IPS is a meme. Finally an UW with a non shit panel.

> IPS is a meme

Someone who gets it.

>>58402234
An ultrameme by definition is a shit panel.

>>58402351
According to poors

>Retards think resolution stretching is ok

>>58402375
There is no stretching

>>58402360
I didn't know an EV3237FX was considered poor.

>>58402234
What's the beef with IPS aside from the refresh rate? I love mine.

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Curved screen. Distorting all images

PS. Most of the above are samefag

>>58402396
Horrible black levels. BLB, IPS glow.

>>58402396
Shit refresh rate, response time and contrast

Quantum dot when

>>58402396
My mom says its too expensive and I can't get one.

>>58402425
I don't like curved screen, but it doesn't distort picture.

>>58402456

> it's by definition curved

> not distorting

Are you the only child in your family that came out retarded?

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I agree IPS is a meme. I recently bought this TN monitor and it's incredible. Took some adjustments from the default settings but the colors look great. Plus 144hz refresh rate and G-Sync makes games feel incredibly smooth. If the only argument for IPS is "lol nice colors" I'm not really buying it.

>>58402470
You're an idiot, huh?

>>58402487
My argument is I got it free.

TN isn't better. But is VA better? I only had TN and IPS monitors so far.

>>58402234
>no quantum dot
>no hdr capable backlight
>only 100hz instead of atleast 144hz
>gsync only

look obsolete to me

>>58402822
You won't see affordable/cheap HDR and true quantum-dot monitors this decade.

>$1300 dollars
>for the same tech they've been rehashing for 15 years now
>BUT CURVED

>>58402982
it doesn't mean shit to me. i'm gonna use a finance plan on it anyways so i only pay like 100€ for a 1 and a half year maybe

>>58402822
I don't play 10 year old games. 144hz means nothing to me. Even with a 1080ti(when released) you won't be hitting 100 fps in new games at that monitors resolution

>>58402822
144hz is a meme

>>58402982
define affordable

will we see 4K 32" OLED or QD displays for $2000 this decade?

>>58403003
the more hz, the less eye strain i get

i don't play 10 year old games either

i'll get 2 vega hi-end cards when released anyway

>>58402718
VA has off-angle distortion like TN, but it has significantly increased contrast (typically 5000:1 versus the 1000:1 of IPS)

>>58403014
OLED is the plasma of this generation. It will be off shelves in 5 years.Too many problems. QLED will overtake it

>>58403041
>Too many problems.
Isn't reduced lifetime the only issue?

>>58403041
But plasma is still great, it has PWM backlighting and fantastic contrast, it's arguably the evolution of CRT

>>58403067
>it has PWM backlighting
Your sentence makes it sound like you beliee this is a good thing

wat?

>>58403067
The Samsung KS8000 and Vizio p series have black levels just as good as high end plasma.

>>58403086
Why do you love blur so much

>>58403050
Screen burn

>>58403111
I already mentioned that

>>58403097
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_(screen)#Health_effects

I get headaches from flickering displays

>>58403126
People keep posting this Wikipedia link but ULMB is still the hottest shit out there right now and keeps growing in popularity

>>58403014
Affordable for the masses.

>>58403023
>distortion
Shame really. I wanted one.

>>58403166
Yeah because of stupid gamers buying into the “omg so blur-free” meme. Dumb fads grow in popularity all the time, so what?

I want a flicker-free display. Anything else, I will not pay money for. Simple as that.

>>58403181
Who cares about the masses?

>>58403214
Hold up Imma let you finish but let me just say plasma had the best monitor display technology of 2016

>>58403282
So does there exist a plasma-based PC monitor designed for color critical viewing?

>>58403218
People being in that category.

>>58403307
I thought this was a forum for technology enthusiasts, not the masses

>>58403347
Not every one is a dumb richfag/fag with privileges.

>>58403375
>dumb richfag with privileges
HAHAHAA

guarantee I earn less than the average /g/ browser. I just have different priorities

After all, my PC is my life, so why wouldn't I spend the most money on it?

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>>58403394
If you're looking for a 2 grand display then compared to most people that live in countries that aren't African-tier, you're either a richfag or just a dumb goy.

>>58403463
>he can't save up for a year to buy a display
I don't care how much you earn, you can afford a $2k display too

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>>58403537
>can't comprehend that some ppl simply can't or aren't willing to get ass-raped
And A++ grade goy.

