/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

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First for cats 'n pads

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>>58421548
Second for the greatest ThinkPad of ALL TIME

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t430s /8gig/no hdd/ wwan/ backlit/HD+/81+ battery

would be around 240euros, would that be too much ?

If the anon claimiing, that t430s is shit returns, please argument yourself. thx

How is the T440?

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The X240 looks so good. People with 1366x768, is it that bad or did you get used to it?

>>58421643
T450 is what the T440 should have been. Get the T450S if you can for the FHD IPS panel.

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I'm trying to reset the bios password, as the thinkpad(w520) that I bought has a pw that the seller can't remember.
To do so, I need to access the EPROM chip to short it on boot. I have found a guide on accessing this chip on w520/w510's, however the mb is stuck to the backplate via a screw I can't find.
This is a picture of the section that is stuck, with labelled screws.
1 = all 4 like that screw (which I believe are holding the heatsink in place)
5 = all screws holding down the heatsink
I can't think of which screw could be connected to the backplate, as they all seem to be holding down parts of the heatsink, cpu, etc.

>>58421548
where can i find a genuine thinkpad t440 trackpad with 3 buttons? any recommended reseller or search on ebay?

>>58421654
you get used to it but its horrible, forget about it

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>>58421627
Not a thinkpad

>>58421738
yes it is, dumbass

>>58421654
my old laptop (dell) is the samr res, its nice, you notice it only when looking scrupulously.

>>58421748
No it's not, it's a shitty generic lenovo laptop with the thinkpad name on to make people think it's good, sorry. It has literally none of the features which make it a thinkpad aside from the trackpoint

>>58421763
its a thinkpad

>>58421783
Sure thing, kiddo.

>>58421763
dumbass

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>>58421794
>>58421783

>>58421787
prove me wrong, dumbass

Is the t420 really that bad for our time?
I consider buying one, but the lack of power really bothers me

>>58421808
its not just the lable m8, its a fucking thinkpad, nothing less (ive been posting, but am not the original poster btw)

>>58421844
No not at all, what do you want?
I bought a standard one with the intention to upgrade it to 8GB ram, SSD and i7 as time went on but I haven't had a need to.
T420s are plenty powerful enough unless you want to do some modern gaming or video rendering or something

>>58421844
don't buy it if it bothers you, dumbass

>>58421714
bump cause im desperate

>>58421887
>>58421833
>>58421794
Stop posting at any time

>>58421926
why?
dumbass

>>58421763
I agree. Every laptop after IBM line is Lenovo shit.

>>58422006
As everyone who isn't a complete newfag knows, there are several lenovo thinkpads that are still great machines true to the IBM line which are the only ones worth buying.
All IBM pads are too old spec to be worth using at this point

>>58422038
thank you, non-dumbass

>>58422038
nice try ping pong

>>58422049
media laptops with chiclet keyboards still aren't thinkpads sorry
>>58422073
Enjoy your intel pentium then I guess lmao

>>58422073
m8, that wasn't me, dumbass

I has x220T with broken thinkvantage audio shits. Looking for a machine that can double as a poker machine/spotify machine for small monies.

I bought a x220 as my first laptop and really like it so far, but should I shut it down when I'm not using it or keep it in sleep mode like a desktop?

>>58422348
They're designed to run 24/7 and many users do use them like this.
Personally I don't put any of my machines (not even desktop) into sleep mode when I'm not using them, I always shut them down because it just feels wrong.

>>58421738
>>58421763
>>58421787
>>58421808
>>58421833
>>58421937
>>58422006
>>58422073
>>58422100

Name even one thing classic ThinkPads do better than new Lenovo ThinkPads

The keys 'look' different and they slimmed to match modern notebooks. That's literally fucking it

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I'm about to retire my X200 tablet and get an X220 tablet, but don't want to get rid of it.

What does /tpg/ do with their old ThinkPads? It's still a great machine so I don't want to just put it in storage.

Lads, I have a t430s and am looking to replace the keyboard, should I go with the stock, or is this worth it?

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>58421548
Is there any hope of Lenovo releasing a new 16:10 ultrabook to replace my x201 or should I just get a macbook instead

Bump from old thread
>>58409324
>>58408154 (You)
>750 ti is a good balanced card for a pci x1 egpu setup. with my x220 (2540m), overwatch does a fairly consistent locked 60 fps at medium detail on the internal screen
Have you got any issues using latest bios? On some forums they sad that It can run only on older bios than I have. How about more requiring games? Gta V battlefield, any new title?

Where can I get thinkpads they ship worldwide?

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Rate

tfw now that I have everything I wanted, this looks pretty damn good

the lamp has 4 different light settings, and the "Relaxing" one has a comfy as fuck yellow tint to it

damn son

>>58423763
Lenovo.com

>>58423859
what lamp?

>>58421763
Things that are different
>keyboard
>design (slightly)
The new ones still have a magnesium roll cage, carbon fiber plastics, identical mouse-pads, more useful ports than a regular laptop and are waterproof
+
>better specifications
>better screen
>backlit keyboard
>lighter but just as durable
>even more battery life (my t450 can hold >10 hours easily)

Yeah old ones were neat, but sorry m8 some line of work requires more processing power which 10year old IBM machines simply can't provide

"Hurr durr everything was better in the ol' days hurr durr everything new is automatically shit hurr durr" - that's what you sound like

>>58423022
build quality

>>58424014
literally the same, same materials, same internal structure, same "toughness"

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>>58423985
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LE-Dimmable-LED-Desk-Lamp-Table-Lamps-3-modes-Studying-reading-relaxing-7-/112252435179?hash=item1a22c43aeb:g:AYYAAOSwopRYZVYi

it has to be the one I linked you to, this is the one with the 3 different modes (white/blue/yellow light)

LE makes other variations that are either in a white color, or just a lamp with adjustable brightness - no tint color changes

this thing is fucking awesome, its not a meme

also this seller acts as a middleman, they use amazon to ship it to you, it arrived the same day it shipped out (today) as I live near a city that has an amazon

maximum comfy
the only thing I lack now is to be living on my own. I'd love to be able to jack it right now

>>58423599
I keep mine around as backups.

