/pcbg/

>>58361615
Just go intel

>>58361435
for gaming cpu at ultra poorfag level, the pentium g4400 is pretty decent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4NMxkFnsI
i3 6100 will destroy a 6300 any day for about $30 more

If you are running a 750ti, don't upgrade to a rx 460. The gains will be extremely minimal. Try to find a used radeon 7970 if your power supply can handle it, or a gtx 960 if your power supply is wimpy. Do NOOOT buy a 960 brand new btw. If you can't afford a craigslist gtx 960, don't upgrade your gpu at all until you have more money.

>>58361688
>Just go intel
Nah, i wouldn't get a new build at all right now. Skylake prices are being raised (at least in EU), Kaby Lake is a disappointment so far, AM3+ is dead and Zen isn't released yet.
Imho it feels like you have to pick from a already plundered buffet of old food.

Dead thread

Does anybody else hate all the LEDs and shit manufacturers shove on components these days?

Ideally the only light in my room would be coming from my monitor.

Building a gaming computer, already have the case, not planing on over clocking thats why i went with the 6600. Did i do good?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ffz8Ps

>>58361984
Buy a case with no window. What's the problem? There's also plenty of components without led's. But yes, pretty soon we'll be getting LED hard drives and power supplies.
>>58361929
kaby's only a disappointment if you already have a haswell or skylake system. If you are computerless, Kaby Lake is a pretty good purchas IMO. As long as the IHS thing gets sorted out...

>>58361999
this list gives me cancer

>>58362023
Honestly? I'd rather buy Skylake since it doesn't come with any problems and is cheaper, but i won't.
Idk if it's Intel pulling the string or the sellers being jewish, but prises have risen significantly since december and aren't going to drop any time soon.
I guess either, maybe both Intel and the sellers know that many consumers will rather buy a Skylake than Kaby Lake and that's why they keep the Skylake prices high.

>>58362047
Should I get a WD black and another PSU?

>>58362047
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BF2Knn
there I just saved you almost $300 for the same specs that are just as good.

Crucial ballistix sport or ripjaws ?

8GB
Europe (netherlands)

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>>58362168
It doesn't matter

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r8

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>a Verge article that I agree with
http://www.theverge.com/ces/2017/1/5/14165402/gaming-pc-design-ces-2017-lenovo-samsung-razer

So my understanding is that the consensus is that it's not worth getting a 7700k over a 6700k just for the sake of preformance, but is it worth getting a Z270 board and a 7700k by extension over a z170 and a 6700k just for the 7270 presumbly sticking around and being supported longer?

I got a Asus z170 board and a 6700k over blak friday and I'm wondering if it's worth trying to return them to get these instead.

>>58362084
for some reasons sellers rise prices of amd too
saw 8350 going from 150 euro to 180

>>58362168
>not buying Corsair™ Dominator™ LED RAM
pleb

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>>58362280
I wonder why..

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>>58362215
Why is it that so many gamers have incredibly awful taste?
The only area where I see similar paths lead astray of even a quantum of taste are car enthusiasts.

>>58362313
I still don't understand why entrepreneurship is supposedly bad.
Profit is what drives our economy.

>>58362318
Maybe because those people will throw their money so much easily

About to pull the trigger on gtx 950, 860K, and 8 giganiggas of ram for $120. Don't really think that's a bad deal considering I got this kawaii as fuck mobo for $20, has the hugest vrm heatsinks I've ever seen on a matx mobo. I mean really all I do is play overwatch at 1050p and shitpost. Prolly gonna dump the rest of my $200 budget into a solid PSU and case with shit tons of hdd slots.

What do you guys think?

>>58362215
>>58362318
Absolutely disgusting, the only thing missing is a ROG logo and (((breathing)) LEDs so that everybody knows your sexual orientation.
/chinkpadmasterrace/ is the only way to go.

>>58362336
See, the real problem is not the companies being jews, it's the customers being mouth breathing retards, especially the millenial gaymur trahs.
They will buy anything with flashy LEDs, 1337 like names and gaudy, edgy (((design))) for an absolutely retarded price, hence fucking over the rest of the market.

>>58362344
I think you should kill yourself

>>58362394
Why so angry?

Can I get some advice on my setup? Will it run games at 1080p and maybe some more basic ones (when I get an appropriate monitor) at 1440? Also might just get a 10-20$ keyboard instead of the one listed cause i already feel guilty spending this money.

>>58362415
Heres link, my bad.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XbJCCy
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XbJCCy

>>58362386
If you have money to blow on LEDS why not. Some people like it some hate it.

>>58362386
how else will I get upvotes for my rig?!

>>58362415
Your build is more than fine for What you're looking for. The ssd you chose is shit though.

>>58362482
Recommendations on a better one for a reasonable price?

>>58362482
why? seems to me toshiba is better brand than adata or patriot

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The White Build

My very first. Still think OS X is king.

Came out to $980 after discounts, promos, employee shit, and all that.

r8 but don't h8

>>58362540
Is that a youtuber build? The name sounds familiar.

>>58362423
Get a H110 or B150 mobo, H170 is only needed for SLI, much cheaper RAM and a 240GB SSD.

>>58362540
https://youtu.be/lIeE_270J4U

>>58362280
>>58362313
thats another trick but by amd
all 83xx are same and just because they factory oc'd them they add around 50 bucks to price (between 8300 and 8350)

Planning to buy:
Ryzen 8 Core
Asus/Gigabyte AM4 mATX
RX 480 (Unless a refresh gets launched or a Vega card for similar price)

Already got:
16GB Corsair Vengeance LED (Cheaper than the same spec LPX so why not?)
2 x HGST 1TB (For RAID 0 since HGST don't do 2TB 2.5")
Corsair H100i v2
Corsair RM850
Fractal Design Node 804

>>58362215
>>58362318
>>58362386
>>58362437
>>58362447
I really don't get /g/'s hate boner for this stuff. If people are going to blow over a grand on a PC, I don't think it's that unreasonable to want it to look good.

>but it doesn't look good!

That's subjective. I agree that there should be more choices,so if you want a nice minimalist look that also has a case window and want good hardware there should be options, though.

>>58362638
I think it's rather making fun of autistic /v/tards who want a LED (((rig)) rather than a nice high-end silent system than hating it.
What i personally hate are all the gaming products like gaming mobos and Killer/Savage/Sniper RAM that has useless features and just raises the prices of everything else.
Remember the time when Gigabyte hat blue PCBs and no gaming trash?

>>58362386
dont forget custom colored cables for 100 bucks

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How much do you have to spend to get a mobo with onboard power and reset buttons along with digital display?
My five year old mobo (pic related) has them, and I barely need them, but it's extremely useful to have.

>>58362638
>case window
>>>/v/

>>58362879
>not wanting to be able to see if there's any problems at a glance without taking the side panel off

>>58362916
You still have to take off the side panel to get inside the thing.

>>58362916
What kind of problems do you expect to be able to see besides "SHIT'S ON FIRE, YO"?

