/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Not ergonomic enough

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>>58358072
Here anon.

Are otemu switches okay?

>>58358114
I've not tried them personally, but I'm sure they are. Even cheap mech boards will last for a while, it just might not be the most comfortable and the qc will probably be nonexistant, so you could have a real difference in switch feeling throughout the board.

Just get Gaterons

Cherry MX a shit. Gaterons/zealios, alps and topre are way better.

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>>58358736
>zealios
nice try, but I ain't buying your shit switch

>>58358818
They're no longer wobbly like that m8.

>>58358894
even if that's true it doesn't excuse previously sold products

go back to redd!t, don't bring your hugbox culture here

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>>58358968
I'm telling you because I have them in my hands right now. They're not any more wobbly than cherry MX switches. I don't care to keep up with internet drama about keyboard shit of all things.

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>>58358107
not quite dactyl level, but yeah, this is pretty nice.

Is doubleshot ABS not as bad as other ABS? All those redditfags keep buying those overpriced doubleshot ABS keycap drops

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>>58358468
>chinkswitch instead of reichswitch
Holy shit, this guy!

>>58359581
gateron switches are superior to cherry, the only cherry switches worth paying premium for are clears, because there is no gateron equivalent.

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Hi, everyone. I just bought the MasterKeys Lite Keyboard and it's a 'Mem-Chanical' (lol I know) keyboard, says it's cherry keycap compatible. Does that mean I can buy cherry mx keycaps to replace the current ones and it will make it a 'true' mechanical keyboard? Here is what is says on the website but I don't really know much about keyboards. Thanks.

http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-lite-l-combo-rgb/

>>58359779
No, that's just a rubber dome. Changing the keycaps isn't going to change the switch itself.

>>58359864
Damn. Thanks.

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>>58359897
If you want a rubber dome board get one of these.

>>58359648
>because there is no gateron equivalent.

There are the zeals.

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>>58359953
>zeals
>>>/reddit/

>>58359125
Why would you use QWERTY? You need to re-learn how to type on a 3D keyboard, so you might as well use an optimal layout. If I had one, I'd learn the maltron layout. I had a kinesis advantage once and I regret using QWERTY. Took me months to be up to speed. Because the keyboards are so different than a conventional flat QWERTY, you don't get confused when you transition from curved alternate layout keyboard to a flat qwerty.

>>58359979
It's literally a gateron equivalent to mx clears. Not sure where this hot new meme of saying >reddit every time they get brought up comes from.

>>58359997
>You need to re-learn how to type on a 3D keyboard

I can't speak to the dactyl, but it only took me about a week to get used to typing on an ergodox. Meanwhile I read people saying it takes them months or years to fully get used to another key layout.

>>58359925
This

I just got a real-force today with topre and I am so fucking disappointed. They cost 10x as much as a BTC board and only feel slightly smoother.

>$60-$90
>USA
>cherry mx red
>ANSI
>60%
>dont give a shit about lighting
>last keyboard: Ganss G.S 87
help pls

>>58360057
RK61

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>>58360037
I would go for another layout if it weren't for gayming.
Learning to type on a steno one would be pretty great for taking notes.
>feel slightly smoother
That's why everyone like Topre.
You could try lubing the BTC board.
I heard bad things about pic related drying out but I think it's supposed to do that to prevent dirt and grime, as it's for stuff like bicycle chains.
I'm going to buy some to lube an old HHKB with.

I've been using a CST l-track trackball for the past year and I need to say, I prefer it for general computer use vs a mouse.

I realize this is a keyboard thread but most keyboard junkies have a softspot for other peripherals too.

>>58359997
i actually made malt firmware for my ergodox. i very much agree with you.

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>>58360116
i would love a CST trackball if they weren't an ergonomic catastrophe.

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Just got a full blank set for my Model F I had to keep some of the original keys because unicomp caps dont use wire stabilisers.

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so I'm looking for a nice TKL board in europe for around 120€. suggestions?
gave my old keyboard (pic related) to my brother when I moved out, unfortunately I can't find the same one any more

>>58360010
You do realize there was a gateron equivalent to clears, but thanks to reddit they dont exist anymore

>>58360265
Ducky one TKL is around 80€

>>58360223
Stabilizer inserts are compatible with model f's. Buy some from unicomp or steal them from a model m.

Does anyone own this NPKC keycap set? I was thinking of going with the 61 key set with the extra eight keys, including the red Esc key. Blanks of course. They look pretty nice, judging the the photos in the reviews.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Black-Grey-mixed-Thick-PBT-104-87-61-Keycaps-OEM-Profile-Key-caps-For-MX/32741729615.html

>>58360304
from where? I can only find the RGB version for around 150€

>>58360416
belgium. Its the non rgb version

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>>58360162
The ergonomics on them are terrible. I built a foam rest above where it slant's downward and that makes it much more bearable.

