/wt/ watch thread - pissing off poorfags edition

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>he doesn't wear an F91

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>>58029958
>This guy who doesn't know shit about watches makes this thread

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>>58030028

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Who /wristweight/ here?

>caring about watches in a world where you can't move 5 inches without running into a screen with the time embedded on it.

Next thing you know /g/ will have general fire starting threads where they laugh at the poorfags for not burning virgin south american teak wood or some shit.

I love the clean and minimal design of field watch, yet I despise minimalist watches like Skagen or Daniel Wellington.

I think those are for disgusting faggots.

>>58030120
agree

>mfw plebs spend over $350 on a watch
>mfw i have no face

>tfw too intelligent to spend over $350 on a watch
>tfw your internet friends fell for marketing gimmicks
>tfw they actually think material things made them more interesting individuals
>tfw they perceive their self-worth by the value of their material things
>tfw some people have certain anatomical deformities, such as having nine balls
>tfw although these people have ridiculous amounts of money to waste, you realize you're more financially competent than them
>tfw plebs put money into a watch to yield diminishing returns
>tfw they would rather put a few grand into a wrist watch which will instantly depreciate rather than a CD or other investment
>tfw they would rather own a rolex than put a few thousand into a roth or 401

>>58030144
>I love the clean and minimal design of field watch, yet I despise minimalist watches like Skagen or Daniel Wellington.

Me too anon. I love the Tudor Ranger or an original Rolex Explorer for how clean and understated they are (without being minimalist hipster dogshit). If you put it on a leather strap they pass as a dress watch, and on most natos and metal bracelets it will bring out the sportiness.

>>58030190
>>tfw they would rather own a rolex than put a few thousand into a roth or 401
Who wouldn't?

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>>58030190
>>58030217
>when you're disappointed with your son due to having thought him to make sound financial decisions yet he continually fails to do so
>he also doesn't wear an F91

>>58030144
>Skagen or Daniel Wellington
Those don't have any design behind them.

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>>58030190
>tfw they would rather own a rolex than put a few thousand into a roth or 401
This is the only thing I'm really going to directly address in your little rant. Spend money the way you want it so long as it's within your means. A 401k would definitely be more helpful in the future, but if you like watches then spend it on watches. I'm about to drop $1000 on another rifle that I sure as hell don't need and will likely depreciate based on the current state of the firearms market, but it's going to be something I enjoy using and having so fuck putting a grand in my 401k and fuck anybody who doesn't like that.

>>58030241
TAUGHT FUCK

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>>58030252
>when dad dies and he leaves no inheritance nor a means to provide for his family posthumously due to having blown it all on watches he didn't need

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>20mm is too small

>>58030325
>Why didn't my father follow outdated procedures of wealth generation and storage to uplift those who chose not to work for it?
I've got excellent heath and life insurance in the event anything does go wrong. If I wasted my life putting money in a bank so that others can have an easy life then I'm a sucker. If they want a comfortable life, they can work for it themselves.

>>58030390
I will concede to you on this one

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Now i guess it's time to get the thread back in line.

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>>58029958
>Paying 30k for a watch
Get back on the train, tard

>>58030862
That date window, indices and hands are insane quality. What Seiko model range would be today's equivalent of that watch? Some SAR family or only the Grand Seiko?

I would think less of anyone who spent that much money on a watch. I would respect you less and think less of you, I would question your financial decisions and suspect your involvement in some sort of criminal activity.

>>58029621

I can't remember if you had that 5216 serviced?

If you did, the next thing to check would be to see if it runs -15s/d consistently over several days or if the deviation varies.

If the deviation is consistent and the movement has been serviced, the regulation may just need to be adjusted.

>>58029958
>this bait again
>essential gets shit on by salty poorfag
>doesn't acknowledge that nomos exists which all have original movements.
>Doesn't make a mention that the vintage market is there at all price ranges.

>>58030928
Unsure.

The indices have some insane Seiko semi brushed, semi polished, triple sided finish. And the movement is chronometer grade/capable.

Bracelet quality is poor but so are most bracelets from the era.

Guess somewhere along the Brightz line, as the 5606 val LMs can be considered SAR quality.

>>58029958
No mention of a Breitling Emergency II. Pfft, you're all poorfags who can't afford to leave the house.

What's a nice, simple, good watch in the $100-200 range?

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7018 somehow managed to fix itself. Whereas the power reserve before was about 5 hours, it now seems to be around 36.

Seiko was first to market with both th self-winding chronograph as well as the self-repairing one, apparently. Nippon Strong, folded 1000 times etc.

>>58031612
Orient Bambino

>>58030982
Yeah, the 5216 was serviced by the Canadafags' watchmaker of choice. Went from like -2 minutes / day to basically nothing. Ran beautifully for a few months then began drifting. I may take it back in the next time I visit Toronto, but I would need to combine it with some other repair. No way I'm driving 2 hours from London for something that's doing -15s.

>>58031937

See if you can find a watch repairer locally who has a degausser to exclude that possibility first.

Then you can learn to regulate it yourself, if you are so inclined. A 52xx isn't that hard to do since it has a screw type micro-adjuster, just need a case back opener, a miniature screwdriver, a loupe, and some care not to get any debris into the case while open.

I do all my own regulations, I even bought a time grapher so I could do beat error as well as rate. That's how I got my 52xxs running so close to dead on.

>>58030325
You're assuming I want children. The only person who needs to worry is my spouse since statistically she'll outlive me 5 years, and I think she'll be able to manage.

It is soon 50 years since the first Moon landing.

And Omega has not been able to come up with anything, ANYTHING innovative in the Speedmaster range. What to do for the anniversary??

Your mission then, Mr. Anon, is to design a proper 50 year anniversary Moon watch that properly honors the achievement of a bygone era with the means of today. Your old Omega will self destruct in 10 seconds.

Good luck, anon.

https://youtu.be/iq-YeD4L-bg

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>>58032076
There are a few local people but unfortunately the good ones seem to be Swissfags who act as if working on Seikos is below them. Still, should be able to do the degausser thing pretty easy.

I'm comfortable opening casebacks and all, done it to my 44KS a few times to try and rejig the accuracy, thing looks dead simple to work on. If the 5216 is also straightforward then I may attempt it at some point. I can control most debris except for dust.

>>58032282
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>>58032282

This one is dead easy. Remake the original, including a highly decorated 321 movement.

>>58032783

Exactly.

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>500 on long island watch
>still can't afford
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>58030342
Your hand will fall off because there's no blood going to it.