>>58362916
That's honestly why I use my computer with it's side panel off, makes dusting easier too. Don't see the hate for windowed case though.

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>>58362678
I just hate how cases are getting more and more inefficient with space. I thought we were going somewhere with removable drive bays and killing the optical drive, but we're still getting these monstrosities that count as a second tenant. The watercooling meme was a mistake.

And god forbid if you want a case without a side panel window.

>>58363092
>killing the optical drive

Please no. Digital only is a nice idea but untill we have laws saying you actually own the digital shit you buy it needs to wait.

>>58363092
>wanting this "thing" anywhere near your desk
That's why the only cases for my new build 2017 i consider are Fractal's Define and Nanoxia's DeepSilence.

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>>58363092
And if you want something where plastic does not play a significant part in its construction, you're going to have to pay out the ass or deal with shit internal features or both.
>>58363203
External USB disk drive.

>>58363261
>External USB disk drive.

Call me when companies start to ship media on them.

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Its working its working

>2x USB 3.1
>2x USB 3.0
>2x USB 2.0
>1x USB 3.0 Type-C

If USB is backwards compatible, why would they need older versions on the board?

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I think I see some posts about external optical drives

This thing is the slowest dvd drive Ive ever witnessed

Currently have fx 6300 @ 4.2ghz and gtx 770 2gb

Should I upgrade to i5 7500 and an rx 480 4gb for 1080p gaming, or should I just get an i5 7600k/7500 and wait for a better gpu to be available?

For gaymen purposes

>>58362560
SalazarStudio has a white build. Calls it Walter White.

gtx 1060 or rx 480 for 1080p60 gaming? have a 7870 now paired with a much too powerful 6700k.

Want to use it until the next generation of high end cards (vega20 590x or volta 1x80ti) comes out. Would like to go full 4k by then.

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When will Z170 boards drop in price?

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Got a 1TB SSD for Christmas so I decided to do a whole new build.
With combo deals on Newegg it comes to $750.
Using an R9 290 now but will probably get the best AMD Vega card when it comes out.

Thoughts?

>>58365115
This is just stupid, the only thing you got right is the case.

>>58365115
Wait for Zen Man, if it turns out to be good, the price/performance ratio is going to make the i7 look overpriced by a high margin.

>>58365143
When though?
Why didn't they just announce dates for all their stuff?

>>58365200
no idea, but from what I've read, it's sometime during Q1 2016. And NOT the end of Q1 either.

So I'd wait it out man, I know it might seem like a while, but there's the off chance that intels stuff might drop in price too.

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Well I guess Im done

>>58365200
Oh and kaby lake is like a 1% upgrade form skylake.

There's almost no difference.

>>58365236
>2017
>4GB RAM
>on a x64 system
Are you some kind of masochrist?

>>58365267
Yes

>>58365249
I'm currently using an i3 2100.
It's a 1% upgrade and only $10 more.

But fine, I'll wait to see what AMD has to offer.

>>58365267
>>58365284
Its also just one of those things that is incredibly easy and not expensive to upgrade

Ill get another 4gb stick when I order a new monitor in mayb 3 weeksish

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They're not stopping until your computer becomes a miniature strip club.

>>58365395
Literally a gaymur rig.

What's the best 8gb 480?

MSI Gaming X or Sapphire Nitro+ OC?

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>>58365395
>MFW there's an FX-4300 inside.

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>>58361615
HELP

I bought an air 240 ( micro ATX) case which says compatible with mini and now it seems the GPU won't plug in the slot for the case

Am I just retarded at putting GPU in or are the first pcie placed differently in a mini board?

>>58365395
Why does thermal take refuse to ever gain aesthetics

Doing a poorfag build, any suggestions for a nice CPU to pair with a 1060?

I'm from a third world shithole so please consider two times the US price.

>>58366139
i3 6100

Also, logicalincrements.com

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jVYhvV

harsh rates accepted

>>58366244
Consider spending an extra $10 for a semi-modular PSU.

How much money did this guy waste?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMRrpb

source: plebbit

Cable management is a meme

>>58366566
>How much money did this guy waste?
$4919.85

>>58363233

i like corsairs obsidian series cases. currently have 850d, going for a smaller one next build.

they also have a "silent" mid tower case line

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Please recommend me a decent CPU cooler.

Original choice was a Criyorig H7.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vjd8Ps

>>58366809

Noctua NH-D15

>>58362141
>my feel when i speak gato

>>58363092
designing computers for gay nightclubs

>>58367174
must have an intel chip, on account of tel aviv is the fag capital of the world

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Are all these parts compatible?

>>58367501
pcpartpicker.com

>>58367501
I don't think that "80+ white" power supply would be fine around all your black components. Now say what you want about gentrification, but I would argue that putting an elderly power supply in that kind of situation would not be a great idea for that power supply's health.

>>58367536
>>58367528
Not my list, my friend asked me to find out even though I know little about computers.

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>>58367536
Would this be a better power supply for him? He's pretty picky but if you really don't recommend that one I can probably persuade him.

>>58367581
That does appear to be a black power supply, but being an "elite" power supply I don't think the other black components will accept it as one of them. Try finding something that the other components can relate to.

How much of a difference does DDR4 make over DDR3?

I was looking at getting an i3 6100 for my new build but a stock i5 2500k is pretty close if not better on many benches. I'm now thinking I'll just OC that instead. I was thinking about keeping my existing mobo but it's quite old (Z68) so I high doubt DDR4 would be compatible.

>>58367599
i am a fool
i have been goofed

Just played ground zeroes on this toaster. Max settings 1080 is almost 60 fps. Definitely wasnt 60 the entire time, but never below 45 Id say. Im pretty happy since v told me I made an office computer
>>58365236

>>58361615
fuck

can I make the h100i v2 not insanely loud if i put new fans on it

fucking kill me this shit is so loud

>>58367751
did you connect the fans right

>>58367757
what the fuck does that mean

>>58367766
Well, if you connected them left they OC to a higher rpm

550 watt psu is enough for 6700k 4.5 ghz oc and a gtx 1080ti mild oc?

corsair vs 550 to be exact

i already have the psu and cpu and waiting for gpu for my itx build

>>58361615
Could someone reccie my some thermal paste

>>58367751
Consider that the pump might be making noise too. The stock fans are notorious for being noisy.
>>58367778
The fuck kind of shit are you saying?

>>58367795
Which fans shall I receive then?

It's only noisy when on load

fucking christ spending this money on fans I may as well have just splurged on the NZXT water cooler so I could have their fans

>>58367820
Since it's going on a radiator, you're going to want static pressure fans.

Noctua NF-F12s are memes, but they're damn good memes that'll last a few builds (6 year warranty)

Fractal Design Venturi HP-12s are pretty good, and cheaper than Noctuas, but only a 1 year warranty.

These seem pretty good too, though I've never tried them and they seem better suited as general case fans.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835553006

>>58367883
This is in an air 240 also btw

the goal is to have moderate sound coming from my 6700k clocking up to 4.6ghz and then playing intensive vidyo like RTS games or ARMA

I am wishing I just picked a case with 280 support now

>>58366055
there is a locking mechanism on the PCI/ I/O shield. Are you sure thats up?

