY more important that latency, but both tend to go up proportionally. Frequency matters much more though

>>58503017
16GB 3000mhz ram was $50-60 total
Sorry you live in a third world taxed shibboleth but in the real market were you don't have pawn shop hardware selections you should buy the faster ram because it is objectively better,
No matter how many Viking taxes you impose

>>58503103
I saw one outperformed by 5% going from 2133-4000mhz
And don't forget that the biggest point is that 2133mhz is now the minimum, that's already fast compared to the rest of desktop computing

>>58494226
Your local pawn shop, goodwill, or salvation army. You'd be surprised at what you will find and how cheap it is because normally the people selling it don't know what they have

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>>58503828
I look at them as reasonably equal cards from different manufacturers
>tfw haven't had to change my opinion to comply with reviews

>>58503858
Your shitty 9gay meme is perfect for you cringy shit post.

>>58503935
I've seen DDR3 1866 CL10 RAM outperforming by far the DDR4s w/ 2400/2666+ CL15, so no, you're the retarded one here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA

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>>58504016
#rekt
>mfw
Kek
Housefire lol

>>58504022
Actually all ddr3 performs better than ddr4 clock per clock, the only advantage of ddr4 is that you can make the frequency an absurd number, higher than any watercooled ddr3 could hope to achieve
And on the same voltage as stock
That's why ddr4 is impressive
Not that latency even mattered back then

>>58504022
And I've seen 1600mhz CAS 12 lose pathetically to 4200mhz CAS 17, your point is?

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>>58504024
Yeah right, Intel shill. Kaby Lake doesn't have shit temps and Intel isn't using shit TIM since Ivy bridge.
Rope yourself you nigger kike.
>#rekt
>>>/9gay/

>>58504022
>>58504044
>>58504062
One CAS latency is equivalent to one extra Hz of delay
The frequency divided by the CAS latency is roughly the relative speed compared to other ram
Ddr4 has both higher latency and frequency than ddr3
You do the math

>>58504083
Did you google yet?

>>58504004
480 might be better than 1050, or even 1050ti, but 1060 is just from another category. While the 1060 is in the upper mid-range of graphics cards, 480 is simply somewhere in the middle (like, middle-middle). It outperforms 1060 only in certain titles and almost always only in DX12 (though gtx somehow manages to perform better than rx in certain titles even when it has dx11, while the other card has dx12).

pros of 480 are:
+cheap
+2GBs more
+/-performs better in dx12, but not always
cons are:
-sucks in dx11
-sucks in major titles (1060s generally have 5+ more fps compared to the 480)
-470 is almost 40 bucks cheaper and only 10% slower

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>>58504156
Yeah, the AMD cards do better in and games and the nvidia cards do better in nvidia games. Overall neither of them stretches past 5% performance of the other and you can find both for the same price
Not a single benchmark in existence shows either the 480 or the 1060 as being definitively "better" than the other without throwing your game of preference into the mix
Your adaptive sync monitor should have a bigger influence than the 1060/480 wars that have been going on (with the exact same arguments) since they've been released
They're essentially equal, sorry you didn't have the objectivity to see that from the start

>>58504156
Both cards can run both APIs you dipshit
It's not about a gpu "having an API"
Stop posting you're embarrassing yourself

>>58504154
Already read multiple articles during the week.
Kaby Lake easily hits 100°C @5GHz on air which is plain fucking retarded.
Seems like it's you who needs to read up on what jewish trash Kaby Lake is.

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>>58504203
The thing is, "the AMD cards do better in and games and the nvidia cards do better in nvidia games" is an objectively valid statement, though the reality is: there are simply more "nVidia" titles.

>>58504239
Is that the "100° at the exact same overclock as a 6700k!" Article?

>>58504239
This is as false as false can get, the only major difference between the 2 is Kaby's higher base clock.

