/fglt/ Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

linux is for retards

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>>58348440
yeah but why gnu mad?

>>58348440
GNU/Linux*

>>58348490
I would pay top dollar to see Linus wear that costume and do a musical dance number with RMS wearing a GNU costume.

>>58348490
linus sucks, acts like a fucking toddler by sticking to gplv2 with the kernel, makeing it incompatible to most other gplv3 open source projects. that "allowing to lock free software down is more free", is basically pants on head retarded bsd mentality right there

/blog

>>58348610
>that "allowing to lock free software down is more free"
which is true (if you aren't forced to use it)

>>58348628
it violates fredom 0

>>58348628
>>58348638
the Tivo incident never actually violated any of the freedoms, but were jew enough to find a way to release GPL software and still have it limit your freedoms.

>>58348638
>>58348649
i don't recognize your retarded definitions of "freedom" where there are more than one of it. you can keep your childish games to yourself.
i don't expect a cuck like yourself to understand what implications this word has though so it's fine.

>>58348638
>true fredom violates fake fredom
good. that's perfectly consistent with the real world.

>>58348628
>>58348668
>>58348693
It only seems that way because we live in a backwards world where our laws try to force the wacky idea of owning things that are literally impossible to own.

Although I admit software is a little tricky though because technically the binary file is fully available to anyone, so in a sense it is free (if you're a computer that can understand and benefit from reading binary). So wanting them to release the source code is debatable.
However, the point still stands that it only looks "less free" because of the way we're used to thinking about copyrights.

>>58348668
>>58348693
>You can have the source code, but you're forbidden from running any modified versions of the source code despite the license allowing you to.
That's some true kikery right there.

>>58348668
freedom means not being a slave
when a user is using free software, he should have specific freedoms, that why the GPL is here

>>58348708
>we
why do you assume i live in your country or even in a similar country? you really don't know much about me to make such statements.

i don't feel like reading the rest of your post right now though. maybe later. or if you rewrite it in lowercase and don't use retarded word games or don't make assumptions about the "world" someone lives in.
>>58348711
yeah, you can be a kike who does this. i don't see how this is anti freedom.
>>58348742
no software is yet capable of enslaving people. we haven't progressed that far.

>>58348759
>no software is yet capable of enslaving people. we haven't progressed that far.

so when tell me what exactly happens when you run a nonfree program? are you doing stuff YOU want or are you doing stuff the program allows you to do?

>>58348759
I said world not country dingus.

>>58348798
yeah, i would do exactly what i want. i am not delusional and i don't expect or want to modify it since i don't have the source code.
make a new post when we have the capability to enslave humans via programs though. i am really interested in this topic.
>>58348806
so the whole world is exactly the same? i see who i'm dealing with here.
even the people who have no idea of any kind of civilization somehow know about fake bullshit like intellectual "property"?

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>"In some ways, Linux was the project that really made the split clear between what the FSF is pushing which is very different from what open source and Linux has always been about, which is more of a technical superiority instead of a -- this religious belief in freedom."

Is there any info around about how audio and video stacks on operating systems such as linux work?

Stuff such as video drivers, GPUs to windowing systems.

>>58348889
>fake bullshit like intellectual "property"?
If your position is that it's fake then why the fuck are you arguing about this in the first place?
Are you literally autistic and just arguing because I used the word "we" too loosely?

>>58348953
me being able to recognize obvious facts like I"P" being fake (which is pretty much just 3-5 minutes of thinking about really simple stuff) doesn't somehow mean i agree with your retarded definition of "freedom""""""s""""""".
>Are you literally autistic and just arguing because I used the word "we" too loosely?
and yeah, this too.

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(((FSF))) is trash
Not open source software, just FSF

>>58348986
Then if you think intellectual property is bullshit then the only thing you could possibly dislike about the GPL is the release of source code part.
Which I addressed in my first post, please re-read it.

>>58349001
t. closet cuckold

>>58349013
i think cuckold would be too removed for him, he'd love to share the dick with his wife

>>58349010
>intellectual property
Stop using that retarded term.

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>>58349013
Fat kike stallman wants it to be a crime to sell proprietary software or DRM. BSD is true freedom.

>children back from school in australia
>shitposting in full force
everytime

Are there any Linux distros that don't send your data to Amazon/Google/NSA anymore?

>>58349034
BSD is literal cuckoldry. You're giving anyone permission to take your code, close it, and make mass profit off it while you slave away for free. Your code is literally getting fucked by the bull and you just sit there in the corner and watch.

>>58349053
GNU/Linux*

>>58349062
>your code
Wrong. BSD code. Which I don't give a fuck about.
I will never publish anything under a license since I disagree with the very practice of it.

>>58349062
yes. i do love to cuck my bsd. it is under my full control.

>>58349027
That's his term, not mine. Get off my dick.

