When will memetirial design die?

Nice opinions faggots.
Thanks so much for sharing.

>>58375156
>matErial
>memetirial
>>>/trash/

>clean simple interface is for kids
>interface with bloated effects is not

>>58375156
>not being childish and gay
it's 2017 anon

i like the style

not so much the burger menus and other stupid functionality, but the clean lines, colors and subtle effects

Minimalist designs are popular among those who like Authoritarianism/Socialism, which many graphics artists do. Flat design is/was also common in Propaganda posters.

So make your own conclusions.

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mid 2000's seems like the peak for design and functionality of user interfaces

>>58375269
No that's just when you started using them. That shit is fucking awful.

>>58375269
>being born this late
I'm sorry anon

>>58375297
Pretty much.

The pinnacle of functional GUI are those that utilize the keyboard (on pc). Something like i3wm.

The peak of design is subjective.

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>>58375269
Nah, Vista/7 was the peak. Pic related was me when I upgraded from XP.

>>58375269
>liking fischer price UI

>>58375336
>being an oldgoy

Windows 2000 had the best UI. But it simply won't work with non-gray palette. What we actually need is flat UI with shadows/volume on interactive elements.

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>>58375156
It's already dying, checkout Dribbble for instance, the material meme is already considered cheese. The next big thing is the NetArt / AESTHETICS revival, with tons of animation and flashy Jap shit.

I think the reason it is so popular is it is easier implement and easier to scale.
Smartphones have 0.5-4k screens, yet doesn't display more than 40 lines of text.
Increasing the resolution should not make the UI smaller.

And in 2 years from now when some new stupid design trend catches on everyone is going to be talking about how much better material design was.

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>>58375558
>not having hard to read xterms
>2017

>>58375737
>Using a book as a monitor stand
Nice.

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>>58375737

>>58375345
>Saving a thumbnail

>>58375156
When you come up with something better

>>58375737
wallpaper please anon-kun

>>58375156
>waaaahhhh stop liking things i dont like

>>58375491
>The next big thing is the NetArt / AESTHETICS revival, with tons of animation and flashy Jap shit.
>mfw it's true
>mfw the front end hype is on HTML polyfills and animooted shit
>mfw I'm okay with this

Flat UI is God awful shit that kills productivity.

>>58375269
XP was beautiful and amazing. I miss it.

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>>58375156

>rants about material design
>picture of flat design app

Are you even trying?
Material design relies on cards (with shadows), a single primary color and an optional accent color. See pic.
Your app looks like a miui/flat pastel color monstrosity.

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Material Design is great for mobiles. But it can't suit the needs of a desktop user, and still Google itself refuses to acknowledge that. Pic related is nothing but crap

>>58375156
when apple makes the next big change

>>58377461
Google is just bad at design.

Youtube
Google Groups
Google Fonts
Google Books

Are great examples

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>>58377461
>Maximizing your windows

>>58377461
That yellow bar is just hideous.

>>58377464
Apple stuck to gradients and shadows though

>>58375156
>gradients look good

LOL. You are literally a meme. End yourself.

>>58375269
>peak functionality of user interfaces

you should try being a stand up comedian sometime

>>58375156
It's really good for smartphones and tablets, much better than the shit that microsoft is forcing with Wangblows 10.

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>>58379454
gradients can look good sometimes.
r-right guys?

Why can't we just control everything with buckling spring keyboards and vi-like key commands?

>>58380050
There is no gradients

>>58380666
so what do you call that thing under the text?

>>58375156
Material design is pretty gay. I get pissed every time I have to make a call because the dialer is a homosexual eyesore.

>>58380706
are you talking about the transparency/opacity?

>>58380766
yes, which creates the gradient. it gradually changes from one color to another. if that's not a "gradient" then I don't know what is.

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>>58375269
much earlier than that

>>58375787
That's a ream of paper

>>58375376
Uh, no.

The UI had to work for everyone, /g/tards and normies alike. That's why XP was so successful. Everyone can appreciate it.

And if you can't, just fucking change the theme.

