/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Mechanical Keyboards are a meme for autists.

>>58187527
Mechanical keyboards are a meme for kids who say "I will do it."

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early for sharp things

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>>58187562
>not using exacto knife for sharpening these bad bois

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>>58187519
im sorry but i dont get the appeal of the HHKB. i understand that it has a certain feel to it and that it is infinitely programmable but the F keys, keypad, arrow keys, and the other keys that it lacks are just too convenient for me to buy into the meme.

also its over $200 that is completely unjustifiable for a keyboard.
at least at my current sallary. if you make enough the good for you.

i cant deny that it does look cool.

>>58187527
i spend most of my life at a computer whether its at work or at home. so fucking sue me if i want a specific feel from my keyboard.

>>58187562
bro get a knife that can handle some actual work. that thing looks like it will snap at the smallest amount of tension

>>58187612
>bro get a knife that can handle some actual work. that thing looks like it will snap at the smallest amount of tension
>doesn't know Opinel

>>58187612
I don't mind the lack of keys because I need the space and the arrow integrated arrow keys are decent enough for when I do (a few times a day).
If you import it from Japan and use a proxy it is much less expensive and I don't mind losing the warranty.

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>>58187527
You sir are correct. Rubber domes are were its at.
Hopefully the rest of these kiddies, and the whole industry for that matter grow up and realize that.

>>58187690
Just not using the rubber dome for activation, as that requires one to smash it really hard into the membrane.
Using capacitance is a much better method.

>>58187648
thats all well and good. to each his own im just not a fan of the minimalist platform.

>>58187632
it might be just me and the brutal work i put a knife through but that knife would snap after less than half the work ive put mine through. if your just stripping cat5 and opening boxes then it would work fine and probably maintain its edge (depending on the materiel).

>>58187690
i tried the rubber dome thing and i didnt like it. although it did survive multiple alcoholic drinks being poured into it so i cant deny the durability. call me an autist but it just didnt feel right.

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>>58187612
you can keep your tacticool shit bruh, that's not really my thing

>>58187690
>having to bottom out your keystroke to have it register
fucking mongoloid

>>58187738
dude I've cut countless hashish bricks with Opinel knives those thing won't break.

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>>58187738
My biggest improvement would be to have this be the layout.

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>>58187757
>He doesn't know about capacities switches
>laughinganimegirls.jpeg

>>58187759
and if they somehow do, they cost like $20 to replace

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>>58187761
More or less that layout.
I would love arrow keys to play metroidvanias and there's a lot of space to work with on the bottom row of the HHKB.

>>58187782
it depends on the model (size) the decent ones are not that cheap

>>58187781
enjoy your shitty rubber poorfag

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>>58187738
Maybe one day when you grow up you'll realize that capacitive rubber domes like topre are the true endgame to all mechanical keyboards

>>58187748
you ragging on me for "tacticool shit" is absolute hypocrisy. your keyboard is the definition of meme.

now that thats out of the way. we each have our own devices that perform the actions that are called for in our daily lives. pry a 70 lb comm system out of place so you can get your fingers in to replace it. or hack through a dozen thick pieces of coax in a day and get back to me. honestly let me know if this conversation needs to go any further so we can take it to /K/ where it belongs.

>>58187816
so what exactly changes the capacitance? the spring?

>>58187834
ye

>>58187834
Topre switches have been around since the 1980s. They were never designed for consumer products, but rather for industrial applications due to their increased durability over cherry mechanical switches. It wasn't until recently did we start to see them appearing in keyboards. The only thing the rubber dome does is provide the tactile feedback and weight for the switch. The capactibe spring only provides 5g of force. The nice thing about being capacitive is the inherent nkro, and the increased durability. Its also doesn't feel like traditional rubber domes since its much smoother and softer

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>>58187827
>your keyboard is the definition of meme
kek, agreed there

>now that thats out of the way. we each have our own devices that perform the actions that are called for in our daily lives. pry a 70 lb comm system out of place so you can get your fingers in to replace it. or hack through a dozen thick pieces of coax in a day and get back to me. honestly let me know if this conversation needs to go any further so we can take it to /K/ where it belongs.
this sounds pretty autistic senpai

but I think I agree with what you're trying to get at. I probably wouldnt use an opinel in hard labor work

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>Upgrading from a Planck to an Ergodox

Am I falling for a even bigger meme?

anyone have experience with ducky keyboards?

>>58187984
> gang members knife (piss off I know its origins)
> peasants knife (name says it all)
hopefully you didn't spend money on these

>>58188130
>non-standard layouts
kys famalam

>>58187984
two individuals in agreeance regarding their differences on 4chan.

a red letter day ladies and gentlemen a red letter day.

>>58188168
>>non-standard layouts
It's just a bunch of 1u keys.

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>>58188130
Nah, it's a good board.

>>58188406
Wouldn't those slide around a lot? Just how heavy are they?

>>58188425
It doesn't actually. There's just some electrical tape on the legs. I need a more accurate scale, but it's around 7-8 pounds.

>>58188406
no one actually uses shit like this, right?

>>58188524
Of course not, that's just a CGI render anon :^)

>>58187510
Fucking JIS layout, so close to perfect with that bottom row, and yet it's got a shitty ISO enter and 1u backspace bringing it down.