>>58423668
idk about latest bios, I just run whatever it came with, can check if you want. I have not tried playing any games on it other than poker/tetrisfriends. I game on a much more powerful desktop, but I prefer to stay away from that when working so I use a less powerful machine to safeguard my own poor self control.

also how quickly can you make a soda flat?

What extended battery do you anons recommend picking up for the t420?

>>58424332
>soda flat
What does it mean? Leave a water bottle for some time and when all of the CO disappears?
Also I check some benchmarks of egpu and I noticed that difrence between internal and external display is pretty closely. Also noticed from benchmarks that adapter and processor won't bottleneck the gtx 750ti.

I'm currently on the market to upgrade my X230.
I'm looking at the most powerful thinkpad that's less than 15 inches.

Should I get a T460p?
Or qait for the T470p?

>win x220 on eBay
>see after winning that there is a tiny crack in the palmrest below the touchpad
Fucking why

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What Thinkpad is similar to MacBook Pro MJLT2 by specs?

Hey /tpg/

I just got an x230 so I could learn how to linux, and I was looking at replacing the keyboard since the trackpoint is a little fucky. The one I currently have has no backlighting, and I was looking at either going with an x220 keyboard (the NMB type) or paying a bit more and just getting a backlit x230 keyboard, which as I understand would be a plug and play replacement.

I don't find myself super attached to the x220 layout, but I do like the cosmetics of the keys better than the x230.

Is there any reason other than looks and the layout to go through the effort of getting an x220 keyboard to work? The quality of construction? The functionality of the keys?

Any input would be appreciated.

/tpg/ is there literally ever a legit reason to put 16gb ram in an x220 or x220t or is that just overkill?

>>58426140
overkill, and if you were actually doing some kind of graphically intensive work that needs 16gb, the hd 3000 (iGPU) isn't the best choice for that sort of thing, unless you're using an egpu setup

but I personally would never go beyond 8gb of ram in a laptop, unless it already came like that

can't wait for a few years to pass so i can buy either a t460 or t470 for just a fraction of the price, like we already do with the __20 and __30 series

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-Core-i5-3320M-2-6GHz-8GB-500GB-12-5-/322385468286

Is this a good deal?

>>58425971
Except the layout, the X230 keyboard is better and feels better.

What's the best new Thinkpad for shitposting and watching anime?
It doesn't have to be a convertible.

>>58426516
>9 cell battery
>4 hours remaining.
That battery has half its capacity.

Also, too expensive.

>>58426598
That's what I figured. I'll definitely go for the backlit one then. Thanks anon

>>58421808
>neo-thinkpad.jpg

>>58426598
>the X230 keyboard is better and feels better.
Please acknowledge your buyer's remorse and don't ruin nice things for other people.

>get used thinkpad that came with extended battery
>install linux distro for testing
>check battery life
>1:18 left at 95%
Jesus Christ, is this accurate? I'm going to have to buy another battery so soon?

>>58426712
Is that not true? I've heard that the switches are the same if not better quality.

Anyone know how to boot X220 mobo without keyboard/power button?
>>58426761
>1:18 left at 95%
What is its capacity compared to original capacity? Also, frequently charging to near-100% than discharging is the worst thing for battery life.

>>58426712
From my experience:

>texture
8470p > X230 non back-lit > X220 > X230 backlit

>key-travel, sturdiness, wobble, etc
X230 > X220 > 8470p

>layout
X220 > X230 > 8470p

Don't be deceived by people that onyl have the 20 series keyboard telling you that anything new is automatically shit. Some stuff actually improved, like the keyboard.

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i wish i knew what sex feels like ;_;

>>58426932
>What is its capacity compared to original capacity?
I have no clue. I assume it's the extended battery because it sticks out more. I've confirmed the battery life is that shit, though. Jeez.

Is there a decent battery seller, or am I to get jewed by Lenovo?

Has anyone here modded an X230 with an X220 keyboard? Did you run into any problems?

>>58423668
i use the latest modded bios for x220 (1.43) no problems. maybe look into getting the mod bios (1.46) for your t420 in there? i've never heard of the bios version being an issue, really

>>58427207
The problems are as listed in the wiki.

What is the cheapest 2x8GB RAM I can get that is compatible with T420?

>>58427483
Should add, I would prefer a Crucial product because I've never had any issues with them before

What stickers should I put on my new laptop /tpg/?

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>>58427145
>I have no clue
In terminal, use

upower -d

and under the output for your battery, you're find capacity%, and current/original capacity in Wh.
>Is there a decent battery seller, or am I to get jewed by Lenovo?
No idea, sorry, except to avoid cheapo Chinese ones. Mine is still running fine after years, as I limit charging to 50% and run largely on AC.

>>58427666
https://www.redbubble.com/people/cazum/works/12841766-green-is-my-pepper?p=sticker
Really though stickers are for women and queers

>>58421844
Power for what?

You cannot play many games on it.

Unless you are encoding videos I'm not sure why you would need more power.

>>58423599
Run a distributed computing program on it like seti@home or folding@home.

>>58421548
are docking stations worth it at all?

>>58427557
Look on their website. They have a tool for that.

Any update on T420 1080p kits?
Not the -s variant, I mean the real one

>Looking it up every month to see if anyone has a kit that works

>>58428005
If you plug a lot of shit into your thinkpad then yes.

>>58428052
Yeah, you're right, I guess I'm just triggered at the idea of paying $90 for RAM.

>>58428005
It's pretty fucking cool but I don't think you really need it. If you get it cheap, I'd reccommend it just for aesthetic points

>>58423988
>>better screen
>what is flexview

is flexview different from IPS options?

Like the flexview on an X240 looks so much better than the IPS option on an X230

Are they different panel technologies?

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>>58427696
Whoops. Here. Did I actually get the extended battery? I'm not sure what the original capacity was. Either way, I gotta replace this thing. 1 hour of battery life is no bueno.

