/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Just got the majority of the parts for my build, but I think I forgot a third package containing the CPU cooler. Should I not bother trying to turn on the computer without it?


Also, where is everyone?

I'm building a pc mostly for gaming, my budget is ~600
What psu/mobo/case do you recommend? Should i change something?

>>58251466
no probably not, iirc the pc will actually throw errors up if you don't have a CPU cooler

>>58251591
forgot the link https://pcpartpicker.com/list/64C9nn

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PDDkqk
First PC I'll be building.
Mainly going to be used for emulation/game dev stuff.
Anything I could get cheaper/anything more I need?

>>58251614
Evga 430w or 500 Bronze psu
H110m (any company) or B150
Case entirely depends on how nice you want it to look. Lowest you should spend is 30 imo. Rosewill makes decent budget cases.
If you dont have a z170 you can only use 2133 mhz ram so save a few bucks there.
Matching an i5 6500 with a rx 470 is slightly memey but its not the worst. You wont need to upgrade that cpu for a bit while a i3 6100 wont last long. Honestly just get a 4gb 480 mate its worth the ~40 bucks. Also 155 for an i5 6500 so I assume you bought a tray one with no cpu fan? If so get a fan asap.

Should I install a PSU with the fan facing down or up?

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Guys, I need a good case that can fit Corsair's H45 water cooler. You see, the one that I have (Cougar MX300) has too much limitations, and the h45's radiator is quite fat, so it won't fit anywhere.

A case with good top height or that somehow allow me to put the radiator in the back without getting into the PCI-E space.

Send help.

Does anyone have any tips for setting up a drain system for water cooling and overall maintenance on it? I'm trying to do research on it before I get the parts together since I know that I will have to do some kind of maintenance with it, but no one is making it clear enough how to properly flush out the system without doing something wrong.

Any tips for water cooling in general helps a lot too.

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last post >>58252125 had ram left over from an old build, sorry.

Someone redpill a newbie on why I should overclock my cpu. What are the pros and cons?

i use some cpu-intensive programs like FL Studio and Dwarf Fortress

this decides if i get a 6600k or a 6500.
i'm leaning toward the 6600k right now for longevity's sake. here's my current build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HfxPvV

also wondering if this will do well with Das3 at 2560x1080 on high/max settings.

>>58252170
last update before feedback

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNWwD8

>>58251591
>>58251614
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GxNZWX

If you wanna overclock, new CPU/RAM/and in the case of a new GPU, PSU as well.

The downside to this is it's 5 bucks over budget.

The upside to it is that the win 7 OS is locked to the motherboard, which you WONT have to buy a new mobo if you were running something that wasnt the Z170 chipset.

So I have this motherboard: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/k4dFf7/asus-motherboard-z170e, and I want to install Windows 7 on it, but apparently I'm a moron and didn't do my research beforehand. It never occured to me that this mobo and others like it have issues installing Windows 7 from USB (since I didn't bother to get an optical drive with my build), so it seems like my options are the following:

>get an optical drive, install the drivers that are on the included CD and install Win7 with the USB after the face
>do one of the other methods that asus says to do (namely method 3): http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/Z170-K/DE164_100_Series_Windows_7_Setup_Guide_print.pdf
>just say "fuck it" and install Windows 10 or something

Does anyone else have any experience dealing with this?

(My build for reference, I guess: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdrw7h)

>>58251141
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2bZvsJ
Rate my build pls.

>>58253045
generic/10
don't take that as it being bad tho

>>58252132
Have a reservoir at the lowest point and an outlet with a tap on it.

Is it safe/normal to use a current ATX PSU in an older Pentium 3 motherboard?

>>58253202
normal? not really, safe, sure
that standard hasn't changed, it's completely compatable unless your psu uses a one-piece 24pin mobo connector (P3 boards are probably all 20pin)

Opinion on this?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/CXxfrH/corsair-case-cc9011034wled

okay, forward thinkers on this one. current i7 or future i5? nvidia 1080 or future 10xx?

wait 6 months or buy now?

>>58253504
if you're willing to wait six months, wait six months
by then at the very least some stuff will be cheaper and you'll have the full info on everything

If a friend gave me one of those purple glowy Corsair LED fans, should I throw it on my rig even if blatantly unnecessary?

the LED's make it faster, right /g/?

>>58253543
>purple

They won't affect your rig at all. They'll just spin, without creating air. I recommend either red for overclocking, blue for better cooling, or green for increased performance when using Razer products.

>>58253245
Thanks

>>58251805
The i5 6500 was 170 after tax, it does come with fan. So, is this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LWFqNN
The mobo has 2 system fan connectors but the case comes with 3 fans, would i have to remove a fan?

>>58252687
I forgot to add taxes so thats out of my budget but thank you

I've had my computer for a long time now and paid some guy to build it for me back in the day. Now my power supply fan is making a really fucking annoying grinding noise and I need to fix it.

I've replaced a few parts and upgraded some things before but fucking with the power supply is new to me. The noise was driving me insane so I just said fuck it and popped open the power supply and started to fuck with the fan. I oiled it a bit but couldn't see anything else to do with it so I just put it all back together. The fan stopped grinding for a few days but recently started making the noise again.

Should I just replace the power supply all together or replace the fan? I had a fan lying around but the plug for its cord was 3 pronged at the end and the slot for the fan in my power supply only has 2 prongs. Not sure if I need to order a special fan or what.

Is there a relevant PC part supplier for Australians? I don't want to deal with the hassle of warranty from anything sourced overseas and half the part pickers posted involve parts not available here yet.

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>tfw live in Oregon
>tfw no sales tax

>>58252914
You'll give up and install Win 10 in six months anyway.. so I'd say fuck it and do it now.

>>58252002
Down if you have a filter
The fan sucks in air and blows it out the back, if you mount it fan-up it'll inefficiently suck against the gpu's suction

>>58253504
1080ti will be worth waiting for over 1080, 490 might put up some mid-range competition too
Intels CPUs are not changing whatsoever this next generation

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6pqQwV
Budget office-tier build.
I know the PSU is a bit over the top, but I don't have any experience with many other brands.
I also don't know a whole lot about picking drives, is R/W speed a possible bottleneck?

On a scale of 1 to OS X how dumb is getting a used processor?

I'm pretty sure it's dumb, but i've seen a couple of bargains that are tempting.

>>58255742
just be cautious of cpus that are overclockable or popular overclocking chips
if it's possible to see the cpu working before buying, do so

im getting redragon kumara and mx master

convince me a better one. wireless mouse is a must

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qXky8K

Just built this a couple days ago with the intent to game at 144 FPS, add another card down the line, and to overclock both the card and CPU.

How did I do?

is it worth buying a cheap CPU cooler instead of the box cooler if the CPU isn't overclocked?

>>58255691
Get cheaper RAM/mobo and better CPU. For office you don't need an expensive PSU.

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Some fag on craigslist in my area is selling an intel core i7 2600k for $100. I'm more broke than Greece was a while back but I could scavenge that together. Worth it to upgrade from a really shit A10-5800k for that price? What kind of mobo should I get to pair with it? Not gonna be doing any overclocking.

I felt this was more pcbg than sqt

>>58251466
You probably won't see this but DEAR GOD NO.

>>58255872
Its worth not getting a cooler if your not overclocking. You can stick with the stock cooler that comes with a locked CPU if you have no intent of overclocking

>>58255888
wouldn't a better cooler generate a lot less noise?
or would the difference be too small to be worth the money

>>58255944
I more went with this cooler because the way it's shaped doesnt obstruct the memory DIMMS while being pointlessly expensive. Since this was my first ever build I didn't want to deal with researching lengths and worrying about it. And I read it was pretty decent and, using it now, can vouch for it.

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nice video game consoles

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>>58255691
>amd (old)
>hdd
>no dedicated graphics whatsoever

what could possibly cause an SSD to have a lower read/write speed than expected?
the manafacturer claims the read/write speed is 560 and 530 MB/s
most people report performance not much lower than that, meanwhile mine is about 430 / 380
it's still ridiculously fast for me personally but I'm worried it means the SSD is faulty or something

>>58256030
>no dedicated graphics whatsoever
Maybe he's not a structural engineer or physicist who does fluid simulations

Guys need a cooler thats silent for my phenom II x4 965 for under 15 bucks is that possible?