>>58403557
>goy
sorry I care about quality

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>>58403557
>can't afford things
>Jews win
>>58403463
>Can afford things
>Jews win

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>>58403575
>>58403583
But not so much about money It seems. It's Alright goy.

>>58403583

That's not the thing.
The problem isn't what you can afford, but that you desire the expensive shit that isn't worth it.

>>58402375
>retards think resolution stretching happens

>>58403003

>durr.

144hz is better on the eyes faggo, just working in windows it helps a ton.

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TN advocates,
set this as your wallpaper, tiled, no scaling, or just go to
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php

>>58403667
Dohohoho
Tnfags btfo
How can even compete?
Housefire lel
Bankrupt and finished
Wait

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>>58403667
Is that your first time seeing this test?
Come on TNfags, scared of not sitting down when you use your PC? Let me show you why I decided to pay $800 for my IPS master race

>>58403753
>Is that your first time seeing this test?
How do you reach that false conclusion?

>>58402396
Low contrast level, which leads to blacks being shit.

TN however have good contrast level, however their angles are utter garbage. If its not directly in your face 90 degree, then the color on TN monitor will be utter shit (the more it deviates from 90 degree angle). I own both types

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>>58403761
Because 95% of /g/ have already scoured through the lagoon website dozens of times to validate their monitor purchases, the onto person who would bring that up is someone who is actually impressed by that image, implying that you aren't already familiar with lagom

>not having 2 monitors, 1 for gaymin and one for general use like movies and shitposting

laughing at all you poor fags who complain about either TN or IPS monitors because you can't afford one of each

>>58402351
>spoken like a true poorfag

>>58403793
>Because 95% of /g/
If that was true, almost nobody would buy TN panels like OP or
>>58402326
>>58402429
>>58402487

>>58403015
>>58403652
And if you do only hit 60fps from times you hit 100+? Wouldn't that be like the equivalent of 25fps from 60? That'd be unbearable.

>>58403820
>laughing at all you poor fags who complain about either TN or IPS monitors because you can't afford one of each
I actually had both for a while but the awful TN viewing angles irritated me so much, I never turned it on, and finally sold it.
Now I'm using IPS for everyday work and a high quality VA for photo and print work.

>tfw buy same monitor I bought around 5 years ago
>did this for symmetry sake, outside (form factor) inside (pixel color)
>mfw the monitor comes with a yellow tinge to it
>can visibly tell the difference in skin tone between two identical images on each monitor, images seem blurry and the view angle looks worse
>can't adjust settings on hardware/software to fix

This triggers me, I've also now realized this is a TN panel. I might as well return it given that I bought it to receive the same image, and didn't get that. Might as well keep my money and try an ips for a better viewing angle if it won't match anyway.

>>58403617
Am I the only one who doesn't understand what exactly this post is trying to convey?

Using “goy”, posting an image of a jew and telling others they should value money more all seems to lead to the indication that this poster is trying to convey a very jewish attitude, but if so, what was the intent? I don't get it

>>58403833
Why? So they can see that image without slight color variation on the sides?
It's an unrealistic test, yes it shows the issues of TN very well but those issues aren't as noticable during use. The solid color test works fine on most high end TN displays and that logo test is barely an issue with proper calibration. IPS has its own slew of problems as well as a much higher price. I'm sure these people aren't worried about seeing their anime playing from each corner of the room or need absolute life-accurate colors, plus they're often playing games that benefit from lower latency and more importantly pixel response, so it would make sense to save hundreds of dollars by not getting IPS.
>>58403820
This guy gets it

TN is obsolete and can't handle angles, IPS is pure shit because of glow. What do I buy? Is there no around 27" monitor with 1440p that isn't overpriced crap?

how can you unironically defend TN garbage?

