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1060 or 480? Drivers closed the gap in dx12 and increased the 480s benefit in dx12/vulkan. Overall they're similar. The 1060 is 20€ more expensive in my country. I mod games so I think I could profit from more VRAM but I'm not sure I'm still on a 1gb card..

>>57865608
nigger we just had this discussion last thread

>>57865608

480

and make sure you get the xfx gtr version

>>57865608
rx 480
pair it with amd processor and you get more vram
cheap out on mobo and processor then replace it with zen

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/znQWzM

arguing on the internet, budget $7000

>>57865608
specify your resolution of choice you dumb ape

>>57865671
>sli on a card that has the memory bandwidth of a fucking rx 470
lel

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>>57865627
Yeah but I'm not sure the anon has read updated reviews. The only game where's a difference above 5fps in favor of the 1060 is GTA v. And I don't play that. In newer API the 1060 gets more then 10 fps disadvantages.
>>57865729
Sry 1080p

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>>57865751

>>57865729
dont make me fight you

>>57865651
>xfx gtr version
Why? What are the pros and cons of this card and how does it compare to other versions?
Planning to get a new PC after the """"""christmas sale"""""" prices drop and i want a 1060 6G, RX480 or RX470.

>>57865894
Why not just get a 1070 at that point?

>>57865608

DX11

On release (July 2016), the GTX1060 was around 12% and 8% better than RX480 in 1080P and 1440P. Now (Dec 2016), the GTX1060 is 2% and 0% better than RX480 in 1080P and 1440P.

DX12

On release (July 2016), the GTX1060 was around 3% and 4% worse than RX480 in 1080P and 1440P. Now (Dec 2016), the GTX1060 is 6% and 6% worse than RX480 in 1080P and 1440P.

you read the article, yet you're still asking the question?

the clear answer is the 480

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AYO SOMEONE WAS TALKING SHIT ABOUT GIGABYTE
and I'm curious to why it's shit

>>57865908
Not worth it. I only want a dedicated GPU for 3 monitors (work/college) and some 1080p/60Hz gaming when i have time.
I don't really want to invest more than 300€ for the GPU, i'd rather invest the money in a 6600K or 6700K or maybe Zen if it turns out to not be shit.

>>57866076
37.2dB coil whine at high load

>>57866331
Just noise?

which one is the best value for an i5 3570 non k?

>inb4 get a cheaper shitter brand of 470 or 1060

i prefer dual fans for good cooling. the 1050 ti apparently doesn't get hot at all anyway hence why the single fan is ok.

http://www.ebuyer.com/755011-powercolor-radeon-rx-470-red-devil-4gb-gddr5-dual-link-dvi-d-hdmi-3x-axrx-470-4gbd5-3dh-o

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nda-18-8-palit-geforce-gtx-1060-dual-3gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-1152-core-1506mhz-gpu-1708mhz-

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/zotac-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-mini-4gb-gddr5-graphics-card-768-core-1303mhz-gpu-1417mhz-boost

all 3 of these seem to be the best bang for buck models with good cooling and performance out of the box.

would be playing games like civ 6, overwatch, tomb raider (2016), forza horizon 3, dishonored 2 at 1080p.

>>57866531
Get the 1060

is Palit a good brand?

>>57865561
I need a case. Currently using a Mini-ITX card in a full size ATX case. Sure feels empty. Its cover is also missing. So pls, cases pls.

>>57866955
Lian Li PC-Y6B

>>57866995
A fucking ship? Really?

I'm moving my current ATX system back to my old ITX system. Here's what I have so far (all parts I currently have). What's the best cooler I can fit in the 250D and what's the cheapest 1TB SSD I can cram in there?

>>57867021
forgot link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zkqzhq

>>57867018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?N=100007583%20600006318&IsNodeId=1&Submit=ENE
Finding a fucking case is matter of taste. Only two things to keep in mind. Gpu length and cpu cooler height.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pdJ4Yr
How does my build look?

socket 1151 MSI B150M MORTAR
Intel Core i5-6400, Quad Core, do 3.30GHz
DDR4 memorija 8GB
1TB SATA3 disk
SSD 120GB
MSI nVIdia GeForce GTX 960, 2GDDR5
Cooler Master Silencio 452, 500W 80+

>>57867086
GPU will be a cute one, PSU will be modular. Just find a fucking one, I don't want any gaymen shit.

>>57867180
Most of these cases have functional design...

>>57867102
Get a 240GB SSD, they are more cost effective, and maybe another case fan. Rest looks reasonable.

>>57865561
Any decent cute cards for my 250d?

>>57866331
Know any 1070 gpu without coil whine?

>>57867325
Cards up to 290mm fit in there so price?

any amd i3 6100 equivalent?

>>57867545
A10-7890K with an overclock

>>57867506
$400 or a bit more

I see that the Asus strix 1070 should fit

>>57866414

noise bugs my gf, so it whines then she does.

>>57866076
Because they paid more for an EVGA winter warmer and now they're mad they didn't get the cheap goybyte that don't explode

>>57866201
If your 3 monitors are actually for work/college then you don't need a gpu at all, maybe like a gtx240

>>57866331
>>57867438
My gigabyte 1070 isn't very loud at all, I mean it is the loudest thing in my computer but it's not fucking 37 decibels
A low quality fan would be louder than my gigabyte 1070 at max load (I have the two-fan version though)

>>57867574
>298x134x40mm
Uhm you sure?
EVGA FTW or if you want dem three coolers a Gigabyte G1 would be safe.

>>57867692
Wouldn't a blower style be best for this case?

>>57867683
>>57866331
Also if you're talking about your own gigabyte gpu and not what you read online, check if there's still plastic shit on the fan blades/heatsink, I found some little plastic strips hiding back there making noise

>>57867647
>gtx240
>and some 1080p/60Hz gaming when i have time
Thanks but i doubt the GTX240 will be usefull for anything gaymen whatsoever.
Still kinda in between getting the 6700K and no GPU for now or 6600K / 6500 and something like a RX470/480 or 1060 6G.