>>58255879
I saw it. I decided to just wait and not bother installing the MOBO without it.

>>58254633
What do you mean? Just set pcpartpicker to Australia.

Does it matter which brand 480 I get or are they all comparable? 8gb

>>58256431
Also I have ordered this one should I cancel?
https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/alpine-64-plus.html

>>58256468
MSI or Gigabyte are the standards. Any other literal who company and you'll get trouble.

>>58255742
CPUs are the part least likely to have problems, so it should be fairly safe, at least compared to buying other parts used.

>>58255874
>Worth it to upgrade from a really shit A10-5800k for that price?
Depends on if you can get a compatible MOBO for a reasonable price.

>>58251141
Probably a bit of an autistic question, but where do I start if I want to resell parts? Is it easier to sell individual parts, or are there places that take the whole thing? If I can let it go all in one piece, should I leave the Windows installation on it (without personal data of course) or can I take the drives out and just sell the rest?

Getting bitched at to get rid of an entire custom built box I used that isn't too old, but was cheap for a gaming PC at the time.

>>58256532
Get out retard. Gigabyte RX480 have been proven to have an utter garbage PCB. MSI is only viable because it's Twin Frozr HSF design.

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1080 Ti when

Is this a solid build for my first PC? I've been autistically researching the internet and youtube for spec advice and building tips and all that. I'm guessing this is a fairly run-of-the-mill build but any advice would be appreciated.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2rxtkT

>>58256770
>that budget
>120 GB SSD
120 GB is barely enough for Windows and 2 or 3 games these days. Go for at least 240GB.

>>58256813
ty

Sapphire Radeon RX 480 NITRO+ 8G OC
vs.
XFX Radeon RX 480 RS 8GB

The XFX is 10 euro cheaper, but I think it's just a modified reference, while the sapphire is a custom PCB.

>>58256468
I'm rolling Sapphire and it's been amazing so far

Can I reasonably expect a good result with hard tubing for water cooling if I have no experience but I take it very carefully and watch and read every tutorial I can find?

>>58256645
>not ryzen
>not vega
please delete yourself from this website

Hey guys how's this gaming build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDhxTH

Not sure if I wanna get GTX 1050 or 1060?
Recommendations?

>>58257103
>falling for the AMD meme
Never again.

>>58257145
Enjoy your nvidiot shillworks botnet

>>58257118
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MDMKnn

Updated with monitor

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>>58257103
>2017
>recommending Advanced Meme Devices

>>58257118
Spend less on mobo
Get a WD blue HDD
Where's the SSD?
Spend less on the case
Do you really need an AIO? Get a decent air cooler instead.
Buy a windows key from key sites that sell them for less than $20

>>58257118
>>58257189
Also why the fuck is your motherboard ITX but the case is a full tower? Get your shit checked.

i7 6700k

No overclocking planned. Stock cooler should be enough, right?
Alternatively, I have an old "Scythe Mine revB" for LGA 775. Apparently there are conversion parts (not sold anymore, but I found some on amazon) to 1366.

So, is a 1366 cooler compatible with 1151?
Found some conflicting information. Some say it should work, others say that the height isn't correct and I'd need washers.

>>58257281
Nevermind, the Scythe page lists it as compatible to 1151.

Still, any intel stock cooler should be enough if I don't plan on OCing, right?

>>58254646
Why's that?

>>58257281
The i7 6700K doesn't come with a stock HSF. The i7 6700 (no K) does include a HSF but is locked and can't be overclocked. If you're never going to overclock and you find it cheaper might as well get the non-K.

Stock coolers work fine at stock clocks but are loud compared to good aftermarket ones.

>>58257323
>might as well get the non-K.
I thought about that, but the K has a bit higher clock speed for only 20€ more. Same for the Motherboard. Originally, I was fine with a B150 chipset, but the Z170 allows for higher RAM speed, which does make a difference for me.
In the end, I would only pay 50€ less if I get a halfway decent B150+6700+ddr4-2133 vs z170+6700K+ddr4-3200.
In the price range of 550-600€, I think that's still acceptable for what I get more.

>The i7 6700K doesn't come with a stock HSF
Yeah, but I can get the stock HSF for less than 10€ (or alternatively the mounting brackets for my old HSF for 6€).

>>58257323
>loud compared to good aftermarket ones
what about the cheaper ones? are they quieter as well or would there be no difference?

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Best mouse in 50€ range? I can stretch it a little

>>58257189
I'll be getting a cooler from a local store and the only proper cooler they got is the Corsair where I wanted to get the Cryorig but they don't have it. what can I get instead of Corsair?

The case was a mistake I'm getting the 200R

>>58257587
Moinix Castor, Logitech G whatever costs 50€, Corsair whatever it's called the mouse looks weird anyways, Razer Deathadder, Zowie if they offer something in that range and others...
There is no "best" mouse, the choice is always yours and depend on what you need it for and how you grab your mouse.

>>58257435
>stock Intel cooler
>on i7-6700K
There's a reason unlocked CPUs don't come with a stock cooler, you know?

>>58257837
Because almost everyone only buys K to overclock, which doesn't apply to me?

Anyway, by now I decided to just use my old Scythe Mine revB, which should be sufficient.

Is this a good build?
I need something small that I can put away whenever i want to.

>>58257866
That, and because Intel stock coolers suck and 6700k is a 91w CPU compared to 65W for the non-k SKUs.

>>58257879
Looks good anon. Just save your money.

>>58257866
>almost everyone only buys K to overclock, which doesn't apply to me?
Then don't buy an unlocked CPU, maybe? It's stupid to waste money like that, why would you?

>>58257879
Whoops forgot link derp
https://youtu.be/aycJRXPRJQQ

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>>58257866
>buys K to overclock, which doesn't apply to me

>>58257893
>why would you?
see
>>58257435
>the K has a bit higher clock speed for only 20€ more.

>>58257898
Never build a "budget build" for gaming. Sacrificing because you're impatient is a waste of money in the long run. Sure you can play games, but your benchmarks are shit and your pc is going to age like milk.

>>58257893
To be fair, 6700k comes with higher clocks and isn't that much more expensive, so it actually works out to be pretty good price/perf vs. the 6700.

>>58257911
Ok, let me tell you this. First, Z170 does NOT allow you higher RAM clocks natively, you will have to use XMP profiles to OC or even do it manually since there are several issues with RAM OC and Z170.
Second, the 20€ are not worth the money if you don't OC, you are willingly wasting money. Third, the cheapest Z170 mobo will still be at least 20 bucks more expensive than an expensive B150 mobo.
If your build if for gaming only, then this build becomes even more stupid, 6500 should be your choice. If you desperately need HT/Cores, maybe waiting for Zen is the right choice for you.
TL;DR what you do is wasting money and should not be done.

>>58257926
>pretty good price/perf
Not in my book.

>>58257921
Well I need a small pc so that I can put it away in my wall locker at ait

>>58258034
>Not in my book.
10% higher price for 17% higher base clocks isn't worth it?

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Thinking about upgrading from my old 680 since I'm starting to lose frames in a lot of things.

With what you see here, what do you think I should replace it with?

Not really wanting to spend more than $200 on the GPU.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PDDkqk
First PC I'll be building.
Will mostly be used for emulation and game dev stuff.
Anything I could go for cheaper/more I need?

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>>58251141
How'd I do?

RAM for virtualization fyi

>>58258034
Thanks for the long reply.
>Third, the cheapest Z170 mobo will still be at least 20 bucks more expensive than an expensive B150 mobo.
>Second, the 20€ are not worth the money if you don't OC, you are willingly wasting money.
I'm willing to pay 40€ extra for faster ram and higher CPU clock speed. I'm aware that this is the only reason to use 6700K/Z170 over 6700/B150 respectively.
>First, Z170 does NOT allow you higher RAM clocks natively, you will have to use XMP profiles to OC or even do it manually since there are several issues with RAM OC and Z170.
Just so I'm not misunderstanding you here, a Z170 that supports DDR4-2133 / 2400 / 2800 / 3200 does not allow me to use DDR4-3200 ram at 3200 unless I overclock?


