/hpg/ headphone general

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Where my HD800 boys at?

HD25 is the only headphone you need and anything else is retarded.

>>58316140
Well yeah basically

>>58316127
>buyers remorse

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>tfw headphones are in the mail

ah. hi-fi. the meme that keeps on memeing, since the radio was invented.

>>58316127
placebo general?

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>>58316113
Eiaosi x6 best budget earphones?

Yes.
Yes it is.

Continued from
>>58315982
Trying to get redpilled on practical FLAC uses and objective, provable improvements compared to V0 or 320. No meme buzzwords like soundstage, depth, width or whatever. I figured the best thing to do is take an ABX test.
>>58316120
Isn't the standard like 20+ tests before result?

>>58316127
i got the hd900 or whatever the brown and khaki ones were. at first I disliked them but after a few hours of burn in the sound stage and bass really came through

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Who masterrace here? Sennshillfs BTFO.

>>58316548
>>>/g/csg

>>58316575
hello nigger!

>>58316575
nigger detected

>>58316113
Just got VE MONKs. I am surprised AF. They probably sound better than most of the headphones I ever had.

>>58316575
Only niggers use those dude.

>>58316607
>actually audible bass instead of mud in a paper bucket (snapheiser's sound signature lmao)
>hurr nigger!

>>58316629
It's ok pal maybe one day you'll be able to afford a pain of Sennheisers, until then your nigger headphones will sound fine I guess.

>>58316575
Give them back jamal
Kendrick is looking for them

>>58316648
Mudheiser HD600 are cheaper than X2 here actually and HD650 cost the same.

Snapshills BTFO once again.

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>>58316583
>headphones don't belong in the headphone thread

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>>58316575
>>58316629
>>58316681

Stop shilling this piece of shit every damn thread. I got tricked into buying one and all I got was unmatched drivers because shit quality control issues, bloated non-punchy bass, vocals that sound like they're from a hallway, no highs, uncomfortable until you have to take them off because your head is hurting. If you're in that price range, buy the HD600 or 400i.

Just returned my pair yesterday, most disappointing purchase I've made in a long time. I will never buy a headphone from Phillips again.

>>58316699
You sure you didn't buy a dud or plug them into your own asshole or something? What you're describing is literaly the contrary of how mine behave.

>>58316699
if x2's bass is too weak for you, you need to strap subwoofers to your head or stop buying fakes

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>>58316719
>>58316819

My pair was directly from Amazon themselves, it's a legit pair. They were uncomfortable as fuck because they're heavy even after stretching them out.

I didn't say the bass was weak, I'm saying it's uncontrolled, loose, and sloppy like a roastie vagina. There's no detail and texture in the highs, combined with the bloated bass made rock music unexciting. The only thing I'll give them credit for is the imaging, and maybe I would've been immersed if my ears weren't begging me for mercy after half an hour.

These are open headphones for basketball Americans, I'm sure you two love listening to BLACKED with your niggabass headphone, the wide soundstage must really feel like your getting cucked right there!

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>>58317051
It really sounds like you plugged them into your own asshole, the bass is tight and punchy, you also mentioned channel unbalance so you got a fucked up pair, into the trash goes your opinion.
Also they're some of the most comfortable headphones out there after the Audio Technica's wing band memes. Are you really complaining about clamp force? Cause the HD600 you mentioned are fucking vice grips in comparison. Heavy? What are you, a starved asian teenager?

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>>58317051
Maybe you got a defective X2/00 instead of the real deal, X2/27.

>>58317143
They're exactly the same, just different packaging for different regions.

>>58316688
its like saying scraps belong on a cooking forum. its garbage and has no place

>>58317211
Maybe I should've worded it more clearly.

Some X2/00 batches had defects.

>>58317238
Both of them had, they're all made in the same factories by the same people, the number only refers to the package itself.

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>>58316575
I bought this and I was wondering if I should buy this as well
FiiO E10K USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LP3AMC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PxoBybRCTATA1

I mostly use it for YouTube music like Vaporwave or Touhou music, Eurobeat and or power metal. Is it true that YouTube compress the audio, I also downloaded Music bee since I am always constantly alt tabbing between games and YouTube playlist

>>58316553
And I replied
>Yes but this is sample, encoder and bitrate dependent.
You can create sounds where almost any lossy encoder fails audibly, regardless of settings, encoder or bitrate used. You can even find problem samples to download and listen from LAME's website the last time I checked.

In practical uses(music for example), the audible issues are very rare and it's quite safe to say that mp3 V0 with a modern encoder and with MOST audio samples you throw at it is transparent. To test this, you have to do an ABX test. Luckily, codec ABX testing is a piece of cake to set up and do with some nice handy software(such as Foobar2000 with the ABX comparator). Use 20 trials if you want some level of statistical relevancy.

320 is worse than V0, despite the lower average bitrate. If you want to effectively do lossy compression, variable bitrate is the only way to go. The complexity of the content encoded changes with time and so should the bitrate to accomodate for this. A good lossy encode is transparent and saves space. That's the purpose of these high quality modern codecs, save space without sacrificing perceived quality.

>>58317307
>FiiO E10K
Yeah, it has an impedance output of <1.04 ohm so it will pair nicely with X2.

first pair of headphones
hd 559, ath m50x or ath m40x
is spending more for the first 2 worth it compared to the m40x?
mostly movies some music(anime,mainstream shit) maybe gaming if theyre comfortable enough
choose between them dont suggest others

>>58318107
DT770

>>58318107
>choose between them dont suggest others
you're an idiot

>>58316548
Fuck off Lithu

>>58316548
Nice underage pic

Reported

http://deskgram.com/aazptvbby_lq

>>58318145
im an idiot for being born in albania? gee boss I said that so i didnt waste time explaining but since you and this guy >>58318142 are dense guess ill explain
i pay shipping + 23% tax if i buy online
i found those 3 on a physical store on sale which is the same price as on the internet
either choose or shut your whore of a mouth

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>>58317451
Ah sweet! And do you know any website to rip audio from YouTube? People say FlAC is better than mp3 so I figured oh if I download Music Bee or whatever music player is better, I would hear more better, although I'm no audiophile, I just like crystal and loud detailed music.

