/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for T430s >

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420s-120GB-SSD-4GB-RAM-Core-i5-2540M-2-6GHz-Win7-1600x900-91-/132017119779?hash=item1ebcd56223:g:cX0AAOSwB09YMUQX

Should I get this? It looks like a good deal but I'm not sure...

>1366x768

kek you niggers are such cucks.

>>57738961
>16:9
>cuck
pick two
4:3 masterrace reporting in

>>57738945
Looks good, it is an S so upgrades are going to be a pain, as are thermals.
A 120gb ssd might be limiting unless you either dont mind using alot of external storage or just dont use that much space

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What are recommended upgrades for a x201?

Does it make sense to install the Intel Management Engine firmware update? From its version history (pic related) it seems like it's mostly more features added to the AMT backdoor, for instance
>Added VeriSign RSA_SHA256 and Cybertrust Root Certificate hashes
Do these hashes enable more entities to make use of the backdoor?

Had anyone encountered problems after an upgrade of the regular BIOS of the x201? One person mentioned that after the upgrade the system started displaying an error on each boot requiring a key press to continue booting.

>>57738983
Is the heat really a problem on these ones? Like to the point where you wouldn't want it on your lap for long?

>>57739067
It will get hot as fuck like any laptop but because ita more compact the vents and heatsink are slightly smaller, so temps are going to be high and you might slowroast your balls
This also limits what you can upgrade to. Any higher tdp processor is going to be dramatically hotter

>>57739067
>>57739120
Never had any problems with heat on mine, first thing I did was repaste though.

>>57739216
Good to know. How is the battery life?

>>57739243
Crappy, had a battery with still 2/3 of original charge and I got 1.5 - 2 hours with half screen brightness. Recently upgraded to t430s which is much better. You could of course add an ultrabay battery but I didn't bother.

Got a W500 and the fuggin thing broke its case, the metal hinge has sheared and split the surrounding plastic. So much for ThinkPad build quality....

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First for Master Race.

>>57739311
RIP
My W530 has seen some heavy abuse in the past year and hasn't had any issues with build quality. It seems that the hinges are problematic for other people though (needing to be loosened or re-greased)

I have a T420, but I want Libreboot. Can I just swap mobos with a T400? Or is that asking for trouble, and I should just get a whole new machine?

New X260 shows up tomorrow. Should I even bother booting it for the first time into windows? Or should I just go directly into installing Linux?

>>57738897
Anybody has experience with used Thinkpads from companies?

There are a lot of them at eBay.

I'm running the latest Xubuntu on my x220 and I am having issues with waking up from suspend when I close my laptop lid. I will close it, then the moon icon will light up a few seconds later. I open it, enter my password, then it freezes up immediately. I have to force shutdown, I cannot do anything at all when it freezes.

Anyone else experience this with Ubuntu 16 on an x220? I can't find a solution anywhere and I'm starting to think its a thinkpad issue rather than a linux issue.

>>57739742
>New
Might as well boot into Windows, you've already missed the point.

>>57739785
As long as there is no BIOS password set, you should be fine.

>>57739825
u wot m8

linux works just fine on x260

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Is it worth to buy T530 for around 131 USD?
I see one on polish auction site, and well it is quite rekt, but really the only thing that has to be replaced is the case, will post photos of in the next posts.
It is 4 GB model, but I would probably buy it for replacing my X220.

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>>57740027

>>57739875
No I mean you buy a ThinkPad because used they're cheap but dependable machines for the poor as fuck.

ctrl+f t440

did i fuck up buying this thing?

>>57740094
People don't like the *40 generation because it got a bit too Mac by removing the mouse buttons and instead making them part of the touchpad which makes using the Trackpoint harder.

>>57739644
>windows 10
>master race
:^) well memed friend

>>57740094
>tfw T440P
they get better if you change the trackpad and screen.
plebbit has a thread with useful info but as far as the bios whitelist you are done goofed unless you can contact the modder at bios-mods.com and trust me I've tried. Currenlty looking for alternatives to do it my self but im lost.

also
>>57740244
this

>>57740089
...I bought a ThinkPad because I needed a laptop that had good battery life, decent specs for work, and ran Linux without any issues. I don't really care about price, cause I'm not poor.

>>57740371
>I don't really care about price, cause I'm not poor.
>cause I'm not poor.
>Lurking /g/
You think this is a motherfucking game?
.
.
.
Nah, fair enough tbqh.

