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install gentoo

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>>58322297
On you finish your broccoli, then you can have all the gentoo you want.

>>58322375
?

Is GNU/Hurd ever going to be a thing

>>58322642
probably in a few years.
there are still people working on it though it's noones priority since GNU actually found a replacement kernel for it's system.

Too bad it's 2 decades late to make any impact whatsoever.
Hurd in itself was absolutely goat.

https://youtu.be/AzebnJkfdvM
>Secretaries using emacs
>anybody with a job using free shit

>>58322675
>Hurd in itself was absolutely goat.
then why isn't it being used over the linux kernel?
Why does only debian come with Hurd?

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>>58322712
they don't teach reading comprehension in elementary school anymore?

>>58322689
who are you quoting?

>>58322780
sorry, i was busy listening to >>58322689
and left out one key aspect of the question
What makes it so GOAT compared to any other *nix kernel?

reminder to disable addon updates in your browser
http://www.ghacks.net/2017/01/04/major-stylish-add-on-changes-in-regards-to-privacy/

Hi,

I'm using elementary OS which have Nautilus as a file browser.

I can mount my samba share, and read files etc, but i cant access the files in other aplications, like qbitorrent and Firefox.

I have already set the permission in Elementary OS to 777 since file permissions on the share is handled on the server, still cant access the share in other applications.

Anyone have any idea what this could be?

>>58322780
fix your font rendering, holy shit

>>58322846
>disable addon updates
Nope, you uninstall that shit if you still have it.

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Updated OP pasta
https://p.teknik.io/mxx8w

>>58322956
Why no install /g/entoo option?

>>58322955
so what if another addon decides to add botnet?

>>58322830
it's architecture.

you have one microkernel which manages only the most basic kernel services.
everything else runs on top of the kernel as a server.

everything is kept separate, which implies greater security
reliability is great because one server crashing does not make the entire system shit the bed, you just restart the server (MINIX 3 had a feature like that).

same goes for drivers.

You could write kernel servers/modules/drivers without having to possess an in-depth knowledge on how the rest of it works.

Just "plug it in" to an existing "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons"

>>58322968
wasn't there in the first place

>>58322898
i fail to see what's wrong with it.

>>58322977
Ah, so a more hackable kernel

Why won't the proprietary Nvidia drivers work in Debian Stretch?

>install Linux headers
>install nvidia-driver and nvidia-settings
>reboot
>still using nouveau driver
>run nvidia-settings, it tells you to run nvidia-xconfig
>install nvidia-xconfig and run it
>reboot
>X won't start at all

This used to work perfectly in Jessie. I'd use Jessie but the latest nvidia-driver for Jessie is so old that it doesn't support my card.

The Debian wiki doesn't say anything about what to do in Stretch to get the driver working.

>>58323117
Next time don't use a NVidia card.

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did it finish or what

>>58323163
yes

>>58323163
if there's not a red

ERROR : Couldn't make ********* line xxx; ERROR [error name]

it finished

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I got a really weird question


How do I make it so that when I open a new folder window I get a different background in the folder window. I want it to be like I'm moving around in the environment by "mapping" the "sectors" hahahahahah


haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
hahhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

>>58323095
Yeah.
Two reasons why it didn't succeed
>mismanagement resulting it being greatly outpaced by linux in a short period of time
>at the time the performance impact of running a microkernel was just too big (microkernel switches between kernel mode and user mode all the time).

It's architecture would even stop FSF from complaining about MUH PROPRIETARY FIRMWARE because it would've been very easy to simply distribute driver modules in binary form.

Just imagine.
A world where youre using a fully free as in freedom kernel.
And you install new hardware drivers just by plopping a file in the right place on your HDD.
and start them without even having to reboot

>>58323163
just fucking grep the ls for -x11

>>58323253
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 445 Jan 4 20:44 gdk-x11-2.0.pc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 396 Jan 4 20:44 gtk+-x11-2.0.pc

>>58323251
Dude, you made me cum.

>>58323278
There it is!

>>58323251
>>58323285
sorry, i'm not really into free as in freedom, so this might be a noobish question, but aren't there already deblobbed linux kernels?

>>58323374
aaaaand what the fuck that has to do with anything?

learn to read

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>>58323305
I forgot to apply the FUCKING PATCH

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>>58323425
what distro u on?

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>>58323463
ubuntu 16.04

>>58323407
>Just imagine.
>A world where youre using a fully free as in freedom kernel.
learn to read

>>58322885
I will think on this. I'm not super great with linux but I think I can figure this out.

>>58323653
Did your parents gift you with an additional chromosome?

>>58323374
I have already spent some time reading through the readLine() documentation and got to imagining it all that way. I don't really know how to approach the kernel yet but the idea of it just gets me so hott.

>>58322885
you need to have gvfs installed.

qbittorrent and firefox are not network aware applications.

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>>58323483
ok so, patch applied
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka
compiled
installed

~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep gtk+
ii  gtk+2.0                                                     2.24.30-2                                  amd64        CUSTOMBUILD GTK

but no thumbnails

pls dont tell me I have to recompile everything else too

>>58323853
did you patch and recompile glib too?

>>58323853
Your schreenshot is full of thumbnails

>>58323816
Thanks gonna try that, was tugging my hair with permissions and similar..

