/spg/ - Smartphone General - CES 2017 Edition

whats the closest I can get to the redmi note 3 pro in a phone I can buy in europe?
and does anyone have the mi max how is it?

>>58332395
I am looking to replace my HTC One. Is the Pixel XL a decent idea or should I go with a Samsung?

should i update miui8? ive never updated and i always feel like updates deliberately slow down your phone too. at least i noticed that on every other android and idevice

>>58331409

anyone?

>>58332492
do you have a second battery? they tend to fail early. the wifi and shit is probably an indication that you need a new phone. don't buy a flagship. OP3 is a fine phone.

>before CES
>"Just wait until CES, they're going to launch the Blackberry Mercury, the phone we've been waiting for has finally arrived!"

>after CES
>"Just wait until MWC, they're going to launch the Blackberry Mercury, the phone we've been waiting for will finally arrive!"

>>58332445
posting from my mi max. it surprised me at first how big it was but after only a day my xperia z felt tiny by comparison. id definitely recommend it, amazing performance and a screen thats actually useable for stuff (seriously 5 inches was always pathetic for word documents, media, etc).

the only thing i dont like is the privacy agreement for all the xiaomi apps, so i just chucked them in a folder and never used them (gallery needs to access your contact list too lol).

beautiful for ebooks too.

any questions ill gladly respond

>>58332445
Look at huawei, they have stores in europe

>>58332395
What the fuck is the point of that keyboard? Redundant as hell at this point.

>>58332525
I was thinking of installing a custom rom on it, never had an android before but I like being able to do stuff like no ads, and other useful stuff can you do that with the installed rom you get with it?

this is going to be the best year for smartphones

>>58332576
My grandpa wants a smartphone but his hands shake too much to use an on-screen keyboard.

>>58332576
It's a gimmick for people who are still stuck in the past with "BBM". Blackberry has always been shit, they couldn't adapt to the market. They thought they were too big to fail.

>>58332598
There is a thing called, voice searching and typing. All old people use it

A physical keyboard won't help, but bigger buttons will. You guessed it, you can enlarge the buttons on a keyboard app but can't with a physical keyboard

>>58332593
havent flashed another rom onto it but you can if you wish. you need root access to block ads though so you dont even need to flash another rom

>>58332623
This, can confirm. My dad is 64 and uses voice chat even for little shit like "okay"

I feel bad for him when he starts speaking a long ass text then has to redo it because it fucked up or cut him off after he paused or said something wrong.

>>58332511
No extra battery. I bought the phone only a few months ago. Oh well. I'll get a OP3. Thanks.

>>58332623
No thanks. His shaking hands keep brushing against the screen and hitting all the buttons that he doesn't want to hit. A physical keyboard lets him input the letters he wants and ONLY the letters he wants.

Why are you trying to stop my grandpa from doing what's best for himself? You don't own us, you don't get to tell us what to do.

Just look at the horror story of >>58332649. Your way of life sounds miserable.

>>58332627
oh cool, yea I was thinking of getting the Mi Max instead because im home most of the time and I like watching videos and playing games on my phone in bed so it would be nice with a big screen.

>>58332661
So you want the physical keyboard meme to come back, with super small keys? Doesn't make sense, old people have more trouble with smaller keys than larger keys.

Also can you actually read what I'm trying to say?

Is the Moto X good? Any good ROMs for it?

>>58332686
>>58332661
theres this thing called usb otg, maybe get a mechanical keyboard and attach it to the phone my plebs

>>58332669
its amazing, i havent really bothered with my pc for the past few days after getting it

>>58332686
So you want to stop physical keyboards from coming back? You don't use them for yourself, so nobody else should be allowed to use them either without your permission? What's wrong with having choice?

The size of the keys isn't his problem. The problem is that accidentally brushing against them is accepted as input. With physical keys, a brush is not input because you have to push them forcefully. That's what he wants, an end to accidental input from shaking hands.

>>58332395
so what do we think of the new blackberry lads?
looks sweet to me but I still want a priv instead

>>58332714
what store did you buy from, also did you have to pay for customs?

I'm researching smartphones based on their audio quality (both external speakers and headphones) and the HTC 10 seems to have the highest ratings.
> Any anon has one and can confirm?
>LG v 20 is a bit better but bootloops

>>58332743
xiaomi dream mi on aliexpress. they marked it as value 70 (no currency) if that means anything to you about customs. i live in a country where customs only applies to stuff over $1000

>>58332743
Buy from topone or HKG on Ali, they have free EU shipping with no customs.

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>>58332598
Tell your grandpa to stop being a faggot

>>58332804
could you link me a product from top-one, their store is bugged out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUd7-0RO1bw

Is it true?

IF I FLASH CYANOGENMOD TO MY REDMI NOTE 3 PRO, WILL I STILL BE ABLE TO "FIND PHONE" WHEN I LOSE IT?

>>58332843
Yeah something wrong with their store atm

HKG got it
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Original-Xiaomi-Mi-Max-6-44-4850mAh-Mobile-Phone-Snapdragon-650-Hexa-Core-3GB-RAM-32GB/311331_32674366041.html

flosmall too with eu shipping protection

https://flosmall.com/collections/smart-phones/products/xiaomi-max?rfsn=204142.c104a&variant=19790339846

sellers shipping method for hkg.

>>58332395
anon in vegas here fuck ces its so damn hard too get in its not allowed to the public

how do i stop my phone opening youtube links through the yt app? i cant even disable yt either

Hey guys my Xperia Z3V is fucked, what's the best CDMA phone out right now?

needs
>SD slot
>good camera

Those are pretty much my only requirements, ill be buying it outright so ideally something I can find used on ebay for cheap.

What's the general consensus on the Huawei P9 Lite? It's fairly cheap and I'm wondering if it's any good in terms of overall quality.

>>58333030
any experience with Flosmall?

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I got my Mi5s and it has a vendor rom. Do I want to deal with this shit or should I just take it back and get a ZUK Z2?

>>58333441
how do you know it has a vendor rom?