>>58349010
you think that every single dev out there should cater to your needs and provide you your """""""""freedoms""""""""". which is simply wrong and you aren't entitled to force other people to pander to your desires.

>>58349053
Not even Debian is safe anymore.

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>>58349051
please don't insult my people

>>58349127
Ok, you can just fuck off if you're only here to disguise preaching your opinions as actual discussion.

>>58349141
>implying you're worthy of even being called people

>>58349168

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    <<< "${@:-$(cat /dev/stdin)}"
}

>>58349176
i haven't even outright stated most of my opinions though you can deduce most of them if you actually possess any rationality (which you probably don't since you think you are entitled to literally every single developer catering to you which is pretty delusional to be quite honest)

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>>58349187
we are the best people

>>58349247
We are number one!

>>58349192
You don't need cat faggot.

"${@:-$(</dev/stdin)}"

>>58349226
You're just rambling about the same general topic, not discussing.

>>58349253
nice

>>58349251
>>58349247
All you're good at is shitposting you penal colony.

>>58349262
i don't know what they call "discussing" where you're from but here what i'm doing right now could be called discussing, you aren't keeping up though.

>>58349192
ebun

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>>58349251
yes!
>>58349280
We are the simply best at it

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simply the best* Lmao

is IceCat worth using instead of Firefox?

How do I learn to make quality posts in this thread? I'm new here by the way and I just installed this system like a week ago.

>>58349280
All your posts make me wonder who is actually Australian here

>>58349346
What is the best browser for Freedoms™?

>>58349352
Just make sure to always put GNU/ in front of every other word in your post and you're good to go

>>58349346
Slit your throat please.

>>58349352
post rare stallmans

>>58349394
this

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>>58349394

How did friendly thread get so /pol/? Only reason I come to /g/ is really going to shit.

>>58348343
Should I install parabola?

>>58349463
I told you that I would invite friends from /pol/ if you kept up your socialism bullshit.

>>58349463
>Everything I disagree with is /pol/
Most of this thread is anons having fun, learn to lighten up a bit.

>>58349062
You seem to think I care what people do with my code.

>>58349463
Yeah IDK. This one is worse than usual. Needs some love from a ban hammer wielding mod.

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>>58349434

>>58349463
>Complaining about /pol/
You just confirmed my suspicion that you along with most of this thread are straight from reddit. I wasn't even stating a /pol/ opinion, you have to go back.

>>58349501
>a pro-censorship commietard
what a surprise

>>58348343
would you kindly stop going all RMS on us?

1. Don't you fucking dare start a list with 0. If you do this you might as well just yell something like "I'm a programmer. Hurr durr muh Lisp" and masturbate to emacs' source code.

2. Stop calling it GNU/Linux. RMS tried to develop a kernel for his system for years and Linus Torvalds did it in months. GNU is nothing without Linux but Linux is still a working Kernel without GNU.

>>58349466
no

>>58349503
>Complaining about /r/eddit
You just confirmed my suspicion that you along with most of this thread are straight from reddit. I wasn't even stating a reddit opinion, you have to go back.

>>58349520
y so mad tho senpai. Linux will always be Linux. GNU will always be GNU. GNU/Linux is the combination of both.

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>>58349463
Australian redditors

>>58349520
>GNU is nothing without Linux but Linux is still a working Kernel without GNU.

Yeah, I'm sure you'd love running a computer with only a kernel installed.

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is there a distro that uses only proprietary software?

>>58349558
ubuntu on windows 10

>>58349558
Arch

>>58349554
>implying only gnu can provide a userland
You have to go back

>>58349558
gentoo can filter by license
just disable all free licenses

>>58349566
>implying you can compile your kernel without gnu
>>>/p/lebbit

>>58348948
Yeah, but are you ready to read a books worth of material? You are basically going to need to dive into kernel internals. Start here maybe, and move onto a book if you are still interest (O'Reilly has several I believe).
https://github.com/0xAX/linux-insides
https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_Kernel_Newbies
(really out of date, but should give you some idea how things work): http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/tlk.html

>>58349566
>implying only Linux can provide a kernel

See how easy it is to be a retard?

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>>58349562
i don't wanna use windows trash.
>>58349563
It uses free software though?
>>58349570
thanks!

>>58349570
>just disable all free licenses
would the system even work?

>>58349514
If you want a free for all, go back to /b/. This is the friendly linux thread. Besides, I'm a pro-censorship facistard.

>>58349590
of course not

>>58349580
yeah, you can.
>>58349585
gnu is still nothing without a kernel, that's the point. until they develop hurd that is, which is pretty much never.

>>58349520
Not sure if trolled or trolling

>>58349554
that's not the point. most of today's super computers that run Linux actually run a custom system with the Linux kernel while there has never been a finished, stable GNU system with an alternate kernel

>>58349596
We don't welcome leftists here. you have to leave.

