/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>he doesn't game on his ThinkPad

cheapest thinkpad I can get that can power a 4k monitor?

I'm not too familiar with the nvidia specs and capabilities

>>58261332
brb reinstalling that game

>>58261332
i do, but its a T42 so im limited to old games that can run on 32mb of vram

>>58261318
Asked in the last thread with no answer:

Will the P50 be updated soon? I want quadcore, new, and better than HD, and the T470P looks like trash.

>>58262186
Announcement in February, availability sometime later

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Just picked up a t60 with dock at the thrift store for $17. Did I do well?

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My x220 got busted up a little. Most things are ok, but gaming is impossible now. Should i reinstall win 7?

>>58262324
i'd say so, looks like its in great physical condition from the picture

>>58262417
It also came with 4gb of memory from the previous owner. My power cord comes January 2nd.

got a t430 for $160
good or bad
looking like really good to me

I have an x220 on the way and also IBM stickers to replace the Lenovo ones. Anyone who's done this swap got any advice on getting the old ones off without fucking up the case? Thanks!

>>58261318
Which of the newer thinkpads is most /tpg/ approved?
I've got an x60 right now that I'm generally a fan of, main things I would like improved are the processor and battery life. Looking on the Lenovo site it seems like a lot have meme keyboards and from what I've heard on here they're moving to worse build quality?
Is there anything recent with the classic keyboards, well built cases, rectangular shape (no rounded corners), matte screen, etc.? I basically just want an x60 but faster/longer lasting.

>>58262866
I don't think you're going to find anything like you're looking for, but I honestly think that /g/ hating the new Thinkpads is just in relation to the old ones, not in relation to other current laptops. I'm personally pretty pumped for the T470, but I would have preferred a x270 that had a TB3 port (unlike the T470 and co, it seems to just be standard usb type-c on 3.1 or something)

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>>58261318

>>58263229
latitudes have garbage specs

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How objectively good is the i7 in a X220T ThinkPad? I need something to give me basic Photoshop support and decent battery life so I can watch Netflix on the go.

>>58263403
My x220 with i5 and 8gb ram handles Photoshop fine and gimp even better. Win7/Arch dualboot

>>58263264
>garbage specs

some latitudes have garbage specs for sure, but they will cost a few hundred less than a thinkpad with identical garbage specs

>>58263264
[CITATION NEEDED]

>>58263403
You probably won't get a noticeable difference. i7 isn't much faster than i5.

>>58264490
fun for waving your dick vs 6200u though

How can I tell the difference between the X220's that have an IPS screen, and those that don't?

What do you guys use your thinkpads for? I might start using mine for manga and other books as well as web browsing.

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>>58262866
>I basically just want an x60 but faster/longer lasting.
replace your motherboard with an X62.

>>58265251
i use my x201t for drawing, light gaming (stuff like insurgency, gmod, and other oldish games), browsing, etc. it's been my daily driver for some years now.

Looking to get an X series ThinkPad
I /really/ like the X220 but I would also like a higher resolution than 1366x768.
Are there any displays of a higher resolution that works with the X220?
Ideally 1920x1080 but even 1600x900 will suffice.

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>>58265362
STFU

>>58265467
Friendly.
I'm asking a simple enough question.

/tpg/, I was pretty sold on T520 but I'm starting to consider T420(s) or X220. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Budget is around 200€ (without the upgrades), could be expanded but eh.
What I'd use it for is back-end web development (XAMPP/Valet/Homestead + some editor) and watching movies on a train/bus (mostly in browser).
Given I'm using win at home and mac at work, I want to put some linux distro on it.

Cheers upfront.

>>58265362
I'm afraid not. With the X series, you're stuck with 1366x768 since the x200 era until I think the x240 would be the first to offer FHD? If not x240, then x250.

I use 1366x768 on the x220, and really with a 12 inch screen that's sort of ideal. If you want more though, you'll have to either buy a newer (and more expensive) Thinkpad, or move up to the T-Series, where the T420/30 have a 1600x900 option.

>>58265637
Ah that really sucks.
I can live with a 1366x768 display if I have to. Not particularly ideal for programming however.
I just adore the keyboards on the X220, can't stand the chiclet keys on later models.

well /g/ i did it i picked up a t430 for $140 today. i5 3320m, 8gb ram, 160gb ssd, 1600x900 nvs 5400m, backlit keyboard

fuck year

>>58265362
>>58265513
>>58265656

there are mods available to get a higher res panel in there, but the custom boards aren't cheap, have a waiting list, and involve a fair amount of soldering. the average /tpg/ shitposter probably won't be putting the work in.

and really, the x220 is still just a nice, inexpensive, 6 year old laptop. don't make a money pit out of it. get an ips for porn on the go, then plug it into a monitor at home

>>58265739
Good find for the price.

>>58265656
Yeah, that's why I mentioned how even with the x230 you'd be screwed though. If the x230 had a FHD panel, you could replace its keyboard with the x220's, but alas they're more or less the exact same machines, just with the next gen cpu and new keyboard.

>friendly reminder that the T430 actually has the better keyboard and the T420 keyboard is a meme.