>>58188773
1u backspace ruins it for me just as much as the large ANSI spacebar.
I actually like the large enter key because it is easier for me to hit.

>>58188799
I'm not opposed to ISO enter from any usability perspective, mostly from the perspective that the only profiles you can get ISO enter keys in are Cherry, OEM and DCS, none of which I am a fan of.

Hey guys, just ordered a Unicomp Ultra Classic. How long should I expect this thing to last me for? My current keyboard just started double tapping about a week ago, already tried cleaning it with no luck.

>>58188892
>How long should I expect this thing to last me for?
It will outlive you.

Thoughts on Corsair keyboards?

The Vengeance K6 is on sale and would be my first mechanical

>>58188961
Read the OP links.

Corsair is decent quality-wise, but the looks are questionable and non-standard 5th row means you can't easily buy custom keycaps.

>>58188951
Hell yeah, I'm excited as shit man.

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how do KBP keycaps compare to the cheap Tai Hao shit?

>>58188985
What switch do you guys recommend coming from a long time dome user?

>>58189111
Pretty sure if it's double shot and OEM then it's Tai Hao.

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>>58187572
>not using a chisel
Get on my level scrub

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>>58189170
Not sure what you're going to use it for, so it's hard to recommend something specific.

>>58189440
ignore this meme, buy topre

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>>58187527
You're not wrong.

>>58189170
I just got my first mechanical keyboard with cherry blue switches.
I love typing now.

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Does anyome have experience with these?

>>58189959
The colors are really beautiful.
My only complaints are that you only have F11 and F12 for custom key lighting presets.

All the LED controls are done through the keyboard too, if that bothers you.

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I recently bought the Poker 3 60% kb with clear switches. Sadly I don't like it very much.
For one, it feels to me like the Clear Switches lack feedback when it registers a click, and on the way down it feels like it's scraping along the walls.
The other problem (which I'm to blame for, for not paying attention) is that the kb doesn't have arrow keys or a seperate delete key.
Now I'd like a kb with arrow keys, a del key, more HNNNNGH on the way down and some UNF at the bottom.

>>58189440
fps gaymin and online shit posting

are reds a marketing meme? I hear brown is best

>>58190645
FC660C

Or FC660M if you're a FAGGOT

>>58190650
reds are blacks for babies with no finger strength

>>58190650
Brown is the shitty in-between of reds and blues. They don't feel as good to type on as blues and aren't as fast as reds. The marketing over reds is meme up to a point. I use blues, and while they feel amazing to type on, it is slower to double tap a key. It doesn't bother me that much personally, but a lot of people don't like playing games with it because of that. Reds however, are great for that specific scenario, but they don't feel anywhere near as comfortable to type on as blues. Again, browns are really just a somewhat shitty in-between.

>>58190763
Gateron browns are fine

>>58190771
that's because basically all gat switches have much smoother contact surfaces on the stem compared to modern cherry

so the flaws of browns are downplayed

>>58190717
>200$ keyboards
yeah, nah. Also, not available on german amazon anyway.

>>58190831
then get some generic tkl loser

>>58190645
Get a TKL with Blues.

>>58190763
>double tap
On some street fighter combo shit? Doesn't this cause typing errors?

I don't want a loud keyboard and from my research domes are around 50-65g and browns seems to be the best bet
>>58190724
is this new reddit generation brittle boned? This light switch thing sounds like laptop keyboards

>>58191055
>On some street fighter combo shit? Doesn't this cause typing errors?
Some people do have issues with misclicks because they're so light, but yeah, it helps when doing fast actions like what you mentioned and double-tapping skills on MOBA/MMO for example.

Blues are pretty loud, so that's not really an option. As another anon said, Gateron browns may be better, but I've only tried Cherry ones, and I don't really like them. If you don't want a light switch either, maybe look into blacks or even clears. The easiest way to solve this is by getting a switch tester.

how good do those aliexpress topre mx sliders feel? im tempted by an fc660c with mx stems and dsa caps for my next board so i can see what the topre meme is all about

>>58191088
How common are the typing errors? I've been typing/fps gaming for years with domes only so the sound of this concerns me.

>>58191236
I haven't used a board with reds regularly, only tried them out, so I don't know how big of an issue it is when typing, but I assume it's not that big of a deal after you get used to it.

>>58190763
browns have similar activation pressure to rubber domes which is why people coming from rubber domes like them

In other words, it's the natural choice for people who have no reason to have a mechanical keyboard and don't want heavy presses clicks and nodules getting in their way, but fell for the meme

>>58191267
Would rings fix this problem? I imagine they add some sort of weight/resistance

Why aren't SP's cream colours available for one-off DSA keysets? I just want some tasteful cream and deep red caps, but all they can offer me is bright white or bland grey instead of cream.

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Britbong here looking for a transportable Mech wondering if you guys can help.

>50£-100£ Can stretch if needs be just light this month due to Holidays.

>Uk - England

>Would prefer clicky switch mostly going to be used for typing however.

>Whatever is closest to most UK layouts preferably honestly I do not know much about keyboard layout.

> TKL numpad not needed however arrows required.

>Back light not required but would be nice, if it impacts the size requirement forget about it.

