/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>58295626
Install BSD, GPL is cuckold communist trash.

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>mfw freetards spouting out all MUH FREEDUMB but using botnet google captcha to post on a closed source proprietary imageboard software

>>58295666
This, Linux cucks are hypocrites.

I'm using Arch Linux, if it matters.

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>>58295656
>communist
GPL wouldn't work without copyrights. Are you saying copyrights are communist? Besides, who uses 'communist' as an insult in fucking 2017? Is it fucking throwback day or something? pic related

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>>58295626
>"Free software... Free society"

But but but, in such a society I should be FREE to run whatever OS and software I want, and if that happens to be Windows then what, I get slammed and lambasted because I exercise my FREEDOM to run whatever the fuck I want.

So fuck you and your so-called freedom, and I say that because I'm FREE to do so.

>>58295719
Fat kike stallman wants it to be a crime to sell proprietary software or DRM. BSD is true freedom.

How long do these intro meme waves usually last?

>>58295708
It has always been an insult and will remain as such as long as there is at least one sane human on this planet. Sane of course automatically excludes communists.

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>>58295719
Yeah you're free to pay into Satya Nadella's yacht fund, and to continue holding back the computing revolution. You're FREE to do it! Now get your Windows bullshit out of the Linux thread.

>>58295739
till another thread is started

>>58295739
about 300-350 posts

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>>58295744
It's meaningless and your posts are only showing your insecurity.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

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>>58295755
Why are you crying? Did I strike a nerve? But Lincux truly is nothing but a cheap knockoff of commercial products like Windows and OS X.

>>58295788
In 2017 pretty much every Linux distro is relatively 'lightweight'. Ubuntu LTS is a great choice for ease-of-use.

>>58295785
Insecurity about what? I think you are projecting something here.

>>58295793
Don't forget BSD. It has a non cuckold license and has achieved more than Linux ever did.

>>58295809
GNU/Linux*

>>58295809
Oh yes, that goes without saying. I just didn't want to make him hurt himself or anything.

>>58295785
communism always sounds good on paper, but always goes to shit when real humans are added to the equation, so by calling you a communist he's insulting your corrupt nature

>>58295825
it doesn't and you are either completely retarded or just haven't read the very "papers" you are speaking of if you think this is even remotely true.

>>58295800
>any year
>linux is lightweight
no. lmao. just no.

>>58295793
Get it right, Linux is a knockoff of Unix. Windows and OS X are knockoffs of Xerox Star/Alto. Is that supposed to make them less worthwhile? The fact that they built on preceding technologies?

is sharing nonfree software communism?

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>>58295850
Depends what you compare it to I guess. Certainly lightweight compared to the current version of Windows.

>>58295852
BSD is the only pure OS left.

>>58295861
no, but forcing everyone to do the same certainly is.

>>58295878
That's great. So what version of BSD do you run?

>>58295877
Yeah. It's also lightweight in the "basic features support" department. Oh, and don't forget the "bug-free" department as well.

>>58295894
FreeBSD, it works great.

>>58295916
this. Have been running it for a few months now and I have to say that ditching leftist software never felt so great.

>>58295878
>>58295894
>>58295916
>using an """"OS"""" that doesn't even have usb support

Would a rolling release distribution like tumbleweed be bad for an SSD?

>>58295934
Freebsd is literally the best. Don't use it though I don't want your kind attempting to shit it up. You can stay with the Linux plebs

>>58295943
are you literally ratarded? serious question here.

Which distro should I use to dualboot with Windows 10 on a gaming desktop? I primarily want it for the C environment and to learn about Linux at my own pace. Previously used Ubuntu in a virtual machine, and Mint on a laptop. Liked Ubuntu more.

As long as the BSDs are relying on ports, I will not use any of them. When they get decent package management, then I'll consider it.

>>58295914
>Yeah. It's also lightweight in the "basic features support" department. Oh, and don't forget the "bug-free" department as well.
None of this is true

>>58295961
Dual boot is shit. Run Ubuntu Server LTS in a virtualbox/vmware workstation or do something with Xen.

>>58295966
yeah, good thing they already have literally the best package management system ever. don't use it though, i really don't want your kind attempting to shit it up.

Hey, I'm searching for "/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread".

>>58295979
sup, it's on this website or so i have been told
reddit.com

>>58295992
>knowing the website address
time to go back go

>>58295977
Ports is not "literally the best package management system ever". Ports is a glorified shell scripts that will fetch some source code from a mirror and compile it.

>>58296019
looks like you misread my post. it clearly says that it's the best package management system ever

>>58296033
Obviously you don't understand what a package management system is supposed to do.

