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Are you prepared for the ruskies hacking you, /g/?

https://www.us-cert.gov/security-publications/GRIZZLY-STEPPE-Russian-Malicious-Cyber-Activity
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>>58243596
I have nothing to hide. In fact, I invite senpai Putin to come into my system and mess around and do some information insertion and retrieval. Over and overagain, until he discovers the motherload and blows it all over.
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>>58243596
It amazes me how stupid most people are and will eat this up. Looks like a fucking 4th grade flow chart
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I wish the NSA would spend their time making software more rather than less secure.
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>>58243645
>the explanation is too simple, it must be a lie
>it's alien space kikes, not russians, that did this
>also 9/11
>also jet fuel
Apply the principle of Occam's razor, faglord.
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why can't the russians just leave us alone

what the FUCK is there problem?
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>>58243688
Friendly reminder that Russians are basically white niggers
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Golly gee, I can't wait. I was planning to install gentoo, but if the Russians are willing to do it FOR Me..
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>>58243688
Why would a major country purposefully gimp themselves by not hacking other country's electronic infrastructure?
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Sure, just like I'm prepared for Brussels, USA and Israel hacking me. They are certainly trying all the time.
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>be americans
>invent computers
>get outcomputered by some russians in hoodies and ushanka hats
lmao
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>>58243596
>installs gentoo
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If you're honestly worried about Russian hackers you are a fucking retard
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If it's the case that Russia leaked emails (which is what they mean with "hacked the election", even though Hillary got a bump in the polls right after Comey threw away the investigation a second time), then I thank them.

It exposed the DNC then chair Debbie bullying MSNBC because of a critical article or something, threatening to contact the editor. Donna Brazile leaking questions to the Clinton campaign. Goldman Sachs speeches where Clinton says she has a private and public opinion. Screwing over Bernie and gloating over closed primary elections. etc, etc, etc...

It was a public good that they were leaked. It's a shame the MSM didn't cover the leaks enough (not to mention good enough), not to mention a shame that it actually didn't have that much of an impact.

Hillary's campaign had en effect though. 9% of Democrats voted for Trump (she still won the popular vote by 2.8 million though, which is pretty crazy). Well done Hillary. Totally everyone else's fault though. Sure.

I don't like to say that I'd prefer either of the shitty candidates we were served by the 9% of the US population who chose them, but all things considered I would have preferred Hillary to have won. On the other hand, at least these 4 years will be extremely entertaining.

Fuck the electoral college btw. I've always said it too, so it's not just this election. It's past its expiration date. Get rid of it. A president of the people should be elected by the people by one person, one vote. Should be simple. States would still have their own representation and power regardless, but the post of the president should be for someone elected by the people, not the states.

/rant
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>>58243804
>what is a constitutional republic

We're not a democracy so the electoral college is highly relevant and functional
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>>58243672
Not him, but everytime I see "Occam's razor" on imageboards, I know there's a underage behind the post.
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>>58243826
A constitutional republic is a type of democracy last I checked, although I'm not sure why someone would seemingly argue against democracy.

Enjoy your oligarchy though. Doesn't concern me much. I'll eat popcorn while watching your empire fall.
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>>58243840
Well, I'm not underage (I'm 30) and my reply is very much valid, seeing how his argument is literally "it's too simple ergo it must be false"
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>>58243861
Stop shilling and go to
>>>primary school
>>>reddit
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>>58243924
>pointing out a logical fallacy = shilling
okay
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>>58243672
>faglord
kill your fucking self
go back to school
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>>58244004
Triggered by a being called a fag, lol
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>>58243844
they've been playing by the same rules for hundreds of years now. If the Democrats had actually visited places like Wisconsin they may have actually won some key states. Turns out name calling and Jay-Z concerts aren't enough
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>>58244116
>according to the polls
lel
/r/ that image with the chances of winning the states going from zero to solid 100%
maybe if the DNCfaggots didn't rig the polls so much people would have actually voted for queen cunt.
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>>58244167
not the image you want, but there is no doubt that shitty polling and fake news made the Dems lazy
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>>58243844
Most of America's population is in California, so if it were popular vote only, presidents would only care about californian issues.
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>>58244451
This. You could theoretically win 48/50 states and still lose the popular vote. If you don't campaign effectively across the entire country, you deserve to lose.
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>disable ping replies and upnp on your router
>???
why are you kids so fuckign stupid, who the fuck would target you
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>>58243596
>https://www.us-cert.gov/security-publications/GRIZZLY-STEPPE-Russian-Malicious-Cyber-Activity

why did they install gentoo? why not mangina?
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>>58243688
why can't the americans just leave usa lone

what the FUCK is there problem?
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>>58244543
>no ICMP response
>port 22 still gets hammered by chinese skript kiddies
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>>58244563
automated shitters would leave your range alone eventually
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>>58244451
And?

Why wouldn't you be biased towards more populous areas? How's that not more fair than candidates having to give attention to states where 3 people live in bumfuck nowhere? How is it fair for a minority to overrule the majority when voting for a representative of their country?

How does the election of a president representing all the people disfavor states anyway?

Doesn't make much sense. Seems the positives of the electoral college is far outweighed by the negatives.
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>>58244618
Nah, they just brute force the entire IPv4 space
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>>58244626
because it would just fuck over every single state that's not as populated and turn it into mob rule, which is exactly what the founders where trying to avoid with this entire concept.

you're only bitching because Trump won, but he was campaigning on the agreed upon rules beforehand. pissing and moaning about popular vote is pointless, because had both candidates been running to win the popular vote, they would have campaigned completely differently. you would also get a significant number of new participants who wouldn't even bother otherwise (Republicans in California for instance).

supposedly the Clinton campaign was so worried about losing the popular vote, the diverted resources from battleground states like Michigan to deep blue cities like Chicago just to up the turnout in those already won areas. whoops
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>>58244653
fair enough, chong isps don't care about complaints :(
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>>58244626
How is it fair for New York and California to basically dictate every election. For the rest of forever?

You're retarded.
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>>58244707
>because it would just fuck over every single state
Doesn't happen in most of the Western world though.

Mob rule? You are voting for a representative executive party to govern an office with lots of checks and balances. That's not mob rule. It's not even remotely close to a direct democracy. Get real.

I've bitched about it long before this election btw, so shove that presumptuous non sequitur so far up your ass you puke blod, bitch.

