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Heads up

- Leap 42.2 (current stable) has a dependency circle with non-free media codecs. However I replaced the older gstreamer framework, it goes a long way and firefox works.

- Also the kernel 4.4 (Leap 42.2) has a security vulnerability which was patched last week. Update your system if you are on kernel v4.4

Also

I need help filing this bug https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=137529 on KDE. However I can't find the proper category (or in this case, package name) in their list. I believe the application menu is called kickoff which is not in their list of software provided in https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi

Any suggestions?

Hey guys when I installed Ubuntu in 2013 on my samsung notebook (RV411) the trackpad worked just fine even the scrolling gesture. I installed Debian today and it doesn't.
Can I just get a generic trackpad driver? I don't care about gestures.

>>57888226
>openPEPE

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Why the fuck are none of debian's packages ever compiled with SMB support?
mpv, mc, gnome-commander.

>>57888253
Do this:
xmodmap -pp > ~/xmodmap
Execute in a terminal:
xinput --list-props <id> > ~/xinput
Please note that <id> is the number of your Touchpad found executing in a terminal:
xinput --list
An example, partial output of this notes the id is 12:
↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=12 [slave pointer (2)]
After reading this for help on how to enter VT and log evtest events, switch to a VT using Crtl+Alt+F2 and enter the following in a terminal:
sudo evtest /dev/input/eventX > ~/evtest
Add identifier, Scroll, tap, drag, press buttons, and create various other possible events on the Touchpad. Then, press CTRL+C to exit.
Press Crtl+Alt+F7 to switch back to X.
After reading this on reporting xev logs, execute the following in a terminal, and perform the relevant actions:
xev > ~/xev.log

More in
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection

Can somebody please explain the a part of the gawk segment in this one-liner for me?

find . -name '*.png' | gawk 'BEGIN{a=1}{printf "mv -v %s %02.d\n", $0, "a++"}' | bash

I know what it does, bulk-rename to sequential png filenames, but the %s and $0 are not clear to me. Can anyone help me understand?

>>57888329
>slave pointer
>slave
I think debian replaced "slave" with something else and track-pad doesn't work anymore

>>57888226
Hey KDE Shill.
Do you know what KDE package handles power management? Seems like I didn't install something since i don't have sleep/hibernate and other shit in my menu.

>>57888422
try oppressed african american

>>57888437
>what KDE package handles power management?
Why do you want KDE to do it? Get used to something more "universal"
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management#Power_management_with_systemd

>>57888485
Why not?
I'm on OpenRC though.

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Does anyone know how to fix the KDE desktop grid close button bug? Pic related.

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Does disabling hardware acceleration in firefox will improve performance if running 3.18.18 kernel with open drivers for integrated Intel HD 3000 graphics?

>>57888539
what's that PS thing in the bottom-left one?

>>57888539
Wow. It isn't showing up in the screenshot. Anyways Chromium and RetroArch should be filling their desktops since they are fullscreen but there is a little thing haunting each of them preventing it.

>>57888520
I was watching a podcast featuring one of the KDE devs. They are saying that they are going to depend more on freedesktop and systemd for a more powerful DE experience, now that they have KDE Neon to focus on.

They did claim that KDE is going to be compatible with non systemd OS/distros as well but it'll miss some features (such as systemd-logind utilization) on those system.

See
http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/systemd-and-plasma
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-distro-packagers/2015-July/000082.html
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/47280/

However I believe it's not hard to add entries in kickoff that is linked to your suspend/hibernate/sleep scripts

>>57888543
how the fuck would disabling hardware acceleration on a system that obviously supports it help anything?

>>57888554
I wonder that too.

>>57888554
RetroArch
http://www.howtogeek.com/260274/how-to-set-up-retroarch-the-ultimate-all-in-one-retro-games-emulator/

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>>57888554
RetroArch. It's a do everything emulator front end. The new UI is PS3-esque.

>>57888636
>>57888639
That actually looks pretty nice. Thanks.

>>57888670
It is. Pretty soon I'm going to set up a RetroBox with tons of games and shit for my kids. It's gonna be dope.

>>57888226
How to get ffmpeg to create vp8 webm for upload in 4chan. I use

the instructions in wsg sticky

and ffpeg tells me that it wasn't built with the right codeds and is "unable" to do what I instruct it to do.

>>57888226
fucking deutsch shills, somehow worse than the redcucks

So is 4.9 the one to wait for regarding amd gpus?

One of the many reasons I went with a rx 480.

>>57888949
lol NEET are you mad tho?

>>57888876
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/WebM

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Virtualbox will be ok for W10 testing?

>>57888983

>>57888975
Thanks, I know how ffmpeg works at least to make these webms. I've done it trillions of times, in GENTOO. Now I use openSUSe and ffmpeg fails me. So does ./configure in many cases because openSUSe doesn't use a default PGK_CONFIG_PATH.

I'm on bandit18 now.
> password is the only line that's different between passwords.old and passwords.new
> write 6 lines of Python to solve the thing
> when I could have just used

$ diff FILES

arrgh

Why do fully free distros have such fucktarded names? Dragora, gNewSense, blarg?? Ugly names.