What makes Thinkpads different from other laptops?

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just got my x220 today. does anyone know where i can get a legit windows 7 pro iso without pajeet trying to fondle my internals?

>>57740907
Read the OP

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>>57741097
Yeah...just saw. Feel like an idiot now

>>57741116
lurk, lurk, lurk

this is the only way anon

>>57738897
Can you get an injury from using a trackpoint too often? My touchpad is killing me.

>>57741650
Start to stretch your wrists and make push ups

IMO the track point just strains different areas. It's still better than a touchpad though.

best 8gb ssd Laptop under $200 go go go

I'd like to upgrade the 2x4 gigs of ram to 2x8 in my t420.
Any recommendations?
Also, if 1600 mhz is cheaper than 1333 MHz, should I just go for them?

>>57741974
I think there's a chromebook with 8GB storage for that much.

x220 still with a 2011 bios. should i update it?

you guys will probably say no.

>>57738945
i looked at the same one. but i did go through a shit ton of pages.

watch when you post ebay links here because i did that and someone bought it lmao.

>>57741993
all ram is the same shit just get the cheapest one

and custom bios unlocks up to 1866mhz so yeah get whatever

>>57738997
No tips at all as to how to upgrade a x201? Nobody uses them anymore?

How about the ME firmware upgrade, anyone done it at all? Generally what steps do you take to try and neutralize ME/AMT as much as possible?

>>57742350
I have also been asking about firmware updates, but no replies so far. It seems more and more difficult to find any non-trivial info in these threads, it all seems like mostly just sperging out over whether someone overpaid/underpaid a t420 or x220 by some $5 .

>>57740907
Not much anymore tbqh. In a few years these threads won't exist anymore, or will pop up only every now and then just like the CRT threads do.

Why is t420 recommended? Seems to me to be the worst deal in the --20 gen

Anyone have a Thinkpad 13? It's looking really attractive to me right now with the prices.

I had an i5 x220 that's broken, and I wanted to upgrade.

>>57740281
If what you're doing can be done on something other than w10 I'm sorry, but you're not important

My x201T's speakers will randomly cut out. I'm running Mint, but I think it did it on Windows, also. What do?

>>57743671
how so

>>57740027
I imagine that you probably have a more limited supply over there, so if you are ok with a wrecked case, it is probably alright. Dunno about T530 resolutions, though.

>>57743723
What you're trying to say? That all the things that are possibly important can only be done on Windows 10? If so, you're a moron.

>>57741974
There's a few T420s very close to that on eBay with those specs.

>>57743825
That'sexactly my sentiment.
All the business grade software that matters is windows exclusive.

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Am I the only Thinkpad fan that doesn't give a fuck about the trackpoint?

I found at T430 with "BIOS password set - only read access available."

How bad is this?

>>57743556
Have faith, we will find vindication in January, brother

I just picked up a t420 and it idles around 60C. Is this normal? Just looking around google didn't help.

>>57743977
I use an external without exception tbqh

>>57743977
I've never really tried using it

My W520 temps seem to be way to high, the MOBO gets to around 65c and the CPU to 60c. Does anyone have any advice for lowering the temps? I know that I can take out the cpu, clean the fan, and reapply some themal paste, but will the MOBO also decrease in temperature if I do this?

>>57743980
you can't change anything in the bios

>>57744019
no it's not, replace thermal paste and clean the fan

>>57742350

Never update a BIOS unless there's a reason to. Do you need a feature from the later bios? If not don't update.

>>57743998
Faith in what?

Anything past T60(p)/X60 is inherently botnetted by ME/AMT (with only select models suitable for uncucking either by flashing coreboot/libreboot, or by wild sheenanigans such as http://hardenedlinux.org/firmware/2016/11/17/neutralize_ME_firmware_on_sandybridge_and_ivybridge.html).

Anything past X220/T420/T520 has a bullshit chiclet "keyboard" with a fucked-up layout and a hugeass touchpad, then also missing physical trackpoint keys. Then came the Superfish debacle which took any possibly remaining faith in Chinknovo coming to their senses away.

Not to mention, these threads have become a bullshit discussion where noting really insightful or relevant is discussed anymore beyond what you can google yourself in a minute or two.

The Thinkpad is no more. Even Scott Mueller who has always been endorsing Thinkpads doesn't recommend them anymore. Stock up on whatever you consider the last good or bearable model, because nothing better is expected to ever surface again under this brand.