I wish the mouse buttons were placed higher too so I could rest the full weight of my hand on the ball and sides without having to worry about triggering it. The sides should be contoured too and have a thumb or pinky spot.

This being said, for all it's faults, it blows all kingston trackballs out of the water. I still have yet to try the nice Japanese ones they sell on Ebay now.

>>58360409
What do you mean? the unicomp caps dont even have a slot for the wire stabilizers to go in.

what is the cheapest 60% keyboard with mx blacks?

>>58360506
ajazz ak33

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>>58360474
You put the stabilizer inserts in to the barrel that corresponds with the stabilizer bar on the keycap.
Here's a pic of my Model F 107 with Model M stabilizer.

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>>58360135
I'm surprised it's not more popular now that ergodox-style keyboards are becoming popularized. It's the most rational layout IMO. The only thing I don't like about it is the placement of the L-key.

How fast can you type on the malt layout so far? I'd imagine if you became very proficient you'd type significantly faster than someone of equal skill on either a QWERTY or DVORAK.

>>58360506
Rk61

>>58360506
Do they have to be MX? Gaterons are pretty nice too and some would argue they're more refined than Cherry switches.

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>>58360538
muh collection

>>58360538
Aah now i understand hows the feel compared to wire?

>>58360593
Pretty much identical

>>58360603
Alright thanks now i have to figure out a cheap way to get em no way im paying 20$ for shipping +tax to get that.

>>58360626
Look for a broken Model M or M-122 on ebay and steal the springs and stabilizers. Very useful for spare parts. I have a bin bag size full of spare shit for M's and F's.

>>58360457
the sanwa and elecom ones seem to be nice enough. too bad trackballs are niche. i was actually thinking about building one myself but then i realized how bad at programming and soldering i am.

>>58360590
9/10

Missing the IBM/Lexmark M15. That aside, nice collection.

>>58360050
>>58360086
I seriously don't understand. Why would you pay so much for Topre when you could get a Dell Quietkey RT7D5JTW that feels almost exactly the same for $5-$20 used.

This was my very first keyboard and only a year ago I found it in my parents garage collecting dust. Restored it and it still feels crisp as fuck.

Got a Novatouch and the feel is negligible. Only benefit is being able to swap keycap sets.

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>>58360563
i didn't really have time to make a full switch yet unfortunately, there were some exercises on maltrons site that i started, but i am not even through them yet.

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What does /g/ think of the Leopold FC750R?

I'll be shelling out for my first mk, I've decided on MX Reds and TKL.

I really like the aesthetics it has going for it.

>>58360716
keep at it anon. It seems well worth learning. Like learning a language, even five minutes a day can make a difference.

>>58360681
I owned one in the past, they're near impossible to type on. I'll try pick one up again since they are becoming increasingly rare.

>>58360765
Decent board, can't go wrong. Get some nice keycaps though.

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Picked up this NPKD set off Aliexpress to replace the keycaps on my Quickfire XT:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-White-Grey-mixed-Thick-PBT-104-Keycaps-OEM-Profile-Key-caps-For-MX-Mechanical-Keyboard/32719097438.html?spm=2114.13010208.99999999.264.mP5iou

Are they any good for the price?

>>58360770
Not as rare as the Kinesis Evolution. Those things are impossible to find despite worth much less than a M15.

>>58360813
I'm planning on buying some completely blank PBT keycaps. They can't be too hard to find, right?

>>58360902
>They can't be too hard to find, right?

Right.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1659

Did anyone here use a Leopold FC980C? What are your thoughts on the layout and build quality?

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>>58360852
I was thinking of going with the darker version of these NPKC keycaps myself. If anyone could advise or post pics, it would be great.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Black-Grey-mixed-Thick-PBT-104-87-61-Keycaps-OEM-Profile-Key-caps-For-MX/32741729615.html

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>>58360856
>>58360770
>>58360681

speaking of split keyboards, there is a utron on ebay.

$635 though... Why is he trying to jew us?

http://www.personal-media.co.jp/retail/utronkb/info.html

You can buy them direct from japan for less.

>>58361045
Soon you won't have to pay 50k yen for a split topre:

https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html

>>58361172
>not the ergodox option
plebs

>>58361231
Eventually anon. After he finishes with that the plan is to continue working on this >>58358107

Still cant decide between the ducky one tkl rgb and pok3r rgb

>>58361381
None of the above. Get a Matias board with their Clicky Switch.

>>58361381
Get an alps HHKB and mod it with rgb LEDs

>>58361452
this.

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>>58360852
>>58361042
we memeforce now?

>>58361452
Holy shit kill yourself

>>58361693
faggot detected.