>>57888340
I'm a bit blown away by

printf "cp -v %s %02d.png\n", $0, a++

There are 4 syntaxes for printf and this one seems to take

printf (FORMAT, ARGUMENTS...) 

but the format includes a command. In fact it IS a command :

mv -v %THIS_STRING %FORMAT

followed by argument $0, which is the whole expression, followed by yet another argument which is an incerement.

>>57889148
gNewSense is great

Libreboot quit GNU and FSF because they fired a trans person.

They all use Debian.

SJWs not even once.

>>57889190
>cp
That's illegal. Anon.

>>57889314
ok

>>57889405
https://libreboot.org/gnu-insult/

>>57889412
ok

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So, I want to install Debian testing in my laptop, then I tried it first on a virtual machine and I'm getting this and is not booting?

Can I expect the same when I install in the laptop?

>>57889190
So you're using gawk to simulate a for-loop?

./configure file.

How do I check what options can I use with it?

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> get new laptop
> install Arch on my old one so I can figure out what I want out of Arch without not having a laptop
> get bored setting up Xmonad
> at this point haven't even opened the old laptop in over a month

It's perfectly functional and usable but there are a bunch of features missing still and I cannot be bothered to set it all up. My crown achievement was making it so it automatically updates everything when I open the lid.

I guess what I'm saying is how do I motivate myself?

>>57889713
Actually now that I think about it I think I forgot the root and encryption passwords.

Basically would have to start all over.

>>57889634
./configure --help

Can i use this on ubuntu?
https://liquorix.net/#install

>>57889713
>install Arch
found your problem

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>>57888116
What does he even do on that little computer all day?

>>57890011
Fighting for freedom of course.

>>57890011
Answering inane emails.

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What distro should I install on my new thinkpad t420 ?

>>57890072
>new thinkpad t420
>new

>>57890100
it's new to me !

Don't miss rms' RSS feed for cutting edge gnews!
https://www.stallman.org/rss/rss.xml

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>>57890072
>>57890011
>>>/a/

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>>57888116
gnU mad?

Is debian stable usable or should i change to unstable or another distro altogether

>>57890134
>google
enjoy your botnet

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>>57890130

>>57890152
I use Bing in Edge on Windows 10.

Lightning fast

>>57890011
Show some fucking respect kiddo.

http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_04_03.html

Am I to understand that it's simply not possible to have character classes that match
a solitary '^',
just '^' and '!',
just '^' and '-', or
just '!' and '-'

A character class that matches just '!' did work.

..o,..,o..

>>57890110
Stallman is a lefty piece of trash. He should stick to computers.

>>57890145
It's still on kernel 3.16 which is ridiculously old. You should use something with at least 4.4 which is the current extended support kernel release.

>>57890325
>nothing bt inane comments

>>57890134
That's interesting, 2004 was when I begun using it.

>>57890355
What about testing?

>>57890355
2.6.18 still in use and supported by rhel. :^)

>>57890145
stable is for servers
testing is frozen unstable, dont use it
unstable is for desktops

>>57890134
Fun fact. Search windows 10, windows 7 and linux. Only two countries that have more searches on linux are Finland and china

>>57890011

He actually downloads websites and emails, reads them offline.

>>57890495
He actually uses Tor and Icecat.

>>57890495
He actually had sex with a parrot.

>>57890222
tldp is a bad source for learning bash, stick to greg's wiki http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob

>>57890475
What about stable on a laptop?

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Is there a way to install the official version of cinnamon in Ubuntu 16.04? I see ppas but they're all unofficial...

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10/10 proud of myself

>>57890624
Stop namefagging.

>>57890624
stop namefagging

>>57890624
Been about 12 years, they'll never fix it.
Also stop namefagging.

>57890642
>57890653
>57890677
Any better ways to get (you)'s?

Oh I know one

How do i disable permanently screen turning off after 10 min on i3wm?

>>57890712
setterm writes to standard output a character string that will invoke the specified terminal capabilities. Where possible terminfo database (terminfo is a data base describing terminals, used by screen-oriented programs and libraries such as ncurses) is consulted to find the string to use.

By default, the Linux kernel will use screen-save option to disable it you need to type command (it turns off monitor VESA powersaving features):

$ setterm -powersave off -blank 0

If it dumps back you with an error that read as follows:

>cannot (un)set powersave mode
You need to shutdown X window system and rerun the above command. Better, add following two commands to your ~/.xinitrc file:

setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0
xset s off

>>57889932
Yeah, you're probably right. I only even did it because my brother and I were drunk and he told me to. I was drunk for most of the initial setup too.

>>57890712
install screenturningoffdisabler from the AUR

what are some of the best wifi pentesting distros ?
im using wifislax but goyscript crashes after capturing handshake correctly.. says somethihng about "cat: VERSION" or some shit

>>57890712
>>57890765
Add the following line to your .xinitrc or startup script.

xset s off -dpms

>>57890788
Whats wrong with Kali? Also, you don't need a whole distro for wifi pentesting.