>>58323876
no
>>58323908
I want bigger thumbnails, like in the file explorer icon view, for the file picker

>>58323955
>bigger thumbnails
hahaha use KDE if you don't want to be stuck with the retarded GTK file picker

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>58324115
unironiacally gentoo

>>58324125
nonfree pig disgusting

>>58324115
If that's too much and you aren't going to be hardcore abot it give Pixel OS a try. It's cute as fuck.

But really it's not shabby at all.

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is it really the best distro? if so why?

>>58324239
Yes.

Try it and see for yourself. Or, try Antergos, then Arch when you are ready.

>>58324203
gentoo/HURD then :^)

>>58324239
It's a meme. It sells itself as simple and lightweight while in reality it's the opposite. The userbase is a bunch of freedom hating teenagers who feel somehow 1337 for copypasting some wiki commands.

>>58324239
bloated, insecure trash

>>58324332
>he couldn't install arch

>>58324452
Thanks for confiming the cringe.

>>58324332
>The userbase is a bunch of freedom hating teenagers who feel somehow 1337 for copypasting some wiki commands.
guess that's just some winkeks running arch in a vm in order to be cool, not everyone is like that, I actually try to keep nonfree shit to the minimum

>>58324352
the bloat is what makes arch simple, it's called convenience

arch is nice, just ignore the bad part of the userbase

>>58323876
patched, compiled, installed glib
no change

$# dpkg -l | grep CUST
ii  glib2.0         2.48.1-2         amd64        CUSTOMBUILD GLIB
ii  gtk+2.0         2.24.30-2        amd64        CUSTOMBUILD GTK

but now I know how to compile things

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>>58324769
looks like I was just looking in the wrong place, Firefox 50 already uses GTK 3

well "icon view" works in Gimp and inkscape, but thumbnails don't but some people commented about that in the github gist

>>58322846
Use Greasemonkey.

// ==UserScript==
// @name        example
// @include     https://www.example.com/*
// @version     1.0
// @grant       GM_addStyle
// @grant       GM_getResourceText
// @resource    exampleFile path/to/example.css
// ==/UserScript==
GM_addStyle(GM_getResourceText("exampleFile"));

That's it.

>>58322642
Hurd is part of the GNU project. You can say just GNU for the entire operating system or Hurd if referring to the kernel.

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>when you theme so hard xorg crashes and xfce shits the bed

>>58325591
no, i mean GNU/Hurd specifically
GNU can also be assumed to be running the Linux kernel
Hence my being so specific

>>58326399
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>58326399
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

>>58326596
>>58326607
dude omg ur so funny i've never seen this pasta before teach me pls

For some reason, the Ubuntu Software program ain't opening for the last few days, and I've no idea why. Either way, what's the most recommended office software for Ubuntu? Libre Office is lacking too much of the stuff that I got used to use in Botnet 10.

>>58326847
Libre Office or use something decent (as in no office software)

Post useful shell scripts

>>58326906
> (as in no office software)

It was more of a catch-all term, I need my not-excel spreadsheets and docs with plenty of format features, and Libre Office is just too basic.

>>58326847
software center? it's shit, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install synaptic
as for office just use google docs

>>58326607
This classic pasta. Also people misunderstand Stallman. He thinks in terms of decades/centuries. When he sat around staring at proprietary AT&T Unix realizing that if he didn't do anything there would never be a way to run your own free OS and forever we would be in walled prisons he remedied this by creating GCC which is more than a monumental effort, without it there wouldn't be Linux, wouldn't be BerkeleySD distros, no Illumos because Open Solaris had a proprietary compiler, ect.

Sure we have LLVM now, but what will you do when Intel/AMD/hardware mfg make an agreement with LLVM that only a proprietary module can be leased in order to compile code against their CPU? We can still run all the lisp we want on those systems but the underlying actual OS will be proprietary and spying on everything you do.

>>58326943
>do sudo apt-get install synaptic
Thanks.

> just use google docs
But what if I don't want the botnet to read my gay fanfiction and backlog progress?

>>58326847
>For some reason, the Ubuntu Software program ain't opening for the last few days, and I've no idea why.
start it from the terminal, if you see something concerning, file a bug report.

>Either way, what's the most recommended office software for Ubuntu? L
Libre Office

>Libre Office is lacking too much of the stuff that I got used to use in Botnet 10.
Like what?

>>58326952
>wouldn't be Linux,
There were various other userlands in existance at the time. If not gcc something else would have been used

>>58326968
but if the botnet doesn't read them, then who will? you want followers don't you? but seriously if you're too paranoid for google docs then I guess give wps office a shot

>>58326986
gcc is the compiler which enabled Linus to even distribute his kernel, at the time no free compilers existed and patents threatened to sue you out of existence if you used their software to build your free software.

Stallman got together people like Knuth, Sussman/Abelson (who are all old FSF members) and the MIT hacker lab to build his new compiler. He also worked on it something like 12hrs a day for a year straight. Nobody else was going to do this, ever.

LLVM/CLANG is a great improvement on this early work but there will always be a threat of mfg selling proprietary build modules meaning you can't make anything to run on their system without getting auth and paying fees.

>>58326942
So, you want some most basic shit but Libre Office is too basic?
I call bullshit on this.