>>58191400
O-Rings are mainly used for sound dampening, and to slightly shorten the travel distance so you don't bottom the keys out. They don't make a difference on the switch actuation point or weight required for the actuation.

>>58191478
keyboardco dot com
have a look around, don't be afraid to use the contact form, you'll get responses quite quickly and they're very pleasant to work with, been chatting with the owner recently and he's a great guy, they're based in the UK as well so the shipping is real fast.

Clicky switch for typing >> look for blues or clears (though don't throw matias switches out of the window, they are really nice too)
UK layout can be found on site for most
'TKL' is a full size without the numpad, so inclusive of the arrow keys, anything less is usually referred to as a 60-68% keyboard layout.
Backlighting is a bit of an odd one, I don't like it but you limit your options if you desperately want it.
How heavy are we talking by the way? A solid majestouch-2 TKL is ~1kg and just slightly above budget e.g.

One thing I noticed with mech keys is that bottoming out with no rubber is kinda uncomfortable to the finger, because it's just bumping hard plastic.
Whereas on a rubber dome you have some cushioning by default.

I don't know how most mk-ers are ok with this, it's an obvious disadvantage.
Do o-rings fix this?

>>58191630
You are objectively wrong, the hard bottom out of stock Cherry switches feels infinitely better than the mushy uncertainty of rubber domes.

>>58191531
The majestouch actually looks quite idea for my needs, weight and size are fine. My job requires me move around a ton, and I lug a lot of tech around.
The laptop my company supplied has an absolutely trash keyboard that I cant stand. and I was just looking for alternatives.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction mate.

>>58191388
there is no comparable tactility to browns in any rubberdome switch.
They are not similar. People that use o-rings fit your description though.

So I'm trying out some Cherry switches and they wobble a bit left-right...
Are there any switches that don't do that?

>>58191917
Topres

>>58191931
Is Topre the masterrace then?

I've been watching some reviews and it seems better than Cherrys.
Frankly the Cherrys feel a bit cheap.

>>58192194
matter of taste really
if you don't like cherries you might like topre though

>>58187612

Opinels have done a fuckload more actual work in their history than the tacticool Jamal stabbing fantasy tanto half serrated prybars or the factory edged pocket jewelry flipping toys manchildren carry.

>>58187738
>>58187827

>Hurr durr that knife won't stand up to being used as a prybar

Go borrow a sharp knife from someone else and

K Y S
Y
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>>58187562

>>58187816
>endgame

That would be buckling springs. Model F > Model M > hot steaming garbage > all other switches.

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>tfw waiting for keycaps in the mail

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>tfw ugly ass moogle space

Just got a blackwidow chroma, what am I in for? Got it for a hundo

>>58190831
caseking.de
There you go retard

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0.01 Z70 on Massdrop.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/z70-mechanical-keyboard

>>58192913
>laser-etched caps on a non standard layout keyboard
well idk about this
also +$60 for zealios switches

>>58192913
I wouldnt mind the layout as much, but that connector is an instant no buy

>>58192913
What possible upside is there to that double spacebar? Unless you type through find and peck, that shit is useless and will lead to mispresses.

What's the USB connector on the Anne PRO? Can't find much about it in the product description and pictures. Just bought one, and I already have an existing keyboard with a detachable micro-USB cable, and it would be nice to use the same one for both.

>>58193089
more keys usable with your thumb is a swiss flag

>>58193107
Did you watch a video review

>>58193194
Shit, I'm retarded. Usually I completely ignore videos, but there's actually one in the product description, and it is indeed a micro-USB. That should make things a lot easier while using multiple keyboards.

>>58193144
More like an Italian one. It is two keys to serve the same purpose as one and it requires re positioning of the thumb from the natural position.

>>58193276
They keyboard is programable so you can do whatever the hell you want with that bottom row

Stupid question, does the price/key tester matter?

Is there one tester more authentic than the other one?

>>58193527
No. It just comes down to the variety of the switches on the tester.

Anyone have a recommendation for a keyboard with an analogy stick?

>>58194071
>analogy stick
u wot m8.

>>58194111
Some games analog movement is better than using WASD.

>>58193089
an enter key
>>58194071
>a keyboard with an analogy stick
You mean Trackpoint like the Lenovo laptops?
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40PGA
If you mean analog like the PS3 controller then I can't think of any.
The closest would be the Realforce RGB but it can't do what I think you want it to.

>>58194071
I guess the closest thing you can get is a Razer Orbweaver with their knock-off Cherry switches. Either that or the Tartarus with rubber-domes or the Logitech G13, which also has rubber-domes I think. I don't think what you want really exists though, so using a controller is probably easier.

>>58194071
If you want analog switches for things like racing games then those do exist, but I don't know of any mechanical keyboards with an analog stick

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>>58192913
Waiting for the RAMA keyboard GB in January, myself.

>>58190650
I play Counter Strike on a Unicomp and a polling rate overclocked Intellimouse.
The answer is yes. Reds are a meme.

>>58192266
Agreed, they have a similar set up to topre, in that they are hybridized, but they feel amazing and provide tactile feedback (and at that, extremely accurate feedback).

What MX switch is closest to the black Alps found in the AT101W?