>>58296033
You've never even tried BSD. I used BSD full time on the job about 14 years ago. It was good, and it's still good on the server side, but it has nowhere near the hardware support and user support of Linux.

>>58296047
Use packages if you want binaries. Ports are for advanced users that know what they're doing.

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>>58296066
>hurrrrrrrrrr I'm compiling from source, look at me, look at how advanced I am

>>58296047
can you read this post? >>58295977
in their it clearly states the obvious fact - ports are better
>>58296055
and why exactly would you need the hardware support for devices you don't have or will never have?
>You've never even tried BSD
also, how can you possibly claim to know this?

>>58296077
that's the thing though, you don't compile from source so you can't say that. stick to your binary packages.

is arch linux communism?

>>58296077
Now this is shitposting. OpenBSD for example highly encourages packages over ports so the mailing lists don't get shit up with questions.

>>58296099
>fetching configs and source from a mirror and then compiling
>"but it's not compiling"

Absolute retard

>>58296083
>how can you possibly claim to know this?
Because you didn't make even a single supporting statement to your claim that '[bsd] already [has] literally the best package management system ever'. It's obvious you have limited experience with it.

>and why exactly would you need the hardware support for devices you don't have or will never have?
Sounds like you know exactly what hardware you'll need for the rest of your life, and you never get any new hardware unexpectedly. Good for you, but that's an atypical use case.

>>58296116
you don't do it though so you obviously don't know what you're talking about. stick to your binaries as i have previously said.
>>58296123
i don't need any supporting statements for a fact to be true. this is pretty simple stuff. the truth of the fact isn't dependent on anything i say

This is supposed to be a friendly Linux thread.

Hostile and anti-social BSD shills that try to bully people into using BSD can take it elsewhere. Make your own fucking general.

>>58296152
>implying they aren't all just bored linux users trolling each others

>>58296139
>stick to your binaries as i have previously said
There is 0 support, so I'm pretty much fucking stuck with ports, thank you very much.

It's sucks balls.

>>58296152
We do and Linux cuckolds shitpost in them.

>>58296152
Fuck off, gnupleb. We are discussing real software here, not your play toys.

>>58296152
GNU/Linux*

>>58295959
I know a lot of read writes is bad for those drives.
Or are you just hating on OpenSUSE?

>>58296167
hmm... how can something which is literally the best suck balls? this is really puzzling to me

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>>58295788

Elementary OS has been my daily driver for the last six months, I have never used any distro for this long, and I have no intention of changing any time soon.

>>58296165
Well and newcomers see this thread, turn 360° and walk away

>>58296174
>>58296171
How can BSD shills get so butthurt?

>>58296171
>Linux cuckolds
You've been lurking /pol/ too much. BSD license is for cucks.

>>58296190
you don't have to worry about that too much if your drive isn't literal shit. it won't change much from your distro anyway.

>>58296193
nice blogpost

>>58296204
Linux is controlled by cucked kikes. BSD is uncucked and pro white and not controlled by kikes

>>58296191
>>58296139
>>58296083
>it sucks
>it's the best
>it's not the best what the hell are you talking about
>SHUT UP!!!! SHUT UUUUUPP!!! LALALALA IT'S THE BEST I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALA

Either false flagging or legitimate mentally ill. Can't tell.

>>58296228
>legitimately
now fuck off, linpleb.

>>58296226
>BSD
>pro white
lol

>BSD
>not controlled by kikes
You literally sign away every right and give the kikes the right to use everything without giving back.

>>58296239
here's where you are wrong, gnupleb. i don't write anything for bsd. i cuck EVERY system i use and don't give anything back.

>>58296238
No, go make your own fucking general.

>>58296264
guess what linpleb? you're in it right now

>>58296182
GNU+Linux*

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>>58296278
>>58296259
>pretending to be hardcore internet personas
>on /g/

>>58296306
>that file name
wew. i wonder which website this one came from

>>58296226
Linux is controlled by corporations you mean, as the entire kernel.org board of directors is like Qualcomm and Samsung execs.

In other news not related to the obvious /pol/ bait anybody hack on Hurd here or a different kernel completely than kernel.org/Sys-V/BSD?

>>58296322
yes i mean corporate kikes from samsung and qualcomm.
>different kernel
but H*RD isn't a kernel. it's a piece of shit desperately trying to be one, sure, but it ain't a kernel

>>58295788
lubuntu probs
puppy if you really want something super light

>>58296101
(You)

>>58296320
I saved it from 4chan and I named it laugh-milk.gif because I already have a laugh.gif.

????

>>58296390
likely story
>????
back to your shitty website

>>58295666 (You)
>>58295679 (You)
it's an evil beyond our control
we deal with it to the spread the message

>>58296206
Haha, just paranoid, that's all

>>58296239
>>58296322
Install Linux if you want spics and sandniggers in your country, cucks. Install BSD if you want a white tomorrow.