If anyone needs a SSD there are a bunch of WD 240gb's on eBay from the Dell thing, I grabbed one at $40 for my laptop. They're TLC, but whatever.

>>58366566
Hahaha I'm audibly laughing. This is where these companies make the real money. What a fool.

>>58365249
Except that a 6600k clocks to 4.5ghz and a 7600k 5.0ghz. Faggot.

>>58361615
I have a 1070, a 212 Evo, a 600 w PSU, a SSD, and an 2 2tb HDDs. I need motherboard, processor, RAM and a case for around $350.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JhypVY

>>58367894
The first two fans I listed don't get above a low hum and some wooshing even at 100%.

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I'll be doing some 900p Overwatch + whatever.

>>58367962
>>58367962
https://www.amazon.com/Bearing-Cooling-NF-P14s-redux-1500-PWM/dp/B00KF7O58G/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1483772520&sr=1-4&keywords=noctua+fans

how is this

I like how these look more and it is Prime for my amazon + noctua meme points

question is do these perform like the ones you mentioned

>>58367970
I have a 1060 and play overwatch on low because in motion it looks almost exactly like high. That said the 760 it replaced was able to play on low with a 6600k@stock at 155fps. Your 1050/g4560 should be able to do 1080p absolutely no problem.
I used that motherboard in a build, it's good. 100x better than the paper thin gigabyte h110m on amazon for pennies.
Other than that I wouldn't pay $30 for that shit mouse/kb combo when you can get a chink mech for $40 and a logitech g402 for cheap. Oh and fast track even a 120gb SSD as soon as you can afford one.

>>58367991
That's a 140mm fan so it won't fit on the H100i.

>>58368016
Damn do they not have a consumer tier 120 fan with static pressure

I'll admit I'm trying to admit getting two $18 poo colored fans here

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>>58368047
Fractal Design Venturi HP-12.

>>58367961
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BgJ76X
Best possisble thing you could do, case was just the first cheap one I saw.

That motherboard support BLCK overclocking and the i5 6400 overclocked is identical to the 6600k. You can't afford good ram.

Anything else you buy will directly result in lower FPS.

>>58368047
*Trying not to get

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>>58367607
pls respond

>>58368063
That's exactly what I was looking for. Does RAM speed really matter? I know that in the past it wasn't that big of a deal .

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reposting because it wasn't answered the other day:

SCENARIO:

My Motherboard chipset needs a BIOS update before I can install my CPU. I also want to load a USB flash of Windows 7 to my new PC. The order I should tackle this is:

>install BIOS from USB to Motherboard
>install CPU
>install Windows 7 from my other USB

correct?

>>58368008
too late, I already ordered it ;_;
If it makes you feel better, this particual chink shit is a 'memchanical' keyboard compatible with cherry MX. According to the reviews it does feel exactly a real mech keyboard. I'm not very sure what the diff is but hey, I just wanted a cheap backlit keyboard combo.

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>>58368080
Keep the 2500k. I was disappointed with my i3, it bottlenecked even a stock 1060. The 4 physical cores of the 2500k is generally superior even if it's single threaded pref is lower.
>>58368088
Depends on the game engine. Some benchmarks show up to 8% pref increase going from ddr4 3000 to 4266($200 per 16gb ram). Ram doesn't really lose it's value. You can sell that stick for some better shit later if you want.
http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html
Here is the bios for that board
http://overclocking.guide/download/gigabyte-ga-z170m-d3h-non-k-oc-bios/
Just google around for a guide if you don't know how to overclock. might see like 4.2-4.4ghz on a 212.

>>58368008
also, about the ssd, I already have a 256gb m.2 in sights for like $64. Can't really afford it right now but its in my list

>>58368149
Thanks.

>>58368132
That's cool, was just advice. I bought a chink mouse and hated it. If I had one of the two primary buttons held down and tried to press one of side 2 buttons it would not register. This made it nearly impossible to play my favorite game.
>>58368153
Good.

>>58368107
Yes. Updating BIOS is way easier now than it was a few years ago. You shouldn't have problems.

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Besides the gpu becoming a bottleneck in the future, how did I do? Should I get faster ram? Maybe get a m.2 ssd?

>>58368047
You could also try mounting the fans behind the radiator so when you look inside, you don't see them.

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>>58368058
Fuck if I'm spending $30 on fans how about I just get a decent 280 cooler and bask in the quietness of that sort of thing?

I could get the h115 or the x61, not sure where to go with this now

>>58368194
Windowed Air 240

>>58368189
Fine depending on what games you bought the gpu for and the price. 470 may have been a better choice. Some games run better on the 1060 3gb even though it's an inferior card in general. Don't forget to overclock it for your free 10% pref increase.
A m.2 pci-e SSD would be cool but if you're even considering it you shouldn't have bought the 3gb 1060.

>>58368178
I believe that's a USB port limitation. You would need the mouse to connect via ps/2 for it to register simultaneous clicks.
Not sure tho, might be chink shit

>>58367926
Yep it's up no luck

>>58368213
I got the 1060 3g for $190, this was a budget build when I first built it, but then I upgraded. This build runs Doom pretty well.

>>58368241
Oh, okay. Yeah, similar thing happened to me. Running a 6600k on a non-z170 board right now because of it. Your upgrade path depends on what you value. I used a pci-e storage based device in person last month and it was pretty fucking impressive. If I were in your shoes I'd sell the GPU for something else. Again, comes down to what you value.
>>58368223
I thought so but it worked on this shit Dynex mouse I have from like 2007. I would hold down both left and right click to enable walking in the game, then press the side button to toggle auto-walking and release all of them. This didn't work with my chinkshit. Since replaced with g402 and it works.

>>58368211
The Air 240 can't fit a 280mm rad, so you're stuck with your H100i. If you're adamant about changing out your cooler, the Kraken X52 comes with good specded fans.

>>58368290
>Running a 6600k on a non-z170 board
I was in that same boat had that cheap Gigabyte H110M-A board and a I5-6400, might build another pc with it or just sell them. I honestly want a better gpu, but I think I'm fine for 1080p for now.

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My gtx 760 is crapping out and I'd appreciate a recommendation for a good card if anyone has some input. Thanks in advance.
My specs:
>Asus sabertooth z87
>i5-4690k
>corsair h60 cooler
>8gb ddr3 1866mhz
>500 gb Samsung ssd
>gtx 760 (msi)
> cheapo 500w PSU

>>58368341
Also, all inside an NZXT s340 case

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vJPQwV

I think I'll buy the case sometime in the next few days and cop the motherboard when the price goes down with Z270 rolling out.

>>58368325
https://youtu.be/LvIJnAb7DoE?t=8m45s

hold the horse

this shit right here

they are literally the fucking same

>>58368341
Grab a 1060 6gb. It'll be a great upgrade, or a good 480 if it does better in the games you play. You forgot to mention your budget.
>>58368398
Nothing wrong aside from a poor choice in SSD/HDD. 7600k would clock 500mhz faster than the 6600k.