>>58265796
>>58265780
Thanks for the responses.
Guess I'll just have to grab an IPS panel and live with that.
Should be fine for GNU/Linux stuff I guess. I'll leave my heavier development for my desktop.

Any recommended docks for the 220?

aside from fingerprint software, is anything else on lenovo's website worth a fuck?

>>58265780
I guess I will look into those. Saw a few models for 175€. Will dig deeper for 8GB RAM models and slap some SSD + said IPS on it.

While at the topic of SSDs, any recommendations? 128GB should be enough imo.

>>58265990
power manager

Highest resolution X series?

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>>58265739
same but without ssd : /

probably gonna have one of those garbage 320 GB hdd that every thinkpad listing has for some reason.

>>58265251
honestly? i use it as a shitty htpc on a docking station hooked up to my tv.

>>58267639
should point out it's a t430

also fun story

>early December before break
>in college's library
>working on shit on my t430
>already slightly older than most students
>have a decently kept beard
>wear khakis
>wear polo shirt
>have generic black coat hanging off chair
>everybody assumes i'm faculty
>other students ask me for help with shit
>explain i'm not a teacher or aid or anything
>they leave calling me a faggot
>kill myself in the library
>drink beer

>>58265637

x201t checking in with the 1280x800 display, desu at 12.5 inches, 800p is good enough. Any higher and things would be smaller, I already zoom in on most web pages due to how tiny everything is.

>>58265304

Insurgency? On a x201t? Geez, I should try that out with mine and see if it will blow up..

>>58262324
you even got the dock too, very good find.

>>58262866
I've got the x260 and it's pretty sweet.

>>58267694
woah

why should I buy a thinkpad over a chromebook when thinkpad's still have that added cost of coming with windows? Just looking for something to browse internet and do basic things for college.

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Happy new year!

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Anybody with T420 running windows 8.1 on it?
How's the driver support? What's your experience with it?
I have mSata SSD mPCI ExpressCard, and was thinking of installing Win8.1 on it for some "games" and other windows specific applications.
And to bypass airport security.

>>58269108
>Anybody with T420 running windows 8.1 on it?
>How's the driver support? What's your experience with it?

It's fine. I had to download some drivers from the win7 section, but they still work fine.
I just can't set the battery threshold, and 1 or 2 fn buttons don't work.

>>58261318
So do we get Thinkpad retro now

>>58269165
>I had to download some drivers from the win7 section
What drivers?
>fn buttons don't work
Does the Think light and Brightness control work?
Thanks for replying.

>>58269189
>What drivers?
I don't really remember, sorry, that was some optional shit.

>Does the Think light and Brightness control work?
Sure.
Well, I was kinda in the wrong here, I don't have working the ones on F3, F5, F6, F8 and on space. Maybe it can be fixed, I didn't really bother.

>>58269245
Oh.
I'm not using those in the first place, and all have software control anyway.
Will 4 GB of RAM and i5 2520m and iGPU be enough to run Win8.1 smooth enough?

>>58269268
If you work with memory-hungry software, or if you like to keep your browser with 150 tabs, you should consider memory upgrade. Otherwise, you'll be fine.

>>58269300
Most thing I imagine I might use is PS, the rest is just VNs.
And there is pagefile.

Does the 430s really work only with original batteries ?
I saw some non-lenovo batteries on amazon with some people claiming they get 6 hours, and some people say they just don't work. Where can one find original batteries 2nd hand with like a little wear ? ebay ?

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Who /comfy/ here?

>>58265276
Those chinese mods seem interesting anon

What's some good RAM for a t420?

>>58270360
DDR3 is good. Be sure to use SODIMM modules.

>>58264983
Viewing angle, colors, the IPS won't be absolute shit.

I don't really want to spend any money for the IPS replacement, but the TN panel is incredibly bad.

>>58269957
Who /notsuffocatingmylaptop/ here?

>>58270789
>SODIMM
Why?

worth buy the t61?

My T420 with 2520M throttles in Team Fortress 2.
It is pumping up the temperature until it hits 90, and then JUST. Is it normal?

>>58271542
iGPU?

>>58261332
What a game.. The nostalgia.

>>58261332
Anon, can you make a RA2 one?
So we can spread the love of thinkpads?

>>58271563
Yes.

>>58271619
Then it's expected, try lowering the graphic settings.
Does it shutdown? are you running other CPU intensive tasks?OS?

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I have been looking for a laptop and/or preferebly a 2-in-1.

Was torn between a carbon x1 tablet, dell xps, surface pro 4.. But now I just looked at this, for 849 is it worth grabbing? How are the m5 processors?

>>58269957
hello /pol/ack

>>58271635
No, it does not shut down, just unplayable, since it's lowering the frequency to 800 MHz every 30 seconds.
OS is win8.1, no applications besides steam.

>>58271663
>win8.1
That's could be part of the problem then.
I've never had good experience with win8 in general.
But you might get better performance if you lower the graphics for the game.

>>58271690
I have it on my desktop for years, no problems.
I already changed my thermal interface twice, no changes.
I can disable turbo boost, but I prefer if someone with T420 and 2520M tries Team Fortress 2 and told me that not only me is having throttling.

>>58271735
I meant win8 on T420.
I have T420 with Nvidia GPU, but I never had issues with games throttling.