>>58244743
It's fairer than the idiotic alternative which I just explained. Besides, that's actually false.
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>>58243596
I use Gahnoo Slash Leenucks. Pretty sure it is safe from botnets.
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>>58244742
ipset4 create china hash:net
ipset4 addfile china ipsets/ipdeny_country/id_country_cn.netset
blacklist4 input inface $WORLD ipset:china
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>>58244768
>It's actually false

What's false?

Just kill yourself retard. The electoral college makes sense when you actually consider the big picture.
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>>58244768
not many other countries in the Western world have 320 million people of diverse backgrounds and culture. the popular vote is never gonna happen, so keep on crying tho

part of the reason the USA is so successful is because of the competition that arises between the states (taxes). if you have the feds swoop in and decide everything by a purely popular vote, that is one step away from the so called dictatorships that you faggots try to paint on Trump's all the time. go back to high school and take a civics class, and stop being a fucking retard.
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>>58243688
Doesn't Europe feel the same way about you Americans? Stop tapping the phones of our govt leaders you spying fucks. Russia, the US and China are the three only countries with 0 ethics when it comes to cyber-activity.
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>>58244845
>so keep on crying tho
Why are you crying tho? I'm just stating my opinion that the popular vote is more democratic and less flawed than the electoral college. No need to get all butthurt about it.
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>>58244845
Hillary Clinton promptly accepted the election results and has not challenged them at all, nor has the Clinton Campaign.
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>>58245086
t. sore loser
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>>58244830
>inb4 5d chess
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>>58245123
Hillary lost on purpose so her wall street connections could have a good time with Republicans in charge of making tax laws and she could retire with a hefty bonus and not having to dismantle the Clinton organisation.

Come on, wake up sheeple.
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>>58245123
Nice projection.
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>>58245151
>if drumpf says it must be true

The electoral college makes sense regardless of whether Drumpf agrees or Disagrees with it.
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>>58245174
no, I'm a sore winner. big difference
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>>58243596
>falling for the Russian boogeyman propaganda shat out by assblasted libtards over losing an election
wew lad
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>>58245188
>makes sense
Only if the number of electors per state were periodically redistributed.
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>>58245188
>election is decided by the dakotas and ohio
>makes sense
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>>58245227
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>>58245202
Yeah russians aren't stealing money with malware or anything... it's all one big meme!
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>>58245257
>I can't believe those gullible Trump supporters are falling for all the hatred and scaremongering
>MUH RUSSIANS
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>>58243596

They seem to fail to mention that victim space does not necessarily correspond with government assets.

Podesta had his gmail account, Clinton had her home server. It's shadow IT, where the victims are directly circumventing their own built in protections.

I'm getting more pissed off the more this escalates.
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>>58245244
What is your point? I'm glad Trump won, honestly. I just don't think that the electoral college with the winner takes it all system is working very well.

I'm definitively not saying that popular vote is the only thing that matters, that's tyranny of the majority.
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>>58245275
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>>58245257
>implying there aren't black hats from all over the world doing that shit 24/7
go read a book kid and turn off the msm while you're at it, it's brainwashing you.
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>>58243596
God damn, they put out 13 pages of absolute bullshit that provides no proof it was even Russians that had anything to do with it.

I mean wow, it floors me how blatant this is as a false flag operation but people just eat up what CNN says.
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>>58245282
>I just don't think that the electoral college with the winner takes it all system is working very well

based on what, exactly? so far, so good. it's a self-regulating system. if Trump is as big of a disaster as plebbit says he will be, then someone else will take over in 4 years.
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>>58245293

Well fuck, you showed me. I guess Nigerian Princes have been hacking bank accounts all these years.
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>>58245272
Huh? What is that strawman?

>>58245299
Yeah all the arrested/identified Russian criminals are a Democrat meme

Yeah all the Russian credit card, malware and bank fraud Forums are just a meme

Lol come on dude
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>>58245332
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>>58245308
It's an easy out for them to write up some paper and then have the media regurgitate it out to the public as fact when there are plenty of holes in it.

If people thought for themselves this shit wouldn't happen, but most of the population is mentally retarded and just believe what they see on TV rather than doing their own research.

>>58245332
>Yeah all the arrested/identified Russian criminals are a Democrat meme
>Yeah all the Russian credit card, malware and bank fraud Forums are just a meme

They are a meme in the grand scheme of actual cyber crime. Grow the fuck up dude there's a bigger world than the tiny narrative you seem to center your thoughts around.
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>>58245311
>based on what, exactly?
It inevitably devolves into a two-party system, where you end up with two extremely broad factions that are trying to please everyone. Look at Reps, you have fanatical bible thumpers and gung-hos that don't really give a shit about taxes or corporate legislation, they just want to keep brownskins out and keep their guns.

And then you have neo-conns and libertarians, that fall into the same category for what reason?
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>>58243628
What's your full name?
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>>58245344
>when you make strawman arguments based on things the other person neither said, nor believes

>>58245361
Where do literally ALL the big botnets originate from?

Who runs massive carding forums?

In what primary language are the biggest Malware forums?
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>>58245368
>It inevitably devolves into a two-party system

that has nothing to do with the electoral college you idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
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>>58245380
Carl Salvesen
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>>58245190
Mommy look at all those racists!
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>>58245395
>that has nothing to do with the electoral college you idiot
Read the entire sentence you quoted, you illiterate mong.
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With the US trying to subvert elections all across the world for many decades, to the rest of the world you very much look like whiny children throwing a temper tantrum when it happens to you.
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>>58245118
>has not challenged them at all, nor has the Clinton Campaign
Because if they did it would just expose all the fucking voter fraud? Do you hilldawgs remember what happened in Detroit after Stein's recount was finished?
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>>58245427
nothing would change about the two party system by switching to a popular vote. if anything, it would become every further divided
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>>58245361
>If people thought for themselves this shit wouldn't happen, but most of the population is mentally retarded and just believe what they see on TV rather than doing their own research.
Funnest thing about all this is they are calling it "hacking" when the fucking emails were leaked because someone fell for a straight up phishing email. These evil Russian spy hackers are using the same level of shit some 14 year old on facebook uses.
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>>58245464
>nothing would change about the two party system by switching to a popular vote. if anything, it would become every further divided
Are you legitimately retarded or what?

I literally fucking wrote
>I'm definitively not saying that popular vote is the only thing that matters

So read again, I'm not arguing that you should simply replace the electoral college with winning by popular votes. Most countries in the world assign some sort of weights to votes, to make them more fair and balanced.

I'm arguing that a winner-takes-it-all-system is bad and prevents coalitions and representatives that can represent different nuances in political ideologies.