Is a cheap Intel 520 fine for storage upgrade from shitty v300?

>>58368590
Most AIOs are from the same manufacturer. Just saying that the X52 comes with better fans.

>>58368638
Yeah I'll probably just switch those out then

>>58362130
That's a shit psu.

>>58361999
Keep that psu, get a different cpu cooler. Also why the fuck is RAM that expensive in leaf land? Buy 2x8GB at the same time, not two different sticks. Asus makes good products but if it ever does have issues, customer support will be shit. EVGA cs is amazing but the products fail more often than asus. Not sure about msi/gigabyte but I don't like gigabyte personally due to issues with them in the past.

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Bought pic related today, did I do good?

>>58368682
where are the vents

>>58368625
I bought all those parts a while ago actually. What would you say is a good SSD/HDD combo?

>>58362214
>cooler master
Get a cryorig or scythe instead. 212 is a bitch to mount if you've never installed one before.

Switch that, and get a better psu, preferring gold+. Also, does that mobo even support 3000 MHz RAM?

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>>58368705
On the opposite side panel

>>58368682
Does that have a psu mount on the top?

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>>58368750
Yeah, you can see it better in this pic

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>>58368325
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2015/april/corsair-hydro-series-cpu-cooler-decoder-ring-and-case-compatibility-chart

according to corsair the 280 does fit

What the fuck is going on here? Are they full of shit on their own site?

Also I get people saying you need to have your radiator exhaust air. That would mean the 240 exhausts air out the front because that's the only spot you can fit the radiator. Is this really what I should do?

Just got meme'd out today with this purchase, was gonna be an AMD waitfag but my mobo died finally.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4tWGd6

>>58368682
>>58368728
>>58368775
I'd get these in a heartbeat if not for the fucking ugly IO and bright and gigantic inwin logo.

>>58368710
They're not bad products I just don't feel that paying the samsung premium is worth it anymore since there are cheaper drives with the same performance now.

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>>58368777
Site's probably full of shit.

Also, if the top and bottom are filtered (looks like they are), you could try intaking from the top and bottom and exhausting air through the front where you're mounting your radiator.

>>58368807
>$85 optical drive

>>58368625
Right, thanks. Yeah my budget is pretty open since I'm only buying this one part. I mostly play CSGO, Arma, Dota, Overwatch etc.
I was really looking at the 1060 and hear OC on them is good. Thanks mate.

>>58368859
Similar to what I play, 1060 6gb does better in OW. I hit almost exactly 144hz @ 1080p ultra. Don't get the evga non-superclocked gaming. I bought one and aside from the fact that it literally caught fire last week the stock cooler is punier than the intel one.

>>58368807
>au
RIP your wallet. Get a different cpu cooler. The 212 is pretty fucking big. I'd get a cryorig h7 or a noctua instead.

Also, do you really need kaby lake? The mobo looks nice but the cpu is not THAT big of a step up from an i5-6600k. Skylakes are compatible with z270 mobos and kaby lakes are backwards compatible with z170s, afaik.

>>58368824
That's really the only thing I hate about it, I'm considering covering up the in win logo

>>58368892
What brand /model would you recommend? My knowledge of the companies that put them out is shit-tier

>>58368976
Region? US, EU?

>building a PC in the year 2007 before both ryzen and vega are released

its like you enoy pissing away money

>>58368989
I think that Ryzen will be an incredible increase in value for people looking at HEDT, as will Skylake-E. That said, I don't see too much wrong with a 7600k/rx480 or 1060 build right now.

>>58368983
US, east coast

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Why couldn't the GPU just have it's own compartment so it isn't always fucking up CPU temps?

>>58369045

>box in a component with a heatsink

Yeah, genius.

>>58369002

I do. For practically the same price you will be able to buy a system that is a whole generation ahead in both the CPU and GPU department in about 3 months. Vega is going to smoke 480's/1060/1070's and 1080s in most games.

That is value my friend. Raj said it himself, he wants people to play at 4k for less than a grand. Imagine how it will perform at 1440p.

Historically this is the worst time to buy a PC right now, with the current hardware and prices.

>>58369060
Just have vents all around it

>>58369024
With the 1060 every card aside from the white galax one is only going to give you a 10% overclock. That said the card scales incredibly well with a memory overclock so it's somewhat important to have decent cooling and power delivery. The MSI armor model uses the same PCB as their expensive gaming X model and would be my choice right now for a budget buy.
If your case is really small or has shit airflow the ASUS blower cooler model called the "turbo" would be worth looking at. It will dump the heat outside of your case instead of inside of it like other designs.

Those are both $250 cards, at $280 you can get a double fan evga model for the warranty, they RMA'd my card no questions asked which was nice.

>>58369067

I mean, I guess? Do your CPUs melt frequently?

>>58369095
They get significantly hotter because of GPU blasting heat out yes

>>58369095

GPU's* my bad

>>58369099

I meant GPU's, maybe just buy a better heat sink and more case fans?

>>58369063
I'm not willing to get into an argument over what vega will do because I just don't know. I hope you're right because FUCK g-sync markup.
I did a build in 2011 at this time of year. 2500k/6950. The 6950 unlocked to a 6970. That and of course the 2500k which was brand new at the time lasted me forever.
Unless the games you want to play aren't out yet you're not going to see a huge increase in perf from getting additional cores at the i5 price range and will do better with a 7600k at 4.8-5.0ghz. We're probably going to just get a Pascal refresh this year from nvidia and, as I said, I don't know shit about Vega aside from the CES info and Doom/battlefront gameplay.

>caring about how hot your shit gets

if its stable and its not shutting down its fine

t. computer expert for 20 years

>>58369158

The hotter something runs the faster it will shit the bed and be less stable though, right?

>>58368849
Yeah, fucken straya m8 and its the cheapest blu ray.

>>58368899
The 212 is getting re used from the dead rig and it just fits in the new case, so it stays. The cryorig H7 would be nice, but the 212 still does the job well for its age.
No 6600K in stock at the 4 close local stores, so I just ate the premium for the z270 and kaby lake.

>>58369158
GPUs will reduce their maximum boost clock long before they shut down. A watercooled 1060 will hold 2150mhz rock solid at 50c, air cooled will throttle all over the place at 70c+

my mobo has 2 headers for the HDD light, one isb positive and negative, while the other has a positive and two negatives.

What gives?

>>58368989

>buy ryzen and vega when they come out
>unlocks

How long should people wait for new builds, in your opinion?

>>58369237

wait till they come out, look to see how they match up with 6700k/7700k, if intel has anything (they don't), and then buy

3-4 months max.

We don't know what Nvidia is planning to do, they can skip the 1080 ti once they get a check at Vegas performance and go straight to Volta (which they already have developed for their car shit) or if they think the 1080 ti can beat vega they will just milk pascal for a little longer.

The point is, were on the cusp of a big TICK. Even if Ryzen sucks, Vega already looks incredibly promising.