>>58194904
none

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>>58194904
The difference between alps and cherry switches is pretty drastic. The closest you can get would be MX clear, and even those don't feel as similar

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Hello mkg, I'm trying to resolder a led in my cheap chinese kb without any knowledge in electronics or or soldering, how should I proceed? The led is the F key one is that matters

>>58194337
What switches m8?

[spoiler]css?[/spoiler]

So where the fuck is the Topre Realforce RGB being sold? I see it available in Australia, in one online store, and Massdrop. Is there anywhere else?

How do o-rings affect the typing experience and feedback? Does not bottoming out makes any real difference?

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>>58195226
Its being sold here in North America as well. Ncix and Microcenter both have them. You can even go in store to try them out

would these fit on a cm quickfire rapid lads?

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1947

>>58195315
Yes.

>>58195315
Pretty sure they do.

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Has anyone had success in repairing a Model M this this method?
http://wiki.geekhack dot
org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod


I have two keyboards that had liquid spilled on them, and they stopped working correctly. I took one apart and noticed that a lot of leads on the membrane broke. I fixed them with a conductive pen, but buying a new Model M was cheaper than spending $40+ on drills, taps, and machine screws to put it back together.

With my luck a friend spilled beer on that replacement keyboard, and so I got a 3rd replacement. Had that one for almost 7 years now. Have two broken ones in a box.

These things do not like water.

>>58195367
Ship the broken ones to some Deskthority nerd who actually wants to repair them. If you ever spill something on a keyboard again, unplug it right away and dry it for at least 48 hours before typing on it again.

>>58195397
I unplugged it right away, and washed it in distilled water, and then air dried it for 2 days. On the first keyboard that somehow damaged the membrane. Second keyboard the same thing somehow gave it sticking keys, and cross firing.

>>58195435
Replace your dishwasher immediately.

My current Model M keyboard is finally starting to die, after about 8 years of near daily use. The left ctrl, '/" key, and numpad enter stopped working so I'm going to use this as an excuse to buy a new keyboard.

>Budget
$150, $200 if it makes a big difference
>Location (continent at least)
Utah
>Preferred switch type
Loud and tactile, so MX Blue I guess
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Full
>Backlight
Nah, I don't like being able to see the gunk under my keys
>Previous/current keyboards
IBM Model M

I don't care much about looks, as long as it has thicc and pretty heavy keys I should like it.

>>58195596
Unicomp ultra classic.

Or if you want to try something new then Ducky sells some full size keyboards with PBT Dye-sub keycaps

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1685

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>>58187748
>>58187827
>>58187984
did somebody say tacticool shit?

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>>58195717
>He doesn't have tacticool rails on his keyboard
what kind of pleb do you think I am

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>>58195766

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>>58195596
Oh, I should also mention that I like having the enter key be large like pic related

>>58195641
Trying something new sounds fun
>Estimated Arrival: 12/30/17
err

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>>58195789
Should have bought one when they were in stock. They sold in in less then a month and now you have to wait until next year.

If you like big enter keys then the steelseries 6gv2 has one

>>58195717
I would put my JP's HH key on the bottom right but I bought a blank HHKB.

>>58196129
it makes a nice windows key

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>>58195766
wtf

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>>58195789
>>58196204

>>58195192
Unicomp is Buckling Spring.

Yes, CSS, I also occasionally play GO and I don't mind 1.6 either.

Do I go for Leopold FC980M or the Ducky One?

Also, is there an MX Cherry keycap set that looks identical or really similar to the Model M keycaps? I've been looking everywhere but the closest I've seen are these >>58195837

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>>58197278
Leopold, easy
don't need RGB backlighting

>>58197298
Alright thanks, I was just about to get the Ducky but I decided to check the shop one more time just in case.

How do I get the one on the bottom though? Or is that the Topre version? The white is nice but that one looks better.

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>>58197278
>Also, is there an MX Cherry keycap set that looks identical or really similar to the Model M keycaps?

EnjoyPBT Dyesubs maybe?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ENJOY/32694867686.html

>>58197486
That one does seem to be the closest one, that keyboard looks great. Price is a bit steep but I'll definitely be getting those, many thanks.

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>>58197580
if you are still here there is a cheaper set that also has more color options, and some other languages if you want Arabic or Japanese for example
https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/mc-rebirth/

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Well it looks like fucking shit, but that should fit my poker case now. Need to make some holes for screws though.
Also waiting for my diodes to arrive so I can start soldering that matrix together
Also also need to figure out how to program that chink arduino knockoff

>>58197953
The extra language options with a cheaper set is great but that one has the legends in the center, which I don't really like much but thanks for the suggestion.

>>58190763
And I'm guessing blacks are good for games but not for typing.

>>58198121
There is no such thing as a typist switch. MX blacks have been around since 1984 and people have been typing on them perfectly fine for the past 30+ years

>>58197429
The bottom one is a Topre version.

>>58198246
I meant they're not as comfortable as typing compared to a domepad or MX blue switch.

>>58198267
rubber dome*

>>58198265
That's a pity, it looks really good but I'm not even sure how Topre even feels like, let alone have the money for it. I'll just go with the white instead.

>>58197953
That looks great and it even has my special snowflake ISO but
>$30 for shipping
oh hell no

>>58198294
It's about as smooth as Gateron.
They're really nice, typing on one now.