>If your build if for gaming only
I don't intend to play video games on this at all. PS and Lightroom plus virtualization and some bioinformatics stuff are probably the most resource intensive programs.

>maybe waiting for Zen is the right choice for you.
Worth thinking about. When will that be?

>>58258084
Considering you need a custom cooler for it, no. He said he has some Scythe, but that one isn't supported for 1151, so either he needs to buy a mounting kit if available, or a new cooler.

>>58258602
>so either he needs to buy a mounting kit if available
Yeah, it's 6€, already checked.

>>58258606
>it's 6€
Shipping? New fan? I doubt that fan will still be fine, even if it's a Scythe.
Imho it's stupid no matter how you try to reason. What do you need an i7 for anyways?

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Alrighty boys, the processor is finally here and I'm ready to fucking kill myself. If everything goes well, new PC on January.

>>58258644
Several adobe programs running at the same time. Often with browser open with dozens of tabs.
Shipping is free, why don't you think the fan is fine? I'm using it right now and I haven't had an increase in temperature or fan speed since I started using it.

How do I align the mobo to the backplate for the asus 170 pro?

>>58258693
>why don't you think the fan is fine?
How old is that thing? LGA775? 6 years? Fans don't last forever. If yours is fine it's ok, but if it doesn't spin "correctly" anymore or gets disturbingly loud it's probably the bearing.
Considering your usage an i7 is a good choice, but imho you should consider to OC. It isn't that "hard" anymore with UEFI, mutlipliers, other software, etc. and there's a load of vids online.

>>58258695
By reading the manual of your HSF.

Are all the sites on PCPartPicker legit?

>>58258822
>If yours is fine it's ok, but if it doesn't spin "correctly" anymore or gets disturbingly loud it's probably the bearing.
I'll keep that in mind, but for now it works fine.
> you should consider to OC. It isn't that "hard" anymore
I am currently OCing my Processor, so I'm confident that I'd have no problems with that. It's just not a priority for me.
Another argument that speaks for Z170/6700K -- I have the option to OC later if I want to.

Thanks again.

Could I get away with a 2GB GPU? Or is 4GB basically the minimum these days?

>>58258973
If you're buying a low-end card like 460, 2 GB should be enough. It's only if you're getting a mid-range card that 4 GB is the minimum.

>>58258973
4GB is the minimum if you want to play any recent game. If you're only playing older stuff or whatever then 2GB is enough.

>>58258249
>asustek
>1060
>chinkshit ssd
Pretty badly.

>>58259020
>Asus is somehow bad
>1060 6G is somehow bad
>PNY is somehow bad
>PNY is chink
Get off this board.

>>58259006
>>58259020
The one I'm looking at now is the Sapphire RX460 which is 4GB and £110. It doesn't seem too worth it to drop to like £30-40 lower for half the performance, so I might just order this one.
Are there any unreliable manufacturers/GPUs to avoid or are they all basically the same?

>>58259074
>half the performance
>>>/v/
The amount of VRAM has zero impact on performance unless you run out. And you're rarely if ever going to run out unless you try to play games on settings at which the 460 would shit itself ANYWAY. Getting the higher VRAM version of a GPU rarely makes sense for gaming(although there are exceptions like the 1060).

What compatibility issues arise with form factors?
Will anything that's Micro ATX fit into an ATX case?
Does it make a difference to performance at all?

is there any problem in getting a 430w power supply for a ~250w build? it'd be cheaper

>>58259147
>The amount of VRAM has zero impact on performance unless you run out
The think isthe same gpus but with higher vram also have faster memory.

>>58259375
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-power-color-radeon-rx-460-red-dragon-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-7000mhz-gddr5-1212mhz-boost-896-stream?utm_source=pc%20part%20picker&utm_medium=referral
vs https://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-power-color-radeon-rx-460-red-dragon-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-7000mhz-gddr5-1212mhz-boost-896-stream?utm_source=pc%20part%20picker&utm_medium=referral
Both have 7000MHz GDDR5 VRAM. And they're identical models save for the fact that one has 2 GB of VRAM and the other has 4. SOMETIMES the models with double VRAM have faster memory, but not always.

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pic related are my specs, computer is about 3 years old

which graphics card under $300 (if possible) do you recommend so that i run Escape From Tarkov

recommended specs for the game:

OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64 Bit)
Processor: quad-core processor 3.2 GHz (Intel i5, i7), ?? 3.6 GHz (AMD FX, Athlon)
RAM: from 8 GB
Graphics Card: DX11 compatible graphics card with 2 GB or more of memory
Sound: DirectX compatible audio card
Network: permanent connection to the Internet
Disk space: from 8 GB

>>58259523
ive never upgraded a pc before and know nothing about hardware
thanks

>>58259362
No, it's absolutely fine, but make sure it's at least 80+ rated and from a company you have heard before.

>>58259020
>PNY is chinkshit because I haven't heard of it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNY_Technologies
Kys your'reself.

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it begins.

how am i doing?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kD2fVY

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>finish installing the evo 212 on the motherboard
>4 screws unused
Boy I can already see this is gonna be one working PC.

>>58259813
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rzY7M8
FTFY. Your mobo is shit and not worth 123 bucks though.

>>58260173
well, too late

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The HD Audio Port is hard as fuck. I've been pushing that shit but it won't go in. What do

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Thoughts on pic related?
Laptop keyboards feel the best and this looks like it's the closest thing to it.

you guys think I can run a game (fairly intensive) on one screen and run a CAD program on another with a i76700k and a 1070 with 16gb of ram?

>>58260986
What game?

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Is this bad for my CPU around startup? I'm thinking its wrong but I just got liquid cooling and before I was idling around 50. I have AMD FX-8350

>>58260986

haha why though

>>58260986
What do you mean run a CAD program? Just leaving it open and idle without doing anything? I don't expect that would be much of a problem unless it's using a lot of RAM and 16GB isn't enough.

I need a new Mobo, fucked the pins in my last one and one came out while i was trying to fix it
New one has to have 1151 sockets but a VGA graphics output
anyone know of any?

>>58261426
preferably on the cheaper side

>>58261349
The CPU sensor often won't be accurate at low temperatures. It's normal for it to be wrong.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zBF3WX
How unneccesarily overpriced is this build for 1080p gaming at 100FPS?

>>58261589
Get a mobo with LEDs, otherwise you'll lose FPS in games.

>>58261624
What color? Blue so it stays cooler or red so it goes super duper fast.

>>58261659
Purple.

>>58261659
Green. Razer and Nvidia colored LEDs have the highest impact on your gaming rigs performance.

>>58261666
What sort of heresey is this?

>>58261589
It's vastly overkill in several ways.

>>58261349
It's wrong, that's impossible unless your room is at a lower temperature than 7C, with liquid cooling (or air). I actually mean it, it's physically impossible. The reading is definitely incorrect.

>>58261906
How so?

>>58261973
i7 6700k itself is overkill for a 1080p 100FPS target
Your RAM choice is weird, a 2x4GB kit and a 2x8GB kit, is that a mistake? 2x8GB is more than fine. If you have some special use that needs a lot of RAM I'd still suggest 4x8GB rather than 2 pairs of differently sized modules.
960 Pro is supreme overkill for... pretty much everything. There is no reason to buy one unless you have a well-defined use case that requires this sort of I/O performance.
GTX 1080 is also vast overkill for 1080p, you could probably do with a 1060 or RX 480, if not a 1070.
Monitor is also extreme overkill, why buy one of the most expensive "gaming" monitors on the market if you want 1080p? Just buy a 1080p 144Hz monitor. If you want more work area buy more monitors, you'd still end up paying less and even get higher refresh rate. Also 1080p will look blurry and bad in full-screen on that monitor.