>>58359648
Also no equivalent to gateron clears. +1 to gateron

>Budget
Preferably under $85
>Location
United States
>Switch
Red
>Layout
ANSI
>Form Factor
80%
>Backlight
Doesn't matter

Any ideas? It's my first time looking into buying a mechanical keyboard.

>>58361859
cm quickfire.

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>>58357999

What is this little connector on the left called? I accidentally my keyboard and fucked up the micro-usb connector. Need to replace this shit so I can keep using it.

>>58361884
Looks like a type of molex connector.

>>58361903
A guy here told me once but I forgot to write it down. I THINK it started with W but I can't remember the rest.

>>58360050
>>58360698
>Topre a shit
>Topre just expensive rubber domes
I thought you guys left?

I wish i could die

>>58361949
Lol sorry but topre sucks.

>>58361950
same

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This any good? First mechanical, £109

>>Budget
>Under 100 EUR
>>Location
>Eastern Europe
>>Switch
>Black, but any linear switch is okay.
>>Form Factor
>60%

>>58361949
Dell Quietkey guy here, I normally wouldn't nitpick, and I'm not shitting on Topre-lovers but I am struggling to find the difference in feel from my Quietkey and Novatouch.

Is the Novatouch really not comparable to actual Topres? Maybe I just haven't typed on it long enough, got it as a Christmas present from the wife so I'll fuck off for now and come back next week when I've had more time with it but at this point I doubt I'll be convinced enough to invest in a Topre or HHKB.

>>58360902
Nope

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/White-Black-Gray-Orange-Green-Yellow-Blank-Thick-PBT-OEM-Profile-62-Key-ISO-61-ANSI/32727885210.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/104-108-Blank-PBT-Keycap-White-Black-Pink-Blue-ect-Color-For-OEM-Cherry-MX-Switches/32738349818.html

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>>58360852
Found one with darker modifier keycaps.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PBT-108-key-Blank-Retro-white-grey-OEM-hight-MX-switches-Keycaps-for-wired-USB-Mechanical/32754080911.html

>>58362178
Anne Pro

http://www.banggood.com/APP-Control-Anne-PRO-Blue-Red-Switch-RGB-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1064055.html

>>58358736
>>58358894
>>58359002
>>58359953
>>58360010
The Zeal guy did not invent anything. He just uses his financial advantages to reserve products for himself so he can put his name on them and jack up the price a bunch. He already screwed over the Winkeyless people this way (cutting off their access to gat tactile clears) and he's trying to do the same to other brands. NEVER acknowledge this guy except to point out what a dick he is.

>>58362398
Can't Cherry sue Gateron, Zeal, and all the other clones?

>>58362420
They will if anyone makes silent switches. Their patents on everything else have expired though.

>>58362433
is it not possible to renew expired patents? what happens if clones start patenting Cherry stuff?

>>58362420
Gateron are Chinese. Good luck with that.

Can anyone recommend a wrist rest? Was thinking of getting those wooden ones on massdrop but I don't know how comfortable they would be.

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>tfw wasnt expecting this to get out of chink land so fast

should i get my hopes up guys? or will it sit in usps stock room for 20 days

>>58362420
>tfw the knock-chinese brands make better switches than you

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>>58363060
forgot the face
also
>knock-off

>>58363060
Open markets are amazing amirite?

>>58361045
it gets more expensive with import tax, but it depends on which country you live in. If it's china you'll get close to a 100% penalty.
worth it though

>>58363030
What did you order anon?

Hey friends, sorry for the annoying question but should I get a KUL or a Filco for my next keyboard or something else like Leo/Das/Ducky? I'm leaning towards a Majestouch 2 just because they offer a nice looking white one. Budget is about 140 USD.

>>58363104
like this is the same problem with intel. no competition so you become complacent as fuck and dont care anymore cause you know people will still buy your product.

like now that it hink about it can x company even advertise that they are using "gateron switches!" like kingston for example just released a new Mech KB and it's still cherry!

wen u tryina be minimalist, and it turns into hipster shit

>>58363180
chink-caps,

i was also thinking of getting a wrist rest but we're doing renovation in our house rn and i just think i could just salvage some wood and use those to make my own.

only thing stopping me is how do i get that smooth curve profile i want

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who else /staying awake to catch the RAMA drop/ here

>tfw I'm making more mistakes on my cherry mx blues than a chiclet or rubberdome keyboard

It just takes time right guys?

>>58364071
Most likely yes.

Is the Razer Ornata good? How about the Tournament Ed. Blackwidow?

Is their chinkswitch good?

>>58364162
nope, nope, and nope
If you want a cheap gaming keyboard then get a tomoko for 30 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Water-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2

>>58363491
RAMA and
>Terminal_
Drop on same day

Can't afford both

I cry

>>58364186
tfw they dont ship to you. are these on aliexpress or ebay?