>>58377205
That looks much worse

>>58380825
well, it isn't, so i don't really know what to tell you other than to read up a bit on the difference.

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>>58380992
I'm talking about the text in the background window btw.

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Apple has the best design.

Tasteful colors, good use of space, intuitive, practical, consistent.

Google has no idea of how to build an ecosystem. Android apps are a mess.

Pic related, popular android app x popular ios app.

>>58380050
Oh, you're back with that trash UI.

>>58377461
https://dheera.net/projects/blur

>>58375459
I liked the Rainy Day color scheme actually, the one with the muted medium blue colors.

I personally think its the best design language we've made so far. But this is aesthetics and aesthetics are subject to opinion.

>>58384597
It's not just the best, its the ultimate perfection of mobile UI design. Material will probably be the last design guideline before we move onto the next big thing after smartphones.

white everything is destroying my vision

so tired of google

>>58375156
It looks nice, it's simple, it's almost impossible to actually complain about.
I'm impressed that you have an issue with it.

>>58375156
>When will memetirial design die?
When people stop using it, duh

>>58375269
the fisher-price user interface of windows xp was and still is awful. windows 2000 had the best-looking and most functional UI so far

>>58375218
Oh stfu

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>>58386595

>>58381177
Both look horrible.

>>58375156
>gradients look good
Kys

>>58375343
>The pinnacle of functional GUI are those that utilize the keyboard (on pc).
that's input, has nothing to do with design.

>The peak of design is subjective.
no, it's just the common idiot doesn't understand what good design is. same as people here have a much better understanding of technology than most. design has objective rules, like perspective, visual weight and complimentary colours.

>>58376757
I just went to dribbble and it's nothing but minimalist shit

>>58385076
>implying people have any power

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What's the problem with Win95-like design?

>>58377461
It's not a fault of the design language itself, rather than just the layout.
Make it more separated and condensed and you have a great UI for desktop use.

>>58389246
>1995
>no tiling window manager

>>58389246
Nothing. It's perfect.

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It seems only Microsoft is getting the idea that only flat is bad, that you need some flair to it, something to differentiate.

Windows Aero is the most beautiful gui ever made

You cannot prove me wrong

>>58389526
dunno I live flat design, it's just that MS flat design is done well and google's sucks balls with those awful colors and stuff

>>58375156
>It looks childish
So does web 2.0 shit and gloss. Material/flat design is better looking than any other previous standard design.

What's wrong with Material? It looks fucking brilliant.

And do you even have an alternative or are you just a crying Israeli cunt?

>>58389526
this, win 10 looks very good

>>58389346
But why no one uses it then?

>>58389246
It's cold, grey, and lifeless. For the utilitarian its probably a godsend but for those of us who want a little beauty in our lives, it's a disaster.

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>>58392336
What do you think about IRIX' 4DWM?

>>58380836
I like the icons.

>>58390975
what is OSX 10.3 ?

>>58381453
Looks like he used gaussian blur or something, wouldn't that technique be way more difficult to execute on something else than that 'artistic' pixelated blur?

Aero was objectively the best design style. It's a shame it was never fully developed as a design language.

>ITT: people who don't understand design philosophies at all and think every single implementation of the design should be taken as a shining example

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>>58392496
Edited it to try out how it would look with tile backgrounds.

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Comfy Trio coming through!

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>>58386981
Really makes you think, doesn't it?

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>>58375156

>all those pastel colors looking like an 80's tv show
>flat and boring as shit to look at
>even a beveled edge would make this shit look better

I've been doing UI/UX testing a lot lately and I've been lighting into these designers over these bullshit faggoty ass pastel colors and flat looking UI's. I lived through the 80's, I'm glad we came to our senses and dumped pastels.

>>58375156
Women
>/thread

It's got to die sooner or later. All the flat meme designs are getting stale and boring quicker and quicker. The big question is what will come next.
I personally would be into something like the iOS designe where they have gradients, depth and blurred things.

>>58392855
>socialism
>hitlerism

pick 1

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>>58375156

>>58392496
I like some of the design elements like th tabs at the bottom and the buttons, but the colors are too depressing.