>>57867730
If those are your options, I'd say get the 6600k and a 480/1060
The 470 is good, especially for the price but it's a definitive step below the 480/1060
The 480 and 1060 are way too similar to recommend one without some kind of bias. If DX12 optimization becomes better on AMD than Nvidia (seems like it will, but I can't imagine why, maybe moar cores is finally relevant now) then the 480 would be better because DX12 is without a doubt better than DX11

>>57867730
Or a 6700k and a 470 if you feel like you'd eventually get an i7 anyways, you'd be pretty much set until you feel like going up in resolution/Hz
The big point is don't buy a CPU that you're gonna replace anytime soon, high-end Intel CPUs just don't go bad

>>57867683
>>57867719
Do you own a G1?

>>57867683
Thinking about getting 3 fan one

>>57867867
No I have windforce oc, with only two fans
But I mean I went with gigabyte because it was the cheapest, if I was going for a 1070 with high end heatsink I might've looked into other brands more
But at 2GHz and 2Fans, it's never gone above 60°

>>57867785
480 is the better choice.
Look at pic related in >>57865751 & >>57865783

>>57867987
Yeah but there's also a lot of gpu politics going on, when the difference comes down to less than 5%, and when the 5% advantage bounces back and forth from brand to brand, the deciding factor might come down to what's on sale, or what brand-shilled game you're mostly playing
They're both great, I agree that the card with better DX12 optimization is the way to go, but really neither is a bad choice (except the 3GB 1060)

>>57868035
They benched like 20 games for the average fps.

>>57868035
And also the clocks and coolers of these cards could make the difference between what's "better", and that really just makes it a choice between what's on sale

>>57868060
I know, and it's painstakingly equal, other than AMD games doing better on AMD cards and nvidia games doing better on nvidia cards, they're really fucking equal
The 1060/480 has been argued over since they came out, both have pathetic advantages over each other and insignificant disadvantages, it's the most competitive gpu rivalry out right now

>>57867785
>>57867813
Thanks guys. The i7 would be for work/college. Since my old i7 PC gave up i'm stuck with my i5-4200U chinknovo, which absolutely sucks.
The new PC should be enough until after college & master degree (probably 3-4 years) when i get a job. My "problem" is that my inner jew tells me to buy a <900€ PC.
Do you guys think a 6500 will be enough to run a VM and/or Jetbrains IDEs for light/medium work for 4 years? If so, i'll probably stick with a 6500 + RX480 4G for the next 4 years.
That combo usually goes for 400-420€ here in Germany.

>>57868060
And any random sale makes the entire statistic completely inaccurate and useless, nobody needs to spend $270 on a 480

>>57865561
I'm buying the new Titan X (Pascal) next month can't wait!!

>>57868146
If you'reactually serious, the 1080ti that comes out in a few months will literally be a Titan XP for around $800-ish

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>Video Game Console Assembly General

Say fellas, is this any good for gaming?

AMD FX-4300 3,80GHz,AMD 970/SB950,2x8GB DDR3 1600MHz,AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB,SSD 256GB,DVD±RW DL,10/100/1000 Mbit,Midi Tower 500W

>>57868202
The 460 struggles in some new games at max 1080p, 470 might be worth looking into
How much can you get that CPU+motherboard for?

>>57867982
Coilwhine is a G1 issue

>>57868181
what

>>57868142
In my country the 1060 is about 25$ more expensive.

>>57867706
I can't say for sure, the 250D is pretty big as far as ITX cases go honestly, and the gpu panel looks like it has fine airflow, a multi-fan card would definitely be better for your gpu but might dump a little heat into the case. You're getting a watercooler though, right? As long as you're not using hot-ass M2 SSDs and have good fans you should be fine with a normal multi-fan card

>>57868202
smells like prebuilt shit

>>57868259
Then get the 480, 4GB is enough VRAM for what the 480 is capable of too

>>57868234
>what
Just ignore it. It's either a sad and autistic retard or a bot.

>>57868233
>>57868293

It is prebuilt shit. All around it's 792 dollars or so. Beggars can't be choosers tho', it's the only shop where I can buy something, so I wanted to check if it was worth it.

>>57868280
>>57867706
I'd say if you have a cool-running CPU like a newer skylake or a locked CPU you're fine with the normal multi-fan GPU, but if you're getting worried about CPU/motherboard temps at all then you should get a blower. But I assume if your watercooler is good and you're not using an X99 motherboard or something with M2s on the back it won't matter

>>57868397
$800 can get you a LOT more than that prebuilt

>>57867706
Just for reference, I have a 6600K overclocked at 4.2GHz with a basic $20 hyper 212 cooler, rarely see it above 50°
My 1070 overclocked to 2GHz on the other hand, even with two fans, regularly gets up near 60°
Neither is very hot, but the GPU is definitely hotter than my CPU, even with a weak CPU cooler, so I'd rather have better GPU cooling

How good is an SSD based RAID 0 array? Was thinking about grabbing another 850 Evo to try it, but it would only be for general OS use and occasional media production.

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Z-SSD WHEN?

>>57868557
>but it would only be for general OS use and occasional media production.
No difference in day-to-day use. The only real benefit is in large sequential writes, but even that's marginal because there is a throughput bottleneck on the SATA controller on the chipset.
You'll need a hardware RAID to bypass that limitation and those cost in the $500 range.

>>57868557
Depending on the memory controller chip in the SSD, they usually scale really well and you can often reap all the benefits of raid with SSDs, unlike HDDs
Whether or not it's worth it is up to you, in my opinion good SSDs are already fucking fast

>>57868605
2-drive raid can easily be handled by Z170/H170 even at max SATA throughput, and the benefits scale in a lot more ways than just sequential (although I think it's random read/write that doesn't get as much of a boost, still benefits though)
Just hope a drive doesn't fail

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>>57868280
>>57868280
>>57868421
I've got an h100i v2 in there currently, had to drill holes in case over the weekend to fit the radiator.

Replaced the msi 1070 with a Strix 1070 for the extra vertical clearance.

