/wt/ watch thread

First for Tudor

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2rd for new LM special and a successfully nabbing a black turtle for 215$.

>>58012338
good buys

>58012185
yes that and the part that it wasn't really that well made anyway and I lost interest in watches in general. The alpha is just an toy anyway and its toy money.

>>58012411
dis:
>>58012185

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nine balls

>>58012626
>Sinn
But afaik all their movements are the usual generic outsourced shit.
So what makes them so special?

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I have been really starting to love the explorer 1, I don't know why but it looks increasingly more attractive every time I look at it.

It's hard for me to classify this watch/style, because it's sort of a weird hybrid. What do you even classify an explorer 1 as? It's case is sort of pilot-y but not the dial. It's definitely not a dress watch. Sort of sporty but not something I would consider a sport watch.

What would you classify/call an explorer 1 /wt/?

Also I assume partly because I don't know what style it is it's hard for me to find something similar. What other watches share this style in the sub 500$ range? Doesn't have to be a blatant "homage" like the Smiths Everest, just the same vibe (it can have a date window and I wouldn't mind for example).

I have only been interested in dive watches for the longest time so I have no idea about this shit.

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I just received this as a company christmas gift.

I've never owned a wrist watch before, so I know nothing about them.
Is this any good?

Skagen 858XLSLB

It looks dusty because the protective sticker is still on it

>>58012920
its a mountaineering watch senpai>>58012920

>>58012920
Maybe a really nice field watch?
The SARG009 is kind of similar, but not quite.

>>58012920
SARG009 (or 007 if you're willing to shell 500$), otherwise one of the Seiko Alpinists like the SARB017.

>>58013052
Also the SARG005.

>>58013012

Yeah I've come across that one before in my searches, I would have bought it instantly if the numerals on it weren't so colossal.

>>58012943
you got them for free and they look nice
why not? they are not expensive to return

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>>58012920
Timex make an Explorer 1 homage.

>>58013099
Timex has many nice designs, being "American", but their movements and build quality are absolute shit. I wish they'd just go with Miyotas and SII's like the rest.

>>58012776

Engineering and manufacturing quality. I've handled a Sinn 856 up close and the manufacturing quality is obvious. Plus a stock ETA 2892-A2 or Soporod A10-2 is in my view better than Omega's co-axial meme.

>>58012338
Also in regards to the black Turtle, despite the stock strap being known to be bretty i'd still like some more options.

So far i'm considering: extra thicc zulu, simple nato, vintage regimental perlon, or haram leather.

>>58013236
Well I guess I can definitely see the value in a truly well-made and solidly designed watch with a generic movement, priced fairly. Especially for utilitarian watches.

>>58013298

So basically anything.

>>58013321
Kinda.

Guess i'll get that regimental perlon while it's dirt cheap.

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Nth for Seagull 1963

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I'm buying a fake watch.

Which one?

>>58013518
A fake Komandirskie.

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still waiting for someone to tell me the downsides of a bulova accuswiss chronograph

someone said I should go oris or fortis for "a little more", but I could find no used examples for even close to what I can get a few of these bulova for.

if I wanted to spend a couple grand, I'd save for a speedy, but if I'm only spending 500 I'm not going to be as picky

>>58013518

Both are ugly to me.

>>58013518
Right because flat tummy and nice pits

>>58013564

It's pretty fucking ugly. Those indices are gross.

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First part of rayskin strap. I'll do the other half tonight when I get home from work.

>>58012920
An explorer i is a dress watch. Explorer ii is a mountaineering watch.

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>>58012199
a158

>>58013518
A fake F-91W.

>>58012943
Literally dog shit tier quartz fashion watch.

>>58012943
It was free and yet you still paid too much.

>>58013664
i like the ray skin itself but the stitching seems really thick and out of place

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>>58013664
looks breddy gud, but that cutting mat is disgusting bruh

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>>58013589
there are a few models and stock photos never show a watch well

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whoever posted this: that's one sexy mutha

>>58012920
how to classify the Explorer 1?

outdoorsy active gentlemans watch, in the same vein as the Alpinist without the loud colors on the dial. I like the owl penis fine but the green and gold isn't exactly subtle

>>58014938
It's a real shame that seiko seems to have discontinued the white/gold alpinist. Not the current sarg one, but the one with the sexy hands.

>>58014843

Don't really have anything thinner that would give a nice contrast. I didn't want to risk smaller stitch holes because I didn't know if the hide could stand up to it.

>>58014874

Thanks, bud.

>>58014874
>Tfw I got warned for reporting that shit as false report

Fucking nigger mods.

>>58015241
sorry, i didn't think posting just the link was going to be an issue.

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What's your favorite daily /g/ents?

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>>58015546

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steel bezel or black bezel?

methinks the steel bezel

>>58015629
Black bezel is more legible.

Steel would only work if polished.

>>58015643
I don't know how much I will actually use the tachymeter

>>58012776
>The only thing in a watch is its movement
Seriously, this needs to stop.

>>58015629
I like the dial on the one with the black bezel better. What material is the bezel made of?

>>58015677
Never said that.

>>58015686
amazon says stainless steel but the paint makes it look like plastic to me

>>58016062
Painted bezles are bad news. It's just asking to get fucked up.

>>58012943
If you like it, then great... But it's a quartz fashion watch, it will work, but there is literally nothing special about them. Even though it's danish (arent they?) they don't have any Bang&Olufsen design history and the movements are just a common off-the-shelf quartz movement they bought from some factory.

It will tell time and it looks fine I guess. We are a bunch of snobs though, so you will likely not get praise for this.