>>58504256
And overall neither of them falls behind 5% performance too
I don't know, I only have one nvidia game (witcher) and one AMD game (Dirt rally) all the other games don't have GPU brands attached to them and run fine. Except Microsoft games but that's a whole different problem

>>58504308
I mostly play "nVidia" games, there's no sense in buying myself an rx480

>>58504357
What games? Like I said I've only seen one, and for that matter Witcher is the lowest fps game I own

Subsituting an i5 6500 for the 6400 is fine if I can get it for way cheaper right? I was about to get the 6500 for £190 off Amazon but I can get the 6400 used (with 3 yr warranty) for £125. No brainer right?

>>58504398
The Witcher, Far Cry, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, GTA and Battlefront.

>>58504261
No and this retarded questions tells me you didn't even read a single article on that topic.
It's already late kid, go browse 9gay for another 10 minutes before you go to bed.

>>58504305
It's not false, it's true that Kaby Lake runs stupidly hot if OC'd at like 5GHz.
Main cause seems to be, as i said, the shit TIM, by replacing it you can significantly improve temps.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QV3Tjc

Budget of around $800. Not sure if I should go with the 750 or a 6400, its not that big of a price difference here in the states - Jet has 7500 for $175.

Anything I should change about it?

>>58504481
Only two of those games are nvidia sponsored
I'm not gonna tell you what not to buy (except don't fucking buy the 3Gb 1060), but really they're about equal performance and you should just get the cheaper one
Or get a 1070 and don't worry about it

>>58504470
Base 6400 -- 2.7 and 3.3 on turbo;
Base 6500 -- 3.2 and 3.6 on turbo..
Now, they usually cost around the same (though 6500 is MUCH better in my opinion), but if it's 65 pounds less than ok... well, I dunno if it's ok for YOU, depends on what you need it for

>>58504550
Really? My cousin has been spitting on his rx for performing slow in Battlefront.. that's strange..
Well, whatever.

1070s are extremely overpriced in Italy, so I think I'll just upgrade in the future, when I need to. 1060 seems to handle 1080p 60fps gaming on ultras just fine.

>>58504543
How about neither? Go with the 6500.
Also get cheaper RAM, maybe cheaper mobo (H110 is fine), def a different GPU, PowerColor sucks ass and a cheaper case.

>>58504583

I should have also pointed out I have a motherboard (Gigabyte z170 Gaming K3) that can OC the 6400 to 4.4ghz with no problems. I will be doing that.

>>58504732
Shit my bad dude that was an old one. Any rec on RAM, thats the cheapest im seeing it for?

should I get Gigabyte AORUS GA-Z270X-Gaming 5 or a cheaper alternative?

>>58504984
Just get the cheapest 2133 kit you can find, there aren't any brands to avoid anymore, they're all gone.

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is the 2 fan gigabyte GTX 1070 good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875


if not please don't just say no, tell me why

>>58500549
>he doesn't use the original maymay
>he uses memes from shitty children's movies

>>58505068
Depends on your needs. Probably cheaper

>>58504947
BLCK OC sucks, you'll lose too many features

>>58504640
There's some other problem, like his CPU or old drivers

>>58504543
Looks good

>>58504470
Get the 6500

>>58503799
Just get 4GB of the same speed
Also you'll need a gfx card like the 1050

>>58503442
Need 240GB SSD and 3000MHz RAM

>>58505435
Its ok. The 1070s are pretty generic. No one card is better than the other and they all overclock about the same.
Should be ok, but thermals might be a bit higher than the 3 fan G1.

I was thinking about getting evga 1080 so that I can upgrade to 1080 ti but I'm afraid it won't come out within 90 days (for the step up program), should I wait about a month to be sure?

>>58505435
no, tell me why

Are EVGA graphic cards still overheating terribly?

>>58505435
I have it and got 2.1Ghz

>>58505778
Yeah, wait for a fairly certain release date

>>58505778
980ti has a step up program too

>>58505811
They're putting thermal pads on new stock FTW 1070/1080's whether or not that means it can't overheat is up to you

>>58505811
>>58506016
There's also still a chance of getting an "old" 1070/1080 withou applied thermal pads.
Imho EVGA 1070/1080 should be avoided but EVGA is still a good company, though.