>>58358818
I will forever hope for that 1976 Atreus

>Tfw all I want is Atreus and SA caps
>Tfw idk what switch I want so I was gonna go Matias
>Keycaps
>Matias

>>58364249
where are you at?
There are other chink boards that are equally as good as razer

>>58364473
im not the guy you linked the keyboard to desu. im from macedonia

>>58364500
can you buy from china? or does it have to be from near you?

>>58364555
>>>58364500
>can you buy from china?

sure why not

>>58364186
>nope, nope, and nope

Explicar, por favor.

>>58364500
Macedonia is next to Greece. Why not buy from there?
http://www.cosmodata.gr/search?q=cooler%20master&c=660&q2=

http://www.e-shop.gr/coolermaster-sgk-4040-gkcm1-us-quickfire-tk-rapid-i-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-brown-switch-p-PER.814882

>>58364638
1) over priced membrane
2) Chink switches and overpriced (for that budget you can get CM or Rosewill keyboards that have genuine cherry and similar build quality)
3) Inconsistent feeling between switches.

If you can find an old razer keyboard with cherry switches then do go for it. Just stay away from their new shitty keyboards

>>58364675
i was looking for the tomoko keyboard desu, theres quickfire rapids being sold in macedonia too but i dont want to spend that much

>>58364739

the new manufacture Razer keyboards use a Greetech switch that is like a cherry blue, with a shorter activation and reset (for muh gamin). older ones had kailh's that were pretty bad.

If you can live with the software, Razer probably has the best/most customizeable RGB around.

Still overpriced, but if it's all you can get, and price isn't a big issue, and you can live with the aesthetics, it is a good keyboard.

>>58364755
There are a couple anons who do have this keyboard so you could ask them for a more in depth review.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ajazz-Geek-AK33-Backlignt-Edition-Mechanical-Keyboard-Blue-Switch-White-Color-Gaming-Keyboards-for-Tablet-Desktop/32620275963.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.12.bUUVKQ&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10000009_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10062_10056_10055_503_10054_10059_10099_10078_501_10079_426_10103_10073_10102_10096_10052_10053_10050_10107_10051_10106,searchweb201603_2,afswitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=bfe9ae0a-16f6-4b2d-9a1b-5b24738ec842

>>58364799
If you want RGB then pretty much every chink brand has customizable LEDs. Ducky, Max and Cooler Master have fully programmable LEDs and much better build quality.

If you want a shorter actuation then get silver cherries on a Ducky which will blow razer out of the water in terms build quality
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=155&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>58364855
Not arguing with you, but that Ducky Shine 6 is actually uglier than the razer though, lol.

>>58364806
thanks m8 ill ask around tomorrow

>>58364886
then get the shine 5

>>58364799
>Still overpriced, but if it's all you can get, and price isn't a big issue, and you can live with the aesthetics, it is a good keyboard.
If you have that kind of money, you could probably get yourself an even better board with programmable abilities far better than any Razer gaymershit

>>58364739
>>58364799
Got it familys.

Was tempted to buy either Ornata or the Tourney Blackwidow since they're close in price (approx. $80). The Blackwidow sold is the Khalil one apparently.

How about Rapoo? Aula? Tomoko doesn't sell here.

>>58364976
surely there is some Ducky keyboards there. They usually sell in the 80-90 price range

>>58364886
>Ducky Shine 6 is actually uglier than the razer
False, the reflective black plastic of the Razer makes it worse.
imo

>>58365006
Didn't look at the Razer, but the blackwidows I have seen are all matte.

>>58365002
Duckys go for 100-130 burgerbux here, VAT included. They're way over my budget.

If I can get a cheaper mech keyboard, that would be better. I want to try one out before deciding to commit and pull my trigger for a good mech.

>>58358107
why haven't we made a keyboard where the keys raise up to your fingers so you don't even have to move your hands to type?

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>>58365397
you mean like this

>>58365412
no, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ7AJnVKc_g

but instead of just typing, solenoids push mechanical keys up to your fingertips, so you still get that nostaligic clicking

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>>58363030
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU ANON
>ordered my chink shit on the 3rd

>>58362136
This is what I have right now. I like it a lot but I'm desperately in need of new caps.

The cooler master logo looks like fucking shit.

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good night /mkg/

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>>58364272
why don't you build one?

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>>58366011
do you really go to sleep at this time annon or r u just pullin my leg

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Thickness of the mc rebirth keycaps. Seems pretty close to as thick as GMK & other thick PBT dyesub caps.

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>>58360223
>>58360590

>No superior 1390120 model m's in this thread
disappointing

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>>58366368

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What is your opinion on Redragon Kumara?

