/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KbWKnn

purpose of the PC is gaming+streaming
budget is ~2000 usd
country is mid yurop

I'd like some general feedback on this build, what could be improved, apart from 1070->1080

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>Linus Buttfingerer Sebastian
>YouTube "Let's Buy!" Channels

>>58232445
looks fine, could probably save some money on the mobo and ram but I'm sure that's not your concern with a budget that big.

Can you guys reccomend an AM3 cooler the stock one is loud as shit need a silent one.

>>58232445
If you really want to spend that much, yeah... objectively it's fine. See if Asus cash back promotion applies to you, with it you can get cashback for two parts of the list: https://www.asus-deals.de/

>>58232887
Noctua NH-D15.

>>58232923
Sorry I want something for less than 25 bucks I wont overcloack

Will be buying this pc and swapping out the radeon 5830hd to gtx 760 2gb. Will swapping an old sata hdd from a previous laptop work in a desktop build?
Does anyone know if there will be any issues?

HAF X chassis
Asus P7P55D-E motherboard
Intel i5 core 760M
Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 1600mHz
Ati Radeon 5830HD
Ninja scythe 3 cooling
CoolerMaster power supply

>>58232953
See if you can find a CM 212 EVO, Cryorig H7 or something from Be Quiet, Scythe and Thermalright. Those are the brands i'd personally consider for a budget cooler.

>>58232966
how much are you paying for the 760?
and no, 2.5 drives work in desktop builds.
The worst that can happen is the HDD Is encrypted by windows, but besides that, you should be fine.

and please use pcpartpicker.

>>58233004
Thanks but what axactly are low profile coolers?

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>>58232966
>Does anyone know if there will be any issues?
>GTX 760
Yeah, a housefire issue. Fucking Nvidia cards. Here's a 750.

>>58233026
60 bucks Canadian. Getting the pc for 250. Worth it for a low end video editing rig? Would this be capable of running some low end games maybe cs go?

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>>58232445

>>58233052
Have they been known to do this

>>58233041
>what axactly are low profile coolers?
What the name says, they are low profile.

>>58233104
The housefire meme switches brands every year depending on who doesn't have the most powerful/popular card of the generation

>>58233103
That expensive fucking motherboard isn't a conformist component

>>58233082
>Low end video editing.
More like Mid-range of the low-end.

Yeah, you should be able to run CSGO on that.

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>>58232266

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xXP9nn

First build.

I'm hoping to build what is essentially an entertainment system but I'm building from the ground up.

I'm looking for any tips but trying to keep it ~$1000

>>58233654
If it's for gaming only consider dropping down to i5-6500 and non Z170 mobo.

>>58233846

Curious question: what would justify the current processor and motherboard?

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My 5 month old EVGA GTX 1060 made a pop noise and I immediately started smelling burnt solder and there was a bit of smoke. It happened out of the blue. When I took it out of the case a very very small black piece fell out from behind the shroud. Pic related, says "20|05" on top of it. After taking off the cooler it seems to have came off from near where the fan plugs into the pcb.

Any chance evga is going to replace it if I can even find the original invoice(I probably can't)? I feel like they're just going to blame it on me

>>58233914
If you plan to OC it, CPU intensive stuff and maybe the future proofing meme.

>>58233914
Well one it's nice to have so the PC lasts longer. But pushing high FPS in games like 144hz or 165hz tends to run into CPU/RAM speed limitations. Some emulators need strong single thread performance. Some games like WoW and Overwatch will gain enough FPS from a 6600k to justify it. If you need strong multi thread for like compiling or transcoding or whatever then you want to be looking at a i7e chip.

The i5 6500 is basically a 2500k. It's slow as fuck because of low it's clocked. Even a 6600k at stock speed is significantly faster because it runs at 3.9ghz.

What do you guys think about my low to mid tier gaming rig?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vwkzpb

Thinking about getting the ASUS Z170-P LGA 1151 for i7 6700k, but I'm concerned when I read a bunch of DOA reviews on newegg. Is this actually a really cheap product? It seems like all reviews of motherboards have a bunch of DOA reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813132571

>>58234048
Absolutely disgusting.

>>58234064
Explain

>>58232887
Cooler Master Hyper T2 $20
Cryorig m9i $20

>>58232266
I5 2500
GTX 760
Z68XP-UD3 gigabyte Motherboard
Coolermaster midtower case
650 watt corsair psu
Hyper 103 cpu fan
8gb ddr3 1600mhz ram

>>58234079
Everything. If you honestly think about buying this you're better off buying some prebuilt.

should i pick up a gigabyte gtx 1070 8gb founders edition for $340?

i havent paid attention to gpu news so i have no idea about new releases that might drive prices down or cause retailers to get rid of stock. i do need a new card though since my hd7970 fans are clicking.

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>>58232966
i have pic related. is it worth shelling out 300 for this:


HAF X chassis
Asus P7P55D-E motherboard
Intel i5 core 760M
Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 1600mHz
gtx760
Ninja scythe 3 cooling
coolmaster gx650

compairing the i3-2330m to the i5-760m, is the i5 better or is it a durastic improvment from the 13-2330m? currently using pic related to edit videos using solveigMM, and hoping new rig will run much better.

What is Skylake and does it have any compatibility issues or anything?

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This is my first build and I'm building an entry level gaming rig. The most demanding game I'm planning to run is Witcher 3, I don't really care about silky smooth 60 fps but I'd be really happy if this could run it like that at medium settings. I'm from eastern europe and prices from picrelated are more or less same locally.
Except case - I'm getting this one for 70
Mobo - 88
SSD - 86
PSU - 62
I'll have 1tb hdd for free soon so it's not included.
The whole package in this hellhole would cost me 706 euros in total which is more or less my budget.

My main concern if I should get cpu cooler and if I really should I can cut case to something like Deepcool Tesseract and bottlenecks from cpu or gpu. I'm not planning to OC or getting any insane crossfire combos so I'm pretty comfortable with 520W PSU, maybe I can go even lower?

>>58234207
Why are you buying separate memory? That's way too expensive.
Get it as a two. Almost any other will be cheaper.
How much is your PSU anyway? Don't cheap out on it.

>>58232266
New pc that i just built: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtN2jc

What you guys think?
Did i fuck up???

>>58234207
You can easily drop down to H110, get the cheachest 8GB kit of 2133 RAM you can find, BX200 isn't really good, what are other options, maybe PNY CS1311, MX300 or SanDisk Ultra II?
GPU is ok, but don't expect much from it, after all it's a gimped version of the 1060 6G. Also do not spend a stupid amount of money on the case, stay under 50 bucks. PSU is good, but others may be cheaper and with your build even a 430W PSU would be fine.

>>58234289
the fuck are you using a Xeon for?

>>58233654
This is almost exactly my build, except a 1070 instead of the 1060. Pretty solid, there are a few changes you could make if you wanted it to drop below $1,000 but I see no issues with this.

>>58234331
vms and shit because i like fucking around with them

>>58234295
Thank you for H110, looks cheap and I'll look into it, any advice about all those PRO-VD and shit?