>>58318679
>Ah sweet! And do you know any website to rip audio from YouTube?
Don't do that, just torrent the shit, weeb music is easy enough to find and autists usually rip it themselves so it comes in FLAC.

>>58318660
are you still the same guy from albania?

>>58318749
no u :^)

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>>58318660
>im an idiot for being born in albania?
yes

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>>58318702
Is Bitlord a good site for torrent? I have it installed on my desktop, I'll do thst, usually my music I listen to are Vaporwave mix so surely it'll be there. Yeah mostly like Eurobeat Touhou, Touhou metal, I'm trying to expand my taste in weeb metal music, any suggestions?

I bought the Sennheiser HD598CS during black friday and I really like the sound, it's very balanced with detailed and crisp treble and punchy bass, just how I like it. Unfortunately I have some problems with them, not sure why but when I use them for more than like 15 minutes I get major ear fatigue and my ears stay clogged for a very long time, I have to swallow to unclog them. If I keep it up and use them an entire day, after a while I just don't hear properly anymore and then I have the issue of clogged ears for DAYS on end as a result.

What the fuck am I doing wrong? At first I thought it was that I kept the volume too high, so now I listen to very low volume, unenjoyably low even, and it still happens. On the other hand if I use my usual chinese earbuds like the VE Monk or the expensive Shozy Cygnus I don't have the issue, I can keep the earbuds even 10 hours straight at moderately high volumes and no issues whatsoever.

>>58318953
>Africa so dumb they get grey
noice

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Is it worth getting a "better" DAC for the HD600 than my e10k? Or will it not really be much of a difference? I was just going to get an HD600 and Magni 2 and just use the e10k as a DAC, hoping I wouldn't have to spend anything extra than that.

I don't know if people on reddit and head-fi are just selling snake oil and trying to justify their expensive purchases, or if there actually is a big difference. Because they claim to hear a difference in everything down to headphone cables, like how the HD600 is a bad "pairing" with the O2/ODAC, whatever that means.

>>58319696
no

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>tfw headphones arrive
>tfw you listen to them for the first time
>tfw you aren't really sure if you like them or not
>Everything sounds wrong

This is a mixed kind of feel

Do you guys also get a feeling that you made a bad purchase at first? It has happened to me every time I buy a pair of headphones that doesn't have a super bassy signature to hide the flaws, but then I get used to it and find that they are actually kinda good.

>>58319956
what headphones did you get?

>>58316113
This is why you don't hire drawfags (architects) to do your house.

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Hi /g/urus, remind me, why bad headphones can't be fixed with equalizer settings? It is all about frequency response isn't it?

>>58319973
Audio Technica ATH-MSR7

The sound is very clear and crisp, maybe even too so. I'll find out more after further testing.

>>58319956
Buy expensive headphones in person at a reputable professional audio equipment store (where performers and techs go get their stuff).

Regardless if the brand has great reputation and the reviews are outstanding, try them out and try a few others in the same go to get a better hands on idea about whats going on with the sound.

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>>58320007
bump

>>58320007
>>58320114
because you don't know how to use a PEQ

>>58320013
what do you want to test?

>>58319956
This always happens. You need to use those for a few days and nothing else. If after a week or so you go back to your older headphones and still like them better, return the new pair. If your older headphones sound like shit in comparison, keep them.

>>58320007
>why bad headphones can't be fixed with equalizer settings?
Many can, many can't. That graphic equalizer isn't the tool for it, that's for sure.

>It is all about frequency response isn't it?
Almost and if you don't get that part right, you might as well not bother with the rest. There are cases where distortion can be audible, cases where headphone response isn't consistent even on one individual(think of AKG K550), cases where headphones have a limited bandwidth(earbuds) and so on. These are problems which can't be equalized out. There are also situations where you do not have a high quality equalizer at hand or you might not have a clue on how to use it effectively to fix the issues with the headphone at hand. Headphone quality can mean more things than the audio too such as comfort or build quality.

>>58320114
>ZX2
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/data/m_device/seeko_nw_zx2.png

My phone is better.

>>58319956
Very common if you are used to a headphone with very different sound prior to that. Use them for a while and then get yourself comfortable with an equalizer if there are problems with the response.

>>58319696
>is it worth it
Stop.
>Or will it not really be much of a difference?
Certainly not. I'm taking a guess and saying that unless one of these devices is broken, your FiiO or the one you "upgrade" to, there should not be any difference in sound. You don't pair these equipment.

r/headphones and especially Head-Fi has a hate boner for the O2.

>>58316553
Keep masters of everything in FLAC so you can encode to other smaller formats without extra loss

The Fidelio X2 are currently 110usd over here.

I have a pair or broken Denon AH D-2000.

The things I hear about the X2 seems so weird for being form philips and being so cheap.

I am in need of new headphones. But I don't want to take a step back from the D2000.

Should I bite the bullet?

>>58320007
Because they break in half after a few months.

I'm no expert but I'll make a few educated guesses based on my EE knowledge:
A peak at a frequency can be caused by a harmonic of a lower frequency due to poor design and adjusting the problematic frequency will further ruin the performance.
Also something might resonate at certain frequency due to poor design, adjusting will improve nothing or further ruin the performance.
It is very unlikely the channel resolution and channel position of the eq will match the bad spots well enough and adjusting anything will make everything super wonky.

>>58320272
swede?
I looked into the store and it seems pretty shit, heard reports of them being a horror if you have to deal with warranty or some shit

I'd buy a few pairs, sell them on ebay or whatever for 50$ more, since even second hand they sell for 180-200

and then buy a decent pair for a better store

>>58320272
Whats broken, want to sell?

>>58320007
bad headphones < bad headphones equalized to be more like god headphones < good headphones

EQ isn't something you shouldn't do, but it's something you shouldn't plan on doing.

>>58320370
Yeah, elgiganten.

The reviews I've read have them priced around 300usd.
So I'm not sure what to think of it.