Anyone here with an i7 2640m (the dual core one) kind enough to post a capture of the CPU-Z benchmark scores at max performance?

Thanks.

>>57738897
this is shit right

https://slickdeals.net/f/9437751-lenovo-thinkpad-13-ultrabook-i5-6200u-13-3-1080p-8gb-ddr4-256gb-ssd-503-free-shipping

>>57740974
just look for "untouched iso". You can verify the hash or something if you're that paranoid.

>>57743977
No, I don't use it because I personally can't stand it over a trackpad. People rave about it being "more precise" when it isn't whatsoever. If I'm wrong, someone please explain to me how it is.

>>57743998
You think Trump will force IBM to get their PC business back and make Thinkpads great again?

Just got a T420s and it won't boot. When I plug it in, the green power button lights up but nothing happens. I've tried all the bs that people tell you to try with the holding down of the power button and removal of ram and battery. Any tips?

>>57744019
No, it certainly isn't. You have to clean the cooling system, for best results dismount the heatsink and reapply thermal compound.

>>57745615
Yeah I just did that gonna let it settle in. But not looking too good. Its still in the mid to low 60's gonna try to get better paste and see what happens.

What do you guys think of the high end thinkpads, perticularly the p50? Worth the money? Need a machine for heavy use.

>>57745612
idk yo

>>57745612
ask a seller

Dumb question:

On a T420, I can install a mSATA hard drive *in addition to* the WiFi card, right?

And are there any better WiFi cards I can install? This one is pretty antiquated. I'm sure USB would be better, but internal is the lowest profile of all...

Since when eveyone started calling touchpad as trackpad?

>>57747045
without bios mod you can install up to Intel Ultimate-N 6300.
With bios mod you can install intel 7260ac card.
mSATA port is only for WWAN and mSATA.

>>57747081
I think these subhumans mean trackpoint instead of trackpad

>>57745187
I dont have windows so i cant post a cpu-z benchmark, but here is a novabench one.

https://novabench.com/compare.php?id=5ac284cbf273ceb0f03847d42c4929531124764

>>57747045
Yes, there is an mSATA slot along with the Wifi slot.

>>57747101
No, these subhumans clearly know the difference, i think it's an Apple meme name for their touchpad to mimick IBM's naming strategy like how they did with Think """Different""".

>>57747081
>>57747101
No, we are referring to it like touchpad. The terms mean the same thing.

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>2k 16
>still waiting for x61 libreboot

>>57747244
>still being too poor to get a proper thinkpad
time to get a job, stupid frog poster

>>57747256
I don't want to pay someone to spy on me, intelligent textposter.

>>57747123
Better than nothing i guess, thanks.

I'm trying to measure how the single core performance of the 2640m is and CPU-Z scores are what I'm used to.

I fell into the quad core CPU meme and while heat isn't an issue at all, now i realized that most of the shit i do is more single core focused.

>>57747296
Have you tried this site?

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/791/IntelR-CoreTM-i7-2640M-CPU---280GHz

So there's a t420 for $130 and a x220 for $100 on my local craigslist right now. Both i5, 300GB HDD, the first with 6GB RAM and the second with 8, and the x220 is stated to be in 'good' condition with some white spots on the screen while the T420 is 'excellent'.

What do you guys think? When I call them, what should I be asking?

I like the idea of a smaller, portable laptop, so I'm leaning to the x220 though I'm wondering if it'd be hard to replace the screen. What advantages/disadvantages are there between it and the T420 besides size and weight? Can they both be upgraded similarly? I heard the x220 can only have one hard drive compared to two on the T420.

>>57746856
I have P50 and I don't like it very much. It's mainly because it's just disappointing compared to older Thinkpads. Maybe it's fine for you.

>>57747343
It's not hard to replace the screen. You can get the lenovo IPS for like $60 and all it takes is popping off the screen bezel and unscrewing it

Quick question guys:
T420 vs T520
Both with same specs
Which is better? Is screensize the only difference? I've read that T420 has nvidia optimus gpu so it can support additional screens and T520 supports quad core cpu.
So T520 doesnt support multidisplay and T420 cant have quad core cpu or what?

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I installed my X62 motherboard today and it's currently working (for now). Ask me things if you're interested

>>57747392
>>57747343
Sorry I didn't answer your second question. Both the x220 and T420 have mSATA and a SATA port, so yes you can put an mSATA drive and an HDD/SSD in the standard slot.