Hoping the cables won't get in the way of the intake air that needs to travel to those fans for exhaust. Also had to remove the Strix shroud to fit that in. The guy at the store told me it would fit.

>>57868718
Two striped 850 EVOs will only reach about 800MB/s peak writes and 1000MB/s peak reads. The controller inside the SSD is part of the issue, but the SATA controller inside Intel's chipsets still aren't suited for RAIDing SSDs.

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>>57868752
Two drives can easily be handled, it's three and more where you start seeing diminishing returns without a raid card
Even last gen chipsets could do two-drive raid 0 without losing any time

>>57868752
>two 850 evos will only be twice the speed of an 850 evo
What did he mean by this?

>>57868861
You can get past the 1000MB/s limit for both reads and writes on a proper hardware RAID card.

>>57868871
You can do that with H170 and good enough SSDs, the chipset is not the problem when it comes to two SATA drives, even saturated SATA

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>>57868871
But you can't get past 500MB/s read/write on a single 850 evo?
What satanic magic created your raid card?

>>57868923
LSI has a RAID card that actually increases the scaling of striped drive between 100-105%. It has its own battery back up too.

>>57868871
You can get past 2000MB/s on Z170. You need like 6 fucking drives in raid 0 but it is possible and it is all through the chipset

>>57869078
>You can get past 2000MB/s on Z170
Nope. I tried putting three 480GB OCZ Vector 180s in striped mode and only got 1200MB/s sequential read and 900MB/s write.

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i ordered this
i dont play a lot of vidya other than dotes
i-is it good

>>57869111
Six is more than three.

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>>57869111
So you got over 1000MB/s using chipset raid?

>>57869136
Not for write speed.

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is there even a case that allows this

>>57869173
Silverstone Raven

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>>57869173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZoX7glIAS4

my 270x died
fix how?
no gpu baking pls

>>57869114
Perfectly fine for moba's and retro gaming.

>>57869280
You need to bake it at 420° (Fahrenheit obviously) for 69 minutes to recharge it for another year or so

>>57869377
my whole family died baking gpus

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>>57869439
>they forgot to leave the fans on while baking their gpu

>>57868397
For that price, it's absolutely NOT worth it.

Since I'm unemployed right now I've been piecing together a build buying parts when I can. Looking for advice on what the cheapest case & PSU I could put with these but not so cheap it will catch fire. I don't care about "future expansion" as I will replace thing when I start working again, I literally just want to get up and running asap. I plan on getting a GTX 1060 3gb eventually as I'm only in 1080p, I'll just be using the iGPU in the mean time. UK/Europe deals only pls.

CPU: i3 6100
MB: Gigabyte Z170-GAMING
Ram: Crucial Balliztix 8gb DDR4
SSD: 256gb Samsung

>>57869818
>budget i3 PC
>Z170-GAMING
>256 Samsung Pro SSD
Nice meme, anon.

>>57869860

What's wrong with any of those? The MB and SSD were gotten cheap over Black Friday. CPU is probably underpowered but its a decent price/performance level.

>>57870018
How much did you pay? Because neither of those parts are even close to budget anything.

>>57870103

£85 ($100) for the motherboard, think it was about £60 ($75) for the SSD. Remember these are good deals for UK prices, we get 20% sales tax on everything.

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Something happened to my last computer so I've thinking about finally building a new one so I can play some games like Total War and The Witcher, but I'm kind of a poorfag at the moment. Got any tips or recommendations to start my friends?

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>>57870433
You need a nvidia 1080 and an i5 with hyperthreading for witcher, at least

>>57870203
You bought a new Z170 mobo for under 85 and a new 256 Samsung Pro 60? How is that even possible?

>>57870453
Why does the "256gb Samsung SSD" keep changing names

>>57865561
>goto buy 1060
>all of them are sold out except shit one


now i gotta dish out 60$ extra i didn't want to for a 1070 for fucksake

>>57870433
Start by looking into the links in the OP.

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>>57870453
Yeah that's weird, that's almost low enough to be normal American prices

>>57870481
>$60
Holy shit, how much were you about to just spend on a fucking 1060?
You should be thankful

>>57870503
260, and was going to get a new kb/mouse wit it, so another 100$~

mouse/kb i have is like 4 years old, but I can still use it for a few years, so i'll just dish-out for the 1070

man my 1080p gaming is going to be hardcore as fuck.

Overclocking my 1060 worth it y/n? Will games get buggy even if it's a stable OC?

>>57870658
If it's buggy it's not stable.
The 10-series gpus also don't overclock super well because their boost clock design is already really good.
Either way, it's literally dragging a slider around and playing games until it stops being buggy so I don't see why you wouldn't

Im trying to put my pc together right now, first time builder. I have the 24 pins plugged into the mobo and everything powers, but when I plug into the atx12v port, it seems to be shorting out. Anybody else have this issue?

Will upgrading my PSU cause any compatibility problems (ex old PSU had a plug that the new one doesn't have)? I don't have a GPU that uses a power cable and am looking for a new PSU so I can upgrade my GPU later on.

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Even though they aren't poptart are they still compatible when building?

What was that Radeon(?) meme gpu with the satanic ritual looking thin on it. Been trying to find it. Pretty sure it's not the red devil.

>>57870453

Trolling deals on HUKD and /r/buildapcsalesuk across Black Friday/Cyber Monday. The motherboard is currently 99 on Amazon so it wasn't a huge saving, the SSD was a Prime or flash deal.

>>57871057
Red Dragon.

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Hey guys. Just did my first build since 2010 and installed the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo. Followed instructions but it looks half cocked. Is it supposed to look like this? Center pin looks askew. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>>57865651
mein nigga

>>57870433
U S E D P A R T S
like your waifu

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Rate?

>>57870714
Did you make sure everything is plugged in? I forgot to plug in the cable from the psu labeled cpu when I did my first build.

>>57871488
>above 1 monitor and two GPUs
>not using passtrough in that case
>3GB 1060 meme

>>57871366
No, nigger no!
That's not right at all!