>>58320413
Nah I'll keep them for building some weird custom strap for my Vive.

>>58316113
>explain
Sounds are better heard through bones or other solid entities.

>>58320138
I'm testing through music and trying to see if I notice anything lacking. So far all I seem to notice is that
Spotify playback is horrible to listen to
FLAC/Good quality audio files are very pleasant, if maybe a bit too crisp
Explosions in video games are pathetic with 0 bass

>>58320139
>>58320192
Yeah, I remember this happening with pretty much every pair of headphones I've bought in some capacity.
I need to either do my own EQ setup or try and find a nicely balanced one from somewhere to fix the issue with the bass.


Basically the biggest problem (which is something I noticed reviewers having issues with as well) is that the sound is too clear, which highlights faults in recordings and bad quality audio files. There isn't a whole lot of bass, but there is enough as long as the source is good.

Headphone purchase advice
Budget: around 100$
Location: US
Source: Laptop
Type: Closed
Comfort level: w/e
Past headphones: None

>>58320424
Well, getting the x2 for 110 is an amazing deal, lets start by saying that straight out
if you want a bassy pair of headphones, X2 are a great option

but like I said, it seems too good to be true, so either a) they're second hand, and badly so, b) they have manufacturing defects, aka defects. If so, most likely pretty bad ones. c) they're fake, but I doubt this since it's a pretty big store. Though I think I saw some reports of them selling fake beats, but it's hard to tell because they seem to be deleted archives

if you can, check and test them out in the store, if it seems good, definitely get some.
if you can't, it's pretty risky because they shouldn't be selling these so cheap for no reason, as I imagine if everything is in order with them they're selling them at a large loss, not just a loss of profit, but a netto loss in total

>>58320463
preferred music or will it be mainly for gaming/movies?

>>58320473
7/10 music 3/10 gaming

>>58320473
It's a well known store here in Sweden, so they shouldn't be fucking the customers over.

The thing is that I've been looking at much higher budget headphones, around the 800usd range.

But I don't mind a good deal either until I get something higher end, giving these to a family member.

>>58320506
preferred music?

>>58320564
They alreayd have a bad reputation score in those review sites and people have stated their problems returning broken items still under warranty and such, which is why I would be cautious.

There most likely is something wrong with it somewhere, but if there isn't, it's an absolutely amazing deal

>>58316699
Get some of the beyers for punchy bass and good highs if you don't mind recessed mids.

>>58317307
When I put on black lotus I instantly understood that X2 are not for me. Also >>58318702, it's not that hard to torrent it here https://en.rutracker.org/forum/index.php

>>58320583
i listen to alot of different stuff so i guess balanced headphones? but if i had to choose i'd say i listen to different types of rock
i'm thinking about the AD700X

>>58320630
>Full open-air type headphones

I don't know of any good neutral closed headphones in that budget tho, rippo

maybe /csg/ knows some?

>>58320442
>Spotify playback is horrible to listen to
Has nothing to do with the audio quality. 320kbps average bitrate on Vorbis is amazing and quite easily transparent on any musical content I could think of. Your mind playing trickery or the version on Spotify is not the same as the one you have on whatever other codec on your PC.

>>58320285
Can anyone experienced give me any opinion on my claims, I'm rather curious.

>>58320596
The reviews I'm seeing only praise them.

I'll give them a listen in few days when I can.

Trying to find scandinavian sellers of the hifiman he-500.

>>58320442
I had some kind of issue with all new headpones. The only headphones that WOW-ed me at first listen were the Sony MDR 1A, and the VE Monk.

The Sony just has a very musical, deep and warm sound that is just adorable to me, while the VE Monk mostly amazed me because they cost just 5 bucks.

Some headphones just always sounded like shit to me, such as the open HD598 or the ATH M50.

>>58320656
am i going to need amplifiers if i ever get some 100$ headphones? i've read about amplifiers but i still don't get when they're necessary

>>58320759
They're necessary when you don't get enough volume from your source. If you connect your headphones and max out the volume and it's still low, then you need an amplifier.

Any thoughts on the AD700X ?

Oppo HA 2 + Hifiman HE-400i?

I'm hovering around the HE-400/500 line.

>>58320657
Well, the thing that Spotify doesn't tell you is that the source files may be absolute dogshit, so even if it is technically streaming in 320kbps, the source file might only be 128kbps or something along those lines. I was listening to some moderately obscure stuff so that might have been why.

>>58320749
Yeah, after listening to other songs the bass response is a lot better, and the sound overall is very high quality, but the game I played an hour ago or so was Rainbow Six : Siege, and the explosions in that were just terrible. I'll have to try some other games and see if it's just an issue with that particular game.

>>58320759
Let me sum it up for you nicely.

Most hifi components with a dedicated headphone out usually do the job.
Want to plug your fat-ass cans into a mp3 player/phone? Tough luck, get amp.
Try it out without first tho.


Golden ear faggot?
Always get amp. Because reasons.

>>58320759
"it depends"
most ~100$ headphones don't need an amp
Some people swear that their HD558/598 sounds better with an amp and that it's garbage without one.
K612 also needs an amp

it's not a bad purchase, especially since it'll most likely last you a lifetime

>>58320830
>300$ for an amp, portable one at that
get a mont blanc e12 unless if you're getting it for the fashion

why are you getting a portable amp for he400i anyway

>>58320854
I need to be portable for listening where I want in the house without plugging things into the wall.

The Ha 2 is fashion shit though?

I'd love a portable dac/amp suggestion if you got one for the 400i.

>>58318107

M40X

>>58320908
see >>58320854

hell, apparently you could get a DAP with a built in amp like the Alpen E17. Not sure how good it is but audiobot seems to say it'd do fine for the amp at least.
Since I imagine you'll be plugging it into a DAP anyway if you're planning to walk around the house with your headphones on, unless of course you're planning to use your phone

>>58321006
It'd be my phone and tablet for the portable use.

I know most headphones doesn't really need an amp. But my budget for a portable dac/amp is 200usd so if I can, why not? It'd be another amp I got to compare things with.