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>>58015546

>>58012943
I wouldn't recommend you buy one, but it looks decent and I would definitely wear it over nothing.

>>58014908
Too bad it has a habit of out right stopping for no reason. I don't wear it much but I might take it to a clockworkers shop.

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Picked this up awhile back and still on love with it. The pinstripe dial and blue hands are eye catching.

>>58016755
Literally my face when I scroll through /wt/.
Nothing but commiewatches and nipwatches.

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I polished an SNK809 that I bought for my brother for Christmas. Looks pretty okay.

I visited a Swatch store today (I had time to kill). I wanted to see the Sistem51, since I had read about it and it seemed interesting to see in the flesh.
The salesman was talking to a guy wearing a Hamilton Khaki ("I regulated it myself and it's as accurateem as a Rolex!"), and they were both agreeing that Rolex was a rip-off and you were only paying for the brand. I was already glad I came in the store to hear that. No mention of Omega weirdly enough...
I handled a Sistem51 (and an Irony - I have to give it to them, they're very well named). It axtually didn't feel too bad, and the movement is quite interesting.
But even more interesting was the sales spiel. I mentioned I owned mechanical watches when asked if I knew what they were. The upsell points on the Sistem51 were then:
- the circle rotor, which is twice as big as normal, half-circle rotors, so the watch charges twice as fast.
- the barrel, twice as big as usual watches again, which gave it a 90 hours PR. Fair enough on that one.
- the laser adjustment, which meant is was about twice as accurate as a regular mechanical watch.
- the price, which was very competitive for a swiss-made mechanical.
I'll let you decide which of those points are actually good and which seem like bullshit made to trick people...
He had made no mention of the fact that it's machine-assembled, so I brought it up. He didn't seem to think of it as an actual upside of the watch, interestingly enough.

But the way they sell those things is quite interesting. To the mechanical watch owner who doesn't know much (like the guy with his Hamilton), they make it seem like a credible alternative to other mechanicals.
I would love to know how they sell the mechanical thing to someone who isn't already interested, though. I'll have to check out another shop and feign ignorance to find out. I will make sure to point out how retarded it is to wear a watch that is more expensive and less accurate.

>>58017047
thanks for the blog post

>>58016992

For what reason?

>>58016992
You did it after all.
That bezel looks good. The lug seems weird from this picture though.

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>>58017047
That's a special kind of autism.

>>58017047
I should have brought up servicing and long-term life to that one salesman too, now that I think about it.

>>58017055
Aren't you interested in the Sistem51, anon? It's a shame to just dismiss it as crap and move on. I find it much more interesting to find out exactly how trash it is, and in which ways it might not be totzl trash.

>>58016992
I don't like the polished steel with that strap.
Could work with a rugged leather strap.

>>58017097
Please point out the autism to me. I'm too autistic and can't figure out what you mean.

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>>58017137
>feel of superiority to the normie wearing a Hamilton Khaki
>feel of superiority to the salesman
>visit different stores in order to ask about the same product

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>>58015546

hey fuck you guys, I just handled a hamilton khaki in the flesh and it was pretty gud.

it seems like a perfectly viable option for me, although I don't have a seiko boutique near me to handle a sarb.

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Today was our Christmas Lunch at work and a lot of the Big Wigs at my company were here for the event. I work for a European Company in the Energy Business and the term "Disposable Income" takes on a meaning that most can never imagine.

I've always been a watch person but this year I got into the REP game and the bug has bit me pretty hard...

With those two things said, I spent every casual conversation trying to figure out who was wearing the most expensive watch. It was impossible! I made out two Breitling's, an Omega, a Rolex, and the rest of them could have been a Timex as far as I could tell.

I realized just how hard it is to tell what watch someone is wearing even when your specifically looking. It's hard to even make out what Brand!

I can safely state that 99% of the people you see daily have no idea whatsoever that you are wearing a "Fake" watch. Having that conversation is just plain silly!

>>58017280
That is true for normies, except when you come by a watch aficionado like me, I will spot your fake from a few feet. Then I will chuckle and look down upon you, maybe even make a remark about it to in person. You will sweat bullets. I've done this before to people, the look they give me is either distressed or full of wonder and disappointment (since they didn't know they had an fake).

I've spent hours studying real watches and the fake ones, especially when I've got a few expensive real ones it's good to know who's wearing the fakes.

It is dangerous to wear an fake, especially the day when I come and ask you if I can try your watch.

>>58017379
But why?

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>>58017379

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>>58015546
Man on the fucking moon of course

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>>58017379
>an fake

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>>58015546
My usual and at the moment only go to beater, at least until either the turtle arrives or i decide to order a new case for the Amphibia.

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>>58017379
>me when I'm in the vicinity of this guy

>>58017274

Noone is dissing the Hamilton you tard.

>>58017602
English is not my primary language.

>>58017443
>>58017434
For the fun of it, and it literally makes you look like a vain criminal in the normie eyes when I reveal you.

>>58017690
wait a while

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Was thinking of buying a Sea urchin, would this be a good first buy for a non quartz watch?

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>>58017763
Yes its a nice sports watch, normies will love it. Its not a diver though.

On a separate note, what do you guys think about the bulova moon watch? Or should I go for the much cheaper alpha speedmaster?

>>58017883
How is it not a diver? It's styled like a diver and has adequate WR for recreational diving, what more does it need?

>>58018037
It is good for swimming but not diving. I think it is a good choice. There are also some nice mods you can do if you get bored with it.

>>58017883
Moonwatch by far.

>>58018037
One could argue that it's not an ISO certified diver, or it just lacks 200m's of WR.