What games can this old ass card run? I plan on putting it in an old prebuilt for emulators/ media and maybe older games. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102805

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>>57871533
Fixed it!

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what fans do you fags use for your exhaust?

>>57871599

Why would you buy this. If you're building a cheap machine just use the integrated graphics of your processor.

>>57871366
Is the pin that locks the position inside the little cutout? Also I twisted that center screw down (poking the screw from both sides) until it was snug

>>57871756
Didn't buy it, salvaged it from a "dead" pc.

>>57871659
High airflow corsair meme fans, but not $20-a-fan memey like noctuas

>budget 250ish
>1080p
>120hz

RX 480 4GB

or

GTX 1060 6GB

If I fit a gtx 1050ti on pcie 2.0, how much decrease in performance will I experience?

>>57871972
PCIe 2.0 what?

Unless it's x4 or lower, we're talking about a few percent at most.

>>57871659
Two of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA30R3Y41374

>>57871972
I guarantee none if it's at least x8

>>57872006
>>57872025
X16

>>57871488
>3gb 1060
Not gonna lie that's pants on head retarded. At least you got dubs.

>>57872052
Basically no loss of performance at all

>>57872062
I got it for $190, (Was originally $210, had a $10 gift card and a $10 mail in rebate.)

>>57872074
Thanks anon. I was going to but new mobo for 3.0

i5 6600K
212 EVO
Gainward GTX1070 8GB
MSI Z170-A PRO
Crucial MX200 250GB
cheapest 2x8GB DDR4 memory (corsair?)
ECGA 650W Supernova 650GQ
Corsair Carbide 200R

Around 1150 yurops. Yay or nay? I'm wiling to pay more for case if it has the same minimalistic look, and motherboard if it's worth it.

My 6700k alone can play GTA V at 1600x900 with high textures at 30fps stable with half vsync.
Do you think it can also play the witcher?

I'm surprised how good these integrated graphics are. I now don't think its worth getting a low/mid range dedicated video card just to get 30 more fps. Might go f a 1080ti and a good monitor now.

>>57872191
I don't know about monopoly money but that's sounds like a good amount of burgerbucks for that

>>57872222
yeah, euro prices are fucked up compared to dollar ones

>>57872209
>Do you think it can also play the witcher?
Lol nope.

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>>57872222
>>57872368
I won't even include the price of 144Hz IPS 1440p g-sync screen

>>57871527
I think so. My psu is a modular rosewill. Cpu gets plugged into the slot thats shorting everything out...right?

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Hello, I am a rookie to building a new desktop and I was suggested to come here for more advice/suggestions on this build from another thread I made earlier. Questions i have. I don't believe I need a water cooling system. Do I have proper fans though and is the case appropriate or more for a water cooling system? I don't believe I will be OC'ing, although I would like to play some of the latest games with atleast mid range resolution, am I doing alright? Please let me know what you think of this build so far, I would like to avoid making rookie mistakes. My Budget is 1500 , including the monitor and all. thnx.

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
CPU: i56600K (skylake)
HSF: NH-U12S
Motherboard: GigabyteZ170X-UD5
RAM: 16GBDDR4
HDD: 1TB
SSD: 240GB
Power Supply: 212 EVO
Case: Storm Striker.

>>57871955
Read the topic man.

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>>57872417
>1500 dollar computer
>not a 1080

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>>57872417
>Power Supply: 212 EVO

>>57872537
1080 vs 1070, the 1080 is 200 more for only a 12% increase in benchmarks. You could sli it with 2 1070s and only spend 200 more than a 1080.

>>57872417
>Power Supply: 212 EVO
this one of those makeshift wind turbine /diy/ power sources?

>>57872557
212 EVO works just fine on an i56600k

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>>57872404
That's like $5-20 more per item but that's surprisingly close to what I paid for my thing, basically the same pc

>>57872417
If you're not planning on overclocking, drop the Z chipset and K CPU and maybe get a 1080 or a bigger SSD instead.

>>57872417
Should check out PCpartpicker.
Also, check this out
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fJ9D7h

>>57872404
sweet 19% MwSt innit

>>57872669
No cash for the monitor..

>>57872593
It's not a power supply though.

>>57872784
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6WQcc

What's a good place to buy used parts from?

>>57872784
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yCRYr

Fixed, mouse and keyboard too.


>>57872899
Ebay

>>57872899
Walmart parking lot.

>>57872907
>overkill PSU
>overcill CPU cooler
>wireless laser mouse

>>57872952
There's always room to upgrade.

>>57872907
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yCRYr

You think a 212 EVO cooler would do the trick?

>>57872191
nope, actually you're very fine for gaming. if you plan to do lots of photo video editing or rendering, you might want to go for the i7 6700K for the hyperthreading. but if you plan it for gaming only, the cpu is just fine.

The motherboard is ok too, you can OC, if you do not plan to add a 2nd graphics card later. otherwise you'd like to go with a Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI or any other that allows nvidia SLI.

RAM is also fine, just be sure to install it in the dual channel setup.

I am just planing that build right now:
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Intel Core i7 6700K BOX
Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI
HyperX Fury (2x, 8GB, DDR4-2133, DIMM 288)
Corsair VS650 (650W)
Corsair Carbide 200R

Only thing I have not ordered yet is the graphics card, I don't know which gtx 1070 to buy :/

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>>57872963
You don't need more than an NH-14S for an OC'd 6600K.

>>57873004
i made a thread earlier and the guy said he bought a gigabyte g1 1070 and was returning it for a refund... and... what the difference between the 1070s?

>>57872907
>>57872801
>>57872866


thank you

>>57872118
In my country the 1060 3gb is converted to muridonuts 180$ mate.