>>58271647
my dell 5570's build quality is shit, I wreck one in a year. Lucky that I work for a multinational, so local helpdesk just replaces the hardware whenever. Protip: dont hold dells by the panel, like a thinkpad

>>58270804
Have you heard of the Full HD Display replacement for the X220/X230?

>>58261318
What's the best place to get a new thinkpad in Canuckistan?
I want a T series with a passmark processor rated at about 4000.
I really, really, really want a warranty.

Not sure if this question belongs here, but recently I bought a T460p and it came with an OEM BIOS key for Windows 7.

I tried installing Windows 10 but it would just take the OEM Windows 7 key from the BIOS and KMSpico couldn't activate it because "this key is already being used in another computer".

What else can I do?

>>58271809
Okay, it seems that I had in BIOS Config - Power - Adaptive Thermal Management in «Balanced», not «Maximize Performance».
Now it is on 92-93 degrees in Team Fortress 2 without throttling, it's enjoyment to play. (But temps that high are still bothering me)

>>58272131
>using windows authentication
get windows loader

>>58272131
Install g[spoiler]...Linux Mint[/spoiler] on it.

>>58272166
Does Windows Loader work on Windows 10? I want to get rid of this old Lenovo-bloated Windows 7 install.

>>58272174
Actually, I already installed Gentoo on it. Windows 10 is for Autodesk software and muh gaymes.

>>58272096
Yeah. Upgrading a laptop from 2011 is not worth the cost to me. I think it's about $50 for the little adapter board, then another $100 for the screen. I only spent $165 for my thinkpad in the first place.

>>58272136
I believe TJmax is usually around 95C. That cannot be good for the processor.

>>58272287
Oh, I must have misread then. I thought screen+adapter costs around 50 dollars.

>>58272191
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade
>upgrade to win 10
>use the settings menu to reset your installation, which is the same thing as fresh install.

>>58272337
Shit I thought the free upgrade period was over

>>58272383
If W7 was installed through W10 downgrade rights then you should be able to upgrade back to W10

Since it's a T460p, new, that's how it should have been done.

>>58272479
That's exactly my situation, yeah. Thank you kidn anon.

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The LED light on my optic drive in my T420 is blinking even when there's no CD/DVD.
Is it dying?

>>58272136
>92-93
Celsius?

>>58272735
did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in

also you should just get rid of it anyways and put another drive bay in

>>58272774
Tried that, didn't help.
I need it for work related reasons.

>>58272759
Yes.

>>58272820
Seriously, another drive bay and a USB DVD drive. How hard is that? And a much improved machine

>>58272820
you need a new profession if you're still using cd's in 2017

>>58272136
>92-93
Rankine?

>>58272865
>USB DVD drive
Most of these need 2 USB ports to work.
>>58272888
The perks of living in a socialist country.
Every document most be made with Word 2003 and sent through CD.
While important documents are sent through Viber and whatsapp.
I have my own email server and people refuse using it to send things for me.

>>58272735
where does the cat shit
it must smell horrible in there

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Daily reminder: genuine thinkpad batteries are unsafe to use
>>58256983
>>58256983

>unprotected cells
>one temperature sensor
>shit welding

>>58262374
You should probably see if anything is broken, chances are something is damaged.

>>58272865
Can't burn CDs/DVDs now.
and get an error with Xfburn, it's died isn't it?
>>58273023
litter box under the sink?

>>58269108
>and to bypass airport security
u w0t m8

>>58272990
Or one port and an external power supply

>>58273133
Sounds like it comrade

>>58273238
I think he means getting around paying for airport WiFi, right? RIGHT??

>>58273238
>>58273268
Not sure about other people experience with airport security.
But I always get to be picked out and have to boot up my T420.
Things get "problematic" when it boots to terminal or a DE that's not windows.
>>58273242
Most new USB optic drives no longer need external power supply.

>>58273342
Problematic how? Genuinely curious

>>58273342
i've been all over the world and have never once had to boot up my laptop wtf

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>>58273342
>Things get "problematic"
Oh great one tell us your story.
I'm genuinely interested and can imagine the guards reaction to a """hacker/terroristOS""".

>>58273363
I'd get pulled out of the line, and then have my luggage inspected, again.
Then some high security personnel comes and question me again.
Then they let me board the plane.
But have to deal with the awkward look from the rest of the passengers.
It made me realize sometimes tinfoil-hat have the right to be paranoid.
>>58273365
Must feel good to be categorized as zero threat by airport security.
>>58273469
>guards reaction to a """hacker/terroristOS"""
Not much as hacker OS but they think that the laptop might not be a laptop.

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What are peoples opinions on the thinkpad tab and the upcoming p24/27?

>>58273575
>Must feel good to be categorized as zero threat by airport security.
It does
Are you brown?

>>58273576

monstrosity

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>>58273575
>Not much as hacker OS but they think that the laptop might not be a laptop.
Hmm.

I was expecting a full on panic
>Oh my GOD he has the Hakonix on this thing he will hack the pentagon and take over all our planes!