>>57747406
>>57747392

Thank you. I hear the mSATA is a no-go if there's a wireless card in place. Is that true?

>>57747420
No. You're thinking of WWAN, as the WWAN cards use the mSATA slot. Nobody uses those, though, so if it came with it, just remove it.

>>57747343
X220 can have twod drives and T420 can have three drives
X220 has soldered non-upgradeable cpu while the T420 cpu is easily removable and upgradeable
X220 has 1366x768 with option to have an IPS screen and T420 has a shit TN screen but 1366x768 or 1600x900
X220 with i7s have usb 3.0, T420 doesn't. (Can use an ExpressCard adapter for usb 3.0 ports though)

>>57747396
Differences are screen size, maximum resolution and better cooling.
Both can have Intel iGPU + Nvidia dGPU or only Intel iGPU.
Both support quad core CPUs but the T520 has better cooling for them.

>>57747405
What is this, exactly? An older T60 model with a more modern processor?

>>57747436
Thanks

>>57747405
Does it have Iris graphics?
Do your laptop have 1440p display?
How many video outs?
How much?
Did you erase the ME partition on your bios?
Did you install coreboot on it?
>>57747442
>X62
>X
>bezelless keyboard
>no touchpad
>hurr durr look i am retard is diz T60 rite xxDDD

Is 60c too hot for idle mobo/cpu temps? Also will cleaning the cpu fan and reapplying thermal paste to the cpu fix this?

My thinkpad feels hot as shit even when just idling.

>>57747470
60 idle? Prolly not.
Clean the fan and apply liquid metal. Also adjust fan speeds.

>>57747405
I want one. Where can I get it?

>>57747470
Yes imo, my quad core t420 idles at around 53c but that's because i turn off the CPU fan.

>>57747480
>Clean the fan and apply liquid metal
You mean thermal paste?
>Also adjust fan speeds.
Is this done through the BIOS? I have the w520 if that makes any difference.

>>57747501
>that's because i turn off the CPU fan.
Why?

>>57747526
Bios has no options for that, but you can access embedded controller through thinkpad-acpi or similar utility.

>>57747526
Because i like my memepad being dead silent with the fan turned off and SSDs.

Have it set so that at 60c the fan at lv1 kicks in and the temperatures drop again but most of the time stays around ~56 with light usage with the fan off (shitposting, foobar, ms word).

>>57747442
It's an X60/X61 chassis with a new modern Broadwell-based motherboard designed/produced by Thinkpad enthusiasts in Shenzhen

>>57747466
HD5500
1400x1050 is highest res display (from X60T)
Mini displayport and mini HDMI
$470 + shipping
The bios is AMI Aptio-based produced by the hardware developers. I don't think intel ME is functioning but I haven't confirmed. Coreboot isn't possible right now.

>>57747481
http://forum.51nb.com/thread-1712790-1-1.html

My x230t does not power on and does not show any indication when plugged in. I've tried hitting the power button ten times and holding it for 30 seconds while the charger and battery were disconnected. I've heard that even if the motherboard is fried it still has some indication lights. Any Ideas?

>>57747615
>HD5500
Cheaped out fuckers.
Can you put m2 ssd in it?
Do they provide bios images for emergency reflashing?

>>57747647
No M2, only regular SATA3 and mSATA.
BIOS images/updates are provided.

>>57747797
Do you need thinkpad-acpi to adjust the battery?

>>57747953
thinkpad-acpi doesn't work as there is no Lenovo/Thinkpad-specific firmware in the board. It's not actually recognized as a "thinkpad"

>>57747797
At least you can put in 32 gigs of memory, unlike the latest fagbook "pro"
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2894509/want-32gb-of-ram-in-your-laptop-or-nuc-you-can-finally-do-it.html
>>57748005
but how does it manage to communicate with battery contrioller?

Can I replace my X230T's screen with an X61T's? I like that screen ratio and I don't mind if it makes my laptop look bonkers.

>>57748018
>but how does it manage to communicate with battery contrioller?
Generic ACPI support rather than the special controller Lenovo is using.
Actually I don't think the ACPI support is 100% working (or I have a config problem) as my battery is stuck reporting at 0% right now.

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>>57747256
Any Thinkpad starting with T61(p)/X61 has ME/AMT.