>>58333386
They're legit.

Honorbuy ships from Europe too if you wanna get if quicker:
http://www.honorbuy.com/search?controller=search&orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=mi+max&submit_search=Search

>>58333211
Pixel, but since that doesn't have an SD card.....

>>58333040
That's because it's really just for shareholders and media

>>58333441
Flash the global rom, it takes 15 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBVBUnRrjY

>>58333333

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>>58333045
This desu

>>58333441
>>58333491
Note the video is for unlocked bootloaders. it it's locked do it via EDL:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/wiki/advanced/flashofficial

>in4 leddit

I wanted yotaphone 2 when it came out but it cost somewhat around 500€. Now that I found out it only costs 100 what am I in for if I buy it? Wouldn't qualcom 800 be too weak these days?
Is eink secondary display just a gimmick or is it somewhat useful?
Whats battery life like?

what is the lock unlock thing on xiaomi devices?

>>58333495
whats it under? cant find it with search

>>58332395
What chinkphone should I buy and where on-line?
>Italy
>Wind
>Good camera
>Max 5 or 5.5 inch
>Budget 200-250 €

>>58333479
Yeah I gotta have an SD. I download all my music and id rather have it on a card than spend 100+ extra on 128gb

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>mfw been using the blackberry priv since the day it was released
>mfw no problems, it does what i need it to, still looks brand new

>>58333629
Zuk Z2 Pro
Mi5s
Honor 8

Kimovil.com for shops.

Lads.
Should I buy ID2ME ID-1 for 99€?
The specs are wonderful compared to what I have now, but I am worried about this phone not getting any sort of android update since it's stuck at 5.1 but still better than what I have now which is 4.4

>>58333675

Also

>thank gods it is unlocked, and it has an SD card slot
>trip to Canada, China, Japan and various other countries
>needed to use their 4G and download HERE maps for all of North America and Asia. Like 15-20 gigs.

>>58332395
thoughts on ubuntu phone?

>>58333686
No.
Mi4c is $99 and miles better.

>>58333744
Where should I buy it from? I am worried with Taxes and extra transport fees, which would increase the price by at least 30% more.

anyone got a voucher for honorbuy? first purchase from there

>>58333557
apps > configure apps

>>58332576
Tactile feedback. I prefer a physical keyboard personally. It's a shame I won't ever get one again until this faggot culture decides that a physical keyboard will be chic in a few more years.

>>58333726
Android is already open, stable and snappy enough. We don't need another OS with no Apps.

>>58333755
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/No-Waiting-11-11-Original-Xiaomi-Mi4c-Mobile-Phone-4G-LTE-Snapdragon808-Hexa-Core-5-0/311331_32521874724.html

Select "Seller's Shipping Method" to avoid customs fees.

>>58333788
>No tracking info
>Pay another 17$
>"it costs just 99$"

Now I am worried and scared to throw my money.

>>58332773
the v20 does not bootloop

>>58333817
Yeah, but it doesn't NOT boot loop, either

>>58332395
>Capacitive buttons

FUUUUUUCCKKKKKKKKKKK


When will this meme die?

Literally no-one uses that shit, even chink shit companies like WHAAAWEEE and samshit have switched to soft keys


It's even worse on a phone with a fucking hard keyboard, you could cut those shitty keys and bezel off and the thing would be a bit more manageable in the hand.

>>58333817
yet.

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I know you guys aren't huge on touchjizz, but all I want is a nice camera, smooth operation and an SD slot. Is this a good price? Anyone seen better for A grade?

>>58334278
You sure you aren't gonna get scammed and get a shitty knockoff?

I'm in the United States.

I have a TAG mobile SIM (mine seems to use T-mobile network) with which I do NOT plan on using data.

And I have a Verizon SIM from a tablet.

As far as features go I'm not picky I guess. OTG cable capability would be nice, if that is even an actual thing.

I'd like to spend between $150 and $250, but whatever.

Size of the phone doesn't really matter.

Is the BB Mercury ... dare I say it... the Thinkpad of smartphones?

I fucking want one, NOW.

I need a phone to replace my OnePlus One

>Country
USA

>Network
T-Mobile (so need all T-Mob bands)

>Features
Mostly want a good camera and good battery life

>Budget
$400

>Size
5-6"

Any recommendations?

>>58332696
Check XDA for the answer. Usually the G line has the best ROM support.

>>58334470
As long as you get something that's Qualcomm and is over $100, it should have otg

Moto G4 seems to be the recent recommendations

Also try looking into older mid range devices and second hands


>>58334523
Op3, or op3t for muh 10% extra speed for $50

>>58332453
HTC 10

Best root smartphone?

One that's really friendly to tinkering and hacking. Plus, custom ROMs. Seems like OnePlus.

>>58332773
Audio on HTC 10 is amazing

What's a good $120 phone? A friends says Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro but I don't trust him.

>>58334594
smart friend

>>58334594
don't trust him

>>58334594
don't trust him

OnePlus 3 or Axon 7? Any other better alternatives in that same price range?

>>58334594
Flagship phone from 2014

>>58334594
I saw a Doogee with MT6735 for $119. It's a good bargain, right?

>>58334671
>>58334594
No you retard it's shit.
get the RN3P nothing comes close.

>>58334594
>don't trust him
don't trust him

>>58332395
Is there a way to get Zuk z2 in europe for the same price that is on gearbest/banggood/etc (around 170€)? In my country theres a 22% import tax and thats quite a lot

>>58334626
>>58334601
>>58334631
>>58334705
Kill yourself, dumbfuck.

>>58334728
That's dumbfucks you dumbfuck

>>58334728
dumbfucker

>>58333681
Thanks, but I heard that kimovil is not very safe, is it true?

>>58334840
It's not a shop it just gives you list of shops with cheapest price. that's usually a store on Ali or gearbest.
Also Moto G4+ if you wanna keep it stock. find a local shop Italy a big country.