>>58349618
fuck off retard, go back to your shithole >>>/p/ollit

>>58349580
Sure use clang and the BSD unix utils.

>>58349631
why are you sending me to a left wing board? I thought I made it pretty clear that I don't like your kind

>>58349635
clang cant compile linux

>>58349640
kek
http://llvm.linuxfoundation.org/index.php/Main_Page

>>58349640
it can in my timeline, it's 2017 here right now

>>58349640
stop talking like linux is a kernel, it's an os and can pretty much compile itself

>>58349648
GNU/Linux*

>>58349346
Absolutely not, unless if you care about dumb IP shit.

is there a way to completly de-GNU my system? I'm using arch linux, if it matters

>>58349640
Switching to it. Now there's literally no reason to not use a right wing compiler.

>>58349466
no, unless if you want both AIDS and autism.

>>58349673
>arch
no, you can stay with the GNU plebs.

>>58349673
Install a bsd or alpine

did torvalds fix the linux filepicker yet?
last time I tested, there was no way to enable a "thumbnail icon view", you know what I mean

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>>58349691
>BSD

is systemd really a botnet?

>>58349701
Yeah , he made a patch. too bad many distros ignored it.

>>58349704
GPL is for cucks, install BSD.

zsh: command not found: screenfetch
pls help

>>58349723
Whats your distro?

Is there any good ricing guide for Linux Mint?

>>58349723
do this:
sudo pacman -R systemd

>>58349723
Unfriendly answer: Instead of trying to show off read a bit about package managers
friendly answer: apt-get install screenfetch

>>58349716
BSD is for cucks, install plan9

>>58349739
>Mint
>ricing
Eh, you want to start with a minimal distribution when it comes to ricing.

Or you know, you be a productive person and use GNOME.

>>58349773
i haven't evolved to that stage yet. maybe someday...

>>58349774
>le minimal distro meme
lol why, he could just install i3 or bspwm and rice right away

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If anybody is (crazy enough) interested you can almost run an entire GNU system now. There's all these stripped down linux kernel projects going on like libOS where the entire kernel network stack fits in a userland library.

So what one can do is build a really stripped down Linux kernel, write a Mach IPC compatibility layer, run the Hurd servers on top of it and plug in the resulting product with GuixSD (own init daemon, service scripts, pkg manager ect all written in scheme).

You get a full OS that is entirely configurable in Scheme with all of its services running as userland file servers (translators) in a sort of Plan 9-ish way, all the while supporting the Linux API. Hurd also has features like running multiple instances of itself in user mode (subhurds) that can serve a similar purpose to containers, which of course you could easily replicate since Guix allows for this, you just fill out in scheme exactly what you want and nothing else and jails/containers could be scripted to run everytime you started something, like say a browser.

To get even freakier you could make Emacs your DE upon boot and run the entire system never having to leave it, or even go to the shell.

how do you defend yourself against arch hackers?

>>58349793
>le x meme
>>>/r/abbit

>>58349828
become a gentoo hacker.

@58349826
yeah.... or you could just run based FreeBSD

>>58349793
Mint is garbage, he should install ubuntu.

>>58349855
ubuntu is garbage, he should install debian

>>58349865
ubuntu works fine as long as you use mate or lxde

>>58349865
debian is garbage, he should install gentoo.

>>58349855
Mint is far better than Amazon/Ubuntu.

>>58349876
t. nobody ever

>>58349876
they're both shit, it's just that one is orange shit and the other is green shit, but its still shit

Daily reminder that openBSD had an FBI backdoor for 10 (ten) years.

>>58349876
At least ubuntu is made by a competent team compared to mint, and it doesn't come with FUCKING FLASH pre-installed.

>>58349826
So apparently upon further research there's a port of GuixSD to Debian/Hurd being worked on so an entirely GNU system is actually happening.

Debian/Hurd contains ~80% of the software that is found in Debian/Linux. (like Firefox, glibc ect).

>tfw an entire GNU system is almost possible

>>58349923
this, basically, but, you know, newfriends want that stuff

>>58349923
>Ubuntu comes with a literal Amazon botnet out in the open installed
>"B-b-but muh flash!"

>>58349936
ubuntu has security, mint doesn't

>>58349931
i can't wait. i hope you plebs actually switch though so you can leave lincux alone. maybe it will become less controlled by kikes.

>>58349920
Debian you could trivially decrypt any ssh/vpn/TLS connection for over 3 years because that one developer commented out a line in the RNG.

There was never a backdoor found in OpenBSD

>>58349953
t. Theo

>>58349931
can't await to get rid of that freedom hating linux folks

Daily reminder that GNU has been a CIA project for 12 (twelve) years.
Daily reminder that Lincux has been an NSA project for 9 (nine) years.

>>58349932
Encouraging people, especially beginners, to use harmful stuff like flash is always a terrible idea.
>>58349936
That was a retarded move but they removed the amazon search thing forever ago.