>>58427302
The wiki has false information. The only way to swap the keyboard is to file down the nibs. A palmrest swap as mentioned in the wiki simply will not work because the xx20 palmrest does not fit. At all.

So I can't trust that wiki page if the authors don't even check if the bullshit they are spewing is correct.

>>58428721
>A palmrest swap as mentioned in the wiki simply will not work because the xx20 palmrest does not fit. At all.
Multiple firsthand sources I've found with a quick search outside of the wiki claim otherwise, at least pertaining to the X220/X230 swap. Are you certain?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-2-in-1-14-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/4456400.p?skuId=4456400

Opinions?
The refresh would be more expensive, right?

>>58428342
>>flexview
>what is IPS
>what is anti-glare

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Got a t420 two or three years ago and now i want a little brother for it. Thinking x230 or x220, not sure which one but this thread has some good info.


But i dont know if i would like the tablet version or not and that's what has prevented me from just picking one, ill probably be happy with either.

If im just using it for web browsing, some light indie games like rimworld, watching videos and the occasional word processing, would the tablet be worth it? I think the reversible screen would be nice for watching videos but i would like some feedback.

Will be primarily using arch linux and also have windows on board

>>58429131
garbage

>>58429240
Any reason why?

why aren't more 13/14 inch with 1080p?

>>58429348
Jewnovo is too cheap

>>58429382
is 1600x900 bad? 1080p should give a good downscale right?

>>58429406
if youre looking at the 430 know that the screen is shit

Would it be bad idea to have different sized RAM sticks? I want a bit of a boost in RAM, but don't want to go full hog and get 8GB that I'm hardly going to completely use

>>58428919
Yeah. In my own experience my T420 palmrest was completely incompatible with my T430 so I had to file the keyboard. Then I looked at side views of the W and X models out of curiosity. The sides of the palmrests don't match up because of the new usb ports or the expresscard slot changing position.

I know from reading these TPG threads that people will often cite the wiki as concrete proof that the method is possible but everyone that's posted here has always seemed to file their keyboard down.

It MAY be possible with a T430s because the T420s models have USB 3.0 and the position might not have changed in the next generation, meaning the palmrests are the same, but I cbf looking this up.

>>58421627

X1C2? I just got one, and I HATE that is a non-standard keyboard

>>58429223
I've got X220 and I love it but if you're gonna do some (light) gaming I'd probably advise you to buy the X230. HD3000->4000 is an ok boost and the keyboard isn't THAT bad

>>58429240
well?

>>58430338
it's not even considered a Thinkpad here
You're asking in the wrong place

>>58430354
It literally is a thinkpad.
>>58430197
This, the 220 would even get heated playing Miami Hotline

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>>58430388
>It literally is a thinkpad.
the brand lost it's value after Gookovo got it so any Walmart laptop can now have a Thinkpad logo

>>58430410
Those are just lowerend thinkpads, anon. A X220T even brand new wasn't that great, especially at it's price. The only thing it really had was build quality. Mine still failed within 5 years of daily use.

>>58430441
>especially at it's price
I though the whole point of these laptops was to buy them cheap off lease?

>>58430460
They aren't sold for "cheap on lease."
They're often bought in bulk, and they still cost a lot for consumer use.
Also why is that thing a "garbage?"

>>58421654
it's the best resolution for a screen that small. anything more would require UI scaling and that's bullshit. doesn't work 50% of the time

>>58423022
they have messed up the layout big time.
the browser navigation buttons are gone, volume buttons are gone.
the hinges are shit quality so the screen begins to wobble after 2 years of use.
they gave them terrible 16:9 screens that lack the vertical space you would need on a business laptop (should have kept the option to choose between 4:3 and 16:10)
they fucked over the trackpoint which has become barely usable with it's new smaller design

>>58426674
don't. the backlit keyboard doesn't have the same keycaps. they're polished and get stick after a few hours of use.

>>58426598
nope. the key mechanics are the exact same. it doesn't feel any different. that's just what you're telling yourself because you bought a piece of shit laptop. trust me, I've been there.

>>58430490
>They aren't sold for "cheap on lease."
They are sold cheap off lease. It's a common trend with any enterprise gear. Why anyone would buy these for their MSRP is beyond me.

As for the Yoga, it's just Walmart tier hardware with a Thinkpad logo. Anything outside the flagship lines is a waste of money. Better off just getting a consumer grade laptop with similar specs

>>58430674
>walmart
it's best buy :^) irl its actually really nice, nicer than the old x220 i had

>Thought Thinkpads were just a meme
>Got a W540 for work

I have been missing out

>>58427074
Well, if that's the case, then there's really no reason for me to replace the keyboard if I can fix the trackpoint. Does anyone know what to do if the trackpoint keeps floating on its own after you've released it for a couple of seconds? It happens enough times when I'm using it that it gets on my nerves.

>>58426602
T520/30 for 1080p

Got an i7 T510 for 95 bucks, although no adapter included any the battery may be shot. Did I do good?

Also the S&H is 60 bucks.

>>58431261
i think you mean the constant track point calibration which iirc is built in.

when you apply the same pressure in one direction for a few seconds it will start to ignore that signal so when you release it gets a rebound effect.

its the way the trackpoint trims itself to be perfect but can be annoying esp in games. i just swipe the touchpad quickly and it stops the trackpoint crawling

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Help. Where do I find this dumb shit in my X201 and remove it?

>>58431568
it's on the palmrest, just pull it off and maybe use some adhesive remover.

>>58431568
mPCIe Slot inside.

How much should i pay for a X200?
And a X201?

>>58432432
I paid 210€ for my X220. I'd say less than 200€ for an X201. 200€=210$ if you didn't know.

>>58432459
Are they really that rare in europe?

Im finding X200 for $1900 MXN, which is about $87.

>>58432432
Nothing over $150 USD

>>58432473
You can't compare Mexico to Europe. Everything's way more expensive here. Also, I was talking about perfect condition here. No scratches, new thermal compound, new keyboard, new battery, IPS screen.

>>58432487
X200 has IPS screen?

And yeah im talking about new conditions too.
New keyboard is $25 and paste is $4.
Chinese battery is $20.