>>58261973
It seems you are misinformed/ignorant. why get a gpu that can outpace you monitor? the number of people who have something along the lines of an rx480 and up with a 1080p 60hz monitor is staggering. you and that guy getting an unlocked cpu with no intention of overclocking
>>58262073
he should honestly just get a prebuilt if he is going to waste so much on components that are colossal overkill for 1080p. even a 1070 is waay overkill for 1080p

>all my edges

>>58262073
I went with the 6700k with the idea that i wouldn't have to upgrade for 4-5 years
The RAM total of 24 gigs, seemed like a good number because i tend to have a lot of programs open at once.
The 960 Pro, i don't have any experience with SSDs so my knowledge of them is limited to the articles i can read onlin. So admittedly i just saw higher read/write speeds and assumed it was better then a SATA 3 SSD.
The single 1080 because i was told a single card couldn't push 100 FPS at maximum settings in any given game at 3440x1440.
And lastly the monitor because i've seen them in person and i liked how it looked, thats it.

Though i have to ask, how come you didn't bring up the PSU? I expected it to come up as expensive and not needed.

>>58262145
You're right, i am ignorant on the subject and im looking to learn.
So i poured over the /g/ wikia and put my new found knowledge to the test and from there i looked at as many reviews as i could.

>>58262188
why would you ask if it is overkill for 1080p if you are going to be playing at 3440x1440? there is no point getting the pro for the average person. just get the evo. i7 is also completely unnecessary for gaming

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Enthoo Evolv mATX or Node 304? I want something mostly metal, quiet, and compact with good drive support.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BWsgZ8

Mainly for gaming, and photo/video editing. I feel like an i7 and 1070 would be overkill for my use case but I am still considering dropping the extra couple hundred for future proofing (especially with a new monitor down the line) and heavier editing/multitasking load. Otherwise the 6600k and 1060 seems like they'll do me fine.

Anything I'm missing with this?

>>58262145
What if I told you GPU can do things other than graphics

>>58262188
>I went with the 6700k with the idea that i wouldn't have to upgrade for 4-5 years
I guess. Moving down to a 6600k wouldn't save all too much.
>The RAM total of 24 gigs, seemed like a good number because i tend to have a lot of programs open at once.
It's pretty hard to fill 16GB and you can always add another 16 later. Even so, with how liberally you add $600+ SSDs and $1100+ monitors, why not pay another $20 for 32?
>The 960 Pro, i don't have any experience with SSDs so my knowledge of them is limited to the articles i can read onlin. So admittedly i just saw higher read/write speeds and assumed it was better then a SATA 3 SSD.
It is better, but unless you're doing something very specific that you know needs the speed you will not actually notice it during normal use over any regular SSD. 850 EVO 500GB for instance is much better value, even 850 EVO 1TB if you think you actually have a use for that much SSD space
>The single 1080 because i was told a single card couldn't push 100 FPS at maximum settings in any given game at 3440x1440.
It cannot push 100FPS at *3440x1440* but you said you wanted to play at 1920x1080, which is much lower. It's not enough for 3440x1440 and it's too much for 1920x1080
>And lastly the monitor because i've seen them in person and i liked how it looked, thats it.
You should look at more monitors. I haven't seen that one in person but I've seen and used plenty of IPS screens, unless you get something really shit there won't be a huge difference. With that Acer you're paying for the "gaming" brand and refresh rate, you will surely find a nice 1080p 144Hz monitor if you look for one, for much less.
>Though i have to ask, how come you didn't bring up the PSU? I expected it to come up as expensive and not needed.
Paying for a Titanium PSU is indeed an expense that the minor increase in efficiency will likely never pay off, but it's still a fairly cheap component compared to some of the other stuff you've got on that list.

>>58262412
because he is going to be doing things other than rendering graphics
>>58262346
if you make a living from editing then upgrade, otherwise get the 1070. it'll do you fine for 144hz 1080p for a good while. no need to get an i7 for gaming ever unless you have money to burn

>>58262463
its an awesome monitor I have it. gsync, the refresh rate, and the resolution are awesome if you are coming from 1080p 60hz or console gaming (which I was). I agree ips is a meme for gaming. my 980 ti is enough to drive it well so the 1080 is even better. the x34 is a monitor that is so hard to drive at 100hz max settings that purchasing any top tier gpu is justified

>>58262528
>my 980 ti is enough to drive it well so the 1080 is even better
Sure, in not very demanding games or if you significantly drop settings. If you want to get top-tier settings (not necessarily absolutely max) and ~100FPS you'll need 1080 SLI. Driving 3440x1440 @ 100FPS involves pushing almost the same amount of pixels as 4K @ 60Hz. A single 1080 is far insufficient, even for some older games like Witcher 3.

so i don't plan on building a whole new pc as my current one is running well and mostly without issue (other than win10 and it's shitty memory leak issues).

i have a 4690k at 4.4ghz and a gtx 980 at 1.27 ghz base. i also have a single wd 1tb hdd and 8gb of corsair 1600 mhz ram overclocked to 2133 mhz.

what would be the logical upgrades and in what order? more ram? ssd? maybe a new gpu (even though the 980 is fine for me at 1080p)? maybe a used 4790k?

i want to get the most out of this current set up before i build a whole new pc in probably a years time at minimum.

I have an FX 6300 right now with my GTX 970 and was looking at upgrading because I get CPU bottlenecks in a lot of games
What's the best CPU/mobo combo I can get for under 400? What about 300?

>>58262463
You mentioned a very specific situation that an 960's speed would be fully utilized, what would that situation be? I ask only out of curiosity.

What reasons could there be for my GPU running at ~15 degrees C higher than it should be when idling? All other components are at normal temps. I have two monitors, but I don't think that should have such a high impact

>>58262675
I honestly don't know what you'd use it for. Maybe working with 4K video and needing to scrub through it a lot or something?

>>58262624
my framerates are pretty high, high enough where I don't notice it going much below 60 fps. games like bf4, battlefront, doom, and rise of the tomb raider default to ultra settings and I saw at least 60 fps. the jungle section of tomb raider brought it down to 30 fps though. I reduced bf4 to the high preset with ultra meshes and lighting to make sure fps was 80 or higher. I have turned off the frame counter though because the hunt for more frames was taking away from the fun of playing a game. I guarantee you from personal experience you will have smooth gaming on the x34 with a 980ti or above using the high preset or greater. feel free not to believe me

>>58262678
is your psu blowing hot air on it? is there dust in the cooler? did something change after a driver update?

>>58262666
i5-6400 is the cheapest skylake i5. For mobo you'll have to research it yourself (do you need mATX or ATX, is 2 RAM slots okay, is a 16GB RAM limit okay, etc.).

Is there some way to install a fresh OS with only 2 hard drives and no peripherals? Like installing an OS onto drive B from drive A's installation or something

>>58262736
Nah, 60FPS and High preset I can believe, that's what I'd expect actually. Still that's actually very far from a solid 100 and sometimes dropping to High can mean visibly losing quality, especially if you have to drop high-quality AA. The monitor isn't high DPI, I'd want at least 4x MSAA or equivalent quality.

>>58262637
At 1080p I'd sit on my ass and not change anything yet, there shouldn't be much need at this time. If you ever upgrade to a higher res monitor the graphics card would have to go first. Get a SSD though, won't do much for games but can make your computer in general much more responsive. You can get a 850 EVO 250GB or something for <$100

>>58262746
It might be the CPU fan blowing air on it, but I don't really have a way to fix that besides get a heatsink that extends past the entire GPU

>>58262666
you will need to buy DDR4 RAM if you switch to intel. wait for Q2 2017 for a more noticeable improvement, right now it's not worth it.

>>58262678
What clocks is it running at? It may not be running in the lowest idle state.

