/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Any suggestions for table or similar microphone? Already happy with my Senn HD202's for headphones, so looking for something nicely priced for bang for buck. Better then shit, but not audioautist tier.

I remember a friend suggesting I buy a used or refurbished snowball off of amazon, but that was years ago. $20-30 looking to spend.

Is there any sigificant difference between the many gtx 1070s?

there are a few below $400USD now, so Im wondering whats so special about the rest.

>>58473726
Not really, different brands use different coolers and make use a PCB with more or less VRMs and such, but the pascal series already runs cool and power delivery has been more than adequate for all the major 1070s
I got a $380 Gigabyte 1070 card and it overclocked to 2.1GHz, stays below 75° during benchmarks

hello /g/, I've come up with a build and i wanna hear everyone's opinion on it before buying it. I don't plan doing any overclocking.
I still haven't picked a monitor, I was thinking something 1080p, 144Hz, about 24'', not too expensive ofcourse.


Anyway, here's what I've come up with:
processor:
Intel CPU Desktop Core i5-6500 (3.2GHz, 6MB,LGA1151)
motherboard:
MSI B150M Mortar (s1151, USB 3.1, SATA III, LAN, DDR4) mATX
RAM:
Crucial DRAM 8GB DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000) CL15 SR
HDD:
WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Blue (3.5", 1TB, 64MB, SATA III-600)
graphics card:
Sapphire RX480 Nitro OC 4GB GDDR5
case:
Fractal Core 2500
PSU:
Fortron Hyper 600W, 80+

balanced?

>>58474315
Looks nice, get an small-medium sized SSD and look into freesync monitors, as I feel like that 480 won't be hitting 144fps very often
Look for a PSU with 80+ bronze at least, I don't know how much yours is but I can image anything quality being more than $10 extra

>>58474315
Is that 2x4 ram or 1x8?
Get 1x8 and remember exactly what model of ram you bought, ITX motherboards only have two ram slots and you don't want to be stuck at 8GB when the demands inevitably increase, you could just get one upgrade stick instead of replacing both stick

>>58474190
>>58473726
Apparently ASUS ROG Strix is the best 1070, and then Gigabyte G1. The Windforce is tempting because it's below $400 and is the coolest, the quietest.

I'm still not sure which of these to get

>>58474378
Get the cheapest, I did and it's outperforming essentially any 1070 on the market right now
Cooling doesn't mean jack shit for pascal anymore, I bet the single slot 1070 would run just as well as the $500 uvergaymenmaximoFTW card
Just gotta win the lottery

>>58474404
And noise can be easily fixed with aftermarket fans if it really bugs you

>>58474378
Gigabyte G1 gaming has a lot of people with bad coil whine issues
My windforce whines maybe 1% of the time, there only two programs I have that make it whine and one of them is a benchmark

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The Asrock Z170 mobo I ordered wasn't in stock for a long time so I changed the order for a Gigabyte one.
Did I fuck up or not? It ended up being a little more expensive (Yurop) and the gaymen design is kinda meh, but it's actually got pretty decent reviews.
All I really care about on a mobo is good VRM and non-shit integrated sound, and it looks like the Gigabyte one is a bit better at both (even though the Asrock has more phases).

>>58474489

I've never had problems with Gigabyte across like 6 different builds. The only thing I can honestly say I don't like is their BIOS layout.

>>58474404
>>58474421
I'm completely new to PC building so I don't know what most of the shit are.

How important is backplate and a third fan? Because the Windforce is missing one fan and backplate compared to the Gigabyte G1.

Are there real world performance difference (affected by those)?

>>58474511
Third fan would make it cooler (which isn't a problem with 1070s), and maybe allow them to run more slowly (quieter)
The backplate is for aesthetics and preventing GPU sag, which only happens after long periods of time and affects nothing

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Here's my current build. Suggestions?

I mainly have two concerns:

Should I upgrade to Kaby Lake (7600k) and a Z270 MoBo?

Also, How do I pick a MoBo and GPU once I've decided on a chipset? What makes a particular Z170 or GTX 1060 better than another?

Thanks for any help.

>>58474536
People here seem to like Windforce

>>58474536
>Should I upgrade to Kaby Lake (7600k) and a Z270 MoBo?
Kaby Lake is a car crash in slow motion, don't bother with CPUs. Motherboards are at least okay and they'll still work with Skylake chips.

>>58474590
Sure, but is there really a reason to use a Z270 over a Z170 if I'm not using Kaby Lake?

>>58474645
no
unless you plan on hopping on Intel Optane memory meme

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>tfw waiting for muh parts
couldn't afford a GPU but will be getting pic related when possible.

how did I do

Do the Vega cards have any chance of coming out in the next 2 months?

I'm already ordering the parts I don't think I can wait any more.

>>58474645
>>58474536

Im using a Z170 board with a Kaby Lake CPU.

this is possible since Kaby and Sky lake are essentially the same. Kaby have a few more features, but for general purpose stuff and gaming there isnt much of a difference. I went with a i5 7600k only because my old computer was from 8ish years ago, with Q6600 cpu. So an extra $20 wasnt a big deal for slight improvements (that i likely wont even notice) over the i5 6600k.

However to use a Kaby lake CPU in z170board you need to first update the motherboards Bios with a Skylake CPU.... without one, a Z170 and Kabylake wont work together.

so if you dont have a skylake chip you have access to, either pay more now for some slight upgrades on kabylake and z270 boards or just stick with skylake z170.

>What makes a particular Z170 or GTX 1060 better than another?
z boards allow overclocking and have more lanes to the cpu so more stuff can be connected to it.
And if you plan to overclock, having more power phases seems to be important

1060 - great for 1080p over 60fps in current games
1070 - 1440p over 60fps in most games
1080 - you hate your money :3

disclaimer: im new, just finished my first build after a billion hours of youtube videos and reviews.

>>58474959
what are you going to play?

ive been watching a lot of Tech Deals on yotube, and you should be fine at 1080p if you turn some settings down, even newer games.

Especially if you are going to play CS:Go or Overwatch... since you can play those things on an Electric Birthday Card.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCss3QxegBkF8BAetIo0qXA?&ab_channel=TechDeals

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thoughts ?

I can get a 1080 for €499, should i get it to replace my og 970 or wait for vega ?

>>58475488
Overwatch and emulators is all I need. Other than that I just do programming.

I'm hoping the IGPU will suffice, at least in lowest settings, until I can get the dedicated card.

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nice video game consoles

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Question since I wouldn't know where else to ask and didn't wanna make a thread.

How often do you guys dust out your PC with cans of air and how often do you do a full pull apart of your PC for cleaning?