FUCK MAN
The mercury looks okay, but honestly the keyboard looks really out of place.
It seems like they tacked it on without thinking about hand space.
RIP in peace BB -- i'll always love you.

Any recommendations for upgrades from my BB Passport?

>>58334278
That looks like a fucking scam.

>>58334690
lol no

The Doogee has dual back cameras, better than the Redmi can ever offer.
It has 2GB and 16Gb same as Redmi Note 3 Pro

>>58334903
>MT6735 vs. SD650
Drink bleach, cumstain.

Whats a good rom for samsung galaxy note 3? i used to run cyanogen, but then installed phronesis because cm was getting old and I heard cm was dead. It's a very buggy rom and I want to try something else

>>58334883
FFS man, passport isn't even that old, why do you need to upgrade?

>>58334562
Thank you anon

>>58334705
What if it is a 'Her'?

>>58334983
poo in her

>>58334920
You don't need 8 cores, sometimes 4 cores is enough. And the superior dual back cameras push it past the Redmi in terms of bang per buck

>>58335013
The only upside you're giving is the fucking gimmicky dual cameras.

>>58334983
Don't think it matters. A hole is a hole.

>>58335066
>>58335077
reported for getting dubs twice

>review

Well, ok.

I have a OnePlus 3. Spent $525 Monopoly money (read: Canadian) on this thing.
Screen: good, not the best. Compared it to the iPhone 6s and Galaxy S7 edge. Better than the iPhone, but the s7 edge is on another planet. All in all, good enough for the price.

Performance: insane. Like really freaking good. Got the Nougat update, and it's been really smooth. Not ugly anymore either because there's a white theme. Buttery smooth too. Did notice some hiccups since the update though. Nothing even close to me not recommending it.

Battery: fair. Not great. The s7 edge does better. I get about a day of moderate use out of it. Like 4.5-5 hours sot. Though new software so it might need time to settle down.
Dash charging makes this pretty much a non issue though. It's fast.

Build: great. I'd say on par with the iPhone's.

Sound: it gets loud and now has a built in equalizer. One thing though, and this is Android wide, but the fucking volume slider does not have enough steps in it. Apple has like 30, so you can get the perfect volume. Even fucking Microsoft does this with Windows. With Android, it's either too loud or not loud enough. impossible to hit the sweet spot with the volume buttons.

>>58335187
Give a score out of 10, I aint reading your shit

Do you guys discuss apps here?

What's the best office app? Specifically for . Docx

Also what about for note taking that's also open source? Cheers.

>>58334278
That's a crazy good price. Almost too good to be true. I'd be suspicious tbhfam.
The S7 edge is a fucking awesome phone.

>>58334543
Try moto g. Afaik it gets a lot of love from community. Mot g4 plus is supposed to be really good. Play is the cheap version

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>>58335187
>I have a OnePlus 3
>Screen: good
Aha. stopped reading there buddy.

Anyone know of any good ios news apps?
BBC is the only one I've found to be decent, but they post some complete bullshit every now and then so their credibility is waining for me.

>>58335209
... MS Office? jej.

>>58335207
7.5/10

>>58335239
It is good. It's not great or the best, but is more than good enough at the price. Can it better? Fuck yeah. Does absolutely need to be? No, because it's bright enough to be visible in daylight, vivid AF (thanks based AMOLED). If you're coming from a Samsung, then yeah, you're gonna be crazy disappointed. Like this screen isn't even half as good as the S7. You do notice the pixels. But not enough that I would say it's a deterrent. Besides, it's fucking $525.

>>58335239
Also, AMOLED > LCD Everytime

Wait for MWC or buy OP3T now?

>>58334671
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Doogee-F7-Mobile-Phone-5-5-Inch-1920x1080-FHD-Mtk6797-Deca-Core-Android-6-0-3GB/712948_32734553782.html

Better than Redmi Note 3 Pro for sure.

Any reason not to get Xperia C4? How is the battery life? It looks pretty nice on paper and It's on sale in local store

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>>58332606
You young 'uns won't remember, but we used to be able to send messages from inside our pockets or while driving without looking at the screen. Then the iPhone came along and ruined that.

Pic related, other than web browsing phones haven't really got better than the N95, just more fragile and with worse battery life.

>>58335288
AMOLED is the best, period. One you go (true) black, you won't go back.

>>58335459
You're overrating AMOLED on phones, it is better, but not impactful enough to warrant buying/not buying a phone.
Good LCD works just fine for your phone, you're not gonna films on your phones anyway.

Between Huawei P9 Lite (2GB RAM), Lenovo K6 Note, Honor 7 Lite, and Alcatel Idol 4 which is the best choice?
I selected those smartphones from my price range (~190USD) and requirements (1080p screen, high PPI, 3GB RAM, recent OS + updates, LTE 800, 1800, 2600).

Now, I know for sure that P9lite will get Nougat, but what about the rest of these phones? Is there a confirmed source for all OS upgrades where I can check it? I use my phones for around 2 years so system updates are quite important to me.

Do you guys have any other propositions? Is there anything announced on CES or rumoured for Q1 that I should wait for?

>>58333045
Use Firefox Mobile, by default it won't try to point to the app.

>>58335594
i do actually, its when i open links in clover

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For someone who used a Nexus 4 since its launch until last week, is there anything on the market that is similar in terms of price, official software support and third party support?

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>>58335187
Root, install exposed and Gravitybox to get more volume steps

>>58335553

720p AMOLED > 1080p IPS/lcd

>>58335610
I just tested a fix myself, see if this helps:

Clear the "open links" sort of defaults for the YouTube app in your app settings.

Then clover will ask what browser/app to use for YouTube links

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>>58335346
it's not, that SoC has issues that prevents the A72 cores from functioning much and a weaker GPU, the same SoC is in the redmi note 4 and it's a slower device than the redmi note 3 pro because it uses mediatek.

I've purchased 3 doogee phones (X5, X5S, X5 MAX) and 5 xiaomi phones (2x RN3P, R3S, 2x Mi4C), doogee's quality doesn't compare to xiaomi at all.