>>58033240

Thanks, bud.

>>58033178
Ugly.

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>>58032681

Even easier than a 44KS since it's a screw type micro-adjuster.

Just need the correct size of screwdriver for it.

>>58033375
agreed.

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>>58032971
What? No new functionality?

Personally I find the buttons at 2 and 4 o'clock a bit untidy, personally I find the Porsche design tidier.

Also, shouldn't a Moon watch indicate, well, Earth-phase?

>>58033467

You think Swatch is going to design a new movement from scratch just for one special edition Omega? A decorated 321 is the best you are going to do, and Omega won't even do THAT because of how remaking the 321 would embarrass the 861.

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>>58033375
>>58033460
fuck off

>>58033645
It really is.

>>58033645
he's( >>58033691 ) right

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What are the rarest Seiko models out there?

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>>58033645
>rose gold
>2 tone
>not ugly

>>58033645
too busy and rose gold is pig disgusting, even if it were solid.

Retrograde is nifty and all but they are right, it's ugly af

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>>58030112

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>>58033974

>>58033974
VFA branded Grand Seiko's, mostly for price and very limited availabilty
6159-7001 grandfather MM
6159-7010 grandfather tuna
4520/4580 Neuchatel ground zero marked GS's
Seiko Astron (original 1969 model), ground zero mk.2
5718-8000T chronograph

Just a few.

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>>58033502
Well, since you ask: yes I think they should. In fact it is about time for some new functionality rather than yet another colour scheme or fancy shaped hands. The Alaska is probably inspired by Blackbird.

>>58030862
what a cool bracelet

>>58031580
that's an incredibly niche watch. if you would ever want one, you wouldn't need to learn about it on 4chan.

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>>58033691
>>58033787
>>58034358
>>58034532
suit yourselves boyos

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>>58034358
The fuck you tryna say about rose gold, huh punk.

>>58036014
that one would be so good if not for a few details. Sun and Moon smacks of "too cheap to make/buy a real moonphase", and there is no excuse for a date aperture that shows more than one number

>>58035011
that dial looks so angry xDDD angriest face i've seen on a watch

>>58036191
He's probably trying to say it looks like shit, because it does.

>>58036383
Well that's just like your opinion man. Nothing wrong with rose gold though. I am definitely not a fan of the dial on those orients though. it's kind of like they took all the wrong queues from those snazzy asymmetrical German watches.

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>>58034821

My vote goes 100% to the Astronomical Observatory Chronometers.

The watch that ended the Swiss chronometer trials when Daini Seikosha BTFO the entire Swiss watchmaking industry by taking the top 6 places awarded to mechanicals at the Concors de Geneve.

Daini Seikosha then added insult to injury by getting the Neuchatel Astronomical Observatory to test and certify a bunch of Grand Seiko 4520s, which it then sold to the public.

Owning one of these is literally owning the death knell of Swiss watchmaking superiority.

>>58036473
there's no excuse for wearing any gold that isn't solid.

Rose gold doesn't look good to me but I think it fits darker skin okay. I feel I'm too pale to even wear yellow gold. If I do its going to be solid and it will be a 36mm watch on a leather band, not a bracelet.

maybe my wedding band but I'm more partial to white gold for that, or some other metal

>>58036549
how much would that be

>>58036570
You might say the price is ... astronomical

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>>58036579
srsly tho how much

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anyone else occasionally sort of pissed at how shitty quartz watches tend to be? unless they're the cheapest possible beaters / utilitarian digital pieces, that is (nothing wrong with <$50 Casios, pro treks, g-shocks etc)

give me a quartz version of some of these nice Orients and maybe make it a few mm smaller (<38mm preferred) and it'll be my ideal watch, I'll fucking buy two in different colors. I don't even care if it costs almost the same as the mechanical version, as long as the movement is a reliable one

and yeah there are good-looking Casios and Citizens, but they tend to be just a little bit less good than many mechanical Orients or even Seikos

>>58029958
poorfag here
will suck dick for a rolex

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>>58036648
if you are looking for a less busy watch, I'm not sure if zeppelin does one in quartz

>>58036806
He's talking quality.

There's a quality gap in quartz watches. You have something like a 40 dollar g-shock, which casio makes to be one of the best watches they can for 40 dollars. Then you have something like a Grand Seiko quartz, which Seiko is making to be one of the best things you could get at that price. And nearly everything in between those two prices is complete trash marketed at prices that aren't even close to being justified by their quality.

Why isn't the filter for watch reviews on Worn and Wound working? I've tried Firefox and Chromium.

>>58036858
isn't there meant to be a nice citizen that has a quality build and quartz movement for a few hundred dollars?

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>>58036566
there is too much autism on /g/

>>58036570

I just spent a couple of minutes looking and I can't even find a record of an online transaction for one.

Wow.

>>58037070
I'm just expressing my opinions, if you want to wear gold tone that is your prerogative.

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Did he ruin the Panerai?

>>58036920
There may be a couple reasonably pieces in the gap (I did say nearly) but they would be tiny islands on a water world. That being said, I'm not really sure which what you're referring to.

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Best way to get this band off? I've read about using fishing line or dental floss, but I'm not able to feel any tugging with the floss.

Anyone have any tips?

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>>58037590

>>58037590
a relatively sharp knife (no butter) would probably work if you're not willing to wait for a spring bar tool

>>58037601
I'm still waiting for my order to come in, but this snow is slowing everything down.

I'm looking at it, but it looks like there isn't enough space for it to fit. It's kind of stiff. I don't want to force it, might just end up sliding off into god knows where.

I guess I'll try it when the tool gets here.

>>58037611
The plan was to use a spring bar tool, but the shipment ended up delayed.

It doesn't look like there'd be enough space for the tool. I'll try the knife, but I'll probably hurt myself.

>>58037641
It'll work. It looks like it'll fit best if you go in parallel with the lug.

>>58037641
With straps you have to kind shove the leather out of the way to get to the spring bar.

>>58037668
>>58037669
Alright, thanks for the tips. I'm probably just being a little bitch. I'll try the knife, but if it doesn't go well I'll just wait for my tool to come in.

>>58037692
You might do more damage with a knife. If you're really in a hurry, take it to any jeweler, and they'll pop it off for you for free.

>>58037535
Can't ruin something that was always shit

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How does /g/ feel about the Monaco?

>>58037692
I would def wait for the spring bar tool. What's wrong with your strap now?