Either way it's a sports/recreational diver, decent choice for babby's first mechanical.

>>58017883
I think there's something more... honest about the Bulova, it's fat though. Thankfully the lug to lug is manageable.

I just checked the specs on the alpha. It's listed as 16.5mm thick. Christ that's too thick for a handwinding chronograph.

Bulova has watches with a 7750 that are thinner than that.

>>58018071
Where can I learn more of what mods I can do with this watch?

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>>58017883
Alpha is trash, the Bulova Moonwatch is probably the only good-looking watch Bulova makes today.

>>58018122
Google.
I'm pretty sure there are pelagos, sub, fifty fathoms, and other non-homage mods out there.

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>>58018122
this is the model that most mods use. It's usually cheaper, looks better stock, and has more mods available to it because that bezel style is what many make inserts for

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There's nothing quite like driving through a literal fucking blizzard to get some dim sum at a place so Cantonese they call Mandarin speakers gewilo...the joys of being a fat Canadian.

>>58018194
Thanks for the help

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Feels comfy, man!

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>>58017047
>the circle rotor, which is twice as big as normal, half-circle rotors, so the watch charges twice as fast.

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>>58018325
Eh, calling someone a gweilo is almost an endearment at this point. It's like a joke to Cantos. My Chinese girlfriend has familiarized me with the Mandarin term "guizi", which seems like it's actually supposed to be legitimately offensive.

What kind of snow tires do you have on, my fat friend from Toronto? And do you have a chronograph to time your commute and see how much the snow has delayed you? It's bitching cold in London right now, by the way.

>>58018934
the bond edition seamaster has a neat rotor that goes about 4/5 of the way around, but I doubt it is weighted specially

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>>58019089

>>58019139
yeah, you can tell it is weighted similarly to a normal rotor.

>>58016438
This is the nicest Vostok ever. Which model is this??

>>58019171
What the salesman said is complete bullshit, regardless.

>>58019215
of course. a circular rotor that's weighted like a half circle is not going to be more efficient or charge faster

a circular rotor that is weighted evenly will barely spin at all

>>58019139
I'm strongly considering picking one of these up just for the antimagnetism. Can any other watches come close? I know sinn has some on the order of the milgauss, but I'm not sure I have seen one match the Aqua Terra specs.

>>58019181
710007, with a custom Amphibia SE bezel.

>>58019327
After Omega comes the IWC Ingenieur

but what kind of magnetic fields are you exposed too?

>>58019729
On the average day just electronics but depending on the week they can get to the 10^3 gauss range. Every once in a while a couple Tesla. Probably won't go near those again until spring.

>>58019327
Pretty sure the SBGR077/079 can also fit if you're just going for a/m resistance.

>>58019327
Digital watches aren't going to be affected significantly by magnetism if they aren't solar or radio controlled I would imagine.

>>58019327
f-91w

>>58019942
For now I have just been wearing qartz watches. Don't have any digitals though (RIP Lange)
>>58019823
>>58019729
Great suggestions. I didn't know about the IWC. This will definitely make picking something harder down the road.

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>>58020082
Lego Batman watch

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yo where my seikoshills at

>>58020233
Wearing my SARX013 right now

>>58020233

Probably going to order an 035 next week.

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>>58020303
>>58020367
if only the crystal wasn't so garbage

at least stienhart can get that right

/wt/ I'm looking for a watch.

Diver. Unpainted flat bezel. Flat crystal. 36-40mm.

Anyone know watches that fit this description under 1500USD?

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>>58020233
pls rate watch

it was grand daddy's

n-no bully

>>58020663
Can't see shit cap'n

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>>58020233
SNKK71 reporting in.

>>58020437
what's wrong with the crystal? no AR coating?

What's /wt/'s opinion on Nixon?

>>58020477
By definition (ISO 6425) a diver will have at the very least:

"The presence of a unidirectional bezel with at least at every 5 minutes elapsed minute markings and a pre-select marker to mark a specific minute marking."

>>58020801
normie fashion watch garbage

>>58020811
could be a steel engraved bezel or marked another way

>>58013982
>a fake budget watch

I never got this... The fake has shit quality, the original has great quality and the original is about the same price or even cheaper than the fake. It's like buying fake paper clips made from literal paper that cost as much or more than real paper clips. You won't impress anyone and if anyone notice then they will question your sanity.

>>58020811
Yes, but he asked for flat & unpainted. Wouldn't having it engraved or imprinted by whatever means no longer make it flat?

>>58020920
>Yes, but he asked for flat & unpainted. Wouldn't having it engraved or imprinted by whatever means no longer make it flat?
no

>>58020780
flat and no coating as far as i can tell

>>58020931
Clearly I have failed to understand.

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>>58017379

You are wrong!!!

I had an IT guy come give a presentation to my office, and he was wearing a Rolex GMT Master II. I think it was a steel model, so not the new 6 digit ceramic, but the hand stack is the tell. For the life of me, I could not get a good enough look at it to tell if the hand stack was CHS or not. I mean I spent the entire time trying to figure it out, lol. Regardless it was a beatifull TT piece, looks just my TT TC sub in pic related, but a GMT.

>>58020663
Looks good, wear it in good health

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>>58013298
Even this cheap ass perlon is comfy as fuck
I'd say go for that

>>58013099
Alpha makes a better one for like 80 bucks

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>>58017379

The whole spotting reps in the wild is difficult. Gen owners always think they can but actually they can't. This is because they are not constantly looking at reps like we are and they think a Canal St rep is representative of the whole rep scene, therefore they usually think most reps are gen .
Our problem conversely is that we generally don't see enough gens and will see a gen with a slight anomaly , which is actually quite common, then we will believe it is a rep.
Plenty of gen subs about with non aligned rehauts , wrong magnification cyclops, poorly located SELs etc etc

Truth is some reps are so good it is near impossible to tell on the wrist

>>58021329
That looks pretty good, if the bracelet hadn't been such a bitch to put on mine I'd consider swapping to a perlon like that on occasion.