I personally do a full blast dusting with my electric duster every 3rd of the month and was debating on doing a yearly pull apart w/ cleaning at the end of the year.

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>>58475505

>>58475638
I would advice against disassembling the PC, things could get fucked or something. Unless it's really really dirty, which would be weird desu

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>Just about ready to start building
>Forgot about ordering a new display cable for this motherboard's video out
>I don't have a GPU to use because I don't play gaymes
>>58475638
I just check the dust filters every few weeks or so and clean them with a hair dryer. Sometimes I check inside my case and wipe around with a paper towel and isopropyl alcohol. I use the hair dryer for the CPU heatsink too.

>>58475857
Do you use dust filters for all your fans?
Debating on putting some on my exhaust fans.

>>58475874
My current build is in a Define R5 and there's only dust filters for the front intakes and the bottom intakes. Kind of a dumb idea to put dust filters on exhaust fans since the dust is being blown out anyway.

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>>58473586

So I think this is the tread to ask. I'm looking to upgrade my shitty ass rig.
But all I know about this stuff is shit I got from youtube.

I got a decent graphic card and power supply about a year ago when they failed, now I'm looking to get a decent CPU, which means new motherboard and new ram.

These are what I'm planning on getting:
>Intel Core i7-6700K (4 GHz, 4 Core, 8 Threads, 8 MB cache, LGA1151 Socket Box)
>MSI Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon, S-1151
>HyperX Fury Black DDR4 2x8GB 2400MHz

As far as I can tell they are all compatible with each other but I'm not entirely sure if they're compatible with the rest of my computer.
Can anyone spot any problem of am I good to just order?

>>58475920
You can get much faster ram with your Z170, 3000mhz is usually a decent price
And how expensive is that motherboard? Don't fall into the idiot-trap of paying $200-400 for a motherboard

>>58475920
Also you'll need a decent cooler if you're running a stock one

>>58474315
look into an SSD man, the difference truly is day and night. imagine booting into windows in a quarter of the time it took me to write this post.
this is the monitor I recently got, its not freesync though it is cheap:
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-GN246HL-Bbid-24-Inch-Display/dp/B00KO4518I

>>58476089
>press power button
>turn on monitor
>booted, at the desktop by the time I sit down
I don't know why people think speed is a meme just because it costs 50% more per anime stored on it

>>58476063
The motherboard is around 150$.
I kind of purposely held back on the ram with the intent on upgrading later on, you think its worth it to go for something better?

>>58476080
Will my current one not suffice?
I assume you mean cpu cooler, I hadn't really thought of that.

>>58476138
No joke, I thought it was just something you can add later as a side at first but it's really fucking good to boot windows from
The only problem is their price tho

>>58476165
what is your current cooler?

>>58476173

Don't think speccy can tell me much more than the fan speed, which is 1695 RPM.
Says Intel E33661-001 on the label. Sounds like a stock fan, I'm guessing that'll be insufficient?

>>58476204
yeah, Intel stock fans are pretty shit. if you're looking for budget, the hyper 212 evo is cheap and effective, albeit with a rather clunky installation process.

how is the PNY GeForce GTX 1070 8GB XLR8?

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>>58476218

That's actually really cheap, it looks pretty clunky though.

Is there any down side of going with something like Cryorig C7 CPU Cooler?
It looks like it'll be much easier to attach and build around while at a similar price.

What should I even be looking at when picking a cooler? RPM, Air-pressure?

>>58476503
That's not a bad one but the tower style coolers are usually better than low profile cooling
Either way just get something that isn't what you have, the stock cooler is loud and just enough cooling for the locked CPUs, to overclock you'll want a better one (but don't spend over $40 on one, you don't need the best cooling to overclock a 6700k nicely anyways)

>>58476503
Something with a replaceable fan would be nice, you just want a big heatsink and quality fan

>>58476503
I'd personally go for a top-down cooler (or C cooler) like that Cryorig. The reason is that pre-Core i Intels had Northbridges that ran pretty hot. A C-cooler would bring additional airflow down around the NB area for a bit more cooling.

>>58476657
Good thing he's getting a Z170 and skylake setup

>>58476662
Oh right, he's upgrading from a Core2. Never mind then.

>>58476555
>>58476561

After looking into is for a bit, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo seems to be the best cooler for its price that has relativity low noise while still having decent RPM which I assume means its the better choice.
It's also pretty slim which is good since the MSI Z170A apparently has a bit tighter clearance than other motherboards to make room for the pointless led thing.

Thanks for the recommendation, pretty sure I know everything I'll be getting now.
Time to start ordering stuff.

>>58475430

Sorry, I'm talking about what makes a particular Z170 board better than another Z170 board.

Like, A Gigabyte Z170 vs. an MSI Z170, or even the different Gigabyte Z170 offerings.

Honest question, why don't I hear more talk about X99 boards. Is it the 2011v3 processors? I feel so alone.

>>58477549
Most people are either too poor to afford them or are just building gaymen PCs.

What's up Knickers

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vs9Y2R

>>58477847
I mean, that'll work...I guess. Okayest build ever.

>>58475430
>Upgrading from Q6600 to 7600

Are you me? I thought I was the only one still running a dinosaur. It held up well ya? Mind posting your build?

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>>58473586
hey /pcbg/ i just pulled this qt out of storage
last time i turned her on was in 94
im seriously thinking about turning it into a sleeper modem day pc
may even try to get a key startup for her

any recommendations?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49hLbj

You guys are faggots

>>58478115
Go ahead and waste your money to win the fight over who is poorer.

>>58478148
Don't give a shit about spending money. My dad is jewish, nigger.

>>58478157
I've obvoiusly been BTFO'd. Let me just BTFO, then.

Look at all this money I'm saving.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pJF9RG

are kabylakes good? i was goona go with i-6500, but im just looking and i should just go with the fresh i-7600

Anyone know any good clean cases for a hackintosh? leaning towards the enthoo envolv but not too sold on it yet

I want a $500-599 rig that I'll be able to upgrade a year or two from now. Does that mean I should get a really nice Mobo now?

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>>58478858
No, just get an i5-6600K and OC to 4.5Ghz like a normal person.

>>58479004
Yes, get a GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-UD3 and you're set to throw all budget shit on that and work your way up.

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>>58478207
Nigga get a G4400 and stop being retarded.
Also, get 2x 4GB Ballistix sport ram instead if you're going budget RAM.

That'll make your build like $20 more but worth it.

>>58479017
Thanks! Is there a go to case for that Mobo?

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>>58479075
If you want something sexy and cheap, get a NZXT s340. I love it so far and it's really spacious, you can fit anything in it.