>>57872573
1070 is 12% performance increase over 480 for doubled shekels

is this a good build for digital design, 3d design/rendering, video editing?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/prison_rodeo/saved/CbsYJx

>>57873028

as far as I could find out, the
o) the clock speed: some cards are factory OC
o) the fans: some cards have two or three fans blowing hot air into the pc case, others have one fan, blowing the air out of the computer via slot bracket
the 1 fan cards doing so are recommended for OEM PC (if you you buy a prebuilt non-gamer pc) and plan to exchange a graphics card. for any other pc that has a reasonable air flow in the case 2/3 fans versions are fine
o) there is a so-called reference board, that is kind of the circuit board that the graphics chip manufacturer has in mind, and the then other producers have their own idea how it looks like.

i guess most important is, the chip is the same in any case, I guess their pretty the same.

>>57873150
Be honest with us honey. Cad doesn't include consumer cards but firepros or quadros.

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r8 my semi poverty build, any suggestions? Prices should be in €€€.

>>57873266
Looks good you could have done some better choices about your past purchases. There was a big sale in France regarding tech shit. For example a 525 gb mx300 was 90€ but w/e.

>>57873178
which would you reccomend for the rest of the build? what are your thoughts on maybe doing a evga geforce gtx 1080 sli?

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>>57873309
Thanks laddie, the already bought shit is actually salvaged from older PC(whose PSU gracefully died after like 6 years of use) and is like 1 year old so back then the 970 didn't seem like that bad of a choice.

I feel like I should maybe wait for Zen but I really have no faith in AMD and intel processors are really good anyway.

>>57873266
Looks good but there are cheaper cases and cheaper PSUs on the market.

https://youtu.be/gEw3CaNSbUo
>1060 and rx480 can do 1440p/60fps now
What's the point of the 1070 again?

Looking for some case fans.

Any non-meme recommendations or advice on what to look for?

>>57873555
Fractal's are pretty good for the price.

>>57873555
>>57873580
I have 6 140mm Silent Series R2/R3 in my case and they're pretty much silent on the lowest setting and barely noticeable (depending on other background noise) in the medium setting. I'd recommend them if you plan on having enough fans so that you don't need to run any of them at full RPM.

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>>57873555
have you considered buying one of these? they are pretty cheap by now in many countries as they are heavily subsidised by some govs.

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>>57873663
check out my wind farm

>>57873170
Blower cards tend to have worse temps but they don't dump any heat into the case, important for ultra tiny PC's but normal multiple fan cards are better in most cases

>>57873178
Something like the 1080 is actually very good for OpenGL graphical design, and insanely good price/performance compared to other cards. Hell, even a Titan XP is just as good for cad (minus the tons of ECC VRAM) as the highest-end Quadro right now

>>57873387
A Titan woudl draw the line between cad and consumer purposes. Dual gpu setups aren't worth. Lookup what kind of Quadro you'd get for the money. Do you need that much VRAM? Do you need more data bandwidth? Maybe a much lower specced Quadro with optimised drivers for your purposes is the better bang for your bucks.

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>>57873663
I was planning on it but I think I've decided I'll just go water cooled

>>57873412
Well then it's fine. Lower budget zen won't be out until second half of 2017 the wait isn't worth imo. Maybe it is for you. But having no desktop sucks.

>>57873751
Will that model still be available in California in a couple of years? I don't think it's future-proof.

>>57873751
That's doesn't replace case fans nigger
And don't watercool unless you absolutely need to, and at that point make a loop yourslef

>>57873726
That might be true I didn't look up 1080 reviews for these purposes. You're totally right about the second part. With Titans Nvidia tries to get both things into one card. The 6k Quadro just has the massive amount of VRAM going for it. It gets the same render times as a Titan for small projects.

>>57873781
Are you retarded? Have you become so jaded you can no longer recognize a joke?

>>57873794
1080ti is gonna be the same chip as the Titan XP, same ram I believe too
Estimated at over $800 tho

I'm trying to find 2x8GB DDR3 1333 MHz PC3-10600 Sodimm (for my thinkpad)

why the fuck does it cost around $100? what am I doing wrong?

>>57874001
33-50% more expensive than regular DIMMs because people looking to upgrade laptops are generally limited in their options and the demand for aftermarket laptop memory is probably smaller.

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>>57874001
Do you need it to be brand-name?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007609%20600564397%20601190332%20600213067&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

>>57874147
no, it doesn't need to be a brand, I have checked newegg, imo those prices are still very expensive for 16gb. but I guess that's because of >>57874090

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$387 CYBER MONDAY STEAMBOX
>shipping, discounts, codes & mail-in-rebates included

^_^

>$95 -- AMD A10-7860K with AMD quiet cooler Quad-Core Socket FM2+ 65W AD786KYBJCSBX Desktop Processor AMD Radeon R7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113404

>$29 -- BIOSTAR Hi-Fi A70U3P FM2+ / FM2 AMD A70M SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138415

>$92 -- Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 UDIMM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Memory Model 997125F
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226615

>$114 ($57x2) -- HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 HUS724030ALE641 (0F17731) 3TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA III 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive -- REFURBISHED -- x2 (RAIDed pair)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1Z4-001J-00224

>$19 -- Thermaltake Smart Series 600W SLI / CrossFire Ready Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply Haswell Ready PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153232

>$29 -- Fractal Design Core 1100 Black MATX Mini Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352039

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>>57874189
>Biostar

>>57865561
bought this shitty pc and i'm looking to upgrade the graphics card and or cpu
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230030
looking to buy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133642 and or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117561 i mainly play WoW and csgo

>>57874189
I guess?
A $400 computer could have a gpu, but I don't know how good that APU is. There's no upgrade path without scrapping the mobo and CPU either.
I mean it's like $300 minimum for a computer that can open a game's menu. With that, you're not gonna be cranking settings too high, but if it can run games for $400 then it's really not that bad of a deal

>>57874189
>>57874285
I'm assuming Steambox means it's supposed to stream games from a more pwoerful machine but who knows with the confusing terminology of Steam machines that don't actually run Steam OS.