>>58349931
Isn't Firefox also a botnet?

>>58349971
you forgot one:
Daily reminder that openBSD had an FBI backdoor for 10 (ten) years.

>>58349968
You won't switch though since your toy system would be even more shitty than Linkeks. I wish you would though.

>>58349971
>Daily reminder that Lincux has been an NSA project for 9 (nine) years.
only if you use fedora or any other selinux distros

>>58349982
Source on this?

>>58349971
And this?

Or just more disinfo hysteria?

>>58349988
yeah, or the lincux kernel.

>>58349988
T-there's nothing wrong with fedora or NSAlinux!

>>58349995
>Source on this?
>>58349920

>>58349931
unless you want you know, actual drivers for your hardware

>>58349968
Hurd (Mach) has a bunch of advantages being a microkernel though, you can hack any part of it not knowing what your'e doing and not crash the system because it's all split up into separate userland memory (this had bonus security points too).

A regular user, can even run their own kernel and load mods for it, without rebooting. It truly is the Freedom(tm)(c) kernel.

Plus with decentralization being preferred these days and people shilling parallel algorithms Hurd can pick up in this space, which apparently it already has in Germany and NL where they're using it for some bioinformatics shit according to HN posts.

>tfw finally free of the Botnet

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>FBI
>backdoor
>for
>10
>years

>>58350025
the drivers exist in userland for Hurd so you just jack the driver from Linux or whoever else, point Hurd to them it's pretty easy too.

no recompiling or rebooting

@58350034
>a bunch of advantages
>you can hack any part of it not knowing what your'e doing
lmao
truly python script kiddy tier trash

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>BSD users write their software on macs and compile it on linux box running GCC because clang produces slow as shit binaries

BUT PS3 USED BSD THAT COUNTS

>>58350058
good outdated meme
nice try though

>>58350038
for >>58350012 >>58349982 >>58349920

>>58350058
What you’re GNUing to as GNU, is in fact, GNU/GNU, or as GNU's recently taken to GNUing it, GNU plus GNU. GNU is not an GNU GNUstem unto itGNU, but rather another GNUree GNU of a fully GNUing GNU GNUstem made GNUful by the GNU GNUlibs, GNU GNUtilties and vital GNU GNUponents GNUing a full GNU OS as GNUed by GNU. Many GNU GNUers run a GNUified GNUrsion of the GNU GNUstem every GNU, without GNUing it. Through a GNUuliar turn of GNU, the GNUrsion of GNU which is GNUly used today is often called “GNU”, and many of its GNUers are not GNU that it is GNUically the GNU GNUstem, GNUed by the GNU ProjGNU. There really is a GNU, and these GNUple are GNUing it, but it is GNU a GNU of the GNUstem they use. GNU is the GNU: the GNU in the GNUstem that GNUs the GNU’s GNU to the other GNU that you GNU. The GNU is a GNUtial GNU of an GNU GNUstem, but GNUless by itGNU; GNU can only GNUtion in the GNUtext of a GNUplete GNU GNUstem. GNU is GNUmally used in combiGNUtion with the GNU GNU GNUstem: the whole GNUstem is GNUsically GNU with GNU added, or GNU/GNU. All the so-called “GNU” distribGNUtions are really distribGNUtions of GNU/GNU.

>>58350077
*Linux

>>58350055
This was always the goal of GNU though, so regular people could program and modify their own systems without having to be experts.

RMS has a story about when Emacs was first released in the 70s secretaries quickly picked up enough Elisp to write their own programs. Experimenting/hacking is how we all learn

Can someone help me find a DE/WM, looked like the original Mac desktop, has a purple theme.

>>58350091
yeah, i'm really looking forward to you "moving" to it if it's anything like emacs aka shit

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>>58350070
>GUYS WE MADE THE SWITCH 3 MONTHS AGO CAUSE THIS TIME LLVM'S BINARIES ACTUALLY BOOT

>>58350091
So GNU is basically a free version of Mac? Cool.

>>58350121
Emac, not Mac.

>>58350106
Where's your program that still has active development 40 years later? Show us your amazing skills

>>58350111
this is a more up to date one. still a shitty attempt though since you don't actually mock anything bad about it. You are pretty new at this aren't you?

>>58350093
Windowmaker?

>>58350034
When can we get Hurd?

Also, I thought we can't be free of the botnet thanks to hardware backdoors in all computers made in the last decade?

>>58350077
>without GNUing it.
Fuck you, I spit milk all over my monitor

>>58350139
You could buy it from me for 15 AUD. It's proprietary by the way.

>>58350146
That's the one, ty friendo

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>>58350161
>AUD

We need to get Gookmoot to just entirely block your whole country like how Jim blocked numerous countries on twochannel.