>>58403838
60 to 100 fps has a difference of .006s/frame
25 to 60fps has a difference of .024s/frame
It would be the same difference as going from 60 to 44fps

>>58403900
Sony GDM-FW900 24" Widescreen CRT Monitor

>>58403838
you can't tell fps if it's above 45 at 144hz, seriously.
I usually could tell any tiny drop in framerates on my old 60hz monitor, now it's impossible to notice tearing or fps drops
300hz screens when? meme sync technology is what actually useless

>>58403864
>he bought a 5 year old monitor and is surprised when it's not the same as his 5 year old monitor
>he bought TN for multi monitor
>he didn't even know what monitor he had when he was automatically matching then

>>58403880
This. When I was shopping for a 1440p 144Hz Freesync monitor I had two options, either TN with a full Freesync range and 1ms response time or IPS with Freesync capped at 90Hz and the whole IPS range of problems, plus it was like 200€ more expensive. The decission was really easy, and the fact that with the correct calibration the TN pannel is as good colour-reproduction wise as the IPS minus a little bit of contrast just settled the deal.

>>58403900
It can't handle angles but that's it. That's the last argument. With 10-bit color becoming the norm and image quality being indistinguishable between high end IPS and high end TN, viewing angles is really the last problem left with TN

>>58403912
So would it be justifyable even if you only had let's say an RX 480?

>>58403928
you can feel it in the control

>>58403943
>With 10-bit color becoming the norm

10-bit monitors though...

>>58403945
I would just get 60hz then, save money overall and it's not like the RX480 is speeding past 60fps much anyways
If I had a 1440p monitor with a rx480 I would definitely get freesync, as I wouldn't be expecting a constant 60fps in all my games
Adaptive sync is good if you're not getting all the fps. If you are getting all the fps, it's literally worthless

>>58403943
I'm sceptical about TN, on many screens you can't even look at the centre without seeing bullshit happening on top and bottom.

>>58403950
nope, input lag is under 3ms and 45-60-90 fps is what? ~20-16-10ms per frame?
basically unless it stutters(which is different problem all together) you can't tell, the most beneficial is lack of visible tearing though

>>58403988
TN faggots in this thread do not tell you about how TN has same glow and worse contrast at the same time than IPS

>>58404000
>glow
>on a fucking MATTE pannel
pls

>>58404000
But IPS is no better.
>Muh angles
Glow is always visible in corners, you cant move your head without white stains moving all over the place. How can that be considered to have good viewing angles I don't understand.

>>58403990
you definitely can though

>>58402449
This desu

>>58404029
only noticeable in dark scenes, compared to TN when it's visible all the time

>>58403988
I don't see any issues, like I said the solid color test looks perfect for me, and this image test >>58403667 only looks slightly off on the sides
I mean pretty much every cheap led screen in the world is TN so obviously if you're comparing a $500 IPS to a $50 TN it's gonna be garbage, I was personally really impressed with my PG278Q, the colors are beautiful, the blacks are solid, consistent and empty, and the viewing angle is not NEARLY as big of a deal as the Internet convinced me it was, is only noticable on the left and right, the top and bottom is fine

>>58404035
did you try it?

>>58404049
I've played video games, yes

>>58404058
did you play videogames on 144hz screen locking them between 45 and 60?

What exactly does TN do better except for response time and power usage?

>>58402234
T; fucking retarded gamer

>>58404082
nothing, pwoer usage is the same now and response time is within 5% the same as well

>>58404094
so why would you buy it? response time is not important unless you play video games

>>58404082
Price
Pixel response time (not input latency)
Price because it needs to be mentioned again once you get into high res or especially high Hz display

>>58402234
The human eye cannot perceive digital images higher than 1366x768 60hz. So pointless to buy these meme monitors.

>>58403753
>close one eye, tilt your phone and look from the charger hole
what did he mean by this?

>>58404120
why would input latency matter?

>>58402470
>>58402495
You guys are so insecure it's laughable, your only time to shine is in some le 4chin internet argument, you are living memes

>>58404194
I'm saying it's not a difference between to and IPS
IPS still has sluggish pixel transition (gray to gray response)

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>Just turned my IPS monitor's brightness above 10% for the first time
It's like if my phone was 27"

So, apart from brand loyality and being a poorfag, is there any reason to get TN or IPS when a VA panel is available for your chosen size/res?

>>58404221
nah I meant, why would response time matter?

>>58404240
Because stuff is supposed to click when you click

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>Can't afford IPS
>"LOL IPS is a meme."

>>58404262
That doesn't matter.

>>58403913
Good luck finding one. Anyone selling one knows that gullible idiots think its the second coming of Christ of monitors and charge >$600 for that dinosaur.