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>>58296435
>likely story
Glad you admit that.

>back to your shitty website
I'm already here????

>>58296465
But BSDs are maintained by literal sandniggers.

>>58296482
Which one, there is more than one BSD.

Are you commies gonna debase a beloved national monument this time?

You disgust me.

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>>58296482
How is you using non libre software going to help the "free software movement".Your individual actions mean nothing

>>58296506
meant for >>58296438

>>58296470
fake uniform.

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what is this shit?

>>58296560
judging by the quality it was probably made by some "free"tard in gimp

>>58296214

Thank you, don't forget to upvote, share, tweet and reblog my post.

>>58296578
I mean what's the purpose of that shit when the fsf exists?

>>58296604
well, it is more than likely a lot better just by virtue of not being the fsf

I'm trying out Xubuntu 64 bit in a VM Virtual Box setup right now,

Everything seems to be running pretty smooth, except for my mouse cursor. It is usable, but it's like flashing and a bit jittery. If I change the "Mouse Integration" setting, it gets considerably worse and basically unusable.

Any ideas for trouble shooting this?

I'm not sure if it belongs here or in /sqt/ but I have to ask.
Why can't I play .webm on Firefox anymore? I'm running it on CB++ if that helps.

>>58296948
I don't really follow your sentence structure at all, but yes nested VMs are possible.

>>58296839
Don't. Use Windows instead

>>58297049
>Friendly Linux Thread
>Trying out Xubuntu in Virtual Box
...
>Don't. Use Windows instead
oh..okay..

>>58296839
This is a problem I've always had with VirtualBox. Never managed to fix it.

>>58295666
It's also ironic how Stallman is the face of /g/

Why does windows take so long to restart?

>>58297296
It's the best OS and just has to load additional things which other OSes don't even have

>>58297358
thats a lie; you better watch where you hide your cheddar...

I don't need a swap partition on my SSD right? I have an extra HDD that I can put it on and everything will be fine?

g++ can't find sdl_ttf.h

what do?

>how do I into dependencies?

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I'm an electrical engineering major who wants to start using unix.

I was thinking about doing a hackintosh but maybe linux is right for me. what do you ya'll nice niggas think

>>58298811
desu no one is going to help you here unless you post feet so mull that one over I guess. Is it worth your dignity?

tryin' to change this year

>>58298294
What the fuck is the point of having speedy IO if you put your godamn swap on your HDD? Cmon man use your fucking brain.

>>58299262
Fucking stupid question roleplaying faggot.
I'm half awake.

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How do I change this, what ever it is, default file picker I have? I don't even know what the program is called.

It used to be alright but it was updated about a year ago after which searches have been terribly slow because it also searches all subfolders, and it has a really annoying bug with double clicks registering wrong. I want the old one back, or an alternative. Any ideas?

By the way, I know how to change it in Firefox, but not elsewhere, and the Firefox-only filepicker is too limited (has no search if I recall correctly, etc.)

>>58299319
Oh, and I'm using i3 on Manjaro Net Edition by the way. I used to have XFCE installed too but never used it - maybe the package is from that?

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>>58295708
if only sweet joe would rise from the grave to resume work purging the education system and media of the commie, america hating, useful idiots that have overrun it.

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is pkg config telling me that I have these sdl2 files and I'm a cuck that is pissing into the wind, or do I not have these files?

xubuntu 16.10 x64

>>58299578
I believe that should be <SDL2/SDL_ttf.h> instead of <SDL_ttf.h>.

>>58299611
Never mind actually since you've included /usr/include/SDL2 specifically. I don't think you need specify that path though, g++ should look there automatically (and if its the automatic look up, since its in the SDL2 directory, the file path must also contain the SDL2 part.)

>>58299629
I'm more concerned about the missing environment variables at the top.

I did a fresh os install, and repo'd all the sdl stuff, but I don't know if sdl2_mixer/image/ttf even exist.

I also just found out you can't paste things into the usr/include area. Not really surprised, I guess.

>>58299668
>I also just found out you can't paste things into the usr/include area. Not really surprised, I guess.
You should be able to do that as root. Anyway, sorry, I don't know much about Debian based distros' package management.

What distro should I learn after I get bored with Ubuntu?

I want to learn about my OS and have complete control over it but also eventually use it for productive things, should I do LFS or something like Slackware/Gentoo/Arch?

>>58299688
The issue was that I didn't have the appropriate libsdl2 packages installed. The compilation instructions wasn't specific to my distro so I had to search a bit and maybe downloaded more than necessary.