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>>58015546
Meme blue, now on perlon

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How'd I do /g/ boiz?

$45 burger bucks.

I realize it's not in great shape but I kinda like the worn look. Gives it character.

>>58021616
Looks like shit, I wouldn't have paid $20 for that.

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Not bad for 20 bucks
Theres a small scratch on the crystal and a scuff on the buckle
Gonna need a datejust now...

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>>58021683
Bezels pretty nicely fluted

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>>58021706
And it's even on a jubilee

>>58019078

Oh I know, I was just making a joke about how Canto the dim sum place was.

I've got Dunlop Winter Sports at the moment. I'm still wearing the KS Special today as I'm really enjoying the new leather strap I got for it.

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F-91w brigade, assemble!

>>58021755
ayyyy

>>58019078
>Going out with a chink
Enjoy not having any money for watches

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What are some unique dial colors that don't look like shit?

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>>58021788
Orange for divers, dark blue w/sunburst

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>>58021755

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I've been wearing this watch for years. I don't even recall where I got it at this point. It was heavily worn when I got it, and years later it's even more beaten up, but it's never been serviced and still keeps very good time.

The front glass/crystal(?) is all scratched to shit, but I still like it and wear it everyday.

I don't plan on replacing it, but I need a new strap badly soon.

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>>58021755
still counts

>>58021788
Emerald or forrest green.

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I'm absolutely in love with this 18 carat, rose gold TAG Heuer Carrera watch purchased from the beautiful city of Perth. Made with sapphire infused glass that only diamond can scratch, I've spoiled myself with this gorgeous timepiece. The calibre 16 movement has been crowned as the most successful automatic chronograph movement ever produced, completely handmade by man. It is also my very first day date watch and it will be interesting to see if it becomes an important feature that Will depend on over time. I hope you all enjoy this watch as much as I do.

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>>58022486
Didn't you mean to post this on /r/watches?

>>58022496
I assume he probably copy and pasted from there.

>>58015546
My daily's a vostok desert shield, an amphibia.

Strongly thinking about picking up a Bulova spaceview, one of the mid 60's movements, are they well/poorly regarded watches? Don't want to drop a few hundred bongistani tokens only to find out it'll never run accurately.

>>58022486
god i really hope i don't one day end up like this, i'd rather be shitbroke

>>58022496
Yes, I had posted it there some time ago, more negativity than this piece deserves. I trust you fine /g/entlemen have more discerning taste.

>>58022502
Yeah it's just pasta. As far as I'm aware this only exists on r/watches

How do you feel about pocket watches? Specifically the cheapo chinese kind, mechanical.

>>58022548
Go away.

>>58022502
Horry shit /r/watches is cancer. On the topic of Tag Heyerdahls though, does anyone else make a deployant like theirs that is infinitely adjustable in theory and doesn't depend on holes in the strap?

https://www.bernardwatch.com/item/TAG1026

I'd rather not spend ~$250 for a genuine Heyerdahl since I don't particularly enjoy the brand or plan to use it with one of their watches.

>>58022579
You get what you pay for with Chinese mechanisms.

Otherwise, personally I think you'll look a bit of a tool, but it really depends what circles you move in.

>>58022579
They are a more classy alternative to wrist watches. Just be careful not to mismatch with your fedora. Black fedora - gold pocket watch, any other color - silver pocket watch. Never use pocket watches when wearing a trilby, unless they are attached to your jeans or coat with a gold chain.

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My gf wants to get me a watch for Christmas and she's asking me for ideas since "i get too technical and don't like what she thinks is good." She's also poor, so what is the most long-lasting watch for under a hundred bucks that isn't a variation of the F-91W?

>>58022713
you can get the 5610 if you want digital or snk if you want mechanical analog or something else

>>58022763
Thanks!

>>58022763
>>58022767

it's hard to overstate how great the SNK series really is

>>58022713
vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok vostok

>>58022502
Ya, he did. That whole thread turned into poor fag autists defending the "high-end luxury brand" tag. It was hilarious.

>>58021345
>Our problem conversely is that we
What do you mean by 'we'? Do you make/sell reps for a living?

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>>58022713
>>58022782
You can be Steve Zissou

>>58021788
Anthracite

>>58013099
>has a nice T instead of the "I wanted to be a rolex but instead I actually suck cock" mercedes
respect

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where are the new octagonal amphibias, they said it would be done by the end of the year in like march

man fuck 2016

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>>58023435

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the stock resin strap is incredibly uncomfortable but this thing only accepts 18mm natos

does it look too ridiculous? I mean, its a REAL tool watch so maybe I shouldn't care, but maybe I'll get some adapter for 22mm straps some day, or just cut away some leather from 22mm a leather strap

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>>58023449

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>>58023454
on my wrist

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>>58023460

>>58023435
I love pulsometers.

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>>58023454

Yeah sorry, but it looks ludicrous. A NATO strap works best with a simple diver or military styled watch, like the old bulletproof Hamilton GI watch.

>>58012943
Stop listening to the haters. They're looking down their noses because they think connoisseurs by liking luxury mechanicals.

Skagen's a very good quartz brand. Haters call it a "fashion" watch because they go for a very modern look that most high end brands don't because they want to show off that they're expensive. Reliable movements, great modern design, at a reasonable price.