>>58369274
I agree completely and am personally extremely excited. This is my hobby, shit that gives my life meaning right now. Anyway if I needed a computer right NOW I would buy one NOW. Worse case you take a bit of a hit reselling.

>>58369274

I built mine now and I'm not especially fond of my build.

But I needed to get away from my Inspiron 15 like>>58369306 said.

I'll probably wait a few years and sell it to someone for Gun money or some shit like that. It's got an FX8350, G skill ripjaw ram, an MSI 1060 card, and an MSI970 board.

I only knew I fucked up when I saw a build with an i5 6500k, H110M mobo, corsair vengeance RAM, and the same card was only a dollar more with a cheaper keyboard.

But whatever. Everyone's learning.

>>58369356
That's quite the fuck up. Is the build fulfilling it's purpose? If it is, be happy. When you purchased it you were okay with paying whatever you did for the amount of performance you were receiving.

>>58369391

Install issues with win10, it's been sitting on my desk for a little under a week.

Really fucking annoying.

>>58369409
Not sure this is the place for tech support but a while ago Freenode used to be pretty good for free help.

im going full retard and buying another fury x to crossfire them so I can get 80-90+ fps in gta v with mods

this hobby is retarded

>>58369444

I'm probably just gonna take it to the windows store and see what they can do.

It was their media creation tool that dropped the ball in the first place.

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I have a html table but heres a screenshot of a part of it
What do you think?

>>58369636

How much did this cost you/what do you use it for/how does it run?

>>58369650
that costs about 13k USD
uses include lots of VMs, working with huge databases and other data.
the RX 480 is there for a Windows VM for games and such

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Are the 100-series motherboards compatible with the Kaby Lake out-of-box now? If not, how will I update the BIOS without CPU?

>>58369715
Just get a 200 series board.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250-PC-MATE.html

They support DDR4-2400 RAM which is 12.5% faster over DDR4-2133.

>>58369753
b-but they're more expensive, and most are not even out yet.

I'm going for kaby lake pentium, not an intel core. Don't really want to spend more for a meme.

>graphics card finally starting to act weird and generally wants to die
Well lads, rip the 7770 crossfire meme.

What's the best single GPU to replace two 7770s? Budget isn't totally fixed but is midrange

>>58369920
>midrange
In order from least to most expensive: 470 4GB, 480 4GB, 1060 6GB/480 8GB.

>bought a biostar motherboard.

How badly.did i fuck up?

Australia:

my very budget build.
https://www.pccasegear.com/sc/zUr

not sure whether that's good idea whether its going to be worth it or i should fuck it and put another $700 and get something better.

still need to get a new monitor. so more expenses.

>>58369992
never heard of them/10

After the no-show at CES I decided not to wait for the 1080 Ti and went full retard with a Titan X Pascal.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZc2jc

Just ordered it all, can't wait to start bending some acrylic.

>>58370037
Lotta memes going into that build but I'd get a different hdd like HGST or something.

>>58367958
>P4

AMD rx480 8GB ASUS/MSI
GTX 1060 6GB Asus/MSI

i'm not a jew so price is not an argument.
Rule: Nvidia and AMD fanboys are not alowed to rage. (Especially amd fanboys)

>>58370162
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zZc2jc
I could spend roughly $800 less than you did and beat that machine in every benchmark.
The gpu isn't thermal limited for overclocking and a delidded 7700k with an air cooler will out preform the 6700k under water.
I hope it at least looks nice. What a waste.

>>58370258
You're going to start a debate in which people try to prove which card is better in all games. This isn't a real scenario, you aren't going to play every game. Only you know what games you are going to play. Do you like AAA shit? It seems like most of it favors the 480. Are you a Blizzard guy? Go 1060. You need to look up benchmarks. Also it seems that if you ever plan on upgrading the cooling the 480 is the way to go. I have a ssmall watercooler on my 1060 and it's not going higher than 2150mhz. The 480 would be at 1450+ mhz which would beat the 1060 in almost every game. A shame, really.

>>58370258
480 my man

>>58370320
I'm going to play these games:
>witcher 3
>DOOM (yeah i know vulkan bla bla)
>FF15
>db xenoverse &2

And future new AAA games.
I want my gpu to run new games for the next 3 years or so
I know that i will have to lower from ultra to very high to high to medium at some point.
Also from what i've seen from the benchmarks is that gtx1060 performed better on more games and that rx480 is hotter.
Im not going to upgrade cooling btw

>>58370279
I'd be very interested in seeing some evidence that supports your claim of the 7700k overclocking better than the 6700k that doesn't show a tiny difference accountable by the silicon lottery. Everything I've seen so far paints them as a dead heat. Optane and 4k Netflix mean nothing to me so I went with the one that is £50 cheaper.

I'd also be very interested to learn about your proposed card that will beat the Titan X. Unless of course you meant a dual card setup, which I judged not to be worth the other drawbacks.

You are of course right about the Titan X not being thermal limited. Once it starts trying to suck more than ~305W there isn't any more it can give. Watercooling this build is primarily for silence and aesthetics. It's my first time doing a custom loop so I'm looking forward to spending my time putting the whole project together.

I know I've gone well off the price-performace curve into retard territory. I've been building PCs since I was 14 and it feels nice to not have to worry about budget and just tick every box for once.

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>>58370370
I would buy the same GPU, no single card compares. I was teasing you for spending so much on the water cooling when the same performance is obtainable with air. The maintenance for air is also far less troublesome than water.

What I've read about the kaby chips is that they're clocking at 4.9-5.0 depending on lottery. Whats the average for the 6700? Like 4.7 I think. There seems to be a much larger difference between the 7600k and 6600k.
The 6600k usually falls around 4.5ghz where a bunch of people are hitting 5.0 on the 7600k.

I understand that water is usually for aesthetics these days. I'm just a poorfag and cannot comprehend spending so much on it. I also read a thread I found through google that compared a full custom loop to a hybrid gpu and AIO on the CPU and they were almost identical.

P.S. Spend the $50 on the delidding tool. You're going balls to the wall with this build and I can't help but feel that Intel's garbage thermal paste is squandering your crazy cooling setup.

>>58370360
Alright, I'm going to google for you because I woke up at 1 AM and am fucked. Also, I'm having trouble finding benchmarks with the new rx 480 drivers. What you should do is google and find a rough percentage for how much it gained.
>witcher 3
1060 by 7%
>DOOM
RX480 by 12%
>FF15
prob gonna run like shit on everything and be a shit port
>DB Xenoverse
Light game, don't worry about it.

I'm going to say RX480, but get a nice one. Simply for the sake of freesync.

>>58370435
I thought about delidding but didn't want to slice my fingers/scratch the die with a razor and didn't trust the vice method not to bend the PCB. I hadn't heard of the tool, thanks for letting me know. I'll see if I can find any UK stores that sell it.

>>58370469
My biggest fear for the rx480 are
>heat
>only DOOM will be insanely optimized for vulkan
>vulkan won't be used a lot

Gtx 1060 runs better on opengl right ?