If price isn't a problem when it comes to cases, get the Elite edition with the tempered glass side panel because it's fucking gorgeous.

>>58479095
Whoa that's cheap and better looking than the crap logical Inc recommends

>>58475505
posted something similar once, was called a faggot and the list was called meme parts...

I bought a 7600k and a z270 mobo due to no local computer store stocking the 6600k.

I also aint waiting any longer for Another Massive Dissapointment

I buy the cheapest case available and just add speed holes.

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>>58473586
Pic is my current CPU ;-;. I've more or less decided on the parts I'm getting, bought half of them already: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GCQGd6
>i7-7700K
Has a bit of a higher clock, making it easier to reach decent OC. Some people were saying Kaby Lake is binned Skylake chips, idk though, it's nearly identical to 6700K in price so w/e.
>Cooler
It's a cooler, good reviews.
>Mobo
Judging from reviews, this board seemed to be the best Z170 ITX board on the market. inb4 why z170 instead of b150, etc. Has the features I want.
>RAM
It's RAM, nothing flashy
>Storage
I ordered one PNY CS1311 120GB, but two arrived; called Amazon Customer Support, they said keep it. Already installed Win7 from an .iso and used Windows Loader for it to be "genuine."
>GPU
Idk, just seemed like a decent deal at the time. At least w/ new drivers, it's about the same as a 1060.
>Case
Great reviews, only thing I'm worried about is the proximity of the graphics card to the PSU.
>PSU
It's a PSU w/ good reviews, don't need more that 550W.
If you have any constructive criticism, I'd appreciate it. Don't critique purchased parts cause I already bought them.

>>58474590
Kaby Lake is only bad if you already have a decent CPU and are trying to get decent improvement. If he's a first time builder, he should be fine getting the 7600K.

>>58479408
This.
Too many memesters around here.

>>58479320
You may need a skylake cpu to update bios on a 100 series board to work with kaby lake.

Check the bios version of the board and look onlibe to see if it is compatible without needing to uoadate it.

>>58479513
Worst case scenario, I grab a skylake celeron and update bios. Currently trying to figure out if the Z170I has support for the Asus bios flashback utility, which wouldn't requrie me to have a skylake cpu installed to update bios.
www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-kaby-lake-bios-update,32813.html
Thanks, btw

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Anyone here know a thing or two about watercooling parts ?

Specifically, fittings. I have an EK-XLC Predator 360 that I would really like to use because of the way the reservoir and pump are mounted to the radiator. I RMA'd it once because the old unit started leaking and, well, the replacement unit was leaking out of the box as it turns out.

So, do EKWB's fittings suck a bag of dicks, or was this one just improperly assembled ?
Which fittings should I get to replace them, partly for aesthetic reasons ? I was looking at Bitspower, but they're twice the price of EKWB's fittings. Are they that much better ?

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>>58479866
I know that you can get wicked temps

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Can anyone give me some advice if this is decent?

I need a temporary build for since I sold my 4th gen rig because of some stuff which has been sorted out now. I just need a decent rig that will last me a year or two, I already have a GTX 1060, NZXT case and a Seasonic PSU from the old rig. Does this look ok? I was planning to use the stock cooler but unsure if it's okay, I'd like to save much money as possible for funds in Uni.

BTW I chose the Z270 because of the audio ports, I have a pretty decent 5.1 speaker and needs the audio ports for it but can't find any other mobo cheaper with the ports.

Right now i have Xeon E5430, 4GBDDR3 ram and HD7850 OC to 1050Mhz/1450Mhz. Will upgrade to G4400 or x4 845 worth it? Or should i wait for zen or G4560 becoming more avaiable in my country?

>>58478889
Bitfenix prodigy

>>58479970
Maybe, but not that wicked. Whatever that is, it's not water.

>>58474511
>>58474527
I have a backplate on my GTX 770 and it doesn't prevent sagging at all. I had to put together a support for the card, because it triggered my autism

>>58474959
Dual core isn't a good idea tbqh

Literally everything these days is optimized for 4 cores, and any Intel quad core bought now is going to last you many years.

How do I pick a good non-gaming oriented mobo? Do all the "skylake compatible" mobos use UEFI? I only want to install Ubuntu minimal core on it which doesn't work with UEFI.

>>58480664
Of course that works with UEFI.

>>58473586
So /g/ i am planning on building a PC by using 8 bit microcontrollers. For example i am keen on making it be able to browse files from a USB thumb drive and have an sdcard to serve as its internal harddrive. I will be using an atxmega as the core smaller atmegas and attinys to interface with other components such as wifi card (planning on using ESP8266) and i2c bus (attiny have a built in one), etc.
I am however boggled about what to use for display. On the internet numerous people have succeeded in generating various kinds of video signals, VGA, RCA, you name it. I have absolutely no idea about video signals, so i dont know how i would go about accomplishing this. I want my computer to have one main screen something like one of those Nokia color LCDs and another display out to a bigger screen.
Also another problem is external ram. What should i get? I have never used external ram before since i somehow managed with the internal ram, but this time, even if i want to drive a bare minimum 320x240 8 bit color screen, i would require a staggering amount of ram, almost 650KB. What should i do?

>>58480811
There's plenty of recovery programs online, can't remember the exact name because the last time this fucking happened to me was 2011 because I'm stupid in using flash drives, I have a functioning 16gb flash from the same year and still works fine.

>>58480811
whoops wrong reply sorry senpai

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>>58477995
The picture is what im currently on.

this is what i threw together between Black Friday and Kaby Lake. :3 lots of sales.
its sitting next to me awaiting a gpu.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GDdJV


pny 1070 is a place holder since Im waiting for Nier: Automata, so i can wait for AMD to do something or watch the prices drop a little. not sure if i should wait for Vega or if they will just be a disappointment.

>>58480811
Oh it says it runs in BIOS compatibility mode. That doesn't sound like it should be a problem right?

>>58481196
Your motherboard can do that, yeah. They all should be able to.
You can also just add the required files for UEFI boot to the Ubuntu minimal installer, it's not difficult. Google "ubuntu minimal uefi" for a guide if you want, but you just gotta copy the EFI/UEFI directory over from any of the other ISOs and it works.

Why is Anti-glare shit?

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>trying to remove the 24 pin ATX power lead from the motherboard

New standard fucking when

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So you utter faggots, is it worth to upgrade the graphics card now or is the next Blunder Of The Century™ just around the corner?

Can I run my pc parts off of the motherboard box while I wait for the case? The pieces of shit at FedEx delayed my package

>>58482730
This is a good time for buying graphics cards. If you're interested in high-end then 1080ti and Vega are coming soon, but it'll probably take at least 3 months before they're in stores.