>>57890788
kek

>>57890788
I want to be hacker, where do i start anon
i see you know stuff

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>>57890875
A hacker is someone who enjoys playful cleverness—not necessarily with computers. The programmers in the old MIT free software community of the 60s and 70s referred to themselves as hackers. Around 1980, journalists who discovered the hacker community mistakenly took the term to mean “security breaker.”

Please don't spread this mistake. People who break security are “crackers.”

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>>57890788
leave your neighbours wifi alone faggot

>>57890825
Kali doesnt come with GOYScript, Geminis and many other wifi-specific tools
also its broader yes but its much bigger too
>>57890917
i have better internet
i just like to learn wich wifi configurations NOT to use

>>57891001
attackpup

>>57891001
>i just like to learn wich wifi configurations NOT to use
Simple: Don't use wifi; use a cable.

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>>57888116
Why is RMS such a fucking commie? I just looked at his political views and he's shilling for "Greens" (they should call themselves Reds) and he's claiming that Jews are victimized and whatnot. Typical Marxist-tier bullshit.

While I appreciate what he's done for Free Software movement, it's hard to like him for his communist ideology.

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>>57891129

>>57891129
why would he not be? just look at the "guy".
what else is even left for him?

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>>57891149
not trolling at all. Have you actually looked at his political views? He has a blog and constantly updates it:

Read this:

https://www.stallman.org/archives/2016-sep-dec.html

It's Marxist/Trotsky tier ideology.

>>57891301
>why would he not be? just look at the "guy".
>what else is even left for him?
kek'd.

>>57890825
>>57891028
know any way of setting kali as a specific language and keyboard configuration everytime it boots? i have to "set xkbmap -layout es" everytime i boot for my keyboard to work properly

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Serious question: Are CLI applications supposed to be for low-storage toasters?

>>57891129
how gahnoo r u?

>>57891628
No, people actually just feel that they can do more with them, more flexible and more adaptable than using a GUI. In many cases it's also faster, but not always, and gives more options and control.

Take making webm's for example. Pretty much every GUI falls short compared to using ffmpeg itself, and on top of that we have tools like youtube-dl
You can just chain them together. Once you've figured out how to do it that's it, you can run that shit all day converting youtube videos into webm files.

Alternatively, how would that work with a GUI? Are you going to reprogram the software to allow you to click 1 button to do it all? No, you'd just be stuck doing all the steps manually every time.

I tried out ksh (at&t 93)to see how I liked it and I found something TERRIBLE. Whenever I tab complete something, it appends the last letter I used to the end of the line with no way of deleting it. So like, I'll type Dow[TAB] and end up with Downloads/w. Wtf. Is there a way around this?

>>57891706
Okay thanks, to be honest I asked that post because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing with cmus.

>>57891724
I figured it out. Switching to emacs mode and double ESC works.

>>57891338
pic is fake

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>>57888116
Why does every distro of linux I've ever tried have a TERRIBLE problem with screen tearing? What gives?

>>57891338
>Have you actually looked at his political views?
Don't assume they haven't.
He thinks you are trolling simply because you disagree with his anarcho-syndicalist views
don't just assume the average poster here possesses that much intelligence

>>57891913
Because you didn't install GNU/Linux.

>>57891761
Oh, I don't know what that is but I just looked it up.
From what I can tell though I think for programs like that it might just be more about personal preference. CLI just feels cleaner and is more keyboard focused than mouse focused.
But GUI's are probably just as good. You just fine more CLI tools on Linux because we tend to have more people who have that preference, as well as the fact that it's much easier to program than a GUI.

>>57891913

Weird, what's your graphics hardware?

>>57891913
Your problem isn't distro specific then
something is wrong with how you installed your video drivers

>>57891925
If you would actually follow his rss, you'd know better. >>57891129 is low quality bait by someone who didn't ever read anything rms published.

>>57891974
would you not describe him as a socialist?
you are simply deluded if you answered no.
better remove yourself from this thread so the sane people don't have to see your retardation.

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>>57891958
Linux mint, Ubuntu on thinkpad W520
CentOS on University lab computers that were made for Ubuntu as well.

Basically any time you scroll in a browser or even when the login switches to the desktop environment you notice the screen tearing either diagonally across or horizontally in the middle.

>>57892005
install compton, solved

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>tfw no medium breasted wolfgirl brown skinned loli vampire who is actually 500 years old to sit on my face and roughly abuse my penis with "her" feet

>>57892022
>compton
Interesting. Will try. The card in the W520 is the Nvidia Quadro 2000M

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>>57892005
Are you using an nvidia card? If so, try this:

nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"

This minimizes the screentearing for me. Keep in mind that doesn't save on boot so put it in your startup applications in Mint.

>>57891956
>>57892064

>>57892075
had the same problem and this is what fixed it.
definitely recommend to try it

I have 12 or so hdd's, both 2.5 and 3.5 format ranging from 500g to 2 tb, all of them are internal drives so I just use them with a usb 3 dock. my main computer has 7tb of space, but with a shitload of folders and stuff scattered around.