The reason I tried to go with pair because of dual channel, does it really matter on build such as this?

I have PNY CS1311 slighyly cheaper and will look on it. With money from mobo I can also consider Samsung 850 EVO.

>>58234435
>PRO-VD
It's an ok mobo, no idea what other boards your sellers have in stock though.
>does it really matter on build such as this?
Not really. If budget is an issue stick to good value parts rather than to worry about stuff like this.
>I have PNY CS1311 slighyly cheaper
Buy it. The CS1311 is one of the best if not the best budget SSD out there.
>consider Samsung 850 EVO
Don't, it's a great SSD but not for your budget, invest that money into other parts.

noob here. please recommend me the cheapest CPU cooler that will "do the job"
specs
>i5-4460, 3.2GHz
>Gigabyte GA-H81M-S1
>Corsair VS Series 450W
>Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 OC
>Crucial Ballistix 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz
>240GB SSD

>>58234583
Intel stock cooler.

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>>58234473
>no idea what other boards your sellers have in stock though.
A whole fucking alphabet apparently.

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What do you guys think currently offers the best value for a 144hz 1080p machine? There are so many great options right now for sub $400 GPUs.
You have:
RX 480, in my case I can buy a $30 AIO mount for it and put my extra one on it, hitting around 1500mhz and surpasing the 1060 6gb for only $230
GTX 1060 6gb, overall inferior to the rx 480, except in blizzard games, which I play a lot of
R9 Fury, at $230 this is probably what I will be buying.
R9 Fury X at $310 its very very tempting
Cheap GTX 1070 at $375 not sure I want to spend this much when it seems I can get pretty close with the other cards. I think it's a bit much for 1080p 144hz.

>>58234207
do yourself a favor and get a better cpu, you should have a cpu that will last you awhile without bottleneck because gpu's are short term toys that are surpassed and made irrelevant. cpu's on the other hand take much longer to become obsolete.

>>58234614
really
I just figured I had fucked up when I didn't get a CPU cooler when I built my PC almost 2 years ago
should I just apply new thermal paste and maybe that will bring down the temperature to a normal level?

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/XVHJBP
How'd I do?

Ignore the warning, it's bullshit. Also most of the prices are listed as higher than they actually were because pcpartpicker doesn't list a lot of NZ retailers.

>>58234207
Specific reasoning for the 3gb 1060? If your countries prices are the same as the US there are some rx 480s that are cheaper. I can understand if it does better in the games you are building the PC for but I just want to be sure you're not selecting it blindly. The witcher 3 is single player, you will move on to other games.

Most people who play games on PC find one online game that they love and end up playing only that, be it WoW, LoL, OW, Dota 2, SC2, TF2, CS GO, whatever. Not that this is all that relevant here I suppose.

>>58234349
I think you can sufficiently "fuck around" with VMs with far cheaper CPUs and unless you needed this right now I really believe that you are the kind of the person who has the most to gain from Zen bringing competition to the high end desktop market. I would have gone with a 6700k if you want the HT, a nice z170 board that can bring it to high clocks, and you could have got a cheaper rx 480. Unless you are overclocking the rx 480 there's no point to go for that model and if you are then you would replace the stock cooler and the MSI armor models have the same PCB.
>tfw no gainward or galax in US

You spent a lot of money, it's a powerful machine, I just would have done a lot different. That is assuming this isn't bait.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PWWhKZ

How is this build? I will use for gaming.

>>58234725
the cryorig c7 is also a low profile cooler, check if it's cheaper in your country as it is in the US.

>>58234828
Do you really need a windowed case?

>>58234858
The case doesn't matter to me.

>>58234828
It's the bare standard build suggested to people. Get the EVGA FTW 1070, it has like 10 power phases and overclocks very well. Unless you bought the gigabyte for aesthetics. Good DDR4 can give up to a 8% increase in FPS, varying by the game. Why not look at the games you plan on playing and see how they scale with ram speed? I would hate myself forever if I had 2133 in a nice z170 board. You're also overpaying for your SSD by a ton. Just get the cheapest TLC SSD you can find, I just bought a 500gb for $120. Samsung isn't worth it, they all are able to saturate SATA3, if you want premium storage you need to take a trip to PCI-E land.

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Are ultrawide monitors all that great? The 34" ones that are 'gaming' monitors with 3440x1440 resolution? Are the ones that's not curved any better than the curved version?

>>58234855
I did have that in mind, but I went for the Noctua as it's smaller and has a lower TDP, as well as having a very good reputation.

That might of been a mistake come to think of it, but too late now.

>>58234828
the cases top vent is not covered and dust will get all over the place, consider the r5, it has it's top vents covered and is just overall a better case.

>>58232266
Are Asus's monitors any good? I was thinking of picking up a 1440p ROG Swift for eSports.

>>58234146
I've had it for 2 years with a few replacements. Most of. The hard drives I came across for free and some of the parts were gifts

>>58234931
Best monitors right now are 1440p 165hz, 1080p 240(265?)hz, and 4k 60hz depending on how you use the thing. Over all ultrawide just seems inconvenient to me. It would take a ton of desk space. Some games don't even support it.

I would love to have a 40" 4k TV as a monitor for my general desktop work flow because it would have the same PPI as my current 23" monitors do. It must be incredible.

1440p 144hz+ isn't even that expensive anymore but it's hard to run a lot of games at that refresh. It's a happy middleground. I would still rather play a RPG @4k and a FPS@ highest refresh possible.

1080p 144hz is a great economical choice but you're clearly not concerned about money so maybe the new super high refresh monitors would be of interest to you.

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Hey, remember me? The anon shitposting about i3 overclocks and a cooler in the mail?

Cooler arrived. GHz were had.

>>58235062
Costco has a 27" Acer Predator XB271HU for $650. 180hz overclocked 1440p monitor. Would that be better than one of those ultrawides?

>>58235121
Oh my bad, the link if anyone is intersted:

http://m.costco.com/Acer-Predator-XB271HU-27%22-WQHD-Monitor-with-Nvidia-G-Sync.product.100327201.html

>>58235109
>1.4v

>>58235147
don't let your memes be dreams, anon

(the thermals are fine and it's within the safe limits (barely) so who cares)

As someone who has pretty much exclusively been an Intel/Nvidia kind of guy, is there any real reason to go with AMD for my next build?

>>58235142
>>58235121
Do you need/want gsync? I feel the monitor is pretty over priced as there is a pixio that is 1440/144hz for $350. I mean it's definitely a premium product, but if you value your money at all I wouldn't buy it.

>>58232266
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6Vbyf
What overclocks are you guys getting with a 212 Evo? Should I get a more expensive cooler instead?

>>58235109
Please benchmark it in everything you can. I'm most interested in overwatch, but I'd also like to see synthetics.

>>58235298
I'm GPU bound in Overwatch but it's cheerfully pumping 1680x1050 at max settings 60fps.