>>58350106
People who call emacs shit are just upset they don't have 15 minutes of patience to learn keyboard shortcuts other than those they learned for Microshit Word in 4th grade, so they never get good at it.

>>58350160
>milk
Yeah... "Milk"...

>>58350193
Or they're people with normal-shaped hands.

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Hey /fglt/ did you hear about the famous attempt (from a single guy) who wanted to make BSD more attractive to people?

GnoBSD by Stefan Rinkes.
An OpenBSD-based live DVD with automatic hardware detection which would boot into a popular graphical desktop and which would also have a point-and-click graphical system installer.

You know stuff we take for granted among Linux users.

But the developer made a huge mistake.
He announced it (what he thought would be a desirable change in the BSD community) on the openBSD mailing lists, which gnoBSD was based on.

>>58350193
i use vim though which is objectively superior in every way except not being written in a functional language

>>58350190
Good luck. I won't live here anymore soon so you can't catch me. Still can't do anything about the genes though!

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>>58350263
>boot into a popular graphical desktop
>point-and-click graphical system installer
>stuff we take for granted among Linux users.
fucking kek
are lincucks actually this ratarded?

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>>58350263
>>58350340

And his product actually worked!

But he faces a humongous BACKLASH from the openBSD community because it wasn't HARDCORE enough.

He was PRESSURED by the bsdfaggots to turn the whole project into a bunch of scripts that you'd have to prepare an openBSD iso with because IT DIDNT CREDIT OPENBSD ENOUGH.

Can you imagine a community that's composed entirely of the worst archetype of an archfaggot?

That's the BSD community for you.


Theo de Raadt is afraid of openBSD becoming popular.
Because then people would point fingers at it and laugh

and bsd niggers WILL defend it

what distro should i run on my ps3

>>58350345
Huh? You just contradicted yourself in this post (idk how to link on this site)

>>58350358
anything that uses only prop rotary software

>>58350193
I thought I would give emacs a try for a week or so once. It started shitting out temporary files all over my system.
and so my little experiment was brought to a premature conclusion.

>>58350509
they're backups.
they exist for a reason.
you'd know that if you actually had a job in the field

you can move them to a separate directory
or turn them off completely i assume for editing arch WM configs you don't need that

>>58348343
This is the first time I've heard of GuixSD - does /g/ use this? for what?

>>58350526
and you'd know, if you ever moved your files around instead of pretending each file has a permanent home, that it's retarded to just crap out backups all over the damn place in every directory you edit a file in instead of keeping backups in a separate location.

>>58350555
Probably nobody uses it. We just like the idea of it.

>>58350345
If you did the same thing and brought that to the Exherbo mailing list they'd shit all over it too as both projects are developer OSs primarily for other developers. This also isn't a BSD thread

>>58350556
Good luck with keeping track of every single file you edit once you dump them in a single folder.

Every sane file manager hides emacs backups.

But like I said, this is just the default setting which you're able to change. That's the whole point of emacs.

>>58350555
It's heavily used on hacker news

It's a lot like NixOS except the DSL they use is Scheme (Guile) instead of the weird Haskell like DSL Nix uses.

You use it for transactional upgrades, rollbacks, reproducible builds ect. For example if you wanted to build docker containers on your laptop and deploy them exact as is you'd use Nix/Guix for this.

GuixSD is the entire system (you can just add Guix (package manager) if you wanted to any system) they're currently rolling out. It's mainly for developers but gaining traction because you can specify exactly what you want in a distro install (like how they use Puppet, Ansible, Chef ect) except more fine grained.

tl;dr if you need a server/container with exact build specifications use Guix/Nix

>>58350509
>>58350556
Emacs default settings are notoriously retarded. See sentence-end-double-space, c-mode and many others.

Control in it's default position is difficult to use. This is true for vim as well, but you can avoid it.

>>58350674
>Control in it's default position is difficult to use.
how? just press it with the 5th metacarpal

>>58350607
What do if you want specific options set in configuration files?

>>58350706
there's an emacs mode for that

>>58349463
BSD shills.

>>58350724
That will allow the main guix/nix configuration to specify specific options in the configuration files of each package so that I can install those packages on another machine with the same main guix/nix configuration file and it will automatically have those same options set in the packages own configuration files?

>>58350607
>Haskell like DSL Nix uses.
i wish

>>58350706
It all goes into your one system config file entirely described in scheme such as `((".bashrc" ,(plain-file "bashrc" "echo Hello\n"))

Guix/Nix solve the problems of existing package managers which are pure shit by today's standards. They install everything into the global /usr directory so that you can't have differing sets of dependencies for different software and they require root access because /usr is only writeable by root.

With functional package managers the entire dependency graph is precisely captured, all the way down to a small set of bootstrap binaries that are the roots of the graph. If you break anything you can effortlessly roll back to a previous commit too.

>>58350698
It gets tiring after a while and I want to avoid the emacs pinky.