I want to use all these random small drives as an extra cold backup, is there a way to copy everything across them all and just have a prompt popup to insert a new drive when one gets full? sort of like how you used to do it with floppy disks? I don't want to have to go into my main storage and manually divide things up to fit on each hdd.

what do you guys do with you old <1tb drives anyway?

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I just bought a Lenovo x230. I'm going to switch to Linux from Windows for the first time in my life but I'm not sure which distro to choose.

I'm in comp sci and I know very basic shell/bash scripting. As of now I'm thinking Ubuntu. Any suggestions?

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>>57892075
Thanks dawg

>>57892143
I won't say what to pick but stay clear of mint and the default Ubuntu with unity.
if you want Ubuntu then get any other spin of it like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu gnome etc.

>>57892173
I'm a lifetime windows user. Can you tell me why I should stay away from mint. Also why not default Ubuntu?

>>57892143
id say Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu are the most userfriendly, while both mantaining the classic GNOME look of older Ubuntu that i grew to love, MATE specially
the package manager is the same across all ubuntu forks so you can choose wichever looks nice to you!

>>57892234
>Can you tell me why I should stay away from mint.
He's meming, Mint is fine if you install all security updates (it will prompt you for what you want your update policy to be when you first boot it up)

>>57892234

Mint is a franken-distro of Debian and Ubuntu. Debian and Ubuntu name things differently, and Mint just kind of throws these conflictingly-named packages all together. This works okay on an fresh install, because their team has taken time to fix all the problems, but it tends to get screwy after some updates.
Also they don't seem to have a proper security team at all, and security updates from Mint are spotty as a result.

>>57892234
Stock Ubuntu (with Unity) = Windows Vista
Ubuntu MATE/GNOME = Win7
Xubuntu = Win7 debloated
lubuntu = Win7 with the classic theme and the requirements of XP
thats the bets analogy i can think of

Trying to pick my first Linux distro. For a while, I figured GNOME 3 was my favorite DE, but I've recently realized that Cinnamon is pretty comfy too. If I decide on Cinnamon, is Mint the only option that's newbie-friendly? There's plenty of options for GNOME, I realize (currently looking at Ubuntu GNOME because NVIDIA can't be assed to provide support for Fedora 25), but for Cinnamon, do I just have to bite the bullet and take Mint?

>>57892234
it's a horribly hacked together distro which blocks packages from updating since it might break something.
there's literally no reason to use it over ubuntu.
default ubuntu comes with a DE which is an absolute piece of shit
also look into the distros suggested in this post >>57892267

>>57892309
You do realize that a DE is simply a set of programs, right?
You can run them on any distro.

>>57892298
I thought that if any conflicts came up with packages they just blacklisted them entirely.

the more I read about it the more I wonder why mint is even still a thing anymore. They just focused on ease of use over everything else.

>>57892307
kbuntu = fine wine

>>57892332
>Mint is a franken-distro of Debian and Ubuntu.
Really only true for LMDE 1, which is no longer in use.
>it's a horribly hacked together distro which blocks packages from updating since it might break something.
Nothing is blocked if you select all updates, though.

>>57892234
Mint is fine.
These guys are upset it doesn't heavily use the command line so it doesn't make them feel as cool.
>>57892365
Read this guy's post. The anti-Mint posters are just sad it isn't targeted for "pro hackers" like them.

>>57892267
>>57892281
>>57892298
>>57892307
>>57892332

Thanks mates

>>57892385
see >>57892365 >>57892384

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>>57888116
What distro has native WIN+key shortcuts other than mint? That shit makes everything ten billion times easier when I can resize windows with arrow keys and open up directories with win+E

>>57892423
>keybinds are somehow tied to a specific distro
what did he mean by this?
also nice new filename
i wonder which site you came from.

>>57892384

This is some old bullshit right here. Mint is just as command-line friendly as any other distro.

I recommend against it because the install I put on my Dad's computer got screwy after about a year and a half's worth of updates, and I'm far from the only one who's had problems with Mint's poor packaging practices.
(If Debian was a little more newb friendly I'd have put him on that, like my machine. I've had this same debian install brought with me across four different computers and about 12 years.)

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>>57892423
>choosing a distro based on whether it comes with a few specific keyboard shortcuts set by default

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>>57892433
>Native shortcuts

It helps to read when insulting someone

>>57892459
Why do they have to be native, though? You could try binding them yourself.

Does anyone here use any of the security driven distros as your primary OS? Is it a pain in the ass to use them or does the security just run in the background?

Been using Manjaro for a little while now, it's not too bad but I think I'm headed back to Fedora now that 25 is out. Anyone else using Fedora 25? If so what do you think so far?

>>57892562
I use hardened gentoo.
>Is it a pain in the ass to use them or does the security just run in the background?
Nope, shouldn't be a problem if you don't have a shit pc. If you want a good firewall it could take a bit of time to learn about and configure though.

>>57888116
Why do Linux threats tend to have cute or jap related names like Midori or Umbreon?

why should I use virtual workspaces instead of logging in on four seperate ttys and switching with alt+F1-4?