>>58392840
It looks a bit better with the patterned background, I don't hate it. I'd use this over the standard win95 design scheme.

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>>58390975
>>58392793
>Aero
yes, love me some Aero.

>>58392930
>what is national-socialism

>>58392871
>I lived through the 80's
then it's time to stop posting your autistic opinions
thanx

>>58393068
>what I don't like is autism

>>58393031
Hitlers socialism is very different from marxist socialism.

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>>58393068


>au·tism
> /ˈôˌtizəm/
>noun

>noun: autism

> a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by a strong belief that flat UI's utilizing pastel colors is good, difficulty in communicating an idea without said UI and colors, forming relationships with other preferring to carry out relationships with inanimate Anime-style objects, and in using language and abstract concepts that no one of sound mind (like speaking in Klingon and the aforementioned pastel colors and flat UI) would use themselves

get out of the basement autie.

>>58389246
Win 95 is the best designed Windows going
Then XP
Then 7

>>58375269
>xp
>any good
It's literally a horrible lookalike of Aqua. At least Vista's Aero is an alright lookalike of Aqua.

>>58380992
Are you a mong? It's a gradient. If it gradually changes opacity thus gradually changing colors, or rather it gradually changes properties, it's a gradient.
>gradient
>an increase or decrease in the magnitude of a property observed in passing from one point to another
Fucking kill yourself

Material and flat are the ultimate stlye for IT

>>58393098
>>58393185
>he's still autism posting

>>58389261
>make it more separated and condensed
That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

>>58381177
The app on the left is awful. The font is harder to read than the one on the right, even though it's larger. It also combines four different sizes, compared to two on the right.

Orange on grey is tasteless, makes the header text even harder to read, and is distracting when used for so many elements next to each other.

It also crams too much info into one screen, doesn't allow you to tell items in the list apart at a glance, and doesn't distinguish visually between toolbars and main content.

Jonathan Ive would be spinning in his bed of iDildos at the sight of that monstrosity.

>>58375269

I was young and had just gotten into computers when XP came out. Even then I thought it was rubbish

It's a good thing WindowsBlinds and that DLL patch exist

>>58389526
This would look so much better without the tacky radiance and stripes in the left panel, the distracting background logo in the middle, and with bigger icons in the tray. The top and bottom padding is also inconsistent with that on the right and left. And why are the toolbar buttons smaller than the window buttons?

The orange-on-purple scheme is a pretty obvious ripoff from Ubuntu.

>>58393116
Socialism isn't inherently marxist

>>58389526
Why is there no visual indication that Mail and Calendar are tabs? Why are the toolbars left aligned in the first two panels, but right aligned in the third?

The longer I look at this shit, the more triggered I get. Fucking amateurs.

>>58375156
I love it. I wish everything was Material Design.

>>58391012
>Microsoft flat design
>Blue everywhere
>Ads everywhere
>More padding than content
>The stuff you want is hidden three or four menus deep

>>58375156
Material is a waste of space
Also the color palette is gay as all fucks

OP is right
Google shills OUT

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>>58375491
>>58376757
I liked net.art back then and I enjoy A E S T H E T I C stuff today, but how would you apply them to the design of practical GUIs? Pic related isn't going to cut it.

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>>58394337
Material is designed for touch interfaces.
The color palette in OP's pic is not part of material design guidelines. Even then, it's hardly worse than "Playskool" Windows 10 or "90s up the wazoo" Facebook and Amazon.

>>58375176
>tfw >>>/trash/ is the true >>>/b/

>>58380836

Any idea of where i can find the icons?

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>>58375269

>implying

Skewmorphism was the best design. You actually had to try to make things look good.

>>58395180
I like Plan9 as a concept and from an engineering standpoint, but god damn everything about it is ugly as sin.

>>58395239

I like how simple it is, doesnt get any more perflat than that.
Just change the font to good ol 6x13 fixed and its gr8, too bad I lost all my drawterm screencaps.

