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Previously: >>58281001

Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

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hey, quick question about repos, I'm running ubuntu with apt, I know how to add repos to sources.list - what repos can I use apart from the default one? Can I just add the Kali repo or whatever to grab a couple of tools or will there be issues with compatibility?
Is there a way to search for compatible repositories?
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>>58289746
Use your search engine to look for 3rd party repositories for your distrubiton.

Yes there will be incompatibilities.
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>>58289746
>Can I just add the Kali repo or whatever to grab a couple of tools or will there be issues with compatibility?

You're better off using PPAs
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So I fell for the Arch meme. Spent the whole morning and half the afternoon trying to setup everything the way I like it.

Still, half the shit doesn't work right :(

1) When I "sudo vim ...", vim doesn't load up my vimrc or use any of the plugins. Not sure what the issue is... under Ubuntu, vim loaded up my local vimrc and plugs.

2) dnscrypt-proxy was a huge bitch to install. I still think it doesn't work right since I didn't properly edit the service file and just edited it directly because it was failing when I tried to do it properly. I'll have fun updating I bet...


3) lm sensors can't pick up my Nvidia fan and GPU temperatures. I tried running 'sudo sensors-detect' but for some reason, when I type 'sensors' I don't see nvidia at all

4) ran into some minor issue of not being able to install a package with yaourt... i
 yaourt cinnamon-applet-system-monitor
1 cinnamon/cinnamon-applet-system-monitor 1.2.0-2
Display system informations in Cinnamon panel, such as memory usage, cpu usage, network rates
2 aur/cinnamon-applet-system-monitor r53.abff13d-1 (0) (0.00)
Cinnamon applet displaying system informations, such as memory usage, cpu usage, network rates. Ported from gnome-shell extension
==> Enter n° of packages to be installed (ex: 1 2 3 or 1-3)
==> -------------------------------------------------------
==> 2


==> Downloading cinnamon-applet-system-monitor PKGBUILD from AUR...
==> ERROR: cinnamon-applet-system-monitor not found in AUR.


Any advice on the issues above?
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Should I install arch or should I fall for the guix meme? Also, how easy is systemd to use compared to the standard sysv init system. Coming from FreeBSD here
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>>58289746
You should avoid adding third party repos and PPAs like the plaque. They may (and mostly do) cause dependency hell. If you want something from outside the official repos, either use repos/PPAs your really trust or (better) compile it yourself and create a package for your distro (checkinstall).
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>>58290314
>Should I install arch or should I fall for the guix meme? Also, how easy is systemd to use compared to the standard sysv init system. Coming from FreeBSD here
How much Linux exp do you have? Do you have an SSD? Do you have a laptop?

Getting basic Arch up and running is fucking easy. You can consult Arch install wiki for a quick rundown.

But, getting more complex shit up and running and getting things done right will take you a day at least. Yes, shit breaks and doesn't work like Wikis tell you it does.
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>>58290314
start over with ubuntu
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How does /fglt/ defend itself against Black Arch hackers?
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>>58290368
I have the time. Also, I was really dead set on arch anyway. The archwiki is really usefull, even when using another distro.
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Lads.... I did a meme haha
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>>58290401
good luck then. have some fun but be prepared to start over... so don't be an idiot and do it on a HDD/SDD you have some important shit on.

also, disconnect the fucking SATA cable from drives you have important shit on. just leave a disposable HDD in.

or... just use virtualbox/vmware.
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>>58290346
>You should avoid adding third party repos and PPAs like the plaque.

>either use repos/PPAs your really trust

>compile it yourself and create a package for your distro
What do you think a PPA is?

>They may (and mostly do) cause dependency hell.
Maybe if you're a retard. Every PPA i've ever seen gives you a list of dependencies on the page. Never had an issue with them.
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>>58290294
> 1) When I "sudo vim ...", vim doesn't load up my vimrc or use any of the plugins. Not sure what the issue is... under Ubuntu, vim loaded up my local vimrc and plugs.
Because it loads it as if you were the root user, if Ubuntu can do that then Arch can too, I guess you'd have to change some permissions, just Google it.

>3) lm sensors can't pick up my Nvidia fan and GPU temperatures. I tried running 'sudo sensors-detect' but for some reason, when I type 'sensors' I don't see nvidia at all
Make sure you have everything set-up properly, if it doesn't work then create a post in the Arch forums explaining your issue.