And if you do manage to find one on Craigslist or a local dump (or eBay if you're cool with $200 shipping on top of it), that meme CRT is approaching its end of life, so it probably won't last you another two years and will probably arrive with a LOT of DIY work needed.

>>58403913
>Sony GDM-FW900
>analog
ugh

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>>58404164
>tfw my iphone8 doesn't have a charger hole

>>58404262
Monitor response time =/= input lag

>>58404367
And that's why I made the distinction in the first place, to prevent a post like this

>>58404367
we were talking about input lag the entire time

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>>58402429
>BLB
>black lives batter

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>>58404164
>he's using a TN phone and can't see it at extreme angles

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>>58403753

>>58404397
Then that would be up to refresh rate and you can get high refresh IPS panels. So, why was this brought up?

>>58403941
>>58403880

I don't think you all understand the average TN panel. Even looking at TN straight on it's almost as if there is white coming from all the colors. I understand if you can't afford a nice IPS, but to settle for sub par products and then defend them because you don't own something nicer is the sad issue with your personality. I'm sorry but keep living the life of mediocrity.

>>58404432
Because somebody asked why it would matter
But it's not linked to your refresh rate at all, that would relate to the pixel response, which is *one of* the worst problems with IPS. The pixel response is how quickly a pixel can shift colors, basically the "maximum refresh rate" of the LCDs themselves, and on IPS it's much slower than on VA or TN
The input latency isn't related to the monitor at all

>>58404459
>white coming from all the colors
That's called IPS glow and it's not an issue if you're not using IPS

>>58404465
why would either matter unless you're gaming? it wouldn't. and you're not a child, are you?

>>58404465
And the one guy said something should click when you click. Which would be input lag and I said input lag and monitor response time aren't the same.

>>58402234
>VA

Lol enjoy your input lag

>tfw I have pleb eyes and don't notice any problems with my ips monitors

I'm happy with my u2414h and u2515

>>58404493
>Lol enjoy your input lag
Non-issue unless you're addicted to video games for children

>>58404459
It looks consistent to me, like I said twice now the only off angle issues I see are barely noticable with a dedicated viewing angle test, and only left to right variation for that
>>58404490
Which is why I made the specification
Luckily you understand that I can have two seperate conversations can't you? I wasn't talking to you when I was mentioning why input lag mattered (weak bait btw) or talking to you about why one of IPS's big downfalls is the sluggish pixel response rate
You see how those are two different topics for two different people?

>>58403874
Nah man I get you. He's a child that can't save money to save his life. You can save money to buy things you want and his child brain can't comprehend it. He's retarded and feels like $2k is a lot of money. He's the definition of a poorfag that uses insults to cope with his insecurity

>>58404507
>video games are for children

t. betafag

>>58404519
No, because we're all anons here except for the tripfags. So, I can't fucking tell who is who.

>>58403067
Plasmas don't have backlights, it's an emissivity display technology. And it's not exactly PWM either, the fluorescent light bulbs can only turn on and off and therefore you control the luminance range with how many times they blink within a certain frame. Having a 600Hz SFD means "white" is done blinking all the sub-pixels 10 times within a frame, 960Hz would mean 16 times. And yes Plasma is still better in almost everything, but it sucks in peak brightness, power consumption, heat output and size.

>>58404550
>>>/v/

>>58402234
>HP
>1 year warranty versus 3 years from ASUS
belongs in chink shit thread

How the hell you guys cant differentiate between glorious IPS color over shit TN color

too many BBC cum on ur eyes?

>>58402234
i thought only OLED screen could be curved?

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>>58404660
You mad because I have 10-bit TN color and you have an oversized iPhone screen

>>58404660
IPS color is better but only by comparison.

If you have three IPS monitors they look fine, if you have three TN monitors they look fine, if you have a mix of types the TN ones look worse.

>>58404660
don't insult bbc cum

>>58404700
no.. they have big diff..
in fact cheap IPS also look diff than more expansive IPS

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>>58404804
no
is not true

the viewing angles are so inaccurate on TN that you can see a difference between the center and edges of the display when sitting right in front of it

>>58404886
Link to your 40" TN monitor pls

S-PVA > AMVA+

Yes i do own both types

>>58403195
The only distortion is low gamma levels at extreme angles. The colors are fine.

>>58404889
I'm talking 13" monitors.
link to the documents that prove you're legally blind, please

1300 DOLLAH


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


let me go some more


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Hmmmm. I'm going for the most shitty UW below 600 DOLLAH and laugh every time i turn on the thing.