>enable zsh
>it wants me to fill out all these menus and shit

>>57892651
I meant like tails or whatever, hardened gentoo is server only isn't it? You have to fuck around a fair bit to get it usable as a desktop.

>>57892765
Why the fuck would you use something like tails as your primary system? It defeats the whole point of tails, doesn't it?
>hardened gentoo is server only isn't it?
Nah, you just have to copy USE flags from whatever desktop profile you would use otherwise and paste them to your make.conf
And check once in a while if any new USE flags have been added to the profile.

>>57892799
well i don't fucking know I just looked at the thing in the sticky about choosing a distro and that was one I remembered from the security driven ones. You know what I mean though.

>>57892710
you only get 1 terminal each, scrolling is a pain, switching probably turns your display off and on again each time, etc.
I mean if you really want to I guess nothing's stopping you though.

>>57892812
What do you even mean by "security driven"?
It can mean a lot of things from hardened compiling to using a MAC like grsecurity or selinux.
Arch provides kernels already patched with gresucirty iirc so using it there would be pretty easy, but you won't have hardened compiling.
If you just need a distro for anonymous browsing use tails. But there's no reason to use it as your primary distro.

>>57892765
>hardened gentoo is server only isn't it
I run hardened gentoo on my desktop, but I also turned off both SELinux and PaX after a while.

>install ubuntu, working almost fine
>install mate de, some weird errors start happening
you really can't expect linux to just work

>>57893016
>ubuntu
>just work
pick one

>>57893016
Ubuntu has went down the shitter and is no longer a good distro at all.

>>57893016
Maybe you just forgot GNU.

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>>57893077
high quality post

@57893077
very bad post
@57893098
>le matrix hacker "aesthetic"
nice

>>57893016
>"weird errors"
hurrr hurrr.
it 'just works' better than switching out the desktop GUI on mac or windows. certainly windows at least.
quit bitching and google it.

>>57893016
At least it installs, meanwhile I've been spending 6 hours trying to _install_ windows

Software is going down the drain in general

>>57893057
>>57893067
well I'll have to use ROS and it seems ubuntu is the distro which has the best support

>>57893193
Wrong. Arch has it. I didn't check for other distros but I'm sure everything debian based has it too.

>>57893212
I said >best< support, read carefully.

>>57893243
What does this mean exactly? How is this specific to ubuntu?

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>>57893255
this is for the last version

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>>57893193
>apt-get remove unity
>apt-get install mate
>it doesnt just work ugh :((

>>57893323
Just install ubuntu mate if that's what you want.

>>57893311
You do realize that you can have literally the same packages on any distro?
I don't know what they mean by "support" and why do you need different versions for ubuntu and debian.

I am a windows babby. I want to get into Linux with a more difficult to maintain/install distro. I have narrowed it down to Arch and OpenSUSE.

Anyone wanna push me one way or the other?

>>57893394
>I don't know what they mean by "support" and why do you need different versions for ubuntu and debian.
I don't kow either. I just want it to just work.

>>57893440
you sound like a faggot so get arch

>>57893440
slackware

>>57893440
Gentoo Linux minus GNU would be the better choice

Is it safe to shrink my linux partitions with gparted? I don't want to lose data

>>57893381
I know. I'm calling him stupid for wanting it to.
>>57893440
Installing an 'easy' distro and messing with the CLI and such until you're comfortable with that, then trying something like arch is much better.
Install antergos, play with things you find interesting, then install arch when you're comfortable if you still want to. Or opensuse, whatever.

>>57893466
I thought this was the friendly linux thread you fucking bully

>>57893445
Just install it from source. It shouldn't care what distro you run.
http://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Source
Or use gentoo if you want things to just work. They even have a ROS page on their wiki.

>>57893498
fuck off
this thread isn't a safe space for fags like you

>>57890788
Backbox is hands down the best. I even used to use it as my daily driver.

>>57893109

>>57893077
very bad post
>>57893098
>le matrix hacker "aesthetic"
nice

Is there something like AUR in Debian?
I know I can just "make insall", but not all program have "make uninstall" and tracking file changes require a lot of effort.

>>57893612
no, debian's ratarded package manager isn't capable of downloading shit from git so you can't even write your own pkgbuilds
use a better distro.

>>57893612
no

>>57893612
well, no, no there isn't. people wouldn't use arch if there was. thats the main reason arch is good.

>>57893580
It literally is. Read the title

>>57893632
dpkg/apt is probably the worst package manager by far among any distro currently in existence

all in agreement?

>>57893635
not really.
i can achieve literally the same thing arch does with its aur without actually using it.
i'm on gentoo though, not on retarded sjwbian.
>>57893653
yes. that's a self evident truth and anyone who denies it is obviously mentally ill.

>>57892143
Fedora is the clear choice for you.

>>57893694
Based on what?

>>57893736
your aggressive predatory homosexual tendencies

>>57893755
But I'm a bottom

>>57893765
that's why it is predatory, you eat dicks with your ass

>>57893772
i see. that can't be the only reason why i should use it though. I would assume not everyone using it is a predatory homosexual like myself.

feh, nitrogen, or hsetroot?