>>58482922
Yes. Just be careful, don't drop the components or anything onto them.

>>58482989
>>58482922
How would I turn it on besides shorting the pins with a screwdriver? That seems a little unsafe for the mobo imo

>>58480393
I don't know why people keep saying this
I can run Gta V with a dual core and a 750 ti

>>58483111
That's how the power button in your case works, anon. As long as you don't use force it'll be fine.

If you don't want to use a screwdriver then just attach some wires to those pins and short them instead. Salvage some from your old case if you still have it.

>>58483159
Quadcore gives a performance boost over dualcore in most games.

>>58473586
Hey /g/ents. Trying to build some cheap-ass little station here.
Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card
EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Any suggestions?

>>58483320
ssd

>>58483159
a fucking lie lol, I have a 1060 and a Core2Quad at 2.66ghz and I still get around 30-60fps even if all of the settings are low, You'll need at least an Ivy or Sandy bridge for it.

Is the 4790k still a good cpu?

>>58483437
Yes, don't upgrade.

>>58483320
Do you know how to navigate around the bios and overclock? Or are you one of those who just "build it and never look back on upgrades" guy?

>>58483348
I didn't mean a literally dual core. I have a Pentium G4400. It runs smoothly, I get 60 fps easily

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Just picked this up for 21.50 with free shipping. How bad did I fuck up? I want to paint it that glorious 90s beige. Has anyone else done that mod? What paint/primer did you use?

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>New build
>Asus Z170 Deluxe motherboard
>Test the CPU, stock cooler, RAM and GPU with the mobo resting on its box
>Works, POSTs correctly
>Turn off, remove CPU for cleaning
>Motherboard manual recommends replacing the socket cap after removing the CPU to protect the socket
>Wouldn't normally bother but fuck it, this is an expensive motherboard, I should do what the manual says
>Put socket cap in place, lower lever
>CRUNCH *PING*
>ohgodno.webm
>Should have put the cap on top of the lever and not underneath it
>About 10 pins are all kinds of bent
>Try to bend them carefully back into place
>A few are so crooked they won't go back into a good position
>Try it with the CPU anyway
>Fails to POST, 'memory not installed'

Mock me, I deserve it.

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Is this build okay? What would you change? I didn't pick HDD yet cause I don't know which one and I already have a 512gb SSD regardless

>>58484099
Looks good to me famalam.

Regarding HDD, memesters on /g/ will tell you to get a Hitachi enterprise drive for their supreme reliability, not noticing that the new ones cost three times as much as a regular HDD of the same capacity and the cheap ones are second hand/refurbs.

If the HDD is just for mass storage of stuff that you can easily re-download (movies, music, games etc) just get a WD or Seagate. You do back up your stuff, right?

>>58484099
just make sure your case is wide enough to fit the height of the noctua fan.

also check noctua's site to see if that fan has an conflicts with your motherboard. sometimes a board is to small or a port to close to the fan that it blocks access to features on the board.

looks good tho.

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>>58484036
Time to buy a new mobo, oy vey!

>>58484099
Good, but get a cheaper case and 550/650W is more than enough.

>>58484099
>any specific reason for 6600k instead of 7700k?
>cooler price is above avg will you make use of it (OCing)? else theres cheaper options
>will you be using the "pro gaming" features of the mobo? (i think thats sound stuff and LAN utility gaming stuff)
>if money is tight could get lower freq RAM the impact is rather low
>which resolutions youre gaming on? 1070 would be overkill for 1920x1080
>case is a huge tower could save money there and moving the thing will be a pain
>750W is overkill unless youre planning to add another gpu in the future or smth. even 500W are more than enough for single gpu systems

how to apply thermal paste properly? everyone seems to say their method is the right one but I've seen like 10 already

>>58485077
i mean 7600k ofc

>>58485083
A dot on the middle, then put a heatsink over it - it will even itself out.

Be careful not to apply too much, you don't want it spilling on the sides of the cheap, makes cleaning it in the future difficult.

>>58485444
>cheap
Meant chip obviously

>>58483159
>I can run this specific game just fine on a dual core CPU, therefore quad core CPU isn't a direct improvement in any other game or application

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Hi /g/, I'm planning on getting an Alienware PC for gaming. What should I be looking for?

>>58485683

Build your own you baby.

>>58485683
dont get Alienware its all marketing. just like you dont get beats by dr.dre. generally anything "gaming" should ring an alarm bell cause its all marketing for the gullibe (mostly teenagers)

>>58485845
MSI Gaming X?

I have a budget of 1500-1600 what should I get?

>>58486086
An AMD Motherboard and a Vega.

>>58486086
Buy a chinese kid or two.

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Considering both, more likely to get the left because I think the extra cost of the 6600K and it's cooler can be spent on other shit.

>>58486192
Meant the right.

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I need to remove my the SSD from my laptop so I can use it for my build. I still wanna use the laptop so I'm going to downgrade the SSD to a spare 500gb HDD I have laying around. Anyone have any recommendations on how to clone the hard drive to an external drive so I can use that external drive to move the clone to my spare HDD?

is it possible to get a 1080 build for under 1500 or should I just get 1070?

>>58486236
Fuck, I meant the left.

>>58483501
Swap it out for a G4560.
2 core, 4 threads, 65 euro and 75 usd.

Good shit mang.

>>58486277
There are devices out there that clone HDDs.

You could try to load both into your main build then clone it via windows or whatever program out there that manages file partitions, etc.

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is this the video game console assembly thread?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PCHTjc

Rate this list nerds, I'm not sure about the 480 8GB since I'm aiming for 1080p. 6600k price is from the Microcenter CPU+MOBO deal.

>>58486646
The 480 is fine, but that powercolor doe...

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>>58486599
No, this is shitposting and chinese adult cartoon hoarding machine assembly general.

>>58486646
>shitty MSI krait mobo
>2400 RAM
>worst RX480 on the market
>budget PSU for OC build

Is this the technology cringe thread?

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>>58486318
wat?

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I'm looking to build a desktop for deep learning, but I'm completely new to building computers. I reside in the US and have ~$5000 to spend, but I would like to spend less than that.

In addition to the parts shown in the image, I plan to buy a EVGA Titan X and buy more Titan X's as needed.

Parts list taken from http://pjreddie.com/darknet/hardware-guide/

>>58479004
So this is what I came up with, can you guys give me an alternative case with an optical drive slot?

Also is there anything I should change? Is the power and cooler fine if I want to upgrade later on?