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all your arguments are invalid because TN is best for prenteding to be a real solider in video games

I wish VA was more common. I am still sitting here with my 120Hz VA panel for great blacks but meh colors. Wish there was something better, but there isnt.

>>58405044
Samsung's new FreeSync lineup looked great, untill they announced the FreeSync range. Really disappointing.

>>58405044
crt is better.
with modern nanotech, CRT would be so many leagues above anything we have now it's ridiculous

>>58405184
Why couldn't CRT continue?

>>58405203
hot, heavy and big

>>58405203
>>58405213
Didn't it also have trash resolution?

>>58405203
Inefficient and there were some concerns around health.

>>58402234
>IPS is a meme
>curved screen
What a shit monitor

>>58405224
no worse than contemporaries, no.

>>58405213
I thought advances in technology would make things smaller

>>58405275
sure. but it'd always be slightly bigger and noticably less energy efficient.
Just like IPS and TN would always have very much worse response time, black levels, viewing angles, refresh rates and colors.

>>58405203
Consumers don't want good performance, they want memes.

>>58404419
I looked it up, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla_(smartphone) it's an IPS display

I still don't get it

>he can't afford an 1440p 144hz 27 inch IPS Gsync 4ms monitor
haha im raughing

>>58403780
>caring about the color of niggers

I'm still using 2 fucking 1080p Dell monitors from 2003 and they work fine. Stop wasting your money on this bleeding edge bullshit you gullible retards

>>58405902
>stop spending money on the single most important output device your PC has reeeeeeee
>I'm okay with my hot garbage display and so should you!

Why are you even here?

>>58405847
>4ms

Enjoy getting headshot 3ms before you even see me, nublet.

>>58405971
You were happy with 1080P LCDs when they came out weren't you? You thought they were great and CRT was a dead tech right? So why can you not hold onto that happiness? Why do you need to continuously seek more and more and spend more and more?
It's sad really that you all are caught in a loop of seeking gratification that you obtained long ago. Until my devices stop performing to a standard I am happy with, there is no reason to upgrade. Developments to technology that I don't even own do not magically make my standards raise.

>>58406041
>Why do you need to continuously seek more and more and spend more and more?

Because technology still progresses, dipshit.
And I'm not "spending more". I'm spending much less than I used to. Buying a new midrange computer in the late 90s / early 2000s would cripple my budget for six months.
Now I can build a top tier machine on a whim and it will cost me a month's worth of disposable income.

>>58405902
>>58406041
But I have to spend money. It's the only thing that can fill the void in my heart

>>58406041
>>58405902
>waah waah why can't you cling to outdated technology to validate my life choices
>>>/r9k/

>>58406120
Every time you upgrade unnecessarily you are spending more than if you didn't.

>Non-IPS
>Ultrashort
no thanks

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>>58406387

Wew, good thing I have authorities like you to decide what upgrades are necessary for me.

>muh budget

Can't slouch when using TN son. That alone is reason enough to dismiss it.

>>58406511
The comparison doesn't fit. File sizes, memory demands and game graphics grow every day. You need to keep up with relevant CPU and HDD upgrades.
Websites are still designed for 1080p at most, and if you really need more space for coding or whatnot there are 4k LCDs. There is nothing driving the upgrading of computer displays. There is no advancement being made that necessitates a better monitor. I can still browse websites made in 2016 on 1080p, and still code modern apps with my 1080p sublime. You can't run Dota or do those things on a 2001 shitbox and that is why you upgrade.

I need a cheap display.
I am getting kinda tired of my chink 1440x900 analog display that i scavenged from the trash and put new caps on.
I need something with good colors,resolution can stay the same or go to 1080p,refresh rate is fine at 60hz and more than anything cheap because >poorfag.

The guide isnt being any helpful about this so i am asking here

>>58406041
All you're saying is that you have low standards, really.

>>58406787
Yes, I am advocating for low standards. Appreciating what you have is the key to happiness and enlightenment, not seeking more possessions.

>>58406841
So why 1080p then? There's cheaper shit out there.

>>58407004
Just because I already have it. If all 3 of my 1080p monitors got destroyed I probably wouldn't rebuy them, or at least not all of them.