There is no OS consistency at all with doogee. all the phones I have are very different, one came with an awesome icon pack one came with a disgusting icon pack, some came with malware preinstalled and were completely unrootable. The utilities and information out there for flashing mediatek devices even to just the stock ROM to remove the malware on the system partition is complete SHIT.

Everything is super easy on xiaomi for rooting and flashing, it's all very organized. At least if I buy a xiaomi phone I know exactly how to root and flash whatever I want because it's the same across the line for all of them, and because xiaomi updates like 30 devices in MIUI updates every device has a new version of the OS. Even old devices on kitkat get MIUI8 and look like the new nougat devices.

>>58335770
oh also, security updates with the latest android security patch

even 3 year old xiaomi phones get android security updates monthly

>>58335756
That depends very much on screen size 5"+ is shit with less than 1080p, you just can't get away from the low pixel density.

>>58335619
Well if you still want to stick with the Nexus line, you could go with the (yes slightly older) 5X or 6P, which still is currently supported by Google, and you should be alright with ROM support past the time that Google stops pushing updates to them. Just hope you don't get any with bootloop issues.

>>58335770
>Everything is super easy on xiaomi for rooting and flashing,

You don't need to root or flash, most people are ok with the phone when they receive it. Doogee is cheap and better as is. No need to trouble yourself with flashing and stuff.

I got an HTC 10 incoming tomorrow, how badly did I mess up?

>>58335781
Security Patches aren't really that important in real life. I don't know someone who personally needed those patches.

>>58334594
Uhans H5000

>>58335875
no, you missed what I said in my post

I -NEEDED- to root OR flash because of malware in the rom that came from gearbest. Without it the phone was nearly unusable because it kept showing full screen advertisements that were extremely confusing for anyone using it (60x20 pixel chinese banners scaled up to like 720p type of thing).

I knew where the malware was, but it was on the system partition so I needed root to remove it or disable it. I tried to root it for 2 hours with no go.

I ended up fixing it by downloading the MTK flashing tools and the stock doogee rom (which, was fucking hard to find since doogee's site is shit), and the mediatek utilities themselves are so archiac in comparison to the utilities you use on qualcomm devices, that it was confusing getting the rom flashed, it wasted a lot of time.

Why are some people so defensive about owning a Note 7?

>>58335956
What I gathered from it was that it was a damn good phone, except it obviously met an untimely end. Dunno why people would be defending it exploding though

>>58332576

Touchscreen keyboards are and always will be inferior to a physical keyboard. Even a bad physical keyboard.

Should I buy huawei honor 5x for roughly 120$?

Why is no one recommending the OnePlus X? It's the best phone you can get for $200 right? I'm looking to replace my old Moto g but I don't want anything bigger than 5 inches or more than $200.

>>58336128
because it's over a year old and uses the old housefire 801 SoC, it's worse than some $100 phones available like the mi4c

Z5 compact or Z3 compact?

>>58336141
I dont know what that housefire thing is, what phone compares to it then? I love the size of my Moto G and I really don't want anything bigger than 5".

>>58336128
Because both Google and Qualcomm are Jews and refuse to update it. Qualcomm won't release updated drivers for Nougat for the 801, and Google won't allow Nougat to run on said soc without those drivers, even though Sony has shown it can run perfectly.

>>58336174
A used S6 is around 5 inches (5.1 iirc) and because
>Almost no bezels
It's really easy to use one handed.

Warranty couldn't replace my G4 and offered me a choice between Galaxy A9, Xperia X and Nexus 5X.

I've not heard a thing about the first two, but they are newer, any thoughts on which would be best?

I'm a college student with a Samsung Galaxy S4, should I get the HTC 10, Samsung S7, Google Pixel, or wait?

I care about display and lag, camera. I listen to music a lot but I think that is dependent on my headphones and not the phone itself, I don't care about external audio. I write emails and sometimes do a lot of reading on my phone through the internet like on websites (not ebooks).

Whatever I pick I'm going to be using it for a decent amount of time.

>>58336242
S7 or pixel. Simply comes down to what features you want.

Also, no lie, but bitches love randomly talking about the edge screens on those S7s with curved displays. So if you want to spend big, go for that. Otherwise, just see what feature you want. Can't go wrong with either desu

My Nexus 5X bootlooped, not gonna bother waiting for my repair from LG.

I have $400, what would be a good replacement/upgrade?

>>58336269
Oneplus 3(T)

>>58336262
Appreciate your perspective, anon. I think I'll narrow it to the S7 or Pixel and do some research later today.

>>58336227
Out of the three A9 has the best specs but at 6" I might be too big for you, in which case I'd take the Xperia X. You had the G4 so you should already know to avoid LG

What are the chances of the mercury being rootable? If it is I think it will be easily be my next phone.

>>58336341
I'd consider the S7 edge over the normal S7 for the bigger screen and larger battery

>>58336372

Yeah, 6" has been more of a detractor even with its nice specs from doing a comparison of all three.

I'm torn on the 5X since I hear good things and the G4 outside of the boot loop was not a bad phone at all for me personally, granted I've heard horror stories.

>>58335389
Really, not a single flaw?

>>58336383
They're going for secure and you can't have secure with a rootable phone - so zero chance. It's a non-starter unless they promise 36month support.

>>58336269
OP3T probably best in that range. They're still not really in stock though in many regions.

>>58336393
The edge can be annoying to use though, so make sure you try it out in store for a reasonable amount of time.

>>58336553
>C4
It might blow up

Anyone here have the Honor 8?

How is it? Is it worth it around the $320 price range?

>>58332453
You should never go with Samsung

>>58336616
Pay an additional $80 and get a OP3T to last you 5 years+ and to not deal with shitty EMUI

I just got a new phone so this thread is not relevant to my interests.

>>58336742
Even then you gave us a bump
Good Boy!!!!