>>58432498
>>58432487
Nevermind, you meant X220, i missread and i thought you were talking about X200.

They go around $140 on "Acceptable" conditions and $170 Mint state but goes over my budget.

>>58432508
Well when it comes to Thinkpads "acceptable" is really acceptable compared to other laptops. That's why these are easily the best computers if you're on a budget.

So I bought the x1 yoga from best buy. I got them to price match against amazon and they took $600 off. Now we wait...

>>58421654
You can't get used to 1366x768 because you are stuck in the 90s. I need more vertical pixels. I hate that resolution.

>>58423859
What keyboard is that?

>>58425643
Just don't pay. It won't do shit against you.

>>58432626
a piece of shit if you ask me. virtually no key travel and not even a numpad is inacceptable for a desktop keyboard.

>tfw want to buy a new ThinkPad but they aren't coming out for a while

Are the Sky Lake generation ones good?

>>58432763
Depends. There are 2 kinds of Thinkpad users.

The ones who think that the new keyboard ruined everything and the ones who don't. As far as performance is concerned, you should be fine with a Skylake but if you don't like the new keyboard... well there's really nothing you can do about it. I'd never buy a new Thinkpad though. Why pay $1500 if you can get a used Thinkpad for less than $500?

>>58433090
Would you say the brand new thinkpads keep the same thinkpad spirit which makes /tpg/ admire them, or are they becoming corrupted as some people would think?

>>58433090
I have to do image processing shit in MATLAB but need a portable device. Are the older ones fine for that? Apparently image processing is rather intensive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P50s-i7-6500U-15-6-IPS-8GB-500GB-Quadro-M500M-Win-7-Pro-/122163872070?hash=item1c7188c146:g:UrYAAOSwFdtX0b8C

Why is this cheaper than what you can buy on lenovo.com? It's like $500 less despite having modern specs

>>58433351
probably overstock inventory

>>58433330
if you have to do anything that requires a lot of power buy a T4xxp or T5xxp. These are the workstations versions of the T4xx and the T5xx.

>>58421714
did you manage to remove the bios password?
i got one in a w530

>>58421628
pls

>>58433416
W/P series are the workstations. The T440p and T460p are more equivalent to the normal T series prior to the 40 generation, with full voltage processors and modest dGPU options.

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>>58433319
They don't keep anything up. They've become consumer products. There was literally no reason for Lenovo to go to a 6 row keyboard. Have you noticed how much spare space the new Thinkpads have between the upper keyboard row and the display?

why are the volume buttons gone?
why are the browser navigation buttons gone? those were one of my main reasons to prefer a thinkpad over most other laptops.
why is the media functionality on the arrow keys gone? there was literally no reason to get rid of that....

>>58433330
how do you operate a methlab with a computer?

>>58433351
that's a dual core i7

>>58433469
also the trackpoint sucks now because it's lower than the actual keys

>>58433351
i think the P50S was a bit of a flop

>>58433447
I still havent been able to remove the up-left corner of the backplate, and so haven't had access to the eeprom chip. I will take it back apart in a few weeks if the seller still can't remember the password, but my midterms are my priority atm.

>>58429223
there really isn't much point to do this kind of thing, you'll end up with two devices with pretty much equivalent specs and you'll end up only using one or the other, probably the x230 because the t420 display is trash, unless you do something like specifically buy a downspecced x-series.

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Do /tpg/ run Windows, GNU/Linux , dual boot or others?

>>58433858
have you tried one of the tutorials on youtube?
might be a good idea to see how it would be disassembled

>>58434836
OSx, win7, ubuntu

I brought X220 week ago and I have 650gb HDD from shitty c660 toshiba laptop.Can I use that HDD and put it into x220?

>>58434836
I run win 10 enterprise LTSB and it works it is like modern version of windows 7.

I gave up linux cause I always fucked up my lamp and if not lamp then other shit.

In windows I just run exe of programs that I need and just start coding.I feel more productive in windows than fixing and configuring thing in linux.

>>58435058
All that time thinking about linux I can play some games on my thinkpad or read something.

To the savage South African in the previous thread wanting to buy from Taobao because eBay etc wouldn't ship to coonland. Use a postal forwarding service.

Aramex Global Shopping
Postbox-Courier
My-US

I used Aramex and got my x220t with R670.00 shipping R678.90 duties. R1,348.90 total for shipping a 2.63084 KG box worth R3000.

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uk, looking for thinkpad... probably going to go dankpad or a T430 and was wondering what other people in the uk have bought for?
I've found a nice T430 for £125
>i5-3320m
>4gb
>500gb

I have also found a newer looking model for £20 that im tempted to refurb although I'm not sure what exactly it is, anyone want to give a hand identifying it? pic related

>>58435466
it's something 500ish. T530 I guess.

>>58435916
>>58435466
shit I was wrong. Must be T550. The 530 still has volume buttons and no numpad.

/g/, I want to buy a Thinkpad. I have a budget of £500 (about $600), and I am a student who is after a decent webcam, speakers and keyboard. What do you recommend?

>>58435941
>keyboard
good on every thinkpad if you don't mind the new layout
>webcam and speakers
go look somewhere else. webcams on thinkpads are hideous and speakers are among the worst on the market

>>58435466
>>58435923
>>58435916
It's an Edge model.
Don't bother refurbishing.

>>58436366
Wow I didn't even notice that in the bottom left corner. This belongs in the trash

>>58435075
>playing
>good business laptop
Choose one.

>>58436395
Other things that give it away:
Rounded corners
Looks like a 30 series, but the keyboard layout is all fucked up (ins, del, home, end, function keys are secondary to media, small navigation cluster)
Shit hinges, with the outside being plastic instead of metal
Trackpad doesn't have texture
Placement of power button
No dedicated volume, microphone keys
No thinkvantage button
Plastic bottom screen frame instead of metal.

It's shit, I tell you.