Cinebench R15 has the stock i3 6100 at ~390, mine gets 500 (multicore CPU bench ofc)

>>58235205
rip ur vrms

>>58235383
>Z170 board
>having it's VRM ripped by an i3
I mean, it's not exactly a super high end board, but if it will happily drive a modestly overvolted i7 an i3 can't possibly hurt it.

>>58235285
Pixio? Never heard of the brand. I am going to get a new graphics card soon; I heard Jan 5 is CES and the 1080 Ti is coming. I figured if I'm going to get a fancy new graphics card I might as well upgrade my monitor as well, which is just a regular ol 1080p monitor.

How come my Samsung 850 evo m2 won't work on a rampage v extreme edition 10 and a 6800k?
My gpu is on the third x16 slot.
Already set u.2/m.2 in the BIOS too.

Titan X Pascal or the 1080 Ti when it comes out next month?

>>58233934
Just tell EVGA that the graphics card suddenly died, and you need an RMA. 99.99% it will be replaced

>>58235887
If it's under warranty they'll pretty much replace it for you. I had a issue with a GTX 770 FTW with it not recognizing monitors, they replaced it with a 970 :D

>>58235884
1080 ti

>>58233934
>Shit is literally exploding off of fucking EVGA cards.

Damn nigga.

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>>58233934
>>58235931
It's happening again

>>58235931
EVGA is the sole reason the house fire meme exists.

>>58235931
first no heat pads and cards were burning up now stuff just falling off.

>>58235955
>Exploding Video Graphics Adaptors
>EVGA

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Are there any big differences between the RX 470 and RX 480?

In Canada the difference in price is usually between $40 to $100 depending on brand and sales.

>>58235990
About 10

Seriously though, just go find benchmarks for the programs you use with them and compare for yourself

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Pieced this together out of a used junk pile around here. Runs ok? Maybe will switch CPU to an AM3+ like an FX-6300 or FX-8350? I find used ones for around $40.

Wanna play BF1.

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>>58233991
>The i5 6500 is basically a 2500k. It's slow as fuck

>>58235990
You might also want to consider the GTX 1060. But whichever card you get make sure you get the highest ram on said card.

>>58236020
See for graphics card.
>>58236035

>>58235990
>>58236020
470 is good for 1080p 60 fps on high settings, 480 is good for ultra and such as well as VR, and I guess is also better for future proofing.
Don't go for the 1060 imo, I prefer nvidia in most cases but the 480 is a better bang for your buck with recent driver updates for AMD.

>>58235974
Kek

>>58236088
I figured as much and I could play most modern games on the 470 so I saw no need to purchase anything more?

Maybe the CPU because it's an old Thuban AM3 and newer 8-cores are cheap? But I suck at this stuff.

>>58236112
Yeah I'd put more money onto the CPU in this case. Maybe a FX 8350 with a wraith cooler

>>58236112
s a v e f o r z e n

>>58236142
Damn I know! But this AM3 board and CPU was laying about maybe I could squeeze a year or two out of it?

>>58236112
the 470 will do you just fine in most situations. and yeah you'll probably wanna upgrade your CPU as not to bottleneck your GPU.
if you're OK with waiting until Q1 of next year, AMD has a new Zen CPU lineup coming out, so if you wanna get something more modern then you can wait for that.

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Thanks /g/

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dumb question time
can I unplug a fan while the pc is going? I just want to know which one is rattling hardcore

I've noticed lately that when I overclock my R9 280x and do intensive tasks that there's a smell coming from my computer. I assumed it was the power supply (old Rosewell was just out of warranty), and bought an EVGA G2 to fix the problem. Don't like dropping $100 so easily, but it's a cheaper solution than my PSU taking my whole PC down with it.

However, I decided to play with overclocking a bit more today after I got the new PSU working and brought my 280x up to 1130 Mhz. When I ran FurMark, that same odor of burning plastic emanated from my computer, even stronger due to the new fans I plopped into my computer. Now, I don't know if this is the new PSU still offgassing, but I think this means that there's something wrong with my graphics card.

What should I do - should I replace my card or fix it somehow? The temps didn't get too outrageous with Furmark (78 C), but I'm really worried that some sort of fire may start if I fuck around with it too much.

Is the smell necessarily bad? Is it safe to keep running my GPU till it dies? And is it worth returning my new EVGA PSU and going back to the old one since I have now isolated the problem?

>>58236524
can you? probably. should you? probably not.
i'd recommend turning the PC off and unplugging each fan individually, then turning it back on to see which one is causing you troubles

>>58236524
Odds are your computer will shut off.

>>58236622
>i'd recommend turning the PC off and unplugging each fan individually
I thought that would be the deal. guess I have to not do it the lazy way

Is this a solid build for my first PC? I wanted to get a liquid cooler instead of a fan, but I can't afford a nice one atm. Should I just save up for one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6PvsJ

just noticed that
>>58232445
is kind of similar to mine here
>>58237042

>>58237042
can't go wrong with the 212, it's popular for a reason.

>>58237111
thanks and checked

>570X sold out again
Fuck off ricefags

Literally can not find a decent 500-600w PSU for 99AUD or less. Does such a thing exist?
Can I get a little spoonfeeding here?

Thoughts on this build? I'm quite new to this so have approached a couple of computer stores down in Ausfailia for some help.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YW4G2R

I'm aware that generally the "gaming" mobo's are much more expensive than the standard mobo, could anyone explain why they're basically the same thing? Was also told to wait for CES 2017 before building, as the 7th gen intel cpu's will be released. There are 3 parts I've been recommended that are not on the website that I have placeholders in for, they are:

CPU: Intel CPU i5 6600k > Intel CPU i5 7600k
MOBO: Asus Z170-E > ASUS ROG STRIX Z270-E
Heatsink: Corsair H105 > Corsair H115i

The strix mobo is going to be like 300 dollars, am I getting ripped off for that?

>>58234188
pls

>>58237597
What site?

>>58237653
>>What is Skylake
>Skylake is the codename used by Intel for a processor microarchitecture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)

>>does it have any compatibility issues or anything?
>In January of this year, Microsoft officials announced they would cut off extended support for Windows 7 and 8.1 on Skylake on July 2017. In March, Microsoft modified the extended support cut-off date to July 2018
>As of this latest change, supported devices running Skylake -- here's the list of PCs that qualify, along with embedded devices -- will get all applicable security updates for Windows 7 and 8.1 until the end of support dates for each product.
https://www.google.com/search?q=skylake+win+7

>>58232445
why estorage for gaming?

>>58237597
australia must be worse for computer stuff than canada, wow

>>58237743
>streaming
He's probably recording his streams and storing them on that external drive for later use.

>>58237690
pccasegear.com or cplonline.com.au
When I think I've found a decent PSU I look up reviews and people have largely negative things to say about them
>>58237763
Yep it's not great.

>>58237611
>Was also told to wait for CES 2017 before building,
Then leave until after CES 2017.

What kind of deals on Z170 motherboards can I expect to see when Kaby Lake mobos start to drop?

>>58237821
I think NZ and AU get fucked over the hardest out of 1st world countries. $1300 for a 1080 strix.