>>57874189
I have no words
>>57874284
that cpu probably wont fit the existing motherboard and would be an overkill anyway

>>57874451
>>57874284
also if you actually bought that for 400$ then I'm gonna be a little bit depressed

>>57874494
I did, I regret it so I will be building my pcs for now on

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>>57874343
Uh, *almost* that -- it's basically a nice, relatively quiet, cool, efficient and capable standalone machine hooked up as an all-in-one computer with an emphasis on running games published by Valve on Steam.
>here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_box

>>57874285
An APU like this A10 Godavari (a.k.a.: "Kevari-Refresh") are shown to run modern AAA titles at frame-rates above 24fps @1080 on low quality (and older titles like CS:GO at about 40fps on high or 60fps on medium or 100fps on low).

>mfw planning on playing everything at slightly higher quality on a 720p 32" Samsung TV purchased on Black Friday for $95.

>>57874222
>ebin trips

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>mfw MSI Z170A SLI PLUS just arrived

What are you guys waiting for/just received?

>>57874189
>>57874539
So you spent console money to get console performance...

>>57867545
A8-7600, sacrifice the cpu power for a better igpu and spend money on beer. wait for am4

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I just finished upgrading from a GTX760 to the one I will list below today, along with replacing my 2TB HDD with what's below.

Windows 10 64bit Pro
ASUS z-87A Motherboard
2x8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Corsair (Will be 32GB in about a week)
i7 4770K Quad Core 3.9Ghz (At Auto-Turbo) - Obligatory Intel CPU fan included
GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX (Not the overpriced pos OC edition either, I'll just overclock it on my own)
2TB 850 EVO SSD - 540MB/s Read - 520MB/s Write
Thermaltake 750 Watt PSU
Corsair 300r Windowed
4 120mm Thermaltake Silent Fans

I can't fit all of my setup in the picture without going through the wall behind me, you will just have to imagine what got cut off.

>>57874451
whats a good cpu that will fit it?

>>57874669
I think that cpu is "basically" fine, i'd get a better video card.

>>57874665
Good on you for not falling for the Goylake-DDR4 meme.

Hey guys,

Thinking of getting a 1050 TI because my chink power supply only has molex cables (no 6/8 pins) and apparently using a molex-to-6pin is dangerous or unstable.

Would this be enough to run rising storm 2 really well when it comes out? Or should I just risk it with the molex to 6pin and get something better?

>>57874825
What is "really well" for you? High settings? Maximum settings? 30 FPS? 60 FPS? 1080p? 1440p?

Getting a new decent power supply in addition to a more powerful card is probably an extra hundred bucks, but it's a safety investment.

>>57874665
>Z87
>Intel factory cooler
>1080 with a full HD screen (why nigga?)
>850 EVO for dat overpriced TLC

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>>57874771
>mfw last generation CPU's are 30% more expensive than skylake equivalents
back to >>>/pol/

>>57874919
I don't need anything more than a Z87 and I have already had this motherboard for almost 3 years, I didn't feel like upgrading it.

I have had no cooling problems with the factory cooler and it has worked fine for the past 3 years.

I don't feel like spending 800+ on the 4K meme, and I already had the 1080p Monitor on the far right so I just got two more for less than 250 total. I am fine with 1080p at 60, I really don't care for much higher until the price drops.

I got the EVO for sub 600 on Cyber monday. The 2TB version has the same GB/Dollar ratio as the 1TB version so I decided to have a little future proofing.

I have saved up for the upgrades I got for quite a while. I have not the money to get anything else atm.

>>57875028
>i7 4790K $340
>i7 6700K $340
>i5 4690K $240
>i5 6600K $240

>>57874871
I'd like solid 60fps in 1080p, I've never had anything better than laptop gpus and a 6950.

I'd like to do the power supply thing but honestly I don't know how to hook it up to the motherboard and do everything like that/if it's compatible or not

Is there any reason I shouldn't put all my data into a NAS and run a single SSD in a mini ITX case?

>>57875062
>paying the same price for worse efficiency and 5-10% worse performance
wew

uh what do you guys think? be harsh if you must

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM 64-bit
Monitor: Asus PB278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor

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>>57875095
>Microsoft Windows

>>57875084
As long as the PSU conforms to the ATX standard and is reasonably powerful, it's going to have all the required connectors (24-pin ATX for the motherboard, 8-pin for the CPU also on the motherboard, a bunch of SATA and also 6(+2)-pin PCI-E connectors).

>>57875091
>goalposts on wheels

>>57875183
>Eating 1kg of shit is not as bad as eating 5kg's of shit.
heh
well memd ma senpai

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>>57875028
>back to >>>/pol/
Fuck off, faggot.

>>57875154
Feel very retarded, but what are the absolute essential cables for a Gigabyte H110M-S2H motherboard? So it just has to conform to ATX standards?

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>>57875327
24 pin (bottom right)
4+4/8 pin for CPU (top right)
SATA power cables
PCI-E power cables (at least an 8/6+2 pin and a 6 pin)

ATX standard isn't just about motherboard size but also about making sure power supplies that fit into these cases also actually work with the boards in them.

>>57875418
thank you so much anon

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>>57875152
>buying the pooey microjew

>>57866050
I love this meme. Let me guess you got your source from a Pajeet using a $900 CPU to hide the overhead right?

Here is the reality:

- July 2016 480RX 4GB was competing with OCed 970 gtx

- 480RX non-ref cards are competing with stock 1060 GTX FE.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xQmstJ

First PC build and using a processor I already have I had to make things fit. Being in Australia my options are somewhat limited, but will this all work?

Sorry if somethings bullshit retardedly picked or something.

>>57865561
My power supply is 500w, my GPU is the Geforce GTX 970 FTW, which is "minimum req 500w power supply".
When the GPU is not in my pc, pc runs perfectly well, the second I plug it in and do a clean install of drivers, it starts crashing randomly.
Is it because my PSU is the bare minimum, or because my GPU is defective?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VGKrRG
Do you think this is good enough?

PS. In Mexico, shit gets expensive real fast

h-hi anons, I'm currently looking to pop my PC-building cherry and I have a question.