>>58435923
>>58435916

I'm not sure if it is a T550... the arrow keys seem to differ, the ones on this seem to not come out like the T550

>>58436366
>>58436395
>>58436430

cheers didn't spot that! I'll go punish myself for even thinking of buying the thing

>>58436467
I didn't even have the edge series in mind. I usually don't think about these things.

>>58425643
read the description if it doesnt mention it you can complain to ppal. also screenshot and try to resolve with seller first. you can also get the replacement parts off ebay for like nothing, they pop up now and then, or buy a non functioning tpad for like 30 bucks and replace your fucked up cosmetic parts.

>>58425643
if it was visible before you bought it you're gonna have to take it. don't worry though, a palmrest is like $10

>>58427557
will this work with the t420?

Crucial 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3L 1333 MT/s (PC3-10600) CL9 204-Pin SODIMM Memory For Mac CT2K8G3S1339M / CT2C8G3S1339M

>>58436521
note replace with like machine, idk about compatibility with similar models so I would go for 1:1

>>58436670
>Crucial 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3L 1333 MT/s (PC3-10600) CL9 204-Pin SODIMM Memory For Mac CT2K8G3S1339M / CT2C8G3S1339M
also will this work?
Crucial 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) DDR3L-1600 1600 MT/S SODIMM Memory for Mac (CT2K8G3S160BM)

>>58421654
1366x768 is literal eye cancer

1080p minimum in 2017

>>58422348
Keep it in sleep, enable hybrid sleep if you're using Windows though so you can do things like swap batteries while in sleep mode without losing data

>ordered 1600x900 t420
>t420 comes with 1366x768
>return t420
>order 1600x900 t430
>it arrives today

I hope this turns out better...

>>58432654
>Stop liking what I don't like!

>>58432626
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JETech-2160-2-4G-Wireless-Keyboard-for-Windows-10-8-7-Vista-XP-Black-/301920740469?hash=item464be0e475:g:lHcAAOSwJQdXBGQK

Would highly recommend it after using it daily for a few months now, but I am currently only using it as I gave my keyboard to someone else. I am eventually going to get a logitech k120.

This is really useful in a tight space, and also has a nice look with the equally small m325 mouse next to it, but it does become a pain in the ass when I want to either use numlock, or hit page down/pageup & home/end, as they require pressing in conjunction with FN

so it is worth the $10 bucks, but I would only use it as a placeholder, backup keyboard, or for a portable setup

>>58421654
1366x768 sucks, but on a 12 inch screen, it didn't bother me so much as it was proportionate to the screen

t4_0 needs at least a 1600x900, but now it seems everything lelnovo has been making the last few models is at least a 1080p screen

>>58421654
why the fuck would you go for the worst one?

>>58423022
Keyboard layout
Aspect Ratio
Touchpad
Sacrificing keycap material quality in favor of backlighting, a USELESS feature.
dedicated media keys.
Draining holes for spilled liquids

>>58437370
lol, I hope he actually didn't think you had an argument

I still will probably buy either a t450/460/470 in the future when they become cheap just so I don't stay behind the times, but you would have to be blatantly denying reality to say that the new thinkpads don't have worse build quality than the old ones

>>58437391
>I hope he actually didn't think you had an argument
Not quite sure what you meant by this.
I think these are all pretty valid.
Or do you mean you'd find it amusing if he actually posted that expected no one to have valid arguments? it's a bit ambiguous

>>58437267
Thanks bro. I was thinking it looked decent for a portable keyboard. I usually use a mechanical keyboard but I don't think I would feel right stuffing one in a backpack but that one looks good for traveling.

Just got my first Thinkpad, a T430 and I love it
I'm really glad I fell for the meme

>>58437438
>Or do you mean you'd find it amusing if he actually posted that expected no one to have valid arguments

it was this ^

>>58437644
oh ok.

x220t vs x201t?

Is there any reason one should not buy a pre-built T60/T61 frankenpad opposed to making it yourself? There's one up for 160USD and I'm honestly considering buying it.

>>58438051
$160 is cheap as shit for a T601F, go for it. The things usually cost $200+ to build, and that's assuming you can even find all the parts.

This is a long shot, but I've googled the question for months and I feel that it may be somewhat limited to Thinkpad X220/X230 line since others have had similar issues.

Anybody ever have an issue with sudden shut off (instant black screen, very rare) and using sleep mode causing hanging and then sudden shut off (somewhat common, maybe once every 8-12 hours of uptime)?

I've tried updating the BIOS, replacing RAM and hard drive, cleaning the fan. It seems that its a motherboard problem, but that I can lessen the incidence by taking apart the laptop and putting it back together. One thing that helps for a while is to disassemble most of the laptop and then unplug/replug the keyboard, the data cable from under the palm rest, and the wifi card. It seems that after doing that, the symptoms of sudden shut off go from everyday (heavy usage) to every 3-7 days.

Any ideas?

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Guys, Im looking to buy a Thinkpad/Latitude/Elitebook for work, and although there's plenty options when you get a bit picky things are not that easy.

I would like a 14" model, with SSD and this is the most important thing, an 1080p IPS screen. Hell, even a 1600x900 is fine. I don't care that much about cpu and ram, but I want an ips panel.

Aesthetically I find Dells the most pleasing to my eye but I'm considering all options. Would like to keep things under 500 €.

So far I took a look at the Latitude E5440 and 5450 but as I say most have shitty 768p TN screens.

What would you recommend? Pls no memes. I would like to keep this for years ahead.

>>58436670
>>58436723
I kind of believe that RAM 'for Mac' is bullshit. But I have heard it explained that Macs have finicky speed and cas latency that are just not manufactured; to use standard RAM in a Mac, it may cause random glitches or just not work at all. Hence the need for speshul 'Mac RAM'

But the specs vary from model to model so I don't see how it isn't bullshit to sell just one 'Mac compatible' RAM like it would work on every machine. It's making money off idiots who don't know how their computer works; i.e. idiots who bought Macs

I may be wrong, but that's what I'm assuming. The info just isn't really available on what this stuff actually does because Apple a shit. I wouldn't want to put that in a T420 though just in case

>>58439508
>1080p IPS
Buy new.

>>58428060
Anyone know anything about this?