>>58321276
>But my budget for a portable dac/amp is 200usd
but the places I checked them they were 300 or more

also, why waste money, keep it for a rainy day, treat someone you like, spend it on something else or something

Hello everyone, I am looking at purchasing a new set of headphones but I don't know much about them.

>Budget
Around $100 but the cheaper the better
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop computer for general use
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
High comfot, much more important to me than sound quality. I have a large head so this can be a bit of a hurdle

I'm currently looking at audio Technica ath-m30x, thoughts?

>>58321368
shit

what's your preferred type of music
Or will it mainly be used for gaming/movies

>>58321401
Mainly gaming, movies. I'm not an audiophile or anything so I don't need the highest imaginable sound quality

>>58321423
Cont: mainly what I want is a sturdy, comfortable, decent sounding pair of headphones

>>58321423
have a look around for HI2050 or clones thereof, such as ISK HF2010 or Omnitronic SHP-600

alternatively, save up a bit more and get DT770 80 ohms
They're very comfortable, very well built and have a good V shaped sound

>>58321465
Thanks for the advice anon, I'll check those out

>>58321471
if you want something now, consider the hyperx cloud (not the cloud II it's worse and more expensive)
it's a version with a detachable mic of the closed version of the takstar hi2050 (takstar pro 80)
however, if you can use open, I feel it's worth it to get open instead

although the mic might help you out if it's mainly for gaming, since it allows you to use a single cord

if you're going to get the hi2050/clones, look ou tfor fakes, because you'll most likely have to order from chink sites like aliexpress, raising the chances of fakes to "pretty high"

>Budget
500-900

>Location
Europe

>Source
Pc, phone via a DAC

>Type of headphone
IEM

>Sound signature
Maybe something that is excellent in the lower regions.

I mainly listen to music where the bass is well made, electronic.
But I also listen to a lot of classic music, not much vocals.

Which type of driver would fit me best?

>>58321465
Can strongly recommend the dt770's 80 ohms, paired with my e12 amp, oh wow.
I've never had so many soundgasms for years.

>>58319956
burn in. leave them on for a couple of hours and they should be good

>>58321907
meme

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>>58321907
I thought burn in was a meme

>>58316113
>what is bone conduction

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Brought these as I've heard nothing but good things about them from a friend. Did I fuck up my first headphone purchase?

How are the new HD5X9 headphones? There's not a ton of reviews for them and the prices are steep because they're new, but I'm still keeping an eye on them.

>>58322112
judging from nothing but the looks, I get the feeling they're bass monsters made for niggers

as this is the second result, I guess I'm right
http://www.head-fi.org/products/jvc-kenwood-victer-stereo-headphones-ha-sz2000-japan-import/reviews/10629

Now the question is if you're a nigger

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>tfw my headphones didn't come in today either

>>58322203
I am black and the friend in question is also black. I don't actually listen to rap maybe a few tracks here and there. I mostly listen to video game soundtracks (Jrpgs and fighters) and some pop music. Are these headphones inefficient for this need? If I am able to return these what would you recommend instead?

Would this be the right thread to ask about buying a new set of speakers?

>>58322355
After two weeks my headphones are out for delivery today... but I sent them to work, and I'm working from home today.

Going to be so happy to commute tomorrow.

>>58322389
try em out, since you're black you might like em

if you don't ,check out dt770 80 ohm

>>58319280
Never heard of anyone having an issue even remotely like that. You may have an allergic response to one of the materials used on the headphone.

>>58319280
I'm not joking
go see an ear specialist about this

>>58321907
Burn in ain't going to change that. At most bass response may get slightly fuller.

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>>58322389
>I am black
Get out.

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Can anyone tell me what headphones these are?

>>58322460
What you got coming in boiii

>>58323047
Looks like the Satoshi Nakamoto 1126's

>>58323047
is this a thinly veiled gaki thread?

>>58323127
lol I just got my friend that I'm asking for, with the same joke basically.

>>58323150
If you want it to be. I'm just asking for a friend, what headphones these are.

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>>58323059

>>58323004
No.

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>>58323047
>decide to check jap sony page
>this is up on their home page
I uhh

>>58316113
OP pic related
Being half beast half man, these beings share mixed properties of the two species. Though their hearing is not as great as their animal counter part. It is still superior to human hearing. To compensate for this as demonstrated by Arthur, headphones are shifted to a more comfortable hearing position.

What are some alternative FLAC sites?

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>>58323047
I'm not sure but I think it's Sony's MDR1** line
maybe MDR1ABT, though the hinge in that pic seems to be chrome

>>58323331
Thank you, I JUST found them too. Thee are def it.

>>58322203
>>58322389
Like pottery

Why do Niggers like bass so fucking much?

>>58322389
>>58323004
>>58323347
I don't think this has anything to do with race.

I'm of Armenian descent and I personally love bass.

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>>58323364
>Armenian

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>>58323347
for the same reason they love robbing people and raping women
>>58323364
you're basically a nigger as well

>>58323345
>>58323331
yeah in this pic you can see the hinge looking like chrome

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>Budget
Preferably £50 or less simply because I anticipate the headphones being abused due to travel so i'd rather not spend shitloads but iumtimately i'm flexible.

>Location
UK

>Source
MP3 player, shitty office pc

>Type of headphone
Some sort of inner ear


>Comfort level
Pain lets me know i'm not dead

>Sound signature

Definitely something on the bassier side of things as I will primarily be listening to various extrem e metal and industrial music.

>Past headphones

DT770's which are obviously in a different class are fantastic.

Webm unrelated - I just like posting it.

>>58323436
e10

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>>58320007
>Hi /g/urus, remind me, why bad headphones can't be fixed with equalizer settings? It is all about frequency response isn't it?
It mostly is but not all headphones can reproduce frequencies correctly. And that's the biggest issue.

Cheap headphones simply can't switch frequencies fast enough to reproduce accurate sound so the sound they produce sounds weird.