When ordering parts is there anything else out of the ordinary I might need for the building part? Stuff like extra cables, buttons, thermal paste special screwdrivers or some shit

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>>57877466
sometimes cpus dont come with a stock fan and maybe cpu coolers dont come with thermal adhesive... but thats why you check whats included when buying. Magnetic screwdrivers sure do come in handy though

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>>57877466
RGB LED Lights everywhere
And don't forget UV-reactive cable extensions

>>57877214
Underclock the card, underclock and undervolt your CPU, and see if the system becomes stable.

Which has better performance:

6700k + GTX 1080

or

6800k + GTX 1070

?

Is this a good budget build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>57877612
Even a 2600k with a 1080 would outperform a 6800k with a 1070, unless a specific game was VERY CPU limited.

>>57865561
ASUS 1060 vs Sapphire 480. First reply decides what I buy.

>>57877830
1060 just to make everyone else mad

>>57877708
You posted the wrong URL.

It's the URL in the box dummy.

>>57877830
480

>>57877466
Maybe some fan splitters

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tV9Ym8

will I have any issues with this motherboard? more specifically, will this motherboard bottleneck any of my hardware?

>>57878821
Mobo won't bottleneck anything man.

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My motherboard is losing power as of late. It's odd because the system will crash, i'll get a black screen, but everything seems to be on (except for the motherboard). It appears that the issue is the PSU connection, two of the 8 prongs look like they burned out or something (it's just the connections not the plastic covers). If I 'wiggle' the connection around the motherboard seems to get power again and my PC will run for a random amount of time before crashing again.

You think this is just a connection issue (therefore fixed by just getting a new PSU) or do you think my motherboard is frying out?

>>57878857
thanks

>>57878821
B150 can only do 2133mhz ram

>>57878930
I am aware of that, but from what I've learned it won't negatively effect my performance too much. At least not a noticeable amount. Is this true?

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About to buy one of these for CAD $500 (may be able to get it for less).

Good deal or scam?

MSI GL72
>i7 6700HQ
>8GB DDR4
>1TB 7200 rpm
>GTX950M

I don't plan to do almost any gaming. I want a reliable, powerful laptop. I'm sick of my laggy shitty HP.

Would this one be good as a daily work-study laptop for a power user? I'm scared it might be too big and too gaming-focused.

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I have an old condenser mic, should I use that and my HD598's (open back) or buy a headset?

>>57878969
It won't matter because the motherboard will just run it at 2133mhz because the mobo is is what's cycling the frequency

>>57878974
I'd say a bit overkill for work-study, but for that price looks too good to be true.
Are you getting it used?

>>57879058
Yes, its used.
I think its overkill and big too but I think the price is really good too so I might just sell it later for like $800+.

>>57879058
Remember that's not a 6700k and that's not a normal 950

>>57879058
Also I've never had experience with gaming computers.

How's the reliability/durability of the components?

I'm scared that the GPU or the high-rpm HDD might shit the bed sooner than expected.

>>57879099
Generally the durability is pretty good if the laptop can dissipate heat efficiently.

Also you should replace the HDD for a SSD, it is a noticeable leap.

That's if you pull the trigger of course.

>>57879148
I think the laptop has two HDD/SSD slots so it would be easy to swap to an SSD.

If I grab it for 480CAD would it be a good deal?

>>57879179
The canadollar isn't strong, I'd say it's a decent deal

>>57865671
Drop two predators, swap for regular 1440p monitors, and upgrade to dual titans

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>>57879179
Of fucking course!
With that price you could get an i3 Laptop.

>tfw no good deals in tacoland

>>57865561

The pastebin says nothing, I have windows 10 and I'm planning to build a new system, I know that windows 10 is tied to your hardware so I will need to pirate it when I build my new PC, is there an easy execute and wait activator like there was with W7 or will I have to do more cryptic shit?

Is this a good time to build a PC from scratch? Price wise I mean.

>>57879664
What's your total budget? The only things dropping even remotely "soon" are AMD's Zen CPUs which are supposed to be around Haswell/Broadwell performance & Vega GPUs to fight Nvidia's 1000 series.

>>57879701
900-1000€

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>>57879715
Just the system or monitor too?

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-event-december-13/
I would say we'll know something mid-December during AMD's conference about their CPU/GPU release dates and use that to judge how long and whether to wait or not.

If it's going to be like late February or March then I'd not wait and target a buy around the weeks of Christmas/New Years since that's when sales will probably be best. If, as has been rumored they are going to launch during CES which is Jan. 3-8 then you may hold off to see pricing reacts.

poorfag here

I will be buying some new game for my console and new gamepad for pc... so i have like 25 USD leftover money, and i would like to upgrade my toaster a little bit... I will be buying used parts, so it will be little cheaper...

>my toaster specs
>CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4000+ 2.10GHz
>GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 1GB
>RAM: 4GB
>Power source not sure... there is some max output 245W

I know its ancient machine, so you can laugh, but what should I upgrade if I want to play some mmos? Im usualy playing PSO2, and this toaster can run it pretty well, so Im ok with it, but any small upgrade will help, so Im using my left over money...

I actually found this graphic card for 25 USD, but im not sure if its better than my current one
>Zotac GeForce210 PCI-E 1024MB DDR3
Also, I have around 1 hour until this offer ends, and Im not sure if I should upgrade CPU or GPU?

But of course im open to any other suggestions.

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>>57880077
these are my specs if it will help

>>57880108
>>57880077
When you are upgrading from so far back and are looking at used GPUs across multiple generations this is a good site of archival specs/benches to check:
http://gpuboss.com/

I found a used HD7470 which runs off of bus power which should crush the 210:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-VVYN4-AMD-Radeon-HD7470-Video-Card-1GB-DP-LP-PCIe-x16-/182378265636
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7470-vs-GeForce-210

I'll keep looking.

>>57880205
Oh yeah also check hwbech.com as well:
http://hwbench.com/vgas/geforce-210-vs-radeon-hd-7470-oem

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>>57880205
>>57880220
thank you, i will check it...
and i could also get this one

>ASUS AMD EAH4850 1GDDR3

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I want to upgrade. Should I go for the GPU or CPU first?