Now will you please read my posts entirely, instead of ignoring what I write and just post meme pictures?
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>>58245521
>electoral college is bad
>provides no viable alternatives
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>>58245539
Parliamentarism
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>>58245539
>Now will you please read my posts entirely, instead of ignoring what I write and just post meme pictures?
Not him, but I can see that's a no.
Can you get back to laughing at FBI again? It's the only remotely technology-related topic in this thread.
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>>58245459
>Because if they did it would just expose all the fucking voter fraud?
So there was voter fraud?
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>>58245539
Its the best they can use right now. If it didnt exsist the smaller population states would have no voice at all and the entire direction of the country would be decided by states with the largest cities. Imagine a country shaped by the jews in new york and the faggots and california...
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>>58243596
>>58243688
>US hacks german PMs, UN officials, brazilian govt, etc(5 eyes, comms everywhere)
>>oh noes, we didn't do nufffin

>russians supposedly hax some corrupt political party and reveal its secrets
>OMG OMG THEY HAXED US!!11!
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>there are people in this thread who actually believes the popular vote is equivalent to the tyranny of the majority
This just in, all representative democracies are tyrannies.
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>>58243672
>>it's alien space kikes, not russians, that did this
it's some random infosec guy that did this.. in fact, wikileaks says the info came from an insider.
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>>58245588
Detroit's recount showed that there were more Hillary votes than people registered to vote in those precincts. Just votes appearing out of fat air, no biggie.
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>>58245589

1) Winner take all mechanism is still at play with electoral college. Just like you claim that small states don't have a say, it's and argument that can be extended to state level, that is to say people in Dallas and San Antonio don't have a say in Texas election.

2) This is an arbitrary grouping. Christians have too much say in our election. Whites have too much say in our election. Baby boomers have to much say in our election. People East of the Mississippi have to much say in our election.

3) This is a Post Hoc justification that was not used in the inception of the EC, despite same relations existing then. Probably because it is a stupid and unethical justification.
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>>58245780
>2)

kys commie scum
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>>58245654
>Detroit's recount showed that there were more Hillary votes than people registered to vote in those precincts.
This is called a lie. In some precinct more votes where counted by machine than ballot total counted my human. This was not just Hillary votes, but votes total. The opposite happened in various precincts. The largest margin was 12 vote discrepancy.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/18/detroit-ballots-vote-recount-election-stein/95570866/
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>>58243672
are you fucking retarded? Believing that this is the work of the russians is a paranoid conspiracy theory. Occams razor says it was some disgruntled party fuck from the democrats who leaked this

Holy fuck you are dumb
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>>58245859
My stance is that when you want to argue against a certain ideology, you argue against it's strongest most thought out arguments and ignore the stupid bottom of the barrel rhetoric spammer. It is difficult to do this with the Trump fandom, you are all just kind of stupid and reduce every argument to meme spewing.
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>>58245900
>freep
Might as well link to snopes, faggot.
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Why would the Russians do this?

Aren't they friends with Donald Trump? Why attack the foundation of our democratic government?
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>>58245947
>Believing that this is the work of the russians is a paranoid conspiracy theory.
Yes, both the CIA and the FBI are touting a paranoid conspiracy theory and I should listen to random strangers on the internet and the technological incompetent grandpa they call their God Emperor instead.
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>>58245947
>is a paranoid conspiracy theory
The irony burns soo much.
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>>58245957
So you admit you can't dispute the actual content of the specific article and therefore concede the argument?
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>>58245954
whites and Christians are the majority of the country, and breaking up the electoral college will do nothing to change this you intolerant faggot
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Must be pretty embarrasing to get hacked by Russia, knowing how much the USA are spending on their military alone.
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>>58245974
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>>58245996
>whites and Christians are the majority of the country,
Not for long, when they finally remove the electoral college, the democrats will import mexicans and other immigrants to have them vote in their favour.
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>>58246022
>Democrats passing any legislation the near future

I've got bad news for you
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>>58246013
Haha, I fucking lost.
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>>58245947
Provide examples of why it is someone from the same party.

Make sure to include the reasoning and possible technical expertise to accomplish the phishing campaign, persistence, and making sure to include reasoning and examples of how they purposefully manipulated the code and behavior to mimic the known russian actors.
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>>58245957
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/

http://www.inquisitr.com/3793710/hundreds-of-detroit-precincts-were-ineligible-for-recount-almost-two-thirds-of-those-had-too-many-votes/

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2198059-report-too-many-votes-found-in-37-percent-of-detroits-votes/
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>>58246059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qlc3lStM4
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>>58245996
>whites and Christians are the majority of the country
Yes and so are urban dwellers and liberals. The point is that you are making a vote weighting argument based on arbitrary grouping that can be applied to any other arbitrary grouping where there is a minority/majority dichotomy.
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>>58243741
>mfw Americans
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>>58246123
>vote weighting argument based on arbitrary grouping
Which is why the president should be elected through one person, one vote.
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>>58245974
appeal to authortiy

face it, you're a low-iq nigger with no reasoning skills

kill yourself
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>>58246165
then what will you cry about when Trump wins that way also?
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>>58245589
so what you are saying is that you support the electoral college because it conveniently furthers your political beliefs right?
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https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/
More details released, this makes the case even less convincing.
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>inb4 that hillary shill ruins another thread
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>>58246186
Why would I cry?
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>>58246213
>yfw Republicans have no path to 270
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>>58246083
Not a 30 minute youtube video, I want real examples.

You could at least point out certain times to view because I'm not going to accept the defacto /pol/ standard of unsubstantiated videos without you showing you've done research.
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>>58243804
Thanks trump internet defence force
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>>58246183
No, it's not an appeal to authority, you idiot. It is a matter of Occam's razor:

Your theory, which you claim to be simplest, is that there was no hacking, only a disgruntled Democrat.
This theory does not explain why CIA and FBI are saying that Russians did it, aka it has more assumptions.


My theory is that the CIA and FBI are telling the truth and that they have the evidence they say. This theory does not rely on the assumption that they are lying, ergo it better suits Occam's razor.
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>>58246237
this thread is about Russian hacking. how about some proofs for that first
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>>58246254
There have already been writeups and analysis of it.

You are the one who needs to show research showing otherwise, considering your only argument to the table is a straight up 'WAKE UP SHEEPLE!' faggotry
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>>58246253
>My theory is that the CIA and FBI are telling the truth and that they have the evidence they say.
Irrational assumption.