>>58273603
But.. Which one?
[MUSIC INTENSIFIES]

>>58263229
well, it sure is a good thing that I don't fucking care

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>>58261332
I wish I could, but my X220 throttles even with thermal paste change. Which made me run some tests w/ turbo boost on/off, and with it off, there appears to be a 15% decrease in mutli-threaded performance, and a 20% decrease in single-threaded performance in real-world applications. Pic related

This is a significant performance hit, and what make it even more unfortunate is the CPU throttles regardless, just that it takes longer for it to reach critical temps.

>>58273735
How do you disable turbo boost?

Is there a way to invert the use of the fn key. I dont want to press the fn everytime when i want to change the volume. Cant find anything in the bios settings.
I have a HP Elitebook 8470p

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>>58271606
Consider it done.

>>58273889
+99 internets to you sir.
Can you play effectively on line on this?
Or do humans destroy you?

>>58273766
On Linux, if you're using the intel_pstate driver, then simple editing

/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo

to 1 will disable it. Reverts on restart. Strangely enough, on my system some applications don't honor it or somehow trigger it.

>>58273903
I haven't tried with humans. I usually just play with a keyboard and mouse (but have tried with the trackpoint a few times).

It's harder to micro, but it's fun to play a casual match with an AI while in bed.

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>>58261332
>Tiberian Sun with a pen tablet

AAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAAH

that shit is so comfy i can feel it from here

>>58273836
most laptops have an always-on FN key function so you won't have to press fn to change the volume, but then the same thing applies to all the other fn buttons

>>58273927
Exactly what I expected. Have a nice day good sir.
Dam I need to play these games once more.

>>58261332
This makes me wish I bought a x220t.
Fuck.

>>58261544
the x1c3 can do 4k@60hz over dp. bios update might be required.

>>58274133
traded my t420 for x220t

kind of regret it

>>58272306
Unfortunately it's just the adapter alone that's $50. I'd definitely be more interested if the whole thing was so cheap.

>>58274133
The x220t screen is too short to be useful. You are fine.

>>58273576
the tablet is a perfect example of lenovo's utter lack of honesty and creativity

opinions on x220 vs x230?

>>58274472
x230 has rapid charge, much better cpu (in terms of power consumption, performance and amount oh generated heat), gpu (like twice as fast as randy bridge one). Plus it accepts 2133MHz RAM.
If you don't like the shitlet keyboard you can replace it with standard x220 one. This takes like 10 minutes.

>>58274472
Went for the X230 because the X220 only has USB 3.0 ports in the i7 version. It's hard to get one of these not overpriced.

>>58274520
oh, also 2x USB 3.0 in any model (even i3 x230)
There is no reason to buy x220, unless you're poor

>>58274515
not >>58274472

Don't you lose some functionality when putting in a X220 keyboard?

>>58274515
>>58274520
>>58274533
thanks for the informing responses guys
guess i'll be looking for a x230 then

>>58273889
What laptop?

>>58274545
yes, one fn+somekey+somekey combination
don't even know which one. Nobody gives a shit

>>58268204
The dock even came with the key, I'm hella psyched.

>>58261332
10/10
I've never thought of playing a rts like that

Wew, finally caved in and bought a X230 for 240€ with 8GB RAM and a 240GB SSD. Actually cheaper than if I'd get a X220, added RAM, SSD and replaced the screen...

>>58261318

So, are there any current Thinkpad models which have a non-trash FHD display option?

Don't want 4K/QHD because battery.

Any good thinkpad netbooks, i have a netbook fetish. (talking 11 inches or less)

>>58275615
you can always scale down 4k to fhd, not like the backlight sucks up any more power because of the resolution...

>>58275797

But the 4k display will still drain the battery faster than a 1080, even if you scale down.

Or, am I wrong?

I want an on-the-go game-dev machine. Thinkpad P50 should be fine right?

Or for the price should I got for a Razer Blade Stealth and the external GPU they do?

>>58275841
most power consumption of the screen comes from whatever backlight tech they are using and the brightness you're running at

higher resolutions will suck up more power because it takes more processing power to run it

the resolution and pixels on their own don't impact power consumption a significant amount

>>58274734
X200 tablet PC

>>58273024

Is this real?

>>58268401
I fell for the Chromebook meme, the build quality is far from what you can get with ThinkPads for the price, and the storage is laughable, don't do it
Just install Linux

>>58276065

ok, cool. thanks!

>>58276550
Worth buying nowadays?

>>58276789
Yes, although if you want something more powerful, go with an X201 or X220 (IIRC X220 has an IPS display as well).

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>decide to try w10 on my X220
>middle mouse button scrolling is backwards
>trackpad gestures are fucked
>nothing fixes it

everything else is fine but these functions are a necessity

>>58276600
What's real? The picture or my conclusion?
Usually other laptop producers like Dell sticks 3200mAh cells to their battery packs, limits the max voltage (so it limits the capacity to about ~2800) and it's designed that way to last much, much more charging cycles when charged to 100%.
Lelnovo sticks 2800mAh cells to their shit batteries and tells you to limit max charge percentage by yourself, so you end up having like 2500mAh per cell if you care about lifespan and you limit it by yourself in power manager.
Also single fucking temperature sensor glued to the nearest cell, while it should be over the center.