Should I pick Elementary or Zorin? I don't want Ubunto or Mint as my first distro.

>>58299958
What's wrong with ubuntu?

>>58300024
I think it looks ugly.

>>58300061
you mean unity is ugly, use ubuntu with a different desktop environment.

Or do you just not want to tell people you use a popular distro?

>>58295626

How much would a kickstarter need to generate to fund having Sasha Grey do an actual reading of that book on camera?

Is there any point in using apt-get over apt on raspbian?

New to coding here. ( C )

I'm currently trying to solve this challenge in a book which is

Create a program that prompts a user for a character name. Store the user's chosen name using the scanf() function, and return a greeting to the character using that name,

I don't know how to make it show more than one letter with the %c thing.

     char name;
    
    printf("\nHello. What is your name?\n ");
    scanf("%c", &name);
    printf("\nNice to meet you %c\n", name);
    return 0; 

I've tried running different Linux distributions on my laptop previously, but I've always experienced screen tearing. I'm guessing it may be due to having a Nvidia GPU (Geforce 840M).
However I want to give Linux another chance on my laptop.

Are there any particular distros which are better than others when it comes to this issue?

>>58300701
use fgets

>>58296839
use vmware

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I've used KeePass 2.x with Dropbox in the past on Windows computers. Has anyone tried KeePassX on Linux in combination with KeePass 2.x on Windows?

Does it werk or cause file corruption or something? Any other good KeePass clients?

>>58301267
KeepassX uses kdb files, Keepass2 uses kdbx files which aren't backwards compatible.
Me, I use Linux 90% of the time anyway so I just manage my passwords in the kdb file (KeepassX), then make a read-only kdbx copy for the Windows installation by importing the kdb file into Keepass2.

>>58301267
>>58301378
Only the old versions of keepassx use the kdb files. The newer Keepassx2 uses kdbx files only and offers a one way conversion for kbd files.

>>58301267
Also, there are no problems with using a kbdx file on both keepass2 and keepassx2.

>>58301378
>>58301443
>>58301451
Ok thanks

installed keepass2 now

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:jtaylor/keepass
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install keepass2

Be honest /fglt/, is fedora a good distro to use?

>>58301907
former fedora user, kind of.

I absolutely adore the package management and development tools for fedora.

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uuhh

>>58295708
Property is theft cuck

>>58302050
UK uses BST during the summer which is technically equivalent to GMT+1

>>58302050
just switch to cet/cest already you dumb poofs

>>58300717
ooboontoo offers 1-click installation for proprietary drivers and has newer kernels in it's main repo from next releases.

Basically you have access to the official drivers and new kernels so you can try out if the nouveau driver was improved enough or not.

Why does ubuntu automatically lock the root account if that's considered to be a bad thing?

>>58302131
1. it doesn't, it just doesn't have a proper password set up for it.
2. it's kind of a security measure: every linux system has a root user. If it's "unusable" because no password (note: no password=/=empty password) attackers cannot use it that easily, and your normal user account could be anything.

correct me if I'm wrong.

>>58302131
Ubuntu assumes (rightfully so!) that the user is dumb and does not have the mental capacity to remember two strong passwords, so instead they hope he will at least make the effort to remember one strong password.

General consensus actually goes towards sudo being the inferior solution period but as with most stuff it's balance between security and convenience.

>>58299262
>>58299269
Not him, but I can smell from here the greasy beard of your neck

>>58302131
It's actually a good thing. One less attack surface. sudo is the way to go.

You are all completely stupid. Debian is outdated and insecure. More over, it's just a noobuntu spin that was made to attract power users. All it's maintainers are SJW and the distro is sponsored by jews and the liberal media.
The Debian project shows through it's public statements and manifests that it's clearly no aligned with the moral Christian values that made the US the great nation it came to be.
It's degenerate.

Arch Linux is superior to it in every way. It has bleeding edge packages, what means more stability and security, since you get all the last bug fixes.
It's rolling release, it doesn't randomly breaks during version updates.
It's also more configurable and extensible. On overall you just have more control over your computer.
Anyone that is serious about their OS uses Arch.

>>58302020
Thinking about installing fedora to give it a try, how stable and good is GNOME? I hear linus hates it and would be fine with using a different DE if necessary.

>>58303614
>Linus
That guy doesn't know how shit works besides the kernel anyway.

>>58303614
fedora is the go-to distro when if you want to use gnome (similar to what opensuse is to KDE)

linus hates a lot of things, he rambled about gnome3 being shit but in the end he came back to it.

>>58300701
You want to make a character array, which is basically a string in C.

>>58303069
I know this is a troll post but fedora edgelords like you makeml me ashamed to use Arch.