>This theory does not rely on the assumption that they are lying
It relies on the assumption that they are telling the truth and that Putin is lying. Your position has the exact same amount of assumptions as my position. You don't even know how to apply occamz razor. You're retarded.
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>>58246250
Explain thoroughly. I defended neither candidate as far as I can see, with the exception of my tepid support for Hillary:
>but all things considered I would have preferred Hillary to have won

How do you resolve this contradiction in your mind? How do you cope with your cognitive dissonance?
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>>58243741
>>58245344
>>58246008
>>58246013
kek máximo, mis lados están en órbita
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>>58246277
t. one fucking nigger from the Washington Post
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This is just priceless. The idiots and children complain russia rigged the election but dems have consistently lost all over on every level of government down to municipal during this year.

I mean fuck, if the presidential election didnt go to republicans this cycle it would be a bigger red flag for a rigged election.
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>>58246284
>It relies on the assumption that they are telling the truth and that Putin is lying
Anon.....

There is evidence of this. It's even been posted in this thread.


Why the fuck am I even trying?
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>>58246254
There's a bunch of failed logins at whitehouse.gov which is the website that the entire election was running through.
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>>58246290
https://www.threatconnect.com/guccifer-2-0-dnc-hack-fancy-bears/

I don't have to post youtube videos, I can actually post writeups with actual information you don't have to sit through 30 minutes of bullshit to get to.

The shit I posted alone is enough to debunk that it was a disgruntled DNC member.
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>>58246293
>lost all over on every level of government down to municipal during this year.
Doesn't mean squat. Voter turnout for municipal elections are less than 30%.
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>>58246237
>unsubstantiated videos
All you have is unsustantiated claims from a bunch of alphabetsoup agencies whose job it is to lie, and are commonly known for lying over and over again even to their own people. You fucking paranoid conspiratard. Watch out for the russkie under your bed son! :^)
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>>58246328
>>58246284
I found the Rusky astroturf.

Hello Igorr, how's the troll factories going? :^)
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>>58246253
> It is a matter of Occam's razor
Yeah, and it should go like this:

Before Trump's election:
> Wikileaks says it has been an insider
> DNC and media says Trump is delusional when he says elections might be rigged

After Trump's election
> "IT WAS THE RUSSIANS ALL ALONG TRYIN' TO ELECT TRUMP AND WE KNEW IT FROM THE BEGINNING BUT WE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE BECAUSE OF REASONS" says the nervously shaking establishment
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>>58246303
There is some very weak circumstantial evidence. Nothing major, and certainly no proof. There is plenty of weak evidence showing how these federal agencies have been supporting Clinton. It doesn't mean shit, just like your weak-ass evidence doesn't mean shit. Stop pretending that you are rational when all you have is regurgitated talking points from a bunch of fake new articles.
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>>58246343
Found the CIA nigger
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>>58246309
>implying
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>>58246350
Its a sad day when people learning the truth and seeing facts leads to outrage that it "rigged" an election.
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>>58246328
Post some analysis of the event that shows otherwise then.
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http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/9/georgia-election-officials-accuses-dhs-hacking-sta/
The plot thickens....
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>>58246353
>There is plenty of weak evidence showing how these federal agencies have been supporting Clinton

Yes, because James Comey just looooooves Clinton, right?
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>>58246353
Hey guise everyone is a lying jew except pol okay?????????????
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>>58246396
if you bothered to do your research, you would realize this has to do with government machines preventing people from copy/pasting shit they shouldnt, so when someone copied shit from one of their websites it tripped an alert.

its called a false positive
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>>58245947
na that doesn't really work out because IT LOOKS LIKE RUSSIANS DID THIS so is it really simpler that this whole thing is the democratic iT department framing Russia? or is it more likely that this actually was foreign involvement which is by no means unprecedented as has been brought up virtually every election ever has had some type of foreign interest and it just so happens that Donald Trump was so irresponsible with the lies coming out of his mouth that he antagonized some people in the media industry and now the whole thing is kind of getting taken out of context (although a proportional response seems appropriate i mean shit wouldn't you say that america would be pretty cucked for just taking it up the butt on this one?)
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>muh russian hackers
and yet they never replied (and will never do, obviously) to the corruption exposed in the emails
kek, 'murrican "politics", what a big circus, as if clinton was too different from bush, obama, trump, ...
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>>58246451
>murican politics

As opposed to which country's?

Which country is better?
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>>58246450
you lost faggot
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>>58244167
/pol/ here, lurking otherwise
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>>58246403
Comey was literally the Democrats golden boy. There are tons of instances where he was praised publicly by the Democrats prior to the elections. Do some fact checking, many Republicans actually suspected him of being a shill because of it.
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>>58246403
>>58246426
Kek what happened to occams razor you irrational niggers?

>>58246391
Maybe that fucker who got shot in DC was the leaker. Or it could be literally anyone else, nobody knows. Anyways Hilldawg and the establishment scrambled to blame outside influence as a red herring to deflect from the damning allegations of the emails. This false narrative has been building for over 6 months. If the hacking was done by a forgeign government the content of the hacked emails suddenly don't matter, that's how they are trying to play it.
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>>58246470
go look at european politics (the place where historic and current political trends were born)
it's a mess, yes, but at least there are real alternatives... unlike your retarded country, where you vote for the ones defending different groups of rich people and oligarchs, where candidates have to show themselves as "moderate" right wingers, and 3rd parties are practically excluded or simply non-existent
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>>58246449
Proof?
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>>58244196
>Indicators of Compromise (IOCs)
>IOCs associated with RIS cyber actors are provided within the accompanying .csv and .stix files of JAR-16-20296.
>Yara Signature
>rule PAS_TOOL_PHP_WEB_KIT
>{
>meta:
>description = "PAS TOOL PHP WEB KIT FOUND"
>strings:
>$php = "<?php"
>$base64decode = /\='base'\.\(\d+\*\d+\)\.'_de'\.'code'/
>$strreplace = "(str_replace("
>$md5 = ".substr(md5(strrev("
>$gzinflate = "gzinflate"
>$cookie = "_COOKIE"
>$isset = "isset"
>condition:
>(filesize > 20KB and filesize < 22KB) and
>#cookie == 2 and
>#isset == 3 and
>all of them
>}

What did t(he)y mean by this?
Surely if they were interested in releasing technical details they could have found more things to safely declassify.
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> IT WAS THE RUSSIANS

No, we can't say it was them, see
>>58246220
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>>58246494
you are just trying to change the subject into some garbage /pol/ tier hillary shit

until you actually provide analysis that shows otherwise, you have nothing to say. this entire thread was about the hack not your amazing investigative skills (which have yet to provide ANY sort of counter argument)

go ahead and post something that makes sense, or fuck off back to where you came from
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>>58246494
>Maybe that fucker who got shot in DC was the leaker.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/julian-assange-suggests-dnc-staffer-was-shot-dead-for-being-a-source/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/wikileaks-offers-reward-in-killing-of-dnc-staffer-in-washington/2016/08/09/f84fcbf4-5e5b-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html

>>58246532
>you are just trying to change the subject into some garbage /pol/ tier hillary shit
not him, but WikiLeaks offered a $20k bounty on info regarding his assassination...
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>>58246515
Its not my job to educate you.
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>>58246557
>regarding his assassination
Who?
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>>58246532
Are you fucking illiterate? Haha holy fuck I can't tell if you are literally retarded, or a shill. Probably retarded, you sound like a liberal nu-male.
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>>58246502
Oh yeah Europeans ...