>>58336742
This thread isn't just for buying advice but everything smartphone related

>>58336689
EMUI isnt the worst. Has some features that even stock android has been lacking. Touchjizz is the worst hands down

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Bought a Moto G4 Plus, upgrading from a Lumia 520. Seems pretty good so far, loving the cameras.

couple questions:
what should I be doing to prevent theft/track the phone if I lose it or it gets stolen? is Cerberus still the to-go app? do I need to root it to get whatever app to survive wipes?

how do I go about ricing it? I'm aiming toward pic related as a result, something minimal

are the wiki's app recommendations up to date? all the icons are old as shit, I can't even find the 4chan readers on the appstore. what's the best one currently?

>>58336832
Nah. Both of them are horrendous and I don't see why anyone would spend more than $200 to get a device with shit software that's trying so hard to be iOS. Xiaomi is permitted because most of their devices are under $200, so it's reasonable to get them, and then flash an acceptable rom.

What's a good smartphone with lots of ram and good read/write speeds on its internal storage for fast app opening and loading?

Is there's a thing where you replace your phones internal storage with faster one? kind of like swapping your HDD for an SSD.

Will using a U3 rated micro SD card make a difference on android?

>>58336876
I'm thinking of getting a moto G4 plus. Would you recommend it? Are there any problems with it?

>>58336935
I think the last mass testing was done in like early 2015 so we don't have recent results.
Doubt it.
All SD cards are abysmal in Android. They will fuck up/slow down the system. Perhaps not to a noticeable degree depending on quality of card, but Android just doesn't play nice with it.
Overall, I wouldn't get attached to any of that shit until UFS hits the market realistically.

>>58336880
That's some retarded logic, but okay.

Mi Mix is under 200 dollars boiz. Pick them up whilst they hot. d:^)

>>58337093
It's not really retarded logic. Xiaomi is permitted when their devices are under $200. Mi Mix isn't under $200 therefore it's not permitted.

Was that so hard sweetie?

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>>58336939
It's my very first android phone, picked it up because I really like the Moto E2 I got my mom.

My first impressions are generally positive, the hardware is nice and the software is moto's usual low-bloat 'stock' android, plenty responsive and smooth even with 1080p playback. It feels a little phablet-y, thin with a big camera bump. The case I bought along with it (Incipio octane, one of two lenovo has on their website as a 'recommended' case) solves the camera bump issue, gives it a nice grip, and a nice thickness for holding it with both hands.

The screen is gorgeous, the cameras are very good, and the fingerprint reader is surprisingly pretty handy and not as much of a meme as I expected. It's big (5.5 inch screen, not much bezel) but comfortable to hold, I can see myself getting used to it.

My only complaints with it are that it doesn't have some of the Moto G3's nicest features (big stereo speakers, full water resistance, curved back with no camera bump) but it's a solid phone, definitely one of the best in it's price range. I recommend you go to a shop and hold one (g4 or g4 plus) in your hands, get a feel for the size and weight and see if it's something you'll be happy with, or if you'd rather go for something smaller like the g3 (pic related)

>>58333524
i have it, running 5.1, performance are pretty good, software is a little buggy, camera is decent, battery is 3h of screen.
Second screen is pretty much useless unless you read ebooks, but if you use it as a primary screen (mirroring), the battery will drain much slower, so it's fine if you use messaging apps a lot.
Russian users are currently beta testing Marshmallow, hopefully it will fix all the current bugs
For 100€ is pretty much the best phone you can buy at the moment

Redmi Pro, deca core with 3gb RAM 64GB ROM, microSD, and USC-C. 220 bucks

Is this a good phone for a great price or am I a retarded?

Current phone: Zenfone 2 x86


http://www.dxsoul.com/product/xiaomi-redmi-pro-5-5-deca-core-4g-phone-w-3gb-ram-64gb-rom-silver-901443403

yo can any Australians weight in on network providers? im thinking of going with vaya or amaysim. vayas $11/m (132) upfront deal seems temping for 1gb data and unlimited calls and text but at the same time ive heard bad things about them even though they were aquired by amaysim so apparently they're getting better.

what do you think?

>>58337123
Thanks for the little review anon. I'll take your advice and see what the phone feels like. Was it difficult to get used to the size difference? Like in the picture, I've got a broken moto g3 and the g4 plus seems like the next evolution but the size is a small concern.

>>58335882
It's the best overall phone of the year.

Not bad unless it hurt you financially,then you should have bought a OP3/T.

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>>58337236
I'm coming from an even smaller phone (pic related) and I was way too used to thumbing through notifications and doing 90% of my browsing one-handed. Quickly getting used to the new one, though it does feel a bit too thin without the case (like a tablet, really). Good luck on your buy, anon.

Want to update to latest snapshot on cyanogenmod… they shutdown their website. Piece of shit lagdroid how do i get the rom? Is there a mirror link somewhere?

>>58337502
Their website isn't actually 'shut down'. You can still download snapshots and nightlies(new ones wont be coming though). Just give the website time, it'll give you some errors every once in a while.

>>58337385

Big meme, anon.
Right now I own Lumia 635 so your post makes me feel like transitioning from a small phone to 15cm monster won't be so bad.
Also - which G4+ do you have? I'm asking because only 2/16 is in my price range.

>>58337585
16.5 cm here it does take time and keyboards both better and worse

>>58332395
>Rabid fanboy consumerism surrounding government spying devices you have to pay for

Apple doesn't do CES announcements so nothing important is going to be revealed this week.

Fucking sheep

>>58336576
>you can't have secure with a rootable phone
Or just lock down the preinstalled rom and force you to unlock the bootloader and wipe everything to install a custom rooted rom like HTC does.

>doogee f7 is $126 in ali
>shop gives $5 discount coupon for purchase of $99 up

Why aren't you guys being logical and buying the next meme phone?

did xiaomi already announce something?

>>58338656
nvm, livestream begins in 2h or so.

>>58335404
this.
however it makes you think why nobody makes a new phone with keys then. it's not like it is forbidden

>>58336242
Depends on how much you wanna spend and if you want to be able to root.