>>58428060
>>58439798
I thought that was resolved ages ago on 51nb.
>https://trello.com/c/GtAm93Rj/12-t420-1080p-fhd-ips-screen-installation

paid $20 for an x61 without ram or hdd but including dock. Did I dun goof?

>>58439915
51nb China Board, no clue how to read it
The last thing I saw was RMSmajestic closing thread because USPS a shit
So the question would be
Has the problems the T420 board had been resolved and no screen flicker?
And where can I buy my mod board at?

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Wow so the x1 yoga already got here. They sent it with free one day shipping apparently.

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>>58440316
Unlike the yoga 910 this computer does NOT cause cancer or birth defects.

>>58440334
>>58440316
Cool laptop anon, I hope you enjoy it

but just remember it isn't a real thinkpad :^)

>>58440316
>>58440334
bitch, you better pet that doggo immediately

>>58440383
she gets petted plenty

>>58440488
not enough
do it NOW

>>58440499
Ok I pet her and got her a treat and then she asked to go out so I let her out.

>>58440631
good boy

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I keep all my music on an external hard drive but accidentally disconnects all the time, even if I just wiggle the USB a bit. How do I get this to stop? I had to stop using one of the ports on my X220 because a piece in it broke off and I'm worried it's going to happen to the other two.

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I haven't watched any JRE in a while so I was surprised to see what laptop he's using now

>>58440930
Don't wiggle the USB

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>>58441061

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>company uses refurbished 11e
into the trash it goes.

sandy and ivy bridge laptops below $120 when?

when will they be priced the same as C2D laptops?

>>58438194
Thanks, I'll prepare my wallet.

inept mongo here;
looking to purchase a thinkpad for uni work but can't decide on which model would be best to invest in.

spoon feed me please
[spoiler]i have looked at the wiki and buyers guide[/spoiler] - between the recommended models in the OP. x220 or a t420.

how is it that the hp elitebook 2560p/2540p/2570p have a dvd drive in a 12 inch form factor?

>>58440316
not a thinkpad

>>58441528
do you have a main rig? Im in my 2nd year at uni and have been using a t420s for my day to day work. Its pretty good outside of its battery life (3 cell) I need to get a ultrabay battery. Let me know if you have any questions

also I was wondering if theres anywhere I could get replacement rubber feet or if anyone has work solutions for worn out feet

>>58441528
X220 for school and IPS screen
T420 for general use.

They are pretty much the same, the differences are that T420 can fit another extra HDD and can use a 1440x900p screen.
But the x220 can use a IPS screen.

>>58441507
That's assuming it's a right proper 15" 4:3 IPS T601F, that is. If it's a 14" one or has some shitty TN compatible screen, then there's not much point in buying it.

>>58421548
>>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
No demand to drive prices up, unlike certain other laptops.

>>58421654
Don't get *40 - trackpad is horrible with no pysical buttons. Unless you plan to niggerrig a decent trackpad ofc.

And the resolution is fine on a screen that size. Don't worry about it.

>>58423859
That keyboard looks like it's a nightmare to use.

Also, get a docking station for the laptop for comfy level 7.

is there any reason to not get a Nvidia NVS 5200M if available on a 1600x900 model?

>>58429223
Save your money or buy something with substantially better specs than the T420 if you plan on them complementing each other rather than replace the T420. The size difference between T4* and X2* is not that big and they have pretty much the same specs.
But ofc. - the heart wants what the heart wants.

>>58430490
>>58430674
>Why anyone would buy these for their MSRP is beyond me.
I completely agree. For the price of a brand new Thinkpad you can arguably get better machines.
The reason we love TPs here is that they are good machines you can get for cheap second hand. Keep in mind most people here run Linux and don't use them for gaming anyway.

>>58442807
If you don't need any more graphical power than the iGPU, you'll see better battery life and lower temperatures.

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>local shop is selling refurbished L412 for 99$ each
should I buy one? the ones they are selling have an i5, 4GB DDR3, and a 160 gig HDD.

Got a t420s for a pretty cheap price but the battery life is really bad even after buying an aftermarket 6 cell. Is there anything I can do to remedy this? Otherwise what's a good price to sell it? I bought another ram stick for it making it 8gb and it has the 6 cell which was around 25 bucks. Bought i originally for 120.

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How do you guys keep your keyboards oil-free?
This is my keyboard after a year of use, the trackpad is worn down too.

>>58444235
by not having sweaty hands you lardass

>>58444253
I'm actually a lanklet, but thanks for your concern.

>>58444282
>>58444235
it will accumulate oil no matter what, but at least once it reaches a certain point it can't get any more oily

to be fair though, you're honestly a disgusting motherfucker. I do not say that jokingly - look at your picture. Only very few times have I seen people who let their systems get to that point. Have you ever heard of this thing called hygiene? You should try it

>>58444308
So just wash my hands before using it every time? My desktop keyboard doesn't wear down like this so that's why I'm asking. I'm getting a new t420 keyboard to put in the slot anyways

>>58444346
Addendum - I work at a library and deal with books people handle all the time, I usually use my laptop when I'm there, so that's probably why it's so dirty desu

>>58444235
there's an amazing thing called denatured alcohol

you should try it (and maybe drink it btw)

>>58444381
Already tried it, thanks

>>58444371
I take that back then, I totally understand that

I know nearly every time I've picked up a public book, I could feel some sort of residue that hadn't been there prior to my touching it... yuck

almost as yucky as YOU
DAMN SON BURNT THE FUCK OUT

>>58444536
Stop bullying him, dude

>>58444590
I'm so sorry

Hey Guys,

You probably remember my name is John, and I want to apologize to every single one of you. I'm pretty sure most of you arent fat and are probably cleverer than I said, and if you guys want to look at pictures and stuff, then that's cool, everyone has a different life. The world is here to be shared, and I'm happy to share it with you guys. Most of you have probably got pussy before, anyway... I had a look around and there was a picture of a bitch being plowed by a guy with "RON PAUL /b/" written on his dick. I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people... I do it myself, but not as well as you guys. I actually met my bitch through facebook, so I guess we're all a bit nerdy sometimes.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I deserve it after what I was like. I resigned from the football team and took up chess, and quit basketball when I realised the only people playing were niggers anyway. I also tried jacking off to an anime girl, which actually isn't all that bad. I only got straight A's because my mom fucked the principal, and my hot girlfriend is actually just a blow-up doll (She just popped; Shit was SO shit). You are all just reasonable people who should disregard what I said to you, don't become "an heroes" LOL (am I a newfag or what?). Thanks for listening, no hard feelings, right?