>>58370487
desu http://rockitcool.myshopify.com/
>>58370490
I compared 1060 opengl to 480 in vulkan. I get what you're saying with Doom though. I own the game, played like 60 hours. It is a technical masterpiece. A game that looks that good shouldn't be running at 144fps on my hardware. Screenshots and youtube videos DO NOT do it justice at all, the game is incredible in motion. I did a second play through after picking up a $190 144hz monitor and it was even better.
If id software can do it why aren't more games made that well?

There isn't going to be a major difference between the two cards. My specific 1060 is the loudest thing I have ever heard before I replaced the cooler. I mean it's completely obnoxious. A well made 480 will not be too hot, heat barely means anything. Nvidia cards have artificial limitations in the reference designs, and most customs, to keep overclocking in check. Not sure whats limiting the 480 but the gamersnexus hybrid didn't do much better than an aircooled card.

>>58370542
I'm still not sure what to get. I need it future proof at least 3 years.im going to buy in 6 months. Will there be any difference in 6 months ?

>>58370577
The whole market will change. nvidia will release either their pascal refresh or volta, vega will be out.
Why are you researching now?

>>58370592
This is the first time i'm building a pc. I know everything now (why i started researching this early) exept for the 1060vs480 thing. I'm going to buy a pc after 6 months, i know the market will change so i already made a gtx1070 backup build for when prices will lowrt

>>58370542
>http://rockitcool.myshopify.com/
Neat, international shipping is only $10.

Ordered, thanks again.

>>58370649
The rx480 has shitty drivers. 1060 is expensive but more reliable

>>58370649
Don't get paralyzed by choice. When you have two close cards at worst they're going to go back and fourth by 10% on games. Usually even less than that.
In 6 months there will probably be a rx480 replacement based on vega and if nvidia doesn't have an answer your choice is easy.

>>58362234
having gotten a good deal on a skylake shoots the bang-for-the-buck up so much that returning for a kabylake is completely unreasonable

>>58370666
sorry wrong thread, how do i delete posts?

>>58362195
is this a meme???

>>58365200
march

for FX series overclock your mobo will fry over time as a air cooler will just dump all that heat into your case, and the mobo will then have to try cool its mosfets with airtemps of 35-40+ c.... That aint gonna work, and those mosfets will die over time, a short time i must add.

woah is this true? never heard of it before

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>>58370708
Yes. Although there is still testing that needs to be done in my opinion about ddr4 scaling. Here are some links for you
http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-intel-z170-finding-the-best-ddr4-memory-kit-speed_170340

Is crossfire worth it?

I'm considering rx480 over 1060 because of the possibility to crossfire eventually, but it brings up issues of higher form factor (I was gonna micro atx originally) and higher wattage psu (was gonna go for 550w originally).

Is the performance boost in games worth all of that? It seems quite fiddly and almost like more trouble than it's worth.

>>58370677
Stfu faggot you're not me

>>58370846
fuck i did it again. sorry /pcbg/ i'm having trouble configuring appchanx.

>>58370861
Good troll even i thought i posted that le xD

Is there any difference between a mini GPU and a full sized one?

>>58370904

the size

>>58370904
I bought the mini 1060 with only one fan and it is so loud I can hear it with headphones on and music playing. Also no memory/vrm cooling

What's a good 4GB budget gpu?

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this is my first build since 2005

i have no idea what hardware is good right now. will this machine play dota 2 and hearthstone on medium settings?

>>58371012
if you're going for budget, get 2gb
nothing is worth the jump in price, its more of a max out feature but won't have that much impact

Is a FX83xx still relevant if bought second hand?

>>58371049
0/10

>>58371049
>current year
>falling for the 16GB RAM meme

>>58371094
I'm mostly going to be emulating and messing around in UE4/Unity. I've got a decent CPU but I'm not sure how good a GPU I need. I always assumed 4GB was the standard these days.

>>58371157
i advise you go to game-debate to compare the 2GB and 4GB GPU you are considering to see for your're self if its worth it.

>>58371049
>xxDDDDD
fuck off retard

>>58371144
It's a meme cuz ur still playing games from 2003 you poor fag

>>58361829
how much is too much for used 7970?
the best I can find is 120-150 euros

>>58371012
380

>>58371287
>he thinks 8GB is the standard
>he doesn't max out his RAM
You might as well play games on your calculator, nigger.

I've already got an old GPU to throw in, but the purpose of this rig is a living room PC. Primarilly running emulators (hence the CPU), but I may occasionally play a few modern AAA controller friendly titles like Doom. I've already got an XBox 360 wired controller for it too. $300 for a better living room experience than any console seems good to me.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q9V3sJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q9V3sJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($50.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($43.00)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 750GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $297.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-07 09:28 EST-0500

>>58371049
this posy made me laugh, anyway

>>58372059
Why did you take that one over the g4400


Also what are those deals from? The mobo is half

>>58372196
Microcenter.

The G3258 can be OC'd to 4.4 GHz+ and has much better performance than the G4400. Plus I already had the DDR3 memory.

Whats the best graphics I can get that wouldn't be bottlenecked by my i5 2500K?

>>58372059
>Emulators
You'll want a good CPU then, they do more work in emulators than GPUs do.

>>58372587
emulators use max 2 cores

>>58372587
the G3258 is perfect for emulators honestly. It's single-core performance is bananas, matching the 4790k. It lacks multi-threaded performance, but it being unlocked and OC'able on h chipset boards to 4.4 GHz+ makes it perfect for a cheap emulator HTPC.

This thread should be dead. Only viable advice you need right now is to not buy anything until the new cpus are released

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>>58372059
Built mine for a similar purpose, but cheaped out and mine cost me less than 150 eurobucks with some free spare parts.
Mobo: Asus H81M-C (€35)
PSU XFX 450W (Free)
Cooler: Artic Freezer 7 pro (€15)

SSD was only €50 when I bought it over 6 months ago, they've gone up since then sadly

Some important notes!
>Make sure the mobo you buy has a BIOS that allows overclocking on a H series chipset, most H81 boards do, but I'm not sure about H97
>Windows 7 WILL fail to boot if you overclock on a non Z series mobo, windows 10 may also. You can get around this by deleting a file called GeniuneIntel from the Windows system directory, google it. Windows 10 may try and redownload the file through windows update, I'm not sure.

My chip sits at 4.3Ghz @1.3V. Max temp 60C, isn't stable at 4.5 sadly but YMMV
My 7850 (which is a 270) sits a bit lower than shown @ 1200 Core and 1300 Mem with a core voltage of 1.225V, you will need to use MSI afterburner to unlock the voltage. You can run 1100/1250 @ 1.15V if you're concerned, reaches 75C at 1.225 but my cooler is high-end dual fan.

>>58371489
You might as well be a nigger.

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Biostar + FX8320

How fucked am I?

>>58372821
not him but is 450w enough or 350w but for fx4350 with 260x?

So this is my computer:

Processor: AMD A4-4000 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 210
HDD: 500 GB
Windows 10 home.

I'm getting a job and planning to upgrade. What would be the first thing you'd change to her?