>>58262892
The clock rate is 898 MHz with a browser open. I was going to say I think that's fine for a GTX 1060, but I checked and that's way too high. Turns out it's probably because one of my monitors is a 144 Hz monitor, because changing the refresh rate to 120 Hz dropped the clock rate to 607 MHz. Whoops. Thanks though

Windows isn't recognizing my Nvidia drivers, am I fucked?

building a pc for my mom to use for email/facebook

i3 or i5?
going to be using integrated graphics

>>58262341
Mh... i'm not sure something like that even exists.
Mostly metal and compact shouldn't be a problem, there are a lot of cases with drive support too but quiet can be a problem.
The best option for a quiet system would be a quiet case, but i don't know a single one that fits your criteria.

>>58263015
>building a pc for my mom to use for email/facebook
i3, at most. A G4400 or AMD APU would be more than enough and much cheaper.

>>58262972
Yeah, different monitor configurations will push cards higher than you'd expect. My main 1080 idles at a staggering 1304MHz with memory at full 3D clock, because I have 3 monitors and one of them is 4K. With 2 monitors it idles at 240MHz. I'm not sure how far down 1060s clock, but since my 1080s go down to 240MHz, 607MHz may still not be the lowest power state.

>>58258084
But you could overclock and easily get 60% more performance
That isn't good in your book?
You're already buying the OVERCLOCKABLE CPU that doesn't come with a cooler because you're expected to OVERCLOCK IT

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xqmPQV First planned build, any suggestions?

>>58262841
Well those are the games I play the most. I was pretty astounded when battlefront defaulted to ultra preset. It looks amazing and is over 60 fps. Doom I can play at ultra/nightmare and it might dip to 75 fps. 980ti is the minimum for this monitor and it drives it pretty well

>ssd won't do much for games

except for load times which is pretty nice

>>58262624
>just as many pixels as 4K
>100Hz
>he thinks GPU power scales with resolution and not frequency
>He doesn't understand that high fps is twice as hard to hold up while 1440p ultra meme is much easier to sustain at 60fps
Even Intel integrated graphics "push as many pixels as 4k" you ignorant prick

>>58262624
>have a 1070
>Get 100fps on witcher 3 at 2560x1440
>good enough for 1080p is child's play, get a rx480

>>58262675
A situation where the drive read speed is the bottleneck in a file transfer
Other than copying 50GB folders back and forth, I haven't found a single speed advantage in my 950 pro, clearly my SSD outpaces the rest of my PC (which is pretty damn good)
Get a good cheap SATA SSD, you won't be disappointed

>>58263149
Switch the NEX for a G2. Mobo and AIO are overkill unless you want to OC that CPU to shit, but even then it's questionable. Case is good but meme.
You could probably squeeze a GTX1080 in if you'd settle for a cheaper mobo, cooler and case. What is that i7 for? If it's for gaming, consider dropping down to a 6600K or 6500.

have about 400 leaf dollaroos for a graphics card, what should I get?

>>58263194
You're too stupid to be worth a proper reply, I just thought I'd let you know.

>>58263269
>get a 6500 instead of 6600k
>squeeze in a 1080
You're retarded
>>58263149
Your build is good, get a cheaper motherboard (save $150) and a cheap aircooler if your autism allows for it (save $100), aircoolers will last longer
You probably don't need the 6700k but you need it more than you need a 1080

>>58263269
Thank you for the response! Its mainly a Gaming rig but almost every thread ive been in the i7 gets a few more FPS and can handle tasks better so for a little more money I said why down step. Whats the difference between the NEX and G2 if I may ask? And again first build but I do plan to Overclock or at least learn how to....

>>58263343
And if you get a cheaper cooler that doesn't look A E S T H E T I C, you can also get a cheaper case (save $100) and not worry about an ugly aircooler, which will last longer than a watercooler anyways

>>58263338
Well you're too stupid to give advice you, you already know what you want so get it you prick, that's how many thousands of dollars of PC just to play like my $1100 computer does?

>>58263343
>get a 6500 instead of 6600k
>t. illiterate retard
Fuck off, autist.

>>58263389
He said 6700k you illiterate, recommending a 6500 as replacement (or even as a replacement to a 6600k on a Z170 fast ram build) is retarded

>>58263389
He's right though, the 6500 is a better value than a 6600, but a 6600k can be overclocked to btfo a 6600 or 6500k, and he already has built his PC around "K" CPU so why change everything to lose serious performance to save $20?
For a 1080? THATS a retarded buy

>>58263419
>>58263389
>>58263269
Not to mention he wanted a 6700k in the first place...

>>58263350
>a few more FPS
Which is in no relation to the price. If you won't properly use HT your far better of saving the 100 bucks and getting a 6600K or 6500.
>NEX and G2
Internals on the G2 are far better since it's based on i believe the Super Flower Leadex II platform.

>>58263399
Jesus Christ fuck off you autistic retard. I recommended him a 6600K or 6500 instead of the 6700K because for muh gaming rig a 6600K or 6500 have a far better price/performance ratio than a 6700K.
Such a CPU also allows a better GPU for the same budget.

>>58263419
>>58263448
Read above, also if he wants to waste money, i don't care. If stated that 6500 and 6600K have much better value for money for only gaming and you KNOW it's correct.

>>58263460
Yeah because a 1080, probably the absolute worst value GPU of this generation, at the worst time to buy a 1080, which has 15% better performance than the 1070 that he already picked for $200 cheaper is what he needs and a 6700k is useless
My 1070 eats up 1440p/144hz like nothing, my 6600k is pinned at 98% usage in nearly every game, do you think I should buy a 1080 to fix this problem you shit brain?
Are people not allowed to need hyperthreading because something else exists for cheaper?

>>58263460
6600k has insanely better value than 6500 or 6600 though
Like it's just fucking stupid to deny yourself almost a GHz of free speed for $20 savings

>>58263491
No need for the hostility, but I understand the 1080ti is coming soon and im sure would be a much better price/perfomance than the 1080, any possibility that next year we will see the 1100 series of cards?

>>58263499
Unless of course you have a non-z170 and slow ram, which is the whole context for the "get the 6500 to save money" meme in the first place

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Is it worth upgrading from a phenom II x4 965 to a i5 6500?
Most taxing stuff I do is gayming.
Like will I see perfomance gains?

>>58263524
Probably not, but judging by the last ti, the 1080ti will be a strong contender in the 11-series gpus, just like the 980ti nearly matches a 1070 now. It is confirmed to be a modified Titan XP and is rumored to be over $800.
Depending on your resolution and Hz, it's a fucking pointless product for gaymen, but it is 4K 60fps capable on high/max settings. The next step down, 1440p/144fps, can be achieved on most games by a 1070, and by most others on a 1080. The 1080 is just too close to the 1070, they both can do the same resolution/Hz just fine and they both cannot do 4K/60hz

Waiting for Zen+ and Navi boys

>>58263491
>because a 1080, probably the absolute worst value GPU of this generation, at the worst time to buy a 1080
How retarded are you exaclty you fucking autist.
Every top of the line product has shit value, every single one. You know why? Because the manufacturers know there is no competition and they can dictate the price.
Nobody said he has to buy it now, idiot.

>Are people not allowed to need hyperthreading because something else exists for cheaper?
Where the fuck did i say that you illiterate, projecting retard?

>6600k is pinned at 98% usage in nearly every game
Like some heavily modded, non optimized autism game?

>>58263499
>6600k has insanely better value than 6500 or 6600 though
I never said or implied that this isn't the case you illiterate fuck. I even recommended the 6600K.

>>58263583
But a 6700k is still a good choice, it will continue to be a good choice as long as dx12 games keep coming out
There's already dozens of brand new games using hyperthreading well

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>>58263583
You said he should buy a 1080, and gave him no reason to believe you, now you are saying not to, good to see you coming to your senses
You also said he should get a 6500, for his Z170 and 3000mhz ram build, because "that's all you need for games" which is blatantly wrong

>>58263583
Most of the Microsoft exclusive games run like that unless you have hyperthreading or a thousand cores

>>58263608
Never said the 6700K is a bad CPU, it just has worse value than a 6600K.
Personally i plan on a new build and if i find some good deals it's going to be a 6700K, just without a GPU since i don't need one.

