Discussion of AMD Ryzen Processors

apple is gonna put these in the new iMacs, Mac Pros and future MacBooks mid 2017, shits gonna be cash

>>57990809
That picture makes me violently ill.

>>57990850
It hurts to be love sick

honestly i was suprised it beat the 6900 at stock clocks but i want to know how it does at boost and if there will be lower binned 8 core zens

Seriously if they just straight up copy intels lineup i am fucking done.

Also where the fuck is Vega?

>inb4 i only need 4 cores for gaming
2006 called they want their IPC back

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>benching against a $1299 cpu
>Fury X was sold at the same or more than the 980ti
>/g/ expects a 6900k upgrade for $300

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Amada

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>>57990966
More like "A-cute-da"
Am I right?

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>tfw no jenny gf

>>57991022
she will never wrap those huge black baps between your head and your head and suffocate you

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>>57991022

>>57991022
feels good man

Also:
>There are people unironically watching porn with debian jessie

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>>57990809
Jenny a shit. Nicole the best blue waifu

>>57988604
Yes, but not earlier than 2017Q2, I don't really expect them before 2017Q3 though
>>57988618
The 5350 and the AM1 socket were quite popular despite being so short lived
>>57988883
But how aggressive can it be configured ? Will it let you rape your CPU with high voltages? Will it actually deliver on as much performance as your cooling can handle?
I'm quite skeptical, but it would make liquid cooling quite popular in enthusiast builds if it actually works that great
>>57989276
Raja cucked the CPU division out of the marketing money

>>57991597
Nicole is crap.

>>57990809
I just need to know the prices of their processors to know if I should wait for an upgrade or get an older intel cpu. My pc is 6 years and older and I need a new one. I want to build one myself this time.

>Put human female in OP
>/g/ talks about technology
>Put robot female in OP
>/g/ talks about robot

no word on the 4 and 6 core Zen is kind of a bummer. 6 core Zen might be the best buy for 'consumers'.

>>57994031
The robot is a piece of technology. Incidentally, I'd like to stick my USB into that robot.

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>>57991068

>eggs
>underrated post

>>57990902
AMD is in a tight spot. AMD can't just price Zen equal to Intel. They knows it, Intel knows it and we, for the most part, know it. Lots of anons are counting on this. To me is fun to have this expectation on how AMD will play their hand. AMD is at a tipping point and they better have done their research on how they should bet on their hand because it might be their last.

>>57994356
It's funny seeing posts like this. 6years ago when they made a brief comeback at Intel, they priced with Intel. They do the same with their gfx cards and Nvidia. They price at the same as their competitors. You're best bet will be to wait for the Intel 7k series. Intel will price these in at the same level they always do, the 6k series will drop slightly and amd will either and die on the vine because they can't afford to lower their prices.

Looking at the arstechnica slides, if you look at the connection to the data cache, it can load 2 128 bit vectors per clock, but only store one 128 bit vector per clock.

I assume this is going to throttle avx2. otherwise the caches look very impressive (especially compared to bulldozer), but no mention of latency which is an important number.

zero mention of avx512.

I'm going to buy one to fuck with, regardless.

can anyone explain this in laymans terms? like why do i give a fuck

>>57993930
There's a good chance the chip they just showed off will be ~$400 USD

Half the price of intel for the same performance as intel

While they could undercut intel less, AMD is in a position where they NEED marketshare. This is about putting out a product so unquestionable worth buying that literally everyone buys it over intel.

>>57994661
No one uses AVX3/3.1/AVX512.
AMD spoke about their cache performance during their hotchip presentation.

>>57994962
They could get away with it to. Zen is a far more producible design than Broadwell. Also 1/2 the 6900k's price would be $525.

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How much better than my Phenom II 965 is Ryzen?

I'm interested in Zen, but i think i'd be after the 64w chips in the lineup, which we don't have any details on yet.

>>57991597
If I could post some. Nicole for you I would, but that would constitute as furry and it's no fun to post images from the show.

>>57995090
Sadly, it will be 600$-700$ -_-
HALT AND CATCH FIRE RECOMMENDATION:
BETTER PERFORMANCE
1/2 PRICE

>>57994962
Is this their high end model? I'm honestly okay with a mid tier cpu since I don't do anything hugely demanding except for playing some shit games and programming which doesn't require huge amount of computing power.