What's a good $100 monitor?
Looking at the Asus VE247H at the moment.

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>>58372869
Use a PSU calculator such as http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

According to it, 350W should be fine if you don't overclock it too far, just make sure it's a decent brand or at least 80PLUS certified

>>58372877
I'd probably just buy a better used system, what's your PSU? If you don't plan on gaming and just use it for general tasks, an SSD is by far the best upgrade.

Does a micro ATX motherboard need any specific Case/PSU or will any work and fit?

>>58372977
Yes

>>58373024
I''ve got a mid tower case and Corsair Builder 500W 80+ PSU.
Would a microATX MB not work/fit with these?

>>58372767
The lowesy price is 150 usd so this doesn't apply to certain budgets

>>58373042
It'll fit fine. You can put smaller motherboards into larger cases, but you can't go the other way around. Hell, you could put an ITX motherboard in a full tower if you wanted.

>>58373161
Thanks.
Got the PSU but not the MB yet. Didn't want to open anything until I was sure everything fit.

>>58372496
Nvm. Wow, turns out it goes up to 970 which is beyond my price range anyway.

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Unsure on what ~550W PSU to get. Will eventually add one more of each of those hard drives. Also unsure about what 1080p monitor to get.

Will be playing some games, Civ, titanfall, maybe halo wars, then some lower spec games. And general computer stuff.

Also for science. Might involve image analysis from very powerful microscopes (3d rendering, opening 100 images at a time for image stacking), statistics in R, other science stuff.

>>58372864
Reported to the CIA for building a bomb.

>>58373161
isnt it bad to put small form into big case since it will have to move more air?

>>58372864
holy fuck. 4 phase VRMs and no heatsink? You're fucked. Underclock and/or undervolt to save your board or buy a new one.

>>58373252
Are you retarded?

QUICK

someone make a Z270 BUIKD UNDER $2K

>>58364984
wait for a Holiday so they have an excuse to lower prices.

>>58373242
>(3d rendering, opening 100 images at a time for image stacking), statistics in R, other science stuff.
If your budget allows it get an i7, your applications will profit from HT.
>6600
>Z170
Spot the mistake, m8.

>>58361615
I won't say much but I'll say this and be on my way:

Please don't buy an FX-8350, I can't watch someone buy that chip knowing how awful it is.

It's architecture is not only old, but just plain garbage. It's an inefficient little square of heat and sadness.

I myself have had one for several years now and it's been terrible. I'm a heavy gamer and a graphic designer. It sees daily use, was overclocked to 4.3 GHz for a while then reset to factory., and has always been liquid cooled (H100i GTX atm). Dude, get Intel. Get a fucking experimental chip from the Chinese for all I care, just never get an 8350.

>>58373299
>put fan outside
>turn it on
>it will fry itself under the load of moving the entire atmosphere

>>58373313
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xmqsvV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xmqsvV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($314.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.03 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($394.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.45 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1542.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-07 11:16 EST-0500

>>58373388
>3388
Those integers triggered a synaptic response in my parietal lobe.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xmqsvV
Decent but you can save money without compromising the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QGcf2R
PNY 1070 is higher clocked while cheaper, 6700K + Z170 is also cheaper and performs just as good when overclocked, which i guess you'll do.
Rest of the parts are fine.

I finished my build but I have no money for the ssd
I thought of using an old HDD while I wait for my SSD but being w8 I'm having a hard time with drivers
I remember the assistive technology trick but it doesn't seem to work anymore
What should I do? (This hdd has w8 from a commercial prebuilt pc so I may not have a key)
I think the only drivers I'm missing are networking but I couldn't test gpu

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what should I upgrade first bros? I'm not in dire need of upgrades so I'm gonna do it piece by piece every time I get paid.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZ298K

Friend just sent me this list. How retarded is he?

>>58373354
Is it overclock capable motherboard but not overclock capable CPU? Does it matter? The motherboard has enough ports and such and the price is good. Unless not overclock capable ones are a lot cheaper.

>>58374016
Get a 240GB SSD, another 8GB RAM if you feel you could use that but otherwise... you're good, save your money.

>>58374052
Yes that does matter. You can only OC locked Skylake CPUs on certain Z170 boards by flashing an older/custom BIOS and doing BCLK OC.
If you don't want to OC i suggest you get a B150 mobo and drop down to 6500, if your budget allows for it you could think about getting an i7 for your scientific stuff.

>>58373299
why? doesnt it take longer to move air from bigger "cube" than smaller one?

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Will I regret not getting a case with a window on it?

>>58373496
You just negated the entire reason for that build. Look at what he was replying too.

>>58374243
You're retarded.

>>58374440
Oh.. well, glad i could help, i guess?

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4vyDnn

Can I get a rate/advice on this? Its gonna be my first build so I'm going the more cautious route before actually starting the build.

>>58374474
That build will barely draw 400W when overclocked, 850W PSU is overkill.
What features do you need from the motherboard that couldn't be filled by one that's much cheaper?

>>58374029
save money by not getting the 'pro' version of windows 10 (features you will probably never use), also the 1080 is overkill - a 1070 is a better choice - but if you do get a 1080 get one with a aftermarket cooler(msi,gigabyte etc...), a 1 Tb m.2 drive is also a bit strange - but if you have the cash you will have enough capacity for games for the next 8 years, 850 watts is also overkill - Intel/Nvidia builds work well with 550, but if you're planning on using 2 cards in the future go with the 850watts

gpu's as the years go by tend to use less power one generation after another, not more

>>58374559
PSU mainly because I'm being safe
I'm using the motherboard just for being able to OC my cpu since one of my mates owns it and says it has never let him down.
If you're trying help me save money, don't. I appreciate it and all but I made this build mainly to be a beefy as fuck/overkill futureproof PC.

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>tfw just bought an MSI 290x for $160

>>58374474
Get the 6700K instead, rethink if you really need such an expensive mobo, LED RAM is wasted money, 3TB drives are generally less reliable, case is a meme, no need for Noctua industrials and stay away from single radiator AIOs, they are all shit.
Nice taste with the keyboard, thinking about getting a Ducky ONE TKL MX brown or blue + O-rings.

>>58369089
Appreciate it man, I'm gonna start looking. I feel like the airflow in my system is pretty weak, plus it's all pretty cramped and I'm worried a larger card won't fit as easily.

>>58374668
Why not the 7700k if I may ask? Its like an actual $10 difference here.
Also I'm set on the mobo because why not.
LED RAM is there for aesthetics, I'm not really trying to save money no this build.
I might change up my hdd doe and the fans are mainly for backups.
Also I was thinking of getting a Corsair Hydro Series H115i 280mm instead since it has more than enough space for it at the front.

Sorry if I sound ignorant or stupid in any of these, been a console pleb for a while so..

>>58374125
Ah I see, thank you.

MSI B250M PRO-VD, B250, DDR4, DVI-D, VGA, mATX
Intel Core i5-7400, 3GHz, 6MB, BOX
MSI Radeon RX 470 Gaming X 4GB GDDR5 (256 Bit)
Thermaltake Smart SE Modular 530W
SSD Crucial MX300 275GB SATA3
GoodRam DDR4 8GB 2133 CL15

Rate/advice etc.