>>58327060
>this task was monumental and if my hero didn't do it then it would never have gotten done
you got some stars in your eyes bruh

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>>58326984
>>58326989
>>58327097
Nvm, I'm a retard who didn't try Libre Office enough to see all it's features. Thanks for the help either way.

>>58327154
Have you taken one compiler class?
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rjsimmon/15411-f15/schedule.html

Finish that attempt to make your own gcc for just one arch (or a Haskell compiler, or even the Golang compiler). Now spend a year debugging what you've written and read the entire Art of Computer Programming series by Knuth in order to optimize it. That should take you about 6 years. Come back and post your new compiler

>>58327219
>you personally can't do it so no one else could have performed said task, not even the other people at the time who were headed in that direction
he only got there first bruh. there was never a need for more than one open source compiler to exist, so of course the first working compiler would become the only one, but it's not the monumental task you think

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>>58327060
Don't reply to him, he's a rectally annihilated BSD faggot that comes here everyday and once he get shat on by everyone asks "why do they persecute me so I just wanted a discussion on reeeeel unix"


I'll save you the trouble of reading through his post and give you a tl;dr of what you'll learn today
>rms is a toejam eating communist kike
>gpl is more restrictive than proprietary licenses (communism too)
>bsd license is true freedom
>openBSD is the apogeo of operating systems and it works on 99% of the hardware he tried it on so you should try it out too
>it's so robust, safe and beautiful he doesn't understand why it's not the leading operating system on this planet because theo personally reviews and tests every character of the code
>btw sony used it for playstation but closed the code so eh still massive success
>theo dindu nuffinz
>not having software actually doesn't matter

Here I just saved you a solid hour of your life.

i have xubuntu 14, can i upgrade to 16 without losing all my installed programs, home folder and so on? and how?

>>58327279
holy shit dem tiddies!

>>58327279
>he's a rectally annihilated BSD faggot that comes here everyday
That is of course every BSD thread on /g/ ends up in them bickering with every neet and /v/edditor who pops by to have a laugh.

>>58326399
>GNU can also be assumed to be running the Linux kernel
It cannot.

>>58327293
You do it by normally installing but during the partitioning part of the installation process you select your /home partition to NOT be ereased and instead be kept as-is

>>58327313
like in mah animes

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It's just systemd, which can run any kernel and any userland.

There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of it's kernels.

>>58327261
>shitposting

It was about timing. Right when gcc was released SunOS was selling proprietary compilers, and the exact timing of gcc being available started the free software movement because you could download SunOS parts and compile them with gcc to hack and change the system. It was Linus who was doing this, hacking together his own system on SunOS with gcc which led to him deciding to write his own kernel.

>>58327398
bsd
malloc
busybox
qlibc

>>58327440
nice "replacements" to copy the gnu system

>>58327481
gnu was a replacement for existing userlands at the time :^)

>>58327440
Noone actually runs that on the desktop. These are helpers to run embedded linux systems (smart TVs, whatever).

>>58327510
gentoo uses busybox
various embedded systems use busybox and qlibc

Those MILLIONS of devices using non gnu cause its bloated as fuck for their needs?

Nah kiddo

>>58327440
Whats your point. You could aswell list Windows and OSX, which is also not GNU software.

>>58327527
>gentoo uses busybox
found the guy who never installed gentoo
install gentoo

>>58327527
Gentoo uses whatever you want it to use.

>Those MILLIONS of devices using non gnu
Millions of devices off topic.

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>>58322145
Hi /flgbt/. What are you using for writing small random text notes (not programming)? I want something distraction-free, fully offline, with basic markup language support.
Tried remarkable, but wtf I can't even use Tab to indent first line of paragraph (it replaces with syntax highlighted code block).
Tried gedit but wtf it can't even into automatic hyphenation.
Tried LbreOffice – does job well but too bloated for such simple stuff.
Wat do?

>>58327765
echo "install gentoo" >> notes

>>58327765
emacs

>>58327765
maybe https://gottcode.org/focuswriter/ ?

>>58327786
Well, that's utter answer. Will try to set it up properly.
>>58327833
Can't find option to display line numbers. So sad.

>>58327893
>Well, that's utter answer. Will try to set it up properly.
I wasn't joking.

Emacs is absolutely great even if you're not doing any programming whatsoever.

It's a development environment, word processor, file manager, shell, web browser, mail client, text editor, presentation maker, organizer, journal, note taker.

If you used GuixSD emacs could be your package management frontend.

press Alt+x, type tetris and slap return for a surprise.

>>58328002
>press Alt+x
blooooooooooooat

>>58328002
I know how all-in-one-ish solution emacs is. Once I even wanted to replace gnumeric with org-mode completely.
But this learning curve... You know. It takes time to even understand how it works, not talking about setting everything up.
PS: do not mention spacemacs, its hipster garbage.

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>>58328078
>PS: do not mention spacemacs, its hipster garbage.
I'm a GNU/Purist when it comes to operating systems disguised as text edtiors.