Biggest secret of high-end headphone world is that more expensive headphones can reproduce all sounds accurately and fast enough and they only differ in which frequency ranges their construction is designed to emphasize.

So, for example, you could take a Sennheiser headphones and make them sound like AKG, for example. All you'd need to do is mess with EQ and match the response curves.

Stupidest headphones are V-shaped sound ones because you can take any high-end headphones and make them into V-shaped ones with 10 seconds of EQ adjustment yet you can't easily turn V-shaped ones into neutral-sounding headphones.

>>58318603
Reported for announcing a report :^)

>>58316113
nice meme

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Is there any major difference between the Fulla and the Fulla 2 to warrant spending an extra $40 on the latter?

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>>58323047

>>58323688
Are you retarded? That's not how it works.

>>58324142
yes, the fulla is complete garbage
if you want to save money, get e10k instead of fulla2

>>58324142
MUCH better knob, line out features, option to not use USB as a power source, [which is incredibly useful] and an actual desktop form-factor.

I assume improved circuitry, but I'm not sure.

OG Fulla is only worth it if you're using it off a laptop on the go. or an OTG'd phone. Even then I'd replace the knob on the POT.

>>58324142
The fulla 1 is meant to be a portable dac amp and the fulla 2 is meant to be a diet schiit stack that is very competetive with the e10k.

>>58324224
>>58324226
I see, thanks. Guess I'll go with the Fulla 2 then.

>>58324199
I was considering either the Fulla/Fulla 2, the E10K or the Origen but I much prefer having the volume knob on top so I'll probably go with the Fulla 2 or Origen.

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>>58324191
>Are you retarded? That's not how it works.
but it is.

>>58324291
>but I much prefer having the volume knob on top
why? it's so much easier to turn the horizontal knob with the tips of your fingers than to fuck around with a vertical one. I don't currently have E10K but I remember it being extremely easy to turn with not much pressure. You can adjust volume with one finger easily.

Ordered a pair of Philips 9500's last week and they came in yesterday. I'm really happy with them so far. The hype about their coziness is real, and the sound is really good, too. This is my first non-Walmart-tier pair of headphones so I'm hardly any expert, but I'd recommend them. Also for open headphones, I find that there isn't a ton of leakage (I'm not blasting these to be fair).

>>58323688
Stop posting.

Picked myself up some he400i's for $200.

Good or nah?

>>58324591
Yeah, they're pretty good.

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>>58324590

>>58324591
>>58324675

Sound is good, build quality and customer support is shit.

>>58323688
That's both vague and wrong.

Think for a moment what happens if a headphone driver can't move fast enough.

Price and brand aren't related to it.

>>58324782
>Think for a moment what happens if a headphone driver can't move fast enough.
But I did explain that. Can't you fucking read? Almost all high-end drivers do move fast enough and can reproduce any frequency desired.

>>58323688
>So, for example, you could take a Sennheiser headphones and make them sound like AKG, for example.

Not quite. You still have to factor in resonances, space between driver and ear, size of the housing which affects pressure and all that.

You could get damn close, but not quite perfect.

I do agree that people under-estimate EQ though. A good parametric EQ can change a good headphone into a fucking incredible one.

>>58324881
No, you didn't explain anything beyond making a wrongful correlation between market status(high end, expensive) and sound.

I'll make this easier: if the headphone driver can't move fast enough, what happens to the frequency response? How will it look like?

>>58324922
>>Not quite. You still have to factor in resonances, space between driver and ear, size of the housing which affects pressure and all that.
>
>You could get damn close, but not quite perfect.
If you spent some time adjusting it, you'd have really hard time telling the two apart.

I think most people would notice the fit and clamp pressure and pads design/material more than sound by the time you're done.

>I do agree that people under-estimate EQ though. A good parametric EQ can change a good headphone into a fucking incredible one.
Very true.

>>58324948
again, you're building up the fucking strawman argument with "if the driver can't move fast enough" bullshit. I just fucking told you that it can. Every high end driver is made from good neodymium magnets with lots of thin wire coils and good diaphragm membranes and those can reproduce every frequency from few Hz to 30kHz really well. It's not fucking magic and pixie dust.

Only headphone shills are trying to make it sound like it's something extremely complex. It's fucking not.

And almost all headphones are SEVERELY overpriced. There's less than $30 of material and labor in all high-end cans.

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Did I fall for a meme? Also how durable are these?

>>58325122
no you didn't

>tfw koss portapros came in the mail
feels good man.

>>58325319
>he fell for the meme

>>58325011
I'm not building an argument, I wanted to make you think. I have a problem with the idea that headphones respond differently to EQ because the (cheap) drivers aren't fast enough or by your words "can't switch frequencies fast enough". While the speed of the driver is ultimately a limiting factor too, it only limits the upper extension of the response and does nothing to the band below it(the band you will be equalizing). Most headphones are not limited by their extension to high frequencies. Many cover audible spectrum completely, even the cheap ones. It's mostly the BA-driver in-ears which tend to to have trouble extending to 20 KHz but even they can be equalized fine. You just can't make them extended any higher.

Strong phase cancelation is just about the only thing which separates headphones in terms of how they respond to EQ while the lower and upper extension is defined by physical limits like power compression, voice coil thermal limits and excursion limits as well as pressurization in the band below driver's resonance.

You also mentioned accuracy and high end headphones, yet another thing which doesn't go hand in hand.

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Why haven't you embraced the fact that the X2s are better than your hifimangs and snapheisers?

>>58325674
>classic/modern
wtf this even mean

>>58325710
Are you literally retarded? Classical music and modern music.

>>58325691
wow she is qt

Are MDR-1As the best choice if i want a portable closed back under $200 or is there anything better? Would mostly be for electronic and jpop.

>>58325782
>she

>>58325691
hello black man!

>>58325924
DT770 pro 80

alternatively, MSR7 if you're EU, K553 ( https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open ) if you're NA

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Is this a meme

>>58326343
are you a fag?

How come I dont see too many closed headphones in the 800usd range?

I want it nice and quiet but everything I see getting recommended in that range are fully open.