>>58303637
But he does all those TechTips ?

So I've been using rsnapshot for over two years with great success, it has saved my ass several times.

My backup drive is full now however and I need to free up some space. I realise that rsnapshot works extensively with hardlinks which pretty much stops me from just deleting a few of the oldest backups.

Wat do? Can I just reduce the retention number and run the backup again or will it not delete folders?

Mac is just so much better. Is there even a serious reason to use Linux?

>>58304648
To post in this thread.

>>58304660
dont reply

>>58304675
y-you too!

>>58304660
I'm doing it just well from my Macintosh OS X.

>>58304648
Mac is a device, Linux a kernel, you a faggot.

>>58304694
So? Mac >>> Linux >>>> Windows.

>>58304684
You probably aren't enjoying it as much as me though.
I'm running Arch btw.

>>58304712
I'm enjoying it a lot. I even smile and laugh sometimes while using it due to the pure joy it gives me

>>58303637
>>58303647
What about the DE itself? How is GNOME?

>>58304719
And you can also watch anime on it just like you would on any other Linux

>>58304724
It's fine. Not anywhere near OS X though.

>>58304748
Doesn't wayland require GNOME to be the DE to use it?

>>58304769
No, I have used it on KDE so that can't possibly be true. You should still consider using a Mac though since they are infinitely better than anything Linux has to offer.

>>58304787
Linux offers DEs?

>>58304869
I've never really used GNOME before and wanted to know what all the fuss is about. I hope it's not meh like KDE is.

>>58304881
It's really shitty compared to Mac. Don't even bother.

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>run Ubuntu on virtual machine
>seems to work ok
>next time I load it up it hangs on a black screen forever
>can't find anything that actually solves the problem after 20 minutes I just end up reinstalling
>works ok for a while, doesn't do that again for whatever reason
>install gnome desktop because the default one is a bit crap looking
>go idle, gets stuck on lock screen and won't even give me log in prompt unless I enter the command line using a shortcut I had to look up
>go back to the default
>package search seemingly doesn't work if I search for more than one thing in succession
I am not good at computers

>>58304971
>I am not good at computers
nah, it's just that linkeks is a piece of shit and shouldn't be used under any circumstances.

>>58295800
If you want something really lightweight go for puppy linux or damn small linux.

>>58295943
No

>>58295961
Anything Debian based because that's what you have experience with.

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>>58299769
Install Gentoo, you'll get really frustrated but you'll learn hella while installing it.

Also portage is /based/

Anyone good with jq? I'm working on a script for parsing the 4chan api to get some random wallpapers from /wg/, works so far, except that I want to exclude desktop threads from the list for obvious reasons, so, how can I exclude objects with key values like "desktop" or "dekstop"?

>>58296839
Try disabling or enabling 2D/3D acceleration in the Virtualbox settings. Try turning off compositing if XFCE is using it.

>>58299769
definitely not arch, the else are a pretty good choice though I prefer gentoo myself because of portage.

>>58304724
It's a matter of preferences. Tried it and didn't like it.
Gnome2 was far better

>>58305152
why did you think this was an appropriate question for this thread?

>>58297296
It's closed source... so we will never know

>>58305160
Yeah, and OS X is even better. Try it as well.

>>58305172
Shell scripting isn't GNU/Linux related?

>>58305205
>jq
>objects
>shell scripting
huh?
please take your crap to some other shithole, i would suggest dpt

>>58299262
swap is just for when you run out of RAM or the system needs space to shuffle cached/non priority shit out of RAM.

A SSD will wear out even with wear leveling. Which is why he asked about it.

If you're using swap you don't have enough RAM or you're performing too man nuclear memory operations.

>>58299578
I don't know if you have the files or not... But I do know that you have a file pointing to a location they are not currently at. Or they are not named correctly.

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>>58295626
here op fixed ur stupid img

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>>58300658
I always use apt-get when using the command line.


They are very similar command line tools available in Trusty. apt-get and apt-cache's most commonly used commands are available in apt.

apt-get may be considered as lower-level and "back-end", and support other APT-based tools. apt is designed for end-users (human) and its output may be changed between versions.

Note from apt(8):

"The `apt` command is meant to be pleasant for end users and does not need to be backward compatible like apt-get"

If you want a more "pleasant" end user experience, then use a GUI interface for apt. I really like synaptic. Picture related

>>58305370
the picture is off on the original to anon

What do you faggots use to backup large volumes? I've been using rsnapshot but feel like the retention I set up is over the top so I'm thinking of starting fresh. I'm on ubuntu btw.

>>58305399
apt is faster to write, offers more information and most important: is installed by default.
Synaptic is aimed for a different kind of user I guess.