>>58037692
I found it easier to use a 1.something mm flathead. Seemed that my cheap springbar tool a little too thick to grab the shoulder of the springbar.

>>58037798
On the left you have a classic chronograph, on the right dogshit.

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Got a new strap for my speedy

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>>58038037
It's hard to see in the pictures. But it's an OD green. I tried to filter the color in better, but it looks like shitty instagram filters.

>>58038035
The indices look better on the new one desu

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>>58037706
Yeah, I'm in no rush. Just kinda wanted to see what it'd look like on a NATO.

>>58037817
Currently waiting for a darker brown leather strap to ship. Current strap is a bit too light for me, it doesn't look too bad but my sis made fun of the strap. What would you guys recommend?

>>58038010
Yeah I'll start looking for some random tools around the house.

>>58038048
>>>/reddit/

How much should I pay for the sarb035? Price seems to fluctuate.

>>58029958
>no smartwatches
kys

>>58039014

I don't think "smartwatches" count as watches and only fags buy them.

>>58038708
>>>>/reddit/

>>>/reddit/

>>58036566
>rose gold can't be solid gold
What the fuck are you even saying?

>>58037798
Pretty damn cool vintage watches. I'd rather have an Autavia myself.

>>58037798
Good looks, but extremely overrated and overmarketed due to the Steve McQueen connection, it's one of TAG's main plebcatchers. There were some better-looking Heuers imo anyway, the Montreal, the Autavias, the Silverstones, the Monzas, Carreras etc. all had beautiful examples.

Also:
>dat noticeable decrease in detail and quality between the old and new Monaco.

>>58037641
>I'm looking at it, but it looks like there isn't enough space for it to fit. It's kind of stiff. I don't want to force it, might just end up sliding off into god knows where.
lewd :3

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What are some durable, low-profile, very accurate (and for long periods of time), vintage watches that are just unique enough to be interesting but cheap enough to where I won't cry if it gets stolen because I live in a shit 3rd world country (I'm white tho, don't worry. I moved here for work)

>>58040110

Well it's not cheap but I would say an old Explorer I would be good because no one will have any idea what the fuck it is and it looks nothing like a Rolex should look like according to normies so I would go with that.

Alternatively if you're willing to forgo the high accuracy thing you could get a Zodiac Sea Wolf

>>58040110
50's Soviet watches, once you get it serviced. A lot of commie movements at that time had Breguet overcoils for some reason.

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Opinions on this watch face and band colour?
I'll be buying a nylon strap too. Grey and black probably.

>>58040193
It looks very beautiful anon. Cream is a patrician's color.

>>58040110
penis quartz

>>58040193
TICK
TOCK

>>58038254
>my sis made fun of the strap. What would you guys recommend?
Give her a fucking kick in the cunt.

>>58040193

TICK

it's good for poorfags, just leave it somewhere other than your room if you want to go to bed

>>58038915

I see a few on ebay for $285. Honestly that's a pretty damn good price and at $285 I may bend up grabbing one in the near future.

>>58040110
56x movement Seamasters. 52xx movement King Seikos.

>>58031580
>advanced technology
>2-3 year battery life
>no solar power


yet somehow eco drives and tough solars also exist for a fraction of the price.

>>58031612
g shocks

>>58039014
evolving market. not really worth talkin about.

>>58038254
i dont want to be a downer or anything, but leather straps on an eco drive isnt really a good idea if you tend to leave it in the sun to charge. this wears out the leather very fast.
That being said, I do have two eco-drives on leather myself. but i try to keep them away from the sun as much as possible.

but yeah. use a knife, a sharp one to pry back the springbar. any knife from a multi-tool set is my usual goto instrument.

>>58040996
the point of the breitling emergency isn't long battery life, it's the emitter

>>58040110
cant say shit about vintage.

but seiko 5s are great entry level mechanicals for sub 100.

>>58041027
point taken.
on that note, know any watches that come with an inbuilt geiger counter and/or solar power and tritium tubing?

>>58041024
They use any kind of light to charge including artificial light. There's no need to leave them in sunlight to charge.

Hello /wt/, I'm looking for a watch to buy my father. The thing is I can't afford to buy him a $1000 watch, he buys those for himself. But I would still like to buy him something stylish and good in the up to $300 range that he can wear to formal occasions and perhaps work.

I'm trying to decide between Erroyl E30 Heritage, Orient Bambino (v2, 3 or 4), Kent Wang Bauhaus v3 or the Seagull 1963.

I know the Seagull 1963 is nearly $400, but it looks so damn cool. So I guess for the right (read: damn cool looking) watch I could stretch my budget.

>>58041096
First tell us what watches he currently owns. Don't want to get him redundant watches.

>>58041096
SARB033/35/65.

>>58041096
what does he have already?

i personally choose watches depending on what niche i need.

i have:
1 for formal
2 for casual/weekends
2 for work
1 for water activities
2 for hiking and other sporting activities

also does he care about digital/analogue?
or functionality?
or changing of the batteries/maintainence? because automatics, while not needing batteries, do require maintenance every now and then

When does technology get so ancient that its not longer considered technology? Are we gonna have /steam engine/ threads or /pointy rock/ threads on /g/ as well? Having a watch tread is just stupid. People dont use watches anymore, everybody has a phone and you check the time on your phone.

If i see a guy with a watch I immediately know he is a poser who is trying to display wealth he doesn't have.

>>58041096
>something stylish and good in the up to $300 range
Seiko SARB. Incredibly versatile watches, well made, handsome. Probably the SARB035 for something a bit more formal, because of the cream dial.
On a bracelet, it's wearable every day. On a nice leather strap, it's nicely dressed up.
An Orient Bambino works as well. Could most likely be had for a little cheaper than a SARB.
A Seagull 1963 would never work in formal occasions.

>>58041152
first paragraph 6/10, second paragraph 4/10

>>58041152
If you don't see how a watch can be useful, you either never leave the house or are a kid who doesn't have any obligations.
>People dont use watches anymore
I'm going to go with you never leaving the house.

>>58041152
(you)

>>58041117
>>58041130
Well, I don't know which watches he owns and I can't check cause I'm not in the same country as him at the moment. I've messaged my mother to ask/see what watch he is wearing right now.

But I can tell you he doesn't like digital watches, he doesn't mind maintenance or winding watches.

>>58041152
Joke's on you my workplace bans pulling out your phone.

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Got pic related today. It's a 16570 Explorer II from 1990. It's in really nice condition overall and the tritium lume has a very slight off-white patina which I like.