With zen around the corner would it be dumb to upgrade my cpu cooler now? I want something that can get my 4690k to at least 4.5ghz but if zen is good i might upgrade and thus i'm worried about compatibility.

>>57880313
Literally no point in upgrading your CPU atm. Just slap a 1070/1080 into your rig and you're golden - Or if you're an autistic /g/ neckbeard wait for 490. 480RX would be barely an improvement over heavily oced 970.

>>57880461
You have a 4690k. A fucking 4690k. Unless you actually need god knows how many cores for let's video rendering there is no need to upgrade. If you do - Remember that jumping to ZEN will cost you more than just the cpu itself, it's also a new mobo and probably ddr4 (could be wrong on that one, maybe they go for DDR3/4 support like Skylake did).

>>57880244
That's a great find and would destroy the 7470. I found an old GTX 460 SE which would beat it, but it uses PCI-E power cables.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GeForce-GTX-460-SE-/332048673001?hash=item4d4fa4a8e9:g:U9UAAOSw5cNYPnn5

Same story for an HD7770 which requires a single 6-pin PCI-E connector:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-Radeon-HD-7770-1GB-128Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-Video-Card-GV-R777OC-1GD-/162310988562?hash=item25ca7d2312:g:AXkAAOSw4GVYRwnK

That 4850 might be your best bet if you don't have a PSU capable of powering a discrete GPU. The 4850 is DX10 only while the 7470 is DX11 compliant (newer but weaker class gpu), but it's dubious whether it has enough horsepower to make a difference in semi-modern DX11 titles. Food for thought.

>>57880520
Hmm... ok thank you.
But i figured there is one problem... these ebay sellers are not shipping to my country, so i guess I will go with that 4850... but is it really that good in comparison to my current one?
My current one has like 550 MHz GPU Clock, and 4850 has 625 MHz... it doesnt look like so big step, but I dont understand all the details, so I may be wrong.

>>57880484
So you're saying an overclocked 970 is the same as a 1060?

>>57880606
Unless you're comparing the exact same chip, the clockrate is the LAST thing you should be looking at. Obviously it matters, but if GPU A is clocked at 500MHz and GPU B is clocked at 1000MHz, that does not mean A will perform worse than B if the two have different number of cores and different architecture.

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>>57880520
And I also found this one
>Gainward GeForce GT630 nVidia 1G DVI HDMI VGA PCIe

So what is better? but im not sure if it can fit to my MB...

>>57880624
I say that AMD shills on /g/ are vast in numbers and all their sources are always some biased Pajeets talking in broken English about benchmarks to irrelevant or just straight out bad games like Hitman or AoTS just because their favor AMD while using a $900 cpu to hide driver overhead. And yes a 1500Mhz core oced 970 GTX has the performance of a stock 980/480RX/1060 gtx. Thing is many people in here bought blower-style cheapest reference 480RX which can't oc for shit so comparing a stock 480RX to a non-reference 970 GTX is more than fair.

So I've fell for the AMD meme for years now, first time upgrading to intel, I currently have an FX 8350, was considering an I7 but I mostly use my PC for gaming and drawing, I don't render on 3d and shit like that and I was wondering if that's overkill.

Can anyone recommend a good mobo + intel cpu that will last me the current generation and beyond and is VR ready just in case I decide to try the VR meme?

>>57880606
>My current one has like 550 MHz GPU Clock, and 4850 has 625 MHz... it doesnt look like so big step, but I dont understand all the details, so I may be wrong.
Oh dear sweet child you are comparing 2 cards that aren't even in the same class. The 4850 was AMD's 2nd best card in 2008 and the 9500 GT was Nvidia's budget-tier.
http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-9500-gt-video-card-preview_760

>>57880669
http://hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-hd-4850-vs-geforce-gt-630-rev-2-pcie-x8
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-4850-vs-GeForce-GT-630
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/816/geforce-gt-630
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=24&cmp%5B%5D=1431

The 630 is a much much newer, more efficient GPU but it's such a cut-down card from Nvidia's product stack that the older HD4850 overpowers it by bruteforce.
The 4850 will always be at least double if not triple the performance of the 9500 GT

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>>57880845
Forgot my image.

>>57880845
>>57880853
Ok, I will go with 4850 then...
Thank you for help.

Would a mix between a server and gayman build sound like a bad idea?
I was thinking of using a low end xeon but also get a mid tier nvidia like a gt730. And also make it fanless ideally. I want to use it as a mid range server usually (to run LXC containers of web servers) but also play the vidya on downtime.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mcvM4C

This is something I started out with, haven't made a build for over 10 years though so it could be a really shit build.

>>57880752
>this whole post

>>57881000
>LGA1151
>server

>>57881000
>GT730
>mid-tier

>>57880752
Holy shit that was the most delusional Nvidia fanboyism shit I've ever read.

>>57881018
Well all i looked at were compatible parts so i don't know. I did say it's been a while.

>>57880976
NP, hope you enjoy it.

when it comes to nVIDIA, reminder that 1060 is a meme card and 1080 is overpriced
1070 is where its at

I just bought an Asus Strix 6gb 1060. How important is it to install additional fans in my case to ensure it doesn't burnout when in OC mode?

>>57881323
Check temps of the card. Generally speaking 3fans should be enough.

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Beginner here.
I've been upgrading my PC lately (which was pre-built, back in 2012), and just installed a new hard drive but noticed it got a bit warm after a few hours of having my computer on. I can see that there's a fan compartment behind it, but it looks a bit weird; there are already screws installed and they're protected by these metal things. Do they hold the front of the case to the body or something?

How important is it to have a fan cooling an HDD anyway? Should I even be worrying about this?

Used 7990 for $150 canadian

Worth it? I just want to play GTA maxed out at 1080p60 and apparently the 7990 is in the same bracket as a fury?

new thread??

>>57881745
Find a nice pic pick a theme and copy paste op changing the previous thread link. I'm currently on mobile.

>>57881625
>Considering a dual gpu for gaming
No

>>57881828
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/5788205657881745
>>57882056