This exceeds my budget a little bit, but I was advised to go for Kaby Lake instead of Skylake, hence the MSI B250M chipset. I could wait a little longer until new Kaby Lake compatible chipsets are introduced in my Eastern European shithole, but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to afford them.

I don't know shit about compability (or PCs in general), I'm not a very keen gamer, so take a look and let me know what you think.

>>58374788
>Why not the 7700k if I may ask?
Reviews show it runs on higher temps while achieving virtually the same performance when OC'd, Kaby Lake is just a rebranded Skylake.
>Also I'm set on the mobo because why not.
It's a good mobo, question is, will you use it? If not you can save a lot of money.
>Corsair Hydro Series H115i 280mm
Much better than any single radiator since they get shit on by too many aircoolers.

If you don't give a shit about money then suit yourself, but imho you're wasting a lot right now.

>but I was advised to go for Kaby Lake instead of Skylake
Don't. Kaby Lake is over priced and doesn't offer much. If budget matters then see if you can get a 6500 + H110 or B150 for cheaper.
Rest looks fine

>>58374910
See >>58375031
>but I was advised to go for Kaby Lake instead of Skylake
Don't. Kaby Lake is over priced and doesn't offer much. If budget matters then see if you can get a 6500 + H110 or B150 for cheaper.
Rest looks fine

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So, I just completed my rig, but it won't boot. What should I do?

inb4 cable management

>>58375031
I'll then probs make the switch to a 6700K instead, but would that affect me as much if I got the the H115i instead?

Still, thanks a lot for helping out anon.

>>58375078
managing ur cables

>>58375047
Thanks a lot.

>>58375091
Honestly? I don't know. Saw some OC benchmarks of the 7700K going up to 4.8-5.0GHz and up to 100°C whith a H110i GT.
Also saw some articles where the 7700K was delided (i think that's the right term in english) and it looks to be the same TIM issue that Intel had to deal awhile back on i believe Ivy bridge.

>>58375166
No problem, m8. I also wanted a Kaby Lake build but when i read some reviews and saw the prices here in EU... fuck it.
I can get a i7-6700K + good Z170 mobo for about 480€ while i7-7700K + Z270 would cost me about 550€, now i'm waiting for a good Skylake deal or Zen.

>>58375267
A quick google search leads me to believe you mean "delidding"
anyways gonna be going with the 6700K just to go with the safe route
Thank you so much! Hope karma rewards you plentiful :D

>>58369158
(You) sound like you're unemployed.

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This is my pc right now I had all the parts prior to yesterday when I got that board cpu and ram. My body is ready for the judgement.

>>58361615
I need help planing a new build that will last me at least 4 years with only gpu upgrade along the way.

>i5 6600k: because fuck kaby
>16gb ddr4: as fast as possible because why not
>motherboard: some z170, which one is gud?
>80+ gold modular psu, probably seasonic
>some gx 1070 mini
>1tb samsung evo, is it overkill? or should I get a pcie ssd?
>3tb toshiba p300 hdd, looks good and is the newest hdd model.
>cryorig h7 or bequiet dark pro?
>fractal design nano s
>asus 32 inches ips 1440p monitor

thoughts?

>>58375699
>*vomits internally*

>>58375719
Don't be a cock, tell him why you "vomited internally".

>>58375078
Did you cut your finger with the i/o shield? The most successful builds require a blood investment.

>>58375078
Is the power switch on the PSU in the on position?

>>58375078
remount cpu

>>58375701
>1tb samsung evo
"i hate my money", unless you hate loading screens more.
you could get a 250gb, use it for programs and spend that Extra hundred or so on an i7-6700k.

>motherboard: some z170, which one is gud?
look up power phases and overclocking reviews.

>cryorig h7 or bequiet dark pro?
im a noctua shill so i have to recommend the NH-D15 to validate my own purchase.

>>58375699
get the i7 6700k, also works better with z170 chipset, dual gpu on a mitx board is a no no - just get a 500 buck gpu (gtx 1070 or 1080), dual gpus aren't as good as they used to be, you can drop that 1k watt psu and get a 550 watt one - money saved can prob. get you the gtx 1080 or get you a 3 Tb hdd - a toshiba x300 one perhaps

>>58375699
Shit CPU, shit cooler, overpriced meme mobo, retarded SLI meme, overpriced case and overkill PSU.
0 / 10 it's dogshit and you are a good goy.

>>58375701
>16gb ddr4: as fast as possible because why not
Cheapest 3000/3200 kit is more than enoug.
>motherboard: some z170, which one is gud?
Asus Z170-A and Pro Gaming since they are similar or Gigabyte Z170X-UD3 which is a smaller UD5 with the same great VRM.
>some gx 1070 mini
Your case can fit full size cards, why bother with a mini version?
>1tb samsung evo, is it overkill? or should I get a pcie ssd?
Overkill but it's fine if you have the money, only other option is M.2 VNAND.
>cryorig h7 or bequiet dark pro?
Be Quiet Dark Rock 3 Pro will beat the H7 but is also more expensive, your call.

>>58376109
I don't know if that's the exact 1k psu that I have it's corsair it's left over from when I had sli gtx 480s(Thank god I'm still alive!) so when the rx480s were announced I kept the 480 train going. what's wrong with the dual gpus on mitx? I got the board for 98 which seemed like a pretty good deal to offset the cost of the cpu. and I upgraded from an i7- 920 so it was a pretty big upgrade.

My PC crashes when my room is >70 F with a shitty thermaltake cpu cooler, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G3435839 .
Should I get a Corsair H80i V2?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpTWKZ

>>58375919
>>58376225

r8

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RthMyf

I have a lot of trouble trying to find a case I like, the nzxt would be perfect if it weren't for the glass panel.

Ideally I would like to use the define nano s.

>>58376291
Your thermaltake cooler is for low power CPU. <65 TDP.


Your CPU is 125W.

Your Watercooler H80i is weaker than Air cooled Noctua D14 and more expensive. D15 is good too, whichever one you prefer.

>>58376429
I had a cooler master cooler before the thermaltake, but it snapped my ram from size.
D15 wont do this right?

>>58376338
Decent but this is what i'd do for a high quality/value build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkpgCy
No idea about the monitor and headphones, though, i'd ask /hpg/ for the later. Personally i like the Beyerdynamic DT770/990 250 Ohm for gaymen, movies and fun, they aren't the best for footsteps, though.

>>58376493
Look at reviews, its a big cooler.

>>58376338
>>58376516
Forgot the case fans, Noctuas are excellent but also very expensive. See if you like the Fractals, if so, buy two extra, if not, try this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4GsKHx/be-quiet-case-fan-bl047

>>58376291
>My PC crashes when my room is >70 F
>125W TDP CPU
>65W TDP cooler
GEE I WONDER WHY..

>>58376516
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkpgCy

im not him, but the UD3 and UD5 were both well reviewed for Overclocking. i recently got 1.