>>58263627
>hurr i cant read durr
This is you right now. I never said he shouldn't buy the 1080, retard. I explained to you how prices work since you don't know economics101.

>You also said he should get a 6500, for his Z170 and 3000mhz ram build
No i didn't. Again you are too fucking stupid to read. I said the 6600K and 6500 are alternatives with better price/performance ratio.
If you are too stupid to read you should probably spend your time on some reading comprehension lessons instead of shitposting here, faggot.

>>58263636
>Microsoft exclusive games
There you go, shit games.

>>58263627
Please enlighten me then (The first time builder). Do you feel the i7 would be a good choice, is the 1080 a bad price/performace spot, and what is a good MOBO and RAM mhz speed to achieve. (Since I hear that you have to manually overclock ram now to achieve the advertised speeds?)

>>58263673
So what is your opinion of the build?
No memes please
You're saying scrap the build, get a B150 board, 6500, 2133mhz ram and a GTX 1080?

>>58262789
>6600k has insanely better value than 6500 or 6600 though
Compared to 6500? $200 vs $250 + whatever you spent on a cooler, not to mention the extra you need to spend to get a z170 motherboard instead of B150 or H110 and possibly a beefier PSU as well... you have to overclock it pretty far to match 6500 for price/performance once you start looking at the total cost.

>>58263685
I think the 6700k isn't a bad choice, but the 6600k (with a simple multiplier overclock, which you can't do with a 6500) will satisfy games needs. This decision I would leave to you to decide if you really need the extra $100
The 1080 is a horrible price/performance in my opinion. It's $600, the 1080ti is about to blow it away for $800 (or push 1080 prices down), and unless you're running absolutely maxed 1440p/144hz, you could get away with a 1070 for $400 and be fine
Ram is easy as long as you keep the Z170 motherboard (get a cheaper one but keep Z170), all you have to do is enable XMP in the bios and it should auto-clock your ram to what is advertised. I believe you can manually overclock your ram more but I never fucked with that

>>58263700
See this is what I would like to know as well, am I just overkilling my build and wasting money, or is this the supposed economical "sweet spot" we should all agree to settle on?

>>58263762
What he's suggesting is a good deal (the 1080 is still fucking dumb) but I'm sure you're not building to get "just what you need" to play games
I personally get worried when I see my 6600k at such high usage when I know the game uses hyperthreading well. It's never been an actual problem with my 6600k in games even at 98% usage, but I wouldn't throw a 6700k option out the window either
But yeah, 6500+B150+2133mhz ram is pretty much the best *value* you can get and still play modern games (with a GPU to match your monitor)

>>58263758
Again, I can not thank you enough for taking the time to help. My biggest problem with Motherboards is the lack of understanding what makes one different from another, in terms of quality, ports, sound cards, etc. What is needed and what is not. I do not plan on SLI, since I believe its not worth the effort/price.

>>58263811
I just think a 6700k(or 6600k)+Z170+3000mhz ram is also worth getting if you're not trying to budget

>>58263700
No. I am saying that there are cheaper alternatives depending on what you do and how much you want to spend.
Imho 6600K + Z170 + 3000 RAM + 1070/1080 is what you should probably get, 1080 is the currently best GPU (1080ti will be in Q1), the 1070 is great and has better value but won'T allow you to max out each and every game.
The 6500 is a good option for cheaper builds with excellent value for money, paired with a GTX1060/1070 or RX470/480.
The i7-6700K is a great CPU but has only mediocore value if you only play games on it, if you insist on it, do as you like. If you like to waste money you could also settle for a 6800K build, but it's easier to set fire to your money.

>>58263824
I do definitely have "long term" in mind, as far as anything in the technology field lasts in "long terms"...

>>58263815
It's really simple on the Intel side, just get the correct chipset (Z170 can overclock CPU and ram, H170 has enough PCIe lanes to SLI, B150 is budget but still does its job)
Look up reviews for brand vs brand wars, /g/ tends to like gigabytes ultra durable lineup, just don't get a $300 motherboard is the point, $150 should be more than enough for a quality motherboard
And yes, SLI is definitely not worth it.

>>58252043
Swap it out for a dual rad and throw it in an S340 Elite from NZXT, that case has enough space for a 240-280mm rad and it'll help you with your shit cable management because of the middle shroud or what ever its called that hides cables

>>58263828
My 1070 maxes out each and every game at 1440p and 60fps
Usually it maxes games at 1440p and 90fps

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>>58252471

If you decide that you're not going to overclock the CPU then you dont need a Z board, and if you really want to milk CPU performance then I dont see why you wouldnt go with a 6700K unless its budget problems.

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>find an old Razer Blackwidow in my closet
>remember it being junk
>took it out and a bunch of keys weren't working
>took it apart
>it's all cherry MX blue switches
>reball all the soder points
>still kinda junky
>decide to shove some iso alch down the switches with cotton swabs
>works perfect now
>perfect cherry MX keyboard that I can use to mod now that I'm not a stupid kid

>>58263834
Then I'd say stick with the Z170 motherboard for sure (easy overclocking performance), and get a 6700k if you're okay with the extra price (this generations socket is also compatible with Laby Lake gen CPUs, but Kaby lake CPUs haven't shown to be any better than Skylake yet)
I would get a 6700k personally just because I know I'm not gonna be upgrading my CPU for like 8 years so I might as well get the extra threads of the i7 now rather than later
But I can't see myself upgrading my 6600k for years either...

Having to replace my GA-Z77 mobo. Anything between 50-100$ that will still take ddr3 ram?

>if i upgrade to an Intel CPU i have to buy a Z series motherboard if i want freedom because they're a bunch of greedy jews
>AMD CPUs fucking suck for gaymen

>>58264552
Would you rather they follow AMD and release both good and bad motherboards under the same platform and you just hope you can safely overclock?

>>58264552
Actually, I could probably just change the microcode now that I think about it

>>58263920
Doesn't Razer use their knockoff switches?

>>58264854
They use Cherry MX and their knock-offs and i think they are compatible so keycaps are no problem.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtRbyf

How did I do? Anything else I should consider?

>>58266021
>reference card
At least it's XFX. Otherwise preddy gud.

So I've finally saved up enough money to buy myself a new PC, and was wondering if this would be a good first build. I want something solid enough to do 4k gaming at decent framerates, and will last me a good 6-7 years. Any feedback is appreciated as I try to tweak things a bit before pulling the trigger

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KksCCy

>>58266176
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDyTFd

>>58266176
CPU: Kaby Lake is supposed to release some time in Janurary. Might as well wait for a 7600k (should be more than enough for most games). If you still decide to buy now, a 6700k is a little bit overkill.
CPU Cooler: x61 is fine. You could throw in another ~$40 and get the x62 (nicer looking lights). Air cooling is cheaper and still a perfectly viable option.
Motherboard: That's probably a bit excessive. You could grab a MSI Z170A SLI Plus for $60 less that does just about everything the same. ASUS also makes a bunch of solid motherboards.
Case: It's all taste, but for a hundred dollars I'd personally be more apt to shoot for something that looks a little more neutral (S340 Elite, Define R5, 400C, etc.). I also haven't personally built in the Phantom 530, but cases with a gloss finish can be a bitch to keep clean.
PSU: G2 is a great PSU. G3 just came out (only a marginal improvement). You could probably get by with less wattage but more never hurts.

Just a few things I would personally do. I'm no voice of authority on the matter so take what I say with a grain of salt.

First-time builder here, /g/.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NRtBFd

Is my build any good? Am I missing something obvious and retarded?

>>58266743
Not including headphones/keyboard/mouse/wireless adapter.

>>58266743
what are you gonna use this build for?

About to bite the bullet on this one. Any last minute contentions (besides not buying windows)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6W8Ps

(look at that base price, it's 1337, can't go wrong right)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hKLBFd

Will this build be able to handle ultra max settings 1080p/144fps?
If not, what would I have to add to achieve that without adding too much money.
Also, is there a way to subsidize the cost while still keeping the quality?