>4) ran into some minor issue of not being able to install a package with yaourt... i
Tried installing it from my side and it worked with no issues whatsoever.
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>>58290438
I've been distro hopping recently since getting a new SSD, so I have no worries about starting over. Also, I have a 240 GB drive, but can only partition 220GB, wat do gee?
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>>58290468
>What do you think a PPA is?
A repo which contains program(s) compiled by literally who, which, depending on the PPA holders competence, may hold additional dependencies which cause breakage, which again cause crying newcomers.
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>>58290487
Trying your best to burn it quick huh?
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>>58290531
N... no ;_;
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>>58290528
>webupd8
>literally who
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>>58290550
Everytime you format and reinstall shit you're doing alot of writes. Good luck with that. If I had an SSD I'd pick something and stick with it.
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im about to try to install linux mint on a mac. this will be my second time using linux, first one with some chroot distro on a chromebook.
i have a spare copy of parallels laying around and was wondering whether it would be easier to use VirtualBox or Parallels (desktop 8) for mac (if it's even compatible)
anyone know?
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>>58290649
use ubuntu
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>>58290663
easier to set up?
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>>58290663
also, i only have like 20 gigs of space left on this peice of shit so idk if that would even fit
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I want to strangle the faggot who ruined opendesktop.org sites with my bare hands

good lord i doesn't even have a functioning "search" anymore.
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>>58290676
No, go with Arch. You'll actually learn something by installing your system.
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>mfw there are freetards in this very thread using google botnet captcha to post on a closed source proprietary software imageboard
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>>58290722
I pay my GIMP to make posts for me.
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>>58290589
Seeing how modern ssd's last around 1 PETABYTE of written data, he has little to worry about
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>>58290487
>I've been distro hopping recently since getting a new SSD, so I have no worries about starting over.
You should be warned that installing Arch on an SSD so it doesn't trash the shit out of it is not trivial. I spent 2 days reading all the Wiki pages trying to figure out how to install FDE with SSD. There's also an issue with TRIM and how to properly enable it.

>Also, I have a 240 GB drive, but can only partition 220GB, wat do gee?
Don't tell me you have Windoze or your current OS on that thing and you want to add Arch partition... that's just asking for trouble.
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>>58290649
I ran LM under Parallels for years. Works well. Do it.

And LM is so much nicer than Ubuntu.
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O B S E S S E D
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>>58290740
Yeah, it's just an SSD for shitposting and learning Unix
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>>58290779
>Unix
You're an idiot.

Leave.
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Fucking hell... I had to reboot the computer and now Arch boots only in 640x480 resolution. I think GRUB is the culprit. Also, when I do xrandr it only shows that shit resolution. Fuck. I thought the issue was with the GFX card but i booted Windows and it works.

How do I fix this? How do I get my resolutions back?
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>>58290713
like what, setting up an anime wallpaper?
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>>58290840
Off the top of my head, how to control system units, set up a WM or DE, etc..
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>>58290777
checked
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>>58290840
how to be an IT person. that's basically what you'll learn. if you want to just program or use the thing, don't bother with that bullshit.

you'll basically track down errors and issues, paste the output into Google and then read Stackexchange on how to fix it.
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>>58290835
Use your gfx card control panel
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>>58290898
>Use your gfx card control panel
It's an Nvidia card. Can I do it from the command line? What would I use?

Thanks anon!
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>>58290913
install nvidia-settings
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>install Steam through software library
>Error you are missing a font package
>manually install font package
>confirms it is already installed
>Steam still fails to launch
Pls halp /g/, I have been using Linux for like three days
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for fucks sake since when window manager themes are lgbtqpbrbbbq unfriendly?
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>>58290947
fc-cache -vf
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>>58290748
I already had a Linux OS installed. Oh well, I'm not going to be a NEET in a couple months, so I'll be able to buy a brand new laptop with a fresh Hard drive
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>>58290932
Thanks anon. Gonna boot into arch now and give it a go.
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>>58290981
GNU/Linux*
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>>58290992
I think you mean Systemd/GNU/Linux.
Get your terminology right, son.
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>>58290810
Fite me IRL
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>>58291006
SystemD/Busybox/Linux/Xorg display server/gnome/bash
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>>58291019
>>58291006
>>58290992
you're trying too hard, it's just gnu.
the guy who creates it, names it, which was rms back in the 80. linux is just one of the kernels which are used with gnu, which was added in the early 90s. installing nt and bonzy buddy in windows doesn't change the name to windows/nt/bonzy buddy; it's just windows - and it's just gnu
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>>58291085
But i dont use the gnu userland at all
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>>58291019
>GNOME
I'm more of an XFCE man myself
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>>58291085
kek, now I truly see
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>>58291085
>guy who creates it,
Linux created it. If gnu didnt exist he would have used another userland that was avalible at the time. stallman just happen to be lucky at the time.
You dont have to use gnu at all on your system.
You can use the Linux kernel with various other userlands.
Its Linux
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>>58291105
>Last updated on Feb 28 2015
It's dead, Jim.
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>>58291127
>You can use the Linux kernel with various other userlands.
That systems obviously aren't GNU plus Linux systems, so why use that argument?
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>>58291150
Why update perfection?
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>>58291158
You're forcing people to say its gnu,when in reality it isnt. You deny any other possible outcomes.This is a linux thread,i can use busybox/malloc/qlibc and the thing in common is Linux, not gnu
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>>58291167
Does xfce have a compositor already?
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>>58291167
Too bad it isn't perfect.
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>>58291177
You can use any compositor you like.
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>>58291176
Well, following your "logic" you're forcing people to say it's Linux when they don't even use systems with Linux as kernel. This is a GNU/Linux thread, I can use GNU plus kFreeBSD, GNU plus Hurd, GNU plus Linux-libre - but does it change the fact that the most commonly used combination is the GNU system with the Linux kernel?
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>>58291224
The most common thing is that you're using the Linux kernel sweetheart.
What loads first?
Oh right, the KERNEL, which then loads everything else
I know its hard for you to accept this.
Go walk bare foot outside and eat the dirt like your "saviour" does.
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>>58291224
stop replying to him you dumb faggot.