>>58328156
Bet ya dont use hurd :^)

>>58328204
I would if it did boot

>>58328234
Why dont you contribute to the project with your issues :^)

>>58328241
I did

how big is an antergos user on the epeen scala

>>58328314
if arch is a 6 then antergos is 4 tops

>>58328352
below average? ;_;

I can't seem to make package.use work, for example I have in this case:

>=www-client/seamonkey-2.46 -chatzilla

>>58328372
average is linux mint (1 above windows, which is 0)
so 4 is pretty huge

>>58328386
The average user uses at least Ubuntu (2).

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>>58328156
Well, it seems to work. Sort of. Now i have a few more questions.
1. How to make it split vertical, not horizontal?
2. How to make it render something? What this command "markdown" from? What should i install (aside gentoo)?

>>58328465
I assume you're familiar with emacs keybinds.

C-x 2 splits horizontally
C-x 3 splits vertically
C-x 0 (zero) will remove split windows leaving only the one you have currently focused

You change focux with C-x o (o as in "other frame")

Skipping through documentation on markdown mode C-c C-p will enter preview mode

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>>58328465
Fuck.

>>58328465
>>58328599
>>58328602
I'd also recommend you to look into melpa repositories (you know the OS bit of Emacs with it's own package manager and shit)

https://melpa.org/#/

Don't bother with elpa, it's pretty inferior and poorly managed if not discontinued completely.

Everything from themes, through games to additional modes.

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>>58328599
Ty very much, it works.
> C-c C-p will enter preview mode
C-c C-p is undefined.
Also i figured out how to render something. It was package called discount, okay. Now it shows pure html instead of rendered page. Is it how it was intended?
> Don't bother with elpa
I already using melpa, along with instructions found here:
http://jblevins.org/projects/markdown-mode

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>>58328712
> tfw too dumb to handle emacs

http://emacs.sexy/

>>58328712
C-c C-p should create a temp file and open it up in your browser.

I dunno buddy, I would help you out but it's 3 am and i'm schleepy.

you're on your own

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>>58328730
good find

>>58328738
Fuck. Good night anyway.

>>58328465
>>58328599
>>58328602
>>58328712
>>58328724
>>58328730
>>58328738
>learning a scripting language to do basic text editing

>>58328762
B-But you can play tetris in this text editor s-sempai~

>>58328754
>ps, grep, kill
>not using pkill
hollywood n00bz

>>58328794
bloat

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>>58326941

#!/bin/sh

# yolo - kill a random process
# Copyright (C) 2017, Anonymous
#
# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

kill -9 "$(pgrep . | shuf -n 1)"

>>58328386
>>58328352
how is a distro which is literally an arch installer with a rebranded logo in any way near actual arch?

>>58329098
It's fixes what Arch is lacking:

+ adds an simple and lightweight installer
+ adds a logo which doesn't show a fat guy with an edgy triangle on his head

which makes it even better than actual Arch.

>>58329098

It uses all the Arch repos without any alteration like Manjaro.

Also, you can always comment out the Antergos repo and you'll basically have Arch.

>>58326968
>worrying about the botnet
>using systemd

>>58330507
>being a tech illiterate
>browsing /g/

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>>58322145
What are the available patches for Slackware, particularly, Freeslack, for optimized security?

What are the patches, in what order do I apply them for maximum security? How do I factor in kernel loadable modules for maximum security/usability?
http://thc.org/root/docs/loadable_kernel_modules/

So I was installing a fresh linux installation on my hard drive over an old installation, and now The amount of the drive I can partition is 20 GB less than the original storage space on the drive

Is this the local anime thread?

>>58331158
>using a distro run like a dictatorship

>>58331170
GNU/Linux*

>>58331199
no, fuck off

>>58331221
>Using opaque wrappers for bootup

>>58331221
>using a distro not run like a dictatorship
>thinking that a dictatorship isn't the best model for running a distro
leave

>>58331245
Why?

>>58331260
kys nerd

How can I uninstall kde and everything without manually uninstalling each package?


I'm running ubuntu 16.10. I was bored and wanted to try out a new DE, tried KDE, but didn't like it much so I wanted to uninstall it, but it's like herpes or something. I can't get rid of it.

I ran this to install it

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

and tried this to uninstall it

sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop

That didn't do much, though. There's still an option to login using plasma and there's still a bunch of the k* programs that came with it still there. I try removing those, the terminal says it does it successfully, but then I reboot and shit like klipper is still loading up. I try uninstalling it again, but it says it's not installed. How do I go back to pre-KDE? Do I have to completely reinstall the OS or something?

>>58331315
see >>58331315

>>58331260
So much this

Also, thoughts on slackware patches?

>>58331330
do
sudo apt-get purge systemd
It's blocking you from changing the current DE.

>>58331354
yeah, I somehow don't think that's it

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So I've come across a good amount of dissent from users that make the very plausible and seemingly valid claim that setting up a USB with persistence is folly, due to the fact that constant writing to the USB memory (on the scale of an OS ) is massively destructive. The argument is that an OS itself makes many many more reads and writes than a regular user who's just saving documents and images etc...
So because that the USB doesn't use technology on par with an SSD, that they have a very finite number of read/write cycles before they just die out.

My question is that is this more heresay than actual fact? Has anyone actually witnessed this occur? (the actual loss of write/read ability on the drive) Or is this one of those things that a few people see in *theory* being true, but actually hasn't been verified ?

>>58331413
dont use the word theory in such a retarded manner next time. won't even bother answering

>>58331413
>that the USB doesn't use technology on par with an SSD
Excuse me, but literally what?