>>58407161
So you got them all for free, or what? Why is 1080p the standard you promote when you could sell your 3 monitors and buy some ultracheap 1366x768 screen or something like that? If you're all about saving money and promote low standards, why not do that?

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>>58403126
>Posting a wikipedia link with zero sources in the relevant section

>>58403166
Single strobe backlights (for LCD)/rolling scanout (for plasma/crt/oled) to reduce image persistence and PWM backlighting to reduce brightness are not the same thing and you should stop confusing them. PWM for reducing brightness is a garbage inefficient workaround for old backlights that would color shift severely if you reduced the voltage and doesn't belong in modern monitors.

>>58403214
People have different preferences. You could just as easily consider flicker-free displays a dumb fad with the way it's used as a marketing ploy by manufacturers. In reality low persistence modes on LCDs are optional and displays that have them available almost always use voltage dimming when it's disabled anyway.

>>58402429
>Horrible black levels. BLB, IPS glow.
You literally expanded a single "issue" into 3. IPS glow is all 3 of those, except arguably BLB, but that's common to all edge lit displays regardless of panel.

You really have to grasp at straws to find problems with IPS, huh?
How about issues like contrast shift, colour shift and shit colours in general with TN?

The only tech that competes with IPS in computer monitors is VA, and that has its own issues. TN is just unusable garbage.

>>58407209
PWM should be completely fine as long as the frequency isn't retardedly low for no reason. PWM at 20kHz+ (and even much lower than that, really) is completely impossible to notice, it's not like flickering 60Hz CRTs or some shit.

>>58407303
You're right, but it's still less efficient than voltage dimming so there's no real reason to use it with modern backlighting that won't color shift with voltage changes.

>>58407331
What do you think "voltage dimming" is though? I'm almost certain modern displays don't use something as inefficient as a linear driver for the backlight LEDs, it'll be some sort of buck converter which essentially uses PWM anyway. Switching DC-DC converters aren't inefficient either, they're in fact the most efficient way to do it. Just look at computer PSUs reaching 90%+ efficiency.

Using straight PWM to drive LEDs is stupid if the frequency is very low, but that's in essence just shit design. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it if you drive them in the tens of kHz range.

>>58403929

Yeah I agree I fucked up. But desu, my original monitor is good to me, hence why I got another. Had no fucking clue it was going to be this annoying.

So /g/ I'm gonna ask for some advice about monitors. Currently I have a really shit Samsung 22'' literal TV as a monitor. Got it for super cheap used but its garbage. I need a main monitor. Is it worth buying into some 4k monitor even if my 290x can't really play at that resolution? Or should I get something else like a nice big 1080p60 IPS monitor.

>>58407521
1080p is really shit above 24", don't get anything too big. 4K is hard to drive if you want to play at about max settings and 60FPS. You pretty much need 1080 SLI in some new games. A single 290X really isn't up to the task and the whole point of running games at such high res is the image quality, but that goes out the window if you have to drop every setting, so it doesn't make much sense to go for 4K right now unless you're willing to also spend the money on the graphics horsepower required.

>>58402234
IPS is a meme, but G-sync is an even worse one.

>>58407601
The problem is I have to wait for a single GPU. What if I go 4k and just run games at 1080p resolution fullscreen until something that can actually push 4k comes out.

>>58407762
It will look blurry and aliased, I have a 4K monitor. Don't expect max-ish settings with a solid 60+ in new games from a single GPU at 4K until we get to Volta/Navi. Titan XP isn't enough, if you want 4K now with nice settings you need SLI or to drop to 30FPS. If you're not going to use 4K now there's no point to buy a 4K monitor. If you'll only run 4K in 2 years buy a monitor then, what's available then will be better or cheaper, or both at the same time.

>>58407303
just because you can't notice it doesn't mean your eyes aren't picking it up. I had a TN monitor that caused eye strain after a few hours of using it, and I have no idea what was happening. Then I bought a new IPS panel and it doesn't bother me at all.

>>58402487
can this marketer shilling be any more fucking obvious?

>>58407835
Okay this is what I was thinking. Should I go for a cheapish 1080p to use for the next 2 years?

>>58407873
>I have no idea what was happening
So you decided to randomly assign the blame to a backlight dimming method despite not even knowing what the monitor in question employed?