>>58325674
How is AKG K712 not there?

better sense than the hd600

Is there a good portable DAP that is better than a cellphone? under 500 usd?

>>58326611
what do you see as better?

>>58326666

audio quality and EQ mostly, also i hate the increments in audio on my android phone, 1-15 from 12 to 13 it increases a lot

>>58326717
ehh probably not
the advantages are mainly better amps & probably more storage
also I'm not sure if phones can play higher bitrate shit yet or not if you're into that

wewlad
i got some M50's
time to swap pads and kill the highs in these bastards.

was a good deal so im not booty bothered
i know /hpg/ hates these things, but they're not THAT bad. certainly uncomfortable as fuck, and the highs are somehow more sibilant than my 770's, but theyre not awful. i certainly wouldnt have bought them for full price. they'll be a good portable pair though after mods. sound quality is acceptable

>>58316127
I like my 650s, but this post is garbage

>>58326756
shuld have gotten m40x

>>58326846
Didnt want neutrality
and they were $60 AUD second hand. m40x are nearly double that new

>>58326746

is there any benefit from higher bit rate? 192/24bits?

>>58326924
bitrate, yes

bit depth, no
24 bit as much as youll ever need

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How do y'all feel about wireless? I have only had a good experience so far with a pair of Sony h.ear on wireless headphones and a cheap little aptx dongle for my pc. That and this blue-green looks pretty sick in person.

>>58326924
some say yes
some say no
if you got the space, I'd say there's no reason not to, but you shouldn't go out of your way for it

>>58326954
tumor machines

>>58324331
You aren't taking into account other factors that are equally important, such as driver's size (larger drivers like 50mm ones can reproduce bass with more impact) and the build/materials/acoustics of the cups, which once again have a major effect on the sound. Sure EQ can help but it isn't some fucking sorcery.

>>58326468
are you a fag?

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>>58326985
>I'm allergic to radio waves

>>58327023
you could have made a nice meme and used a pic of Chuck McGill but you fucked up

>>58326954

The FR is usually shit on wireless

>>58327095
Functional range? Yeah, signal goes to shit after ~5 meters away from receiver. Probably even less with my phone.

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>>58316548
Yep.

>>58325674
>God Tier
I'm ok with this

>>58326945
>>58326985

Ok, not every music is encoded that way right? seems like a lot of hassle to focus on that.

>>58325331
Is it a meme if I like them?

>>58327120

Frequency Response dude

>>58327265
not him, but usually not really
often more expensive wireless headphones employ DSP and other shit, which leaves them with quite a good frequency response

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masterrace

>>58316113
sony MDR 7506

are you idiots still buying aural monitors?

>>58323436
>ballisticNG
ayy

>>58326293
You realise open headphones are incapable of having too much bass? Also comparable sound is kinda a 2.1 setup with an decent subwoofer for music. If you think X2s have niggerbass you havent heard them, bass notes are very clear still.

>>58326985
>some say yes
>some say no
theory says no. ABX blind tests say no.

>>58327641
>You realise open headphones are incapable of having too much bass
How much meth are you on dude.

>>58327378

Not sure, i often seen the FR of the more recommended headphones and there are at mosr V-shaped

>>58328355

sorry for my shit english

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>>58316548

>>58328355
Because wireless headphones are being marketed toward the more casual consumer. Audiophiles rarely buy wireless headphones in comparison. Most consumers tend to prefer V-shape, whereas most audiophiles don't as much.

Preference isn't the same as a shit FR either.

>>58318107
m40x is probably much better value than the m50x considering it's more neutral, same build quality, and cheaper.

I got to listen to the hd579 though(i don't know how similar they are to 559) and they sound phenomenal

what's wrong with my ears if I actually enjoy HD598 Cs?

>>58328579
Nothing, I like mine too. Ignore the haters.

>>58328447

No i meant at most achieve an ok V-shape, and these models are above the 300usd, a lot of FR have big deeps on the voices and highs, i guess you are right in your statement these are not for audiophools

>tfw another sleepless night without my new headphones

>>58320114
>built in DAC

...the fuck? Isn't that just transferring the signal between two DACs?

>>58329111
No. It presumably uses a separate cable for digital transfer.

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>>58325674
isn't 681 superior to 668b? Judging by graphs they look flatter and have less ringing and distortion.

>>58329169
but why?

>>58329214
No fucken idea desu.

>inb4 leddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/48dhsq/well_after_two_years_of_interest_in_this_hobby/d0lg9fo/

Bear with me for a moment, is this poster's points on why multibit is snake oil true?

What are some good programs to change my equalizer with?

I have a feeling messing about with it would make these headphones good, but I need to try.

>Budget
max 500$
>Location
australia
>Source
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
comfortable to wear for long periods
>Sound signature
not too versed in sounds signature but i like bass but im not chasing after it, yaknow? i dont mind if its neutral but i want to listen to rap and DnB or smthn
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x

I play games and listen to music probably 50/50. I was looking at DT 770s, HD598s, and HD600s. I am also willing to buy a amp/dac but i dont know shit about them.

>>58332734
sorry
>source
PC

HD600 or 400i?

HiFiMAN's customer service is apparently terrible, but the 400i is quite a bit cheaper than the HD600 and I'm interested in the planar sound. But the described "non-fatiguing" sound of the 600 sounds nice. Is the 400i harsh?

Will be used for general use with my PC like videos, games, music (rock and, hip-hop), etc

>>58332946
I would go with HD600 even if they're an outdated meme. Chinkman headphones somehow manage to have even worse build quality than snapheisers and their customer support is non existent.

>>58332946
Yeah no jokes on warranty or servicing from Chinked-fiman. You're shot out of luck with Hifimans chinkery if something goes wrong.

Anyone tried the new monoprice planars? I'm tempted, even if open/closed in the same headphones seems kinda bullshit.

>>58332998
>shot
Correction *shit out of luck

>>58332965
>>58332998

Yeah, I'm just going to go for the 600, thanks. I'm certain I will like them, I prefer neutral for everything, even genres like hip-hop. At least with those I can return them if I don't like them.