10% more performance for a probably underclock 6900k...

>>57994989
Should be similar to this
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965/3605vs606

>>57995252
was stated as bone stock 6900k

>>57991597
Nicole is for furfags

>>57994132
You don't have the Gigs or the R/W speeds to satisfy.

>>57991597
lmao kys your waifu is shit

has ryzen a gpu or not?

>>57995824
Vega

Leaked price info, top processor $249
tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

>>57990887
I want to know if we can push Zen past 4Ghz as easily as we could push Bulldozer past 5Ghz. It's a shame they didn't release technical documents at the time, but I guess they may well come at a later event, or at launch sometime in Q1.

>>57995876
any benches of the ryzen igpu yet?

>>57995974
>>57995824
The Ryzen product line is CPU only. Its a single 8 core Zeppelin die.
It is not an APU, it has no IGP.

I bought i7-6700k few months ago, explain why I screwed up.

Except for price, since last time I checked, it would got for much higher price than what I paid for i7.

>>57996011
Your next upgrade will need a new socket and therefore a new mobo. AM4 in the other hand is going to be around for long, making upgrades down the road cheaper and more compelling.

>>57995888
Actually am not mad :P ...
usually even hear it till the end.. -_-

>>57996247

Given i7-6700k performance, I dont think I will need CPU upgrade for next 4 years or something. My previous i5-750 that got replaced, served me for 6 years.

>>57996534
I've got an i5-3570k at the moment and that's like what 5 years old now? A 6900K isn't even 50% faster than it.

I honestly expected significantly better than that. Even my GPU - a GTX 660 is looking at more than double the performance if I get a new mid-range card right now, nevermind a high end.

It's like CPU development just completely dropped off a cliff the past few years.

>>57996711
>It's like CPU development just completely dropped off a cliff the past few years.
That's because it did, Intel has focused almost exclusively on making better integrated graphics and making chipsets that can't overclock

>>57990809
>Calls everyone shilling for Intel a jew
>Does it for free by promoting Pajeet tech

wew.

>>57996870
I wouldn't mind the Intel shills if they posted jenny more often or other cute 2D girls.

>The final two tweaks—"Neural Net Prediction" and "Smart Prefetch"—help to shuffle data through the CPU more effectively. AMD claims there's a "true artificial network" and "learning algorithms" inside Ryzen that are able to predict future decisions, pre-load instructions, and learn application data access patterns in order to improve performance.
Hardware backdoor confirmed?

>>57994487
Kaby Lake is pretty much equal to Skylake

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>>57994317
This is you. This is why nobody else said anything.

>>57997327
Your taste is worse than shit and your parents should be punished for rasing you to be a horrible person.

>>57997443
t. Jenny

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>>57997526
I wish.

>>57994989
>How much better than my Phenom II 965 is Ryzen?


Kek. You're truly a pleb. I have a under volted amd phenom || x4 995. Feels good to not have the botnet or skynet neural network in my chip.

Still same question. Even if it's the same performance at lower wattage I'll get zen. I want USB 3 without a shit controller and I kinda want to try m.2 as my boot drive.

Still needs to be competitive. $300 CAD would be insane.

>>57997741

Fuck. 955, not 995.

>>57995342

Heh. Nearly a decade old chip and I paid $40 for it and its motherboard.

>>57991597
hell yeah.

>>57990902
honestly exactly this
i dont expect them to release it for the same price, but not this 300-500 these fuckwits are preaching
im expecting 800-950, 600-750 if they go balls out and want to grab ludicrous market share ahead of the server launch
if they could get the kind of market share gains that they saw with polaris on desktop, then carry that into the server realm along with the release of instinct they're going to demolish 2017

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>>57997652

stupid sexy robot

>>57990887
>honestly i was suprised it beat the 6900 at stock clocks but i want to know how it does at boost and if there will be lower binned 8 core zens

according to previous leaks, there will be two 8c/16t SKUs, the lower binned one at 300something bucks and the other one at 500

but it could be complete bullshit

>Seriously if they just straight up copy intels lineup i am fucking done.
pretty sure they also have 6 core models planned but the same disclaimer applies here too.