Decent for an entry level mech, or not?

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>100$~
>US
>cherry mx red
>ANSI
>80%
>backlight preferred

>>58366501
>Red LEDs

anything red and gaming sucks senpai

>>58366501
>>58366850
You can get a cheap RGB board instead.
Layout would be the same.

>>58361884
4 pin jst

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Why aren't there any good TKL/60s on Amazon?

I have money on a gift balance and can't get it out

Is it cheaper to make your own keyboard or better off buying a meme one?

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>>58368518
that very much depends, for low end keyboards (lower than ~150€) it is almost always cheaper to buy one, for anything above there is the chance that you might be cheaper off with building it, but there is more work involved.
the good part about diy keyboards is that they are always fully programmable and it can use parts to your liking. there are also designs that can only be made by yourself, like the dactyl.

maybe look into the gh60 for a fairly low priced and easy diy project.
http://falbatech.pl/prestashop/index.php?id_category=27&controller=category&id_lang=2

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>>58366368
>model m
>superior to The Model F

stay pleb

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>>58368774
>non Topre boards

>>58363491
So it's a Tada68 for faggots with too much money? Not getting this one senpai

>>58363491
It's raffle style anyway lmao
>RAMAfags confirmed for unable to read

>>58368992
>le overpriced membrane maymay
(You)

>>58357999
Looking for a white mech keyboard
>>less than $150
>>USA
>>cherry mx blue preferred
>>ANSI
>>tenkeyless
>>rgb would be cool but isnt necessary

>>58369100
POK3R
O
K
3
R

>>58369115
White mech tkl that isn't a shit cause i actually like having arrow keys

>>58369055
>muh slow outdated keyboard from IBM!
Anyone got the video with the guy that couldn't type "there" or whatever word that had a repeating letter.

fuuuck idk if i shouls get a ducky one or a pok3r i just wana blowm y hed off

>>58369177
pok3r, dont get a fucking pig fat ass keyboard

>>58369215
y is it a pig fatass keyboard

>Budget
$70

>Location (continent at least)
US

>Preferred switch type
Red or Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Full

>Backlight
Don't care, I'll probably just turn it off.

>>58360765
leopold shill here love em

>>58369177
Pok3r or build a GH60

>>58369127
Leopold

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AliExpress seller was nice enough to send me a better picture of these Dolch PBT keycaps. Should I opt for these or the lighter version?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Color-dolch-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-personality-pbt6-g-7g-filco-cherry-3000-3494-keyboarded/32746758706.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PBT-108-key-Blank-Retro-white-grey-OEM-hight-MX-switches-Keycaps-for-wired-USB-Mechanical/32754080911.html

Any good websites to learn touch typing?
I riced my mechanical keyboard but I'm afraid to bring it to meetings/cons cause I'm afraid people will judge me for pecking with my index fingers ;_;

>>58369811
Just get yourself in a situation where you have to type a lot. As a former hunt and peck typist, it just came naturally to me after a couple of years.

>>58366850
Gateron Reds.

>>58366850
The Red Scarf is a pretty good keyboard series man

Where's the best place to buy Cherry Clears? mechanicalkeyboards.com is gonna be roughly $1/switch shipped for me, looking for somewhere a tad cheaper

>>58370249
Try Taobao. The MX Clear you want is called 白轴 (white switch); the MX White is actually called 奶轴 (milky switch).

https://world.taobao.com/item/19228546170.htm#detail

You'll probably need an agent like Basetao to import it to your country, but it may still be cheaper.

>>58370312
Hmm, best price I can find is gonna barely save me $10 at best and possibly be more expensive, depending on how much the Taobao agent charges me. Maybe I'm just gonna have to suck it up and pay out the ass if I really wanna get clears.

>>58369762
I like the darker version better, but it's your keyboard.

MOD Switches, how are they?

>>58366076
>Matias switches
>1976 keycaps

>>58370705
Better than memeios

>>58370776
Stock clears are the perfect switch for me. Heavy enough, weight increase after actuation, not too smooth, nice tactility.

How will I like MOD-Hs?

>>58370871
If stock clears are perfect why pay extra for MODs?

>>58370776
How so? I know the guy's a hack, but I fell for the zealios meme and I unironically like them.

>>58370559
I'll probably go with the dark version with a silver aluminium case for my upcoming GH60 build.

>>58371247
I didn't say memeios are bad, I said MODs are better

anyone here that uses the ajazz geek ak33? how good is it?

>>58370971
I dunno I just don't want 3 boards with clears

>>58371413
The Zorro switches are apparently pretty bad

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3tbswv/reviewso_i_got_one_of_those_china_boards_ajazz/

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It's a shame that numpad-on-the-left is such a rare layout.