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>>58023462

That sport watch is too busy and bulky to look right with a NATO strap. You need something clean and simple.

Im no fan of the brands shown, but the styles are perfect for a NATO strap.

>>58023732
They're just shitty fossils. Being able to recognize that does not make someone a "hater."

>>58023751
How are they shit? They're perfectly fine quartz watches. The design's even better than most quartz.

>>58023771
their design philosophy is literally "this needs to look good to people who haven't seen many watches."

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>>58012943

I agree with the last poster, ignore the haters. My daughter gave me this watch a couple of years ago, and I've worn it a lot as a daily beater. The titanium case and mineral crystal are completely scratch free, and it still looks new. It has a solid Miyota quartz movement, and it keeps excellent time. One of things I like best about this watch is how slim the case is.

No, it's not a prized mechanical Swiss watch, but for what it is, it is well made, looks good, and is accurate. For a so called "fashion watch", you could do a lot worse!

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What's a good watch if you're somebody who fights a lot

>>58023872
looks like a cheap joke

>>58023751

Actually Skagen was bought by Fossil a few years back, but their build quality was better than the usual shit tier Fossil watch. Not sure if quality has suffered since the buyout, but the older Skagens weren't bad at all for a quartz movement watch!

>>58023454
You can get a wider 22/24mm two piece nato and notch it at the ends to fit.

>>58023958

Comments from classless neckbeards with zero taste mean less than nothing. It's a clean post modern design. Nothing wrong with it's looks, if you are looking for a simple low profile watch.

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Anybody own any Bremonts?

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Turned out decent. I'll definitely be buying more stingray to try again.

>>58023989
It's a design that screams "cheap."

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>>58024030

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>>58024043

>>58024043
>>58024030
>>58024051
groovy
I like it a lot

>>58024031

Yeah, whatever you say, fashion police fag boy!

>>58024066
>fashion police fag boy
sounds like the kind of person who would like the looks of a skagen.

>>58024051

The stitching could be cleaner, but for a first attempt, it looks good.

>>58024075

In other words, someone with more taste than you? Yes!

What's the matter, no rhinestones to go with your fag boy bling?

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>>58024075
This is more your style!

>>58024060

Thanks, bud.

>>58024084

Yeah, the beads deflected my stitching irons so the stitching went all wonky. I can see how it's easier to get a cleaner look when the beads are sanded down flat.

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>>58024106
>In other words, someone with more taste than you?
So you're saying 'fashion police fag boy' is a good thing now?

>rhinestones
Sounds like that's more in the wheelhouse of cheap, fashion watches. Like Skagen.

>>58024121
I'm not sure how you can't look at him and not understand that's part of Skagen's target market.

>>58024134
That's a woman's watch. Nice try fag boy. Actually, it would look good on your girly little wrist.

>>58024150
>That's a woman's watch
You powers of perception are impressive.

>>58024031
Yes, because you're looking at it from a luxury watch POV.

>no expensive watch brand does really modern designs like that therefore it's a pauper's watch

Not everyone appreciates watches the same way. A lot of people don't care whether or not it's mechanical, only whether or not it's aesthetic. Skagen does that pretty well.

>>58024165
>Yes, because you're looking at it from a luxury watch POV.
not really, more speaking from a quality watch perspective.


>>no expensive watch brand does really modern designs like that therefore it's a pauper's watch
You have no clue what you're talking about

>A lot of people don't care
They don't care if their watch is good or not. Which is why low-cost, low-quality fashion watch brands exist, like Skagen.

>>58024152

I'm not sure if you missed his point, but women like bling, non metrosexual men don't. Skagen's men's watches don't have the bling. They are just clean designs. You made no viable point posting a woman's watch. Lame!

>>58024221
>not really, more speaking from a quality watch perspective.

Which is what in your terms exactly? Accuracy? Quartz watches beat mechanicals at that.

>>58024224
>his point
as if not samefag

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>>58017379
You're literally the more autistic than the guy who buys fakes. I imagine a very overweight man a la comicbook guy trying to autisticly look down on a fake only to have a normie who completely outclasses him socially scoff and say who cares. Completely ruining any standing point he had.

Really, the only people who give a shit about fakes are the top 1% or the enthusiasts who scrape their pennies together to buy a used watch off Ebay. If you don't have 14 grand to buy a Rolex. You don't get to laugh at someone with a fake. You're admittedly more retarded than someone who buys a fake because you've wasted all your money on a used watch because you want to pretend your rich.

>>58024281

he fell for it guys

>>58024239
How does the quality of anything show?

But lets address your idiotic question:
>Accuracy? Quartz watches beat mechanical at that
So you've set up a false-dichotomy between shitty fashion quartz watches, and quality mechanical.

No such dichotomy exists. Your skagen, probably using something like a Miyota 2035, is generally going to be less accurate than a g-shock you can get for 38 dollars at target. Why is it less accurate? Because that's not part of their goal. Their goal is to pump out a bunch of fashion accessories of different colors and styles so people can pair them with their latest clothings. That's their business model. It's not a watch company that makes watches because they want to make more accurate, more durable, or any sort of innovative features. There is no drive to push watchmaking further in any sort of meaningful way, they just make accessories that happen to tell the time.

>>58024288
Remember how I made the point about the normie saying "Who cares?". You just did that, except to appeal to the opposite audience. Congratulations.