Literal socialists and people who want muslims to replace the native population. Great rolemodels for America.
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All of you who still believe that Russia "le haxored" the election should consider leaving life
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>>58246515
jesus christ first thing on google. you are a fucking tool

https://www.cyberscoop.com/dhs-georgia-incident-was-legitimate-work-not-a-hack/
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>>58246569
haha literally illiterate
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The joke was "installs gentoo" which I gnushopped in the image.

Thanks for playing.
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>>58246570
provide analysis that counters anything that is released now.

i'll wait
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>>58243741
>Americans invent cars
>Get outsmarted by nips

I see where this is going
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>>58246532
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>>58246595
I already did
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>>58246573
Muslims are a lot more peaceful and don't rape anyone unlike you FUCKING WHITE MALES!
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>>58246532
>make claim that it was MUH RUSSIANS
>offer bible-tier proof
>"unless you can prove they DIDN'T do it I win!"
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>>58246611
not the youtube video from 2015, that isnt analysis. i already posted one writeup with an actual analysis of the techniques and malware used

provide something that can actually compare

i'll wait
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>>58246615
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>>58246624
provide something to counter then.

keep in mind there is more than just bible tier proof

https://www.threatconnect.com/guccifer-2-0-dnc-hack-fancy-bears/

that is just one
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>>58243861
>(I'm 30)

(No you're not)
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>>58246624
It's the liberal MO, defecate on the table and then loudly declare yourself the winner.
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>>58246564
You only believe what you want to believe. The fact is, any skid could pull these hacks off. It's all basic shit using freely available tools that have existed for years. There is no proof Russia was involved. Iran would be a more believable actor in this case.
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>>58246624
Fuck you! The truth is Hillary won because Democrats are on the right side of history! The racist, redneck white trash are in the minority. There is NO way those vote counts are anything other than Russian hacking!
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>>58246649
(Yes I am)

>>58246588
>haha literally illiterate
I'm sorry, but googling "that fucker that got shot in DC" doesn't give me any relevant hits.
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>>58246668
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>>58246663
not only are you responding to a post that has nothing to do with the original topic, but you have obviously not read any sort of timelines of the hack.
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>>58246473
IF YOU SAY SO
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>>58246645
We don't know if it was the russians.

https://www.rt.com/usa/372219-larry-king-mcafee-cybersecurity/
https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/

If CIA and FBI have absolute proofs, they should have no problem by exposing it now that Obama has gone full apeshit against russia.
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>>58246582
Proof it was legit?
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>>58246692
Hahaahahaahhahahahah!!!
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>>58246573
>Oh yeah Europeans ...
>Literal socialists and people who want muslims to replace the native population. Great rolemodels for America.
where did classical liberalism come from? where did nazism come from? where did the concepts of democracy come from?
where did mcdonals, coca-cola, many drugs and its popularization, ... come from?

yeah...
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>>58243596
Syrian pipeline to undermine Russian monopoly on providing energy to Europe by land. That's literally all this shit is. Some cunt in the Pentagon or whatever makes a decision then everyone works to meme it into reality. Meme magic is just propaganda.
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>>58246589
ya i got it nice meme you should try and get it published in a major media source lolol
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>>58246692
Are you retarded?
>>58246557
> http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/julian-assange-suggests-dnc-staffer-was-shot-dead-for-being-a-source/

Here,
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DNC+staffer+shot+dead
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>>58246706
what the fuck are you talking about? it wasn't a hack you fucking dip
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>>58246645
>a blog post
>by the same people that makes mad cash bullshitting their way to "the truth"
yeah man, we can totally believe them
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ITT: People who generally tend to believe fake news posted on Breitbart and Stormfront are suddenly becoming critical and demanding proof
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>>58246754
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>>58246746
>Julian Assange suggests
Dropped

Julian Assange also suggested that Hillary would get indicted after the October Surprise, but nothing fucking happened because Assange only reposted what we already knew about Hillary: That she has a shady history of hiding the truth
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>>58246754
Yup, the "if you dont agree with me you are racist" bullshit sure helped hillary didnt it? I really hope they keep this shit up, I mean trump isnt even in office and its looking like a second term is pretty likely
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>>58246731
This sums it all up. They thought Syria was going to go down easy, little did they know that Russia would defend it's business interests. This is about Saudis trying to make a cash grab.
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>>58246727
Like ages ago. Not in recent times

Look at modern Germany. Laughable that a mere 80 years ago there were Nazis saluting where Mudslimes rape women today.
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>>58246754
Kek, CNN and WAPO are the real fake news.

Also you just gave a tacit admission that you are just as hypocritical as those you are accusing of hypocrisy.
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>>58246754
no, I prefer to read news from the sources. in this case, the ones that published the emails were wikileaks...
so, yeah

also, keep missing the point, the russians "hacked" your democracy by RELEASING information that should have been public in the first place
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>>58246802
>its looking like a second term is pretty like
Doesn't seem like Putin and China is going to let that one fly if Trump keeps up his current hardline.
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>>58246747
Proof?
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>>58246795
How does it feel to be a government bootlicker?
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>>58246807
>Like ages ago
>Not in recent times
this is what american manchildren think

lol
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>>58246748
post something that says it was a disgruntled dnc person then

>>58246699
the first one is mcafee being his normal insane self, but obviously his point still stands about anonymity.

the second one is actually interesting, but it doesn't really sway in one direction or the other
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>>58246795
> Hillary would get indicted after the October Surprise
Well, in a healthy system she should and would have.
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>>58246834
>taking credit for things occurring centuries ago when we're discussing modern times
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>>58246830
>bootlicker
You guys really think Trump's going to be different, aren't you? kek
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>>58246847
> it doesn't really sway in one direction or the other
That's what I'm saying, we don't know if it was the russians or not.
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>>58246828
you're retarded
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>>58246829
not him, but...
did you read the many reports out there? it was a phishing campaign, i.e., social engineering, not a hack