I found a W520 for about $350. It comes with a 120gb MSATA ssd, i7 2nd gen, NVIDIA Quadro 2000M, 1920x1080 resolution, and the charger. Is this a good deal?

>>58444590
>>58444536
>>58444627
It's just a bit of anonymous banter, I don't have a low enough self-esteem to have false insults get to me me kek

I use my laptop the last 30 minutes of my shift when I'm on break, probably not the most opportune time for it, but I guess it's an occupational hazard, I take a full shower after work because how nasty I feel after handling all the books, but I guess I just don't care enough at the end of my shift, what it fucking does to the keyboard will probably make me wash my hands for ~10 minutes before using it at work though lmao

>>58444720
It really is anonymous banter, I don't mean it at all

I totally understand it isn't your fault now, I meant the comment about touching books and feeling residue afterwards. I used to have the same problems when I worked retail - I would try not to touch anything in my pocket (phone) until I could get on break and either wash my hands or use some wipes

also
>be using bathroom
>pharmacist walks up to urinal next to me
>the actual pharmacist though, not just the pharm techs
>has a mug with him
>sets drink on top of urinal
>pisses
>walks out without washing hands, takes mug with him

>>58444770
Dude, it's like that with the IT guys here

>be taking my daily 6 PM taxpayer funded shit
>some dude walks up the the urinal
>hear a clink coming from above me
>think he had a keychain or something that hit the urinal
>he finished up
>I hear the sound of a bottle being filled with water from the sink
>no sound of washing hands

I was thinking about it later, and one of the IT guys always carries around a fucking thermos wherever he goes

Absolutely Disgusting

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>get w500 a few days ago
>start setting it up with new SSD and OS
>put it away for the night
>next morning take a shower
>get out the shower, pick w500 off the floor, and toss it lightly onto my bed
>examine chassis of the laptop
>there's a crack near the left hinge that's about 2" long
>"What the fuck? How did that get there?"
>mfw
I thought these things were supposed to be durable. What the shit. That wasn't there before this morning. Replacing the chassis isn't really worth it, either. Isn't it pretty expensive to buy a new one?

>>58444235
the trackpad is a sticker and you can peel t off/ replace it with a new 3m sticker from amazon

>>58444235
ewwww what the fuck dude. go see a doctor

>>58426761
Welcome to chink batteries.

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>>58445246
It's OEM.

>>58445087
And I just got this damn thing.

>>58426761
a battery doesn't last very long. if you bought it used, the battery might have been dead on arrival. they almost always are with used thinkpads.

>>58445665
Yeah, I ended up just ordering a new battery. 30 buck chunk out of my wallet, but hopefully it's worth it. This thing was supposed to be cheap, but oh well.

just got my x201t, cost 98 including shipping. Getting wifi working was a bitch, but finally got it in tip top shape.

can it run wow is the question

>>58445720
when buying a used thinkpad you should alway plan for ~$50 more for a new battery. laptops batteries aren't exactly durable. if you use the laptop daily it might lose 30% capacity within a year.

>>58445756
I gave some leeway, since I knew I'd have to buy a charger and SSD. I was hoping the battery would be decent, though.

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>>58445756
ordered 9 cell chink battry(20+usd) and increased 2-3 hour usage i don't know will it lose capacity or whatever
but thanks for inf

what would you say to someone who's about to fall for the x220 meme

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just pulled the trigger on this, now I just have to set up my x61 for my little brother. my t430 is going to have some competition now

Can someone please explain to me why everyone hates HP laptops? Are they garbage build or what?

when looking for a upgrade display for my x200 I see different labels like boe, boe/hydis, hydis.
Are there any differences between them?
Are the boe only labeled ones worse, cause they tend to be cheaper?

>>58446889
HP consumer grade is garbage.
Terrible build quality
Overheats a lot
HP "business grade" computers are pretty gud tho. still run toasty, but not overheating.
>>58421548
Just got an x220t and lenovo power manager says battery error please reinsert battery (or something like that)
CPU is locked to 800mhz with the 60 watt adapter like it should
Also when I plug the computer in the battery light shows up orange for 1/4 a second, flashes green 2 times, then a pause then once more before it turns off.
Sometimes after that it will flash orange a few more times until the light turns off.

>>58445314
It's durable as in it will continue to work despite taking a beating, not in the sense that it is made of titanium and will never get scratched.

>>58426140
waaaaay to much. 8GB would be too much actually but if you have a 4GB module pre installed you should go for a second one because dual channel

Where the fuck can I get a smooth touchpad sticker for the T520 in Europe? I don't like the bumpy one, and it's worn out too

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>>58447186
8gb way too much? just to watch netflix, torrent and shitpost im using almost 4gb under win7 x64. if i were to launch d3 and watch netflix on my tv i use 7gb.

pic relate, just now

>>58447474
this is about an X220. I doubt that anyone would play Diablo on that and have several tabs including Netflix open at the same time. 4GB is plenty for a 12" laptop. On my Desktop I have 32GB just in case.

>>58447474
Nigger, fix your PC and your head. I can run over 100 tabs in Chrome and a game or two simultaneously - all on 4GB 1333Hz memory.
If your specs aren't utter crap - you don't need a lot of RAM.

Nevertheless, nowadays having over 4GB is still advised, due to browsers being stupid memory sinks.

>>58447417
That's not a sticker. It's what you see when you remove that bumpy texture which is actually a sticker itself.