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ar crv

ar -crv

Both do the same shit. Whats with the inconsistency? It really triggers my autism

>>58331413
>book title
>physical book
>that thumb
>running windows
>gmail
top bait

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Wow it feels like forever since I was here last.

>>58324980
>>58323163
>>58323853

I am going to start working on this actually.

However the problem is, gtk is currently under GNOME's hand. Even if I patch this (my aim is to patch it when gtk+4 comes along) I am not sure if gtk maintainers will merge my patch.

However you should know that gtk is very complex. The file chooser alone has almost 9000 lines of (un)readable C codes. (Thank god there is no Vala/Clutter monstrosity yet)

>>58327361
I'm thinking of creating a Linux only DE that exclusively depends on systemd. Thinking of forking a wayland WM for it since writing a brand new WM is really boring and time consuming.

Do you have any suggestion about WMs?

>What's the point of a new DE
Freedom, mainly. However I wanted to become an LxQt dev. But LxQt people really care about modularity and portability. I don't want to build a modular DE, I want to have a proper Desktop Framework like GNOME/KDE/GNUstep etc.

>What will distinguish your DE from the other DEs
+Centralized control panel (Inspired from YaST)
+Built in appimage/snaps sandboxes with GUI frontend
+DE Framework will include a productivity daemon (email, reminder, android/iOS/Desktop sync tool etc)
+A notification panel
+Qt based
+Follow freedesktop standards as much as possible
+Depend on one standard init system: systemd (This is for ease of maintainance and making a meaningful control center)
+The most feature rich yet fast file manager ever
>>58327765
textadept. Written in only 3k lines of C and Lua. I adore this editor.

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>>58322145
So permission os set to read. But not write. Went into terminal as root and copy pasted. But it still says im not allowed to write

>>58331740
stop namefagging retard, I thought you learned ;_;

How do I install Gsettings schemas? I have it downloaded from the repository, the only answers I could find were 7 year old forum posts

(transmission-gtk:8077): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system

>>58331757
Do you own the directory?

>>58331600
there are three styles:
old, short and long
old are historical unix style options (abc)
later improved to short options (-abc or -a -b -c)
gnu invented long options (--stuff)

since unix is kill, stick to short options for daily use and (if you want) for readability or scripts to long options (if available)

>>58331954
And then Sun came along and decided that a single dash is bloat and invented -longoptions.
:^)

>>58331989
-single
+double

>>58331858
what are you trying to do?

>>58331954
>>58331989
>>58332001
>current year
>using the commandline

>>58332007
guess he want's to get rid of gtk's error spam
>>58331858
2>/dev/null

>>58332011
Yes. It helps if you are working from a remote server.

>>58331948
Well I did tick "make me admin" when I installed fedora

>>58332054
The drive you are trying to access, you don't have the admins rights to it, since it's an external mount, it's not a part of your fedora installation

>>58332113
Right. I cant format it when I go to disks. So what do I do? Is there a way I can format it

>>58331954
neat. Thanks

>>58332129
So you want to format a disk?

If so,
1. Identify your disks with lsblk (consider it's /dev/sdb2
2. Unmount disk #umount /dev/sdb2
3. cfdisk /dev/sdb
4. write a new file system to that disk
5. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb
Re connect USB drive

I just installed Ubuntu Mate on my Thinkpad x130e

Pretty fucking nice. I don't need Windows 7 on that anymore. I was gonna try and stick XP on it but fuck it. It works perfectly.

This shit can't do 720p streaming videos well. That's about all I've noticed, but it's been like that with Windows. Except in Windows 7 it could handle it a little better. No big deal for me. I use it for casual shit like Netflix and Hulu and e-mails and job hunting.

I put Linux MInt on my Yoga 710 and it's nice too. I had to do acpi=noirq because it was having issues but now that it's working it's lovely to have this. Maybe I can gradually become Linux-only. I need to get over this reliance on Windows... I seriously don't need it. If there's something I need on Windows I'm sure I can emulate it. Except for games.. but I don't play much on here. Maybe I can keep 30GB just for Windows incase I see a torrent for a game I really wanna play and I can stick it on my external HD or some shit.

>>58332215
Thats the only way to get privelages, rightn

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One thing I really like about Gentoo is their documentation.

I think I'm going to try and install it.
It seems straightforward enough.
Does anyone have any firsthand experience with X220/Gentoo setup, as well as any tips for new users going this route?

>>58332282
Gentoo man looks hot in that skirt

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>>58332236
>This shit can't do 720p streaming videos well.
Your iGPU is not powerful

Welcome

>>58332267
No there is chown chmod too.

>>58331784
I never understood why you hated me. That's not my name actually.


Bye again, fglt

No matter how many times I re-read the ALSA wiki page, I still cannot write my /etc/asound.conf the way I want it to work.

Is there an ALSA wiki for dummies?

>>58332303
Okay so the directory I wanna write files is /run/media/sugna-laptop/FC30-3DA9

And I want sugna-laptop to be able to write. So what command do I fo

>>58332303
>Your iGPU is not powerful

I really thought it would be powerful, though.

With an AMD Radeon HD6320 in it

It's a Loonix problem. Like always it still can't handle some GPU's well, particularly AMD's.