you waste time arguing him and he'll come here tomorrow and will shit up the thread once again.

just don't reply and see how quickly he'll go away
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>>58291253
I always thought GRUB loads first.
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>>58291253
>What loads first?
bios/uefi
then the bootloader
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>>58291259
>2017
>grub
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>>58291253
guess what runs the kernel
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>>58291291
How can non-GNU software EVER compete?
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>>58291307
>*** Please be civil, notice the "Systemd" in every Friendly Systemd Thread. ***
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>>58291307
openrt
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>>58291307
freetards btfo
lincucks btfo
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>>58291085
But windows before NT was just a DE
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Different thought: The system is always a combination of different programs, so there isn't a technical correct term other than naming every single program by itself, or more sane, the distro name.
So, but when it comes to naming the thing as system, why not using a name that makes people aware of the initial goals, the whole thing started for instead of using a name that tries to hide them?
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>>58291544
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>>58291544
in the early days, people feared that "free" makes people think of low quality freeware, so they coined new words and strategies to hide the "free" terminology, in order to boost free software. sadly it ended up in a divided community. I highly recommend to watch "revolution os" on that topic.
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>>58291668
... and Open Source was born.
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>>58291544
The unwritten convention goes like this
>you call it Linux majority of the time in all environments, especially among normalfags who have no clue what you're talking about but somehow cornered you into pronouncing the word
>you call it GNU/Linux when differentiating between the kernel and the operating system(s) is relevant to the discussion
>you call it by the distribution name when it's irrelevant to the discussion


NOW
There will be two groups of people who will not agree with what I have written here:
>People who insist on using GNU/Linux in every opportunity
Autistic faggots that should reconsider their lives
>People insisting on calling it "Linux" and you refuse to accept other names and who seek to actively defend their stance on the topic
Contrarian faggots that should reconsider their lives
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>>58291705
I actually agree. Except that saying GNU/Linux among normalfags isn't really bad, bad is correcting/interjecting them since it's just pissing people off.
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Trying to get this straight. On Ubuntu, apt-get just downloads packages and checks dependencies, but dpkg is the program that actually installs the package?
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>>58291836
apt, apt-get, aptitude are frontends to dpkg.
dpkg by itself cannot resolve dependencies.

same goes for
fedora and derivatives where yum/dnf are frontends to rpm
and opensuse where yast/zypper are frontends to rpm
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>>58291869
Different anon, how's on arch?
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>>58291885
>Different anon
>>>/r/ebbit
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Can somebody help me install Debian?

As far as I understand there are like...three versions? Testing, stable and unstable? Their website seems awfully confusing.

Which one do I want? I see even the Stable has two versions a BT hybrid version an ISO hybrid version, just wtf?
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>>58291956
you want stable
unstable is for betatesting software
testing is ubuntu without the fun stuff
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Welp /g/ I installed ubuntu Gnome 16.04 on my gaymun desktop (i7 6700k r9 Fury nano)

I have installed steam but when I click the icon it doesn't run. I am also trying to install the fglrx drivers but I click run on the executable script it does nothing. (I have allowed scripts to run in the permissions)

Any help would be greatly appreciated, not sure what else to do.
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>>58291271
Power Grid/Local power network/House power grid/power conduit/power supply/motherboard/cpu/ram/pci/sata/pata/ide/bios/bootloader/Linux>Xorg display server/Display manager/Window manager/terminal emulator/bash
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>>58292067
https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-install.html
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>>58292105
>do i fit in yet? XDD
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>>58292130
>>58291931
(...)
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>>58291956
Debian and apt are shit
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>>58292275
>>>/t/watter
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>>58291956
you want testing, except you're a server or bloody new and need something rock solid, then use stable
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hello
setting up mpd on my r pi 3 with raspbian os
the music in on an external hdd plugged in with usb
I can connect remotely to it with ncmpcpp and see the connection established message just none of the music loads
how
I'm not sure what the issue is
the music is in /media/pi/ff7c6aef-93b8-4909-adf6-46f810d1d480/Music
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>>58292435
>/media/pi/ff7c6aef-93b8-4909-adf6-46f810d1d480/Music
did you put that in .config/mpd/mpd.conf?