>>58395180
It looks pretty utilitarian.
Which is nice.

>>58375218
I'm a libertarian, and a pretty strongly anti-state libertarian at that, yet I love material design and my apartment is decorated based on minimalist principles.

>>58375156
flat minimalist UI is the best
undeniable ease of access and use

>>58395290

The base concept is nice since you can execute text by middle clicking on it, so the top menu isnt actually a menu but a text field.
If it were up to me I would have used a single unifying scripting language like a light lisp or something like that.

>>58395273
This kiind of flat I find pretty acceptable, dunno why.
Maybe because there's not much empty space.

It's to appeal to women.

>>58395336
Are there non-Plan 9 programs which share the same concept?
What left and right button do?

>>58392336
WRONG

>>58395354

Not that I know of, left is for cursor placing and right takes you to the next matching word in the document or to a file if its a path.

>>58375156
>Who began this minimalist bullshit

Fucking Microsoft with the fucking zune. As if failing as a portable mp3 player wasn't enough, it moved us to this bullshit.

I don't mind it much, but I like the look of something like aero more.

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>>58395290
>It looks pretty utilitarian.
>Which is nice.

>>58395390
>Who began this minimalist bullshit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braun_(company)

>>58375156
I use windows 7 on my gayman box in high contrast mode.

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>>58395409
>implying implications with no text given par vai pret

>>58392646
>>58394794
look for either BeOS or Haiku icons - there are many available.

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>>58395182
I often didn't like the aesthetics, but one thing I did always like was that it was very easy to see what everything did.
It's no longer the case with todays oversimplified monochrome low contrast icons and interfaces with no visual cues

>>58375156
I feel like it comes from making products thinner. They cant stop making things thinner, so much so that they're taking out ports used since the 50's.

That has seeped into software design and now even GUI's are "paper thin"

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>>58395659
>dog
>not cat

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>>58396042
>they're taking out ports used since the 50's.

They don't sleep anymore on the beach ;_;

>>58392930
Poster included authoritarianism here >>58375218
so unless you're going go argue that the Nazi regime was not authoritarian then you can fuck yourself.

>>58396210
what is libertarian socialism

>>58396343

>a culture based on freedom, but your money is the state's goy
lel

>>58396668
>libertarian socialism
>state
kek

>>58396792
>tax collection
>without state to enforce it
You already broke the NAP

>>58381177
Both aren't pleasant but your claims are outright wrong.

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>>58389246
Win95 is okay. Windows 98 improves on 95 and is still king

>>58375269
Aero is the best windows theme desu. xp is still better than 10s interface.

>>58389246
In a word? Ugly.

In a paragraph?

Windows 95 fails at having a sense of charm and while, technologically speaking, it was a leap forward it was not aesthetically a leap forward. Aesthetics are important as they define the character of the environment. Windows 95, while it maintains a workflow that was considered revolutionary for Windows Users, was cold and ugly. It might have been, at the time, considered more vibrant than that of MSDOS but it still gave off the impression of computers being entirely utilitarian and unartistic. However, I might suggest, the introduction of aesthetic design was never (and I mean never) the end of functionality. However, people like OP despise new things and want to justify their usage of widely perceived ugly things.

I can't believe I let Nas down.

>>58375345
>Vista was peak
Nice meme
I think when CLIs started getting autocomplete-like functionality was the peak of the desktop computer's interface.

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>>58375218
>Minimalist designs are popular among those who like Authoritarianism/Socialism
>Flat design is/was also common in Propaganda posters
Are you trying to suggest that Soviet Realism had no depth? If so, you are pretty wrong.

Further: I do not see any reason why "minimalist design" would be authoritarian or socialist. If anything, minimalism is related to abstraction and abstract art, not Soviet realism. If anything, authoritarian regimes prefered verbosity, not the antithesis thereof.

I can't believe I let Nas down.

>>58394235
Socialism is a vast umbrella term that is nearly two hundred years old. NEXT

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>>58396866
>NAP
>serious politics

>>58375156
>tfw material design is so good that everything else looks like an abomination now

>>58375297
still better than what we have today

>>58396866
>>58397128
Take away the NAP and libertarianism/ancap is suddenly awesome.