>Also where the fuck is Vega?
we literally just saw it and we know it gets perf in the 1080 ballpark. we can probably expect the same shit as the 480/1060 results.

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>Have to buy new motherboard

Why didnt someone invent a socket that just works with everything and it's the best forever

>>58000193
I would honestly like the reason for the change in chip type for each generation

>>57994031
>Put Maki
Everyone looses their shit.

>>58000193
We had that with Socket 7 but then Intel needed to keep AMD and Cyrix from piggybacking their motherboards and chipsets.

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>>57994703

>>57990809
I WANT TO CUDDLE XJ-9

8350 is the last CPU you'll ever need and it doesn't come with a shitty botnet ARM co-processor. Intels even worse.

>>58002759
Everyone does anon, she's a very cute girl.

>>58002796
currently running mate...

does work

>>57996789
What's going to happen? Will we ever get the CPU development back that we had in the 90's and early to mid 00's?

>>58003146
CPUs are like cars.

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>>58000193
>A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear.

As for AMD, I guess the new chip wouldn't run with the old chipsets. Intel has barely any excuses, their chips have very few changes.

>>58004485
Why do chipsets even matter so much if every controller is on the CPU die these days??!?!?!?

>>58004543
Sounds like something you should do research on...

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>>58000077
Checked

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>>58004485
No
Semiconductor design is getting more and more expensive and is subject to diminishing returns. Do you have any idea how much it cost to refit a fab for a smaller node? Intel's lack of significant IPC increase isn't due to lack of competition. They still have incentive to get customers to replace the CPUs they already have. There architecture has reached a dead end cumulating in the extremely underwhelming Kaby Lake. Anything they could do (complete redesign) would yield minimal benefits (would be lucky to get 25% more IPC after several core revisions), would be grossly expensive (literally billions of dollars to design a new arc and refit the fabs), and could be a total dead end and a waste of money (Netburst, Itanium, several other Intel arcs that never even made it to market, not to mention AMD's Bulldozer).

Throughput can't be increased significantly without absolutely pissing on yields, clock speeds are at their limits and are subject to diminishing returns.

Only way to go now is MORE CORES.

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>>58004723
ment to reply to >>58003146

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>>58004543
Well, they did matter back on AM3+ days. That's why I said Intel has no excuse.

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>>57994962
it will be $500 and the one with lower clockspeed will be $350. amd wants a part of the market back and the prices are targeted at the 6900k (half the price, same performance) and 6700k (same price, better performance). i'm sure they won't make them the same prices as the equivalent intels

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>>57990809
>http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=brokenlynx+xj9

Sources shall deliver.

>>58006224
Who's the guy posting the cat looking character and tagging it with every character and show in the /co/llection?

>>57995896
obivously specs arnt final
>>58000150
so they wont have anything that can topple the 1080 or titan x/ti?

fuck

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>>58006248
Cat character?

>>58006353
http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=51648

>>58006248
That cargirl is a "fusion" of Jenny, Nicole, Peridot and Pacifica so her pics get all those tags.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Why is this faggot so smug?

>>57990887
They said the 3.4Ghz Ryzens are gonna be the slowest ones.

>>57990887
Was it a 6900 or a 6900k?

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>>57995495
wew lad

>>57995896
What I infer is AMD built some very advanced forms of their AVFS system into the chip. If your cooling is good enough (though I assume there are still some "hardcoded" limits) the chip will naturally clock as high as their binning process labels the VID bins, with everything being inside of coded spec.

Overclocking as always is still done best with cpntrol and piwersaving features shut off. I wouldnt want some fancy "hundreds" of sensors suite making fuckery with the limits of stability anyways.

I'm more interested in absolute single core maximum speeds and all-core speeds with no SMT enabled anyways. The self-clocking mechanism is really flippin nice, dont get me wrong, but I set my CPUs to about 95% of their safe voltage limit and dial in the clocks accordingly, regardless of temp or environment.