>>58246847
>post something that says it was a disgruntled dnc person then
give us evidence that it was the russians
yeah, we are at the same level of knowledge. you decide to trust intelligence agencies (how ironic), I decide to believe what assange himself seemed to suggest (because otherwise... why would he care about some random IT guy being killed in washington?)
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>>58246859
There was no classified info on that server.
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>>58246863
How does it feel to post 10 year old irrelevant memes? Did you know that cartoonist who made that image is 110% on the trump train
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>>58246863
Post the version with the happy merchant in it
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>>58246882
there is 0 evidence it was a skid or dnc employee. there is a convincing amount showing otherwise

THAT is where its at, you can go back to /r/conspiracies for the rest
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>>58246920
who cares
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>>58246892
>actually being this butthurt
Haha
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Here's the proof morons.
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>truth trumps strikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB38DvTV5kc
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>>58246959
>The Daily Show
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>>58246920
>there is 0 evidence it was a skid or dnc employee. there is a convincing amount showing otherwise
show us, then
blogposts from the very same people profiting from warmongering aren't a good source imo.
once again, it's ironic that US "leftists" believe this bullshit. do you know anything about the infosec industry? have you ever heard the phrase "fake it til you make it?"
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>>58246870
Everything in that analysis follows the standard hide your tracks protocols found all over the web. There are absolutely ZERO indicators of ANYONES
identity revealed by the data shown, nor is it likely there ever will be if the evidence is true and complete. The people who did this would have had to have been targeted and observed beforehand to make a definite identification.
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>>58246974
the New McCarthyism is stronk
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>>58246936
>sitting here butt-hurting people.
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>>58246967
so? Using actual footage of mister Trump, just laying it flat - he just poured brown marmalade to his voters. He just doesn't give a shit, he got what he wanted.
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>>58246920
lmao its you who should go to /r/conspiracies you delusional paranoid fucktard
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>>58247012
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>>58246974
i work in infosec, and you cannot simply complain about blogposts that actually have done their research. showing some 2015 julian assange video is not nearly on the same level.

again, it is up to YOU to show it wasnt some skid or dnc person. of course it isnt 100% it was the russians, however like the idiot at the top of this bullshit stated it was not a fucking disagruntled dnc employee
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>>58246992
You're just underlying my point over and over.
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>>58246947
kek
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>>58247021
post analysis stating otherwise or back to back to /reddit/ kiddo, you are just left with inane posts with no substance. i have shown my side, time for you to return suit
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>>58246947
>We exist solely to disrupt politics, but you gotta believe us here.
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>>58247037
no retard, it's up to you to prove the Russian connection. and so far, you have failed miserably

even then, that doesn't change the sheer amount of corruption which has yet to be refuted at all by the DNC. eat shit
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>>58246959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Ftn2n1VTU
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>>58246992
Yes, for the lazy and thick skulled.
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>>58247056
ive already did but you're an illiterate fucktard kek one of the dumbest ppl ive ever seen on this site
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>>58247029
what does this have to do with anything?
I reckon you are a strong supporter of Mr. Trump.
In that case, you are right about everything, you are the best, you won the debate. I rest my case.
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Fuck off you stupid /pol/tards
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>>58247097
fuck off ledditor cuck
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>>58247112
>>>/pol/
And take your Drumpf retard with you.
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>>58247090
>I get my opinions from late night talk show hosts
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>>58247133
>>>/lgbt/
And take your mental illness with you
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>>58247060
>ALL actual information points to state actor, not a skid
>only 'evidence' contrary is a 2015 julian assange video, not even a timestamp for a point and the fact IP addresses can be spoofed

>WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON THE CORRUPTION INSTEAD OF THE FACT I CAN'T BRING ANYTHING TO THE TABLE

>>58247088
link your post, because nothing actually does anything to show it was a skid or the dnc
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>>58246847
The second one, is an individual trying to asses origin based on solely on the evidence given without context of the evidence given. Context that precedes the whole election affair.

It is plainly obvious by the information released, is not intended to isolate just the agents in question. The stix log is a complete dump of activity some which is irrelevant. The DHS report is confirming already known public evidence.

https://www.f-secure.com/documents/996508/1030745/dukes_whitepaper.pdf
Note the date on this report.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
http://www.threatgeek.com/2016/06/dnc_update.html
https://attack.mitre.org/wiki/Group/G0016
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/34899
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/06/guccifer-leak-of-dnc-trump-research-has-a-russians-fingerprints-on-it/
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>>58247088
>ppl
You must be 18 to post here, kiddo
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>>58247133
Why are "Gays",(which means happy) always such bitter cunts?
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>>58247148
>>>/pol/
Suck off your Putin loving president while you're at it.
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>>58247153
>ALL actual information points to state actor, not a skid
Uh, it doesn't?
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>>58247153
AT THIS POINT

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE
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>>58245616
Spying for intel vs manipultion of government elections.
>OH GEEZ OH BOY THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME!!1!!!1!!!!!!
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>>58243596
> installs gentoo
Wait what the fuck
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>>58247147
>actual footage of Mr. Trump talking is an opinion
sure, you are right, just don't get riled up, calm down. Just try to calm yourself down, you are doing great.
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>>58247184
>wanting war this badly

Woah, I always knew lefties were retarded, but this is next level!

Even if he were showing preferential treatment to russia, how is that a bad thing.
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>>58247207
Provide one piece of actual evidence that does.

Note that: "I already did" is not enough. If there exists a post, link it.
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>>58247244
Your president is a Russian puppet and you think that's a good thing?
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>>58247238
what did Trump say that was so objectionable to your fragile ego? I'm not watching 6 minutes of that unfunny nog
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>>58247258
Uh? You're the one making accusations saying it was "a state actor", you should be the one backing that up.
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>>58247223
It is the same. This information all gets funneled back to the U.N.puppeteers for use in there campaigns against freedom.
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>>58247223
What is "The middle east" Alex?

If you honestly think, American government hasn't fucked with other governments when given the chance, then.... I just don't have an insult for that.
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>>58247267
just admit that Hillary lost already and stop trying to deflect blame
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>>58247244
LEFTIES IN CHARGE OF "THE BUTTON"!
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>>58247287
since you obviously have not been following the reponses, this guy sums it up better than i have so far.

break out those reading glasses you nerd, this aint no spoonfeeding youtube video

>>58247168
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>>58244941
Sounds like a pattern.
Have you considered that Russia, the US, and China are the only relevant countries in the world?