Too bad I don't have the patience to just wait for the HDXX to drop again, but then again they're not as neutral anyways apparently.

>>58317051
Fucking dipshit bought from Amazon, got mismatched drivers and didn't swap it them out. baka

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>>58319236
Get some decent music with good mastering. 99.9% of weeb music has terrible mastering.

>>58332734
If you liked the sound of your M50x and didn't feel they were too bright, get 990's [600 ohm if possible] and an amp.

>>58317141
>tfw starving asian
>tfw x2 is excellent and should be the new bar for all headphones to come build-wise and sound-wise

I use my thx-00PH and PM-3 more since I have more closed-back situations but I won't diss my dust-collecting x2. The vice on my hd6xx is trying to decapitate me.

>>58330922
Yes. You should check his posting history.

>>58318603
Fully clothed? Cmon, moralist.

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are these any good?

my DT770's died today (cord got snagged onto something a few weeks ago and the wires finally got fucked) after like 4 years of heavy use, i'm looking for something similar that has a detachable cord.

>>58333619
DT 1770 Pro.

>>58333619
They're decent. Bass is on par with 770's, but the highs aren't as present and the mids are slightly more recessed. Its down to preference.

Also, stock pads aren't great, but you can put 770 pads on them anyway.

To be honest, just solder in a 3.5 female jack onto your 770's. It costs like 3 bucks and you get a removable cable.

Or was it the wires that connect each cup to eachother? If then just solder in a new one.

>>58333440
Which posts in particular?

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>HM5 hybrids
Absolutely perfect.

My LP2s are on the mail. Can't wait.

Went from Beyerdynamic DT990 to Sennheiser HD6XX and I like the Sennheiser better.

Fight me

>>58334548
Went from HD600 and HD650 to X2 and I like them more.

>>58333619
sound wise they're inferior to DT770's.

spend a little more and go with AKG K712's.

Which sub 100 euro in ears should i buy. My e10s just died

best v shaped closed back over ear headphones under $300?

>>58334739
770's.

>>58334754
which ohm should I get? I want the best bass

>>58334785
250

>>58334785
80 ohm if youre using them off a phone
250 if youre using them off a modern motherboard
600 ohm if you have an amp

>>58334804
would I be able to run the 250 off a Fiio Q1?

also I can't find the 600 ohm DT 770 anywhere it seems

>>58334858
Yeah, It should run fine off a Q1

>>58334870
awesome, now time to hunt for them on ebay/ craigslist, thanks!

>tfw mdr-v6
feels fucking great man
i feel like they're slept on in this thread
best headphones <$100

I need an explanation about pads.
How big is big? If big enough am I suppose to put my ear inside? Is that suppose to happen naturally and not with any extra effort? I guess I have bigger ears and I am confused as to how this is suppose to work.

What pads can I get that are bigger than stock ones of the m40x and more isolated (even it means losing some bass or something)?

>>58334906
I'd say still get 80 ohm, they're practically the same as 250 but you cna use them on the go

>>58334962
it's really fun going slowly deaf

>>58316127
i have 598s what am i missing?

>>58335365
lighter wallet

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>>58335365
Treble extension past 10kHz but it is still there u know. It's only 5dB down inbetween 10kHz and 20kHz. Diminishing returns is what you are missing out on.
HD 598:
http://en.goldenears.net/8494
HD 600:
http://en.goldenears.net/8072

>>58335285
Over ear pads should be able to fit your entire ear into them. Maybe a bit of earlobe under the pad if its a circular pad. A good rule is the three knuckle rule. If you can fit three knuckles into a pad verticaly, you can /generally/ fit your ear into it. Though this can be different if your ears stick out far, or your ears are a lot larger.

Nice larger pads for the M40x would be Brainwavz HM5 pleather pads. Theyre a lot thicker, and have alot more room and comfort. If you have more money you could go for ZMF Lambskins or Alpha pads, but they're over $50 USD. Real nice, but pricey.

>>58335551
So basically this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Electronics-Photo/Ear-Pads-BRAINWAVZ-Artificial-Leather-Straight-Black/B0148UEHQK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1483618256&sr=8-4&keywords=brainwavz+hm5+leather or this http://www.zmfheadphones.com/pads-and-cables/eikon-pads
The second one doesn't seem to let me add it to the cart with the first "add too cart" button. There is a second button that redirects me directly to paypal without asking for address or anything.

So should I understand that the ZMF's would be more isolating than the HM5's? Is there any danger of the pad being too big, meaning having too much empty space and is that going to be a problem? Though by size they seem about right.

>>58335493
HD 598 extends way beyond 10 KHz, even beyond 20 KHz. The coupler used to measure here isn't designed for accuracy beyond 10 KHz so you can't really judge anything about the amplitude beyond that point. You can see that there's bandwidth, that's it. On your ears the amplitude could be reverse but likely that region is dominated by a sharp peak(s).

>Budget
800$
>Location
Europe.
>Source
Pc.
>Type of headphone
Fullsize, over ear.
>Open or closed
I'd prefer being able to not hear the things around me, but if it hurts the overall "quality" so to speak, I'd go open.
>Comfort level
They're gonna be worn 4hours+ every day, so they have to be comfortable. But from what I have understood, you can get third party ear pads?
>Sound signature
Of the things I listen to, a good sub bass is preferred but I listen to so many different things I think a balanced signature will do best.

>>58336196
Used/refurb/ex-display HD800.

Most comfortable earpads that fit on Sony 7506?

>>58336665
Not too keen of used headphones.

Speakers, sure, headphones.. In my eyes it's like buying a used fleshlight.

>>58316127
One day, one day...

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These or momentum m2 for rock music

>>58337209
>He buys new fleshlights
Look at you mr rich guy

Should I buy a DAC/Amp for the SHP9500 or are they fine from my motherboard?