>>57990887
amd said this would be the minimum, this is the lowest binned 8 core they were showing, likely higher binned one's clock higher with higher potential max, unless they are able to disable something we don't know of yet.

lower binned/cut cpus will be 6 core and 4 core, both with threading if leaks are real.

>>57990902
ok, lets get something right, amd did not price match the 980ti, nvidia price matched the fury, or are you telling me that the company that did founder edition gpus just cut their 1000$ gpu slightly and sold it at almost half cost out of the goodness of their hearts?

nvidia was scared shitless of amds raw specs, and they pushed the 980ti out at 650 to kill enthusiasm for amd. due to a falling out in the process and design, the fury only reached its full potential in mantle, vulcan, and dx12

I honestly hope amd is baiting nvidia into pushing the 1080ti out, just so they can undercut them this time around, would be amazing to see nvidia put out their gpu, price it fucking stupidly (i would lose my shit if they founder edition it at a higher price then a titan when its on a cut titan die) then have amd put a competitor out at the price they are willing to push it out at.

>>57994356
amd cut corners to make a chip that's amazing to almost everyone, but intel will have better results in some areas, that's why amd's chip is half the size of a 8350, a chip that was 200$

what we don't know is how the cut corners effect us yet.

>>57998186
the size of the chip matters more then performance. amds is about 160mm, while intel's, based on haswell as I cant find broadwell die size, is 356mm

either amd is fucking magic, or they cut a FUCKLOAD out.

remember, there is a reason they were comparing it to a 6700 in one benchmark, otherwise why not use an i5, or an i3?

>>57993560
its not that the cpu division has no marketing budget, its that they have no plans for the consumer market to expand.

everyone who wants a new cpu knows about zen, the people who don't were never going to buy amd anyway.

amd's real place for revenue is enterprize, and they don't need the fancy press conferences to sell to them.

>>57994031
honestly, it depends on the price for the 8 core, that headroom is no joke.

Plus some modicum of future proofing.

for gamers, the 4 core would probably be the best as it likely clocks the highest, see intel 4 cores getting to 4.8 but their 8 cores struggling to get 4.5

also, as of now, the 4 and 6 core are only rumors, nothing concrete has been said by amd or a partner.

>>57994703
fairley high performance 8 core 16 thread cpu. for likely sub 500$

this may also force intel to make a change in their consumer cpus, either by dropping the price, or cutting features that rape die size and cutting price while also doing away with the e series i7 entirely, and instead merging them into xeon for a while.

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>AMD is back
>Kaby Lake is Skylake + 1%

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-2600K-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B004FA8NOQ

>NiB Sandy Bridge 2600ks are selling for $416. >Used anywhere from $190-$400.

Sandy, you're the best.

>>57996011
they compared non boost zen to a 6700 and a 6900 for a reason.

6900 performance for the 6700 price range other wise why even show a 6700? if they were going to make it 700-900$ why show a cpu that's not even in the same price tier comparing them?

>>58004723
their lack of ipc isn't because of hitting a wall, its because thats not what their main buyers want.

servers and laptops want longer battery lower power use

they want more manageable thermals.

and that has been their main focus because they are by an far ahead of everyone else but so much, they could afford to do that.

the clock rate and ipc gains are a byproduct of the efforts to lower power use.

but we will know for sure if amd is competitive, it will either light a fire under intel's ass, or we will see there really is next to nowhere to go.

>>57990809
Can Jenny XJ-9 be the official waifu of Ryzen?

>>57990850
You didn't like My Life as a Teenage Robot?

>>58008248
Everyone knows Jenny is an AMD girl

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>>58008248
>>58008574
Maybe that 32 core 64 thread monstrosity Naples CPU that we've heard rumors about is actually what's running her brain. Chief Chink DID mention some kind of machine-learning bullshit built into Ryzen during that presentation. Connect the dots.

Anyone feel like Intel is just waiting for AMD to play their whole hand, then they'll release tech they've been working on for years assuming something like this happens?

Regardless it seems like AMD is coming out with some good products. But if AMD is coming out with good products you have to wonder what Intel has been holding for a rainy day, especially seeing as they've been overcharging for their products since forever.

As a company they surely wouldn't be blind enough to not see something like this coming and have a plan?