Better rev up those spying programs, limey. You're already halfway there anyway.
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>>58247267
Working together doesn't make him a puppet.

Just because Obama wanted to fuck around for 8 years with our relations doesn't mean any little good attention is immediately bowing down and sucking cock.
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>>58247297
She didn't lose. Russians hacked the election results.
Just look at the results. The people wanted Hillary. The system wanted Drumpf. Russia knew this so they hacked the election results.
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>>58247349
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>>58247272
>what did Trump say that was so objectionable to your fragile ego?
Why would you think so? I kind of like him for telling the truth. The footage is him doing the thank you tour and telling his voters that basically what he told as promises doesn't really matter, cause he won. I am not hyperbolising, his literal words.
>I'm not watching 6 minutes of that unfunny nog
whatever man, do as you please, you know best (you don't even need no external info, you have it in your head - Mr. Trump is the BEST)
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>>58247349
>The system wanted Drumpf.
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>>58247349
>The system wanted Drumpf.
Fly B8.
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>>58247349
>The system wanted Drumpf
Is this nigga serious?
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>>58246863
Trump is different. Not much different but he is different in the same way that Regan was different. He ain't no slimey career politician, just a regular slimey businessman.
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Trolls trolling trolls...

How many of you are Australian btw?
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>>58247384
>liberals are actually butthurt because Trump won't lockup Hillary now
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>>58247349
>She didn't lose. Russians hacked the election results.
(Concrete citation needed) If they actually had, something would have happened by now.

>Just look at the results. The people wanted Hillary.
The people don't matter. This isn't a democracy.

>The system wanted Drumpf. Russia knew this so they hacked the election results.
Once again, IF this were the actual case, if they directly changed the results by "hacking" the polls/election results, something would have happened by now to counteract this.

But as it stands, That clearly isn't the case.
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>>58247153
> >>58246494
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>installs Gentoo
If this isn't a /g/ troll then how the fuck wont the sysadmin notice one of his servers suddenly got Gentoo and isn't doing what it's supposed to be doing?
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>>58247413
gotta hand it to you, you have some quality trolling material
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>>58246920
>>58246882
>there's zero evidence it was dnc employee but pleanty it was the russians
>there's zero evidence it was the russians but pleanty it was the dnc employee.

Fucking retards.
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>>58247448
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>>58245205
Are you retarded
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>>58247458
Well, one side has to be lying, or both of them are flat out wrong and it was actually the Hungarians.
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>Americans
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>>58247362
>>58247385
>>58247389
>>58247395
You can post all the le epic memes you want, it doesn't change the facts.
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>>58245426
>anyone who disagrees with me is racist!~

Lefties everyone
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>>58247331
Have you even read what is linked?
> some things points to russia territory
(and let's pretend hiding and leaving misleading tracks is not even a thing possibile)
> SO IT WAS THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Uh, no?
Even when what you have provided me states "it was the russian govt" it doesn't back it up.
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>>58247520
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>>58247037
>again, it is up to YOU to show it wasnt some skid or dnc person
do you even logic bro

>i work in infosec
>you cannot simply complain about blogposts that actually have done their research
sadly, this is the kind of people these infosec companies hire...
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>>58247561
She would have won if Russia didn't hack the results.
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>>58247520
Funny how you left this out of it.
>>58247416
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>>58247625
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>>58247416
The CIA/FBI/NSA have said so, and before you call them liars too I bet more than once you have used their statistics to back up any certain claim you've had about crime.

I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary it's basically Muslims vs Islam but now we get to deal with it for real
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>>58247168
>The DHS report is confirming already known public evidence.
did you read it? the report doesn't show any evidence...

>public evidence
there is none. not even the files they supposedly used in the phishing email. you just trust AV vendors and other snake oil vendors and claim "it was the russians" because they say so

>>58247223
>Spying for intel vs manipultion of government elections
>Spying for intel
heh... just look at what happened to the brazilian govt. if you knew anything about politics, you'd known that the US has done the same thing for a long time... and what they do is not only "gathering intel", they use it very conveniently

go read the history of political/military interventions by your govt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_interventions_of_the_United_States
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>>58247405
Probably none. We don't care enough about it to bother posting. I only clicked on this thread out of boredom.
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>>58247458
exactly, there is 0 evidence. as I said, you trust what one side says, I trust another side.
you are welcome ;^)
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>>58247667
>The CIA/FBI/NSA have said so
May I see this claim?

>you have used their statistics to back up any certain claim you've had about crime.
You implying I'm stupid enough to shitpost on a website that has the same fucking arguments over and over, no matter the evidence put forth?

>it's basically Muslims vs Islam
Where'd the Christians go?
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>>58247715
They lost with Ron Paul
This is an era of degeneracy.
Instead of your tax dollars going to Muslims they will be going to Israel
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>>58247763
At least jewish girls are qt though
Arab chicks are fucking shit
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>>58247763
good
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>>58247763
Well then, I guess it depends. Would you rather support a containment country for the Jews, or support Muslims?

Personally, I prefer the Jewish option in this case.

>>58247782
Some are dickable
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>>58247763
It will only be a matter of time until Trump says it's okay to be gay and okay to be trans

>>58247791
Deus Vult is no longer upon us they have lost

Zionism is now
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>>58247802
I would rather no Jews or Muslims
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>>58247835
What you're okay with, and what you agree with can be two separate things.

>>58247852
Sometimes we have to make a choice.
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>>58246528
>indicators of compromise
>there is a 21kb php file on your hard drive that uses very basic php functions
wew
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so how can you install gentoo like they did and extract information on someone you know?

you know, for research purposes
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>>58243804
> Screwing over Bernie
>when you pay someone to do what you want you screw them over
lmao
fucking communist niggers can't even read
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>>58244707
People vote, not acreage.
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>>58247890
>what is population density

at least try to not act retarded
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>>58245123
Holy hell you people really are underage. It hasn't been nearly 100 years, its been about ten. Go look at the 109th congress.
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anyone who believes it was the russians are the same idiots back in 2008 that believed obama was the devil reincarnated. obama is an idiot, but isn't the devil. it could have been some fat man from russia, but not the russian government. russia isn't THAT stupid and let alone, if they were going to do something like that, they wouldn't have been THAT stupid to leave obvious """""""clues""""""" that it was them.

you know what, to play devils advocate here, lets say the russian government did do it. for obama and his lapdog administration to come out and accuse a sovereign nation like russia of hacking is quite hypocritical of him to do so when he has equal blood on his hands. first thing that springs to my mind was the Iranian centrifuge sabotage and the entire destabilization of the middle east in places like Egypt and Syria where he, and hillary, where large influences to these unnecessary bloody conflicts. bloody conflicts that are leading to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but more unjustified bloodshed.

