How does /g/ hold their mouse?

Claw is the most patrician but it requires skill the masses might not easily contrive, so I would not hold it against them if they don't.

>>58455065
Palm grip but with an arch. My finger lay flatter than the bottom two.

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Fingertip grip here. Using pic related which is very small/lightweight. Been searching for something new, but I can't find anything as good as this. I just like where all of the extra buttons are.

>>58455065
Fingertip, I use my thumb and pinky to 'hold' the mouse.

>>58455065

What kind of retards are still using horizontal mice?

Used to be fingertip grip, now palm grip.

>>58455065
fingertip + wrist movements is the most accurate way

>>58455065
> Anything except fingertip
Just why?

Claw and Fingertip are identical, one is just more pronounced than the other. Palm is for retards.

Switch off between all three, depending on activity and to allow for stamina.

>>58455249

back to >>>/tv/ fag

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>>58455160
I would probably like that mouse. I hate my side buttons on my mouse as they are actually on the side of the mouse. My right ring finger is compelled to press the top right side button and I accidentally go back a page. Pic related.

>>58455065
I wish to use claw grip but there is no mouse like g9x

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>>58455065
I use fingertip. How on earth can anyone use the other two??? They feel like shit and I get RSI just looking at the claw.

I am somewhere in between claw and fingertip. But only because the stupid middle button on my mouse is a bit stiff and requires additional pressure

Fingertip

>>58455160
>Using pic related which is very small/lightweight
you call that huge monstrosity small? eh?

perosonally, I use claw. I have a MS sculpt mouse (mobile version) and it's perfect for claw.

I'm pretty sure that claw is the best for ppl who suffer from carpal tunnel.

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>>58455218
First person shooters, I think there are more different techniques than in OP's picture, they are just more or less useful than the common ones.

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>>58455065
claw is the only way

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>>58455583
>120x88

>>58455065
3 obviously

claw/palm

>>58455172
You're going to have to speak in a 3D Cartesian axis for me to understand what the fuck you're trying to say.

>>58455065
Palm grip makes it take longer to switch to the scroll wheel. My fingers are extended so that they are at exactly the position I use for the scroll wheel.

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>>58455897

Thumb and pointer in palm while the rest are set up in a claw

I put pressure on the right side of the mouse with my pinky and ring finger, left side with the first joint of my thumb, which still leaves my thumb free because I'm double jointed.

Isn't really similar to anything on the chart, maybe palm.

>>58455065
I use fingertip because I have gigantic mongloid hands. I'd show you my gayman mouse but you'd have a spergfit though it feels so good to have a meaty mouse in my hand rather than the nasty lightweight one I use at work.

I have small woman hands and alternate between claw and fingertip.

Who uses claw? How many K/D's do you get by using the Claw Grip?

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>>58455583
>First person shooters, I think there are more different techniques than in OP's picture,
fag in that vid is clearly using the claw.

>>58455199
No they are not. Claw let's the mouse rest on the palm and limits movement. Fingertip is the best

>>58455520
I used to own a G300 and it is very small in person.

>>58456033
What mouse is that? I grip my mouse in a similar way but my claw grip uses first finger on left mouse button, second finger on wheel and ring finger is on the second mouse button.

>>58455065
for normal workstation use, fingertip plus relatively high dpi.

having to move your entire hand/forearm for vertical pointer adjustment is just retarded, and I can move my cursor in maybe a 800 px radius just pushing my mouse around between my fingers.

>>58456155
Long periods of fingertip will wear your hand out though, it is the most accurate, and most difficult to master from 0 experience, because the fingers do all the movement and there is no anchor point except possibly the wrist for controlling movement.

>>58456172
Microsoft blue mouse.

>>58455065
Finger

>>58456155
>Claw let's the mouse rest on the palm and limits movement
Not if your mouse is small. I use claw with a smaller/mobile mouse.

>>58456117
It's an upgrade but a subtle one. You are better off changing to something like RAM(Corsair Vengeance bruh) or adding balancing LED lighting(red for brutal performance or blue for higher cooling efficiency etc).