>>58305706
>I'm on ubuntu btw.
Damn man... Switch to Mac OS X or at least to windows

>>58305837
hahahahaha LOL epic meme breh!

>>58305958
lol why are you this mad?

>>58305837
Why exactly? It has all been set up almost two years ago and it has never as much as had a hiccup. it's been up for almost 200 days too.

So why in gods name would I go through the effort of changing OS? It's pretty much a fileserver, plex server and used to convert videos.

>>58305958
>>58306163
>yet another redditor newcunt feeding the trolls
ebun

fucking kill yourself both of you

>>58306179
Why are you so upset my man?

>>58306211
He is not 'your man'.

>>58306211
I'm a girl

>>58306231
*She

>>58306231
Okay brother.

>>58306287
>i'm a grill

>>58295626
For personal use would you rather install ubuntu lts or regular ubuntu?

I'm also open to other suggestions. I'm currently on ubuntu 16.04 LTS but my laptop has some audio issues with it and the fucking wireless connection breaks each time I suspend my laptop. I always have to restart the network manager.

>>58306491
ubuntu lts

>>58295852
Whoa faggot, you're confusing your OS and your GUI. Unless you're doing everything in CLI you best step the fuck off. OS X is literally just BSD with a shiny GUI.

That being said, OpenBSD + XMonad > everybodysFaggotShit

Gnupleb, I guess.
Are there any distro's that are friendly with amd (6480G) without installing fglrx?
Google says debian jesse and arch.
-using nautilus to manual root android

>>58306491
>>58306554
14.04 LTS if you hate systemd and 16.04 if you do like it.

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>yfw movie theaters use IceWM.
good taste or not?

Whats the best apt repository to install?

>>58306926
the default one of your distritbution probably

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Newbie Arch user here... have some questions for all you senpai:

1) What client is the best for AUR? yaourt?

2) I know that to update the system, I should use:

 sudo pacman -Syu

but how do I update AUR packages with yaourt?

3) I installed dconf with pacman to edit some of the GNOME and cinnamon settings but when I run it, it's empty. I'm guessing I'm suppose to send it some kind of a parameter but I'm not sure which or how.

Thanks!

ps: here's a nice 4K pape for your troubles.

>>58306343
I'm not your 'brother'.

>>58306952
Elementary has like 20 programs max. The Ubuntu one doesn't work.

>>58307002
Well what did you expect?

>>58306970
read the wiki

>>58307009
How it 'should just werk' but it doesn't.
Linux is shit thanks /g/ for shilling me into this.

>>58307028
So you went "I know I should try out linux!" and despite
every
single
fucking
recommendation
given you on this very board you decided
"And I'll install the shittiest distro I can find!"?

>>58307028
If you want 'it just twerks' then get ubuntu you pleb. How did you end up using whatever the fuck it is that you're using?

If a video game was made for ubuntu, what are the odds it will also work for debian, fedora, arch linux, gentoo, LFS, etc?

>>58307116
No odds. Just some retarded marketing thing.

>>58307116
you can't make a game "for ubuntu".

>>58307116
debian, fedora, arch linux, gentoo, LFS, etc are just toy distributions for hobbyists
ubuntu is the real linux and because the kernel doesn't matter anyway, we say ubuntu when we talk about linux in general

I swear to me fucking God this thread is either full of trolling or full of questions so fucking retarded I start to wonder whether they're part of the same trolling attempt made by exactly the same people

>>58307198
You could try answering his question instead of giving your worthless opinion that's irrelevant to the question.

Do you guys have Linux on a desktop or laptop?

>>58307198
>t. What mike shuttlecock is dreaming at night

>>58307198
>hey guys where's the public toilet i need to take a shit badly
>TOILETS ARE FOR SKRUBS AND TRYHARDS MAN REAL DEFECATION HAPPENS ON THE CITY SQUARE ON WHATEVER PATCH OF GRASS YOU CAN FIND

>>58307231
I know this must sound quiet odd, but I have it on my HDD.

>>58307233
It's Mark Shuttleworth not Mike, pleb.

>>58307159
Check any game on steam and Linux requirements will probably just be Ubuntu 12.02

>>58307282
>steam
found the cuck

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>>58307282
learn to read.

>>58307334
back to /v/eddit with you

>>58307334
You didn't answer the question. Why does 12.04 or whatever Ubuntu get used as system requirements?

How do I into tmux?

Heard it works really nicely with vim.

>>58307386
because normalfags can't into tech terminology

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>>58307376

So is there like a real reason to use this hobbyist trash?

>>58307386
because the ecosystem of linux is evolving all the time.