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What is the best way to prevent gpu sag? The gpu I want to get doesn't have a backplate and gpu sag triggers the fuck out of me

>>58238131
Kebab stick.

lads I've been waiting a year to buy pc thought I was waiting for kaby lake, guess now I'm waiting for Zen. How much longer you think the wait will be? Definitely within the next 3 months? Possible it might drop February?

>>58238211
you're going to be waiting forever with that mentality

>>58238217
it's only getting more painful because now I don't have a laptop to shitpost on, I spilled milk on it last month when I passed out drunk

>>58238231
honestly though, why wait? what's zen going to offer than whatever the other one doesn't that you yourself care about

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>>58238211
>Waiting for the latest thing instead of buying whatever's in the price/performance sweet spot

>>58232266
https://youtu.be/9zMOrX3MM-s?t=10m24s

just fuck my case up

>>58238258
he gets it.

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>>58238263
>TFW when you look at case reviews for hours and then just buy whatevers cheapest

>>58238277
I just picked the 250d at random

actually starting to regret that with the open air GPU support

>>58238297
What's wrong with that?

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Some dumbass set our apartment building on fire and I have nothing to do at my parents while I wait on the insurance company to cut me a check.

Does this look okay enough to play games on. I would get a console but I don't like browsing the internet on my old ass phone. I only have a 720p TV as a monitor. The CPU and MoBo are from ebay, the rest is off of partpicker. I had an external HDD in my car I can crack open.

>>58238325
>2500K
Get a 212 Evo and you're set.
Damn son you hit the score on that with the CPU.

>>58238331
Do I have to have 2 fans on the 212? That would put me right at $500.

>>58238305
Put an EVGA 1070 in it and the heat fins direct heat up/down into the motherboard/bottom of the case or window/top of the case

So the heat is either bouncing from the heatfin directly back into the fins or it is hotboxing the limited room a mITX case would already have and infecting the CPU radiator with heat

Maybe if a GPU with horizontal fans actually fit (not using a blower that shit gets too loud at over 1600mhz) then the cooling situation would make more sense since the fins could direct heat out the back through I/O

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XLbdM8

I'm going to get nearly half of this back by selling what I'm using now to my brother, while taking my hard drives with me. Any suggestions? I plan on just riding a non activated w10 for a while.

>>58238355
>>58238305
And this really makes me think how the fuck does any open air card with perpendicular fins cool a card because those fins are pointed directly at a wall every time, small or big case

I must not be understanding how thermals work, someone please enlighten me

>>58238342
Just get it as it is for now man.

You can upgrade later.

>>58238364
You need DDR4 3000 if you want like 10 more FPS in games.

>>58238373
You need to have air flowing over the card to move the hot air away.

>>58238364
Can't just pirate that shit anymore?

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>>58238391
Here is an mspaint comic to show you how this doesn't work even with more ideal cooling situations

>>58238386
the difference of 10 burgers won't break my bank

>>58238409
probably could

>>58238386
>10
You mean 1

I was here yesterday and had some help, but I'd like another opinion since I changed some items on my list. For what I want, I am looking to make an enthusiast build that is designed for video editing, graphic design, and some games on the side. Along with that, I would like to utilize water cooling into this build as well that loops the processor and graphics card together.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8wnjvV
(I might not purchase the cooler. I have it up so the site can ignore the error.)

Does anyone have any suggestions for how I would go about setting up the custom water cooling system? I know I need the radiator for it, but I'm not sure about what kind of reservoir to look into and the other stuff and how it should flow. I don't want to overspend and not get what I need.

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>>58238439
I've got an equally shitty comic to show you what I mean.

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>>58238474
could you tell me if that is possible in something (exactly) like this

>>58238492
You could use those 80mm fan mounts to give the GPU the good 'ol succ. In through the side, out the back.

>>58232266
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Premium-Magnetic-Levitation-2-Pack/dp/B01G5I6MRK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483087195&sr=8-1&keywords=ml120

yay or hay?

my mini build is giving awful amounts of noise with the default SP 120

>>58238756
I've heard that corsair fans have pretty shitty build quality, but that might be just /g/ meme. I'd go for noctua if you can just afford them.

>>58238492
There's cents on the side u little shit

>>58239408
Vents

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>>58238492 That's what I did

So,
From what I've heard, the release price of the 7700k is going to be 350USD. That's about the same price as the 6700k. Am I misinformed? I'm building a Z170 chipset right now, what's stopping me from waiting until next month for the 7700k?

>>58239645
The fact that 7700k has higher power draw and horrible thermals.

>>58239645
7700k is pretty much 6700k on higher base clock. It has pretty much identical performance-per-clock according to early tests.

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>>58233846
>>58233914
I have a 6600k OC'd to 4.5 and shit like HOI4 and Civ6 regulary use like 50+% of the CPU.

Is a 6 core processor - i7 6800k - worth it for gaming?

>>58240955
Primarily gaming (with streaming), movie watching, photo editing, and porn.

>>58234624
>firefox
terav meemimees oled

>>58234624
Soovitan sul soojalt Hinnavaatluse foorumi ost-müük teemadel silma peal hoida. SSD'si, video kaarte ja korpuseid saab sealt väga hea hinnaga. Alles hiljuti ostsin sealt tutika RX 480 -30% poe hinnast.

Can someone recommend for a good SSD? I have no intention for it other than using it for the OS.

On a related note, can someone also recommend me a new router? I'm planning on playing MMOs again.

>>58241346
PNY CS1311, Crucial MX300, SanDisk Ultra II, Samsung 750/850 Evo. Get the 250GB version, they have much better value than 120GB SSDs.

Any monitor recommendations? I have a monitor from like 2010 I'm looking to upgrade. 23" or under

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TFQBFd

I am building a PC for the first time, I would use it for gaming on a single monitor, my budget is max 1k USD.
Should I get an SSD?
What motherboard should I get? I just randomly picked one.

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Yo my dudes is it worth it to upgrade to Windows 10?

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>>58241649
>AMD
rather get an H110 motherboard and an i5 6500 or sth
saves you money to upgrade to 1070

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Predator-XB271HUAbmiprz-27-Inch-ZeroFrame/dp/B01EN5JN5K

Yay or nay? I want to get a 1440p 144hz monitor with gsync, but acers look retarded, and asus is pretty expensive. This is heavily discounted where I live though, is it a good deal for $480? Are they likely to fall in price during the coming months?

>>58241649
this whole build is bad, fixed it for you and get an ssd later.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CXvvsJ

>>58241925
>spending extra 90$ on an mobo just to OC
why not what I said here >>58241908

>>58241946
>getting a cuck cpu
>1070 for 1080p
no

>>58241955
fair point, I didn't think about it
>cuck cpu
whaddya mean

>>58241965
no overclocking
>inb4 i don't want to overclock
then they do not belong here

>All these cpus going on sale.

I don't know if it's because the sites/stores are trying to offload stock that didn't sale from the holidays, or if they're trying to milk them before Ryzen and shit comes out.