>>57990809
>bad multicore benchmarks
>"our engineers will optimize it"
>no single-core benchmarks
>vr
>playing battlefield as a CPU benchmark
>dota streamer who can't into hardware encoding
>a fucking obese female nigger playing battlefront
That's what you get with a female CEO.

there is no reason for a robit to be this thicc

>>57995234
We don't know yet. They have slides from the past where they claim the arch can scale up to 16 cores/ 32 threads, but those might be server cpu's. I think they also confirmed a 4 core/ 8 thread chip whoch would probably be the best option for gayman.
There's also the zen+ chips that they tease as having 15%+ better IPC, but as far as i know those aren't anywhere near close to release.
We also have no idea what kind of clockspeeds are possible. The one on display was at 3.4 but for all we know it can go up to 5. Which i highly doubt but at this point everything is speculation.

>amd makes the soc's found in xbone, xbone s, ps4, and ps4 pro
>they've made massive strides in the apu sector (no matter how irrelevant that currently is)
>developed hbm, which is breakneck fast as is but will double in bandwidth with hbm2 and scales with more modules
>zen is meant to be massively scalable from single digit wattage parts for mobile up to enterprise chips with dozens of physical cores and smt
>all this is inevitably leading up to apus mounted on interposers with fat stacks of hbm, potentially not even needing separate ram sticks

Calling it now, that will be the future of console gaming. We've already gotten to the point where you can buy a slightly better version of a system to get better visuals and framerate, amd will inadvertently make steam machines pipe dream a reality.

>>57990844
No they won't. They've been Intel since they switched from PowerPC, they'll stay Intel.

>>58007576
No, they said the fastest model will clock to at least 3.4 at base. However, the boost clock will be higher than that.

>>58009228
>the latest Macbook Pros have dedicated Radeon cards in them

????

>>58007965
$400 for a new 2600K
Seriously?

Maybe I should sell my 2600k then.

>>57990902
The AMD shills that run Techreport think 500 bucks at launch and they're usually right because they have inside people.

Any 100$ tier cpu I can swap for my 2memecore g3258?

>>58007848
Everything Zen needs to improve has been laid out 3 years ago. We get Zen+ with a smaller process in 2018. That's potentially 25-30% general gains on top of at the least better FPU/Int logic and SMT

Zen+ is the next SB.

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>>58000193
socket 7 was over 20 years ago

>>57991597
>not season one
yes but fuck you anyway

>>57991068
>why are you doing this?
EAT THE ENTIRE BOWL

Now that AMD is back could someone please update the Wikipedia pages for AMD processors? Most of the lists on there are out of date.

>>58003146
probably not with silicon, we need a paradigm shift for that

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>>57991021
amada a cute

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>>58008025
No
They are actually hitting a wall. Do you think these things scale infinitely? Even a slightly wider core would require EXPONENTIAL complexity. Bottlenecks in Skylake are virtually non existent. There is nothing left to improve. More throughput without a wider core would require another architecture entirely which probably wouldnt increase IPC significantly anyways.

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>>58010883
>>58010929

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>>58010939

imma halt on posting amada (sorry lads)
personally, I can't wait for Zen, because I made a shitty buy on an X4 880k (decent CPU, was impulse bought though), so I can't wait to sell it for fuck all, then muster up whatever's left to get a decent Zen, or just find some shady as fuck i7 on ebay or something

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>imma halt on posting amada
just a prank bro

INTEL BLOW THE FUCK OUT.

>>58009012
>my retardation gets no replies so I will make a thread
heh

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i like jenny

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Question

Could it be that the fact they beat intel at 8c/16t tests only means that they're better at "hyperthreading"? Maybe they still lose at pure single core IPC benchmarks

>>58011256
T H R E E

>>58004712
What jenny use? Intel or amd?

>>58011335
The show is from 2003. Clearly Athlon 64

>>58011208
She dresses a bit whoreish, but she's still a pure girl.

>>58011561
More like built this way.