>>58350674
Installing the Prelude defaults fixes a lot of issues of default emacs. You can remap your capslock key at OS level or w/emacs or buy a Sun Unix keyboard with control key in capslock area from Unicomp

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can anyone tell me why certain icon packs won't display proper colors on XFCE? La Capitaine shows grey while Numix Circle shows white. help

>>58350905
>La Capitaine shows grey
obviously made for a bright panel.

take off your trip

>>58350934
??? that makes no sense mate, I used this icon pack earlier and it didn't pull this shit on me. Why does my trip matter that much to everyone.

>>58350951
>that makes no sense mate, I used this icon pack earlier and it didn't pull this shit on me
you obviously switched some facts around. Try to remind yourself what you did.

>Why does my trip matter that much to everyone.
try taking it off and see

>>58350961
right, I didn't clarify. It started this shit since I re-installed arch coming from manjaro.
>try taking it off and see
Last time I did some asshole started impersonating me (don't know why you'd do that to yourself)

Do Nix or Guix have a source based option? And do they have bleeding edge packages?

>>58351004
yah

>>58351017
yah is depreciated, use yaas

>>58350812
Yes, this presentation explains it all though it's from 2015 and they've made a lot of improvements already http://dustycloud.org/misc/talks/guix/chicagolug_2015/guix_talk.html

If you use Guix you can toss virtualenv / gems / jhbuild environments and just use guix environment

>>58351004
You can use Nix packages with Guix if you can't find one in the FSF 'repositories' (quoted because with Guix/nix you can find a package on a USB on the street and still install it because you get reproducible builds down to the bit by bit level).

Both are used in production right now so esp if you're a developer you'll find shit in there you'll want but for everyday pleb use you may not like latest video players ect.

>>58351004
You would just write a 10 line scheme file to make your source a package, there's no complicated .deb or rpm packing or anything

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>>58349062
>BSD is literal cuckoldry.
And GPL is a meme

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>>58349961
>>>58349953
>t. Theo

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i want to do a barebones ubuntu installation using the mini.iso, selecting only the standard system utilities, then install the i3 window manager.

i'm having trouble finding installation information. do i need to do anything other than "sudo apt-get install i3"?

what is lightdm? is this required for i3 to work? are there alternatives?

are there other things i need to install for volume controls on the bar and stuff like that?

thanks.

What's a good music library program? I just want to easily move, order, rename etc.

>>58352504
You just want to move and rename?

>>58352514
And see more easily what's in my music folder than the standard file browser. I have Audacious installed as my player but I think that one can't edit or move.

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>>58350058
Can confirm

>>58350058
ps3 was based on BSD do not hint that ps3 was using BSD

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>>58348343
Someone fucking help me with AMD GPUs and Debian Stretch, I have been mostly a Intel/NVIDIA user before but my current machine has R9 290.

What drivers am I supposed to use with this, it makes me confused as fuck, I read about stuff like "AMDGPU" and "AMDGPU-PRO" and "radeon" etc.

Currently I am using opensource "radeon" drivers, and they have poor performance in CSGO for example, and if possible I would like to improve it. Otherwise they work just great. The thing is I have no idea what drivers should I use with AMD GPUs, which one would work better and how the hell can I install one in Debian testing? I cant figure this out with Google either, I have no idea what driver should bring better performance and which one is compatible with my R9 290 and how do I install it on my distro.

Is someone more familiar with AMD GPUs and their drivers who could tell me what to use and how do I install it on Debian? As I said, I am confused as fuck with these, mostly I use Intel or NVIDIA graphics on other machines.

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I've installed Mint Cinnamon on a VM and installed Atom text editor, but every time I try to run it (even in safe mode) the whole desktop environment shits itself, Atom itself is all black and I have to restart the virtual machine to get the DE back to normal. Any idea what is going on?

>>58352878
are you running cinnamon under software rendering mode?

>>58352903
Not sure, I remember that first few times I booted the VM up I got the software rendering mode warning and I was trying to fix this problem, the warning pop up stopped appearing after 2 or 3 boot ups, so I thought I've managed to make it work in hardware mode.

>>58352936
Yes your GPU drivers aren;t installed, look up how to fix it with your virtualization software

>>58352864
>I cant figure this out with Google either,
Guess it's time for you to learn how to use this Google thing already.

Are there any good 10" netbooks? looking at buying a Dell Latitude 2120 but
>Atom n550 1.5GHz
Though i cant complain for $75

Are there any non-castrated <13 inch books?

friendly reminder that systemd is a cancer growing inside your machine and one day you'll have two kernels in your computer: systemd and linux

>>58353002
What's so bad about systemd?

>>58353002
What's so bad about systemd?

>>58353002
What's so bad about systemd?

>>58353002
What's so bad about cancer?

>>58353002
What's so bad about having two kernels?

>>58353002
Why do you care if I use systemd?