>>58456263
Thanks for the advice, bro. Do you know if any games have mouse settings made specifically for us Claw Grippers? Would placing my hope in getting easy kills there be dumb since most of the playerbases only play because of said Claw Grip mouse settings?

Whatever lets me aim with my arm

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>>58456147
I couldn't resist, but I don't fingertip that often anymore, it's too much finger strain.

>>58456282
You should defo try out razer. Their trackpads allow you to play at ESport tier. With their
>Competitive green
colors you'll get much more stamina!

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>>58455065
Reaper grip.

>>58456320
how can you stand that default ubuntu cursor? it looks like total ass.

>>58456342
how many hackusations per hour?

>>58456339
I've actually seen ads for them on Twitch, even while watching some of my favorite LoL streamers. They play for so many hours, I wish I could go as long and as hard as them

What now should I get to replace my trusty DA13 when it dies?

I really, really like the look of the Ducky Secret because PBT plastic + no-frills design but it's using the 3310 sensor which apparently has issues. Is the 3310 really that bad? Should I only get a mouse with the 3360/3366?

>>58456345
Windows XP style cursor would be a good alternative, I liked the human cursor theme when I first used it. I did dislike the hand cursor when I first used it but it has grown on me. I don't know why, its better than default Xorg. It does look really awkward compared to Windows though.

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>>58456320

Parkinson's?

>>58456399
If you're playing multiplayer fps, players will pay attention to aiming direction in order to predict to dodge. You have to learn to be able to not aim directly at a target but be able to hit it when you need to, try going off in any random direction then back to the exact spot where you just were.

>>58456382
I use mac cursors because I prefer black cursors. adwaita looks crooked so can't stand it either. you can find mac cursors in aur.

>>58455065
Palm grip but claw for my index finger.
Hmm.

>>58456448
I used to be really into customization of ui but now i just let defaults propagate, unless there is nothing efficient about them, then i reconfigure to a previous set of defaults.

>>58456441

Thanks for an explanation! Appreciate it.

I tried it with my mouse and I can't replicate that kind of a movement. I think there's too much friction between the mouse and the desk. My mouse doesn't glide smoothly across... it kinda makes tiny jumps.

>>58456520
I play a lot, it's harder with a moving target, probably just being stubborn on my part, if there's anything around that creates friction or uneven movement I have to fix it or it drives me crazy, with wired mice even if the cord length or position gets hinders upward movement that will be annoying.

>dat neanderthal claw grip

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>>58456514
Eh, it takes like 10 seconds to fix yet it annoys the heck out of me if I leave it at defaults. That ubuntu pointer is atrocious. it's like writing with a giant thick stick.

>>58455172
the fuck is a horizontal mouse

>>58456575
Yeah you're right the top pixel of the cursor isn't even covered by the action of the clicking zone, in Ubuntu default.

I think fingertip because small wireless mouse.

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Palm grip isn't an option for me.

I think I claw grip

>>58457028
that's the mouse I use as well. I love that grip because it doesn't trigger my RSI.

I can't into anything other than claw

Palm for werk. Fingertip for Red Eclipse

>>58456342
LONDON
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N
D
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>current year+2
>using mice still

i use a combination of a steam controller for grand movements and an eye tracker to control my cursor precisely . Ive got 2 pairs of rudder pedels for wasd. works great in overwatch too, perfect tracking to what im looking at its basically a human aim bot.

Depends on the size of the mouse and whether or not I have a proper pad.

>>58457282
you sound like a bed ridden cripple that can barely move

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Just like this

>>58455980
kek

>>58457239
>Palm for werk
what work do u do?

>>58456201
>it is the most accurate, and most difficult to master from 0 experience
fingertip uses the smallest area, only a few square inches, so it is the least accurate when compared to the broad strokes of other grips using a whole square foot or more of space

there is nothing skilled about it, it's just the "office worker with small desk" grip

>>58455065
fingertip. I like to relax.