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>>58487071
Shit forgot pic

>>58473586
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YBdJNN
Gibs advice please.

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Thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pPHLbj


>>58487084
Not much point in an i3 if you're getting a graphics card. If you want to save some cash get a Pentium, they are practically the same other than iGPU. Power supply looks good though.

>>58487139
>>58487204
>buying Kelvin Lake
>no LN2
Enjoy your housefire.

>>58487216
Wtf are you talking about?

I'm new to PC building, I'm going off a slightly strict budget (for Canada at least), so I came to /g/ to get some advice on the build I plan to buy.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MMqMyf

Will this get me decent 1080p gaming performance and allow for some moderate video and photo editing?

>>58487216
>>58487230
It's just a joke, LN2 is liquid nitrogen.

>>58486890
I wasn't really sure which 480 to go with. The price difference doesn't matter that much between them so I don't care as long as it's sub 250.

Should I just downgrade from a 6600k to a 6500 and a B150? I was interested in spending a bit more for overclocking and a m.2 slot on the MOBO but I can't shell out for a $180+ board. What's wrong with KRAIT anyway?


I can't really do highly expensive RAM, and overclocking is more of a future plan. Just looking for tips so I don't get meme'd on.

>>58487230
I'm talking how studiply hot Kaby Lake can get when OC'd. You will easily hit 100°C @5GHz on air, be brace yourself for core failures.

>>58487300
>I wasn't really sure which 480 to go with.
Asus, MSI, XFX or Sapphire.
>Should I just downgrade from a 6600k to a 6500 and a B150?
You have to decide whether you need/want OC or not.
>What's wrong with KRAIT anyway?
Shitty (((GAMING))) mobo with shitty VRM.

Is 1080 even worth it? I'm a filthy casual gamer

>>58487462
what res are you playing and what settings do you want?

>>58487394
Thanks. Any recommendation on a MOBO? I'm thinking either 6500 or 6600k, depending on total price.

How's the GA-H170M-D3H?

>>58487525
Good but don't get H170, that's only required for SLI, H110 or B150 are what you want.

>>58487204
But what about the mobo and case? I want to be able to upgrade without having to replace everything down the line

>>58487556
Do you have size constraints? Why not go with a ATX mid Tower?

>>58484036
>remove CPU for cleaning
You fucking rub it with a paper towel, on the side that's facing outwards
I mock you.

>>58487553
Thanks. Though with a H110 I should probably go with the 6500 then.

>>58484036
Sucks to be you, next time leave the CPU on.

>>58487394
gonna need a source for that

>>58485083
A dot is the best because almost no chance for air bubbles and the CPU die area itself will be 100% covered
Completely covering the whole heat speaker in paste is dumb, so is creating a large thick smear of it. "Fill in the gaps" doesn't mean you need to rub paste everywhere, it just means it's a rough matte surface against a rough matte surface, use a small dot then forget about it

>>58487230
That a 7700k at 4.8GHz is one degree hotter than a 6700k at 4.6GHz
So Kaby lake is "hotter at the same overclocks" which was a misleading statement in the first place but /g/ latched onto it because Kaby lake apparently wasn't shitty enough

>>58487674
I hope you didn't plan on putting a 6600K on a H170 board m8.

>>58487689
This has beend discussed like every single thread in the past week and ALL reviews confirm that Kaby Lake will literally cook at 5GHz, even on AIO.
Main reason for this is the shitty TIM, if you replace it you can easily get like 20°C off.

>>58473717
Not really, this is why we have gaymen headsets

>>58487769
haven't been on /g/ for like 5 months. and that's if you plan to OC to 5GHz, I'd only push it to 4.6-7 or so, but that's just me

>>58487495
1080 high/ultra would be nice

>>58487648
This?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018

>>58487874
That should be fine, but you want to go with Kelvin Lake i'd still buy a good cooler.
Imho you should wait for Zen anyways, it will release 28.02. and it's promising.

>>58487880
Most games would run at >60fps on a 1070 at that res/settings. 1080 isn't really worth it unless you're gonna play 1440p, and even then the 1070 is enough for most

>>58487909
Something like that, its up to you if you ever want to reuse the case and be able to fit any mobo format. There are some listed in the overview that support Mini ITX, Micro ATX, ATX.

Otherwise your earlier choice is fine.

>>58487769
I wanted a Z170 board but it's probably out of my range.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8JfLbj
This is probably more reasonable for under 650.

>>58487961
I already bought a decent cooler, works fine with 6700Ks according to reviews, and I still have some time before I can afford a 7700K anyways, but I'd not going with AMD this round. Not because of brand loyalty or whatever (my current Intel CPU is a piece of shit) but because I found the perfect z170 board for me with all the right features and shit. Haven't seen any z270 boards with the features I want, so I doubt any AM4 boards will have exactly what I need at the time of release.

>>58487909
Another thing is that you may get sick of the same case, I liked mine when i bought it but 5 years later it looks tacky

>>58488022
this. I bought a Carbide series case in Jan 2016, already sick of it.

>>58488014
>but I'd not going with AMD this round
>I doubt any AM4 boards will have exactly what I need at the time of release
Why? Also what features do you require? If you plan on going with 7700K + Z170 your mobo will require a BIOS update, no idea if it's already released.

>>58488063
Wifi, USB 2.0 rear I/O, mITX form factor. The board I'm gonna get is the Asus Z170I Pro Gaming, the BIOS update for it was already released so I'm good on that part. I might have to grab a skylake celeron to install it though.
I bought the boards will have what I need mainly cause the newer generations are getting rid of USB 2.0 rear I/O ports. I need 2.0 to install win7 off an iso from usb since I'm poor and can't afford a legit disk

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DNYtNN

R8

>>58488111
Kaby lake won't work on win7, you need a Skylake or prior.

>>58488111
>install win7
Not going to happen with Kaby Lake, if you want Win 7 then Skylake is your only option.
>Wifi, USB 2.0 rear I/O, mITX form factor.
AMD4 will have two SFF specific chipsets/board types with excellent features, that might be interesting for your. Though Win 7 isn't an option either.

>>58488219
oh fuck, forgot about that bs. guess I'll stick w/ the 6700k, not much lost except the out-of-the-box .2 GHz, I guess

What motherboards should I consider for overclocking a G4620?

>>58488412
Is that even possible? Haven't read anything about Kaby Lake Pentium OC. If there's no confirmation yet i'd wait for it.