Putting "minimum ubuntu 12.04" is exactly the same sa putting "minimum windows 7".
It sets a certain threshold for your distribution to meet on the timeline of technologies used on linux for the software to work.
by putting 12.04 the developer can expect from you that in order for your stupid manchild hobby to work it certainly will need/make use of pulseaudio, it may need to be over a certain version of xorg or the kernel for it to work or other components of linux.
you may soon encounter the number to be higher because games will be developed with wayland/mir in mind and older distributions that still use Xorg will not meet the requirement.


A child could figure it out.


>>58307437
like i said, fuck off back to /v/eddit or whatever shithole you crawled from buddy.
I don't give rats ass about videogames.

>>58307501
GNU/Linux*

>>58307501
>Stop talking about Linux software in the Linux general on the technology board
Kill yourself.

>>58307501
>because the ecosystem of linux is evolving all the time.
nah, linux is a piece of shit which is just poorly copying features from better and more successful operating systems like Windows and OS X

>>58307548
then stop trying to start a pointless shitstorm about an irrelevant windows-oriented software made by a business oriented on providing services for an audience that primarily uses windows with linux users as an afterthought.

noone fucking cares that you have a beef with steam and their shabby business practises.

but I know who cares,

you fellow manchildren at 4chan.org/v/

>>58307548
You cucks should be deported to some other board where you can discuss your cheap knockoff software all day long and let us discuss real tech here.

>>58307582
GNU/Linux*

>>58307498
No.

If you want fun/experimental operating systems, use Haiku or Plan 9.

If you want stable Unix, use BSD.

If you want user-friendly, use macOS.

There is literally no reason to use Linux or Windows. They're just pleb filters.

>>58307592
>steam
>irrelevant
lmao
certainly more relevant than lincux and i don't even use it myself
>linux users as an afterthought
yup, nobody cares about your shitty """OS"""

>>58307596
>>Ricing your gentoo installs is real technology
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Steam is the reason why year of desktop Linux will ever happen.

>>58307613
Thanks mate. I guess I'll do just that.

>>58307641
I just want to talk to somebody about real Unix OS.

Why /g/ is obsessed with Linux?

>>58307642
I don't use lincux though. Deport yourself to some other board please

>>58307641
good image. i wonder which website it's from

>>58307658
Well shit I looked in the catalog and guess what?
I found a thread just for you!
>>58307701
>>58307701

How do I just open and run tar.gz shit that I download in Fedora?

I am a linux babby. I just want it to werk

>>58295626
Why does everyone in my university use Ubuntu?

>>58307789
>I just want it to werk
It can't. Better stick to some more advanced OS like Windows or OS X. Linux is nothing more than a toy, it isn't meant to be used as a primary OS.

>>58307801
it's the most popular distribution

>>58307789
unpack it with file roller

>>58307658
Sorry, I meant GNU/Linux.

So I've been using ubuntu server for a while and I'm happy with it, it does what I want and need it to.

How do you faggots remember all the different options for the different tools? Is my only option looking shit up or making a cheat sheet?

>>58307913
I just use based OS X

>>58307913
memory, scripts, cheatsheets, notes, manpages

>>58307918
Fair enough. I was looking for a small footprint as a requirement.

>>58307937
I suppose if I had to use it intensely I would remember stuff but since I barely touch the machine it usually turns into a long ordeal of looking things up and hoping I don't fuck up along the way.

>>58307913
Usually aliases and fuctions for complex stuff. That said, I actually collect my oneliners in a text file so I don't blow up my shell configs. When I forgot, for instance, how to grayscale a picture with imagemagick, I just grep the file for the keyword.

>>58307981
>I suppose if I had to use it intensely I would remember stuff but since I barely touch the machine it usually turns into a long ordeal of looking things up and hoping I don't fuck up along the way.
the purpose of using linux on a server is to set it up, make everything happen on it's own and forget about it save for the occasional security update

>>58307987
See this is the kind of stuff that I mean. I roughly know what grep does but I don't really know how to use it creatively in a command anything longer than rsync -xyz or whatever. Is learning bash scripting basically what I'm looking at here?

>>58308006
That pretty much is what I wanted and it is what I got. I'm not knocking the way it is, I'm just curious as to how people work with a mostly CLI environment because it seems tedious but I'm ignorant to it's basic features.

>>58308040
>I'm just curious as to how people work with a mostly CLI environment because it seems tedious but I'm ignorant to it's basic features.
when you do something everyday it becomes a routine.

it's hardly your fault if you don't know how to work at speed you probably desire to work at if you use it 2 hours a week.

I recommend The Linux Command Line by Willian Shotts Jr.
it's available online as a pdf. Look for "second internet edition"

>Android cellphone
>Sanclip or Walkman mp3 player
>Gentoo Thinkpad

Is there, really, any reason to buy Apple products.