One thing I noticed, but could find zero information on, is why the bases of the hand where the lume is has a slight almost green coloration to it. It's barely noticable on the minute hand but it's quite big on the hour hand. Provided it's not something I should be worried about I don't care as the watch is a beauty and it's approaching 30 years old but if anyone had any insight it would be appreciated.

Also, how did I do considering I paid $4000?

>>58041222
OK, she wasn't too much help. All she said was 'Oris'.

I checked on their website to see if I can find the watch he wears the most from memory and I think it is the Oris Aquis. I don't know what other watches he owns and I can't ask him so as not to betray my intentions.

Safe to say I can't afford to buy him an Oris watch.

>>58041096
You can try get lucky with some vintage omega bids on ebay. But it may not ship in time for xmas.

>>58041222
>>58041309

thats gonna be tough then.

odds are you're really only going to be able to afford a japanese mechanical movement. most of those watches you listed are using the miyota movement, which is from citizen, so at least its somewhat reliable.
I'd suggest going with the more mainstream companies though.
orient is reliable
seagull is not very well known
erroyl is up and coming, and there's a hundred other companies like that who just package japanese movements with whatever they think the target audience wants and leaves it at that.

I'd say, for that price range stick with:
orient
seiko
citizen (i personally like eco drives for the low maintenance, but idk about their in house automatics

seiko divers are quite good as daily beaters, and maintenance would be cheapish given their widespread availability.
same goes for orient to a degree.

id be wary of buying something that looks like a dress watch if you want it in an automatic. at that price range it would be difficult to find one from a reputable or well known manufacturer.

>>58041297
firstly, tritium is a gas. it does not come in "lume" form. but rather its stored in tubes. the radiation given off is thrown onto phosphorescent material covering the outer surface of the tube subsequently emitting light.

if the bases have that coloration its possible that the phosphor is on the bottom, or it may just be an effect of the light.
but honestly, since tritium has a half life of approximately 10 years or so, I'd think about going to a watch place and getting the tubes replaced regardless, since if the watch is nearly 30 then its only at 1/4th of the original lume glow.

as for the radiation i wouldnt be worried. even if tritium tubes crack, the gas dissolves fast into the atmosphere such that you wouldnt really breathe it in unless you tried. even then its hard to get radiation poisoning from it.

>>58029958
What's the best looking analog+digital watch?

It should be under $80 pls.

>>58041381
>but honestly, since tritium has a half life of approximately 10 years or so, I'd think about going to a watch place and getting the tubes replaced regardless, since if the watch is nearly 30 then its only at 1/4th of the original lume glow.

I don't mind that my new watch won't glow, my other watch is a Timex and I never use it's backlight feature. Mostly I was just curious what would make it have peculiar colors at the base of the hands, articularly if it would be something worrisome like a sign of moisture in the case or something.

>>58041096
I'd go for the SeaGull if he buys his own luxury watches anyway.

The 1963 is an interesting and unique piece; the Seiko SARBs are more like "what you should buy if you need a $300 or so all around good watch". If I understood you correctly, he doesn't need that, but might appreciate something interesting.

>>58041162
>A Seagull 1963 would never work in formal occasions.
To be fair, the 38mm version would be better than 80% of what you see people wear with their suits. People don't generally have separate dress watches, unless they're watch enthusiasts, so most people just have whatever, possibly huge, sports watch they normally wear.
But yeah, it isn't ideal; still, plenty good enough.

lads i won a smartwatch in a contest, specifically a "fossil q smartwatch" does anyone here have it, if so, how is it?

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>>58029958
What version of this watch looks the best?

I really like how the watch looks simple and I love it already but I'm really confused on what style to pick. It costs $54 and it is well under my price range too.

Also I'll be using it daily.

>>58041520
>lads i won a smartwatch in a contest, specifically a "fossil q smartwatch" does anyone here have it, if so, how is it?

The working man's Tag Heuer.

>>58041547

2

The black dial looks poor, the metal bracelet and ugly and doesn't have proper end links, and the light brown strap doesn't match well with the white dial.

>>58041511
>>58041381
Shit advice

>>58041381
Well yeah, I did a bit of research and there seems to be consensus that the Miyata 9015 movement is reliable.

Is there a reason to to go with an up and coming brand like Erroyl? Other than lack of recognition?

>>58041511
Well, he was born a few years before 1963 so I was thinking he might enjoy a 'vintage' looking watch for dress/business occasions.

So I guess it's between the Orient Bambino and the Seagull. As you said, 1963 is interesting and unique looking. I just wish there wasn't a stigma surrounding Chinese manufacture.

Thanks for your help.

>>58041450
idk what it would be, but its not a radiation leak if thats what you're worried about.

>>58041520
>implying anybody on here would stoop so low to buy a smartwatch let alone a smartwatch from a fashion brand
https://www.cnet.com/au/products/fossil-q-founder/review/


its not from a company that specialises from tech and its not from a company that specialises in watches.

but better than nothing i guess. I personally have a garmin vivosmart HR i use for running and stuff.

>>58041547
if its daily use I'd say 1 or 3. personally I'd say 1 because black faces are kinda played out for casual watches. you do still sometimes see them on womens watches.

the reason why i say 1 or 3 is because leather needs timme to recover after you wear it, and requires more maintenance. also gotta keep it away from moisture, corrosives, make sure it dosent stretch, peel, etc. etc. steel bracelet is more durable and longer lasting.
If it were me I'd opt for 1 on account of the simple unobtrusive face.
if you are into cheap solar powered quartz, maybe also consider the casio's edifice series. its a more polished every-day look in comparison to g-shocks, and cheaper than the seiko counterpart (seiko solar).

>>58041549
it seems quiet big, i'm a lanky guy, i dont expect it to look good on me, i guess i will sell it.

>>58041579
do tell me whats the point of buying a SARB to someone who probably owns higher end watches already

its a good watch, but it isn't particularly interesting

>>58041584
sorry, should probably clarify.

DO NOT go with new up and coming brands.

the issue is one of longevity. many of them spring up, make a quick buck, fail to establish themselves a market niche, and end up falling into obscurity.

the movements are legit. that part is fine. its everything else thats a bit iffy. part of buying a watch is the branding. if you are gonna go cheap-ish, make sure its from a well known company is all im saying.

another issue is craftsmanship. cheaper companies tend to have shoddier components, i.e. pooerer watchproofing, etc.
they may not. but you never know with newish brands that havent hit the time where their first watches start having faults yet.

that being said, there are circumstances where its necessary to buy from such companies. one example is the fact that the japanese dont ever use tritium tubes in any of their watches, and hence there's a market niche for lower priced automatic tritium watches, with the higher end being dominated by companies like marathon and ball.

to date im not aware of any companies that fulfill this. except for a brief period where a company called borealis made a watch using t25 tritium and the miyota movements and sold them for 500 bucks.