>>58349135
Expand

I don't even know what systemd is

>>58349053
All distros allow Internet access, so no, obviously there is no distro that protects you from sending your data.
And who would want that anyway?

>>58353227
an init system with extra features

>>58353306
so, a friend with benefits?

>>58353321
more like an overprotective parent.

Is there a somewhat unbiased TLDR on the libreboot situation?

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Anonymity focused distros please?
I can only think of Tails

>>58349739
Do you mean for Cinnamon or for the distro itself? If it's the latter then just look up any Ubuntu ricing guide since they're almost the same thing. Check the /g/ wiki too.

What distributions work best for a tablet PC?
I'm thinking something with a really touch-friendly DE. Is gnome the best?

>>58353993
I would suggest gnome 3 or unity. I see unity as a shit desktop, but it should behave better on tablets

is it possible not to show your username in terminal?
Show only machine name

>>58354568
yes

>>58354603
teach me how

>>58354685
Just change your PS1

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i cant write accented characters. I have set the correct layout that works perfectly fine for everything but accented characters which dont output at all. i have no problem writing accented characters in the terminal but in X it doesnt work.

>>58354735
to clarify, outside of X i can write åäöéë and etc, but inside X i cant. Im running i3 if that helps

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>>58354714
What's wrong with my PS1?

>>58354770
Set your X keyboard layout to something that has those characters

>>58354812
i did,

setxkbmap se

all keys works as usual for the layout, its just that i cant write accented characters

I'm going to install GNU/Linux because handling dev libraries for Rust is a pain in the ass on Windows. I need to figure out how to dualboot it with Windows because Windows partition is encrypted using VeraCrypt. Should I decrypt Windows first before installing Ubuntu?

>>58351639
judging from your post, you are not yet ready for a minimal netinstall system.

>>58354871
if its just the windows partition thats encrypted then install ubuntu should work fine along

>>58349971
So, everyone migrate to Ubuntu 04.10?

>>58354881
I'm going to try it, thank you.

>>58354867
Weird, do you use a DE that might interfere with it?

>>58354944
i have only set up i3 and xorg

>>58355105
seems to work on my machine

>>58354944
>>58355147
>>58354867
>>58354770
>>58354735
fixed it, uncommented swedish from locale.gen finally fixed it

>>58355228
Still weird, worked for me and I don't have a swedish locale

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So what do yall use for viewing looped animated gifs?

None of the CLI programs I've tried do it and I'm loath to try use a program with a massive intrusive GUI just to view a discrete image. I'd love it if you could just view them in Ranger's image preview pane but it doesn't support it.

>>58355105
i i3 same and i have problem with layouts
i use serbian cyrilic and us_en and after some usage layout get stuck at cyrilic letters and wont change.
I have set

setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,rs

but shit aint working after some time
when i get stuck with cyrillic i just open terminal and it loads command from .bashrc and then everything works

>>58355268
Nevermind, the answer was imv.

>>58348343
How is it possible for FreeBSD to be such utter shit?
>xfce doesn't come with glib schemas
>have to install GNOME3
It's like it's just a server OS or something

I have problem with download speed when i download using torrent client.
I have 10mega downlad but when i download via torrent it wont go over 2mega but when i download from browser it is 10mega.
Torrents im downloading are not problem
>using qbit

Anyone know of some Windows 95 style icon packs?

I mean, that aren't just straight up copies of the actual windows 95/98 style icons.

Is KDE Neon a meme? I'm using Arch right now but I'm thinking about going back to a Ubuntu based distro since Wifi and Bluetooth and stuff just werks out of the box.

https://rms.sexy/

>>58349062
>You're giving anyone permission to take your code, close it, and make mass profit off it while you slave away for free.
That's a myth. The BSD license doesn't allow anyone to close your code. Read it closely. I just doesn't require anyone to distribute the source code, but one could take the Windows TCP stack, disassemble it and use it according to the terms of the BSD license.

You shouldn't be so opinionated about things you don't comprehend.

>>58348343
if I run conky as my new i3 status bar how do I get network applet to work?
? How do I connect to other wifi?

>>58356279
Sometimes I wonder if in all those pictures he is writing important GNU code, ricing his window manager or just shitposting on /g/.
If you get close to him, does he immediately close his laptop?

>>58356616
>writing important GNU code,
No
>ricing his window manager
No
>shitposting on /g/
No

>>58356616
>he hasn't given up on GNU
>he has the time/taste to rice a laptop
>he wastes time with all these inane comments

Hello. I am trying to run mpd on debian but when i am trying to start the mpd it gives me and error

 
Jan 06 19:08 : socket: Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Address already in us 

Can someone help me fix it thanks

could i run antergos xface on 1gb RAM?

>>58356732
>

Address already in us 

Well, stop using it

>>58356734
what do you plan on doing with it?