Tested battery was the 55++ T520 model from 2011. I also checked one of 70++ T430 models from end of 2015 and it looks exactly same inside.
Fucking lelnovo dirty chinks. IBM PLEASE MAKE THINKPADS GREAT AGAIN

Already have a nice desktop so I'm looking to get a laptop for travel, web-browsing and video. I guess light gaming but it'd be older stuff like HoMM3 and the like.
I found a T430 for $175. It has the 1600x900 res display and the 2.6 i5 in it. Along with 500gb HDD. Charger included.
The only downside is that it has Windows 8 on it. Will windows 8 cause some bullshit problem if I try to install a linux distro onto the laptop or am I looking at a good deal here?

>>58277136
I'm sitting on win8.1/mint dualboot thinkpad, and it's good.

Gonna wait for after CES and see if this is announced. if so, will pre-order one.

https://liliputing.com/2016/12/lenovos-new-thinkpad-x1-carbon-features-slim-bezels-thunderbolt-3-kaby-lake.html

>>58277152
I would like to completely remove windows 8 with the install of a new OS. Windows 8 can be removed from it without any issues?

>>58277173
Why would removing windows be an issue? I've been able to wipe my hard drive and install Linux on an Acer and Lenovo laptop, so there shouldn't be an issue with a Thinkpad

>>58277173
No, there is no issue
you should also get a SSD

>>58261318
Does any faggot know if I can put a 1440p panel into the T440p/s?
The panel says it needs a 40 pin eDP connector, but I don't know if Lenovo has a sort of whitelist of panels or if the original 1080P has the same connector.

>>58265276
Does the mobo has any issue?
I'm thinking on search and buy a used X61 here, then buy the mobo after selling this Crapbook pro.

should i, /tpg/?

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/sys/5874942532.html

Other than the obvious tablet difference, are there any major differences between the x220 and the x220t?

>>58279170
X220T owner here
It's bigger and you get an IPS screen by sure.

>>58279187
Sweet thanks dude. I'm looking at an x220 right now and can't really think of a reason to go with the tablet model.

>>58279201
If you can get a X220 with IPS screen, then don't go for the tablet model.
IMO the X220T has bad construction. Creaks and cracks more than Hillary Clinton bones and health.

>>58279232
Kek thanks for the tip. Just pulled the trigger

>>58279170
x220t is fat as a t420, except a little narrower

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How hard would it be to replace a x220 motherboard?
Can't find an i7 anywhere so I'm considering buying an i5 model and upgrading to an i7 motherboard later if possible.

>>58279468
If you're careful, isn't too difficult.

>>58279170
extended battery on x220t is a 6-cell, regular x220 can get 9-cell batteries

Who's the guy on /g/ that got an old-ish Thinkpad, put an SSD in it and has been using it ever since earlier last year? I remember seeing this person post their Thinkpad a few times on /tpg/ and on laptop suggestion threads.

>>58279468
Same as changing the thermal paste, as you have to take the entire motherboard out, as well as the screen at its hinges. Lenovo has breakdown sheets for everything. Might have to swap in the CMOS battery.
>upgrading to an i7 motherboard
You'll pay a premium (near double last I checked) compared to i5 motherboards for one USB 3.0 port, minor performance increase, and worst temps. Better to get an expresscard USB 3.0 adapter and stick with i5 board, although I can't vouch for the performance compared to native USB.

>>58279953

>Better to get an expresscard USB 3.0 adapter and stick with i5 board, although I can't vouch for the performance compared to native USB.

I actually did some searching myself to find out what Expresscard version is in my x201t. It really depends on whatever Expresscard version is in >>58279468 x220.

If it's Expresscard v1, it's only 2.5Gbps via PCIe. USB 3 is specced at 5Gbps. If it is Expresscard 2.0, it comes with one PCIe 1.0 2.5Gb/s lane and a USB 3 lane. Once again it also depends on which Expresscard 2.0 because there was the option for PCIe 2.0 which is also 5Gbps. It's confusing as fuck.

Also gotta make sure if the Expresscard to USB 3 adapter is using Expresscard v1 or 2.0. But regardless, if it has Expresscard 1.0 like my x201t, putting an Expresscard to USB 3 adapter on it will still give you around 250MB/s of actual usage which should be plenty. Hard drives typically max out at 100MB/s anyways for sequential read/write speeds.

>>58262253
Source?

>>58280038
USB 3.0 Expresscard in my X220 is limited to 2.5 Gb/s and some USB 3.0 things don't work properly through it

>>58280411
oh also it gets pretty warm standing on its own, so that means it's sucking up power

I never use it

>>58280411

Then yeah, it has Expresscard 1.0 just like my x201t.

>>58280422
My expresscard to usb 3 does the same thing, it makes the left palm rest warm and I'm not even using it. It may very well be wasting battery power so I usually take it out now. It's actually really annoying since I don't like my wrists being on hot surfaces when typing.

I guess I'll bring it around but not use it.

Does anyone still have the link to that video of the guy leaving the thinkpad in the front of some restaurant in Times Square and he comes back like 10 minutes later and it isn't stolen? I thought it was pretty funny and wanted to show it to a friend

>Startup finished in 1.732s (kernel) + 422ms (userspace) = 2.155s

r8

Thoughts on the new X1?