>have laptop with ubuntu 6.10
>use hdmi on laptop to connect a second display
>second display occasionally freezes up (seems to only happen when playing youtube videos)
>mouse gets locked onto second display but nothing is clickable
>keyboard becomes unusable
what's going on? how do i fix this?

>>58332384
16.10*

>>58332375
https://askubuntu.com/questions/6723/change-folder-permissions-and-ownership

>>58332303
pls come back! we love you

What's an alternative to discord? Ring or Mumble?

We should really make a channel. At least we will have a proper mod there.

Plus IRC is not secure

>>58332634
whats wrong with discord?

>>58332653
Same reason I like notepad++ over sublimetext.

If there is an open source alternative, we'll use it.

OP please make an fglt channel

>>58332674
We had one, it was merched to #sqt since nothing happend.

why all the hassle? just use windows, it has games too

>>58332408
I did

chwon sugna-laptop:sugna-laptop /directory/bla/bla

And now it still says sugna-laptop can only read the files?

>>58332748
Freedom,
You can't touch win32 API but you can definately touch gtk. It's on the github and you are free to modify, add feature or do anything with it.

New to computer and linux
I have a t420 with arch linux and the battery is stating to deteriorate
Heard on /g/ that the best way to treat your lithium ioin battery is to keep it a 60 or do cpmplete charging cycles form 0 to 100
Dont know wich is right
What I want is to know if its possible to write a script to disable the charging on my laptop at 75 % and enable it at 45%

Can I even control the charging through the os?
How do i write the script?
How do i make it run on startup and never die?
Does something simmilar already exists?

>>58332833
Disable background applications like bluetooth, printer daemon etc

Stackoverflow said that function arguments can only be strings in BASH, and I don't want to use eval like a retard or anything like that, so I assume that I'm asking for the impossible. Is there a decent way of doing something like this with callbacks (similar to javascript), or am I going to have to settle for ifs or case chains?

function assert_dir_exists()
{
    [[ ! -d $1 ]] && $2
}

SRC_DIR=./foo/
assert_dir_exists $SRC_DIR "function{ SRC_DIR=./bar/ }" #if ./foo is not a dir, then
assert_dir_exists $SRC_DIR "function{ ./bar.sh }"       #if ./bar is not a dir, then
assert_dir_exists $SRC_DIR "function{ exit 1 }"         #if ./bar is still not a dir, exit
echo $SRC_DIR

>>58332841
my arch install is pretty minimalist with i3 and basic stuff
Does the bluetooth and priter daemon come preloaded by default
what should i check in systemctl to see if they are enabled

>>58332876
#sudo systemctl is-active cups
inactive

>>58332833
you don't need to write your own script. Install TLP which allows you to set charge thresholds

>>58332873
Don't do complex shit in bash. Though I have no idea what you're trying to do in that example, the function you define is totally pointless.

>>58327765
learn vim then install these plugins

https://github.com/junegunn/goyo.vim
https://github.com/plasticboy/vim-markdown

What reminder app do you guys use?

>>58333661
>reminder app
Why would I want that shit?

>>58333698
For reminding myself about the Appointments

>>58333745
Use a calender like a sane person?

>>58333760
Calander doesn't have a notification pop up

>>58324332
>simple and lightweight while in reality it's the opposite
not so much the simple part, since it is retarded simple but the lightweight part I can agree with since everytime you want to install a package you just pull in even more dependencies and more bullshit you will never use

>>58333768
Yes, and?

>>58333830
Calendar is not a reminder

>>58333773
That's how dependencies work, and it's the same for all binary-based distros.

>>58333844
You just check the calendar in regular intervals to remind yourself of things coming up.

>>58333847
I know but Ubloatu handles it like an adult and most other distros do as well since they already have them installed, being lightweight means jack shit if you get obese progressively.

>>58333856
>2017
>using calendar
>not checking the lunar phase every night to know the date
But in all seriousness, why do you even bother responding if you have nothing to add?

>>58332282
Don't go the genkernel route. Configure the kernel, it's not hard. i did a full install twice that failed and it was because genkernel genkernel can be fucky apparently, did a manual configuration and it worked. You don't even really have to tweak the manual configuration if you don't want.

>>58333887
>handles it like an adult
Besides that there are minimal installs of Ubuntu which makes your whole it's there from the beginning point moot the idea that bloat is any better or worse depending on when it was installed is extra-special retarded

Is opensuse a more stable rolling release than arch? I want a rolling release distro, preferrably one that works well with KDE. I would probably use a more easy variant of arch as well, like antegros or something.

>>58331740
>I am going to start working on this actually.
thanks a lot

>>58331740
>The file chooser alone has almost 9000 lines
Jesus what the fuck does it even do? Doesn't even have a search panel

>>58334029
>stable rolling release
No such thing. Rolling release, per definition, is not stable.
You shouldn't worry about it though since unstable doesn't mean it breaks or something.

I did this but...
https://askubuntu.com/questions/6723/change-folder-permissions-and-ownership

chwon sugna-laptop:sugna-laptop /directory/bla/bla

And now it still says sugna-laptop can only read the files?