>>58506016
Oh well, has it been discovered if that fixes the problem?
And is there a way to know that the EVGA one might be buying has the new thermal pads applied?

>>58506095
>>58506161
You can get free thermal pads from evga if you contact them and ask
"Fixes" is a strange word here because they only caught fire when subject to extreme loads and benchmarks, buy thermal pads will help cool the VRMs, which is what caught fire

>>58506258
Sure, but imho no one should buy 10070/1080 because the provided solution is suboptimal and the fact that this even is an issue shows a major flaw in EVGAs design which must not be rewarded by buying their products.
Hopefully they have learned from this and will make better 11xx series cards and also Vega cards, since EVGA is going to manufactur AMD cards for the first time ever.

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>>58506336
I totally agree, but the guy was asking about getting evga cards. They're still good performers like usual, but yeah, one big fuckup per generation is the limit

>>58506336
>also Vega cards, since EVGA is going to manufactur AMD cards for the first time ever.
No they're not
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-partnering-with-amd-for-vega-rumor-gets-debunked-fast-real.html
Even EVGA knows that AMD and Vega is DOA

>>58506336
>>58506556
>editor-created unreleased production rumor from Indian product review website taken as fact
Never change, /g/

>>58506556
Or not.. there's just way to much everything on Ryzen and Vega on the web. AMD's marketing should get their shit together.
>Even EVGA knows that AMD and Vega is DOA
No. From what we've seen so far Vega could be a good alternative to the 1070/1080 cards. Everything else is pure speculation.

>>58506630
>AMD's marketing should get their shit together.
Maybe you should stop reading fake news from that poo-in-loo site
>From what we've seen so far Vega could be a good alternative to the 1070/1080 cards
Yeeh, you really need to stay away from WCCurrytech

>>58506614
>>58506671
>never change
Yeah.. you autists will never change.
I've read this on multiple sites and haven't read any update on this topic since then, i simply wasn't up-to-date on this, sue me.

>From what we've seen so far Vega could be a good alternative to the 1070/1080 cards
>Yeeh, you really need to stay away from WCCurrytech
It was actually from some reddit post some anon posted here a few days ago.
The benchmark was i7-6900 + 1080 VS Zen (probably 8C/16T) + Vega (unknown) and AMD was generally 5-10 FPS behind.
Considering the Vega card was only 5-10 FPS behind the 1080 it should easily beat the 1070. Although no info on %load and temps of the system given.
Nevertheless, this is a good result considering AMD will likely launch the products cheaper than both Intel and Nvidia.

>>58506671
Doom is well-optimized game and a horrible comparison, but unfinished vega matches 1070/1080 tier performance live
AMD goes poo in the CPU, Radeon video cards are still worthy and competitive

>>58505618
>BLCK OC sucks, you'll lose too many features

Like what?

>>58506723
>Nevertheless, this is a good result considering AMD will likely launch the products cheaper than both Intel and Nvidia.
Again, stop reading fake news. AMD's own CEO stated that they will no longer be the "budget" option in the consumer market and will make strides towards premium pricing
>“The idea that AMD is a cheap solution has to be replaced with the idea that AMD is a very competitive solution,”
>"We have reduced our low-end PC exposure. When you look at AMD's historical business, we were very, very heavily concentrated in consumer, low end PCs, that was actually our speciality. However, when you look at that market, there has been so much volatility, especially at the intersection between tablets and PCs and differentiation hasn't been there... very clearly, we are an x86 company. We have tremendous x86 heritage, and opportunity to lead in that area. We are absolutely going to invest in high-performance x86."
>"It can't just be that we're the cheaper solution"

>>58506797
>((((((((FAKE NEWS))))))))
Thanks for correcting the record, Mr. Shekelberg!