>>58198302
Its only 18 bucks for me :)

>>58198267
Its all a mater of taste. Some people prefer linear switch while other don't. Since you bottom out anyway it doesn't really mater that you can't feel the actuation. Some people like that since its slightly faster to type

where can i buy beige SA profile keycaps? I'm jewish if that helps

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>>58198364
SP is the only one that sells SA profile keycaps.
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/blank-key-packs/
If you do want something similar then the Chinese are planing on making their own knockoffs soon

>>58197298
you must be retarded

>>58192913
>$230 with zealios
fuark

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>>58192913
best layout

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>>58197278
Hey that's my keyboard.
If you want similar keycaps i know that the Chinese have some on aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/mechanical-keyboard-thick-PBT-keycap-cherry-mx-OEM-height-side-print-grey-white-similar-granite-classic/32711894266.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.30.JsTuBK&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_116_10065_117_10068_114_115_113_10000009_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_503_10055_10054_10059_10099_501_10078_10079_427_426_10103_10073_10102_10096_10052_10107_10050_10106_10051-114,searchweb201603_2,afswitch_5&btsid=72fcc0dd-f654-4d15-ac5b-ae908162624b

>>58198869
How are those keycaps holding up?
The S seems to have some kind of tint on it, like it's wearing down.

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>>58198902
Those were the stock Ducky keycaps. I haven't bought a new keycap set since I'm waiting for GMK carbon.
As for the tint I found out that with dye sublimated PBT keycaps, especially on the Ducky ones, there is a common issue where the keys will bleach over time when exposed to sunlight. It most likely a quality control issue since it only happened to that one keycap. I don't really mind since I'm going to replace them when carbon drops so until then I'll live with a bleached S key.
For some reason that hasn't happened on my model M which is almost 30 years old. I guess Ducky just needs to work on their keycaps

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Okay guys, I've taken in all your advice and discussions and sticky information, and helpful replies, but I'm gonna go with the entry level direction and buy a cheap Cherry MX Blue keyboard just to see if mechanical keyboards is a thing for me and to get a proper bearing on what switch I want (since there is no physical shop with a proper display of keyboards around, I dont want to buy a Ducky keyboard for 200€ just to realize that THIS switch sucks for me).

I'm gonna go with the Fnatic Gear Rush MX Blue keyboard, its on a good price right now and it comes in my local hieroglyphs with a "non-tacticool-gaymer" font and design.

Thanks!

Fucking mechanicalkeyboards is only fulfilling preorders of the ducky YOTM from the 14th and before and i ordered mine on the 16th
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>58195766
>a picatinny rail
lol for what purpose, so you can mount optics to your kb

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>>58199208
just buy a cash register for 10 bucks dude if you are in Europe.
G80s come with blacks and browns as the most common switch. Blues are on the newer ones and are more expensive, but they are still under 40 bucks. Even if you don't like the switch you can take the vintage doubleshot keycaps on sell them on deskthority for like 40 bucks and put that money to buying the keyboard of your dreams

>>58198752
Welcome to meme switches

>>58199319
Evaluating the costs of a second hand keyboard vs buying the cheapest local keyboard I might save 10-20€, but that does not include the value of hassle and shipping time, which makes it about even if it were for the fact that my holiday leave ends right before everything arrives.

Thanks for the reminder though!

>>58199927
Don't buy it second hand. Get it from surplus retailers

Any Europeons here ever bought anything pricey from Massdrop? Do you get fucked with customs?

>>58194071
TEX YODA

>>58199974
I wouldn't want switches with such high travel for mouse buttons.

>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/z70-mechanical-keyboard

why is this $160? it's the first mech keyboard i've ever thought was 'pretty', but what the hell makes it so expensive?

how do japanese keycaps work?

ex. the "a" key has "は"

>>58200194
Machined aluminum is pretty expensive.
Plus people will pay that much.

>>58200226
It's the controller that sends codes to the computer.
So if you have the keyboard as the US English one, a board with Japanese keycaps like the one from OP will type like a normal one.
The extra keys will not function.
sauce: hhkb pro jp

>>58200253
>This 3-degree angle, which is extremely difficult to machine, adds to the keyboard’s streamlined profile.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/z70-mechanical-keyboard

>>58200226
you press the kana key which cycles through hiragana and katakana, the keyboard will change its layout accordingly

What are some good Topre keyboard accessories?

There seems to be 2$ lube on WASD. Should I go for it, or is this lube more appropriate?

http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant

>>58200579
Elitekeyboards recommends against Krytox because it separates over time.
They sell this: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2
There is also this, which is recommended by Ripster. I plan on lubing my old HHKB just to see what happens and I plan on using it.
Apparently, it's popular for bikes and guns or something.
https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482883874&sr=8-1&keywords=teflon+lubricant+20g

>>58200579
>>58200663
Here is the comment.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1u3by5/all_about_keyboard_lubes/ceefaxh/?context=3

Is there any difference from using rubber domes and blue switches when playing games? I'm thinking of getting this while on a budget.
https://www.amazon.ca/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Water-resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482884174&sr=8-1&keywords=tomoko

I've noticed that my HHKB moves a little when typing and I'd like to reduce this.
What are some good feet to reduce friction?
I mean like plastic nubs, not that silicone puddy.