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>>58334661

>>58334689
Yes i did that, and the -R

>>58334661
>chwon sugna-laptop:sugna-laptop /directory/bla/bla
Because that's wrong, and the shit you linked even tells you why it's wrong.

>>58334738
I added the -r and the group is called sugna-laptop

>>58334749
>>58334734
Did you chmod?

>>58334749
You did it wrong. Chances are you had a typo or fucked up the path or whatever. And since you seem to be unable to provide us with the information of what exactly you typed we can't help you even if we want.

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>>58334814
No, I didnt type it in wrong. I said blah blah blah cause I didnt wanna type the whole path in

sudo chown -R sugna-laptop:sugna-laptop (directory in pic that I copy pasted) so it isnt wrong

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How do I make this setting boot automatically?

>xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set underscan on

I'm too much of a noob to write complete scripts.

>>58334932
You could have, you know, copy and pasted the shit from the history.

anyway, check
ls -l /run/media/sugna-laptop/FC30-3DA9

>>58335351
Why? This way was faster. And I did it like 4 times so there is no way its wrong. Stop doubting me. Its not working. Id rather no help. You're being an absoloute (opposite of friendly)

>>58335440
Telling you that you need to provide the exact command if you want help with it is helpful for the rest of your life.
Telling you that you can copy and paste it and don't even need to type it is helpful for the rest of your life.
In which way was this faster when it took us several communication steps which didn't go further as "What the hell was that command that didn't work for you?"
Guess what? I'm going to stop trying to help you now.

>>58335552
You asked me once. And I got it right.

You asked me once and I confirmed I put it in right.
Go away

good morning

>>58336199
good anime morning

>>58336199
good gnu/morning

>>58336199
>>58336306
>>58336316
what's so good at this morning?

>>58336328
it doesn't run nonfree software

>>58336199
>>58336306
>>58336316
>>58336328
it's not morning though what are you even on about?

>>58335318
Hello?? Any help?

Why is gcc so bloated? It can days to compile even on modern hardware

What ya saying anons. I installed bspwm and I love it, now, it's using sxhkd and I'm already using xbindkeys since forever. Should I switch over or set bspwm up with xbindkeys? I've not much experience with sxhkd, is it better?

>>58336538
it's gnu shit, why are you even surprised that it's bloated?

>>58336538
back in my days, bait meant something and people put some effort into it

>>58336550
>hating on gnu
Time to leave the gene pool.

>>58336566
>not hating on ugly, outdated and bloated shit
Time to leave the gene pool.

>>58336554
Classic GNUtard, always immediately assuming any and all attacks on anything GNU is bait.

>>58336566
>loving something just because of its creators
Nah, kid. How about you do that instead?

>>58336589
yeah, they are known for their near religious appraisal of GNUshit.

What are the essentials of setting up Ubuntu for computer illiterates?

I set up Ubuntu 14.04 for my mom 2 years ago and it was one of the best decisions in my life. Worked almost like clockwork, aside from a few fuckups with 3rd paty programs like Skype, Viber and myweatherindicator.

I want to upgrade it to 16.04, how can I set it up so that I don't have to manually update programs like Viber, which don't update automatically using apt-get? A bash script?

Also, what is the best way to automate apt-get update and upgrade so that they wouldn't interfere with current user activity?

>>58336554
i am 99% sure you can't explain why his post is supposedly bait. you just see someone shitting on your favorite thing and immediately assume he is baiting. not even that he's wrong, you just don't think anyone could possibly disagree with your obviously wrong view of reality.

>>58336538
Even on arm it just takes like 8 hours, modern hardware my ass

>>58336681
see >>58336684

>>58336714
see >>58336681

>>58336721
Are you trying to play stupid now?
0/10, your bait was too obvious

>>58336767
>an obvious redditor trying to use words he doesn't even understand
www.reddit.com

Is it possible to do graphical stuff without having to use xorg?

>>58336948
Yes

I'm on Ubuntu 16.04. I installed hibernate but when I try to use it:

$ sudo hibernate -v2
hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
hibernate: Trying method in tuxonice.conf...
hibernate: Trying method in disk.conf...
hibernate: Trying method in ususpend-disk.conf...
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckLastResume ...
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckRunlevel ...
hibernate: [01] Executing LockFileGet ...
hibernate: [01] Executing NewKernelFileCheck ...
hibernate: [10] Executing EnsureUSuspendCapable ...
hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksSuspendHook1 ...
hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRO ...
hibernate: [89] Executing SaveKernelModprobe ...
hibernate: [91] Executing ModulesUnloadBlacklist ...
Unloading blacklisted modules listed /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules
Unloading blacklisted module psmouse (and dependencies)
Unloading blacklisted module nvidia (and dependencies)
Some modules failed to unload: nvidia_drm nvidia_modeset nvidia
hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist (use --force to override).
hibernate: [90] Executing ModulesLoad ...
Loading module psmouse (from auto)...
Loading module nvidia_uvm (from auto)...
hibernate: [89] Executing RestoreKernelModprobe ...
hibernate: [85] Executing XHacksResumeHook2 ...
hibernate: [70] Executing ClockRestore ...
hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRW ...
hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksResumeHook1 ...
hibernate: [01] Executing NoteLastResume ...
hibernate: [01] Executing LockFilePut ...

Any idea why that might be and how to fix it?