From what I'm hearing and reading, even ff the new AMD stuff doesn't beat out intel, its such a a massive jump in performance that its gonna force intel to do massive price cuts at the lower level stuff. Am I wrong?

So I bought an RX-480 8gb and my friends are flaming me for it. Should I bring it back to the store and get a 1060 instead? Does it really make that much of a difference?

>>58242356
your friends are retarded. only advantage a 1060 has anymore is better linux drivers..... but who the fuck plays games on linux.

I have a HD 6950. What would be a good upgrade? I just want to be able to play recent games, no VR or anything like 4K

>>58242356
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137049&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL123016&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL123016-_-EMC-123016-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14137049-S1A1B&ignorebbr=1

was it this?

>>58242379
Nope. It was an 8 gb XFX model for like $220. My local microcenter had a sale on it.

>>58242403
That's a great deal for it. Tell your friends to choke on a dick. RX480 is faster in most modern games.

>>58242448
While we're on it, whats the news on Vega? Hearing next to nothing on it and my 760 is definitely feeling its age these days, most notably when I was playing Dying Light.

I linked that 480 deal earlier (not gonna move to 2k/4k anytime soon) and was thinking of getting it.

Has anyone bought a Windows 10 key from Kinguin? I'm skeptical of it.

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>>58242527
>Windows

>>58242497
There is actually quite a bit stuff about VEGA out there and we should get some more official info in the next few weeks. Hopefully at CES.

>>58242533
I'm not going to try to explain linux to my tech-retarded mother.

>>58242545
That's what babbi distros like Mint, Ubuntu Mate and Zorin are for.

Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3

Not interested in SLI or OCing, but the increased RAM speed it has over the H170 chipset makes it seem like the better choice, especially since I could get the Z170 for only 4€ more at 107€.

Any caveats?

Checked a couple of reviews and haven't found anything that made me suspicious.

>>58242527>>58242533
>>58242542
>>58242545
>>58242560
>paying for win 10

>>58242542
Thanks anon helping bro.

>>58232445
this is a really silent case/fan combo. Quieter than a monitor, build a PC for a guy 2 days ago using it.

>>58242660
What are the other Z170 motherboards from other companies?

>>58242545
>hey mom here on the left you have firefox/google chrome/internet
>if you want to shut down the computer you click that little on/off button on the right and select shutdown
Anything beyond that means your mom is an experienced normie PC user and should learn herself.

>>58242737
Some asus and MSI which got several bad reviews for a shitty BIOS and problems with RAM, and another EVGA which is more expensive.

The others were either shitty brands or too expensive for the same relevant feature set.

I can search them again, but I'm already pretty certain that those are out of the question.

Which one would /g/ get? They both look like good deals

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/172338208326?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-LI2364d-23-IPS-Widescreen-LED-FHD-Monitor-65C8KCC1US-/182366919796?hash=item2a75ea5c74:g:qJ4AAOSwImRYOZik

>>58242867
What are you doing with it? Video games? Photography?

>>58243070
Shitposting, youtube, anime and some video games. I mostly want to get something a bit bigger

Will a i7 3770k work well with a GTX 1080 Ti?

How are all the cool kids pirating win10 on a new build nowadays? Microsoft toolkit?

>>58232887
Be quiet pure Rock. 20-30 bucks up to 150watt
Idle CPU fx8320 under 10 degree C.

Does the CPU have thermal paste already applied or should I buy some?

When using the Windows 7-to-10 upgrade tool, can I choose a fresh install instead of keeping everything? Or should I just use an ISO if I want a fresh install?

>>58234048
It is okay desu. The other guy is a mad gentooman i guess.

But why like 10hdds but you cheap out on ram? I have the 2x8gb jaw rams and am comfy with them.

>>58243932
Under 10c?
Do you live in a freezer? Or is this delta-t?

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So why isnt the be quiet darkbase 900 pro /g/s go to case?

>Fully versatile thanks to modular construction, offering an relocatable motherboard tray, repositionable HDD slots, support for even E-ATX and XL-ATX as well as the possibility of an inverse layout
>Three pre-installed SilentWings® 3 140mm PWM fans featuring a smooth-running 6-pole motor, fluid-dynamic bearing and funnel-shaped air inlets
>Effective full circuit airflow system with innovative noise-reducing vents all around the case
>Completely sound insulated case with decoupled elements for motherboard, power supply and drives
>Four areas for water cooling radiators up to 420mm on top, front, back and base of the case
>Elegant, fully windowed side panel made of tinted and tempered glass
Eye-catching LED illumination with five switchable colors that you can freely position in the case
Integrated wireless charger for Qi enabled devices such as smart phones
>Product conception, design and quality control in Germany, you know they make good stuff

>2017-2days
>Not owning a fully modular sound proof case

>>58244082
>Eye-catching LED illumination with five switchable colors that you can freely position in the case
dropped

So currently, I have a FX 8320 and cheapo AssRock mobo. I really want to get an Intel CPU because emulation performance is shit (as well as CPU-bound games like Planetside, ARMA, BDO). Will an i3-6300k be good enough and a large step up, or should I look at i5s?

I don't have too much money, so if someone can reccomend another cheapo LGA motherboard I'd be grateful. I don't care about multiple PCIe slots; I have one graphics card.

>>58244110
>Not allowing for easy overclocking by switching your LEDs to blue om the fly

Never gonna make it

Will there be a big problem if the cpu watt is like 120watt and the cooler up to 100 watt?
Like I wont keep the pc for long im planning to go i5 in a few months.

>>58232445
msi is good but EVGA is better overall, but if you're just a performance freak go for msi. If you want better overalls (mlg customer support, good cooling..) Then get EVGA

>>58244148
Yes

>>58244064
Nah, it is in idle with 9 or 10 degrees.
If i play games it will rise to 60 and under stresstest 76.
Maybe too hot.

>tfw accidentally bough ricer gayman ram with blue leds
Is it worth sending it back over this?

>>58244112
Have the same CPU.
Dont have Problems desu senpai.

>>58244458
if you're extremely autistic, yes
it's only your fault you cannot read

>>58234931
I don't have one, but I've been checking them out.

The general complaints/issues I've seen is that they're too wide and wreck the UI for a lot of games because nobody supports them.

They also have low refresh rates and higher input lag - which matters a lot to me - so it's basically a no-go for twitch shooters.

Right now I'm looking at 144hz+ 1440p 27inch monitors. Only have the Asus MG278Q and BenQ XL2730Z on my list so far. Hopefully I can find a few more as good or better, need to keep my options open.

>>58244480
I didn't even realize you could get ram with LEDs. I hate gamers so goddamn much

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Apparently you can activate new windows 10 copies with windows 7 keys...

So that makes you wonder... Can you activate Windows 7 on 1 computer, then activate windows 10 on another with the same key, and use both computer at the same time with no problems?

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>>58244064
pic related

>>58244570
uhhh the leds make it go faster???