>>57894052
how about none

backgrounds are for pussies

>>57894052
nitrogen tbqh

>>57894052
feh

>>57894052
ristretto

>>57894052
I wish I could set the background with sxiv. I prefer it to feh as an image viewer, but Its not as nice to have two image viewers, one for setting the background, or an image viewer and a dedicated background setter with a bunch of options I dont want to use like setting a color or gradients, rather than just having an image viewer that can also set a background. Like feh. But I dont like feh as much as sxiv.

>>57894313
install gentoo

>>57894335
that wouldnt fix the problem or teach me C.

>>57894313
setroot

>>57893632
>you can't even write your own pkgbuilds
You can make your own packages for debian, how do you think the maintainers make them? magic?

>>57894521
Really? so you can somehow write package builds that pull from git even if the package manager isn't capable of it?

>>57894313
sxiv has hjkl, thanks.
>>57894521
Could you tell me how to make a package in Debian?

>>57894521
did you simply ignore the first part of the sentence or it's just that using sjwbian has negatively impacted your mental health?

>>57894562
>>57894618
In case it wouldn't work with the src-downloading feature you could still just write a wrapper script.

>>57894580
No, ask the shitty Debian Wiki.

>>57894682
can't be bothered with that.
they should keep up with competition since that is an expected feature and pretty much anything else can do it.

>>57894618
you get triggered far to easily

>>57894761
There is a huge difference between "can't do it" and "I don't want to bother to make it do it"

And the wrapper script would be ridiculously easier to write compared to Debians package build rules. You really are complaining about a non-issue here.

>>57894766
i think you are using a definition of "triggered" from your personal reality so it doesn't really apply where i'm from (the real world)

>>57894803
it can't pull straight from git.
that's a fact.
what i can't be bothered to do is write a wrapper script.
i'm not complaining since i don't use that piece of shit distro. i'm just stating that it's package manager is shit since it lacks basic features like being able to download source code straight from git.

>>57894806
heh, way too easily

>>57894826
reread the post you replied too.
sadly it's still valid for the post i'm replying to right now.

>>57894835
edit: easier than a feminist

>>57894851
reread the post you replied too and follow the simple instruction i've written their
shouldn't be too hard even for someone like you

>>57894861
does the wrong pronoun set you off too? what should is use for you? maybe 'xer' or 'zer'? 'jer' sounds a lot better.

>>57894885
still not following huh?
i guess you should try reading the chain of replies until you finally get :(

this thread is dumb

>>57894891
append before :( - "it"

>>57894891
I like 'jer' too. as long as i use the right pronoun it shouldn't trigger jou

as much

>>57894915
i see your still not understanding basic things here...
well, you could always read these posts to get a better idea of what i'm talking about

i am literally switching to bsd because of you retards

>>57894922
why are you using 'i' you should be using 'ji'

cool
im writing some code for it right now
it has a cool kernel

>>57894934
sorry i didn't quite get the deeper meaning of you're post
could you explain in layman's terms please?

>>57894944
well, jou could always read these posts to get a better idea of what i'm talking about

>>57894957
i think i got this one
didn't get the reference to the posts your talking about though...
theres still a barrier of sorts between us

omg I didnt even post but just reading the thread you people suck so bad jesus
I wanted to stop using macos but im just gonna get win10 now, bye jerks.

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>>57895084
Just as planned.

I just installed Xubuntu and ran into some troubles.

When i had a fresh install, i was able to run OBS-studio without any problems.

But after remove some shit i didnt need in the Software program, and installing my themes and icons, OBS crashes after i click 'start streaming'.

Does anyone know what may be causing this? Did i somehow disable opengl or something?

>>57895429
have you tried reinstalling obs? maybe you broke a dependency or something

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So I've been using arch heavily on my laptop for about 1-2 years now and I've recently outgrown games so I'm thinking of making the switch (to ubunutu) but before I do I have a few questions, how compatible is my hardward and is fan speed controlled by the OS (win7, ubuntu) or is it controlled by the hardware itself? I'm quite worried about my GPU overheating and dying since at idle only one fan spins then when it starts heating up two other fans kick in, I'm worried on linux the other two fans might not kick in

(dual booting isn't an option because when I installed win7 I installed it on an ssd without unplugging mechanical drives so...plus I kinda don't wanna)

>>57896352
Fan speed of what? It is definitely controlled by the hardware in the sense that the logic is on the hardware itself.
You could definitely configure GPU fan speed in your gpu configuration utility.
The CPU and any other chassis fans are usually controlled through bios
>(dual booting isn't an option because when I installed win7 I installed it on an ssd without unplugging mechanical drives so...plus I kinda don't wanna)
how is this even relevant? You could install literally dozens of distro on one drive if you wished so

>xubuntu trying to update ttf-mscorefonts-installer by downloading and trying to run an .exe file

ah yes v. impressive

>>57896383
the gpu/cpu fan control i.e making the fans speed up if they're getting hot
also as for the dual booting thing it means my bootloaders on a different drive to the OS and I'm too lazy to figure out which or configure it properly

>>57893632

You're an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.
Pacman, Arch's package manager, can't download from git too. Makepkg can, but it's not the package manager. Kill yourself to stop spreading more wrong information confidently.