>>58371585
That's pretty awesome

Is it an OLKB design? The entire right half is just a Preonic

>>58371585
The escape key being that far out would annoy me to no end.

>>58371585
just diy it or use an external one.

>>58369244
Kahiua is 60 bucks but it has a backlight

>>58369811
Keybr.com

hey fags I'm looking to get a white EagleTec KG011 Office / Industrial LED and I just wanna know if it's an okay keyboard (I'll end up replacing it eventually, but right now it's the style and color I want to match with the rest of my shit so I just need it to not be shit.)

did I fuck up anons?

>>58371928
meh its ok, personally not a fan of kaihl switches cause they kinda wobble alot and each key is not as consistent when you press them down

>>58371987
>meh its ok

As long as it's not *bad* i'll make it work but do you have a personal preference you would recommend (that I could get it white with a blue backlight?)

>>58371995
if you're looking for something cheap, a bit more expensive than eagle-tec

https://smile.amazon.com/Qisan-Keyboard-Mechanical-Backlight-Cable-White/dp/B01AXN24AC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1483799074&sr=8-3&keywords=magicforce%2B68&th=1

cherry blue switches. these are the only white color/blue led ic an find, there are also some gateron switches but not in blue led

anyone got 60% kbs with cute keycaps... i-it's uh.. for my gf....

>>58371585
Nice layout. Where are [, ], and \ though?

>>58372364
go to taobao, buy a white filco minila air and the cmya bottom row blanks

>>58372364
Pok3r with miami keycaps

>>58372364
just get a set of white pbt blanks and dye them yourself.

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>>58372422
with my semen?

i found a npkc miami set which legit cute aff sicne the colors are more pastel compared to tai haos

>>58372483
I-it's called "sticky keys" babe :^)

>>58372483
they aren't as rich and look more like cotton candy, but its a matter of preference really

>>58372483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zCoQOpNzkQ
you could easily get the blue and pink pastel with that method i think.

>>58372562
yeah cotton candy girly

>>58362398
>He already screwed over the Winkeyless people this way (cutting off their access to gat tactile clears)
Does anyone have the full story on this? I heard that Zeal paid for the molds, and Gateron used them to produce Tactile Clears.
I checked Winkeyless, and they are indeed no longer listed under the Gateron switch option. That fucking sucks! I remember they would sell for $0.35 per switch. I just checked out Zeal's site too, and Zealios are selling for $0.85 a switch? Holy fuck, does no one call him out on that pricing?
Anyway, I have a box full of about 90 Tactile Clears that I never used. Are they a collector's item now?

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>>58363491
I don't know what I'm looking at in this pic, but I like it!

>>58372668
You're looking at the latest overpriced and underperforming piece of shit made by a Melbourne hipster who thinks physical size and weight are the only things that matter.

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>>58372690
nonono you got it all wrong. You're looking at an Aussie shitposter who wants to troll the geekwhack community

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>>58372735
He comes from the same place as people like this, are you sure?

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>>58372743
yes

>>58369144
That was a beamspring with incorrect voltage threshold set on the Xwhatsit controller. You know fuck all about keyboards and you quite clearly do not belong here.

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I need a
>rgb
>tkl or smaller
>iso
>cherry red or black
mechanical keyboard available in yurop

and I can't fucking find any, any help?

>>58372946
No help.

>>58372946
Nope, what you need is an IBM Model F

You're welcome

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>>58372965
:(

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>>58372946
nope no such keyboard exists

>>58372946
pok3r

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>>58372946
>>58372965
>>58372970
>>58372978
>>58373002
Ozone Strike Battle Spectra

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>>58372946
this one

>>58373033
that's not ISO

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>>58373076
it actually is

>>58360765
I have the 66key version. It's built like a tank and the PBT keycaps are one of the best you can get that come with a new keyboard.

>>58373174
I pulled the trigger this morning. It'll come soon, really excited desu.

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Post sexy american products

>>58373138
might as well get a Ducky RGB ISO for that price point

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>>58373209
I prefer japanese

>>58360765
>>58373186
I'd be curious to know whether yours comes with DIP switches or not. Apparently the new version has DIP switches, similar to the FC660C. Sadly my local store has the version without DIP switches, or I would've bought one.

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Any minute now, the raffle entry form will go live.
Plenty of time to watch a RAMA M65-A be built, in the meantime!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U79HBPSNu6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U79HBPSNu6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U79HBPSNu6s

>>58370705
They're pretty good. Not as smooth as zeals, but smoother than stock clears. Maybe slightly snappier/more tactile than zeals.

>>58373512
>giving away a $200 keyboard

why?

>>58374311
Not that kind of raffle.

It's a thing artisan makers do on geekwhack, where instead of selling their products, you enter a draw to randomly win the opportunity to purchase their products.