>>58447570
No, what I meant was that the bumps have worn off and I want to replace that sticker with a non bumpy one

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>>58447583
No such sticker exists. Remove the bumpy one completely and stop using your laptop with your greasy fucking fingers you fat fuck

>>58440259
Anyone?
Where buy mod

my t420s has terrible battery life so I'm thinking of selling it, would an x220 have better life? Would the screen be better? I need something portable with decent battery life. Would the ram I put into my 420 be interchangeable with x220?

>>58447878
Get a better battery. The battery life should be almost identical.

Check how much wear your current battery has with AIDA64

>>58447902
the weird thing is that it is a new 6 cell battery, but I still only get about 3 hours of battery life with a full charge.

>>58447929
Post how much wear it has. Also is it a fake one? Those vary widely in quality and can take a few cycles to become accurate

>>58447929
but that's OK for a 6 cell. maybe you could tweak your power management a bit.

>>58447606
Then why do they exist for the X200 and T440, you fat fuck

>>58447953
>>58447959
running aida64 right now, gimme a sec

>>58447878
same i just got a t420s and it has about 3 1/2 hours on a full charge

thinking about getting an ultra bay battery upgrade

>>58447997
Check under
Computer > power management > wear level

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>>58447953
>>58447959
Here's the results, says it's 10% worn, the battery is brand spanking new so if it's fucked already then I'll return it.

>>58448057
have you calibrated the battery already?

>>58448057
The values all seem normal, 10% isn't that bad because the battery has probably been stored for a while now
Have you installed the energy manager and enabled the power saving features?

>>58447417
aliexpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-new-for-Thinkpad-T410-T410I-T420-T420I-T430-T430I-T420S-touchpad-sticker-cover/32544600202.html

dont listen to >>58447606
you'll ruin the trackpad.

>>58448101
Yeah when I put power saving on it will give me about 3 1/2 hours fully and with high performance mode I get about 1 1/2 hours on a full charge. If that seems normal then maybe it's just not for me unfortunately. I fucking love the computer but I hate always having to worry about being near an outlet.
>>58448094
no, I didn't even know that was a thing. How does that work?

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>>58448109
>how to get smooth sticker
>don't like bumpy one
>posts link to bumpy sticker

>>58448137
Open the advanced settings in the lelnovo power application, its under battery

>>58448137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedyJH6wcKM
the battery will be charged to 100% and then completely discharged under supervision of software that can then determine the overall capacity.

>>58448164
>>58448160
alright, just did this and my estimated time went up by almost an hour, does this affect performance by a lot? In any case thanks a lot guys.

>>58448225
it shouldn't affect performance. this is just about the OS detecting your battery's real capacity

>>58446889
Consumer grade is utter trash. Steer clear.
Elitebooks are god-tier. At least the 'older' models (2nd and 3rd gen i- CPUs). Don't know about the newer ones.
Got a 8560W and an X220 myself. Each serve different purposes and are completely different machines so a direct comparison hardly makes sense.
Overall build quality and serviceability is better on the Elitebook. Linux support is better on the Thinkpad.

>>58441925
Yes, I have a main rig setup but this is purely just for day to day uni work. Thank you for the reply.

>>58442091
I see, the t420 does not have an IPS screen then? this seems to come down to a choice between size + screen resolution then.

Decisions to be made..
for people that own an x220, do you feel as if its too small or adequate size?

>>58448799
X220 owner here. For me 12" is the perfect size and I don't think a higher resolution would be beneficial. I don't want UI scaling. That's shit.

I've got a T410 that I just ordered a new keyboard and set of RAM for, I'm wondering if its worth also putting in a 120GB 840 evo ssd to replace the 320 GB hdd.

>>58450061
Or if I should get one of those adapters to replace the disk drive (which it currently doesn't have) with a space for another HDD so I can have both.

>>58439508
buy something 1080p from the oulet

>>58447963
the x200 doesnt have a trackpad, and the t440 uses a completely different style of trackpad (which also doesn't have a sticker)
if you dont want a bumpy trackpad then take off the sticker and dont put anything on
sticker off, or bumpy sticker are your only option.

>>58444235
Can you post pics of yourself lol

>>58444235
clean non sweaty hands
try rubbing your fingers on your shirt/pants if theyre bad

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>>58446624
I have the exact same one, only be careful to the pieces of rubber that prevent the screen form turning when the lid it's shut.

Talking of them, does anyone know how to attach them back so they won't come off again?

Can anyone confirm whether the x260 can support a second SSD? Does the WWAN adapter take the only M.2 slot, or is there another?

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>>58451116
along with the 2.5" bay

>>58451170
Any specs anywhere specifying which M.2 SSDs it can support? Size/speed?

Still waiting for a link where I can actually buy the 1080p mod

can someone recommend me an 8 gig upgrade for the ram on my X220?

Should I aquire a x220 or x201 for browsing (Javascript sensibly blocked), pdf, terminal?

>>58451775
CT102464BF160B
if you get something else, just make sure it's DDR3L (1.35V)

>>58451836
x220 will have better battery life, better performance
x201 will be fine if you prefer 16:10
x200 will be marginally okay if you can into overclocking and undervolting the c2d cpu

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Hello /tpg/

Has anyone seen or heard from the /k/ommando anon?

I distinctly remember a very minimal Thinkpad battlestation with a T420, a desk, and an AR in the corner of some hallway. Very minimal, and I've been searching for it for quite a while now.

Is he dead?

>>58437370
>Aspect ratio
irrelevant
>Touchpad
Still there, still same
>Backlight
Not useless, performs better then a LED next to webcam
>Dedicated media keys
Yup, still there, just repositioned
>Draining holes for liquids
Still there

You literally have no arguments except the "Hurr durr 10year old machines are better than new ones because I want to look sophisticated and like I know anything about technology "

should i get an X220 or X230? it'll basically be used for programming and general internet browsing and would i be able to play some light games on either of them?

>>58452886
X230 for the better CPU and graphics. You can change the keyboard if you really don't like it.

>>58441857
What's the difference ? What makes a thinkpad a thinkpad

>>58452913
autism makes a thinkpad

>>58440930
get a better usb cable

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>>58453327