>>58041625
He asked about formal occasions. An Oris Aquis is a sport watch and not a dress watch. Expensive doesn't mean classy.

>>58041717
>implying you can buy a formal watch for 300 bucks

quartz maybe.

but to find a slim profile watch in an automatic would cost a minimum of 1000 bucks.

I get by with an eco drive stilleto (5mm thickness) for formal occasions because I cant afford a slim automatic. and that alone cost 300.

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>>58029958
>Women are going to be impressed

>>58041735
you're putting too high a requirement for it

"getting by" means literally anything under 44mm and that isn't a g-shock

a formal watch needs to be relatively neutral, not really more than that, for most people

heck, the suits itself that most people wear probably cost more like 300 than 1000

also: old omegas can be had for about 300-400, those would be gr8, and any small analog watch with no special whistles is going to be ok (leather strap preferred)

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What's /wt/ opinion of cheap quartz watches from places like Aliexpress. pic related, claims to be japan quartz movement. Second hand ticks loud af. Durability though, how long can I expect the movement to run reasonably okay to just wear when it matches my outfit?

>>58041735
You're such a fucking autist

>>58041773
If it's actually a miyota quartz, it should run well.

>>58041769
im confused.
Formal watches are meant to be thin so it slipped under the cuffs of your shirt.

the diameter of the watch is changing back to sub 30mm on account of the overadjustment caused by shit tier companies like MVMT.

also leather, etc etc.

>>58041773
i wouldnt. its highly unlikely a quality jap movement would be in generic named shit like what youve posted.
besides, low end seikos arent that expensive. look up pulsar or lorus watches. they're sub-brands owned by seiko and have decent quality for a cheaper price.

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>>58036648

>>58041809
>>58041790
I got this one because it was only 8 or 9 bucks and like the design. Over the past month its held time against my eco drive wellish (I think, I don't know a lot about accuracy), but it's lagging only a second behind.

>>58042005
>only a second behind.
well that's really good accuracy then. so probably an actual miyota.

>>58041809
>its highly unlikely a quality jap movement would be in generic named shit like what youve posted.
the cheapest miyota quartz is $5 when sold by the unit to a person. Probably half that if you're a company buying in bulk. it's very likely.

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>>58042128
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iS tHIS mY aLPHA tO yOUR oMEGA?

>>58032282
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>>58038037
Get a better strap son, that ones ugly

>>58042058
On the back it says Japan movement P189L. I'm not sure how to go about identifying based on that however

>>58042310
open it

>>58036014
I find it strange that the Japanese, masters of the elegant and understated as seen in e.g. ikebana, would hack up something as inelegant, busy and down right ugly as that.

>>58042459
it's for the export market

>>58042107

Please do not listen to the idiots suggesting that someone with little to no familiarity with watches attempt to buy a vintage Omega.

You are extremely likely to end up getting taken advantage of as you do not have the familiarity with the vintage Omega models in question to be able to tell which examples are worth bidding on. In any case any such vintage watch would then subsequently need a $150 service.

To stay within a $300 budget I would strongly recommend an Orient Bambino or a Seiko SARB 033 or 035.

Unless your dad owns any Rolexes, he is reasonably unlikely to already have a watch with similar styling to those two options, and either would be in your price range.

>>58036245
There are many problems with that dial. Evidently Omega is not used to make designs with white faces. Let me count the ways:
- the 10 second markers are dominated by the lume and lacks good contrast in daylight
- no markers extend to the periphery
The sub dials are too small, should be extended to overlap and even re-use the lume markers
- lume is missing on one sub dial hand
- no sub dials have lume, none
- the "wings" of the hands at the 3 and 6 o'clock sub dials are ludicrous, probably a desperate attempt of wooing Blackbird pilots
- no day, date or month
- no moonphase (remember this is a space project, supposedly)
- no GMT hand or alternative time zone (again, this is supposed to be used by astronauts)

>>58042107
tritium illumination is done via radiation.

unlike lume that slowly fades over the course of a night, it glows consistently.

its mostly used in diver watches, or those who are active during the night, i.e. hunters, military, etc.

given that divers use it, the fact that quartz watches require battery changes mean that every now and then the back hatch needs to be opened, potentially compromising the water proofing of the watch, since diver watches especially need to be sealed to certain standards.

hence an automatic diver watch is desirable, and while automatic movements still require regular servicing, if it is running smoothly it can be put off (dont fix what aint broke after all).

also listen to >>58042469
some vintage watches get shipped to india, get repainted, get a new face, then get sold.
plus vintage watches require some work on the internals and it would be impossible to tell the quality of the clockwork from ebay images.

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>>58036648
I had the same problem, found this.

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FINALLY i was able to find a nato strap that fits comfortably and doesn't scratch.

it does make the watch body sit higher tho, hope this aint gonna be a problem in the winter when wearing lots of clothes and shit

now if it were only an automatic.... *sniff* nah i think not having to set it everyday will outweight the "lack of soul" in the long run

>>58041152
>or /pointy rock/ threads on /g/ as well?
We also appreciate sun dials here.

>you check the time on your phone.
You might. I do not. That sends bad signals to my clients.

>trying to display wealth
A gentleman does not display wealth, no matter how much he may have.

>>58042749
>A gentleman does not display wealth
pure class, absolute donkeys

>>58041297
>>58041381
Are you sure it uses tritium tubes? It does not look like it. Green suggests a more normal lume.

Tritium half like is about 12 years so after 30 years a tritium source would be down to about 20 percent of original strength.

While tritium in itself is a gas, being an isotope of hydrogen, are you sure it cannot be obtained in solid form reacted with another element? I believe some early Flightmasters had tritium paint. Long chain hydrocarbons substituted with tritium would appear like a good idea for high density illumination but I have not been able to find this.

>>58041297
>I paid $4000

Damn.

Which is the better movement, Miyota 9015 or Orient Cal 48743?

>>58042238
>Has not heard of George Daniels
Please tell me you are joking. Please.

>>58042465
Very good. What do you recommend then?

Also, the Astron range was off the spectrum, at least it had functionality. I miss those.