>>58458073
also it is the "fuck my hands are too big for this mouse grip"

>>58455065
I just lay my hand on it like a normal fucking person

you're not a naruto ninja cunt, you don't have a "technique" or anything, check your self it's just a damn mouse

FInger tip grip with a G400s. A palm grip or death claw grip seems like it would just hurt for prolonged use, Use all wrist and shoulder, Ouch.

If you aren't clawgrip, you're homosexual.

>>58455065
CLAW

I HAVE TO USE SMALL MICE

>>58458206
i only claw for gaming. closet homo I guess

Logitech G502
A mix of claw and fingertip, comfy.

>>58458206
I don't clawgrip but I'm a homo, what then?

>>58458336
you just confirmed him, mate.
if you dont claw, you re homo

I have G403.

Honestly I use all three methods, depends what is most comfortable at that exact moment.
I would say that Palm, and Fingertip grips are my favorite I would say.

>>58458206
I am gay and I use clawgrip for everything

Fingertip with a mouse that would trigger half of /g/, getting a bit worn out after 5 years so i'm replacing it with one that'll also trigger the other half of /g/

>>58455065
>mouse
tiling wm master race

>>58457282
Some of us use PCs for things that aren't kids' games.

>>58455160
Still have my old G300 as well. Use it on my secondary machine. Am a palm grip/claw grip hybrid user though, and main mouse is the new G900

>>58458502
>tiling wm master race
literal autism

>>58455065
with my hand

kind of a mix between claw and fingertip.

>>58455065

This begs the question: What's the best mouse for people with super large hands?

I'd really like to be able to use a palm grip (I get fatigue/finger ache from finger/claw gripping a mouse all day) but my hands are just too large, even for a Deathadder sized mouse. My fingertips end up hanging off the front.

>>58455065
claw grip master race

>>58459903
>This begs the question: What's the best mouse for people with super large hands?
claw of course

claw's the best for everyone. it's the most natural position

>>58459985

Did you even read the question?

"What's the best mouse for people with super large hands?"

Also: As I said, claw can be fatiguing, and isn't particularly comfortable. Holding your fingers more rigid like that, esp. on a mouse that's a) small for your hand, but b) still heavier and larger than most mice, is definitely not ideal. I don't know about you, but my fingers naturally lie straight, not bent 90*.

it depends on the shape of the mouse. my current one is flatter than my other mouse so i use "palm grip" because it hurts my wrist less.

>>58458073
>fingertip uses the smallest area, only a few square inches, so it is the least accurate when compared to the broad strokes of other grips

That's not how it works, you stupid faggot. Having more surface area in contact with the mouse does not automatically equate to more precise feedback. Fingertip/claw is the most accurate because you are able to move the mouse with only fine muscle movements only our fingers are capable of delivering. If you're a palm-gripping mouthbreather you need to use your elbow/shoulder which is completely inadequate for precise movements.

>>58460104

Except that you would be using your wrist too? ....

>>58460244
That's a given for any mouse grip. The key is eliminating elbow/shoulder movement which is much harder to do when you have your whole hand enveloping the mouse.

>>58455065
>patrician tier
Palm grip
>common man tier
Fingertip grip
>just tier
Claw grip

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>>58461990
>>patrician tier
>Palm grip
kek'd. you have to move your whole fucking arm around when you're in a palm grip. it's literally the most retarded and inefficient way to move a mouse.

holding your mouse in the palm is equivalent to turning your whole body around when you want to see something instead of just turning your neck slightly.

the only patrician way is to use claw or fingertip method. I'd say that claw is superior but you need a smaller mouse to use it well.

you also need a fucking huge mouse to use the palm method which just adds pointless weight and bulkiness to the mouse. and it also increases the surface are and friction.

>>58455065

Sort of a hybrid claw/palm.

On that note, what's a good mouse? I have a Logitech G500 that's finally giving up the ghost after almost 5 years and need something to replace it. I've heard good things about the G502, tried a Deathadder but I didn't like how it felt in my hand and it gave me wrist/finger pain. Any ideas?

>tfw too hungry of a skeleton to use palm grip

>>58462518
>and it also increases the surface are and friction
friction prevents overshooting

>inb4 undershooting
get better arms, faggot

>>58462755
>friction prevents overshooting
learn how to fucking control it, you pleb.