>>58396915
>improves on 95
In every way except for the folder icons. The acne-covered folder icons were a regression.

>>58397360
I sincerely wish google took material design more seriously though. There is ZERO reason a sidebar should exist in desktop applications/websites. It's bad design. Floating action button, same principle.

But, they never will. Because like all things google, employees just sort of forget about it unless it's making billions of dollars in ad revenue.

>>58396982
>cold and ugly
What was warmer? Mac OS was only marginally better at the time because by the late '90s it had lost the consistency System 6 had.

Every time I see a picture of material design, it makes me consider how depressing it is to look at a historical UI covering your screen in the dark even though we were all looking at it AND using it 5-15 years ago

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>>58380836
Earlier.

>>58398106
>>58380836
Are you suggesting that Irix's GUI looked and functioned better than that of BeOS?

>>58398137
Yes.

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>>58392701
A clusterfuck?

>>58398060
What? Material design gets a lot of internal attention and even gets periodic updates.

>>58398148
But why? What does it do better? To me the application windows on Irix look crowded with lots of unnecessary bevels. Gimmicky widgets like the wheel are a sign of an era before GUI designers really knew what they were doing. BeOS is simply more mature.

>>58398244
Explain play music being fucking hideous on desktops?
Explain Inbox having a floating action button on desktops?
They're fucking up their own products because they have no idea how material design should operate outside of mobile devices.

It's sad, because it could be the dominant design across the board if they actually cared.

>>58398208
How so, aside from the brushed metal/pinstripes divide? Either way, it's still miles better than Aero (Windows Vista/7) when it comes to consistency.

>>58398284
The wheel is mostly to show off its lovely vector icons, something which basically no OS since has taken advantage of. If you don't like the wheel it's easy to ignore it. IRIX also has a bunch of neat GUI settings which allows for a lot more of a personalized experience.

All of this said, I'm a touch angry the MAXXDesktop/5dwm project got abandoned a while ago, I'd love to have something like 4dwm running on top of Debian.

>>58398372
Was MAXXDesktop meant to become open? I thought the contract with SGI didn't allow it.

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People need to realize Project Looking Glass was the pinnacle of UI design and all of you have wrong opinions if it's not this one

>>58375156
>kys
You mean kiss?

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>>58375269
Luna was a mistake. They should have kept Watercolor.

Even Royale was better.

>>58375156
material design + unique design = incredible product
material design is good but just on it's own it's not enough for a usable product, material design has been deployed very well and very bad, there are good and bad ways to use it, youtube's beta is a bad example as it wastes too much space and is inneficient. Desktop material design is niceandobile material design has proven to be a good design and is superior to ANY meme flat design like MS shit tier standards

>>58375156
What good alternatives are there to material design for websites?

>>58375491
eye cancer

this is why i will never be a good UI designer. I don't get it.
I just need a windows 3.1/class mac interface to write my brick shithouse enterprise software in. I really do not give a fuck about colors and shit. hell, if IDEs weren't so useful in some instances, i would go full text.

What's my mecca OS/environment /g/?
when windows 7+ classic mode goes away i think i'm going to kill myself.

>>58398661
>i will never be a good UI designer
>I just need a windows 3.1/class mac interface
UI designers, save some contrarians, love the classic Mac, though.

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I like its minimalism
still better than the skeumorph and metro fisher price bullshit

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>>58398744
because it was comfy as fuck

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>>58398986

>>58393185
youhaveautism.com

>>58389185
>implying people don't
Nobody is forcing you to use Windows. Grow up

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>>58398473
Sadly the best Windows design never made it to RTM.

>>58398448
>kiss

keeping things too simple is how memeterial and flat design were born, and they both suck ass.

>>58375156
nice blog

>>58395961
are you implying that the interface in your picture is somehow more intuitive or more easier to use?