you have to update your library
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I'm trying to write a script that fades out the brightness of my screen except for the mpv windows, but I can't find a solution with xrandr. Is there an option for exluding a windows or something that I'm missing or is there a program that already does the job?
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>>58292467
it is in /etc/mpd.conf
how do I update the library?
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>>58292484
I've yet to hear about a technology that allows you to partially dim the backlight on a screen.
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>>58292518
>/etc/mpd.conf
that's the global config

>how do I update the library?
google.
I use mpd but I don't use ncmccpcpcpcccccp.
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>>58292521
amoled?
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>>58292521
Sorry for being a noob, I though xrandr changes shit software-side.
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>>58292379
If only I had people to talk about GNU on there
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>>58292544
amoled isn't backlit
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>>58292553
>>58292484
The only thing I could think off: Write a program that paints a black picture (10% opacity) on a predefined region. Well, I'm not a programmer.......
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>>58292605
kek, not bad, I guess compton would actually do that if I define a window with a 999999999999999999999999999 shadow
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>>58292655
That's just gay.
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>>58292591
no but wouldn't it theoretically allow you to have one part of the screen lighter than another at the same time?
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Installed Awesome-WM but didn't really like it on Xubuntu, wanted to go back to xfwm4 at login butwhenever I enter my password the screen flashes and sends me back to the login screen and I can only startup Awesome. I tried changing the xfce session [NAME] category from xfce session to xfce-session didn't work either.
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>>58292730
it would theoretically allow you to shut down parts of the screen, which it does when displaying "black"
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I'll always remember when the 4chan Linux community despoiled the statue of liberty.

Filthy communist scum.
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>>58292785
i'd rather have giant copper smiling RMS clutching an old librebooted thinkpad instead of this fugly statue 2bqhwy
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>>58292785
weee! so fun!
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>>58292785
>Filthy communist scum.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
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>>58292113
nvm just ran it in terminal with sudo

steam just werked once the driver was installed
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>>58292823
>>58292827
>>58292874
don't reply
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>>58292543
I moved mpd.conf to ~/.config/mpd/ and now when trying to connect remotely I get connection refused
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>>58292988
i did not say you should move it you dummy.

I just said that /etc/mpd.conf is the global config. You obviously want your rbpi to serve as mpd server, so you're free to leave it there
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>>58292961
y-you too!
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I just installed Arch Linux, how do I rice?
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Screen tearing on Cinnamon. I thought this WASN'T supposed to happen.
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>>58293081
http://freerice.com/
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>>58293005
okay, moved it back
back to the "my music doesn't load" issue
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>>58293081
Install a theme
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>>58293081
https://rizonrice.github.io/resources
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>>58293137
post your conf

is your hard drive mounted?
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>>58293196
actually, updating the library from my side with ncmpcpp solved the no music issue
now I have a new exciting issue
no sound
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Daily reminder Linux is just OSX for poor people.
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Anyone else enjoying Elementary OS?
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>>58292744
Is it safe to 'sudo apt-get remove awesome' and I'll be able to use xfwm4 again?
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>>58293291
no
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>>58292484
https://github.com/eigengrau/x-highlight-region
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>>58293287
you want to scroll down the mpd.conf and look for a section that says "Audio Output".

Uncomment the pulseaudio section
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>>58293291
I don't understand how people can watch shows so small.

Having a music player active on the same monitor would just be distracting to me.
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>>58293363
Becaues people don't. If you didn't notice it's a screenshot staged to suggest that youre actually "doing something"
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It has been confirmed that GNU is trash. We ran some test just five minutes ago and came to this very obvious conclusion.
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>>58293289

Oh really?
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>>58293395
you are in denial my ossy mate.
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>>58293395
>he got rid of the best OS for the worst one

I guess it's for poor people AND retards.
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>>58293363

It's what I do with filler episodes. The music player isn't active, in this case >>58293378 is right, I put it there for show.
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>>58293420
this
>>58293395
see >>58293420
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>>58293287
>>58293339
Take this and leave the thread alone
/etc/mpd.conf
# See: /usr/share/doc/mpd/mpdconf.example

pid_file "/run/mpd/mpd.pid"
db_file "/var/lib/mpd/mpd.db"
state_file "/var/lib/mpd/mpdstate"
playlist_directory "/var/lib/mpd/playlists"
music_directory ""
audio_output {
type "pulse"
name "pulse audio"
}
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>>58293420
>>58293438

I can afford to do whatever I want, I'm sorry you guys feel the need act like this.
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I realized it as soon as I studied CS in university. Lincux is a freetard meme. Same with Vim and emacs. The retardation in those text editors are unreal.
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>>58293471
what kind of stupid question is this?
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>>58293475

Maybe you shouldn't be using computers at all.
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Regarding Debian versioning:

the official site makes it confusing to understand or perhaps it was not properly updated

At this point, is Wheezy still oldstable or is it LTS?

I thought oldstable releases got official updates
but on this page it states that Wheezy went into LTS since April 2016

Their definition of LTS is another community that aims to extend oldstable releases
Does that mean it has not recieved official sec updates since then and is only patched by the unofficial community?