i find trump to be an arrogant fool, but acting like obama has been any better simply because he aligns more to YOUR distorted views is hysterical.
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>>58247685
>did you read it? the report doesn't show any evidence...
Yes I actually went ahead and read it. True it doesn't show any evidence, it's just literally a data dump. Data dump that is suppose to be cross referenced by people than know the history of these two groups.
https://attack.mitre.org/wiki/Group/G0007
https://attack.mitre.org/wiki/Group/G0016
Literally data dump without context, which means by itself nothing.

https://www.f-secure.com/documents/996508/1030745/dukes_whitepaper.pdf
This is the only actual compilation of technical information related to these two groups. It is from 2015, makes no mention of Hillary, Trump or the election because it proceeds all of it. The association to Russia is not made because Russian IP, or Russian language malware, some of the IP's involved are not actually Russian. The association is made by a long history of behavior pertaining to Russian state interest, that precede Trump even being a political figure. It is a history that begins in 2008 Chechnya.

It is annoying because it is the DHS pussy footing around. It is literally meaningless to anyone but the security agencies that know the groups. Not argument for general audience. Fucking STIX data dump that is meaningless to even senior Sysadmin and Network Engineers.
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"Yared Tamene" a system admin working for the DNC received a call from the FBI stating that their machines had been compromised.
He thought it was a hoax!
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>>58248022
The job of the SysAdmin is to press the rest switch whenever something goes wrong. Answering phones is for fucking help desk.
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>>58247935
a lot of well known russian groups show a lot similarity with well known chinese groups and vice versa. that alone isn't hard evidence to truly prove it was russia. its circumstantial evidence in the end. to come out and blatantly blame the russians for it when they don't have hard, concrete evidence, is childish. which too helps explain why they probably haven't release any documents showcasing the evidence and releasing it the way they have been. they're grasping on straws right now to save face. probably hoping something quickly comes about while trying to drag it out.
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>>58248072
this. doesn't matter what you want to believe in the end, its all circumstantial. if its not enough to toss someone in jail, its not enough to go on national stage and accuse a sovereign nation.

and plus, to quote the wise hillary clinton, what difference does it make? the documents where released. we saw the corruption in the DNC. trying to blame it on x, y, z isn't going to make it go away. learn from the mistakes. don't be corrupt and secure your shit.
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>>58247890
People live on acreage. People living on acreage have different needs than people living in cities. Therefore, to prevent the law not aligning with the needs of wherever the masse are (imagine a rural majority and relatively tiny cities), they should all get a roughly equivalent say in who rules ALL of them, and make their own goddamn laws when their needs differ significantly.

If anything, we should not abolish the EC. We should extend it down to the county level so, say, a few counties can't get together and elect a governor that would pass statewide taxes that are only necessary to fund issues in those counties, robbing everyone else.
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>>58247935
>it's just literally a data dump
a data dump that anyone could have made up, from a supposed "hack" (a phish campaign) that could have been made by any group or individual from anywhere in the world

let's keep trusting the same people whose work is to literally spread state propaganda and/or commercial propaganda, sometimes disguised as "technical evidence"

for the n-th time, as >>58246013 shows, the irony here is too big to not just laugh about this all
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>>58248072
>a lot of well known russian groups show a lot similarity with well known chinese groups and vice versa.
I'm not busting your chops or anything, but similarities don't cut it as evidence. Only in instances where tools/malware first appear, can you begin to make assumptions about their origins because shortly after initial use, they are sold or even given away to other hackers. This works as additional insurance to blur their origins. The malware used in our case can be found all over the web for free and has been used numerous times.
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Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 millions votes. Trump is illegitimate.
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>>58248276
This. We need a violent revolutionary overthrow of this illegitimate candidate.
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muh emails with no evidence just to drive a false narrative.

Hacking with evidence of a foreign power manipulating the election. President Congress and all the major intelligence agencies agree. Muh evidence.
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>>58248310
t. anti-gun faggot
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>>58248072
Why is China obsessed with the Caucasus, Turkey, and Egypt? Why are they using tools that use Russian language?
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>>58247526
Says racist things but not a racist.
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>>58248348
liberal definition of racist: might make a brown skinned person somewhere feel bad, even if it's raw classism ("these illegal mexican and central american immigrants are often bad people. we should not let them stay in our country and take opportunities away from native citizens and legitimate immigrants.")
actual definition of racist: discrimination based solely on ethnicity ("mexicans are uinintelligent and violent and do not belong in a civilized place" - "whites are the most evil people to exist. they are inherently evil and have no feelings. white men especially are entitled social retards with no compassion. we should not respect them" - "jews are the best, so we only want to deal with jews, okay, noone else, jews are the smartest people on the planet, nobody else need apply" - "you germans are a bunch of workaholics, so i'm sure you'll appreciate some overtime")
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Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Trump is illegitimate.
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>>58248434
Runs the most racist and bigoted campaign in U.S. history.
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>>58248514
the president is not selected by the popular vote. any system other than the electoral college is illegitimate and unamerican.

>>>/sweden/
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>>58248529
based on what, exactly. direct quotes
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>>58248548
google it faggot or shut the fuck up.
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Where's the evidence that he's not racist?
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>>58248582
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>>58248596
>proving a negative

retard
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>>58248548
he dislikes some mexicans and liberals strongly associate this with just disliking mexicans, period

therefore he is racist

also see: you can't like educated black people and hate hood rats because das racist, but you can hate hillbillies all you want
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>>58248773
>I assume some are good people
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>>58248164
It's cute how anything that follows the narrative you don't like is just made up, but literally ANYTHING that goes against it is the fact.

You are a tool
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>>58249029
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>>58248535
>Cuba is also part of America
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muh liberal boogeyman if you spent this much time working instead of listening to talk radio you could actually support a family.
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>>58248610
Trump is recorded saying tons of racist remarks and all you can do is spam facebook memes. You are the one that needs to go back.
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>>58249074
#NotMyPresident
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>racism is bad, we shouldn't care about race
>race does not strongly correlate with or cause culture and class ever, which never correlate with or cause with education and achievement, crime, and attitudes towards human rights and dignity
>humans do not automatically associate with members of their own race and act distrustful, wary, and apathetic in more diverse settings (i mean really even liberals admit that we do, but then say "but diversity makes you more creative in the workforce so it evens out!")

accept your monkey nature.
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