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>>58308040
Made this a while back for fun. Maybe it helps.

curl-tldr_retrieve() {
    curl -s "https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr/blob/master/pages/${1}/${2}.md" \
        | html2text -style pretty -width "${COLUMNS}" \
        | sed '/sloc/,/Jump to Line/!d' \
        | sed '1,3d; s/^\s\+//; $d'
}

curl-tldr() {
    request="${1}"

    response="$(curl-tldr_retrieve 'common' "${request}")"

    if [ -z "${response}" ]; then
        response="$(curl-tldr_retrieve 'linux' "${request}")"
    fi

    if [ -z "${response}" ]; then
        response='No results.'
    fi

    printf -- '%s\n' "${response}" \
            | grep --color -E "${request}|$"
}
alias tldr='curl-tldr'

>>58308069
>The Linux Command Line
>Linux Command Line
Would not read.

hey a long time Ubuntu user thinking of going Debian. Is stable usable? I'd like to run the same thing that I would recommend to normies and/or install for them.

are there any major cons of stable that you will notice in your day-to-day life?

>>58308224
too small userbase

>>58308156
I run gnu/linux but have an iphone. I tell myself that my information become a bit less of a product for google. also they look nice

>>58308281
just stick to ubuntu. Your dick won't grow larger because youre using debian instead of ubuntu
You will see no benefits from running debian unless your hardware is old but then again you can just slim down ubuntu and proceed with your life.

> major cons
no PPA

>>58308330
it's more of an ideology thing. i would imagine my dick to grow

>>58308330
>You will see no benefits
How about freedom.

>>58308435
not much from freedom if your hardware doesn't work without drivers isn't it?

and even if your hardware works without binary drivers, they're all kernel modules anyways.

your computer doesn't need them - the kernel doesn't load them.

>>58308469
>he thinks debian users can't install nonfree drivers

>>58308532
Where the fuck did I imply that?

>>58308469
Well it's not like that the kernel distribution is the only differnce.

>>58305228
So if I have 8gb ram and use my memepad for internet browsing and programming I shouldn't need to make a swap partition?

>>58308604
just put 8GB of swap so you can hibernate to disk

>>58308604
i have a 2Gib swap. theres always 4Mb stored.

Fed up with waiting for amdgpu-pro drivers that are compiled against the latest Xorg

How's the state of Nvidia proprietary drivers these days?

>>58308799
do you suspend your computer or use tty?

>>58308809
>do you suspend your computer
It's usually on 24/7
>use tty?
Sometimes

Just got a lenovo ideapad, the space isn't even enough to upgrade to 1607 update on win10, what distro of Linux should I use?

>>58308865
ubuntu

>>58308865
Windows 7

>>58308865
Ubuntu or Linux Mint for just werks

>>58308865
OS X

>>58308890
Will I have any driver issues? I'm new to linux...

>>58308898
Nice meme.

>>58308922
>Will I have any driver issues?
Yeah, linux is a fucking piece of shit that barely works. Don't expect to get it to even a slight semblance of stability within the first week.

>>58308922
it should work, just install the drivers.
ubuntu is your best shot when it comes to hardware compatibility.

but then again ideapad is consumer-tier trash so mileage may vary

>>58308964
>consumer-tier trash
what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? non-producer-tier trash?

>>58308978
lurk more

>>58309009
Ironic.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Consumer

>>58309009
are you implying you made every single piece of hardware you currently own?

>>58309031
>>58309064
lenovo ideapad owners confirmed.

lmao

learn the difference between a consumer device and a business device.
designed differently
built differently

>>58298294
zRam
>>58305228
This is not how paging file works.
Some applications write in swap constantly because of their architecture, and it it is not present, they can fail.

I really want linux to become better but it's still second or even third class tier trash. There is literally no reason to use it when OS X exists.

>>58308611
So 8gb swap partition on 256gb SSD or 1tb HDD in ultrabay?

>>58309446
always on the fast drive

>>58309423
>it needs to be my special snowflake desktop OS to be good
You are the cancer that is damaging GNU/Linux, warping it into something that it's not meant to be. This is why shitstemD and other poorly written bloated garbage is becoming rooted in the main codebase

>>58309561
Don't fucking reply to him.

Look up in this thread, everytime os x is mentioned ITT it's the same faggot baiting.
Just ctrl +f os x

>>58309587
I don't follow enough with the posts here to know
Sorry for feeding it

>>58309561
why though? I enjoy it a lot more than Linux.

>>58309561
I love systemd. What's so bad about it? I don't care about your ideals since I'm mainly a windows user.

---> >>58309747

>>58309446
Install zram