>>57896410
yeah the gpu one you could configure directly from your OS, I'm pretty sure catalyst does that.
>configure it properly
There isn't really anything to it besides installing grub on different drives. It's extremely easy if you use mbr and just do grub-install /dev/sdx

>>57894122

>1.6 out
Feels good. All they have to do is fix the translation issue since it's not building any translations.

>>57896458
might give dual booting a try then

>>57896497
yeah, just don't install it on your windows drive
keep everything separated, that way you won't fuck shit it up if you don't understand what you're doing.

Most lightweight 32 bit distro for a vm? I don't even need xorg
Tried debian but it just won't install.

ok guys, I've been using Arch for a long time now but I want to move on to a solely source-based distro. rolling release is very important to me so I've considered gentoo, thought I'm not sure whether it's just a meme. also, would you guys recommend slackware?

all I want is that the package manager automatically fetches, compiles and installs the repo's source, whenever there is a newer version available and this recursively for all dependencies. optimally, I want to be able to choose the branch, e.g. I'm interested in clang 4.0 which has not yet been released, as the SVN already has a lot of c++17 features implemented. are both of these comfortably possible under gentoo?

>>57896518
planning on using it persistently for a few days before installing anything though

>>57896543

>will be using the same stuff on all distributions
>thinks there's a significant difference in terms of lightweightness between them

Hint: there isn't.

>>57896546

>wants rolling release
>slackware
How about you do basic, 30 second research before that?

>>57896561
as far as I know, slackware includes a rolling preview version, though I'm not sure

>>57896546
>slackware
if you can live without automatic dependency resolution, i can't be bothered doing it manually.
gentoo is fucking great though. it fits everything you've laid out.
>clang 4.0
i'm pretty sure you could get that by using the version 9999 package which fetches directly from git. You could probably choose the branch you want as well which may or may not require editing the ebuild.

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What is the linux command that do what netstat does?

I need to know which exact number of .xx on 192.168.1.xx I am using to open ports and shit

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On arch with firefox.
Whenever I open large images like 1000x1000 CPU load increase and temps reach 70-80 C range.
I need to close the tab to reach normal temps.
Any idea how to fix it?

>>57896708
netstat

>>57896767
Welp

>>57896751
Install google chromium

>>57896792
Other than that?
The CPU is Core i5 2025m

does the extra compatibility ubunutu has make it worth picking over fedora?

>>57896803
recompile firefox

>>57896633
thank you a lot, anon

>>57896807
couldn't get that meaningless word
what exactly is meant by "the extra compatibility ubunutu has"
what exactly is meant by "extra"

>>57896816
nvm I figured it out.
It's JS running in the background.

>>57896831
just disable that piece of shit anywhere you can get away with doing so

>>57896824
i.e more stuff is made for debian based systems than is made for red hat based distros

>>57896857

You can compile any software on any distribution.

>>57896849
It was the userscript 4chanx by ccd0.

>>57896857
lmfao
i see....
damg... how have i been compiling all this debian exclusive code for all these years....
thanks man now ill swith to ubuntu for extra compatibility

>>57896860
>>57896868
you guys assume I have the technical knowhow to compile stuff myself and not just apt-get install or install it from a .deb file

>>57896892
>technical knowledge to compile
lmfao
yeah man....
make && make install / emerge softwarename requires so much technical knowledge
fucking kek

>>57896906
yeah mate cause those commands can compile and install any piece of software right? XDDD

>>57896927
yeah they totally can't xD
make isnt pretty much universally used at all bruh
and emerge isn't just the equivalent of apt-get install

>>57896936
one example that doesn't use make : https://docs.syncthing.net/dev/building.html

also errors I run into when compiling would be harder to fix than errors I run into whilst installing a .deb

>>57896892

First of all, only the most obscure software can' be found in the repository.
Secondly, other people sometimes create private repositories (PPAs) from which you can install it.
Thirdly, you can learn to create your own packages, it's not hard and better than doing this >>57896906.

guys i think i have become enlightened
i can do this
check this out
git clone https://github.com/repo
cd repo
make
sudo make install
im a programmer now!!
>>57896941
>go
lmao
yeah... a lot of software uses that.
also
>fix errors when compiling
>emerge
lmfao

>>57896941

It's packaged on pretty much every distribution.

http://beta.repology.org/package/syncthing.html

What is the best distro for a cat?

>>57896959

You're the most obnoxious, pretentious person ever. Kill yourself.

>>57896968
puppy

>>57896977
>pretentious
i dont think you know this word
what have i pretended to do exactly?

>>57896968

Anything with Xfce.

https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12117

>>57896977

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

>>57896977
your the most lightweight, enterprise-ready and user-friendly person even. kys you'reself

Is MBR the same for linux and windows?