>>58200226
Switch to a Japanese layout in your OS and the key will correctly type the ha kana and not the letter a. Real Japanese Keyboards have additional language keys that cannot be simply placed on an English layout keyboard though. It's also not worth it to learn the native kana layout when you can just use an English layout with Japanese input enabled and type the letters h and a (romaji) to get the kana instead.

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Did not get it.
Is there a new Poker keyboard beyond Poker III?

>>58200757
>>58200226
for an image, look at OP's post (self-plugging)

>>58200734
>http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant
how cares it only like 30 bucks. You can extra tactile feedback and that's about it.

>>58200735
3M pads

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>>58200805
It's 53 for me, that's why I'm deciding if it's worth the hassle.

>>58200835
Sucks to be a Canuck I guess. If you don't like it you can always return it

>>58200771
Yeah, that's an actual Japanese keyboard which even if you type in romaji the additional keys are very handy, but the people with the Japanese keycaps on ordinary English layout keyboards are tryhards because I guarantee they don't actually know the kana layout nor do they have the additional keys to make it useful.

>>58200859
Can you return items on Amazon? I didn't even know.

whats the general opinion on the Filco Majestouch Ninja 2? I got the MX Black version a while back and never bothered to ask about a second opinion.

>>58200958
Its a solid and well built keyboard, but their keycaps are some of the worst

>>58200958
Filco was top tier Cherry keyboard at the time, but the ABS caps are bad especially at that high price. There are cheaper options now with similar quality like the Rosewill.

>>58201066
That's because Rosewill is just a re branded Filco keyboard, at least the new ones are.

>>58200991
>>58201066
what do you mean by poor keycaps? I haven't had any issues with typing or gaming on mine. what constitutes a good keycap?

sorry, I'm a little new to mechanical keyboards and got this one as a gift.

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>>58201100
They're just thin, pad printed (or lasered?) ABS caps. The higher quality keycaps are thick, and either PBT dyesubs or ABS doubleshots. Though nowadays companies can do PBT doubleshots.

>>58201100
Pad printed ABS garbage. My $10 rubber dome has better keycaps.

Got a Choc Mini with Cherry MX Blue and I'm going to buy a IKBC Poker 3.
How does the Red ones compares to the Blue ones?

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>>58201100
Filco keyboards will end up having their legends fade off and develop a disgusting shine over time. Other keyboard makes figured out how to prevent these from happening, yet Filco doesn't include them despite cheaper keyboards having them.
Even though my rubber dome is also ABS they had the sensibility to laser etch it.

>>58201201
Well worth mentioning they circumvented pads wearing on the Ninja by moving them to the side.

>>58201150
I want a FC 980C so bad after looking at the right keycap.
They are 1.5mm, right?

>>58201383
Should be, yea.

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>>58201391
Even if it doesn't include 1.5mm PBT, it's so sexy.

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>>58201443
I would have bought that keyboard if it was released a year ago back when I wanted to buy my first mech.

>>58201483
The pictured one has Topre switches.
Although I have 2 HHKB's I wouldn't consider not buying it.
If Realforce continues to disappoint I might buy it once I get bored of my HHKB.
I still have to find decent PBT Topre spacebars though.

>>58201522
>PBT Topre spacebars
you can get them on ebay now from the same company that made them

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xtopre+spacebar.TRS0&_nkw=topre+spacebar&_sacat=0

>>58201546
I bought 4 Chinese spacebars.
They weren't visibly super bent but they made this horrible sound.
Also where they came in contact with the slider they looked rough.
As you know, Topre has two pieces that go inside the slider.
On one or two of them, one was thicker than the other, making it difficult to put in.
From trying all of them out yesterday my hands are a little sore.

My first purchase was a rosewill rk-9000 with blues in 2011

I'm still using it

I'm thinking about getting a new keyboard, ducky year of the monkey or realforce rgb?

>>58201692
buy
>>58201443
also they shouldn't be compared as the switches are too different

How good are WASD caps?

>>58201773
They're not.

>>58201779
i hear the ABS is pretty decent quality
not the coating unfortunately

>>58201692
Get the Realforce RGB if you have money. A regular Realforce is fine too.

which place other than massdrop for custpm caps is recommended?

I see these links, but i don't trust much sites and massdrop doesn't have any current drops i like
geekhack
pimpmykeyboard
vendio.com
imsto.cn

>>58201960
mechanicalkeyboards has some thick PBT sets.

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>>58201975
these are pretty cheap
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=gateron+pbt

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>price out planck kit
>its the cheapest diy kit out there
>its still $200
>I still have to assemble it

This hobby is a racket.

>>58201960
I got Icecaps from pimpmykeyboard. That website sells good THICC keycaps. Do recommend

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>>58202463
>niche low production volume boards are more expensive than mass produced standard shit

Who would have thought?

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>>58202562
Mass production may be expensive when there is quality.

>>58187810
>topre
>poorfag

>>58187816
You're a moron
FUCK OFF
THIS IS A MECHANICAL KEYBOARD THREAD
YOU RUBBER FAGGOTS DO NOT BELONG HERE.

>>58202821
Topre uses metal in its switch design, making it mechanical.

>>58202902
I threw some tin foil under my rubber dome keyboard, is that now mechanical?

Moron.