>>58244622
they authenticate with microsoft servers, so the answer is no and/or yes because your license lets you run one key on multiple computers at the same time

>>58243951
pls respond

>>58244874
The stock coolers that come with the cpu have it pre-applied.

Purchasing upgrades today, after given advice a while back here. Pic related is my current setup, it's several years old. I'm planning on starting with an RX480 and some new ram. Is there any reason to upgrade to 16GB, or is 8GB still sufficient?

>>58244891
8GB is really pushing it today.

>>58244928
Really? Shit it was only like a year ago I was hearing people talk about "8gb is all you need man getting more is overkill". So shelling out the extra cash for 16gb is worth it then?

>>58244928
Only if you're multitasking.

I only ever open 5 tabs max, and don't open any other programs when gaming. 8GB has never been an issue

>>58245003
I mean 8 gigs is still going to work for basic shit, but for games like Deus Ex:MD it's not enough. I had to close every program that i had in order to play it because it kept running out of ram.

>>58245150
http://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/

Anybody know when the AMD Zen CPUs are coming out?

I want to get a budget streaming/editing rig, and I hear that some zen CPUs have 16 threads?

Is that true?

>>58245189
What's your point? Are you saying that my game didn't actually crash with an error saying that not enough memory? Are you saying that i didn't monitor my ram usage and see it hit 7.9 and crash?

>>58245197
Next week they will be announced officially (and probably priced), they are probably in production right now or will be very soon.

February at the earliest (pre-orders etc.) so expect march-april.

The high end zen for the general public will be 8 cores and 2 threads per core (16 threads). There are other versions of zen that go to 32 and 64 threads, but those are meant for servers.

If I'm getting lower GPU performance than expected running at full load, and trouble booting back up afterwards, would those be signs of my power supply hitting its limit?

>>58245317
Where are they announcing it?

I'll be at CES next week, have they said there?

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was going to wait for kaby lake i5 7600k.... but the price of this 6600k...

What's the /g/ recommended guide to optimizing Windows 10?

>>58245471
Installing windows 7 instead.

>>58243109
Then it hardly matters what you get. Whatever is the cheapest.

>>58245389
CES is where they will announce it

>>58245404
where is that pricing from? pls link

>>58245404
You would, in all honesty, be a complete fool to buy a CPU only a week before zen announcements + early benchmarks + pricing.

Even if you are a diehard intel fanboy it makes more sense to wait and get a price drop on the intel CPU's from the market competition.

Fuck I feel like my IQ is draining having to explain this to you.

First time building a PC here, and I think I fucked up, Anons... This cooler is supposed to be a hybrid, my processor is AMD, but the thing is, the only way I could set him up was in a vertical position, meaning the fan would be throwing the air upwards, and my case doesn't have a top opening.

How bad is this, should I keep it like this or should I stick to the fan that comes with the processor?

CPU amd fx 8350
cooler evga acx
motherboard asus m5a78l-m?

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>>58246005
Also forgot the pic, so double fuck up

>>58245558
>suggesting dated operating systems that lack modern features

>>58246005
Your CPU cooler is blowing air away from the CPU. It achieves this whether it is pointing horizontally or vertically.

It is up to the case fans to remove hot air from inside the case, not your CPU fan.

>>58246066
sssssso, the fact that my case also doesn't have a fan on the back sounds pretty bad, then. Is a fan on the front good enough?

Thanks for the help btw, Anon.

>>58246003
Do intel jews ever drops their prices?

>>58246003
i dont want AMD.

im sticking with intel.
since the jump in power from Skylake to Kabylake isnt that great im building something good while prices are low

until AMD releases an rx490 to compete with the 1070 they arent on my radar.

>>58245985
microcenter

I have never RMA'd anything in my life and I'm hesitant to do so.

My 5 month old evga 1060 gb made a pop and let out a little smoke, reaked like burnt solder. It was after playing the witcher for like 6 hours straight. I had a third party cooler on it and it was running at stock speeds around 50c. When I took it out of the case i heard something fall out of the card. I couldn't find what it was though and after looking at the PCB I don't notice anything missing.

What are the chances that evga actually replaces it? I feel like they're just going to blame it on me. I have the stock cooler back on it now. This is my most prized possession because I'm a poor grad student up to my neck in debt.

This really sucks /g/uys.

I currently have 16GB (8+8) RAM right now and the same model RAM is out of stock and I need it within the next 3 days.

There is a model from the same company, same frequency, same latency, same timing, same voltage, but is 8GB (4+4)

First off is 24GB unstable? I've heard of 1,2,4,8,16,32 but I don't see 24GB all that often.

Second off, even with everything listed as the same except for the capacity, will it have stability issues?

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>>58246129
You should have at a minimum 2 case fans - one drawing cold air in, the other blowing hot air out.

>>58246537
RAM should never be giving you stability issues. If your RAM is causing CTD's you need to run a memory test to identify what RAM stick is bad, and replace it.

>>58246537
>First off is 24GB unstable
No
>but I don't see 24GB all that often
Because you might as well go for a full 32GB set of DDR3 if you need the memory space.
>even with everything listed as the same except for the capacity, will it have stability issues?
No, unless you're overclocking. The "don't mix RAM kits" meme is for using DDR2 (and older) memory and overclocking/using XMP profile, which may cause stability issues in the long term.

>>58246235
It's like my advice just went in one ear and out the other without being processed or understood.

My words are wasted on a moron.

Does anyone know if Zen is going to be DDR4 only?

>>58246558
Thanks, man

>>58246558
That's not how airflow actually works. If you wanted air to flow diagonally inside the case, then you need a fan mounted inside forcing the air through. There are too many obstacles and natural turbulence inside cases to make that possible. Do a smoke test and see for yourself.

>>58246643
Dual channel DDR4 only. I doubt motherboard makers will do a DDR3 conversion without AMD making allowances for it.

>>58246607
>>58246602
Thanks, didn't know it was a "meme"

I don't plan on overclocking.

I'm just scraping the surface of my current 16GB capacity and I'm often getting out of memory errors if I open too many tabs in firefox, and even just having chrome open in general. Mainly because I'm running demanding stuff currently, but if RAM mixing isn't something I should worry about then I guess I can just go find another 16GB kit instead of buying an 8GB one.

>>58246673
Sounds like I'll have to budget around 2x8GB sticks then.

RAM latency is best measured as CAS timing / frequency clock, right?

>>58246677
>Using 16GB of RAM just web browsing
What the fugg

I have 8GB of RAM and while I totally see why someone doing productive things might need more, I haven't found a game that will demand more. Much less shitposting.

>>58246737
>just web browsing
no I have some java bullshit running

>have a single stick of 8GB DDR4
>a second stick will cost $60+ Canadian fucking pesos
Why

>>58246762
recession

>>58246797
More like secession

Viva British Columbia Libre

What brand hard drive would you recommend? I read that WD has gone to shit, but I didn't know if that was just /g/ memeing.

>>58246845
HGST

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>>58246826
FREE CASCADIA
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>>58238364
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>>58246626
i think you like Sabotaging your own interaction with people.

you Start off being an Asshole and close out writing the person of as hopeless.

get help or please self medicate.

you decided to comment, how you conduct yourself can alter how people respond to you.