I own an s7 myself but would go for htc10 if you listen to music a lot. Headphones matter but so does the dac and htc has the best dac.

If you have the money to go pixel you might as well wait for the new flagships

>>58336242
Also if you are going to use it as long as your s4 (3-4 generations since s8 is right around the corner) and value OS updates, s7 can't be rooted unless you dont mind voiding your warranty.

Is iphone 5s a nokia 3310 of smartphones?

I mean is it still worth getting or should I go with a Samsung a5 2016 for example?

Don't need any specs, updates, games, cameras or anything, just a reliable smartphone that does the job.

>>58336393

I sure hope you never drop it then, those screens are super expensive and hard to replace. The only reason id consider an edge is if i got a good deal. The added battery is nice tho.

>>58338815
3310 of smartphones doesn't exsist yet. 3310 was good because it had everything and was durable as fuck. you could seriously use it as a hammer. only way those 2 are related is the inane amount of cases you can choose from.

speaking of which what happened to the custom phone case biz? cant get cool covers from anything but iphones

>>58333524
>>58337137
I got it when it was on sale, almost instant regret. The phone is extremely slippery, there are no good cases to add grip, it is impossible to use one handed, the eink screen is a gimmick. My iphone 5c had a better battery life than this thing does, thinking about putting it on ebay in a few weeks.

Is the mi5s an upgrade from the op2? I love my op2 and I am tempted to get the 3T, but more and more Normies in my country are getting their hands on them and ruining the experience.

can someone explain to me why Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 are still $100? theyre old as fuxk unpopular and absolute garbage.

>>58333524
>>58337137
Plus the headphone jack problem, you can't use just any headphones on this thing because they keep getting connected and disconnected. It is a very wide spread problem on yotaphone 2

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>>58332395
What is the best phone to use for 10 yrs. I want a phone that runs fast and isn't too expensive. Something from 450 to 750 dollars.

>>58332395
That blackberry looks tight. Too bad it will inevitably be overpriced so nobody will buy it and the brand will gain no additional traction.

>>58339170
>10 years
ultrakek

>>58339209
Ok 5 years but with good build quality because it's for some old people to comunicate and to use basic apps.

>>58333871
I like the capacitive buttons because its not a row of obnoxious wasted pixels at the bottom of my screen. Also some apps will hide them and then lock up, leaving you stuck on whatever app just crashed.
And why is /g/ against physical keys? They're so much better than on-screen keyboards, you can actually effectively type without looking at the screen.

>>58339170
>What is the best phone to use for 10 yrs
whichever nokia/motorola dumbphone fits your aesthetic best

>>58339300
Whatsapp is needed.

>>58339170
>>58339228
the iphones are the only devices remotely capable of going that long and being suitable for old people
too bad it's out of your price range

>>58336876
how do you get those status bar icons?

>>58339244
Don't waste your time with the shitposter pham.

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>>58339199
They deserve to die.
>>58325444
Oneplus learned with the 2 that you can't just put the best specs in a phone and expect it to be an instant success, you also have to care about the software experience.

ZTE still has to learn that lesson.

>>58339331
S40 nokia phone then, the Asha line with physical keyboards is very good. really dependable phones

>>58339347
i'm wondering the same, found the image on a homescreen thread some time ago, and the only tutorials i've found involve rom-level hacking

>>58339551
maybe it's some xposed module.

>tfw want to buy a cheap smartphone for work but want to be able to shitpost on break/lunch

d-does anyone do unlimited web/text/call anymore?

>>58339540
Would it be worth to buy a moto g3 instead of a g4 play considering the G3 has a better camera. I can find it for around $110 which is same price range as Redmi 3S or 4 Pro, I really would prefer stock android though.

I'm looking for an Android music player that has these characteristics:

>FOSS
>album/artist AND folder views
>decently sized lockscreen buttons
>"add to queue" option
>true gapless playback

Any recommendations?

>>58339907
pioneer android hifi player, about 399 and is a fucking tank

>>58339907
>foss
you likely use proprietary shit on your android anyway and the terms floss or software libre.

I just finished rooting my nexus using Nexus root toolkit and now I'm trying to flash a ROM. Would I still need to find the vendor image to flash onto before flashing the ROM (pure nexus). Can I flash the kernel afterwards along with the google apps or can I do it at the same time.

>>58340085
OK

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Xiaomi is announcing some shit

Best xperia phone to buy used? Current line up is shit and I'm too poor anyway.

>>58340445
they are just playing ads right now. Get on with it goddamnit

>>58340445
http://www.mi.com/en/events/ces2017-live/

http://www.mi.com/en/events/ces2017-live/

http://www.mi.com/en/events/ces2017-live/

>>58340657
youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6HjJqA4dxw

>>58340622
How long until it actually starts?

>>58340740
no fucking idea.

>>58332598
There are old T9 keyboards (numpad style) on android market, maybe this will help your grandpa?

>>58340740
it's starting

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white mi mix incoming

>>58341024
mi mix is like iron man 1
it should enjoy its fame as it lasts, because in few months it will be all over when batman dark night comes out

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>>58341054
their presentation is really awkward

Is this their first time on CES?

>>58341171
Didn't they say that at the start? Either way I thought it was kind of cute.

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Mi TV4 announced
very thin and frameless

I can see it look good as wall mounted, but otherwise meh

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>>58341346

>>58341451
>Diaomonds

was pretty unprofessional and yet very entertaining

Did they say something about the mi5c?

>>58341628
no, only about their iot botnet and the botnet tv.

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>>58341628
I was hoping for that as well, but sadly nothing

So /g/, I accidentally my xperia z3 and now I'm on the lookout for a smartphone that has a fingerprint scanner and is good enough for a good browsing experience without hiccups and things crashing because the phone is shit, but I don't wanna overspend on these turds anymore. What do you recommend?

What is the best phone I can get for around £300? I don't mind chink phones.

>>58336876
> I can't even find the 4chan readers on the appstore. what's the best one currently?
https://floens.github.io/Clover/

>>58341910
Scrap what I said. I need something for under £300, most I can go is £320.