>>58266867
I mostly just want a solid, stable rig that'll last me for a good while to work on. Also to play some games. I've got a bit of money to put into it, so I figured I might as well go for a decent build.

P.S.

Happy new year, /g/!

>>58266743
Looks okay, but you really don't need a Maximus board. "Mainstream" Z170 boards do the job fine. Go for a mid tower as well, you're going to hate how big full towers are (try making a rough cardboard replica with the same dimensions).

>>58266888
On some titles you might have to settle for less FPS or less graphical fidelity, but for the most part yes. the 1070 is a more than competent card for that.
of course you'll have to get a 144hz monitor to see the difference, but I'm sure you have that covered

>>58266900
If you're not a content creator or someone who needs hyperthreading / lots of CPU power, I wouldn't recommend an i7 - go for an i5. disregard this advice if you do need that.

How do I get consistent pink lighting in my case without software tools?

>>58266923
>>58266935
Makes sense. Pushed down a bit.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BzDNsJ


How's this?

Wut keyboard is gud? Using for games and general use, any price is fine.

>>58266997
>>>/g/mkg/

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>>58266948
Looks solid. Also consider using the Fractal Design Define R5. Right now, it can be had for cheaper than the 500R and it has some pretty dank features like a full-length bottom dust filter and velcro cable tie-downs.

>>58267029
Dang, that things looks sleek.

Thanks for the advice, /g/!

Hi. I really need help right now.

I'm currently running an AMD Phenom II x4 960T CPU on a Corsair TX850W PSU. I was wondering what good GPU for 1080p gaming is best compatible for these without so much bottlenecking?

I currently have $200 for the GPU.

Would a EVGA 500W 80+ bronze be enough for a i5-6500/rx470 build?

>>58267070
RX 470 4GB friendo.
You wanna cheap out, 460 then..

Friend is paying me to build her a budget editing build for adobe, music editing and such. This is what Ive come up with, told her I could do better than anything shed find at best buy for around $800.

Left some room to make money in the budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvJHpb

>>58267110
Yeah, that should be enough.

>>58267110
Easily

>>58255874
Good deal, but you should probably overclock if you're buying that. It will help extend the time before an upgrade for sure.

>>58258125
Is it actually the 4GB model? I likely have literally the same model of 680 as you do, and I don't think it would be worth upgrading to a card this generation for $200 or less unless buying used. Wait for Vega/Volta (even though Vega won't be that cheap) to release or be properly revealed before making a decision.

>>58267135
Won't it bottleneck since the Phenom II is like a 6 year old CPU? The Phenom II is overclocked right now at 3.78 Ghz, I haven't tried higher speeds but I will soon.

>>58267277
Go for 460 then if you're that worried.

>>58263583
Wouldnt it be more optimized if it had more multicore support? A poorly optimized game would put one core at 100% usage and the others wouldnt even be touched I would imagine, right?

>>58264854
They used to use Cherry, now its Kailh.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFzgZ8

Purpose:
Chinese cartoons
Touhou
Browse the net
Fooling around with R and Python

>>58267741
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6YyTFd

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ordered the parts on the PC i've been sweating over for the past month
thanks for all the help lads, probably posted here over ten times and changed every individual product at least once
happy new years

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>Build finally ready, fuck yes the waiting is over!
>Realize that there's now no need to hang around /g/ or any other tech related site, because this is about as good as it gets for the foreseeable future.
>There's nothing to upgrade hardware wise for years to come, no tech coming out for the next couple of years will be a dramatic upgrade from this.
>Suddenly feel a bit empty inside.
I have come to the end of my journey. There's nothing to look forward to tech wise now that the build is ready.
Is this what 2600k owners have been feeling like through all of these years?
Oh well, happy New Year! Hope you had a good one.

>>58267955
>windows 8

>>58267140
did you already buy the parts?

>>58263758
Is there a chance of anything bad happening after enabling XMP? 3000+ RAM is considerably more expensive than 2133, is it worth the premium for a Z170 / 6700k / 1070 build?

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>>58268093
Choice of champions.

>>58268223
No, nothing bad will happen.
It will just allow the RAM to function at the speed it's supposed to.
Is it worth it?
Well depends entirely on your budget. 3000Mhz RAM is still very affordable compared to the 3300+ stuff
If money is tight, then it's not that important to get the faster option.
But if you do have extra money or if the price is right, then get the faster RAM. It does have it's benefits here and there.
Sweet spot for price and performance seems to be around 3200Mhz..

>>58268305
What else should be looked at when choosing RAM? I remember reading something about latency being more important than frequency, is that true?

>>58268432

They're both meaningful, I'm not sure if there's a clear answer to that.
Personally I'd say that the frequency is more important, but that's just my opinion.
You do need a balance there.
Just get something that's within the range of CL14-16 and 3000-3200Mhz and you're good.

first pc build and I have no clue what I'm doing. this is what I've managed to cobble together with the advice of a friend who doesn't seem to know what he's doing very well either. I'm looking to hopefully play most games at 60fps on high-ish settings, as well as run FL studio and Clip studio paint well. hoping to cut down costs a bit too, as I imagine I went a bit overkill on a few things and have some other things I want to buy.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BL4kqk

Anybody have a good case for a female who is still being eased into pc-as-a-hobby?

It needs to be ATX, have atleast 2 internal and external bays, and be pretty. Preferable colors are pink/purple/pastels.

>>58268305
What the hell is up with that graph. What stupid fuckery do you have to write to have your game's framerate be so memory refresh time dependent? How can memory refresh rate even matter compared to bus throughput; did we solve bus skew or something?

>>58268432
That's wrong, frequency is definitely more important than latency, but both tend to go up together

>>58268907
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BL4kqk
- you don't need the 212 fan unless you want slightly quieter operation
- you don't actually need 650W psu. the 1060 uses 120w (much less under most circumstances) the CPU uses 65w, and the rest of the components don't use much, maybe another 150w at most.. A 500 or even a good 450 will be fine.
- don't really need the z170 mb you could get a cheaper one, h110 but you'll decrease upgrade options to some extent. if it was me I'd get a cheaper mb but I'm cheap

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>>58268305
>going from stock to 4000mhz ram makes a bigger difference than going from a $400 GPU to a $600 GPU
The state of PC gaming

>>58269234
oh and about the CPU fan, if you didn't know it the CPU comes with a fan already. And this fan is generally fine unless you have a reason to want a different one.

>>58269234
alright, I'm dropping the fan and looking into cheaper PSUs. I was told by my friend that the one I have on the list is overkill power-wise but still worth it for the gold certification and modular cables. just how important are those, particularly the gold certification?
also, how much would dropping down to the h110 decrease my upgrade options? the reason I stayed with the one I have is because it seems to have a lot of room to add onto, as well as supporting M.2 in case I wanted to get a faster SSD. if it doesn't really mater much I'm fine with downgrading there too.

I'm planning on building a H110M pc with some variant of RX480 4G, I do not plan to OC or have two GPUs. At first I was planning to cramp it all in Deepcool Tesseract but now I'm thinking if I really need all that extra space with mATX and that I can get a slightly cheaper Deepcool Smarter. My main concern is cooling and airflow, I always wondered if you need additional fans with smaller cases, how much hotter can it get inside if I decide to go through with it?

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What do I need to look for in a motherboard?
How do I know it's compatible with my older parts?

>>58269484
Get a decent entry level cooler and 2-3 case fans and you're good. If you don't the Intel stock cooler by Boeing™ you can use that thing.

>>58260965
been using either that, or previous model from the line for a long time now

feels ok, but tiny bit more flimsy than a macbook keyboard

battery lasts forever tho, I don't remember the last time I changed it

>>58260986
yes

>>58269120
Literally go pcpartpicker>choose case>use the side options

>>58270242
What do you need from your computer?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FjrCCy

How is this?
Is there a way to make it less expensive without compromising quality?

>>58271156
>no SSD
>no 3000 RAM
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NsDy8K
This is as cheap as it gets with a SSD and without compromising the core parts.

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This is absolutely banana, the 470 is still over $200 after taxes. It's been like 5 months since launch, I though this fucking card was aimed at $150 range.