>You would, in all honesty, be a complete fool to buy a CPU only a week before zen announcements + early benchmarks + pricing.

im already setup for intel, i just need a cpu. from the research ive done amd is 2 steps behind on all fronts. i have a z170 board that can use sky or kaby lake. Price/Performance, is what im interested in and that price is the lowest ive seen.

>Even if you are a diehard intel fanboy it makes more sense to wait and get a price drop on the intel CPU's from the market competition.

you are in pc building general, you are fucking yourself if youre assuming i know how the pc market cycle works.

>Fuck I feel like my IQ is draining having to explain this to you.
you should practice fisting your prostate.

>>58246855
But Vancouver, Seattle and Portland are filled with communists who will instantly turn it into a shittier version of Canada

Can we have Cascadia, but trick the cities into thinking they're "a free alliance of city states" when really we just don't want them to vote

>>58246906
Smart guy
AMDrones told and BTFO

>>58246906
If you want our price for performance get a 6100 and overclock it. At 4.8GHz you're equal to a second generation AMD eight core.

If you want solid performance get the cheapest Skylake i5 and OC it the same way. Little less cost efficient but better absolute performance than the i3.

i7 4770 or i5 6500?
The i7 would cost less CPU + mobo wise

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>>58246970
im trying to get something that will still be relevant in a few years.
im not saying i3 6100 wont be, i just dont know... im using a Q6600 and the only reason it still decent is because it was accidently the best thing at the time.... when i hit the checkbox from dell......... many years ago.

I was going to wait for January 5th for the i5-7600k if its around the standard $250 price.

but then i checked out microcenter for shitsandgiggles and i dont know if i should jump on it and start building or wait.

i really wish AMD would release something already, i would genuinly consider their GPU's... but since they are Dragging their ass i think im going to have to go with one of the i5's and a Non EVGA Housefire 1070.

>>58246003
>price drop on Intel CPUs
>on a 6600k of all things
>6600k price is already on the best sale in the last 6 months
And you're calling other people retards

>>58246970
ZEN loses to a 6100 in single threaded performance
and don't forget, Kaby lake i3s will be overclockable too

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Thoughts?
>inb4 kangaroo prices

Have a HDD already which is why its not on this list.

>>58247376
>blower 1070
why do you do this to yourself?

>>58247418
because i am a bad person and deserve to suffer

what do you think i should replace it with then?

>>58247418
im not that guy, but mr Tech Deals says Blowers are good for getting Hot air out of the system, while having a frame or 2 less performance in game.

>>58247367
Zen benchmarks aren't even out yet.

>>58247454
But your case is huge with good airflow, a blower is better for your CPU and motherboard heat but much worse for your GPU, and I can guarantee you that your GPU will be the hottest thing in your computer

>>58247376
https://youtu.be/nf__ZGD9SUQ

evga was having trouble with some faulty capacitors.

>>58247494

The dude is being retarded because he can't interpret CanardPC's data from an A0 ES they got their hands on along with a motherboard that wasn't final either.

>>58247333
Not the guy you're talking too but I'm salty the 6600K is on sale after I blew all my Christmas money

Also nice trips

>>58247447
I guess a non blower 1070...
Strix, Gaming X, G1 Gaming... You have plenty of choice

>>58247494
There's one that shows their 8 core losing to a 6500 in single thread performance
>b-b-but it's .2GHz less than they said it would be!!!

linus destroys components and Christmas

>>58244251
what kind of problem?

>>58247521
>evga was having trouble with some faulty capacitors.
Alright, thanks

>>58247519
id love to Noctua make custom gpu coolers, to slap on a giant fan.

>>58247538

You do realise it also had the 6700k beating the 6900k in the same tests right? Given the 3.15ghz of the ES had it been running at 3.4ghz the release versions will it would be exactly on par with the 6900k.

Fuck sake /g/ is worse than /v/ at times.

>>58247570
https://youtu.be/9cX6FrTKydA

>>58247579
Well you know heatsink are just pieces of metal, I'm sure the dozens of aftermarket GPU heatsinks with a good fan slapped on are fine enough, noctua isn't the only company that can put some sheet metal fins together
The reason they aren't popular is because they're generally huge (3 slot) and watercooling looks more aesthetic and that's what people really buy PC's for

>>58247612
>the 6700k beat a 6900k! benchmark ruined data tainted AMD must not be losing this benchmark is wrong!
>he doesn't understand what single thread performance is
The core series have been demolishing all other Intel CPUs in IPC for a long time now, that's literally what they're made for
And yes, sure, if you ONLY use hyperthreaded tasks with plenty of threads available, you can get Xeon-tier performance (kek) out of zen under the right conditions
But comparing the new AMD gen to anything core Intel for single-thread performance? Enough to drive down core series CPU prices for the first time... Ever? Even if you're a diehard AMD fan you can reasonably expect that

>>58247570
>Exploding Video Graphics Adapters
>Exploding
It was in the name anon

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>>58247659

Fuck sake anon you are thick

>The core series have been demolishing all other Intel CPUs in IPC for a long time now,

No, this complete bullshit. The core series is just a marketing term for how Intel segments their chips up. Haswell and Haswell-e have similar IPC (cache differences) but rather different clocks.

>And yes, sure, if you ONLY use hyperthreaded tasks with plenty of threads available

You have no data to support that whatsoever. Even if this belief is true it mens AMD has a superior SMT implementation to Intel - something Intel has been refining for a decade.

Once again, you need to fucking read the article and not look at the graphs and take them as gospel without understand what data they are presenting. Goddamn does /g/ get more and more stupid by the day.

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>>58238492
i'd recomend taking an open-cooler designed card, since the refrence card would maybe have problems taking air in so close to the ground. Even better would be: someway add the GPU to the watercool solution so no air stays in the case

>>58246047
>muh dx12
>>>/v/
(You)

>>58247750
Are those the AMD benchmarks that said it beat a 6950x? Or is that the benchmarks saying that it *almost* beats a 6900k? Or is that the *official AMD benchmark* that shows it beating a 6800k?
Or did they lower their standards again?
Or is that the blender benchmark?
The one where clock speeds didn't matter to AMD?
Or the one where clock speed differences are so important that AMD actually wins even when they lose?
Either way, this highly multithreaded program that takes advantage of 100% of zen, just barely beating beaten by Intel (which destroys zen in single-thread)
I mean this is all based on your assumption that zen will drive down Intel core CPUs, a fucking 6600k at that, which has absolutely no competition at all in the single thread
But all these multi-threaded benchmarks favoring and and single threaded be channels where it loses to a i3 must mean than zen is great for single core right?

>>58247813
Dx12 is a big deal, it's a bigger deal for technology than it is for games. Proper multithreaded support built in at the API level, that's incredible.
It's the reason why AMD and their army of cores might make a comeback with games

>>58247860
>DX 12 is a big deal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
>the only game worth playing on the list is the new Hitman
Really makes you think.