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>>58042817
>Are you sure it uses tritium tubes? It does not look like it. Green suggests a more normal lume.

Yeah they aren't tubes. Just going off looks, it appears like it's a "tritium paint" of some sort where they might have it contained in micro-bubbles or something inside of it, or in some sort of compound like you suggested.

But it's definitely a tritium dial as it doesn't glow + it's turning cream colored + it's from 1990 + the dial says "Swiss - T < 25" which assures that it's radiation levels are below the legal limit.

Anyways I've done a shitload of searching and found nothing on the subject. The only thing I found was for radium dials where any moisture that gets in the case could react with the radium paint and turn it green, amongst other colors. You see that on a lot of old Rolex watches. Found nothing for tritium dials however and I wanted to know whether
>it had any water damage
or
>the hands were aftermarket
or if it were some sort of weird patina thing I wasn't aware of that made the area at the base of the lumed portion of the hands get a weird greenish color.

>>58032282
NASA-spec Mark II. with either 861 or 321.

>>58042873

Not only that, but Omega totally fucked up the implementation.

>>58042929

They really should do a 321 to make it a true re-issue, but they won't.

>>58039973
I didn't say that. I was saying the watch he pictured wasn't solid gold

I cant remeber witch brand it was but acoring to this graphic it was a "haute horologerie"

The watch was a fashion brand very cheap and crapy made, with a see throught back case
The movment was epic, a quartz movment mixed with a MECHANICAL second hand, the thing was so repulsive that I had to send them an email telling them to take that shit out of the market.

Fashion brands should stay with normies.

>>58042929
>>58042938
The difference seems to be minor, and I see some consider the 861 more precise.

That still is no innovation. Why not an entirely new all refractory movement, more functionality and better useability?

>>58043086
how would that make them a return on investment when people buy the ones they put out with the same old movement they've used for decades

>>58043086
Because it would lose its NASA spaceflight certification, and Swatch would probably shit it up with a cuck-axial escapement.

>>58034642
sugoi as fuck

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>>58031580

i remember reading that bear grylls wears one of those because he's a pussy bitch who needs a life alert on his wrist

les stroud didn't wear no get out of jail free watch

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>>58036219
>there is no excuse for a date aperture that shows more than one number

im so tired of seeing that shit

>>58043336
I bet there are people who literally can't imagine how the number changing in the little window works. These watches must be made for them.

>>58041566
Because you're getting what you pay for at $54.

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>>58036648
look into high accuracy quartz pieces (like the citizen chronomaster) , those seem to have nice finishing/etc than the bottom of the barrel

there's a whole subforum on WUS about it, even if you don't care about accuracy it will probably bear some fruit in terms of decent quartz's

>>58043410
>people who literally can't imagine how the number changing in the little window works

i don't want to live on this planet anymore

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>>58041040
>know any watches that come with an inbuilt geiger counter?

>2017 - .5
>Not being in your HEV suit at all times

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>>58041152

I just don't get the thought process here. I mean it's literally retarded.

Pocket watches were the norm until wrist watches came about and were more convenient.
So, now people argue that wrist watches are irrelevant because you always have a clock in your pocket, essentially a pocket watch. A proven less convenient way of telling time.

I just don't even.

>>58041040
Some but all quartz and expensive.

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>>58041520
>fossil
>smartwatch

HEINOUS

>>58041658
>to date im not aware of any companies that fulfill this. except for a brief period where a company called borealis made a watch using t25 tritium and the miyota movements and sold them for 500 bucks.
It was an NH35 and it was $300, I'm literally wearing it now. If you want a tritium diver you can snag a polycarbonate cased T25 one for $150 or the steel with ceramic bezel T100 for just over $200 from Deep Blue right now.

Noob question: what's the difference between a solid links bracelet and a folded one?

>>58042128
>"what time is it?"
>"black"

>>58044000
Solid links are solid metal. Folded are thin sheets folded into links. Solid links are higher quality, don't pull hair, more durable, but heavier and more expensive.

>>58037590
I have this watch. It's nice.

>>58029958
There's a tier beyond PP and AP

For example:
http://chronomania.free.fr/Articles/Dufour/visitechezdufour.html

A Patek looks like a cheap mass product shitter compared to this.

>>58044032
Thx anon

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/5iuc11/skagen_archer_finally_learning_to_appreciate_nice/

Are there any Breitling owners here?

What Bretling do you have?

Also: whi are Tag Heuer watches so commonly despised by watch nerds??

>>58044214
They took a beloved classic brand and ran it into the ground with tacky designs, poor quality, and ETA rebadges while selling them for luxury prices.

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>>58044214
Breitling isn't exactly liked much more than TAG.

>>58039973
>>rose gold can't be solid gold
>What the fuck are you even saying?
Rose gold is for fags like you.

>>58044235
I like Breitling a shitload more than FAG Heuer. They're still independent, have recently been making in house movements (and their ETA-based watched are COSC certified and high quality), they don't go full retard with endless special editions and redesigns.

Admittedly they're primarily for nigger football stars and tossers, but things like the Navitimer are fine.

>>58044235
Why that?

It's a legendary brand. I've never seen anybody shittin on Breitling.

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Hey /wt/ someone gift me pic related. Is it any good?

>>58044332
You haven't been looking much then. Just as a example, the watch snob said he'd rather die than wear a Breitling. I don't think his negativity towards the brand is isolated.

Really, the people who I have generally herd the most praise for Breitling is from friends who have no understanding of watches and drool over some huge breitling bentley piece or something.

That being said, a vintage Top Time can be a fine looker.

>>58044449
no

>>58044449
Yeah but only if you live in California.

>>58044474
But I don't live there

>>58044498
well then it's no good

>>58044560
But why?

>>58044331

Any watch brand that spends as much on marketing and celebrity endorsements as Brietling can and should be assumed to be selling vastly overpriced watches to the horologically ignorant.

If they actually cared about the quality of their products they would invest their marketing budget in making better watches.

In general, with the exception of Rolex, the defensibility of a watchmaker is inversely proportional to their advertising budget.

>>58044603
>But why?

Anywhere else will make you look like a tosser, honestly.

>>58044717

You bring up valid points, but I think comparing Breitling to TAG is a stretch considering how absolute dogshit TAG is in literally every way whereas companies like Breitling or Omega at least have SOME redeeming qualities and they have a few watches in their lineup which I would argue are acceptable buys.

>>58044813
>how absolute dogshit TAG is in literally every way

Could you give a few examples?