>>58024224

This whole thread has turned lame. No one cares what some basement dwelling asshat thinks about style or quality. Some Iike a simple clean designed affordable quartz watch, others have to prove something with a top tier mechanical Swiss watch that requires regular maintenance to keep them in top shape. The average Rolex or Qmega should be returned to the factory once every decade to keep them accurate and running properly. If your Seiko or Casio quartz watch dies, big deal, you got our money's worth, repair it or replace it.

If you personally like the watch, who gives a rat's ass what some armchair expert think?

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I want a 2 hand analog watch that will sync time to GPS or whatever and automatically set DST, but all the watches with these features are stupidly complicated like Citizen Eco-Drive Satellite Wave, I want a plain jane equivalent that just keeps the right time without lots of features and a simple Stainless Steel or Gold case with a black or white face

>>58024332
putting a GPS antenna in a watch is more complicated than you might think.

>>58024332
You wont get that without paying absolutely top dollar. Set the time yourself. It's really not that hard. Just look at a clock every couple fucking weeks and you'll save yourself hundreds of dollars.

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>>58017379
>this is the /wt/ copypasta

>>58024344
But they can do it, why can't they do it with a simply styled dress watch?

>>58024356

Yeah, I got one of those cheap Miyota quartz movement Citizen watches the "expert" maligned, and oh the horror, I have to reset twice a year (when daylight savings time changes). Otherwise, it's a perfectly accurate watch.

>>58024309
>Because that's not part of their goal.

Exactly. It's not Skagen's goal to have the accuracy of more accurate but bulky, plastic watches as much as it's not their goal to have the complexity of movements or the aesthetics of a mechanical watch.

They're perfectly designed, reliable and priced for what they are.

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>>58021788
Photo is by the courtesy of lawyer anon.

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>>58024385
For one, Seiko was only recently able to get a GPS watch down under 45mm. And dress watches tend not be be that huge.

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>>58024436
>tfw your capital is never represented on GMT watches

>>58024415
The bulkiness of a g-shock is to advance its durability, it's not needed for its accuracy.

Skagen's goal with movements is to get the cheapest shit possible, so they can push out more fashionable wristbands that happen to tell time.

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>>58024454
which capital

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>>58021788

I think it depends more on what you are planning to wear the watch with. For example, a forest green bezel might look great with a suit and a green tie; but not necessarily a tee shirt and shorts. I'm a big fan of black dial on stainless case for versatility; but for some reason this rust colored bezel just jumped out at me when it saw it in the case.

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>>58024464
Copenhagen

>>58024456
The "expert" has spoken people. Let it go, or this loser will keep posting.

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>>58024456
>The bulkiness of a g-shock is to advance its durability, it's not needed for its accuracy.
this

this is the actual "watch part" inside a certain g-shock

its just covered in a lot of plastic (+ glass for the screen) so it can take a hit

>>58024483
Literally, NO ONE Cares!

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>>58024495
I-I care

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>>58024480
Yeah.. well you've got stiff competition in that tz

>>58024482
Nineball's not bad. I've been on /wt/ long enough to say he gives good advice but is just an autist.

But the whole "quartz watches are poo-poo" maymay has got to stop.

>>58024356
I don't really care about the money, as long as its under like $10k

>>58017113

I wanted to get a leather strap but my brother is a giant stoner and would ruin it. Nato it is.

>>58022486
>18 carat, rose gold
Only the indices, lol. The rest is stainless steel.

Reddit really is a magnet for pleb scum.

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What watch is this /g/?

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Hey guys, I've had this watch for ages but the caseback is all kinds of fucked. Anyone able to ID it?

>>58021340
Ordinarily I'd counter that by pointing out that the Alpha is chink shit, but the Timex won't be much better.

>>58017163
>feel of superiority to the normie wearing a Hamilton Khaki
The actual autist who discusses Rolex with a Swatch salesman, while saying a Hamilton is the best deal there is? Of course I feel superior to him.
>feel of superiority to the salesman
No, I'm just saying the sales spiel was bullshit. I'm not judging the guy, he's just paid to tell that stuff.

>>58017274
it's a pretty good watch yeah

>>58018934
That was the reason I posted that blog post. I instantly thought "wait, i'm no expert but that's clearly bullshit."

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>>58021755

>>58024986
He's probably just trying to remember his training and getting confused. The rotor is a rotor, it's the oscillating weight that's fully circular instead of a half circle. The sistem51 has bidirectional winding, so you can call that "charges twice as fast," but really it's just "We finally caught up to Seiko. So we're not winding half as much as one of their watches anymore."

>>58022528
They are pretty well regarded as the tuning fork movement is pretty interesting and is the forerunner to quartz watches.

It will be a bitch to get serviced though.

>>58023491
As someone who regularly uses a watch to take a pulse, I don't.
Just measure a full minute. Anything else won't be precise enough, and certainly not measuring 30 pulsations.

>>58023048
That is a neat little feature.

>>58024051
>>58024043
>>58024030
that looks good. it does look a little rough, especially the stitching, the keeper and the holes. But overall that's nice.
good job anon

>>58024495
Shut the fuck up, tons of people care.

>>58024522
That's absolutely not what he's saying though. The reason Skagen are shit isn't their choice of movement.

>>58024965
uh

the timex is a quartz

it is going to be more reliable and accurate than a cheap chink mechanical

>>58020663
Looks like a 7A48 cal , overall a pretty nice to have watch.

>>58023093
They already did have a production run of the new 670 case.

>>58025275
They are made in the Mexico of asia, without even using Miyota or SII movements.

>>58025049
That must have been it, because he was comparing it to the movement in "the previous model" I have no idea what it is and didn't even know Swatch had mechanical watches before the Sistem51, but it must have been something with unidirectional winding.