>My Q6600 can finally retire
If there will be an APU with reasonable power (means it can run almost everything in the middle highs @1080p in the 30-60FPS counts) I'll buy one. I could have a budget gaming build for 400 bucks (only need the mobo+ddr4+APU)

>>58011256
AMD's first attempt at hyperthreading beating Intel's 15 year expertise? Unlikely. CPU tech has been cratered and there aren't any obvious improvements left, this is why Intel has been improving extensions like AVX2 lately. Intel's FPU and TDP is bigger than Zen because of that. The stable build of Blender AMD was using don't include every AVX2 optimization in the git master, Intel's FPU can handle 265 bit commands in one cycle, Zen break them into 128 bit, so an with an optimized build Intel will be faster.

Those doesn't anything for shit tier single threaded games and benchmarks though, they won't be optimized for new instructions.

I really hope that they manage to get so close to Intel here, that the only options are either for Jewtel to cut their prices with heavy hand, or to start seriously looking beyond the traditional silicon.
Of course they're trying to put that off as long as possible, but if the competition is now cheaper and nearly as powerful with only ~60% the price, some solution needs to be found.
I honestly can't see Intel suddenly cutting 30-40% off their prices, so they need to quickly regain that spot as by far the fastest option out there and that can't be achieved with the current processes.
Silicon is simply reaching the end of it's line.
Personally I don't think that graphene is going to be the next big thing.
Intel already has silicon photonics products in production, so that might be the next field they turn their sights to.

>>57994356
actually they might make am4 boards cheap(lga2011 are unreasonable) and price cpu itself high enough

>>58013029
>AMD's first attempt at hyperthreading beating Intel's 15 year expertise?

it means nothing, seriously

>>58013322
Jim Keller is a certified shit wrecker

some youtuber (paul's hardware IIRC) said that Ryzen's boost clock would automatically scale with temps so that better cooling would lead to better perfs without any manual configuration

I don't remember getting that from the presentation but that sounds pretty fucking cool, assuming it's not as terrible as current automatic OC modes on the market

what does /g/ think of this?

>>58013337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOTFE7sJY-Q

he is also based

>>58013447
it's probably nvidia boost but CPU variant, same as intel turbo but with less restrictions

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>>58013447

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>>58013515

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>>58013322
>it means nothing, seriously
It means hyperthreading is optimized as it can be. There isn't any magic wiggle room in that area, if there was they would be flying its flag with a silly name like these

>>58013607
I hope these features aren't exclusive to the 8 core variant but available to most of their lineup.

>>58013893
The automatic overclock will probably be exclusive to the black edition. Other than that, everything's going to be everywhere. All the Ryzen parts are based on the same core.

Is there a possibility to have quad channel of ram ?

>>58013447
Apparently it's able to boost single-threaded workloads by just shutting down the other cores and using the extra power/heat on frequency boost.

>>57994317
Is there any logical reason why you would fucking say that post is underrated? Has anybody expressed any kind of dissatisfaction or criticism at all against it? Are you delusional? Are you reading replies that are nonexistent? Maybe you come from communities with voting systems, but there is literally no way that you could know what other people think of that post you just replied to here. Maybe it's psychological. Maybe it's your own post you're replying to, like a 12 year old fucktard liking his own facebook posts thinking his swelling autism is going unnoticed. Maybe your self esteem depends on you tricking yourself into thinking someone out there thinks your post is worth something. Or maybe you are just a retard, the worst kind of retard, the one who thinks he's smart, the one who thinks he's the only one to have gotten the joke, to have understood the post. Well, guess what, faggot, that post is under no definition underrated so why don't you do the world a favor and go check out what the bottom of your toilet smells like?

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>>58014288

>>58013453
JIM TAKE EM OUT BACK LIKE OLD YELLER KELLER

JIM MY PENIS COULDNT GET ANY SWELLER KELLER

JIM THE PROPHECY TELLER KELLER

JIM THE FRESH PRINCE OF BELAIR KELLER

JIM NOBODY'S BUYING BUT IM STILL TOP SELLER KELLER

>>58014128
That will probably only be available for opterons it's looking like

>>58014288
This is going in my pasta folder

Kaby lake will be out January second, with prices about 5% higher than current skykake prices.

How much longer will you be waiting for zen?

>>58014617
2 weeks

t. my ass

>>58009719
>they're usually right because they have inside people.

they're owned by AMD.