>>58045179
>fake screws held on with glue

If you had the money to buy a new Rolex, would you? What would you get?

>>58045403
No, I'd buy a pelagos or snowfrake instead.

>>58045403
>If you had the money to buy a new Rolex, would you? What would you get?

If I specifically had to buy new then Skydweller, no question. That's going to be a massive long-run hit IMO. They're so fucking cool and it's interesting to see Rolex start to add more than baseline complications.

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>>58045403

No, as I can't stand maxi-case Rolexes. I'd buy a Grand Seiko SBGH001 for that money.

>>58045403
White Milgaus, yes.
Sub. Yes.
Explorer 1. Yes.
Anything. No.

>>58045403
No. I just don't get the love for Rolex. They're gaudy and they scream show off nouveau riche

I'd go for a grand seiko or a tudor black bay

>>58040422

Would these be grey market? As in there's no warranty for them or very difficult to have a warranty claim?

>>58040343
>>58041024

Thank you for the suggestions.

I'll watch out for the sun and my imouto.

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Should I buy this? $50

Casio W-735H-1AEF

This watch doesn't seem to have automatic daylight summer time changes and other gimped meme features. Just a simple digital watch with standard features like alarm and shit?

Are the original Seagull 1963 reissue watches (38 mm domed acrylic with a red star) made by Seagull? If not, who? Because these are not sold by Seagull. They are sold by Poljot24, for exameple. All these different versions are a bit confusing.

Search for the Reddit r/watches thread about that watch.

It has all the info you need.

>>58046073

It's called a distributor, anon.

>>58046092
I've seen this thread, but it doesn't say who made the original reissue.

>>58045932
Looks good. Yeah for $50, that's a nice daily usable watch.

>>58046141
So it's made by Seagull?

Times Weekenders are $16 on Amazon Deal of the Day right now. Worth picking up as a first proper watch? I'm rocking a Casio terrorist watch currently.

>>58046326
No.

Get a Seiko 5 instead.

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>>58044332
>one of the few breitlings i actually like
>+/- 1250 bucks
>LITERALLY A MIYOTA QUARTZ

>>58043172
By that reasoning we should still be using steam power and slaves. If you don't renew yourself you will get yet another quartz crisis and deserve every bit of pain that comes with it.

As a matter of fact the Swatch group is already in financial difficulties since Chinese authorities are coming down on corruption gifts like a ton of bricks. Also elsewhere the world economic situation is painful to the market segment buying Omega. Those buying Patek Philippe are of course not as badly hurt.

Also if you don't up the ante there will be new players coming up to enter a market that has not seen any elevation, just like Chinese Xiaomi is now snapping at the heels of Apple. And while they are not there yet they will take the market unless you continuously reinvent yourself and the market and the offerings.

>>58043181
>Because it would lose its NASA spaceflight certification
I doubt the entire range of Speedmasters are space qualified and a commemorative offering does not have to be so either. From what I read only one model and at that special batches only are qualified.

>Swatch would probably shit it up with a cuck-axial escapement.
That is also a danger.

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>tfw when you're unsure if you want to sell the Cosmotron
>tfw when you're unsure what strap to get for the SRP777 and SARB033

>>58041040
>watches that come with an inbuilt geiger counter
A Geiger-Müller tube is a high voltage device and not suited for miniaturization. Also were it small it would be less sensitive. I would imagine it would require a fair bit of electric power too.

>>58046561
needs more numbers

>>58046874

>>58046561
זה יותר יפה

>>58046326
Pick it up if you like how it looks. It's cheap enough that you shouldn't worry about it. You can switch it up depending on what you're wearing.

what u guys think of the iwatch 2 for an iphone owner?

/g/reetings

i'm an emt student, getting ready to start my career as a firefighter
at the moment i am broke af but soon as my degree is complete, i have a 44k starting position offer
REALLY looking forward to having some extra money...i'm sure all of you know this college life feel

anyway i know very little about timepieces, which is pathetic for a german guy like myself

i wonder, can anyone recommend an incredibly tanky, but not gaudy, wristwatch?
i think most firestations will prohibit the wearing of jewelry, and as such this timepiece must be, at least to some appreciable degree, fire resistant
IE: no plastic, no cloth bands, etc

Any suggestions? Thanks fellas

>>58047341
>fire resistant
Are you going to be wearing it over the sleeve of your fire jacket?

>>58047468
no it'll be under the jacket but there is a break between the wrist and the glove, and as such it may be partially exposed occasionally. and i can't run the risk of spending money on something that could melt. dig?

>>58047488
>there is a break between the wrist and the glove
Terrifying.

>>58047488
Would the fire station prohibit metal watches as well? It may heat up potentially burning your wrist if exposed to heat sources.

>>58047341
Seiko SRP777, replace the band to whatever you'd like.

>>58047488

If you're any where a plastic watch could melt then I'm betting the metal watch will just sear your skin off.

>>58047537
i have seen many firefighters with wristwatches, all metal, however during training excercizes i can't see under their jackets so i have no idea whether they take them off before suiting up
i will ask eventually
but for the moment, i suspect metal to be ideal
at the very least preferrable

>>58047549
>Seiko SRP777
this is wonderful suggestion, thank you!

does anyone have similar suggestions?

>>58047590
Consider getting the bracelet for it.

Also: Orient Ray, Vostok Amphibia, Citizen NY0040 (if you can find one).

>>58047622
thank you!

>>58037601
i have one from C & B and the large end bent

>>58037661
post pics of bloody hand/fingers

>>58038254
>my sis made fun of the strap. What would you guys recommend?
kek.
slap her tits together.
also: post sis pic

>>58032208
>being a degenerate

actually contributing to the decline of society, that is why I say degenerate

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>>58044449

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>>58046561
Just get pic related.

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/wt/ I really wanna buy this one. Already owned ocean one and I was happy with that back then.

So why shouldn't I and if you gonna say something negative about it give me another option.

I like divers of this style, get on with your life.

Can someone explain proportions in regards to watch size and wrist size to me? I'm a really skinny guy, and I received a citizen quartz over a year ago and I've never worn it because it is stupidly large on my wrist (it is 42mm)

how do i know what is reasonable? Would something like this work for me, if its measured as 39mm? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Citizen-Quartz-BF0580-57E-Black-Dial-Silver-Tone-Day-Date-Mens-Dress-Watch-/261767700860?hash=item3cf292217c:g:TIQAAOSwj0NUfTGd

Another listing of a variation of the same model lists the band size as 22mm, how would that work on a watch that is 39mm? I thought they are usually 18mm when dealing with under 40mm watch size

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Is this an OK NATO strap to buy if I'm a poorfag? It will be going on a timex exp. Any other store recommendations for Australia?
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32446865722.html
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>>58029958
>entry-level approved
>breitling aka entry-level except gaudier and shittier
>omega aka rolex except shit
>tudor aka literally dogshit

>>58048101
personally, i don't like the date at the 6, but go for it m8.