How fucking longer before it actually priced at its intended range??

>>58271428
is there a more minimal looking case and also a mouse that doesn't have obnoxious LEDs (ie none at all)?

I got a 6600k from MicroCenter yesterday for $180. Should I just use it, or would it be worth selling, waiting a few weeks, and buying a 7600k when Kaby Lake releases.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QXxm2R4

Anything wrong with this setup? I feel like PSU is a little to much but I plan for it to last.

>>58271713
Yes and yes. Go on PCP and see if you find something you like, you could also switch to mATX if you like.
See if you find something from Thermaltake, Roswill or Fractal Design, they have some "minimal" cases.
Concerning the mouse, you can switch LEDs off via software if i'm correct, not optimal but imho i wouldn't bother with it.

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>>58271798
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QXxm2R

Messed up my link

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Maybe someone here can help me

A10 7850K APU
RX 470 4GB
8GB of decent RAM
HDD

This is my current setup, but I feel like I'm not getting the performance I should be. The 7850k is apparently a decent CPU on its own, but it kind of feels like it is bottlenecking my RX 470. I was looking for 60fps when I assembled this, but I'm jumping into the 20's sometimes. It seems to struggle when there is lots going on. What am I fucking up other than falling for the AMD meme?

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>>58272197
I'm gonna elaborate on a couple of things:

A10 7850K at 3.7GHz
Windows 10
I don't know anything about the hard drive except its 7200rpm

I'm hoping all I have to do is buy a better CPU in order to achieve 60fps at 1080p. Please guide me /g/

>will never get that 750GB SSD for $110 deal again.

SSD prices will drop around the time Ryzen/Vega comes out.... r-right guys?

>>58272547
You will be lucky to get $11.10 for that 750 GB SSD in 5 years

>>58251141

Is this site actually useful at building a powered pc and not spending a fortune on it?

http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html


I should add, though, that I'm not really a gamer, so I'm not sure if there's any use for me even having anything other than a laptop, apart from better price per power.

I watch HD videos and I do some software engineering with small teams, but I'm not a technology fetishist.


Nonetheless --
If anyone can give me a build that will lead to an exquisite experience programming software (seriously, have you experienced how shitty it is to use an Android emulator in Android Studio? If anyone has a build that makes that not fucking terrible, I will give them a digital tugjob) and watching HD video, without spending a fortune, please post.

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Hi /g/

So i need some help here, i decided to switch from console to PC. Since i have almost no idea about hardware i checked the falcon list and choose the most similar pieces from a local website (i'm from Germany)

The thin is now that there are (slight ?) differences and i have no idea if that build would work.

>BitFenix Shinobi USB 3.0 Midi Tower

>8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT red DDR4-2400 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit

>Intel Core i3 6300 2x 3.80GHz So.1151 BOX

>500 Watt EVGA 500B Non-Modular 80+ Bronze

>MSI H110M GAMING Intel H110 So.1151 Dual Channel DDR4 mATX Retail

>1000GB WD Blue WD10EZEX 64MB 3.5" (8.9cm) SATA 6Gb/s

>2GB MSI GeForce GTX 1050 2GT OC Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16

Would this build work properly ? my main concern is the power supply/connections/sockets from the parts.

Also open for critique if there are "better" parts i could pick.

My goal is a gaming PC for 530€ with +-10% wiggle space.

TL;DR Poor as Anon needs some help with picking PC pieces since he was a incompetent/poor console gamer.

>>58272592
>budget target/max
?
>location if not US
So guess US?
>usage
Programming, emulation? Depending on what work you do an i3 can be ok or you'll need an i7.
Personally i plan on getting a new PC for work (programming/webdev, movies and shitposting that has to last 4-6 years and i'll get a 6500, 6600K, 6700K or Zen.

>>58272592
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/64C9nn

By the way, I rely on externals to the point where I no longer consider a hard drive to be useful for anything but storing applications.

I'm not sure if it's essential to development, but I've absolutely never had hard drive size present a problem for me, so that's probably a few dollars I could save.

>>58272644
Buy the 6100 or go up to the i5 6400

>>58272648
Thanks.

US. Chicago.
I don't know if I have a budget. I guess my budget is more in the "is it worth it?" consideration, in that I'm pretty sure there are perfectly cheap reliable parts.

Have you ever used Android Studio and run an emulator for a mobile device in acceptance testing of an app you've just made? It is complete shit, and I'd like this and similar tasks to not make me temporarily hate the world.

>>58272644
First, always use PCP, you can edit prices or add custom parts if needed.
Now, your idea is a decent start, but take a look at this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fZZCCy
Complete entry level gaymen build for just under 530 bucks. Might want to add a <20 bucks custom cooler, Intel can get crazy loud.

>>58272728
Which Piece ?
Why ?

looking for a 1tb hard drive for my old pc, will install windows on it
seagate or WD?

>>58272831
Well thanks, that super helpful from you.

I will take a look, a working entry build would be awesome.

4K monitor or Ultrawide?
I'm running a single GTX 980 right now.
Going to upgrade, right now I've got a 1080p Samsung monitor and I feel like I need something new.

Can't decide, any recommendations?

>>58272728
Instead of the i3 6300 CPU you should go for the 6100 due to its lower price, and the performance benefit you'd see would be too small to notice in games. I said go for the i5 6400 because the price isn't all too different between the 6300 and it in some places.

>>58272842
Honestly, I haven't found either brand to be more reliable.

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>>58272880
1920x1920 for serious work

>>58272831
Okay the problem is that some of those parts aren't available in Germany and I'm not sure about the shipping costs.

>>58272755
No idea about Android Studio, never used it, i usually stick with Eclipse/JetBrains for development.
You can do some light work even on laptops, so a 6500 should be fine for most situations, but an i7 will last longer and is significantly more powerful.
>is it worth it?
Same question i'm asking myself. Do i really need the 6700K or will a 6500 or 6600K be enough? Guess that's something we all have to decide on our own.

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>>58272547

SSD and RAM prices are actually going to go up for the next months.
They've been going up for some months already.

Before the thread dies can one of you fine fellows give some advice on a good 144hz 1080p monitor that's under $500? For vidya gaymen.

Been looking over the selection on Newegg and I'm not sure which one to go for.

>>58272877
>working entry
Like what kind of work? For more CPU intensive tasks you should get a 6400 or 6500.

>>58273039
German here, too. Prices here are completely fucked up.. so just that you know.
Here's a list for germany, prices in black and PSU are from Mindfactory: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/y6BtkT

>>58273229
Okay that seems solid too,
otherwise, how is this attempt ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fZZCCy

>>58273263
Arg god i'm stupid. sorry i meant this one:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jZ2G2R

>>58273229
Working as in, a PC that functions

>>58273263
>>58273284
It's worse. ITX is more expensive than ATX or mATX, 120GB SSDs have bad value and why swap it out?
RX460 vs 1050ti idk.. if i'm not mistaken the RX460 is far worse than the 1050t.
Your PSU is good but unnecessary expensive. Overall it's a worse build for basically the same money.

>>58272838
>>58272889
Sorry, replied to wrong person

>>58273429
>>58273382
Okay thanks guys, i think i'll go with https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/y6BtkT

I wish you guys a nice day and a happy new year.

is this dare i say it, a shitty build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JP8qNN

>>58273593
No problem m8, maybe add a 120mm fan, case only comes with 1 at the rear, Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 120mm should be like 8€ on Mindfactory.

>>58273697
NOT ENOUGH LEDS.

Best way of installing Windows 10 onto a fresh SSD?
I want a new install, I don't want to simply migrate since the HDD I'm on is Windows 7.

>>58274212
Download it from Microsoft into USB
Unlike *other* *outdated* OSes that shall not be named, you can install from USB directly to a skylake machine

>>58274588
Mine is Bloomfield

>>58274212
>win 10.
why

And you could simply reinstall the win 7 os along with whatever else you have.

>>58274646
The email account that I kept my product key in has been deleted because I left the university, so I need to get Windows 10.
It's a mess.