>>58278707
Im sitting on a 1080p T440p also, pretty interested as well. If they werent a bit expensive, Id buy one and try it for shits and giggles. Pretty sure the 1080p IPS uses 30pin EDP, but im almost positive the connector is the same.

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Why is laptop memory so fucking expensive compared to desktop memory? I just want to upgrade my new T420 from 4GB to 8GB of RAM, but the cheapest I can find is in the $50-60 range.

Seriously, am I just retarded and shit at shopping, or am I going to have to invest half of the original cost of the entire ThinkPad just to upgrade the RAM? Can anyone give me some recommendations/links for some reasonably priced RAM?

I need a new laptop because the one I'm on now has shit itself and you guys have convinced me to get a thinkpad. I know next to nothing about computers and stuff though and I want to learn. Where do I go to learn?

>>58281537
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#t=9&Z=8192002

go wild

>>58281604
lurking, googling, read all the stuff in the OP

>>58263229
>New Thinkpads are Lenovo garbage
News at 11

>>58281604
If you're looking for a replacement your best bet is Craigslist, or if you can't find something locally you can check ebay. Just picked up a x220 today with i5, 320gb hdd, and 8gb ram for less than $100. Can't wait to get it and have a computer I can basically break and then fix like shaking an etch a sketch and start over and not worry about messing up my main computer.

>>58274545
anyway to make the old kbd backlit ?
shit would be cash

>>58275768
shit i read "taking 11" or less"

>>58280038
what EC does the t410 use ? Waiting for an adapter in the mail.

If the time should come that my T420 dies, what would be the model to get instead? I got mine probably two and a half, years ago and I dread the day it goes. I only ask because by that time the T430 will be up there in age and lol T440 trackpad.

>>58281787
>what EC does the t410 use ? Waiting for an adapter in the mail.

No idea but install and use HWiNFO to find out

>>58281739
You're living the dream, dude.

>>58281912
Will be when I get my first job in tech and outside of nursing. I honestly don't care what it is as long as it's not patient care anymore. Thanks for the encouragement!

My x240 runs slow even after a fresh windows install, is there a way to test the mainboard?
Thinking about replacing it cause I have no clue what can cause it.

Tips on hardening a T500?

>>58281982
try defragmenting if on hdd

>>58265780
if only those mods are cheap. :(
maybe chinks need to pirate this mod and sell it with the display for less than 50.

>>58281997
grsec.

>>58281997
Suicide

Where can I get a Thinkpad in good condition for a good price?

People on Ebay charge a fuck ton.

>>58282209
Country?

>>58282220
USA

Does anybody have a thinkpad with the FHD mod?
Does the backlight work properly in Windows? In Linux?

Any good thinkpads under 11 inches?

Is that true that msata ssds on x220 will be slower than normal ssds?
Also recommend me ssd and ram

>>58282725
thinkwiki.org

What do you guys think about the X60s, X60, and X61 (both tablet versions)? Saw a deal for some on Craigslist, wondering if I should get it or not

>>58282227
Craigslist

>>58282970
Avoid tablet version at all cost. They have ULV Core 2 Duo processors.
ULV processors don't become useful until Haslel.

>>58282982
No good deals, better off getting them on Ebay.

>>58282725
mSATA slot on X220 is limited to SATA2 as opposed to SATA3 of the main drive bay.

Yes it is slower. No it's not noticeable under regular usage.

>>58283084
faster boot times with SATA III when using an SSD???

Ok boys, I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy a new laptop. All I do is write up documents and stuff at uni, browse the net, save images and stuff and play runescape. Is thinkpad the way to go?

The absolute max I would pay would be $450 to $500 but I'd prefer closer to $300 but since this will be my only computer it's okay. I'd like it to last and strong battery life would be good.

What do?

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>>58282209
Found mine in sparkly condition for $160 on ebay. US.

>>58283605
http://ktgee.net/tpg
Get one of the ones with an i5. New they can cost up to $1k but finding them used on ebay in good condition is piss easy and the best route to go.

>>58261332
What pen? (so you don't hurt your screen)

has anyone done the FHD lcd mod for the X220 or X230 here?

I wish to replace the shitty TN panel on my T420 but I cant find the required parts described in this guide http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one
I also read that using the alienware display the screen is still shitty.
What do I do?

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>>58272735
I don't see any kind of light on that underbed desk (or anywhere else for that matter). How do they write in those notebooks at night?

>>58273023
outside

Will we see the retro at ces 2017?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12011451

When do 430's get cheaper

>>58273594
>Are you brown?
According to /pol/, everyone is white.
Half Greek, half Turkish.
But I've been to every country in middle east.
>>58273635
Well, one time at Heathrow the security asked me to turn it on and it had debian server live USB still plugged in.
So it booted to that and the security asked me when it will fully boot up.
It took me a minute to realize what he meant.
>>58273889
Neat.

>>58284139
Thinklight?

>>58273889
That's RA2:YR though.

T420 seems to only have a combo port for headsets. Most headsets I've seen these days seem to have separate jacks for mic and audio though, so what's the solution there?

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Bestpad coming through, HD4000 is love HD4000 is life.

sadly they changed the fingerprint reader design between the x220 and x230.

anyone actually uses the fingeprint reader ?