My 1080p panels are still running. I don't plan on upgrading until they perish (like a tv). Something would have to change bigly to warrant a new purchase if it's not due to failure of the monitors themselves.

>>58403833
We are talking VA vs IPS, dummy. Not TN

>>58404267
IPS isn't expensive. Same price as VA

>>58407262
I never said TN was good. I said VA was.

Why is everyone talking TN vs IPS?

This is VA vs IPS

Everyone knows TN is shit, I never mentioned TN in OP

Idiots.

>>58402234
The Omen X is a VA panel, not TN. VA is objectively better than IPS in 2017 and I can get one for $600. I wish there was no curve, but oh well. This monitor checks all the other boxes.

>>58407198
You're fucking retarded. Thats not what he was saying at all. Hes saying just because new shit is out doesnt mean you NEED it because more than likely youll keep doing the same shit you were able to before. But of course you wont understand this because your retarded
Kill yourself quickly.

>>58411659
I haven't seen such a staggering display of stupidity in a while, thanks for reminding me your kind exist.

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>>58411742

>>58404400
>blag libes badder

fixed it for you :DDDDD

>>58407835
Titan XP can run basically any game at the time of its release maxed at 4K 50-60fps. Also 1080p shouldn't look blurry, it'll look aliased but not blurry, check and see if there is some global OS setting fucking with your scaling and rendering

>>58407835
But he is going to use 4K, just half the resolution during gaymen
Shirley your entire PC isn't just a nice video game console?

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>>58402234
>IPS is a meme

lol this whole thread

>>58412711
no it's going to look blurry for sure

>>58412899
Solid color test works on my machine
Sorry you have poor taste in monitor selections

>>58411144
>VA is objectively better than IPS in 2017

sure, unless you like terrible motion resolution and no ulmb/lightboost

>>58412902
If you have anti ailiasing on

>>58412899
So this... is the power... of an $800 monitor

>>58402718
Slowest response time, compared to TN and IPS.

>>58412899
Another idiot thinking IPS being shit means I'm saying TN is good. There are other options.

>>58413125
Not anymore.

>>58402234

AMVA
3ms
100% sRGB coverage
3440x1440
Gsync

The only thing I don't like about this monitor is the curve.

>>58413503
Though, I have never used a curved display, so I don't know if i don't like it, but I don't like the idea of it.

Face it, /g/. All current LCD tech is garbage. IPS and TN both have drawbacks, do you want gamen speed? Get a TN. Do you want viewing angles and everything to look nice? Get an IPS. Want both? Get a CRT or wait.

>>58413673
>Want both?

Get an AMVA

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>>58402234

>TN has a shit colors and a shit angule
>IPS has a shit IPS Glow
>VA has a shit hight input lag and ghost
>OLED has burn in

Fuck's sake! Fuck all the companies that killed the plasma.

Everyone saying VA has bad input lag and ghosting, but this has 3ms response time.

>>58413794

>angle

Fix'd

>>58413794
Plasma had burn in, lag and longevity issues.

>>58413794
plasma had burn in too, and they were not reliable long term.

>>58413848
Lag got fixed pretty quickly and longetivity and burn in are the same thing
My plasma from 7 years ago is still working fine, the only problem with it is that it heats up the entire apartment if I use it

>>58413861
>>58413848
Plasma just prepared me for this new disposable monitor tech that burns in within a year
No idling allowed on my PC

>>58413673
Get a projector.

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>>58413865
>heats up the entire apartment if I use it
Plasma confirmed for comfiest display?

>not waiting for a 90%+ rec.2020 4K 120hz+ quantum dot display

>>58413886
Those have massive downsides too. I had plenty of friends who fell for projectors and you end up watching washed out shit in their living room during the day

Perfect display

AMVA panel
4K resolution
G sync
32" 16:9 or 35" 21:9
HDR
Quantum Dot
No curve

That does not exist yet. If lucky you can find a monitor that has 3 of those.

>>58413964
>AMVA panel
stopped reading there

enjoy your shit contrast stability

>>58413964
>21:9
Stopped reading there

>>58413964
>4K
>16:9
pick one

>AMVA
>Quantum Dot
pick one

>>58413964
There's a monitor with 6 of those features
And 144hz

>>58413975
It's not 2012

>>58413988
*or

>>58413975

If the choice is AMVA, TN or IPS. AMVA wins every time. Sorryboutit

TN is not worth discussing

Black levels on IPS make them utterly unusable.