>>57748169
But libreoot removes it on x200/s/t.
Somehow they forgot about x61/s/t.

>>57747433
>Nobody uses those, though
Why? Isn't having cellular network internet a convenience?

>>57748189
X200 is one of the exceptions which can be librebooted. A handful other models can have ME defeated as well with some substantial effort (http://hardenedlinux.org/firmware/2016/11/17/neutralize_ME_firmware_on_sandybridge_and_ivybridge.html). But these are just exceptions.

>>57748189
It's unlikely they "forgot". Probably either research regarding removing/disabling ME on these models was unsuccessful so far.

>>57743980
http://www.ja.axxs.net/t430.htm
These two pins need to be short circuted right after the Thinkpad logo at boot.

What other stuff could i run on a t42 with 32mb of vram?

Got Hotline miami to run nice
Plays the sims, empire earth, halo, OSRS, swat 3, runs a PSP emulator well enough to play gimped battlefront and Midnight club LA Remix

What do you play on old shit /tpg/?

What could run on my R30 with a 1ghz p3, 1gb of ram and an 8mb gpu?

>>57747085
Is the 7260 better in terms oft energy consumption compared to the stock 6300? Thats really all i care about.

Is it better to buy T420 with 120 SSD + 320 HDD or T520 with 320 HDD only?
Both have 1600x900 screen and i5.

>>57748347
Starcraft, Diablo, Warcraft, Prince of Persia, Gothic?

Is the x300 worth getting over the x220? Saucy's guide says it 'was the pinnacle of Lenovo/IBM build quality and design.' but it seems like it can't be upgraded too much.

>>57748547
You can solder SP9600 cpu in it, so it will become as powerful as x200 with P8800

>>57748566
Oops, it only applies to x301, which has Displayport and also weighs less than said x200, lol.

>>57747436
>X220 has 1366x768 with option to have an IPS screen

Are there any issues if you get a 768 version but buy an IPS replacement screen? Or do you need to do some extra modding work?

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>beta male nu-cuck "developers" claim that they use the 1366x768 cuckpad X220

Holy keklepop

>>57749057
70% of all devices that display web are 768p laptops and 720p android smartphones. So they are doing it right.

>>57749057
i dont care about screen. I need a laptop just for writing articles. So i use 1366x768

>>57749164
Enjoy yor eye cancer at age of 30.

>>57749223
i am 34

>>57749242
You are 34 and still don;t have enough money to buy portable device with good PPI?
I hope, you won't reproduce, mister.

>>57749138
>there's more shitty displays than good displays which means that they're good!!!

You do realise that it's because most of those displays are in poo in loo land? I would've thought that you knew that since you are a Pajeet.

>>57749251
I do not spend money on toys

>>57749256
Are you what, racist?
back to >>>>/pol/ the white race is in danger!

>>57749264
So what, you spent money on chink ripoff memorabilia ""Thinkpad"" from 2012 which is not even a real Thinkpad anymore.
Even Linus "Kernel Tips" Torvalds uses Apple notebooks with retina display and advocates high-ppi screens.
Because you know, when you actually read and write lot's of text, it is crucial to not overstrain your eyes.

>>57749296
>Linus "Kernel Tips" Torvalds
>guy with glasses giving advices about screens

>>57749313
He started wearing glasses because of shitty screens in the old times

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uh my memepad has arrived
well it's not terrible than i thought
but booting speed is pretty crap
1600 x 900 res screen has set up already

have to upgrade ram and ssd and OS

>>57738928
Real IBMs.

Thanks a lot anon, this thread reeks of chinkpad.

>>57749164
>eye cancer
>>57749296
>overstrain your eyes
Where do these memes come from? Eye strain is a function of text readability, screen brightess, etc. and high DPI doesn't prevent any medical issues.

Fucking faggots.

>>57744994
>Anything past T60(p)/X60 is inherently botnetted by ME/AMT (with only select models suitable for uncucking either by flashing coreboot/libreboot, or by wild sheenanigans such as http://hardenedlinux.org/firmware/2016/11/17/neutralize_ME_firmware_on_sandybridge_and_ivybridge.html).
I don't care.
>Anything past X220/T420/T520 has a bullshit chiclet "keyboard" with a fucked-up layout and a hugeass touchpad, then also missing physical trackpoint keys.
Vindication, brother. January will bring the old keyboard layout. I promise you

Lads how do I get my middle trackpoint button to work as 3rd mouse button on Windows 10 for my x220? I tried it under synaptics but changing it does not work, I tried putting the tpmiddle.exe in startup it runs but it doesn't seem to do anything. When I clean installed before doing the updates it was working. Is there any way to fix this? I regret already switching from linux but I need wangblows for now

>inb4 Windows 10
>inb4 botnet
>inb4 updating windows ever


Thanks

>>57749587
This is your punishment for being too dumb.
You could get away with Windows VM pretty fine.