These two pages contradict each other about the current status of Wheezy:
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable
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>>58293498

Do you see a question mark at the end of my sentence? You should just abandon this thread, your retardation is showing.
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>>58293528
How was that in any context a response to what I just said? Are you this awkward and autistic in real life as well?
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>>58293546
umm ok? lol
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>>58293535
answered my own fucking question with another search:

https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160425


to be fair, their versioning naming scheme is complete stupidity


their site implies oldstable still receives official sec updates

that is not true. They call wheezy oldstable yet it gets updates from the LTS community (since April of 2016)

https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160425
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Anyone actually use GuixSD?
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>>58293597
>>58293535
Excellent blog post!!!
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>>58293475
>>
->58293535
->58293597
nobody gives a fuck, debian is garbage.
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>>58293535
debian and oldstables are two different statues.

each release of debian stable goes into oldstable branch as soon as new stable arrives from testing freeze

consider LTS as old-oldstable.
oldstable does not last until new oldstable arrives.
It's a transition period for you to safely make the switch to new stable.
So after a year of oldstable debian security drops it and it gets relegated to a group of volunteers who will backport security patches for it

https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160425
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>>58293606
sorry for posting an answer to a GNU/Linux question
>>58293618
come back when you learn to quote
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>>58293614
you're dumb. linux is for pretentious faggots. get over it.
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>>58293551

I'm not awkward, nor autistic; so my advice still stands. If you're under the impression that linux based operating systems do not have good development environments to offer; you should examine your competence at using computers.
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>>58293634
>GNU/
we don't want your kind around here. you can deport yourself back to rebbit.
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>>58293645
>I'm not awkward, nor autistic
Sure, mate. Whatever you say.
>you should examine your competence at using computers.
I wrote a kernel and a compiler. I think I have enough competence to conclude that Lincux is a meme.
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>>58293650
OP does the same
if you're autistic enough to argue go make your own thread instead of shitting up this one
>>
What's a good tiling WM for a noob? Nothing super complex - I'm not bothered about ultimate customisation or utility right now.
>>
>>58293676
I will gladly tell him to deport himself back to his home site if I have any reason to believe he is still reading this thread. I don't want to cause any unnecessary inflation.
>go make your own thread
but this IS my thread. I own it and have been the owner for quite some time now.
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>>58293693
Whatever the windows DE uses
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>>58293693
spectrwm and dwm are the best tilers out there.
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>>58293676
just stop replying to him lmao

he's bored and he will jump at every opportunity to shit up the thread and ruin your fun here.

hide/ignore
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>>58293730
>tfw spectrwm was previously called scrotwm
>scrotwm
>scrotum
fucking lol

Thanks for the suggestions. They both look suitable for me.

Cheers!
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>>58293693
I'd say i3.
It has plaintext bash-like configuration file that's extremely noob-friendly.
Compared to i3 openbox's XML configuration is hell.
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>>58293693
i3 for babbies first tiling
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>>58293630
It's misleading to call something oldstable when updates are handed off to LTS because of their definition of oldstable:
>oldstable is a codename for the previous Debian stable repository, as long as security updates are provided.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable


This is an ambiguous statement since it doesn't specify who is providing the sec updates. Imo, the difference between LTS and official sec updates deserves a version name change.
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>>58293756
Perhaps not dwm on further inspection. spectrwm seems neat.

>>58293761
>>58293762
I hear a lot of praise for i3 - I might look into that too.
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>>58293761
>>58293762
besides special snowflake why would you use anything but i3 again?
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>>58293769
>Imo, the difference between LTS and official sec updates deserves a version name change.
Nobody actually gives a shit about old stable because it's a time window for you to migrate safely to a newer release of stable without being left vulnerable for a year.

The whole "LTS" thing was brought to life recently (with squeeze) because ISS or whichever governmental institution governs the ISS decided that with Windows XP going EOL it was time to migrate to linux.

And these dumb fucks sat and thought that since they need something stable debian old-stable sounds like the right tool for the job without realizing that old-stable is not anymore stable than stable - it's just more outdated.

Like with everything that sounds too dumb to be the truth - it's just one silly decision resulting in another silly decision that leads to another ad infinitum.
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>>58293832
rice + functionality
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>>58293832
Tiling WMs are "the special snowflake" period.
Doesn't matter which one, so you can stop channeling your inner autism right now
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>>58293832
using tiling is enough special snowflake to begin with
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>>58293832
>uses linux
>calls others special snowflake
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>>58293665
>I wrote a kernel and a compiler. I think I have enough competence to conclude that Lincux is a meme.

Tell me, why are you so obstinant about degrading linux?
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>>58293730
does spetrwm have gaps
there's not love in life without gaps
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>>58293836
>And these dumb fucks sat and thought that since they need something stable debian old-stable sounds like the right tool for the job without realizing that old-stable is not anymore stable than stable - it's just more outdated.
ffs, are they short on autists like me that can explain version differences to them?