>will no longer be the "budget" option in the consumer market and will make strides towards premium pricing
Never said nor implied this, stop arguing against a straw man you illiterate fuck.
Point is, the cheapest 1080 goes for $580, if Vega will really be competitive and if AMD places the card for like $499 it's a good option.

I can't boot W10 off of my SSD.
My BIOS boot order can't even detect my SSD.
What do?

I'm currently running W10 off my SSD but I had to go through my HDD which has Windows Boot Manager.
No-one and nowhere I've asked has been able to provide a solution to this.

>>58506797
>stop reading fake news
Good job with helping to make that term meaningless

>>58506755
Low power states

>>58506902
>if Vega will really be competitive and if AMD places the card for like $499 it's a good option.
Don't tell me that you actually believe in this bullshit
Vega 10 will cost at LEAST $600 (and this is if AMD is fine with selling at a minor loss as with Fury X) and possibly more due to its sheer size and the technology involved. HBM2 is still nowhere near as cheap as GDDR5X and the interposer it needs drives up costs substantially.

>>58506954
What mobo?

Create a USB Win10 install stick, backup your data, remove the HDD to force the system to find the SSD, format the SSD, and reinstall Win10.

>>58506983
>Vega 10 will cost at LEAST $600
Citation needed.

>>58506987
Gigabyte SH2
I removed the SATA cable of the HDD and it wouldn't boot into the SSD. Even when I go through boot override (whereby it can find the SSD) it won't boot from it.

post your builds

>>58507039
Start from scratch like I said here >>58506987
Boot from install USB while only having SSD connected

>I7 4790 3.60Ghz
>GTX 1060 6gb
>24Go of RAM

>Screen is full HD 24inches 60hz Samsung S24B300HL (should I upgrade to higher resolution?)

I use my PC for gaming, rendering 3D scenes with a gpu based renderer, and video editing.
I'm thinking about upgrading my monitor to a higher resolution for gaming, and maybe getting another gpu in SLI for rendering with Octane in C4D. What should I do? Screen prices are still pretty high for 1440p and SLI scares me (so much people saying it's shit on internet)

or should I go with 4K monitor directly?

>>58507173
You can but the 1060 is weak for at 1440p for new games. The 1060 cannot SLI.

>>58507206
Probably not. Personally I'd wait for an HDR OLED >100Hz 27" 1440p Adaptive sync monitor

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>ugly red LED Evo 212 fan is on sale for $29.99 on Amazon
There's no difference to the regular EVO right?

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>>58507248
Don't you know about them red LEDs?

>>58507276
Just wondering since I heard the 212 EVO was good. I don't care about the gay LED's

>>58507380
>Just wondering since I heard the 212 EVO was good
Standard EVO usually goes for $29.99, why bother with the LED version on sale?

guys, imma build a new rig, r8 the hardware pl0x :3

NZXT Source S340 Elite
ASUS X99-Deluxe II
i7 5820K
EVGA 1080 FTW Hybrid
Corsair Hydro Series 110i
not sure about powersupply, but something around 1000 watts
Corsair Dominator Pro 2400 mhz cl10 4x8gb ddr4

going for a white/black theme :3

expensive mobo for future compability etc.

>>58507470
you forgot to add minimum 4x10TB SSDs m8

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What Z170 series motherboard should I get if I want to eventually use 2 ssd's in raid0 with two separate 1tb drives to function as two separate backups. SLI compatible, hopefully both ssd's will be m2. Pic related?

>>58507529
Just going for Samsung m.2 SSD 256 gb as my OS and bootdrive and HDD 2TB for music, games and work

no need to be sarcastic, surely u must realise I do not jest

>>58507450
It's stayed 35 on Amazon for over a month and the LED version is cheaper

>>58507470
>1000 watts
No one needs that much.

>>58507610
I figured to, but according to one user his system was spending so much that it sometimes failed on a 850 watts powersupply

Now that could be because he did some serious OC or had alot of shit in his PCi slots, dunno, but would u suggest a EVGA 850 watts supply will suffice, and give me headroom for small incremental OC in the future and running XMP ?