>>57749624
I did that but some programs don't function as efficiently as i wanted anyway so you don't know how

>>57749365
boot up takes a 2minute...
am i have to buy ssd?

>>57749633
Do not use Virtualbox then.

>>57749663
My sata 1 hdd takes 30 seconds

>>57749672
shit i can't figure out what the hack is wrong

>>57738897
any of you guys running plan9?
What model?
How's it working out?

>>57749057
b-but my 420 has a 1600 x 900 screen

>>57749698
Check the disk and buy ssd.

>>57749698
lel mine takes 1:30 mins to boot as well and i'm running arch, I think it's because of HDD and low ram (4gb)

>>57749720
>>57749717
installed win 10 and it's better than first
i'm gonna use it for while

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Did I do good exploiting bugs on lenovo's customizer to get a free ssd and a $250 discount on top of the 35% thinkpad sale, epp pricing and using a coupon code that shouldn't have worked, /g/? Price is in leaf monopoly money btw, so that's like 550 USD.

Don't even know why I bought it desu, already have two laptops which I hardly use for anything besides ARP poisoning the other people on my network.

>>57750209
Send it to me, I'll etch your name on it and give you pictures of my cum

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post comfy Thinkpad setups.

>>57750608
Why there are worms in your cup?

>>57750608
Don't eat that shit m8

>>57748425
Bamp

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>>57738897
what did my t420 mean by this

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What the fuck is this? i just disassembled and check the ram in mother board few minutes ago and it won't start
up what the fuck is this bullshit?

>>57740244
I heard the TouchPad can be replaced super easily with the t450 one, which is way better. The reason I bought my t440p is it's the last ThinkPad with a Socket that I am aware of, so I can put a 4910mq in and have a fire-breathing chip without having other needlessly expensive parts driving the cost up like on a gaymer laptop. I just wish there were a socketed iris pro. I've heard good things about battery life to boot!

>>57751066
nvm i misplaced ram

>>57750902
I can't stand a 15.6" laptop so i would pick the t420.

Also i'd ask for a lower price without drives and get myself a 240gb ssd or 1tb hdd minimum.

>>57743977
Only when I'm typing is when I use the trackpoint
The touchpad is godawful and so is the trackpoint but the trackpoint doesn't require you to leave the asdf jkl;

>>57749663
My hard drive booted W7 in about 30-40 seconds on average
After a short while it started taking minutes, installed an SSD and everything was fine
Weird shit.

>>57743977
I love the trackpoint. It keeps my hands at the home row of my keyboard. I hate having to move down to the trackpad.

The trackpoint also has infinite movement, whereas the trackpad has a small square to move in and you will have to inevitably lift your hand again once you run out of space.

>>57749663
Get an ssd, my boot times are like 10 seconds or below.

>>57744994
>Anything past T60(p)/X60 is inherently botnetted by ME/AMT
So is every modern x86 processor.

>a bullshit chiclet "keyboard" with a fucked-up layout
The layout could be better but the typing feel/experience is still top notch compared to some other laptops.

>a hugeass touchpad
The modern touchpad is a much better than the tiny pitted design they had in T60/T400/X201 era.

>missing physical trackpoint keys
Only in one generation with aftermarket upgrade option.

>Superfish
Only affected Lenovo Notebooks and not ThinkPads.

>threads have become a bullshit discussion where noting really insightful or relevant is discussed anymore
Why do you even come here if you feel that way?

>The Thinkpad is no more.
To me ThinkPad has always been a bit dated, high quality and low cost laptop. This isn't going away as long as businesses buy them and Lenovo doesn't totally drop the ball.

>Stock up on whatever you consider the last good or bearable model
I'm looking forward to upgrading to T460s, X260 or 3/4th gen X1C in a few years.

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My t420 is suffering from subtle coil whine when scrolling (and on screen repaints in general).
It started happening after I replaced my fan and reapplied the thermal paste.