>Like with everything that sounds too dumb to be the truth - it's just one silly decision resulting in another silly decision that leads to another ad infinitum.
Too true.

Time to get off oldstable now that I bothered to search what it actually means
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>>58293879
Because Lincux is a complete meme and a shitty one at that.
>>
>>58293879
just stop replying to him for fucks sake.

writing a compiler and a kernel is literally what everyone does at first year of CS
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>>58293467
>>58293339
I setup the pulse audio but it doesn't play, it's stuck on pause
alsa plays locally on the pi though if I plug in
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>>58293845
>>58293849
they're very convenient if all you do is pound text into terminals all day and don't like using a mouse for any reason

They're also way less bloated and easier to setup imo
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>>58293898
couldnt find lincux on knowyourmeme, why is that?
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>>58293898
You're the one trying to force meme "lincux" on /g/ - Technology. Do you know where you are?
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>>58293968
on a windows board, check the catalog
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>>58293906

Alright, for your sake.
>>
>>58293926
>>58293968
stop fucking replying to him JESUS christ i swear to me god If I had you fucking redditors within the reach of my arm I would fucking SLAP the living shit out of you.

He's here to fish for (You)s and all you do is give EXACTLY what he wants from you.
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>>58293926
maybe because that's a reddit website. that would be my only guess
>>58293968
i think there are two ways of answering your question:
judging by the link we are obviously on 4chan /g/
judging by the content it is closer to a lincux subreddit
so i don't even know
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>>58293990
I have yous disabled so that can't possibly be my end goal. There is simply no way I could keep track of every single one of them one my own. Nice reddit logic though, it seems like you think of yous as something special since they don't exist on your site.
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>>58293990

I was actually having fun, it's like doing mental gymnastics with retards and obvious shills.
>>
>>58293968
if i am to think of you're image name as something significant than i believe we are on currently reddit.com
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>>58294041
indeed, now flip "the one who does mental gymnastics with retards and obvious shills" with "retards and obvious shills"
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>>58294046

I have over 15K images on my computer and I've taken the effort to name them all. It started getting unmanageable after a while.
>>
>>58294060

You're hardly making any sense.
>>
>>58294041
>it's like doing mental gymnastics with retards and obvious shills.
You think it's the case
but you're here trying to find a counterargument to his shit
and he's there giggling at your sweaty attempts, barely reading what you wrote and just scrolling through directories of saved pastas to rile you up again.

he doesn't care if he's btfo.
You can yell and scream and type furiously at him and he'll just come tomorrow to annoy you again.

The moment you think you can outargument him is the moment you lost the fucking game because his point isn't "to win the argument", but to make you waste your time on bullshit he barely cares about.

Just don't play the game.
Use the report function.

Sometimes their post get deleted when janitor has a good day.
>>
>>58293892
yup
>>
>>58294072
nice excuse, not buying it though, redditard
>>
>>58293917
yeah alsa works fine
I plugged in some old speakers to the pi an can control if from the laptop
turning on pulse doesn't change anything, no sound from the laptop with ncmpcpp, turning off alsa pauses the song entirely
>>
>>58294093
That's literally not even a valid response to what I posted.
>>
>>58294097

I enjoy doing this, it's not some kind of compulsion or anything. What fun would it be if I reported everyone who I disagree with?
>>
>>58294147
I think this finally broke my suspension of disbelief. Nice try though.
>>
What is the best distro for putting on an SSD?
>>
>>58294147
>it's not some kind of compulsion or anything
yeah... that's what i used to tell myself as well
>>
>>58294168
Anything that satisfies these conditions:
not arch
not based on arch
not debian
not based on debian
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>>58294147
>Haha I'll masturbate this guy, that'll show him!

While you are "enjoying yourself" and performing all kinds of mental gymnastics to rationalize your dumb actions you're attracting massive amounts of trolls who are reassured that this is the general for easy trolling.

You're RUINING this place for everyone else that doesn't enjoy being flooded by children.
>>
>>58294168