As for the rotor/oscillating mass confusion, that's actually my bad: we were having this conversation in French, and I am no expert in watches as I said.

>>58024323
>I was just pretending to be retarded

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>>58025413
Since I got a job and disposable income I could easily buy a nice watch but I just love my F91-W so much.

I just wish they had a black metallic version of it.

>>58025434
yeah I'm not THAT poor either,it isn't my only watch, even

but particularly with a NATO, it is so comfortable and convenient, hard to beat for an everyday beater

I'd love a stainless steel version w/ slightly upgraded functions

>>58023876
attach a gshock to your katana

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>>58021755

>>58021982
> F-84W on an NATO

Only on /wt/

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>>58017047
Did any part of the ad mention that the fork and escape wheel were made of plastic?

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Is this a good watch /wt/? Can anyone tell me more about this, really liked its design. Generally how much do these go for?

>>58026425
Is that bad?

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>>58026462

>>58026425
no
neither the fact that it's unservicable, or that the laser adjustment means you can't regulate it after the fact

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Is SARX041 better build than a SARB065? I can get them brand new for about the same price

>>58026433
No it isn't.

It's a franken Molnija 3602 in a chink made steel case and a fake chink made dial.

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I have the f-91 as well. good watch, i also have the gw7900 which i bought cuz it has a bunch of cool stuff packed into it. I just bought the gshock ga700, just came out. It's the coolest watch from gshock I've seen yet. It's analog with a digital second hand. Very neat feature. The only thing I'm looking forward to is eventually getting a gravity master with the 24 hour dial and 60 minute dial. so it looks like the friggin solar system on your wrist. I'm also considering the ga110 because of the 1/1000 second timing feature. Friggin awesome for wear. Here's the ga700 thats coming in the mail sometime next month.

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>>58026944
Is there any difference between this one and the previous one? I noticed this one sold for £20 more than the previous one.

Also, why would anyone build a franken and redial a relatively cheap watch/unknown watch brand?

>>58026462
The pallet fork is usually jeweled. As for the required precision of an escape wheel, let's just say that any sort of fault, speck of dirt or under/over oiling on the teeth of a common, steel escape wheel shows as a big fat error every fifteen steps on a timegrapher.

>>58027131
>Is there any difference between this one and the previous one? I noticed this one sold for £20 more than the previous one.

Well, this one is a bit different. Both dials are fake, but in this one they welded lugs onto an original case. I forgot to mention that the handset on the first one had white paint while here it has hand applied lume and the lumedots are badly hand applied here.

>Also, why would anyone build a franken and redial a relatively cheap watch/unknown watch brand?
Simple really, they are cheap as dogshit in the Ukraine and plentiful. So the xoxols conceived a very good ploy to get people to buy this shit.

Print something interesting on the dial, Ala Luftwaffe/USSR/Scout/Red army so forth, and suddenly it becomes much more interesting and attracts more clueless retards to purchase it. The low price is also a big attraction, yet they are getting a solid profit out of it.

>>58026687

I saw a SARX041 in person recently and that dial is fucking SPECTACULAR in person. Also, just for having sapphire rather than mineral crystal it's better than the 065.

>He's right you know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iViv7gLEueQ&t=248s

>>58026687
Yeah, it's supposed to be absolutely stunning.

Although you should check out the review done by TGV: it has some really disappointing traits.

Also where can you get them at the same price??

>>58027455
>>58027535
Thanks, sarx it is then. I live in a 3rd world shithole and the sarx is only $20 more than the sarb for some reason, and the sarb is always sold out.

>>58027640
You should really see the TGV vid before you buy it.

There are some really annoying stuff with the SARX. You might not care, but better safe than sorry.

>>58027680
Stop shilling your channel TGV.

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So how would you rank them by refinement of taste? Me:
/wt/ > WUS > ArchieLuxury > TGV > r/watches > /fa/ > aBlogtoWatch

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>>58027526
> get a fucking rolex harry, or an omega speedmaster/omega sports watch harry
> real men who fuck bitches wear mechanical swiss watches harry
> and preferably one that doesn't use an eta machine let me give you the fuckin drum, harry

i dont understand this, archie constantly recommends "man on the fuckin moon", while simultaneously saying eta is shit

is the speedmaster not an eta based watch? why does he recommend it if he hates eta?

>>58027772
Because he's a dumb began who buys watches beyond his means.

>>58027813
*bogan

>>58027640
Where do u live?

>>58024420
I don't get why this watch is such a big deal. I emailed the Concierge and it was only about 1000$ us.

>>58027772
It's ETA-based but it's a high grade, modified ETA, like what Breitling does with a lot of their movements. Generally when he screams about "ETA dogshit" he's talking about the unmodified base ETAs that companies drop into their watches and have no discernable difference between every other midrange garbage watch.

>>58027764
exactly this, will someone please explain to me what the three dial are in the face of the watch?

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>>58027929
i see,

are all omegas with eta based movements modified and high grade? or pretty much just the speedmaster

>>58027772
Archie is satire, you aren't supposed to take him seriously you moron.

>>58028019
it's a chronograph.
the two big hands in the center tell the normal hours and minutes. the subdial dial at the bottom tells the running seconds.
the other hands are chronograh hands. they start when you push the 2 o'clock pusher and stop when you press it again. they reset to 0 when you press the 4 o'clock pusher.
the chrono seconds is the thin hand in the center. the subdial on the right is chrono minutes, the one on the left is chrono seconds.

>>58027918
I'll just give you some clues. It's the shittiest country in SEA and it's going to be destroyed by retarded sandniggers soon.

>>58028073
>the one on the left is chrono seconds.
it's hours obviously.