Fuck off HHKB / Topre faggots.

>>58202927
>not used in actuation
>not mech

Are there any mechanical keyboards with dedicated macro keys that aren't overdesigned gamer trash?

why do cherryfags get so butthurt over topre? it's clearly obvious topre is a superior switch.

>>58203083
Any fully programmable board out there.

>>58203083
No, but you can make macros with your mouse software possibly.
AutoHotKey also allows this.
You could use alt + a key to trigger a macro.
>>58203100
That might be expensive though.

>>58203100
>>58203114
Alright, I was thinking about getting a Ducky One anyways.
>>58203086
Topre isn't a mechanical switch faggot. Go back to r*ddit.

>>58203123
>Topre isn't a mechanical switch faggot. Go back to r*ddit.
right, it's even better, they're basically variable capacitors, you can't beat that with your shitty mechanical switches.

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>>58203140
>muh capacitive

>>58203190
The superior Model M uses capacitance.

>>58203207
No, model M uses a membrane. Model F's are capacitive. Model M boards are IBM cutting costs since Fs were getting to be too expensive at the time.

>>58203223
He's a topretard, don't expect him to know anything about keyboards.

Hello /g/ I've taken a look through the buyers guide which was very helpful. but does any one have any suggestions on a simple 80% ASCI keyboard.
I'm not looking for any special switch just a good 80% keyboard PCB.
Maybe preferably with a detestable output.
if you have any suggestions thanks for your time.

>>58203190
who would be autistic enough to seriously consider using this giant fucking unwieldy industrial grade terminal

>>58203223
>The superior Model M
the keyboard superior to the Model M*

>>58203316
For the switches. There are smaller old model Fs around anyway. Or you could buy one of those new F62 model Fs.

>>58187761
This gave me a migraine, windows key for the love of god? Please make me understand!

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>>58203475
At least it isn't a bubble key.
With a generic meta key or a blank one it would be much less offensive.

Thoughts on Magicforce/Qisan and Quickfire line by Cooler Master?

Don't care if LEDs don't work over time, only interested in keyboard performance

>>58204311
>Qisan
Uses Kailh, supposed to be even worse than Cherry MX.
At least the QF doesn't use them, I think.

>>58204391
You can get it with gateron or cherry switches

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Any of you /g/uys know how I could take out this stem?

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>>58204311
qisan magicforce come with gateron, which is nice, some of the CM boards have good build quality.

Dumb question: To replace the switches on an LED keyboard, do I need to desolder the LEDs too?

>>58205510
Most likely yes.

>>58205510
Yes.

>>58204911
only way i can think of would be to heat up a small piece of metal and stick it in the broken stem wait a bit then pull out the metal

>>58204911
Have you tried washing the cap with lukewarm water + soap?

>>58205540
>>58205549
Thanks. I have a bag of zealios and am currently looking for a TKL board to put them on. All the more reason not to get an LED keyboard.

>>58204911
dremel

>>58204911
which part needs to stay intact?

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identify my friends Chinese knockoff keyboard /mkg/

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holy shit something is finally happening

>>58204911
Drill a small hole in the middle?

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should I? im poor

>arrives in may 1st

>>58194320
What are those two boards? they look beautiful

>>58206614
>cherry mx brown
you know you can get them with the better gateron switches even on amazon?

>>58206685
gateron is available here too

my issue is that if i get anything from outside the EU the shipping is like fucking massive

but i just noticed that i cannot buy this because its over 40$ which is basically the limit in my country to get anything from outside the EU zone

if its more expensive then you have to pay an extra 27% to eve get it as tax, so people wouldn't buy good from outside the EU zone

so uhm, do you have any EU amazong links for the gateron switched black cased ABS magicforce keyboard?

>>58206713
>>so uhm, do you have any EU amazong links for the gateron switched black cased ABS magicforce keyboard?
https://www.amazon.de/Mechanische-Gaming-Tastatur-beleuchtete-Tastaturkabel-Qisan/dp/B01E6SM2XY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1482922039&sr=8-5&keywords=qisan+magicforce

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http://www.kbdist.com/

Who else gunning for Honeywell GMK?

My Viper needs a facelift.

>>58206726
>no reviews
>no leds
uhm

>>58206743
i just picked one of the black ones.
here's more
https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=qisan+magicforce&sprefix=qisan+ma%2Caps%2C210&crid=1SUGVI7T8IS6D

>>58206743
>hinten beleuchtete
nevermind my german is rusty

still id be scared to buy from someone with no reviews

>>58206753
im just a bit worried it might be german or something even tho it looks US ANSI

and the keycaps arent listed either if they are ABS or not, i'd want to switch them in the future and stuff

god wish i had more money then i wouldnt have to do the poverty option

>>58188168
>defending qwerty
how many times were you dropped as a baby?

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>>58188524
i love mine a lot.
>>58206824
>tfw trying to learn malt but not having enough time

Does anyone here have a magicforce 68? for some reason the ctrl+shift+esc combo doesn't work for me on this (and yes I have changed the esc key function to be esc)

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>tfw waiting for diodes

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>>58207164
w- where are your stabilizers?

>>58207285
pics of you wearing the ears when?