Ghosting on AMVA is not the issue it once was

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>>58414009
>>58414046

>>58402234

3440x1400

Lame. Wake me up when there's a 1600p option.

>>58414071
Man I hate it when I'm 4 feet directly above my monitor
How can VA even compete?

>>58414071
It's a pc, not a TV. I am NEVER not directly in front of it. I will never understand this argument.

>>58414122
Those large changes translate into smaller changes if you are not right in front of it. I noticed this after going from a TN to an IPS

>>58414115
>>58414122
>idiots don't understand viewing angles
unless your display is curved in both directions and you're sitting directly in the focal point, your eyes are at an angle to the display when you look at non-center parts of the image

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php

>>58414165
And looking at a flat display, there's only a single infinitely small line where you're accurately seeing the color

>>58407894
you know anon, sometimes people just like to talk about the nice products they've bought on a mongolian ice fishing forum

>>58407262
>TN is just unusable garbage.
I can't pwoned scrub without my 1ms 144hz screen.
Get on my level and buy benq dope gaming monitor

>>58414182

That's not how physics work, sperg. There are exactly two pixels you see accurately.
If you're being autistic, at least do it right.

>>58414165
Looks pretty good to me from the side in this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKbCuy8hYhg

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>>58414291
But you have two eyes tho
Your viewing angle is never correct

>>58414303

What gaym are they playing in that video?

>>58414459
One of the Metro games

>>58414291
>>58414322
You typically only get off-angle color distortion along one axis (i.e. vertical), because of the way the liquid crystals are aligned, at least for TN. Not sure about VA

>>58414303
Yeah, don't know what people are on about. That looks great. Clearly better straight on, but not bad at all from the side.

>>58414483
Doesn't VA stand for Vertical Alignment?

>>58414519
Yes but afaik that means vertical with respect of the plane of the monitor (i.e. facing the viewer)

>>58414481

Thanks.

>>58402234
OP as usual a stupid cunt.

OLED>IPS>VA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TN>>>OTHER SHIT MEMES FOR FAT FAGGOTS LIKE OP

>>58413964
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>G sync

>>58416059
You're adorable. Sure, OLED looks the best. But it has way too many problems to be practical. Especially for PC monitors. IPS black levels make them unusable.

>>58402234
I pre ordered one. Will see how good it is, if it's not I can easily return.

I have a $2000 Samsung 4K TV that is a VA panel. The black levels are better than any Plasma I ever had and the colors are stunning. The picture does take a hit when not viewed from the front, but you don't have to be directly center. Video games look unreal on it, blows my IPS monitor away.

>having widescreen or multiple monitors
>when you an only focus on a part of a single screen at a time

microsoft hololens is like having infinite monitors

>>58402234
Samsung has been making VA Ultrawides for years...

>>58403304
Panasonic made some large format displays for that usage. Plasma cells can't be made small enough for monitors so you won't see anything under 30 inches. Plenty of post production studios used them for color grading back in the day though.

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>>58404267
literally this with everything poor people can't buy

>>58417144
>Plasma cells can't be made small enough for monitors so you won't see anything under 30 inches.
As I assume by this you mean 30 inches at 1080p or worse?

I use a 4K 32" monitor currently, and this is pretty much my sweet spot. Any higher or lower is a no-no.

>>58417891
Yes. I don't think any 4k Plasmas even exist. There's just a 150" 8k Panasonic made for events to show off and nothing else. Also weighed a fucking ton.

>>58413794
Plasma had burn in too.
Burn in usually isn't an issue though with screens, we'll just have to return to using screensavers with AMOLED when it finally catches on fully.
I'm sure that in time the burn in will be fully mitigated on AMOLED. It's still a developing technology, and I hope they keep at it.

>>58416594
What problems? OLED has burn in. Which can be prevented by using a fuckin screensaver or not leaving your monitor on for days.
It won't develop burn in from using a program for a few hours straight.

>>58414481
Great games.

>>58414303
IT looks really good from every angle desu

>>58402234

just gimme 100Hz Freesync 2 Ultrawide 2160p with some VA Panel (>5ms)

>>58413794
>>OLED has burn in
That's fine, just make screensavers relevant again to sidestep that issue to buy some time.

>>58402234
[citation needed]