>>57896997

Your pathetic humble-brag. By making it sound so trivial (which it is), you also tried to make yourself sound so smart. Only insecure and pretentious people do that.

>>57897006
yes its a very low level thing it doesn't care about your os.

>>57897012
in what way did i brag?
can you not tell that i was mocking retards like that guy who think any kind of "knowhow" is required to do this? you must be terminally autistic

please isolate yourself from the outside world if you cant answer these questions:
point out exactly where this happened, i need the exact quote.
"humble-brag"
"you also tried to make yourself sound so smart"
"pretentious"
"insecure" (about what?)

>>57897017
So does linux provide additional protection, since it prevent writing over MBR unless you have root privilege?
Assuming no privilege escalation vulnerabilities are used?

>>57897038
i think you're thinking of the boot loader here.
they aren't the same thing.
the boot loader is usually located on your /boot partition and you can't write to it without root privileges. the mbr is very small and it just holds information about your partition table and "starts" the boot loader.

>>57897012
still waiting for an answer, pretentious insecure bitch.

>>57897096
>>57897002

>>57897088
I'm researching malware that overwrite your MBR, like MEMEZ.
Doesn't this overwrite the MBR? and replace it?

>>57896959
right so instead of helping me actually understand why what I said is wrong you're just shitposting

>>57897113
you could ask a question directly if you wanted to know something and i could reply if i knew the correct answer to it
what's your question bruh?

>>57897112
i don't think it actually does that. it probably overwrites the windows boot loader which certainly isn't the same as the mbr.
the mbr is literally 512 bytes at the beginning of your disk which holds all the information about the types of partitions you have on it. it doesn't have anything to do with your os.

>>57897127
ok let me rephrase, as a noobie who has never compiled anything should I pick ubuntu over fedora just so I can get precompiled binaries or is compiling so easy I should just go for personal preference?

>>57897152
So it overwrites the bootloader?
Make sense, since the nyacat can't be put in 512 byte.
So if I ran this under WINE should it be able to overwrite the bootloader?

How can i change image browser like in 4chan? Kde
Also still trying to recover stallman pics

>>57897176
they are the same in this regard. both are binary distros which means they aren't a good choice if you want to compile everything.
compiling is pretty easy, especially if you use a source based distro like gentoo for example, which does it by default when you do the equivalent of apt-get install

>>57897203
i would assume so.
the boot loader on windows isn't located on /boot so no.

>>57897209
stopped reading right at your second line.
post disregarded.

>>57897259
Ok, So the bootloader is safe in linux.
Then let's assume somehow malware that runs under WINE manged to screw the MBR.
How do you fix it?
Does booting a live session the dd any mbr.bin to the drive should fix it?
Or each MBR is unique?

>>57897286
it probably is protected so that it can't be written to from a running os.
you could check just by trying to delete it with parted.
>Does booting a live session the dd any mbr.bin to the drive should fix it?
that should do it.
there are also windows tools which repair the mbr i think.

does mbr load linux or grub?

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>>57897383

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>>57897322
>you could check just by trying to delete it with parted
Yes, even trying to overwrite it wit dd require root privileges.

>windows tools which repair the mbr
I'm wondering if there are any tools that does this on linux.
But since the MBR is not realted to the OS then even Hiren's can fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd73hV0audU
Or even use this
https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/

Then what if the bootloader is screwed?
>>57897383
https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-Linux-boot-process-work
GRUB

>>57897383
it tells the bootloader that theres something it can read in its drive

I just installed cmus and when i do ":add /home/myusername/Music it does nothing.
Seems like it doesn't see my mp3 files.
Am i missing something ?

>>57897383
don't know about mbr but you can directly load the kernel with efi stub.
it usually loads a boot loader though (grub, lilo, etc.)
>>57897436
>I'm wondering if there are any tools that does this on linux.
syslinux does the job i think.

>>57897450
does cmus have an update function? try u

>>57897425
please remove yourself from the thread.
you are clearly too retarded to be here if you think the gnu userland comes before the kernel in the boot process.
you are prohibited from posting here.

>>57897474
>this guy again
man, work on that triggering

>>57897481
why are you posting in this thread?
you have just been banned from here.
now leave please.

>>57897463
Fixing the bootloader?

new thread: >>57897505

>>57897502
>you have just been banned from here.
pfft.
>he does it for free

>>57897471
no

>>57897510
how are you sitll posting here? you are prohibited

using cinnamon, there's an entry in the keyboard settings saying "take a screenshot", though it doesn't do anything, curiously. can I redirect it to use scrot or do I have to create a custom shortcut for that?

>>57897279
Becose im retardet, kde or i just dont know how to name file picker?

>>57897714
he gets trigged by stallman

>>57897714
yes basically what that guy said. i literally feel uneasy when i see "him"
rewrite your post without the second line and i'll help since i've done it myself a lot of times.

>>57897724
he's referring to you >>57897798

>>57897798
How can i change image browser like in 4chan? Kde

Sorry i just lost some my stuff

>>57898225
Distro name?

best distro for my home server? Mainly used for storage and webserver

>>57898422
centOS