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MOBO: Asus P8Z77-V LK
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
GPU: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Armor)
RAM: Ripjaws X G.Skill 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
PSU: Antec Earthwatts EA 750w Green
DRIVES: 111GB Boot SSD / 931GB Storage HDD
LIGHTING: NZXT Hue+
CHASSIS: Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case (White)
> Canada // Web, Gaming, Editing

I'm looking to improve the design and aesthetic of my build but want to minimize the damage to the wallet. I've been told by multiple people that with my current setup it just isn't the time to upgrade my motherboard, processor, RAM or SSD yet so I'm trying to get solid components that set me up for future upgrades and look good. Right now I have a few plans and would enjoy some opinions:

- Another 8GB of the same RAM I currently have and give them a custom white paint job
- Self contained CPU watercooling unit w/ 2 fans to attach to top of case
- Modular PSU + Cablemod (White, Black or Blue)

The RAM is because I have been having usage issues, but the red on my cards just doesn't work aesthetically. In terms of cooling, I don't think I can justify dropping what looks like $400+ (?) on a full watercooling system with coloured liquid unless someone can convince me otherwise, because I do like how they look but for that kind of money I'd want it to last a very long time. Also I have a couple different PSU's that I'm looking at and I am leaning towards just getting a higher end one, but I don't want to drop some dime on something that may have compatibility issues with future MOBOs?

Anyone have any thoughts?

http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-x-8gb-2x4gb-50-58519.htm (RAM)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=DH8888119702 (Watercooling)
http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-ax760-760w-atx-12v-77-77639.htm?promoid=1120 (PSU 1)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817139142 (PSU 2)
http://www.ncix.com/detail/cablemod-c-series-axi-hxi-0e-106698.htm (Cable Mod - Might get a blue/black)

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Ok so I flooded in the Louisana floods back in August and have been without technology greater than a phone for most of that time. I made this list sometime in september and mainly want to know if all these parts are still good ones to be going for months later.

If so I'll be ordering in a few days because insurance finally went. I will probably try to find equivalent stuff at amazon or newegg for those that part picker chose oddball vendors for since I have prime and newegg does me well. Budget is ~2k for pc and while there is a monitor on this list I'm still not 100% if I'll be getting that one or not. Whatever monitor I do get I plan to get two of eventually though maybe not right away since I'll be living in a fema trailer for a few months while my home is rebuilt and those things are tiny.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LyGN6X

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/#incompatibilities

Anything I should edit before I start buying the parts?

Looking to play 4k and work a lot on Adobe programs. Mainly Photoshop and Illustrator.

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>>58507747
>living in a flood zone

>>58507747
Get 3000MHz RAM
Get a Gsync monitor

>>58507814
I actually wasn't in a flood zone. The floods were that bad. About 4-5 feet higher than ever recorded in louisiana. My house got 6.5 feet when the previous record flood only got a foot in it back in like the 60s

whats a decent hard drive?
i havent bought one in a few years and my music drive is really acting up. its a wd green and shits making noises like crazy

>>58494211
Jesus the memories.

I worked tech support for emachines when the company first started in the US. Was a new hire trainer, wrote NPI for techs, and was the internal helpdesk supervisor. Our call times were something like 6 minutes because every single one was just "send it back".

The best part was being able to track RMAs by serial number and watching the warehouse take out "bad" systems, power them on, put them in a box, and send them back to a different customer as a replacement without testing anything.

Had a pretty sweet Quake setup in the training room though.

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>>58507916
>mfw I work as IT-support at my university
>mfw my university uses 180 different systems and programs
>mfw I work at the internal help desk service

>>58507831
>Get a Gsync monitor
I don't want to pay $700 for 1440

why overclock instead of buying more expensive parts?

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>>58507884
The whole southern and central part of the state is a flood zone. And enjoy your sinkholes.

>>58508037
Because then you don't have to buy more expensive parts. Also you can tell all your female friends that you're a 1337 overclocker.