>>58028080
Cambodia?

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>>58028073
simple enough, might end up buying the ga110 early next year.

>>58027772
I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.

>>58028122
Indonesia.

>>58028051

I know the Speedmaster line and (I think) the Seamaster line use high grade, modified ETAs, but I have no idea on shit like the Constellation or their other lineup as I'm not a huge Omega fan.

>>58027772
>>58027813
>>58027929
>>58028054
>>58028145

ITT: Horological plebs who don't even know why the MOTFM wouldn't be covered by an anti-ETA screed.

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>>58028297

well yeah, obviously i don't, hence the reason I posted the question "why does he recommend it if he hates eta"

>>58028297
NASA is literally saving the Speedmaster Professional by not giving a fuck about it.

Once NASA decides to evaluate new co-axial Omegas for EVA use the Speedy Pro will be ogre.

>>58028332

Look up "Lemania" and do a little reading.

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>>58021741
Is the KS Special still keeping perfect time? My 5216 was doing about +2 for the longest fucking time and then started drifiting.

>>58021777
Nah mate, total sweetheart and lower maintenance than any white girl I've ever met, so still plenty of money for watches. But I feel like the collection has grown too large anyways, I need to start paring it back. I have pieces I haven't worn in 2 months. And I haven't seen anything I really covet since I came across my 7018.

>>58024415
My watchmaker hates Skagens. They're known to be unreliable pieces of shit- we're talking failure rates of 15% or more before they're even fucking sold. Don't be fooled, please.

>>58026687
I take back what I said about not buying more watches. Although with the 6R15 in my SARB017 giving me so much trouble, I'm wary of buying another just yet.

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>>58028494
>6r15
>trouble


wtf

whats the problem with it

i was about to buy something with that movement

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>>58028494

Once it has a couple days on the wrist to warm up my 52KS Special still runs ~+0s/d on average.

How much is yours drifting? Is it drifting at a consistent rate?

>>58028477
When is the last time Omega used the 861 movement in a Speedmaster?

>>58028477

ok so from what i can tell here it says they use a modified lemania 1873 movement aka omega 861

so is it because they were using the lemania movement before lemania was acquired by swatch? if so that doesn't really explain anything to me, instead of using one companies movement they're using another.

>>58021177
TC subs are easy to spot, I just turn the crown, or look at the reflection of the crystal. They are good, but they are not close to the real thing once you have them side by side irl. I have never had anyone with the real piece deny me trying it on and testing their watch. Of course this requires social engineering to some point but that is easy to perform.

>>58021345
It is not, I frequent rep boards and shops in my past time quite often and do image analysis of them sometimes, especially the better ones. I am that obsessed with watches.

>>58024281
I am actually quite thin my friend, and my vision is 2020 and my colorvision scores perfectly also. I take autism as an compliment. And no person wearing a fake can outclass someone who is wearing the real piece my friend. And buying used is fine I would say, it means you understand the value of money and how luxury watches monetary value wither quite fast.

>>58024030
>>58024043
>>58024051
good job anon!
the fact that you made it yourself makes it even cooler

>>58024051
Not far from perfect. Can you send me one as a christmas gift? :3

>>58024436
asstron

>>58028610
>>58028689

The current Speedmaster Professional uses a more decorated and very slightly modified version of that same Lemania 861 movement.

For the first thing, Lemania was one of the greatest mechanical chronograph designers and producers of all time, their chronograph movements were used by other companies due to their quality and not as a cost saving measure.

For the second thing, Omega had been using Lemania chronograph movements in their Speedmaster chronographs since the very first model. They did not switch to using mass produced ETA drop-in movements later as a cost saving measure. That Omega and Lemania were both ultimately acquired by the Swatch is a coincidence unrelated to why the MOTFM uses the Lemania 861 derived movement it does.

This is in contrast to the rest of the Omega line-up, which went from using Omega's excellent in-house designed and manufactured movements prior to its acquisition by Swatch to using generic or even worse pointlessly tarted up ETA movements and marketing to try and pleb-catch people who wouldn't realize how egregiously they were being ripped off.

Anybody else completely turned off by tiny 20mm lug width and straps?

>>58024344
>putting a GPS antenna in a watch is more complicated than you might think.
Please explain how?

And feel free to go into details, this used to be things I worked on.

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>>58028972

thank you

>>58028553
>>58028494
How are you guys measuring accuracy of your mechanics so precisely? Is there a special machines for that or what?

>>58029026
you look at the time on the watch and compare it to the time on a phone or computer that's updated by a good source

>>58029026
This >>58029036 over the course of 6, 12 or 24 hours, or what I did: look up some guides on the Internet and build your own timegrapher. Basically a piezo mic and a preamp plugged into a PCs line-in socket.

>>58028972
Even knowing this, I'd still feel ripped off buying a Speedmaster simply because of how hard Omega is milking the Speedmaster line with all those stupid variants.

It's a shit brand, pure and simple. And this is coming from someone who likes the look of the Speedmaster a lot.

>>58029089

Sure, fair enough, but that doesn't make the MOTFM any less defensible on its intrinsic merits.

I kind of feel like tarring the MOTFM because of how I feel about the rest of Omega's marketing driven pleb catching range is getting close to committing the modern watchmaking sin of valuing marketing copy and "prestige" over the intrinsic value of a watch based on its actual design, manufacturing and historical merits.

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do you guys like my watch?

>>58029089
>>58029207

I don't know why more manufacturers don't follow the Rolex model and have a solid, core line over an extended period of time, instead of an endless series of "special editions" and variants that fuck over resale value and ironically collectability.

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>>58029241