This thread is very unfriendly.

>>58337433
And not very helpful

This command doesn't work:
exec_always --no-startup-id 'hsetroot -solid "#000000"'

I want compton with black sreen and without long spinning on i3-wm.

>>58336538
Compile time is related to your hardware specs and the program you want to compile.

>>58336550
GNU code being bloated is a meme. In fact BSD implementations of programs usually have less LOC and are less complex, but in the end, this isn't what you really want.

For example, GNUs cat reads stuff in cooked mode, which is a lot faster, but more complex to write, while BSDs implementation reads char by char, which is simpler to write, but also slower at runtime. Same goes for other programs. Further, GNU code has very verbose comments, which makes it easy to learn what the program does if you're not a programmer and it makes it easy to hack.
GNU wants/must be portable to standards, which leads to additional checks and therefore additonal code.

tl;dr nice meme

>>58337567
>she thinks i mentioned LOC anywhere
didn't read any further. nice meme post though.

>>58337554
compton doesn't work with most background setters, use feh instead

>>58337649
>it doesn't work
Welcome to linux

>>58337664
this. enjoy your lincux

>>58337649
It's work, just command doesn't to launch it at startup.

>>58337664
>>58337696
didn't know that setting the desktop background is the kernels job, thanks

>>58337731
>i'm from rebbit and i don't know what a kernel is
yeah, that was pretty obvious. back to your subreddit though
>>>/r/ebbit

I cannot copy-paste from vim to web-browser and vice versa, what to do?

>>58337757
>subreddit
is this what they calle threads where you come from?
maybe you should go back
>>>/p/lebbbit

>>58337762
Maybe try using a non-hobbyist OS?

>>58337772
I am hobbyist.

>>58337762
post output of

vim --version | grep +clipboard

and distro

>>58322642
The day GNU/Linux becomes systemd/systemd.

>>58337769
yes. please join me at my website. don't forget to close this one though

>>58337796
No output.

>>58332364
What kind of weird shit you want anyway?

No, i checked and vim working okay now. Sorry
for bother.

>>58337852
No, it's not wokring when you root. What to do?

>>58332375
That is NOT just a folder you want to write. That is a mount point, with a filesystem with unix permission.

Your choices:
-format your pendrive as FAT32
-write it using root
-create a directory on it as root, change the owner of the directory to sugna-laptop and add then chmod 755 it

I repeat: you cannot and you shouldn't handle mount points as simple directories.

>>58337816
install vim-gnome, which has the clipboard feature

>>58337916
Whay about ncurses?

>>58337928
it's in the vim-gnome package

>>58337939
What? I don't what GUI for vim. I can just install emcacs for that. I need clipboard in terminal.

>>58337955
vim-gnome updates your normal vim with a more bloated version of vim (with the +clipboard flag enabled), either install it or compile vim yourself

>>58337955
alternativly, map xsel

>>58337977
WTF? Why they did it like this?

>>58338021
Cause you'd only use the clipboard if you're running vim in a terminal-emulator in your gui anyway

>>58338012
How?

>>58338073
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Accessing_the_system_clipboard

>>58338060
It's was working until vim 8.0 What changed?

>>58332007
get file picker to not immediately crash

>text editor can't even copy paste
linux everyone

>>58338140
didn't know the kernel is also used as text editor, thanks again

>>58336538
it's called GNU Compiler Collection

>>58338140
Vim is trash, emacs doesn't have this problem.

>>58338140
It can copy and paste though

>>58338189
how

>>58338163
>comparing a text editor to an operating system

>>58338073
>>58338223
install gentoo

>>58338223
y and p

>>58338258
doesn't work

>>58337035
use systemd
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sect-Managing_Services_with_systemd-Power.html

>>58338270
You sure you want to use vim?

->
-> >>58338279
->

>>58338290
I don' want use nano and cannot exit emacs, so i use vim.

>>58338277
reeeee

>>58338323
run vimtutor to learn the most basics of the basics

>>58338341
I can use vim, just can't copy-paste in root.

Is there a type of Foss sand box-like software for Manjaro?

>>58338360
>can use vim
>can't copy-paste
I'm getting conflicting information here

>>58333952
Nice argument, but I'm just spouting subjective nonsense. I'd rather have a bloated distro than waiting a million hours to install a package. That's just me though

>>58338385
it's doesn't work. I installed vim-gtk3, and it's works.

But thought that i need to install gui for vim so i can copy-paste in normal vim in terminal is just blown my mind.

I've only used large distros like ubuntu and debian with huge repos but I want to try out something smaller. As long as a distro is based on a distro with large repos, say debian, arch or fedora/red hat it will have access to all those packages is that right?

What if you use a distro not based on any of the big ones, is it straight forward to add extra repos or do you have to manually manage any extra packages? I want to try Sabayon and it's based on gentoo, so the repos should be pretty good right?

Why i can't find a 32 bit version of elementary OS on their site? I found a 32 bit version on another site and it has a "freya" in the name, is that ok?

Why is vim is trembling from top to bottom when i start it? In terminal emulator.

>>58338547
You are a very scary person. Please stop abusing poor little programs

>>58338576
it's just started to glitching when i start it. is it because of compton?

>>58338519
Yes, because it's the last version to support i386.

>>58338649
Thanks