>>58486086
Shares in AMD while it's in a dip
Then dump it for Intel after Q3 2017

>>58486971
>for deep learning
CPU won't really help that much, you'll actually need something like a Quadro or FirePro to get anywhere with that.
You can get an ten-core Xeon E5-2630 v4 for roughly the same price as that six-core. You might want to consider a dual socket 2011-v3 board if you really want to rely on CPU processing alone. Buy a single E5-2630 now and a second one later for 20 cores/40 threads of processing power. Just make sure that the DIMMs are occupying the right slots if you're using just one of the sockets.

>>58488835
Those are old xeons though, old xeons get significantly less powerful Ye more years back you go, xeons only recently stopped being embarrassing per-core

>>58488928
>Those are old xeons though
http://ark.intel.com/products/92981/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2630-v4-25M-Cache-2_20-GHz
Read the release date

Should I build a PC with gtx 1080 now or just wait for the new cards since it's 2017?

Would a 1060 be good enough for 1440p/120fps in CS?

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Is this a good build? I'm planning to get this but I'm still hesitant. Isn't there better alternatives to HAF X? That case is like 4 years old. Isn't 850w PSU an overkill? What about the motherboard?

>>58489070
Integrated graphics is enough for 1440p/120hz in CS

>>58489185
Also what about liquid cooling? Like why does nothing on logicalincrements use it?

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>>58489185
Give me a minute

>>58489185
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WZvGd6
Managed to fit one of the best 1080s and the better of the CPU air coolers and still come $150 under budget

>>58489444
thanks a lot anon

>>58489198
>Also what about liquid cooling?
Not worth it unless you're overclocking with high voltages, which means that you'll need to spend more on a motherboard with better power delivery and management and possibly more on a good PSU. Air cooling performs as well as water coolers up to a certain thermal threshold, which is about 135W-150W for twin-fan 120mm tower coolers. After that, water cooling achieves consistently lower temperatures (at the expense of noise, of course). So unless you're pumping 1.4Vs into a Skylake or Kaby Lake LGA1151 processor or a 2011-3 Haswell-E/Broadwell-E, you're better off with an air cooler.

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>>58489185
The thing about cases is that it really doesn't matter what it is as long as it has the features you want and it fits all your components. Kyle from BitWit has a fully water-cooled system inside a Define S, an $80 case.

Kind of the same thing with motherboards. Motherboards are literally just a few chipsets and a bunch of circuits printed onto a piece of fiberglass. My motherboard cost around $90 and it OCs fine. You shouldn't have to go more than that unless you're doing some crazy overclocking shit.
>>58489198
Water cooling is an aesthetic meme that has contributed to poor case design as of late.
>hur dur, this compact budget tower can't fit a 240mm radiator on all four sides, now I can't show off my e-peen on /r/buildapc
>manufacturers expand their case dimensions in response so the average air-cooling Joe has to deal with a ton of dead space inside his tower that he's never going to populate

>>58489586
One of the few times I ripped off a customer was using an expensive-looking ITX case (it was a Lian Li) and stuffing it with an FM2 motherboard and an A10-6800K. Charged him as much as I would have charged for a low-end Z77 motherboard and an i5-3570K.

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Why can't the US market get superior Nippon aluminum cases?

>>58489758
You can, you just need to pay for international shipping.

slightly related

Im trying to buy a part from a site similar to Ebay with PayPal. Do I need to first Transfer money into my Paypal before I purchase? or will it just take it directly from my credit card and bank account that is directly connected to my paypal? Im not sure how the Paypal middle man works and i dont want to fuck up.

>>58490353

It just makes a credit card payment for you.

>>58490419
cool, cause it seemed like a hassle transferring money to pay pal before i could purchase... then having like a few random dollars and cents laying around.

>>58476089
>>58476138
i-i always put it on sleep never shut it down and power on.

Hi /g/ents, what are good HDD that will last long and have high storage?

>>58490733
Western Digital Reds. Made for NAS use, meaning 24/7 operation.

>>58490733
Forgot to mention its for hoarding and backups.

>>58490733
H I T A C H I
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>>58490733
>>58490763
>for hoarding and backups

A WD blue would be fine

>>58490760
kek no
Two of my 6 WD Reds died within weeks of delivery.
>>58490733
HGST Deskstar NAS or bust.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zWbh2R

How bad did I fuck up

>>58490676
even so, you should still get an SSD even if just for fast load times in games and programs.

>>58490788
>Two of my 6 WD Reds died within weeks of delivery.

Good thing they have a 3 year warranty. Sounds like an environmental issue if you're killing them that quickly, though.

>>58490834
That's a low quality power supply.
Only option is to scrap the build and start again

>>58480939
>once upon a time this was an absolutely monstrous system

>>58490834
>that keyboard
>that mouse
>that PSU
Other than that it looks okay for a poor man's build.

>>58490891
>>58490877
I actually got a CX650M instead, still start over? I was planning on buying a locked kaby.

This is all coming from a q6600 btw.

>>58490910
It's fine. I'd get different pheriphials, though. Check out /mkg/ for some suggestions.

>>58490733
For Desktop use, Desktop hard drive.

Not Nas, Surveillance, or Enterprise.

Any Desktop Variety. WD Black or Blue.

Desktop hard drives are apparently better at repairing errors since they are designed to work alone without redundancy like the others that expect to be used in a Raid.

>>58490942
>Desktop hard drives are apparently better at repairing errors since they are designed to work alone without redundancy like the others that expect to be used in a Raid.
Yes
The main difference is that NAS drives like the WD Red stop trying to read after 7 seconds, so that another drive in the RAID can take over
Desktop drives try longer

>>58490942
>For Desktop use, Desktop hard drive.

No, use a SSD, and buy a NAS drive for all of your media even if it's going in a desktop. No one should be buying desktop HDDs at this point.

Also, why not Enterprise? Literally no downsides besides cost.

Btw, you have that backwards. Desktop drives don't have TLER/similar.

$100 case with optical drive slot, I just want something I won't need to upgrade. Any thoughts?
I checked the recommendations in the sticky and they're all ugly as hell. The only decent one was the NZXT S340 but no drive.

Should I RAID0 four 125GB flash drives for the sake of it? They cost roughly the same as a signle 500GB SSD.

>>58490861
isnt it bad to always put it on sleep?

>>58491256
Dum dum dum dum

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is this the one /g/?
gonna save up for it

other than the gaymen looks it has the perfect specs

>>58491079
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#G=1,12&X=0,13983&R=5,4,3

>>58491312
It's preference, people make a big deal out of it.
if it's better to shut off completely, an SSD will make booting windows about as fast as getting it out of sleep.

>>58491529
So what if I buy one that says Mid Tower I won't need anything else?

>>58488168

pls

>>58491543
So it isn't as bad as it's made out to be? I do it because of the many tabs a keep open.