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>>58207322

>>58207285
I didn't put them on yet, I actually still need to make some holes for the screws, only put the switches on for the picture

>>58192913
are zealios worth paying premium for? otherwise there seems to be little reason to get this over a poker save for the space bar

>>58207385
The space bar and dedicated arrow cluster + nav keys is the entire point.

>>58187827
Knives are for cutting fag

There is a reason we have specialized tools

All you are doing is abusing your knife

Shit, I even own an essee 5, but that is meant for situations where that is the only tool I have

You are on the wrong website friendo, you belong on arfcom

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>>58187510

>Ebin portal keycaps XDDD


Holy fuck they make me way more mad then maybe they should. Any keyboard I see with them is instantly shit.

>>58207779
That looks pretty cool though

>>58208013

It's cancer dont encourage it.

>>58207779
>>58208078
It is pretty cancer, but there are way worse things out there. It doesn't look that out of place compared to shit like """"artisan"""" keycaps.

>>58208078
Why though, just because it's an overused meme doesn't mean it doesn't look aesthetic

>>58208110

Having themed items of things you aren't actually passionate about is bad.

A million people have these keycaps but when is the last time they booted up portal you think?

They don't give a shit about portal they just like it cause it reinforces their vague "Gamer" identity.

In other words, cancer.

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Should I get a leopold topre?

>>58208304
did you test if you actually like the feel of domes with sliders?
i would first check out some BTC 51X9 keyboard first since they are very similar.

>>58208338
I've tried topres before on a novatouch. I wasn't entirely convinced desu but I've heard the typing feel is different from topre to topre and is especially different on the novatouch.

>>58208351
well there are a few types of topre switches and i heartly recommend to check a few out and check if you actually like the switches before paying for them.

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How the fuck do I program this chink chip

>>58208503
Using Linux and probably Arduino IDE.
I don't know what you can do wrong t b h, or why you ordered it in the first place. Or why you dont google it.

>>58208538
>Using Linux
Do I have to?
>why you ordered it in the first place
People said I could use it to make to make a keyboard instead of a teensy
>Or why you dont google it
Well I haven't been able to find much about people making keyboards with arduinos, and the arduino won't upload to it for some reason

>>58208503
Atmel provides a tool for uploading the firmware, there's an a guide on geekwhack to it

>>58208692
Thanks anon I'll look into that

>>58208703
Let me know how it goes, I'm currently waiting for some of those chips in the mail

Corsair Strafe Cherry MX Red is on sale for $90 (CAD). Can I get anything better for that price?

>>58205617
It's so washed out by the bright lights that I can't get a good look at the switch.

>>58208338
No they're not. I've tried both.

Yes Topre switches are expensive as shit, but they're awesome. BTC domes aren't "85%" as good as Topre switches. The sliders very smooth and it makes them slick and crisp.

Remember, we're all nerds that have self-control and hoarding problems who spend their cash on the keyboard equivalent of luxury cars and turbochargers.

Try a Topre keychain tester if you want to get a feel for Topre switches.

Ducky One TKL or Filco Majestouch 2 TKL? For someone who has a set of PBT caps.

I think I already know the answer to that.

>>58199266
So you can snipe n00bz easier m8

>>58191478
tada68

>>58210276
>luxury cars and turbochargers
Mechanical keyboards are the equivalent of spending $2000 on a steering wheel

>>58194320
Is that the RAMA board? Looks nice. Almost the same layout as the tada68.

That bezel around the edges, though, breaks the deal. Why get that when you can just get a tada?

>>58198821
This is the only "full-size" layout I would ever consider and I love it.

>>58203608
That god damn gap triggers my autism every time.

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So that's what the end product will look like
Pretty good desu

>>58208304
yes, but you should wait for the FC 980C in white.
>>58210276
>BTC domes aren't "85%" as good as Topre switches.
Does this mean you like BTC switches?
I like Topre and I'm interested in buying them.
>>58210652
It's unsightly but it makes it easier to find without looking down.

>>58210788
got no interest in full size boards or even tkl, thanks though

why is it so impossible to find a ducky one tkl to ship to the UK that doesn't use fucking milk white switches

>>58212164
Because you are poor. Just buy it from either the US, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Finland, Sweden, etc.

They all have it in stock with a variety of switches

>>58212271
apparently i can't search for shit cause the only ones i can find in stock are from the US, with US layout

>>58212297
You really aren't trying hard enough since even Iceland has it in stock. I can't find it in Britain tho

https://www.tolvutek.is/vara/ducky-one-tkl-mekaniskt-cherry-mx-brown-usb-lyklabord-rgb-led-svart

>>58212333
yeah i've been looking for non-rgb ones (which i probably should have specified) but even still seems like they're out of stock everywhere i look
thanks though

>>58212297
take your pic, pretty much everyone around you except for Germany has it

http://www.duckychannel.com
.tw/en/partners.html

New thread

>>58212519
>>58212519
>>58212519
>>58212519
>>58212519

>>58210716
Nicr, though you should bleach the spacebar

what would be the problem with just adding a membrane layer to mechanical boards, not with the intention of changing how they feel, but in order to protect the mechanical parts from spills, dust, rust, and crumbly bits?

>>58212767
One issue would be that it could wear out.
A more effective way would be to add one of those coatings that they use in smartphones to make them waterproof.
Then you could just run water over it for cleaning.