>>58507694

>>58507931
You don't even know the half of it. There was a time when the company had bought a fuckton of bad ram, knew about it, put it in the machines, and sold them.

We literally got information ahead of time that "serial number x to serial number x" is an automatic order to send the client a stick of ram. Ground shipping. And if you don't want to install it yourself you have to pay to send it back so someone can do it. So essentially tens of thousands of customers bought a known broken system, and even if they were comfortable replacing the ram, had to wait at least a week to use it.

Or the time they stopped letting us reseat video cards and modems because to do so would require us to break the "warranty voided" seal on the back of the box which would cause the warehouse (who didn't have access to ANY of our support documentation) to send it back untouched at the owner's expense cause they obviously fucked it up by opening the case as we told them to.

If you get skylake can you use W7 still?

>>58501381
freesync ultrawide, 480 gtr, locked i5 on a understated b250, 16GB 2400 ram, 550gb of ssd in raid 0 with a 2TB storage/backup drive and a modular psu. no gimmicky shit.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8VbP7h
pick whatever you want to put it in and interface with, the rest is just personal taste.

>>58503632
berforms <10% better in 90% of games

can get a freesync monitor for <$200

if you are building from scratch, 480 every time if you already have a monitor you aren't going to upgrade soon its preference.

>>58507975
You are too poor for 1440p then

>>58508146
Yes

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>>58508052

but what about for something like this?

i don't want to overclock because i want a silent build that can still run anything

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>>58508251

compared to this

>>58507694

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I think I've made the perfect build /g/, tell me what you think.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMt2zM

>>58508444
why are you putting a meme micro atx in a normal ATX case??

at lease get a tiny case if you want that shit

>>58508457
Its cheaper than every ATX board on the site, and has identical specs to the cheapest ATX but it has a sata express

>>58508268

anyone?

>>58508914
If you dont want to overclock than dont get the z150i, the z in the name means it has a chipset designed for overclocking

>>58508963

z150i? which one?

in reference to the first post or the second?

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>>58508494
>>58508444
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rt9Myf
I would not pay the premium for the STRIX edition GPU over another dual-fan design which just happens to also be made by ASUS. For only ~$75 dollars more you can get squeeze in the 7600K which will hit ~5Ghz fairly easily according to review without resorting to massive cooling solutions. That will greatly extend the usable life of your system for gaming and in general.

Also saved you a few dollars on your RAM kit.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R3NMyf

Want to build a new computer. I play arma 3 and pray this will be able to handle it as well as any other game that I might want to play or games that come out in the next couple of years. Can you guys look it over and provide some suggestions or concerns?

>>58509119

that build will be able to play every game at 60fps on max settings

although if you're in it for gaming, you should switch from the KL i7 to the KL i5. i7 is more for video editing.

>>58509043
I was talking about the motherboard in
>>58508251
compared to
>>58508268

>>58509043
The build in >>58508268 is closer to what you might by omitting the K-series CPU & Z-series motherboard. Also since you do not want to overclock you can also skip the CPU cooler as the non-K CPUs ship with a stock that works fine.

That SSD, even though it uses the M.2 form factor, still utilizes the SATA III interface which caps it's speed performance. Therefore you need not pay a premium for it. It works out to $0.238/GB, while this 750GB version comes in at only $0.227/GB:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/NLs8TW/crucial-mx300-750gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct750mx300ssd1

Why did you pick that 1x16GB RAM kit when 2x8GB kits like this are significantly cheaper?:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/h4s8TW/avexir-memory-avd4uz124001608g2cor

>>58509092
I don't plan on overclocking my cpu, but what else can I do to extend the life of my PC? Should I get an i5 7500?

>>58509337

the case, while being very modular, is also bad for airflow. the cpu cooler is to provide some good flow for the cpu and the gpu

SSD is M.2 but on that mobo it fixes on the back, so it helps aesthetics

and the 1x16GB is just in case i want to go crazy and bump it up to 32GB one day

Can I use this to emulate an XBone?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FB476X

>>58509340
>the case, while being very modular, is also bad for airflow. the cpu cooler is to provide some good flow for the cpu and the gpu
>SSD is M.2 but on that mobo it fixes on the back, so it helps aesthetics
>and the 1x16GB is just in case i want to go crazy and bump it up to 32GB one day
Alright then.