>get better arms, faggot
get better skillz, retard.

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>>58462542
>Logitech G500
Doesn't that dig into your thumb if you try to grip at the bottom?

I haven't used a mouse in 15 years

>>58462814

No? I rest my thumb on the indent. Why would I grip it at the bottom? That seems wrong to me.

>>58462862
If your thumb is able to touch the surface that the mouse is being used on it allows for another point of friction control.

>>58462879
>friction control
get better arm control

>>58462915
Why not both?

>>58462926
friction causes heat, causing you to waste more money on air conditioning

>>58462943
I'm probably just triggered by thumb holders because my anime fag little brother uses a mouse with one. But you can hover the entire mouse above the surface if you allow for a thumb point.

>>58455065

palm grip but still a couple of millimeters of air gap between my palm and mouse.

I would say 80% palm grip and 20% claw grip hybrid

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>>58463039
it's not a palm grip if your palm isn't fucking touching the mouse.

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>>58455160
Fingertip grip here too and use a very similar mouse.

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>>58458418
well, in reality it'll trigger the same half, it'll just trigger them harder. Used a 5 for the past 5 years, it's served well but the feet wore off of the bottom

>>58456342
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF YOUR MOUSE

>>58455065
Palm grip.

Because I'm not a faggot.

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>>58456602
>he doesn't use a vertical mouse

LOL enjoy your carpal tunnel scrub

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>>58456342
Fingertip w/ Razer Ouroboros
It's Razer's top of the line mouse I think & despite the edgy design, it works really well & because you can change the sides & adjust the length & all that, it's pretty comfortable.

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>>58455065
Fingertip when using for a long period of time, palm for relaxation. Claw grip is unusable.

Since the seems like the de facto mouse thread I have a bit of a question. What would /g/ recommend as far as durable mouses go? I don't need anything with any absurd amount of DPI but can outlast most other mouses as far as clicks go.

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>>58463129

>>58463321
>inb4 g502
But seriously, g502 pretty good.

>>58463336
okay, kinda takes me back. We used to play this in the computer lab in highschool

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>>58463311
>Claw grip is unusable.
yet best competitive pro gamers use it.

>>58463372
With that logic, the best mice, keyboards, and mousepads are Razer.
>inb4 sponsored products not the same thing
They use them even on their personal computers too. As well as Dx Racers.

I meant it was unusable for me, anyway.

Claw for ever

>>58457309
Why do you use a ball?

>>58455065
With my dick xd

>>58455065
I hold with fingertips and move my whole arm with my shoulder when playing fps games because low sensitivity and best possible fast clicking.

When just regular use fingertip and wrist with a higher DPI.

Claw grip with the Zowie FK2.

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Fingertip grip with the Xornet II. The shape is pretty much perfect, the ring finger rest is comfy as fuck. I just wish they used quieter/softer switches.

>>58456381
ROG Gladius is a good DA2013 replacement, if you can get it for a reasonable price.

>>58463225
I tried using my dad's one and it's the most uncomfortable shit ever.

>>58462542
>I have a Logitech G500 that's finally giving up the ghost after almost 5 years
My G5 is dying after 10 years. Still can't replace it, but it'll probably be a steelseries.

>>58455065
That picture is not palm grip. The palm of that hand is not touching the mouse.

Fingertip masterrace reporting in. I have large hands and fingertip works with any mouse.

Claw grip is probably ideal for some hand sizes / shapes but not for my creepy spider fingers. No, no.

Lastly, palm grip is pleb shit even if your hands are short enough to pull it off on existing mice. If your hand is going to lazily rest on the mouse you might as well aim with an analog stick, you're never going to git gud until you switch to a real grip style.

>>58463103
>flat mice

How are you going to pick it up comfortably? Inb4 plebs here use less than 30cm/360° (that's 1.5 young oak tree branches for imperial readers). The real way to fingertip a mouse is to hold its sides with thumb and pinky. In order to hold its sides your mouse needs to have sides. Flat mice aren't for gaming.