I'd say: Elementary OS. Just don't forget to set swappiness to 0.
>>
>>58294205
how?
>>
>>58294193
yeah "i" guess "i" ruined this safespace for you guys....
i think i'm gonna uninstall windows now and install linkek
just kidding by the way hehe...
>>
>>58294218
do sudo apt-get purge systemd
this will reboot your system and detect your ssd
>>
>>58294236
>do i fit in yet? XDD
>>
>>58294252
in what way exactly is this a valid response to post >>58294236 ?
>>
>>58294170
>yeah... that's what i used to tell myself as well
Why did you stop?
>>58294193
The children are going to be here, regardless of what you think will keep them out. You should be more willing to play with them, no matter how stupid they are. You will understand when you have kids of your own.
>>
>>58294236
You should have just told him to install Gentoo instead.
>>58294218
Just look it up, all the data you need is on the debian wiki. You do know how to use search engines right?
>>
>>58294132
hey bump
looking around and can't find the solution anywhere
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>>58294286
i just realized the truth and stopped lying to myself. by the way, are you one of them "old fags"?
>>
I'm getting over the Solus meme since I want a distro that has packages. What should I get? I only really used Fedora in the past before Solus. I'm kinda considering Debian.
>>
>>58294357
>Debian
Whatever you do stay away from that piece of shit.
>>
>>58294382
What do you suggest as an alternative? I'm not wanting to do the arch/gentoo meme.
>>
>>58294404
I suggest looking up what "meme" is since you are obvious newcomer to this site who thinks it means something similar to "joke"
Then look into anything from this list >>58294189, that should be a good starting point
>>
Anyone use SUSE Studio before? I'm thinking of using it to make a very minimal version of OpenSUSE
>>
does anybody know why firefox can't see my printer but chromium does after using the system print dialog? The hp tool sees it just fine and I can print from it fine but firefox won't use it.
>>
>>58294459
thanks, yo.
>>
>>58294459
an*
Oh, and you could also add anything related to solus there as well
>>
>>58294472
What OS?
>>
>>58294558
archlinux
>>
>>58294568
arch linux is for advanced users only
>>
>>58294568
>linux
Found your problem. Might wanna switch to Windows since it has basic features like good printer support
>>
Been using Arch Linux for almost a year now and I've gotten nothing but shit from other Linux users. I was wondering if there was an alternative that "just works" yet is still pretty minimal.
>>
>>58294590
Ubuntu
>>
nm apparently I had to install gtk3-print-backends

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218193
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>>58294573
even gentoo isn't. you arch plebs can go play somewhere else lmao
>>58294590
gentoo is pretty good. also try out slackware
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>>58294590
It doesn't matter what distro you're using, there's always someone shitting on you, so just use what you like.
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>>58294641
this. but at least admit you are a plebeian if you use something like arch.
>>
I see people frequently recommend using a separate partition to store Virtual Machines.

What's the reason for this?

I just want to try out Xubuntu on Windows, and possibly use it to control a Ubuntu server from within Windows
>>
>>58294676

Why is Arch so frowned upon?
>>
>>58294725
it's a plebeian distro. it's completely fine to use it if you are honest about your status as a pleb. the other distros don't get mentioned since their low level is incredibly obvious, i'm talking animal-like levels here
>>
>>58294758

Elaborate on why it's plebeian? Specifics. I'm trying to learn more.
>>
>>58294781
it is simply defined as being such. your question is about as meaningful as "why does "cat" mean what it means?"
>>
>simply defined as being such

For what reason? For shits and giggles? Does that make Debian plebeian just cause?
>>
>>58294819
What is a cat? If an atom fell from a cat, would it still be considered a cat? If not, what made it a "cat" in the first place?
>>
>>58290748
>You should be warned that installing Arch on an SSD so it doesn't trash the shit out of it is not trivial.
What? I don't even like Arch, but I find that hard to believe. If you have a shitty SSD maybe.
>>
>>58294819
It's short for concatenate.
>>
what is the difference between linux
>>
>>58294835
>For what reason?
your question doesn't make any sense. this is like asking the reasoning being why word x is defined as it is.
>Does that make Debian plebeian just cause?
no, as i have stated earlier debian would be animalistic in nature. which then means any users of it would be closer to animals while arch users are mere plebs.
>>58294848
>What is a cat?
you can reference a dictionary for that.
>If an atom fell from a cat, would it still be considered a cat?
sorry, i wouldn't know. but if i were to guess i'd say no.
>If not, what made it a "cat" in the first place?
my application of the definition "cat" to it
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>>58294897
and ubuntu
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nevar forget >>58294476
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>>58294912
definition of*
>>
>>58294897
Freedom.
>>
What's the plural of Linux?
>>
>>58294936
good ol days of /g/ayland
>>
>>58294941
Certainly not on linkeks where multiple entities control the code you get. At least with microsoft it's just one company.
>>
>>58294988
GNUs
>>
>>58294988
Linüxe.
>>
>>58294988
windows
>>
>>58294988
Lini
>>58294999
>pushing GNU on the name
The name GNU is ugly and Stallman is a pedophilic autist who hasn't coded in years.
>>
>>58294996
pajeet detected
>>58295017
>>
>>58294988
kernels
>>
>>58294590
arch is fine. if you want something else, go for void or gentoo
>>
>>58294988
fragmented community
>>
>>58295025
yes, i am indeed from india. what's wrong with that though?
>>
good job pajeet, detour attention to the flamewar
>>
>>58294988
It's Linuxes.
>>
>>58294337
>are you one of them "old fags"?
Everyone is oldfag when asked, it has become a meme. If you notice someone who is obviously new here, just tell them to lurk moar. Our anonymity from each other occludes our identity to bring forth our ideas and insights to the foreground. The very concept is to me like a catalyst for novelty and refinement.
>>
>>58293604
Bumping this question
>>
>>58294988
communism
>>
>>58294189
>not arch
>not based on arch
Would tumbleweed be too much of a rolling release?
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>>58294912
Git a load of this guy. Cant even install arch
>>
>>58295069
GPL allows selling software. Get your shit together.
>>
>>58295088
>too much of a rolling release
there is no such thing.
>>
>>58295069
I'm a bait
>>58295110
>I'm a fish
>>
>>58295110
yes, only because it benefits their communist ideals.
>>
>>58295094

>Immortalizing spelling errors in image macros.
>Repost said image macros.
You must have no sense of duty, honor or respect for KEK.
>>
>>58295132
why are you roleplaying here?
>>
>>58294689
>I see people frequently recommend using a separate partition to store Virtual Machines.
>What's the reason for this?
Anyone know?