>>58509340
All the motherboard vendors these days include easy/safe auto-OC speed profiles which they validate themselves before shipping products (since they get CPU samples before anyone else directly from Intel to do validation on their board designs) that you are able to switch on/off in the UEFI or from Windows using software that they typically include so you don't have to muck with motoring vcores, temps, and running instances of Prime95 for days on end to stability test. That'll get you to 70-85% of the headroom of whatever your CPU would have it that you could achieve manually.

So OC'ing is not a big deal.

That said i would suggest the 7500 if you must buy a non-K CPU.

>>58507694
>>58507694
>>58507694
>>58507694

>>58509442
>emulate an XBone?
Theres no emulator that can emulate a fucking original xbox properly, what makes you think you can emulate an Xbone? May as well just buy an Xbone at that price anyway.

>>58509518

put it together in pcpartpicker

>>58509592
Fuck off you cockhungry cunt
>eight light cores with out-of-order execution
>same number of CUs for the GPU
>similar RAM size (no real way to emulate its EDRAM)
>exact same hard drive

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>>58509674
How exactly are you planning to emulate it? Are you going to write your own software? Also;

>hurr durr imma spend 650$ to emulate a 300$ console

>>58509721
Nah, it was just a thought experiment given how similar they are on paper. Get fucked by a gang of roving niggers.

New thread:
>>58509785

>>58509792
>>58509793
>literally one second between each post
follow the rule of thumb of using the earlier one

>>58509752
>it was just a thought experiment
Then you should have mentioned it earlier you dumb nigger, and no, you wouldn't be able to emulate it. To "emulate" something you need many times more power then the original hardware.

If what your suggesting is running the xbone software/firmware/os directly on that hardware then thats another issue and would probably take a lot of reverse engineering.

It's a retarded idea either way when the original hardware is cheap.

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Hello /pcbg/
Is asrock z170 extreme 4 any good for it's price?
I know it's not top of the line solution, but I'm on a tight budget.

>>58509817
>follow the rule of thumb
You can follow my thumb into your butthole

I7-7700k doesn't work with z170 mobo's right?
Also you have to use windows 10 right?

Its only 20$ more for the kaby lake, but I dont want to buy a 200 dollar mobo too.

>>58510017
Check with the mobo manufacturer, but you can probably flash the BIOS on a Z170 such that it supports Kaby Lake CPUs

>>58509882
I have the Z97 version and it's still running flawlessly.

Asrock boards, and the Extreme4 SKU specifically, is usually the sweet-spot as far as price/VRM design/feature set goes.

At this point for you, I'd get the Z270 version for Out-of-Box Kabylake support as well as since they are the basically retailing for around the same price.
Also looks like the 270 refresh got some minor improvements in the power chokes and capacitors used, better USB 3.1 performance by upgrading the onboard AsMedia controller from the ASM1142 to ASM2142 chip, as well as an additional M.2 slot.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z270%20Extreme4/#Overview
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20Extreme4/

>>58510039
thx senpai

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Which 1070 has the least coil whine?

What is the best budget board brand.
I'm looking at all the reviews on gigabyte motherboards and its nothing but negative shit

>>58510088
>Asrock boards, and the Extreme4 SKU specifically, is usually the sweet-spot as far as price/VRM design/feature set goes.
Will couple of 120mm case fans suffice for VRM cooling (with decent "tower" on CPU of course)?
>At this point for you, I'd get the Z270 version for Out-of-Box Kabylake support as well as since they are the basically retailing for around the same price.
Unfortunately, it's not available in my region, and the cheapest Z270 costs around 180$.
Besides, I'm not find of that new "eye popping" color scheme.
Anyway, thank you.