>>58462755
typically you don't want friction because it's adding a force that could prevent your hand from going where your body is telling it to, thus messing up your aim.

>>58466330
Have you ever tried the sphere one? I held it once in microcenter and I gotta admit it was pretty comfy.

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The real question is middle finger on mousewheel so you can triple finger that shit or middle finger on right mouse button

>>58455065
Üalm/Fingertip ofc, depending on sunconsious comfort.

>claw
i'm neither a 80 year old first time computer using zombie, nor a millenial Yting shitbag.

>>58466968
>using the mouse wheel

What are you playing, Crysis? Splinter Cell 1-3?

>>58466989
CS

>>58467021
>>58466989
not that guy but CS is a legitimate game to want a good scroll wheel in. Also Quake

>>58455065
I'm a fingertip man.

>>58462518
>>58462518
>you have to move your whole fucking arm around when you're in a palm grip
have you ever heard of this thing called a wrist?

>>58467030
Again
>using the wheel
You plebs can't be serious. In QUAKE? In fucking QUAKE? ==REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Where is your mousehand supported /g/?
I seriously hope not at the wrist like a complete casual.

>>58467116
On my chair because that's what I sit on while playing.

>>58455065
30% claw, my fingers aren't flat against the mouse, but they're not in full claw mode either

>>58467143
This.

>>58467143
The deciding factor is if other parts of your hand touch the mouse. Only the tips touch in both claw and fingertip, but in claw grip parts of your palm are touching the mouse.

>>58455583
Those are some nice skelli fingers, anon. You should post more of them.

Razer Deathadder 2013 user here.
>palm grip and very low sens for gaming(~46cm/360)
>fingertip grip and very high sens for everyday use(3500+ DPI on a 1080p monitor)

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>>58467348
Not him.

Fingertip is closest.
I don't move my wrist, so I go from claw to fingertip when I move the cursor around.

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>>58467348
Usually not a camwhore.

fingertip well browsing and claw when playing aim intensive games

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Like this

>>58455065
fingertip

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>he doesn't use a trackball

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Finger grip.

>>58462542
I went from a G500 to a DeathAdder and love it. I recommend getting better taste.

>>58455065
I think it's fingertip grip, I just tried claw and palm and they felt weird

>>58467112
In every single Source game I use the scroll wheel for jumping. I havent played quake, but i bet it would be comfier that way

>>58468506
Oh wait no, claw. I tried paying attention and when I moved the mouse, the back of it moved into my palm

>>58468540
You don't need to spam jump in Quake because strafe jumping is an intended game mechanic there. Quake doesn't have a weird abusive relationship with skillful movement, like CS does. Precise timing is only necessary for rocket jumping which is why many if not most players use right click for jump (easier to time the two click buttons than to time a click and a button press on the other hand).

I forgot about the spam thing in CS. I guess that's a legit reason to use scroll wheel. Some mice have the feature of switching the scroll wheel into a smooth mode with no resistance, you give it a nice kick and it keeps spinning for a while. That would probably simplify strafejumping massively in CS.

>>58457309
do you like touching balls?

>>58466989
>What are you playing, Crysis? Splinter Cell 1-3?
fucking gaymers. go back to /v/

>>58468231
I'd buy one if I knew it worked with my Linux setup. I have BT but have no idea how well it would track with it. I'm afraid to spend all that money on it.

I think trackpads are way superior to mice for pretty much everything but games.

I'm not a doctor but it seems like fingertip grip would be the least likely to fuck your shit up

>>58456042
stfu tripfag

>>58462518
>moving his whole arm isnt effortless to him
plebian as fuck

>>58471303
do it for an hour and then tell us in how much pain you are in.

>>58472468
Absolutely none? I use a computer for 16+ hours a day and have never had any problem with moving my arm to control the mouse.

>>58472498
BS. no fucking way you hold that mouse in palm and not feel any pain.

>>58455065
Fingertip grip

Fingertip. Everything else is pleb tier.

>>58472671
Maybe his fingers are short. Maybe his mouse is huge.