>>58007848
because they want to kill the 6900k and 6700k

>>58004985

>>58014617
they could sell kaby lake under the same SKUs and nobody would fucking notice

>>58007848
>nvidia was scared shitless of amds raw specs, and they pushed the 980ti out at 650 to kill enthusiasm for amd. due to a falling out in the process and design, the fury only reached its full potential in mantle, vulcan, and dx12
Bullshit
So much bullshit

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>>58015208
> I shall proceed to shit post even in the face of in-refutable facts of which I have given no evidence to even attempt to disprove.

>>58009228
If AMD provides the right incentives they'll switch. PPC -> Intel isn't the same as Intel -> AMD

Like at all

>>58015393
As bad as modern Apple is, they're not dumb enough to switch over to AMD. That's just a bad business decision all around.

>>58015208
only the last part is bullshit, but everything else is basically correct.

Nvidia had never before release a x80 Ti part so close to a Titan or for so low a price.
Fiji/Fury looked like a monster with 500 GB/s bandwidth and 4k shaders, but nobody knew that it would have poor geometry and ROP throughput in order to squeeze all the shaders onto the die.

More-so than any other GCN part, Fiji does well in scenes with complex pixel effects and not tons of tinier triangles.

>>58015469
>Nvidia had never before release a x80 Ti part so close to a Titan or for so low a price.
Yes they have. It's called the 780 Ti, dipshit. Quit lying out of your teeth.

>>58011256
>>58011274

Really? They're all open tanks. Assuming the water input doesn't outpace the flow to the other tanks, wouldn't 3 and 4 fill up first simultaneously?

@58015448(you)

>>58015522
What counts as full?

>>58015522
1,2, and 3 would need to be full before 4 would start to fill due to the resistance involved.

>>58015448
they've had AMD GPUs for a while now. the business relation is old. if the Zen tech is good their engineers will consider it.

why do we care so much what ends up in iShit anyway?

>>58015608
ishit sells at premium and volume

U outta ur mind??

>>58015608
> why does he care so much what ends up in iShit anyway?
fifty

>>58011466
Jenny uses ARM

I JUST bought a 6600k on a whim. Did I fuck up?

>>58017384
More than likely

>>58017384
Nah

>>58017384

No, any half decent CPU out there is powerful enough to run everything you need for a decade.
Others might do it marginally faster, but no CPU is really a bad purchase at the moment.

>>58015698
so do consoles. it would definitely be a nice deal for AMD

but what really matters is business sales don't it

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Did anyone figure out if the blender test they did was actually legit?
Are there any 6900k owners here who could run that same test and see how long it takes for them to render.

Here is the program + files, then set samples to 150 and hit render.
Let's see how our CPUs compare.

https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-ryzen-blender-benchmark-scores-thread.1919896/

>>58015960
Shut up! She's pure!

>>58017888
The old blender test was against a downclocked Intel for comparison purposes.

Since then a lot has changed, so the results aren't very meaningful anymore.

>>58017888
>Are there any 6900k owners here who could run that same test and see how long it takes for them to render.
People have gotten times below 54 seconds with their stock 6900K. AMD cheated or gimped their 6900K somehow.

>>58017983
What do you mean? In the new test the i7 ran on stock clocks with boost and ryzen was locked on 3.4ghz base. How is that not meaningful anymore as they jumped from 3ghz on both to higher clock on intel vs amd

>>58018029
The new test wasn't Blender, was it?

>>58018032
Umm yes they did a blender run and handbrake

>>58018041
My bad then, I had only seen handbrake

Friendly reminder that the only information available is marketing material and it will include all the exact same botnet and "win 10only" fuckery of skylake+
And you're all hyped based on that.
Yeah.

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>>58017992

I think those guys ran their tests with 200 samples, since setting them to the 150 that they had in the test and my stock 5820k gets 48 seconds.
I think that 6900k should be hitting lower 40s with 150 samples.
At 200 samples I get 01:07 minutes.

>>58018058
This.

When something other than marketing materials (say some independent benchmarks) start floating around, there's literally no reason to even be interested in this garbage.

>>58018058
why are you blaming Intel and AMD for Windows being shit?

>>58011466
It is set around the year 2070 though