>>58491626
if you use your computer a lot, the benefits may outweigh the cons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDDKw6Apxrg

>>58491557
Those are just Cases to put the parts in.

Mid Town just means the size of the case with some indication of the how much stuff you can fit in it.

you can fit Motherboards that are ATX and smaller (miniATX, itx)

Some Cases comes with a PowerSupply and/or Fans.

But none of those are Complete Computers. Just the case with EXTERNAL 5.25" BAYS for Optical drives.

>>58491852
Oh I was just asking if I'd ever need a bigger case. Just looking to upgrade my cpu and video card in the future

>>58491888
im a fractal design fanboy so id go with something like the DefineR5 since its wide enough to fit a Noctua NHD15 fan and deep enough for just about every videocard, with a bunch of radiator space.

but there are lots of cases out there like it.

>>58491678
thanks

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This is going to cost me 2037$ in my country cause the palit card is 850$. Can I downgrade something here to make it a bit cheaper? I was planning to fit in the 1500$ range but that didn't quite work out.

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>CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K
>CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
>Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151
>Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
>Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
>Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
>Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply


Looking good? I have a couple ssds to use for storage and a 1440p monitor.

>>58492133
Pic related is how I expect it to look.

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What could I be doing wrong while overclocking?

Pic related

>>58473586
Check it out
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WGKTjc

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So this is my build, I want to be able to upgrade to a high end CPU and video card in a year or two. Will this work? Would I need a better Power Unit or Heat sink?

Also which SSD do you guys recommend?

>>58492270
You could probably save a few bucks on the wireless adapter by going with this one:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di
I'm using it right now and it works great

>>58491594

help

>>58492311
I'll look into that thanks Anon

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>>58492231
Thermal throttling?

spent way too much already on this old bagel maker. looking for suggestions on finishing it. I might sell the 3550 to a buddy and try and find a decent deal on a 3770k. and go 16gb dc ram

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/

was an i3 2100 and a 6850 that was also cobbled together. Just want to hold out until tax season 2018

>>58492133
thats pretty much what i built.
i can take a picture in a bit, if you want

>>58480939

>>58492389
Pls.

>>58488168
>>58492321

Not a pro but it looks fine to me

>>58492284
As far as the heatsink, the hyper 212 EVO is popular for a reason, it's very good especially for its price. im using it on my i5-6500 now and it's great so far.
the PSU looks good in terms of wattage, but be careful with bronze, you don't want your PSU to go bust and your rig to go with it.

this is a common SSD choice: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7v38TW/pny-internal-hard-drive-ssd7cs1311240rb
it's very cheap for an SSD and as fast as you'd expect an SSD to be, but obviously not as fast as a samsung 850 pro and such. cant speak for its longevity however.

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SHOEBOX
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And yes, I take off my shoes indoors and I have never worn those shoes outside, they're brand-spanking new.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FTKsvV

can I make it better? I can go 20$ up or down, but that's it, I see no point in spending more than that

will get ssd in 2 months after buying this comp, and 8 more gb of ram after 4months

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>>58492399
hopefully this looks alright. hard to get good lighting.

i turned the drive bays so if i added a second fan air would pass through more easily.

>>58492803
Looks great! Thanks! Can't wait to order mine now haha

>>58492803
Any particular reason you have the top panels off? I have an R5 too and I don't see any temperature difference when they're off and water condensation on iced drinks and stuff is always finding a way to fall on top of my computer.

>>58492334
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Wowee, your build looks identical to mine!

Why does the wiki say magnetic screwdrivers will fuck up your components? I've heard the opposite pretty much everywhere else.

>>58492861
>Any particular reason you have the top panels off?
to let light in so it was easier to see inside. there is a light directly overhead making shadows

How do I get this fucker out? I undid the clip and it still is not budging, and I'm scared of breaking the motherboard. I guess I could just keep it on when I put the motherboard in the case.

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>>58492965
Woops

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>>58492981
Wiggle and pull.

Can methylated spirits (aka denatured alcohol) be used to remove thermal paste? I've read you're supposed to use isopropyl alcohol but I don't have any.

>>58492406
Thanks man!

>>58493011
Isopropyl alcohol is like five bucks and it's probably at your local supermarket.

I'm installing Windows 7 from a USB iso and using the accessibility upgrade to ten, but this load drive pop-up is hindering that. How to fix? Windows is also not recognizing my ssd, but the bios is

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>>58493075

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>>58493053
but then i'd have to talk to people

just for curiosity's sake, would meths work?

>>58493112
A few quick Google searches says that denatured alcohol has some added shit that make it less ideal for cleaning things sensitive to contaminants (like CPUs). Isopropyl also evaporates faster apparently.

Don't forget that you can use isopropyl to clean other parts of your computer.

>>58493090
Had the same issue yesterday, I was using an external dvd reader, ended up ripping an internal one from another pc and temporary using that and it work.

If you have a spare dvd drive, try burning the iso to a dvd.

As for the ssd, try formatting it to ntfs, you can do that by booting into linux with a usb key and using gparted

>overclock my CPU from 4.2ghz to 4.5ghz
>only a 2% advantage instead of a theoretically correct 7% advantage (used Cinebench)
Is this normal?

>>58493090
>Don't use USB3. Windows 7 doesn't come with native USB3.
>Load the fucking drivers like the error message says, you mongoloid.

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Shitty gamedev here, I work on laptop and it is not fun to work in it at all, also on a budget.
I need your opinion on pic related (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKvtNN).

Also should I wait until ryzen and vega?

>>58493219
Um, duh? Did you think that anything in real life scales perfectly?

>>58493257
It's blank, I have no drivers that it finds

>>58493261
>That RAM.

Uhhh...
Yeah, you should wait.

>>58493261
>$250 GPU
>muh budget
Are you stupid?

That PSU is literal garbage. Budget ~$50 for it.

>Also should I wait until ryzen and vega?
Do you need things now? As-in right now?

If so, then no. We don't have proper benches anyway and we don't know what stock's going to be like either. Either plan for now or 3-6 months.

>>58493287
No shit. Get your i/o drivers from your motherboard manufacturer's website & add them to the Win7 USB.

When it fails to load, load the .inf via the Windows Setup prompt.

>>58493310
Apart from not having a fancy cover, is there anything wrong with that ram?

>>58493394
It's better to find a match pair of RAM over buying two separately for stability and long-term usage.