My Windows is on a ssd with just one partition, so it would be ideal to not have to resize it I think. I could just use a different hard drive tho, just won't be ssd.
>>
Is Tails just a meme? I recently got a ThinkPad R50 and I'm still deciding what to do with it.
>>
>>58295194
>binary based
>vanilla kernel
yep, it's a meme
>>
>>58295194
>Is tails just an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by non-genetic means, especially imitation?
uhh... idk
>>
>>58295113
For an SSD, I mean
>>
>>58295194
install gentoo
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>>58295194
see >>58295203
then see >>58295221
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>>58295133

What does a deadbeat economic philosophy that has never worked have to do with the GPL? I mean, the largest cooperative project on planet earth is licensed under the GPL.
>>
>>58295245
>communism apparently has something to do with "economics" and "philosophy"
yup, spotted the communist. back to your subreddit, buddy.
>>
>>58295194

You shouldn't install Tails linux locally, just run it from a fast USB flash drive or something. It's supposed to be an amnesic operating system, and for that very reason, it would be counter-intuitive to install it locally.
>>
>>58295269
>subreddit
is this what they call threads where you come from?
>>
What would be a good distro to run as a remote ssh server for dev and such? I want relatively recent packages and decently large repos.
>>
>>58295269
>deadbeat economic philosophy that has never worked
You really need to learn how to read.
>>
>>58295291
nah, they are similar to threads where your communist kind comes from, or so i have heard.
>>
>>58295306
ubuntu
>>
>>58295308
>i have heard
>being around redditors
time to go back to your friends
>>
>>58295306

Either CentOS or OpenSUSE should do the trick.
>>
>>58295335
>centos
>recent packages
>>
BSD is better, Linux is for commie cucks.
>>
>>58295307
saying that communism has absolutely anything to do with economics is like saying denial of basic math is just a subset of math.
>>
>>58295313
Ubuntu is garbage for anything other than babby's first destep linux. Ignore their server edition, it's guaranteed to ruin your experience with it's lack of quality.
>>
>>58295379
This isn't very good bait. Are you underage?
>>
>>58295357

You're a clear example for someone who can't read a sentence and comprehend what is being said. You fail to see what has been said through your own pre-defined set of responses. Now go back and try again.
>>
>>58295429
i just did. you implied communism is somehow related to economics (which it isn't). even saying it's really shitty economics is simply incorrect as it wasn't "economics" to begin with. it should be a pretty simple concept to grasp since you claim to not be a communist (a claim i am deeply skeptical of at this point)
>>
>>58295348
nice driver support
>>
>>58295417
Found the butthurt noobuntu baby
>>
>>58295462

communism
[kom-yuh-niz-uh m]

noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2.
(often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
3.
(initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist Party.

So the dictionary is wrong as well?
>>
>>58295504
found the 1336 arch teenager
>>
>>58295521
Arch Linux teaches you Linux. Ubuntu teaches you windows.
>>
>>58295533
GNU/Linux*
>>
>>58295507
didn't read it but if the dictionary says anything similar to the following then it is indeed wrong:
>communism is even slightly related to economics

i wouldn't use it as a source of absolute knowledge if i were you, just try to analyze your posts before you actually hit the button and subject everyone to them. if something denies the basis of something it obviously cannot be a subset of that something
>>
>>58295533
like what, installing trash from the aur? kek
>>
>>58295533
>Ubuntu teaches you
Who gives a shit. It's an operating system - it's a tool for productivity. You have nothing better to do than learn the minutiae of an operating system? I mean, I bet you'd make a great sysadmin, so thumbs up for that!
>>
>>58295581
>minutiae of an operating system
>sysadmin
lmao
>>
new thread when
>>
>>58295596
This is the last thread.
>>58295588
>lmao
>>>/r/ebbit
>>
if the next thread doesn't have an anime image i am going to unleash my wrath onto this world
>>
>>58295596

Do you expect any better next time?
>>
new thread: >>58295626
>>
>>58289630
which is more light weight, arch or debian? ill probably use lxqt or learn i3 if that helps
>>
>>58295704
debian
>>
>>58295348
BSD is the grand cuck of licenses.
>>
>>58295713
nice. im using ubuntu minimal and its still a resource hog
>>
>>58295348
Server OS
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