>>58355268
>>58355399
I just use
>mpv -loop=999
works perfectly, loops, can pause, rewind, change speed, etc..

Got myself into a bit of a bind. I'm still not sure what happened exactly a day later, but basically a bunch of my installed fonts show up really fucked up now. At first I thought it was just tewi, then xterm looked fine so I thought termite was the issue. After some experimentation, I found that tewi, terminus, and lemon all had the same issue in termite. Also, I have Tewi as my system font but transmission-gtk and other programs that would use said font are showing a font that doesn't even appear to be a monospace font. The actual monospace font called monospace appears to work fine, even in termite. I'm basically concluded that all the fonts I installed from packages suddenly broke, but I'm not sure why. I thought maybe it was from running fc-cache -fv, but later I remember I installed a new font or two before doing so, and at the end of a new font install, it runs some sort of fc-cache command. I had also been trying to setup Polybar all day, where tewi was not showing up when configured to.

How do I figure out what happened and start unfucking my fonts? I have tried reinstalling tewi and termite, but clearly the issue is not termite or _just_ tewi, it's a bunch of installed fonts.

>>58356761
>-loop=999
disgusting

>>58356149
No, it's quite decent distro if you don't need/want many preinstalled programs.

>>58356774
What does
>fc-match
or
>fc-match sans
give you?

>>58356732
Sure thing buddy.

The problem is caused cause mpd runs as a service

whaty you have to do is disable systemd services (and the socket) at startup so you can start it in user mode.

Do

systemctl mask mpd.service

and

systemctl mask mpd.socket

Both commands have to be run with root privileges.

After you've done that, just reboot. MPD will start normally. I encountered this problem as well.

>>58356732
>>58356732
Then simply add 'mpd' to the list of programs you autostart on X/DE/WM

>>58356833
>just reboot

systemd gentlemen.

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>>58356820
Pic related. This is interesting. Does it mean that when these fonts are not working it is actually using DejaVu Sans? I showed my brother what my terminal looked like with the problem, and he described it as "looking like a non-monospace font being forced to render in monospace". It's clearly rounded and such like a non-monospace font but some of the letters overlap and such.

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>>58356864
Of course he could just stop both units, but why complicate stuff.

Rebooting is THE most reliable method of making sure all changes are applied and anyone who works in the field will tell you that.

But go on tell us how hardcore you are because you manually restart every updated service and patch the kernel at the same time instead of taking 1 minute of your time for a reboot.

Tryhards.

>>58356884
DejaVu is always the culprit. I don't know what distros do when installing DejaVu that just makes that font so aggressive.

But yes, that's basically your problem. Unless you're specifying the exact font you want (you can test if you're getting the name right with fc-match "fontname") then most applications will probably just use the first available system default which in your case is DejaVu right now.

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>>58356916
I'm glad I have figured out this much. Thank you very much.

Now the issue is, why is it overriding fonts that were configured properly in the past? Even fc-match just keeps pulling up DejaVu now when searching the problematic fonts.

best torrent client for linux?

not valid answers:
>deluge
>qbit
>transmission

New thread: >>58356971

>>58356966
transmission

>>58356937
Yup, it's super aggressive like I said, and can sneak in when you install some packages.

Try something like:
>grep -rn /etc/fonts -e "Deja"
to get a list of all the fontconfig files using DejaVu. Don't just edit those files though, actually look up the preferred method of customizing your fontconfig for your distro.

>>58356833
>>58356860
Thanks anon can you help me with another problem i have set me music dir as ~/Music to both mpd and ncmpcpp config but when i am make a data update to ncmpcpp it doesn't shows anything

>>58357124
post your config

>>58356761
>999
use inf your fucking retard

[media.loop]
loop-file="inf"

[extension.gif]
profile="media.loop"

[extension.webm]
profile="media.loop"

>>58357124
>>58357154
use pastebin or something

>>58357019
I put a reply in the new thread if you'd be so kind as to continue assisting me there.

>>58357154
>>58357163
ncmpcpp : http://pastebin.com/6GmYY44H

mpd : http://pastebin.com/j30pZqyj

With compton installed mpv after i pause video and go to another screen browsing and then come back to watch again, it's fucking struggling to starts to playing, lagging, framedrop is constant and then okay.

>>58357208
mpd config looks fine.

Is it in your .config/mpd or /etc/?

Also do all the files mentioned in the config exist? database, playlist, etc.
If not, touch them

>>58357270
mpd is in .config

here is the files i think i have it all
(pick : http://imgur.com/a/jLH3M)

>>58356616
He's probably just in Emacs checking his mail. He is rarely even running an X session and he would never post on /g/ due to things like non-free javascript needed, in addition to thinking we are inane.

>>58356553
if you're using NetworkManager, you can handle that stuff with nmtui

>>58353294
>wanting to retrieve data from web servers is the same as forcibly having your private data extracted and sent to unknown parties