>>58247886
>Replying to a troll
Literally why

>>58247886
Games using dx12 can fuck off, but dx12 should and will be the new standard. Looking at dx11's capabilities in comparison, it's a wonder that dx11 games are still being made
You want a quad core limit or a 6 core limit? Proper hyperthreading? Efficient core by core usage of gpus?
Dx12

>>58247903
I'm bored, that's why.
>>58247911
>waah I wasted money buying an i7 for my gaymen rig waah

>>58247911
>Looking at dx11's capabilities in comparison, it's a wonder that dx11 games are still being made
Because gamers dont want Windows 10 Please-Fuck-My-Personal-Data Edition

>>58247940
Well that's a shame, and that's personal preference, but api vs api, dx12 win every single time
>>58247924
No I said dx12 is better than dx11
I thought this was a technology board, not a consumer company product review board

>>58247991
>I thought this was a technology board
That changed when reddit cross posting and tripfagging became the norm.
Go to lainchan if you want discussion.

>>58247991
>and that's personal preference
Not really. Its a fundamental right that shouldn't be infringed without just cause and 'we want to sell all your data to advertisers' is not just.

Looking at doing a major overhaul of my PC
>Current
>Planned
>Why

>i7 4790K
>8 Core Zen or 7700K
See motherboard, it's a catch 22

>16GB DDR3
>16GB DDR4
Again, see motherboard

>MSI H97M-E35
>Gigabyte/Asus mATX for whatever CPU I get
My motherboard is a piece of shit and getting hold of a decent LGA1150 board is like gold dust (Brit fag)

>GTX 780 3GB
>RX480/GTX 1060
3GB RAM is limiting now, that and it makes a weird noise when the GPU is under load (No errors or such, but still quite unnerving)

>WD Green 2TB
>HGST 2TB
Heard about the whole thing about WD Greens failing due to that whole spindle thing so fuck that

Other than that, I've got a Fractal Design Node 804, an RM850 and a H100i v2

>>58248021
Just use two OSes you dummy
Did you buy a console or what

>>58248038
Or you know, everyone could keep using W7 and wait for W11

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>>58246558
Airpressure my friend

>>58248033
That's a lot of money for not that much upgrade gains
Your CPU is fine, your GPU isn't that much worse than what you're planning on buying, and your computer works
Buy a new GPU first and then see if you still need a new CPU/motherboard

>>58248062
Yeah, I'm sure they've learned their lesson about datamining from 10 amirite?
/g/ has surely complained enough to change microsofts business model amirite?
The several completely new OS'es they've rolled out as "updates" have nothing to do with "Windows 11" amirite?

>>58247783
*i mean no HOT air stays in the case

>>58248102
>about datamining from 10 amirite?
It was one of the worst adoption rates for an OS considering it was free so yes, they really really did.

>>58248073
Just say intake in the rear you autist

>>58248114
So it's not botnet anymore? What about the new OSes they've made? They aren't actually Windows 10 so they're clean right?
And I can get Windows 11 for free as long as I complain on /g/ and install 7 over and over right?

>>58248077
I know it is, I've got a buyer lined up for all my old parts so the total isn't too much counting that off.

I would have preferred to get a new GPU and leave it there for a while but I should have elaborated on the motherboard, it works alright for the most part but every now and again one of the chipset drivers crashes crashing the whole system. Also I have to keep disabling and re-enabling my Ethernet because that will just stop as well. and for the price people want for 1150 boards (a decent one at least) I might as well do a full upgrade

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>>58248073
Meanwhile; in Australia

>>58248114
>consumers get product for free, don't like it
>Microsoft gets ad money for pushing Windows 10
>continue pushing Windows 10 and ads, fuck the non-paying customers if they don't like it

>>58248127
Uhh, are you being silly or something. W11 doesnt even exist yet.

Also yes W10 is still botnet to max.

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>>58248167
So therefore dx11 is better than dx12 amirite?

>>58248173
Are you actually trying to be retarded

Literally no one is claiming that

The advantage of using Dx12 is outweighed by the cost of having W10 and developers respond to what gamers use which for the majority of serious gamers is still older OS and Dx11

So until M$ either unfuck W10 which isnt going to happen or release an entirely new OS which uses Dx12 and isnt Vista tier shite you can expect Dx12 to stay dead.

>>58247911
Doom's vulkan performance has shown everyone that if you want high performance in your vidya, you design for vulkan, not dx12

On top of vulkan having better support across platforms

DX12 only has momentum behind it, nothing else. For the suits who want to use the 'no-risk' option, they'll go with it.

For anyone who actually knows what the fuck they're doing and aren't incompetent retards, they'll go with vulkan.

>>58248073
I thought watercooling was a total meme not worth the money

and you have to clean it out monthly

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>>58248212
>superior technology on superior OS
>shared data is dealbreaker for me because I can only save all my porn on Windows
>Microsoft bankrupt and finished

I can either get RX480 4GB for 236 euros or GTX1060 3G for 230. I'm watching performance test and seeing that GTX is slightly in the lead, yet people say that RX480 is more future-proof, can someone explain further?
I'm getting his to i5 6500.

>>58248245
Dx12 and Vulkan have the same advantages over DX11
And what non-doom game runs on vulkan?

>>58248322
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)

>>58248245
>dooms vulkan performance has proved
The only thing that doom proved was that a team of competent devs can make ANYTHING run on shit hardware
Doom is too well optimized (regardless of API) to be a good example of where an API succeeds and fails

>>58248349
>doom
>Dota
>people who say they'll support it but have not
Wow u sure showed me

>>58248307
1060 isn't designed with certain types of data processing that can be done in parallel instead of in sequence, while the RX480 is.

The new API's - both DX12 and Vulkan - put a focus on in-parallel data processing, which the 1060 will not be able to take advantage of. The advantage the RX480 has in this area will become more and more apparent as more DX12/Vulkan games come out. This isn't an issue restricted to just the 1060 - the entire 10x0 line from nvidia isn't able to do the parallel processing that AMD's GPU's can.

The 1060 is a dx11 card. The RX480 is a DX12/Vulkan card.

>>58248392
Are you talking about async compute, which has been on nvidia gpus since the 980ti?

>>58248409
>async compute, which has been on nvidia gpus since the 980ti?

You evidently can't tell the difference between marketing and reality.

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>>58248429
K

>>58248301
>Yes, no
>Yes
>No

Please kill yourself strawman

How much important is the PSU?
I'm building a 6700k/1060 rig, and I'm picking a thermal take Berlin, since it costs 60€ and the tier I PSUs don't dip under 120€.
Am I doing something stupid? If so, why?

>>58248836
Very Important.
If PSU fucks up, it can fry the whole motherboard or worse.

Get a PSU that's rated 80+ Gold or higher for higher end builds, bronze if it's a budget build.

Seasonic and EVGA are the only ones I trust, because both(probably not EVGA, someone catch me on that) manufacture and sell their on PSUs unlike other companies where they have someone manufacture it for them then they sell with their name on top.