>glossy orbz instead of actual usable controls
>let's put buttons all around the view window

>>58396915
>icons literally covered in useless visual noise as a result of dithering and poor design choices
>surely it'll look better than a single color fill!

>bin is isometric, folder is front facing

these icons just suck, anon.


>a third of folder contents view is occupied by BIG TEXT, sky background and other useless shit

>vertical space is used inefficiently
Windows 95 actually did it better.

>internet links in file explorer window
>it's going to open a new window anyway if you click it
>or it'll change everything about the current one and break UI flow, I don't remember.
Why.

Material design was used so that designers could include their design samples in powerpoint presentations easily.

>>58375192
This desu

Having teen sex with your slender bf is best feel ever

>>58375156
This thread again?

>>58395239

The colors are meant to be as comfortable as possible to look at for extended periods of time.

>>58375156
I can't articulate my viewpoint, since I don't know a thing about UI design.
But I always hated Material Design. I don't know why, I just always did. Or maybe it's the majority of apps that are shit at using it, but the point is, there was never both a recognition "oh, it's Material design" and "it looks good" at the same time for me. They were at best tolerable, but still no joy to look at.

>>58381177
The iOS one has shit contrast.

>>58404222
>Why.
ACTIVE DESKTOP
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>>58392755
No. Gaussian blur has the same problems.

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>>58404445
>yfw this is the only experience most people had with AD

>>58375156
Looking back, mid 00s was ugly as fuck.
This design is much cleaner.

When Google dies

>>58375269
>functionality
no. Search bar in Vista start menu was a godsend. If you use classic windows style or anything similar on linux and you're happy with it you need to visit mental health clinic.

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>/g/ routinely calls modern designers "hipsters" for liking modern material design
>claims the best UI paradigms are from 20 or more years ago
>this somehow does not make them the actual hipster shits

doubleyou ee doubleyou el ay dee

>>58376739
>thinking random anon owns a T221
topkek

>>58389526
>microsoft is so original it's copying macOS Sierra

>>58381177
left:
>beautiful font, easily readable
>easy access to menu options at the bottom, where your thumb will most likely be anyways

right:
>great use of color, proper contrast
>doesn't look cluttered

ok now combine both of them to create something actually worthwhile

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>>58375156
Paint it black and gray color
Rainbow is for faggot

>>58375176
>trash
www.4chan.org/dev/null

>>58404452
>>58392755
Gaussian blur is worse.

http://www.instantfundas.com/2012/10/how-to-unblur-out-of-focus-and-blurred.html

No, material design is the future.
I hope Wayland extincts all the old ugly retro WMs

>>58398473
That's really quite nice. I wish they'd have kept it.

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>>58407452

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Compare Google Fit to Apple Health and you'll get an understanding of both philosophies.

>>58407675
Extremely hideous. Both of them have no idea how the fuck to display relevant information.

The only plus to iOS device is the menu bar at the bottom (where it should be for all devices across the board, google fucked up dramatically with the hamburger menu).

>>58395302
thats because psychopaths also like minimalism, and libertarians are mostly psychopaths.

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>>58375218
>Authoritarianism/Socialism
>implying they are the same thing

You will LIKE it and that's that!

>>58395180
i like plan 9 from an aesthetic and engineering standpoint, but goddamn, for 1991 some of the UI conventions were retarded enough to make it unusable

>click undo to undo
>no spaces in filenames (engineering shortcut to keep the code simple)

It was a concept OS, not a production OS.

>>58389526
they didn't fix the space at the top yet?

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>>58409728
>he uses spaces in his filenames

>>58375558

>0,5K
>adding K at the end signifies a resolution now

Wow, first they took away the real meaning of the "p" suffix and now it's the K buzzword, pardon me, buzzletter.

>When /gd/ met /g/ while the angry /pol/ whined about being alone.

you all can fuck off and suck my anus.

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>>58375218
>>58408995
>Authoritarianism/Socialism
>still using a political compass with false axes
>2017

>>58381177
That looks like shit

>>58375156
Hopefully soon. No-talent "designers" love it though, just like modern """art""".

>>58380050
This is so fucking ugly