>>58374353
That sounds even worse.

>>58374353
lol? mech keyboard culture is so retarded

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>>58374371
It could be even worse

>>58373213
This

Ducky has some on sale recently and new models have been showing up in listings for shipping.

>>58374353
I don't understand why that shit is done. Surely if a product is popular enough to justify that you could just make more to bring down the price?

>>58374482
That would make it not exclusive any more :^)

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>>58374490

>>58374384
That's not a thing exclusive to mechanical keyboards, you inbred.

>>58374538
Something trigger you?
why not go back to your safe space
https://geekwhack.org/

how do greetech compare to cherry in general?

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>>58374564
the fuck are you trying to say

>>58374581
I'm saying no one likes your kind.

>>58372946
Poker or build a GH60

>PMK suddenly won't ship to me anymore
What's happening? I literally just ordered some caps a couple weeks ago, when did they stop international shipping?

>>58372642
>I heard that Zeal paid for the molds
This is a lie he tells on the internet to get away with fucking people over. Gateron owns the molds.
>Holy fuck, does no one call him out on that pricing?
What do you think all the hate is about?

>Budget
100-150
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Browns - Something for gaming and typing
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
something customizable or at least blue
>Previous/current keyboards
Black Widow razer piece of crap.

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>>58374417
It could be verse.

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>>58374984

>>58374870
I don't know of anyone selling ISO keyboards in the country that invented ANSI except for WASD

>>58375117
what about ansi then.

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>>58375232
If you want ANSI then you have more options
Anything made by Ducky is a solid choise. I'd recommend the One with PBT keycaps.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=2&size=Full+Size&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

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Is there an affordable, quality source of keycaps? I'm looking at buying used because poverty and wondering if I can just replace all the caps without doubling the price.

>>58375339
even cheap pad printed keycaps will cost you like 20 bucks

>>58375339
>Affordable

what do you mean?? whats the maximum price? saying just affordable is pretty subjective

>>58374845
>What do you think all the hate is about?
I suppose I mean that so many people still buy shit from him, instead of forcing him to drop his prices.

>>58375295
would you recommend this for streaming/gaming? with the browns or the red? I dont mind mechanical keyboard clicks but I want something that wont be so loose when typing regularly.

>>58375501
I don't know how much they're "supposed to" cost. Realistically I'm sure they cost less than 10 cents a piece to manufacture to quality spec but I'm sure they're not going to cost close to that.

where can i get plate mount 2u stabilizers and how do they look like?

>>58375633
Cherry-style or costar-style?

>>58375625
Cheapest you can get a thick, cherry profile PBT set is around $30-$40.

>>58375339
used old cherry boards with pbt caps are the cheapest way possible. 8-12€ on average per set, and there are blank pbt sets on ebay and aliexpress that you could later dye.
>>58375649
what is the difference?

Just got a Steelseries 6Gv2 with Cherry MX Black switches, what do you /g/uys think?

>>58375675
http://www.switchtop.com/product/plate-mounted-cherry-stabilizers

http://www.switchtop.com/product/costar-stabilizers-and-keycap-inserts

I wish I never went mechanical. My other keyboards actually feel disgusting to type on now.

>>58375816
i think i would like costar ones, is there any other place to get them in germany? paying more for shipping than for the product on something that weights under 100g is always a bit weird.
thanks

>>58375622
That Ducky One has programmable macros so if you do play games and want something like that then I'd suggest you buy it. All cherry switches are solid (they are the consumer standard after all). As for reds I personally don't like them since they offer no tactile feedback, unlike a rubber dome which does. There is no such thing as a gaming switch by the way.

>>58375761
>bigass enter key
thats really the only problem with the keyboard. The keycaps have poor build quality. My rubber dome has laser etched caps, while the steel series is pad printed. Luckily you can get replacements from china

>>58375913
I have to work at least 3 days a week from the office on a shitty dell membrane keyboard.

>>58375945
does it come with different frame options? Like color wise? these are less important questions obviously. It looks like this is going to be a good choice either way.

>>58375989
then get a matias qc
Europe:
http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&path=mechanical+keyboards&swi=Matias+Quiet+Click&ss=de&rtv=100
USA:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>58376000
Only the non backlit ones have macro support. As for color options there are a few, but not that many for browns
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=1&switch=&size=&led=none&capmat=&capprint=&model=17&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>58375554
There are a lot of witless clowns on Reddit who will buy anything shiny you dangle in front of them. Trying to reason with them is futile, they didn't vote for Trump.

>>58362398
>>58376120
thanks for the heads up, getting zealios for my next build :)

>>58357999
What keycaps are those?