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what are the best in-ear's you can get for $25

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>>58337654
Xiaomi hybrid pro hd

http://www.head-fi.org/t/825485/xiaomi-in-ear-headphones-pro-hd-2-1-hybrid

>>58337740
"I bought this it's good guys believe me"

>>58337841
https://www.amazon.com/MEE-audio-Sport-Fi-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B0038W0K2K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483630775&sr=8-1&keywords=Meelectronics+M6

>>58316113
are there anything like open-ear iems? I like to listen to podcasts and stuff but I ride my bike to work. It's not safe to listen with normal iems because they isolate you from sound so much. And bluetooth speakers annoy people with music, and would look fucking retarded with a podcast.

>>58337400
Please reply

>>58337871
Zero information.

>>58334962

These are great, it was the first headphone i loved without the need of turning up the volume, the bass is specially good on them

>>58337654
>>>/csg/

>>58337400
These.

>>58337209
If the product is barely used it's fine with me. As for your recommendation... HD 800 might not be the best sub bass out there.

>>58337209
imagine buying a used fleshlight, which saves you 200$
but you can buy the sleeve for 10-20$

>>58336196
HE 560

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>>58337209
I'm super OCD (I'll sleep on the floor rather than my bed if I'm too tired to shower before hand) and got my HD800 ex-display. I cleaned the metal and plastic with isopropol alcohol and washed the fabrics with detergent, they look and feel brand new.

Fuck paying retail.

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New toy arrived today! Using it for my Fidelio X2, I wonder if I'll notice any difference if they've had a few hours on em.

>>58338529
Same. You can also buy replacement pads etc. And there's amazing deals sometimes when people just never use their headphones and want to get rid of them quickly. Im buying some HD600S for $160 tomorrow off a friend.

>Budget
anything that is not a meme but preferably <100
>Location
Italy is in EU so amazon
>Source
gaming, heavymetal
>Type of headphone
full, detachable cable so I can fall for those boompro memes
>Open or closed
I guess open so I'm not completely lost
>Comfort level
decent, gaming could go on for 3 or 4 hours I'd rather keep the experience positive
>Sound signature
heavymetal and edgy videogame sounds
>Past headphones
tritton axpro, the one with the hard 5.1 (sue me)

>>58338665
>>Source
>gaming, heavymetal
kek
just get a dt770 & desk mic bro
if you want V shaped open headphones, you'll have to get an amp as well

>>58338529
>>58338622
Well okay that's true, the earpads are what deters me the most.

>>58338453
>>58338498
Arent the He-560 lacking in the bass too?
I've been looking at those for a while now, but after reading/watching a lot of reviews, most recommend getting the 400i instead.

>>58338749
>dt770

no detachable cable tho
also studio or monitor?

>desk mic

already ahead of you, going to get one of those cheap but praised (on amazon reviews at least) zalman ones

>>58334962
Mine finally shipped!
But they're not going to be here for a full fucking week, fuck fuck fuck.

>>58338857
>no detachable cable tho
>already ahead of you, going to get one of those cheap but praised (on amazon reviews at least) zalman ones
well if you get a desk mic you don't NEED a detachable cable, sure it's nice, but you don't NEED one

studio is prob best, IIRC the M version is just with leather pads tho

>>58337899
Bose SoundSport are perfect for that.

Is there even a low budget headset that's not total garbage ?

>>58339392
8323
th02

>>58321721
Look into "1more triple drivers"

>>58316113
How do you think Arthur keeps his glasses on? Glue on the side?

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>>58338549

How do they sound vs un-amped? The X2 is a very efficient headphone, not sure why you'd need one, especially a cheaper tube amp. Unless you want them even warmer.

>>58339537
neither of those has a mic, I though headset stands for headphones + mic

>>58340393
>unamped
in other words not being plugged into anything

>>58340419
HyperX Cloud is still the recommendation and still quite nice.

>>58340419
>>58340419
in that case
>Is there a headset that's not total garbage ?
yes, one, see >>58340509

whats the name of this equalizer program, apo or something?

>>58340581

this one?

https://www.amazon.it/Kingston-HyperX-Cuffie-Gaming-Mobile/dp/B00JJNQG98/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483645844&sr=8-2&keywords=hyperx+cloud

>>58341424
Yes. That's a great price.

>>58341319
With those you could've just found it already. Equalizer APO.

>>58341424
yes

>>58341689
just found them

using origen, it's fucking perfect.

>>58341652
>>58341694

so for a gaming/streaming setup would you go for the hyperx or the dt770?
it's 66€ against 122€ on amazon.it

>>58335778
Yeah, that's the HM5 pad. You can also order them from Brainwavz themselves, or MP4nation. Both should have free shipping.

The ZMF you linked is the larger one for stuff like Beyers or AKG. The one you want for M40x are these:
http://www.zmfheadphones.com/pads-and-cables/zmf-oval-earpads

Not sure why you're having issue with the store though.

The ZMF lambskins maybe a bit more, only because theyre a thicker pad. The cowhide may isolate more as Its a thicker material. Don't get the protein pads.

More space between your ear and the driver /can/ have negative affects, though it is typically just low end suffering a bit. You trade that off for god tier comfort.

>>58316113
>>58316127

Hey /g/, I have a set of HD-650s and I'm trying to find a decent desktop DAC/AMP for them.

Ideally, $100-$250 since I just want a bit more clarity and bass.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

I've seen the FiiO E10K but it seems to be a maymay that they can drive 650s.

>>58341896
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-650/with/fiio/e10k

>>58341837
Up to you. One has a mic.

>>58341881
Ordering the ZMF seems like it would cost even extra money, because it will have to be shipped from the US. So sadly the HM5s might be the better choice price-wise.

>>58341881
>>58342268
Oh yeah, and thank you.

Massdrop is having an Objective 2 drop for 80$ btw
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-o2-amplifier?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open&

>need to pay 15$ extra for rear mounted power
every time

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>>58342771

>>58338808
If you really want something open and bassy get the X2
Not as expensive as you want but it has Excellent built quality & bass. V shaped though.

>>58342938
damned ratto

>>58341988

well, one is double the price of the other
that should count..also a standalone mic, the zalman one, is like 6€

>>58341837
one is an okay pair
one is a good pair
if it's worth it is up to you