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>>58286173
I used to. I kind of like the idea of having the bios fingerprint locked and the OS unpassworded but ultimately I can't be bothered.

>>58286173
I do but I travel a lot and there is always a risk of my bag being lost or stolen. I usually only have my tablet in carry-on.

>>58286173
I do but I've always wondered if anyone uses a photographic unlock program like they had on Alienware laptops where it actually verifies your face. Anyone here use something similar?

I just want X230 hardware in an X200 chassis. Is that too much to ask for?

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>>58286173
Biometrics are easy to forge and are not protected by the 5th.

>>58286259
They added it as a feature in Win 8 I'm pretty sure.

~tlp stat
Charge = 96.5 [%]
Capacity = 59.9 [%]

What's going on here?

So I am looking at dropping £3k on a p50. Heavy duty use, modelling, rendering, etc. How long do you think it will last me?

Will be heavy photoshop, blender, unreal engine use.

>>58286259
My work gave out a bunch of surface pro 4's to lead devs and some developer scrum masters. Windows hello seems to work pretty well.

>>58286303
your battery has only 60% of the original capacity

>>58286425
Does this mean I should replace it? Thought it was something with thresholds.

>>58286298
>>58286412
Thanks for the replies guys!

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Does anyone have any experience with the Thinkpad 13, non-chromebook edition?

It looks like a decent machine if you want one without soldered parts.

>>58286241
MGS V on a HD4000? No way, right?

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>>58286241
Now do this.
also
>streaming gaymes
You should definitely remove whitelist restrictions from BIOS with RPi and SOIC-8 clip and mount intel 7260ac wifi card in it for better gaymur experience

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>>58286241

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Glorious.

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>>58286862

>>58286873
Why ariel?

>>58286847
was ist das, mein freund ?

>>58286972
x230 ultrabase
there is enough space to mount anything you want inside

>>58286921
why what?

>>58286735
Yes way. People never believe me when I say MGSV is insanely well optimized but it is. GZ (which I prefer) doesn't work for some reason though. At 1280x720 you get 20fps during regular gameply, at 1024x568 you get a perfectly livable really consistent 25fps - MGSV's strange in that even graphically intense scenes don't reduce FPS much, must be some kind of interesting behind the scenes optimization.

>>58286447
if you use your thinkpad on battery a lot and you want almost double the battery life, you should get a new battery. If it's on your desk 99% of the time and don't use it on battery mode much, then you should be fine with how it is now.

>>58286862
x230 has a back lit keyboard? TIL

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>>58286133
This made me think a bit

1. do all X220 keyboard keys work now with some BIOS mod, or are there still some keys not working on the X230

2.Can I just buy (much cheaper then a full X230) the X230 motherboard, and take apart my X220 and replace the motherboard with X230?

3. Any way to check my current battery is official? I think the X230 doesn't work with third party batteries


Basically instead of buyin a full X230, what parts would I need to buy to just build my own X230 for much cheaper, considering I have an X220 already?

>>58287312
Not every model though

>>58287393
>287393▶
average FPS?

>>58287675
Not my pic
My x220 with a 660Ti can get easily 60fps constant, on medium or high, but pic looks like a weaker gpu
I dont play battlefield much though

>>58287393
Actually interested in all these questions myself

>>58261318
Help with my X220

I'm getting random touches on my screen and it only happens when it's 100% and on the charger

>>58283684
Just the default wacom stylus that comes with with the X200 tablet PC. Not sure about the model number.

>>58288197
did you try disabling touch input

>>58288303
I need it on. I'm googling for the solution and I all I see are complaints about the same thing. I remember fixing it years ago but I recently moved over to an SSD and it came back. I even clean installed and the ghost touches are popping up.

I just hope some anon here has dealt with this.

Right now I'm going to try if a 90w charger makes any difference.

>>58287080
So if I have HD5500 I should run MGSV smoothly ?

>>58272735
OMG this looks so comfy though! I wouldn't mind living in that.

>>58273575
Easy solution this is to just have another hard drive booting Windows as the main. That is what I have on my X230t. SSD running Windows 10 and an mSATA running Xubuntu

>>58288611
You and me both. The problem though is where you would park. I'm guessing rv park? Trailer park?

How much could I pick an x60 up for?

>>58288651
A lot of folks just park overnight at Walmarts and whatever. Yeah thats a good question though.I am currently looking at buying a house and right now I don't see anything that is appealing without signing myself up for a HUGE mortgage. These things are cheap a lot of times and very livable. Maybe one day when I'm retired I can just move to some park with the wife and live there full time in this.

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>>58287788
Got bored, I don't need an X230 or anything more than my x220 so stopped searching for now, might do more later

I had found though that the X230 has a mini display port, which should fit into an X220's base as the hole for the standard displayport is bigger, and that the X230 also has no screwholes in its VGA port, which I don't know if it would fit into an X220's base, which might mean messing with the X220 base or buying an X230 base as well as just the motherboard.

I guess the next main step would be to look up disassembly of X230 and compare it to X220, and find out about the palmrest and if the video connection for screen is the same.