>>58376075
OK, I'm starting to understand I think. PBT is the key's themselves its a different quality that doesn't start to wear down as much right? if I got the back lit one would I be able to change it to PBT keys?

this is the one that Ive been looking at with the information you gave me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV1YGuY9Db4

>>58376230
SA selectric, I think.

>>58376326
Thanks.

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>>58376241
There's some vocabulary you should know if you're gonna be in these threads.

PBT, ABS, and POM are different types of plastic used in the construction of keyboard parts. Keycaps are almost always made out of PBT or ABS. ABS is cheaper than PBT, but the oils on your fingers will polish it over time, so it won't retain its texture. PBT does not have this problem.

Pad printing, dye sublimation, laser engraving, and doubleshot molding are different methods for making the legends on keycaps. Doubleshot legends are the longest-lasting. These are made by injecting the mold twice with two colors of plastic (ie. two "shots"). A few years ago, this could only be done with ABS plastic, but Vortex invented a method of making the keycap body out of PBT and the legend out of something else. This is how backlit PBT keycaps are made. Cheaper brands use a stupid-looking font for these because the mold inserts are easier to make.

Different families of switches use different mounts. The big ones are Alps, Topre, and the most popular, Cherry MX. Most mechanical switches are clones of Cherry MX switches, and use identical mounts. You can replace the keycaps on almost any keyboard as long as the mounts match. Almost all aftermarket keycaps use Cherry MX mounts, which look like pic related.

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Did I get memed with this keyboard?

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What kind of keycap is this?

>>58376661
The meme part of it would be the media keys and volume knob. I have an earlier Das Professional 3 without media functions but if I were to buy one now, it'd be the Prime 13 model.

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>>58376568
I swear my Ducky PBT keycaps look thicker

>>58376667
looks like laser etched ABS

>>58376661
I hate this fucking keyboard
>Cat keeps stepping on the dedicated computer sleep button and stopping everything I'm doing
Who thought this was a good idea?

>>58376661
Yeah. The first generation or two was worth it but after a couple years they switched to cheaper manufacturers, abandoned all pretenses of QA, and focused on milking their brand popularity for as much cash as possible.

>>58376682
They do look thicker. Maybe they changed their molds, or maybe my picture was mislabeled. I found it somewhere and don't know who made it.

>>58376661
The newer ones have worse build quality then the older ones, while still being the same price. I'd say pass, unless you want an older one

>>58376719
Kek, I have no power buttons connected on my PC case because they were top mounted and my cat kept turning off or rebooting my PC. It runs 24/7, but if for some reason I need to shutdown or loose power for longer than my UPS can last, I have to open the case and press the button on the mainboard.

>desktop keyboard
>you can control the volume with the F keys haha xD
Why are keyboard manufacturers still allowed to get away with this?

>>58366787
Do you mean TKL?

>>58357999
i like the thing above it more but this also looks like a neat project. a more normie friendly ortholinear split keyboard makes sense.

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>>58376977
you mean the ergodox

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>>58377014
Indeed

How do I retrain myself not to bottom out? Should I just take it slow for a while?

Also, what are some good typing tips in general?

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We ergodox now?

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>>58377076
how is fullhand treating you? i was thinking about building a second case to have it.

when i get my ergodox, i cant decide between just getting white pvc from falbatech, getting white pvc and staining it a different colour or getting wood

>>58377127
i would go for a wooden fullhand case, either diy or on falbatech. especially because there are no nuts/screws on the top this way.

>>58377102
It's pretty nice when tented. With the tall SA caps I end up hovering most of the time while actually typing.

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I kind of want these but I have nothing to put them on.

>>58377553
put them on your dick

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>Industrial IBM Model M
>1991
>1795 USD

just fuck my shit up

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>>58377102
reminds me of mittens very kawaii

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>top row is R3 instead of R4

Well there goes my temptation to put an order in.

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>>58377899
>living in Argentina

>>58377899
That guys an idiot, full size industrials have been going for less than 200 dollars recently.

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Anon who bought the used pok3r here. Just finished cleaning each key and the plate from the dirt and pubic hair and putting it back together (caps were changed to a DVORAK layout)
Caps are somewhat worn out but I'm planning to get dem carbons as soon as they come back. I also need a cool cable.

>put cheap ABS caps on me Anne Pro
>feels 100% worse
>donor keyboard with anne pro caps feels 100% better

fuck and I thought it was just imaginary

>>58378005
dsa and sa are the way to go on an ergodox. and if you like to fiddle with firmware get blanks.

>>58378218
How are you liking 60% so far?

>>58378244
thats PBT for ya

New Thread!
>>58378427
>>58378427
>>58378427
>>58378427

>>58360050
Give the topre a couple days. When I got my hhkb I was a bit underwhelmed but I quickly grew to really liking them