>>58492868
that's not how it works anon, grab the link from the box in the top left of the pcpp screen

>>58493311
I dont know what you're implying by saying he's stupid for getting a really good budget card for games

srs question, will Windows 7 run in a kabylake?
Am I better off running Windows 7 rather than 10 LTSB if I want it for gaymes + netbeans/visual studio stuff

Processor:
AMD FX-8320E
Motherboard:
ASRock 970A-G/3.1 ATX AM3+/AM3
Video Card:
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card
Case:
NZXT S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply:
EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX
Everything else I took out of another pc

>>58493654
>AMD processor.
Why.
>GTX 960
WHY

Dude, I hope you're trolling with this or these are used parts.

Spent $258 On my build, bought my Video card for $50 off a close Friend.

what would happen if i put my memory modules in their non-reccomended DIMM's? would they just not work as efficiently?

>>58473586
Should I upgrade my CPU and Graphics?
I have:
>FX6300
>GTX 760
>8 gigs RAM

I would get:
>FX 8350 or Ryzen
>GTX 1070
>16gb ram (DDR4)

Or can I just buy a 1070 and throw it in my current rig?

>>58493710
Get Ryzen.
Don't get 8350, will be obsolete when Ryzen shows up.

And 1070 will get bottlenecked to hell and back with the 6300.

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Alright, so I finally have enough money after saving up to build a school/gaming computer. I'm using a shitty emachines computer back in 2005 with windows vista (now with windows 10) the fan is constantly screaming to die and the case is about to burst open.

Basically I've never had a great computer nor do I know anything about them, so I'm trying to build one that will last and is great for more than a few years.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTThYr

I'm trying to keep my budget within $2500 and was wondering if theres anything that should be scraped for something else or removed entirely. Thanks in advance guys.

I'm thinking of getting a GTX 1080 but there are so many different variants and I don't know which is best. Are the variations just different levels of overclock and different coolers or is there something else to it? Should I wait for 1080Ti?

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>> 58493311
Is the ram speed a problem?
Also is a must the heat spreaders?

The motherboard specs says it supports ddr4 2133 but does it support highers speed?
What do you think would be a good ram at a good cost?

58493311
>> $ 250 GPU
Im borrowing money do not bully.
What other Gpu do you suggest with a 3d creator workflow in mind? I may change my mind.

Also I will look for others PSU. But are you sure the PSU is shit? it is EVGA 400W after all.

>>58493286
>inb4 Zen engineering samples

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>>58493310
Is the ram speed a problem?
Also is a must the heat spreaders?

The motherboard specs says it supports ddr4 2133 but does it support highers speed?
What do you think would be a good ram at a good cost?

>>58493311
>> $ 250 GPU
Im borrowing money do not bully.
What other Gpu do you suggest with a 3d creator workflow in mind? I may change my mind.

Also I will look for others PSU. But are you sure the PSU is shit? it is EVGA 400W after all.

>>58492334
fuck I wasn't paying attention
>>58492868
got me.


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FyFkbj

spare puter that was a sandy i3/6850. just slap a 1tb 7200 in and call it good? or ssd/hdd and 16gb ram?

>>58493854
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTThYr
You might want a higher wattage PSU, but it looks fine.

>>58493854
What sort of school? I would redirect at least a third of that money towards a good laptop because if you're going to any decent university, chances are you're up and about and you have maybe two unbroken hours to yourself every day.

And maybe consider a SFF build. Even mid-towers are an absolute bitch to move around and I had to leave mine at my dorm for break.

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What video guide did you guys use for your builds?

>>58493854
to save yourself from some hassle, go with a z270 board. Kabylake and Z170 will work, but you will first need a Skylake CPU to update the Bios to prepare it for Kabylake. With Z270 it will work right out of the box.

>>58493947
I've been watching hardware review channels and build guides for at least three years before I actually built my computer.

>>58493889
see
>>58493394
>>58493410

I'm building my first PC and how the fuck do you prevent static?
Like
would building in my garage on concrete in the nude on top of my metal dryer be fine?

>>58493907
>>58493950
Will do, thanks.

>>58493920
What's a SFF build? Also, its not too much for school, just for a few papers and java coding here and there, basically the gaming part outweighs the school part.

So do the power boxes come with their own cable or do I need to go get one?

>>58494029
they come with a cable or do you mean to connect the components? Everything comes with a cord.

>>58494029
Power boxes, you mean Power Supplies, right?

They come with the required cables.

>>58494029
If you find one that doesn't come with a cable, DONT FUCKING BUY IT.

>>58493996
Nude on top of your dryer but it has to be on or it isn't fully grounded

>>58493996
I've never had any problems with static, if it bothers you that much get a antistatic wrist strap or antistatic gloves. Just don't build you pc on a carpet.

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>>58494012
Small Form Factor. Small size, big power. You could probably fit all your components that you listed in a case half the size of the Phantom 630.

But listen to me about that laptop part. You need one.

>>58494063
Me being nude is just a preference

>>58494064
Ok, thank you. I'll just roll my carpet out of the way.

>>58494086
Touch metal before touching anything and try to not touch the circuitry also

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>>58494064
What do I do if my entire house is carpeted? Should I build it in the toilet?

>>58494102
Do i have to be cautious of my power supply with static? I installed it already and didnt even think about static at the time.

>>58494121
Build it outside in the humid weather

>>58494121
build new house

>>58494045
>>58494054
>>58494058
Alright neat.

I just bought all the main components, is there something people forget to get when they build their first PC?

>>58494122
No

>>58493996
touching your power supply while it is plugged in and turned off works fine

>>58493950
not, BIOS flashing is done from the BIOS itself with a USB. Plus I'm sure most mobos come updated already

>>58494144
>I/O shield
>Flipping the power switch on the PSU
>Flipping the power switch on the display
>Plugging in that one cable
>Why I'm alive

>>58494144
Ram
Fan filters
Extra screws because you have fucking fat fingers and drop the screws and then you're asshole cat steals it under the bed.
Zip ties

>>58494077
But I already have a laptop, anon. How would I go about build a SFF is there a specific case I would need to get?

Can any/all CPUs/Motherboards overclock or only certain ones?

>>58494144
Did the case you buy come with fans?

>>58493979
this. I've closed out my second year of watching channels/guides, and I'm only halfway done w/ buying the parts.

>>58494121
keep the PC on the table

>>58494172
Just a less than ATX size motherboard and a smaller case is all you need. You need to think more about component selection though because small form factor cases value space efficiency over compatability, as in they don't accommodate for 100% of video cards/CPU heatsinks/PSUs

>>58494189
By the time you're done buying parts they'll be obsolete

>>58494188
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9XL7YJ/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bkw

I think so

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>>58494194
What if my feet are touching the carpet and my hands are on the components?

Nu thread: >>58494211

>>58494214
look at the picture

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>>58494207
You're fine