Is there a better phone out right now than the S7 Edge?

Not sure what to get

>>58337173
>mediakek
>no global rom
It's shit.

i want to remap my Xperia z5c camera button to toggle from portrait to landscape and back. NOT to toggle from portrait to "auto-rotate". To directly rotate and make it the ONLY thing that rotates my screen.

Do I have to root the phone to this?

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So i'm thinking of getting this phone because I want that iphone se but hate iOS. Problem is: i dunno if this phone is real. It's not even listed on the Blu site and looks different from site to site. Think it's real?

>blackberry is still trying

jesus christ

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>>58334438
>>58334898
>>58335211
The seller has good feedback, and ebay buyer protection is usually a safe bet. There is this seller too though, with 98% instead of 96% and it comes with a charger (which doesnt really matter desu, I have plenty)

Not sure which to try tho

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I broke my Moto g (2nd gen) recently and am thinking of buying a new phone.
> country
Netherlands
> carrier
Hollandsnieuwe (Vodafone network)
> budget
No more than 200 euro

I currently doubting between 3 options
- Getting a new Moto g (I liked it)
- Getting a Chinkphone, probably a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 (good specs for low price, but doubting the quality. Also MIUI and other chinese bloatware are making me doubt this choice, so how is ROM availability?)
- Getting a old refurbished Samsung phone with Replicant availabillity

So is there an Anon willing to shine light on these questions I'm having and help me make a choice.

>>58342999
Moto G4+
see
>>58337123

I want to root my Galaxy S4 i9500 because touchjizz is so fucking slow and retarded, but there is so much info out there that it's hard to settle on any one method or package. Can someone spoon feed me please?

>>58342877
what is with this phenomenon customers have with brands and whether or not they're competing
i just don't understand what makes people go "AW YEAH I HOPE iPHONES DIE"
or "BLACKBERRY JUST DIE"
i just dont get it, seems like such a retarded view

>>58342838
india only it looks like. still weird theres not ONE review anywhere for it...

Is the honor 5X a good phone, I'm thinking about switching from my old iphone 5c?

>>58343379
No. but the Honor 6x is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-DcMBjs6LU

How is the OnePlus 3 compared to the Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro?

Please recommend me a phone which has these:

- budget 100 to 200€
- SD card slot
- custom ROMS, unlocked bootloader, not mediatek/exynos trash
- FullHD screen
- not a chinkphone that has to be imported

>>58343440
Same specs but stock Android so it's better.

What do you guys think of the Xiaomi Note 4 with the Snapdragon 625?

I have an iPhone but am thinking of getting one of these just for fun.

>>58343590
Or is the Mediatek X20 better?

>>58343512
Moto G4/G4 plus

>>58343590
>Xiaomi Note 4 with the snapdragon 625
Doesn't exist. Do you mean the Redmi 4 Pro?

Are the iphone and xperia compacts seriously the only high end smartphones that one can comfortably use with one hand and without doing hand gymnastics? Why the fuck is every smartphone nowadays 6 inches or so? It's a fucking phone. What's next, ultrawide phones? Phones with 3 screens?

I've been using an ASUS zenfone 2 recently and I'm getting dissappointed with the lack of consistent updates.

Any good phones that are similar that'll:
Work with a t-mobile prepaid simcard
has a significant data storage atleast 32gb but 64gb pref
and has the ability to be rooted?

Budget is sitting around $300-350

>>58343702
You can look for phones with one-hand modes. It's kind of comfy.

>>58343738
Nah, I really don't care about giant screens anymore. I'm coming from an xperia z3 and while I liked the phone it's just a phone in the end of the day. I'm just gonna use it for messages, light browsing, occasional 4chan, photos and whatnot, which I certainly don't need a giant unwieldly screen for, so I'm going for phones that can fit perfectly on one hand without gimmicks involved. So far it seems only the iphone and z5/x compact are up to the task but I don't like ios and I can't find the xperias anywhere.

>>58342838

Don't buy that crap, it's practically Phone: The Lag. Look at these guts, no way it can handle android 6.0

What are /g/ approved chinkphones that have Cyanogenmod compatibility? Preferably have USB Type-C.

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hey guys
so i just rooted my s7 edge, g935t through tmobile i got about a week ago. i dont plan on doing any custom rom, just gonna wait for samsung to deliver 7.1.1 and see what i wanna do from there.

anyway, the last time i rooted a phone was the original htc one (m7), and while the process was mostly the same, weird stuff happened this time around.

firstly, i have this new icon on my notification bar, as shown in the image. lol what is it?
secondly, somehow whenever i turn off wifi or restart the phone, it doesnt remember my wifi settings/password. whats up with that? ill have to enter it every time now?
and thirdly i have this lag/heat problem the xda thread even talked about, but then he talks about fixing it by doing all this pd8 stuff and im just like wtf man

things seem so much better/easier back then. whats going on?

>>58343687
O shit ye, what is the difference between the two?

>>58344013
>trying to do anything custom on a galaxy device post-knox initiation
LMAO

>>58344089

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8263&idPhone2=8291

Redmi 4 Prime has a 5" screen, Note has a 5.5" screen, but CPU in Note is a pile of crap. Neither have global ROM.

>>58344013
knox, youre fucked mane and now the warrany is no longer valid, thats why you never root normalfag shitphones, only motorolas, htcs and xiaomis

Guys!! Is the mi4 worth getting in 2017???

>>58344241
Get the mi4c instead

>>58344170
>>58344221
ye, seems to have been a bad idea. i dont really care about phones enough to keep up with them to know this stuff. goddamn jews.

guess ill just factory reset. dont care if the warranty is fucked really.

>>58344274
Youll still be rooted or with the bootloader unllocked, your only choice now is flashing the stock rom back and hoping knox re locks itself

Zuk Z2 White is on sale at BG for US 165 with coupon: zukz2new
http://www.banggood.com/Lenovo-ZUK-Z2-5_0-inch-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Snapdragon-820-2_15GHz-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1064299.html

>>58344304
>flashing the stock rom
yeah thats what i meant basically.
how important is knox relocking itself? im just trying to avoid the issues i described, not worried about the warranty. does knox really need to fix itself in order for my wifi to start remembering passwords again, and for my device to stop lagging?