>>58048304
I quite like it. Didn't mind it at 3 either but I hated the magnifier (after a while).

>>58048136
You're skinny, but how big is your wrist?

Ive met some asian guys who are like 5'2" and tiny, little wrists. For that 30-36mm works well.

If you're not quite that small-wristed, but still small, 32-38mm should work, 39 might work.

I work with very high magnetic fields/xrays. Any suggestions for a watch?

>>58048668
Digital quartz.

>>58048668
Depends. Unless you have 2-6k to spend on a watch, go with >>58048806
If you do, then you have options.

>>58046823
that's jumping to a big conclusion. People WANT the old movement. They do not stand to gain anything by releasing a speedmaster with a new movement because it will not increase sales and therefore their investment will not pay off.

that is quite literally all that swatch is interested in, so you should not expect them to put something out for the sake of progress

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This

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put niggas to shame

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>>58049578

>>58049552
how much do these snowflake tudors go for

>>58049578
why do you have all that shit on the floor m8?

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>>58049464
>People WANT the old movement.
it is of course quite possible I am alone in wanting progress. Nevertheless, can you back up your statement?

I just saw that Omega has gotten a new CEO who like his predecessor will want to overtake Rolex as the number one. Doing more of the same will not improve the situation. They had one quartz crisis. Will they get a new MEMS crisis?

>>58049578
Closeup and info on that watch with the blue face and star constellation, please?

>>58046994
סתום את הפה שלך יהודי זבל, מה אתה בא לפה ומפריש צחנה של גויים

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>>58048074
nah senpai, its the funky case and four crowns i like, not the rest of the pilot style shit

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>>58050304
arnold and son moonphase or something.
if i recall correctly its actually surprisingly well priced for the haute horlogerie crap it pretends to be

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>>58046874
>SRP777

Shark mesh.

>SARB033

I know I already bought the same strap for my KS Special, but the Hirsch black heavy calf with the white stitching is going to go amazingly well with that watch.

>>58050628
>Shark mesh.
that looks nice! where'd you get it?
looks sweet on that srp777 too

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>>58050628

Not mine, though I do have a shark mesh bracelet I usually use on my L5100 Speedmaster.

Just looked for a picture of an SRP777 on a shark mesh to make the suggestion.

>>58050858
>>58050729

Quoted the wrong post.

>>58049552
Nice collection, but why 5 divers?

>>58052720
There's 3 divers. The one on far left and far right are GMT.

>>58052720
I have 5 divers myself, what's wrong with that? They're fucking cool.

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>>58052951
>he only has 5 divers

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>>58042873
>>58036549


is there a book or something which details the last century or so of watchmaking history/culture and the the influential people, events and pieces?

>>58042128
Fat / 10

>>58038254
>sis made fun of the strap

hit her on the side of the head before coming in her cunt

>>58034597
Now THAT is a big guy's watch.

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>>58050628
As far as the SRP is concerned, i do recalling having a 22mm shark mesh lying around somewhere.

Problem is that i'm still considering if i should get a lizard strap for my SARB.

Otherwise, still no answer if i should keep the Cosmotron.

>>58054231
How much would you want for it?

>>58054246
As of right now, it's on eBay for 125.

>>58046874
I would keep the cosmotron personally. How much would you sell it for anyways?

>>58054259
>>58054246
>>58054260
Correction, it was up for 125$.

I'll keep it, as it'll be a bitch to find another proper one.

>>58054231
I think the right lizard strap would look phenomenal on the SARB.

Also, has anyone had any successes or problems with cheap chink mesh straps? I'd like to try out a couple but don't feel like dropping $40 on something I'm not sure I'll actually like.

>>58055075
I have a couple I spent $10 on, the Ritche one sucked but I quite like the other one.

>>58055075

You can get one for $15 usually on eBay.

>>58055075
I got a 12$ and it is quite good.

Bitch to size though.

ight /wt/, why does Panerai get so much shit?

they got in house movements and an original design, why the bullying?

>>58055744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZbCH7Owkk

>>58055744
Is it because of Mr. Wonderful?

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>$225
>two hundred twenty five dollars

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>>58044332
>I've never seen anybody shittin on Breitling

>>58044472
>the watch snob

that nigger with the little askmen blog? I can't believe someone like you reads that garbage

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>>58029958
Hey /wt/, what watch is this? Thanks.

>>58056238
I don't really read him, I just happen to see his articles every once in a while. Also, archie has mentioned him at least a few times.

>>58056292
>archie has mentioned him at least a few times

which video, i would love to see this

if you can't remember which, does archie like him or bash him

>>58056313
It was just a few mentions from what I've seen (I haven't watch most of his videos) he generally mentioned something like "And the watch snob agrees with me about X!"

He likes him.

>>58056332
gay, i was hoping he would destroy him for being "patrician" while writing for the most pleb site in existence

>>58048158
bump

>>58056451

All NATO's are basically the same. There might be a little difference between them, but they're all just cheap pieces of nylon. You can get 'em for $1 on eBay.

>>58056547
Cheers. What is a good nato strap that people recommend here for daily wear? Leather stinks after a while I've heard.

>>58056547
some cheap watches ship with horrible nylon, but generally speaking you can make them a lot better by throwing them in the washing machine or something

>>58056559
if you don't mind paying a bit of a premium compared to chinese ebay stuff: cheapestnatostraps.com sells very good stuff, I've ordered nylon NATO, lether NATO and nylon zulu from there - everything was very nice

>>58055744
abhorrently large, ayylmao sized watches that appeal to sylvester stallone, jason statham types along with uboat shit

when the fucking reddit and wus crowd got into the homages that say marina militare they go and fucking lose it with copyright shit, and all homage discussion gets you banned. as if they're making something so excellent.

a whole host of other shit i don't really feel like racking my brain to remember since i've had the privilege of not having to think about that "brand" for a while.

>>58045869

you're not getting a warranty on a JDM watch anyway

>>58056685

If I buy from longislandwatch I'm getting a warranty by them.