>>58261318
I have an old Thinkpad R60 that sporadically changes brightness and makes hissing sounds when charged for longer periods of time. What's going on with it?

X201T or X220T?

>>58286847
What is inside that ultrabase?
And are you tapping the base power circuit to power the device?

Anyone know where I can pick up a decent t61p or better in London? Ebay listings are shite

>>58288939
I have a X230. It has screw holes in the VGA port.

>pull the trigger on an used X220T
>it fit very very tight inside my budget but at least I got one with an i7 and a 320 GB hard drive preinstalled
>it's from some German reseller who puts them back in condition and then sell them again (I live in Belgium)
>it all looks fine, says that the unit I'm getting might have visual marks but should in no way get in the way of the device working (That's all I care about anyway, I need something to work with, not a decoration object)
>pay trough PayPal, get the bill
>footnote in German : "Minor fractures on the housing! These affect their proper functioning and stability!"

What did they mean by this? Did I just pay 250€ for an unit that's sliced in half? It arrives at my doorstep in roughly 4 days, but if it does end up being broken, how simple is it to fix? I really don't want to go trough the trouble of sending it back after I managed to catch one.

>>58289165
Should mention that my question is "How simple is it to fix a X220T overall", not "Is it simple to fix this undetermined problem".

>>58289165
You got ripped off. It's going to be fucked up. If it's just the chassis, you can replace that. But if you were already stretching your budget then you're shit out of luck.

>>58289210
Well, at least they say in the listing that I can return it for any reason I want and that they pay the cost of shipping, so I guessat least there's that.

>>58283658
Nice, specs?

>>58289165
Why didn't you go with kapaza or 2dehands? Or if you're not an AZERTY fag - marktplaats punt nl?

Genuinely curious.

what would be the reason for a t430s's wifi switch to stop working ? drop ? There's a decent one with 2 batteries, 8gb, 128gb ssd for 200 euros

I'm pretty new to ThinkPads and just got my x220 set up. Only issue is it could use a new battery, what is the consensus for best place to snag one in good condition?

>>58289029
X220t, it's newer and overall better.

>>58289446
Any reputable seller on Amazon, eBay is harder to find the legit ones but they can be costly and are likely the real thing. Just pay with PayPal and you'd be good.

>>58289336
I was originally after a T420 , for which I did go on 2dehands, but found back then that prices on eBay were a little better than there. After much reconsideration (notably the T420's notoriously bad screen and the fact that I don't have a drawing tablet anymore) I decided to go for a X220T instead (Had a heavily used Portege R400 before and loved it) and I just went for a listing on eBay without thinking about it (which was a big mistake considering the listing I just found on 2dehands).

At worst, I can just send it back and get my money back, with which I could buy that other one and still have money for food for a month.

Best GNU/Linux distro that just werks on ThinkPads?

>>58283658
I want one exactly like that, in great condition.

>>58289517
Mint.

>>58289532
lol i am using xubuntu right now and i am getting system errors and you expect mint to not break? ahaha

>>58288275
Really? I have it and I can already see it damaging the screen.

Finally got my new dankpad (t420s) setting up for windows 7 but I was wondering if any of you could help me out with an issue that I'm having. I installed usb drivers and all work except for the powered yellow usb port on the back and no matter how many times I redownload the drivers it will not work. Anyone have any experience have a similar problem?

>>58273024
They work in my vape so shut the fuck up, don't even k.

>>58289896
It's fucked. Open the laptop and swap the little board for a new one.

>>58289923
the only thing with that is that when I plug in a device like a usb muse or something windows notifies me meaning it's recognized but then I receive a note saying that my drivers have been installed incorrectly so I don't think that's the reason.

>want 4 cell battery for X201 Tablet
>full PC with 4 cell bettery is 70% more cost

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X201-Tablet-PC-Laptop-2985FSU-/262761884435?hash=item3d2dd42b13:g:gbIAAOSw2xRYUMN~

Batteries are about $50 new and that used X201 Tablet with battery sold for about $85. I have an 8-cell right now but the bulge is a bit unsightly and not sleek enough.

Cool fuckin' machine though, especially with Ubuntu and an SSD. Battery lasts a long time.

>>58289080
SDR module

> Backlight on T510 stopped working
> Tested with different panel: no backlight either
I figured the only other possibility was a blown fuse on the motherboard, but the fuses near the display connector (F1 and F6) seem to be fine according to my multimeter. F6 had some white powdery stuff around one of the sides though.

Any idea what else could cause the backlight to fail? The LCD cable maybe?

ok, my elitebook is dinged to hell and my touchpad buttons are falling off, thing is that to replace the mouse buttons you need a new frame. I'll be getting a thinkpad seeing as I am autistic and care about aesthetics only. Where do I either
>1
Buy replacements for elitebooks (8460p)
>2
Buy used thinkpads? (T430,x220t)

>>58290385
The inverter.

New thread:
>>58291227

>>58291227
posting from old thread
ok, my elitebook is dinged to hell and my touchpad buttons are falling off, thing is that to replace the mouse buttons you need a new frame. I'll be getting a thinkpad seeing as I am autistic and care about aesthetics only. Where do I either
>1
Buy replacements for elitebooks (8460p)
>2
Buy used thinkpads? (T430,x220t)