>>58344370
its unrelated to your wifi issues if thats what youre asking, you probably fucked up somewhere else because rooting only trips the knox code which prevents you from using the nfc for things like android pay and also no ota updates, at this point i would go for a custom rom honestly

So what do you incoherent factory reject dildos automate on your phones? I need some ideas, so far I only automate wallpapers for a specific usage (no random wallpaper of the day app fuck that shit).

>>58344310
>white phones

Can you guys recommend me a verizon phone i can get a 2 yr plan on? thanks brehs

>>58344516
i know it seems impossible that it could fuck that stuff up, but tons of other people are reporting the same problem(s)(including wifi), and apparently the fix is to flash some other firmware, with varying results based on who knows what. but thats where it gets confusing because everyone talks about flashing 10 million different firmwares that work for them, and im just sitting here like, man this is retarded

i only did this to get adaway because ads have gotten particularly worse over time too. i didnt expect all this shit, and the people dont warn of problems until after the guide to root. what a sham.

How much better is the Moto Z compared to the Moto X? Best Buy has the 64GB version for $250 outright.

>>58344645
iPhone 6s+

>>58344708

To clarify, Best Buy has the Moto X for $250, not the Moto Z.

What part of an iphone would you have to replace to remove the passcode lock?

> inb4 jamal jokes

>>58344875
GIVE

IT

BACK

>>58344708
Id take the Moto Z Play over either of those

>>58344926

What's the difference between the Z Play and the one in the OP?

I don't understand the obsession for custom ROMS, sure they give you neat features but they're also buggy as fuck because of pajeetcodes

I finally upgraded from my iphone 5s to an HTC 10. It arrived today so I haven't had much time to play around with it but there are a few things that I don't like about it. It is my first time using an android phone so please tell if any of these things can be fixed in the settings etc.

-The screen. It doesn't always register that I'm touching the screen if I touch it too lightly or with he side of my thumb. Glove mode didn't seem to increase the sensitivity. I've never had a problem with this on my 5s. Scrolling also sucks. It's very slow and takes a while for me to go from the top to bottom of a web page and because the screen isn't very responsive, the scrolling speed is very inconsistent despite swiping my finger at relatively similar speed and distance..this makes it feel very laggy. As far as the colors go, I could only tell that the white on the HTC 10 isn't nearly as white as my 5s, either that or the brightness doesn't go up as high.

-This may be a problem with chrome but watching videos on chrome (haven't tested with youtube) is an awful experience. Going into and out of fullscreen mode is clunky and worst of all, all videos are choppy and feel the same as a game playing at 30fps..the same videos on my 5s are smooth+lag free. It's also kinda worth mentioning that any video not 720p or higher looks like complete shit but that should be obvious.

Download speeds are bad too. I get a 42 Mbps on the Internet Speed Test while my iphone gets 52. It's noticeable too. I don't know why this is because I'm beside my router which is capable of 802.11/ac and I have 300 down which I do get on my computer.

And for the little things. I hate that I have to swipe down twice to get to the functions/features like the flashlight. Zooming in on the photos app is difficult to do using both thumbs. I have small hands so its tedious reaching across my phone to access my tabs on chrome. Hearthstone is laggy and loading times are slow!

sry for long autistic post

>>58332395
anyone knows an alternative to moto x play?

>>58344997
>using a custom rom that only (one) guy works on
ew

>spg doesn't use macrodroid, tasker, or automate
literally sheep might as well buy an iphone

>>58335661
Why can't Android phones just have more volume steps? From my understanding it's not a difficult tweak that OEM's or even Google could make to increase the volume steps.

Opinions about the honor 5C? Will it get cyanogenmod? It has a Kirin 650 SoC and huawei released the open source.

>I have small hands so its tedious reaching across my phone to access my tabs on chrome
Swipe down on the address bar to access tabs, swipe on the address bar to switch between tabs

>>58345021
kelly, just keep using the iphone.

>>58345220
>>58345021

>>58336155
Seriously? file commander?

>>58345220
Thanks. I still have to reach to the top of my phone but the larger target helps.
>>58345230
I'm hoping that the iphone 8 has a headphone jack desu. I'll happily buy one.

>>58345518
well text me back already, damn

sup /g/ents, gettin pretty tired of the no-4G in America Xiaomi memery with my Redmi Note 3 Pro. Think its finally time to get something with proper US support.

Is there anything as good as the RN3P with good USA support (taking into account cheap RNP3 price, etc)?

Main things I care about:
-SD card slot
-long battery life
-fingerprint scanner (I love using it....but I guess its optional)

I'm with cricket wireless but gonna switch to T-Mobile soon.

Can the G4 be haxx0red the get rid of the ads?

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>>58332395
Im looking for smartphones with a stylus besides the samsung note and lg phones does anyone know of other phones?

WHAT CAN ONEPLUS JUST MAKE MORE 128 GB MODELS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Opinions about the Huawei P9 lite?

>>58346168
You need to root your phone and install F-Droid and from there Ad-away.

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>>58346321
Reilusti varastossa = plenty in stock :^)

>>58346556
But am not yurop

>>58346321
>>58346556
MFW OP3T 128gb will never be in stock. Im thinking about just pulling the trigger on a lg v20

>>58346622
Bootloops

>>58332773
HTC 10 has a built in separate DAC/AMP with great power

so who was the best phone of 2016?
my personal vote is mate 9

>>58347791
OP3T

Anyone have experience with buying Smartphones on Amazon?
I'm looking to purchase two phones, preferably Andriod with around $500 budget. The review system is wonky on Amazon for phones.
Regular web browsing and battery life important for one.
Good camera and web browsing important for the other.

Any tips in the right direction are greatly appreciated.

>>58347791
iPhone SE