Any idea how to fix it?

It can't be the fan itself, as it is still there when the fan is at 0 rpm and turned off.

>>57744994
>being this autistic

Anyone from EUROPE bought a dankpad from the USA ?

>>57739644
how's the display m8, viewing angels shit like previous models ?

>>57752149
Good enough to be usable after changing PWM settings
yes

>>57752159
>PWM settings
what the fuck is that

>>57751866
My T420 almost always has coil whine no matter what it's doing, out of curiosity is coil whine caused by heat, voltage or the processes it's doing

>>57738928
Whats that in the middle, ethernet?

>>57740244
You can replace it, though it can be slightly difficult if you have a fingerprint reader.
Also I couldn't figure out how to get two finger scrolling on a T431s after the mod.

>>57743397
You're asking for too much hacker stuff on a not so common laptop

Just get a libreboot X200 or deal with the backdoors

>>57743671
Price is a big determining factor, here's my weigh in on Sandy Bridge ThinkPads
i7 W520 > IPS X220 > W520 > T420 > X220 > T520 > E520 > E220 > E420

>>57744318
Yes it should solve it.
My X61T ran hot when it had a 3rd party battery, is your battery OEM or not? That can be a factor too.

>>57747405
Why does every X62 owner just post that bios splash screen?
Post photo with specs.

>>57752118
Postage price for laptops is almost never worth the hassle, unless your country is that bad

>>57752232
It's a floppy disc anon

Guys don't buy hp elitebooks, I'm using one right now, and it's falling apart. I use it in school, and work on it at home. The dvd drive doesn't come out, the corners are cracking. It still works, but I wonder how it will look after 3 years.

>>57748547
For a daily beater I recommend an IPS X220 over the X301. QQ

>>57749296
>Linus as credible advice
Where does he rank on the youtube apple cesspool?

>>57749663
18 Seconds on a T431s
Shouldn't be more than 1m 20s on 7200RPM HDD

>>57752118
As a seller, shipping to worldwide is a hassle if you don't know customs for each country.
Most laptops & charger fit in a USPS Large Gameboard box, but I am not sure how shipping costs once it leaves murrika.

>>57752280
There's a cord next to the floppy, sorry I ignored the floppy. :3

>>57752286
Terrible
What elitebook?
I didn't care for a 8570p, 2730p was good, 2740p nice other than needing to get an mSATA SSD & 1.8" converter.
However I loved the shit out of the 8760w. Shit was so cash.

>>57751866
Disable Turboboost and see if it goes away.

My i7 2720qm T420 has coil whine when it goes past the stock frequencies, don't ask me why.

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>>57751866
ugh, the same was with my t410 when I put a chinese fan on it, bothered me too much and put back the stock fan, no coil whine more. My stock fan was sticking > fan error. So i drilled it's back and oiled it.

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>when the nips can't handle a real business class laptop
https://youtu.be/6G857yRzm5w?t=4m18s

OK guys i have a possible thinkpad purchase here need some advice:
T420 with 8gb ram, i5 CPU and a 1TB drive
Also comes with a brand new dock
Asking $250

Should i do it?

>>57748310
a reminder that those pins are for programing the eeprom, not defeating the passwords:
http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/70560.html

>>57752244
t430 starts from 250 euros
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-Wunschkonfiguration-Webcam-Win-10-Pro-A-Ware-/131766853759

pretty sure the prices are better in the states

>>57748547
I have an X300 that used to belong to my dad. The thing is worth owning just for the astoundingly good build quality, but it has become almost completely useless for any modern tasks. It's very slow on modern websites and the whole system regularly locks up as the processor is overwhelmed by the simplest of requests. The P9500 in my T400 is a lot more capable and it's not even really a full voltage CPU either.

>>57752343
>>57738897
>>57738928

Anyone feel like throwing some advice my way? Kind of time sensitive here

The guy lowered to $240:
T420 with 8gb ram, i5 CPU and a 1TB drive
Also comes with a brand new dock

>>57752668
Resolution? If it's 1366x768 don't even bother.

>>57753039
I'd do it because i live in a shithole but if you're from the US I've seen T420 going for ~$130 so not worth it in that case.

Also an used dock for the t420 is like $15 or less

>>57753149
I dont care so much about the resolution for this, i already have macbooks for that stuff

>>57753182
Ya thats what is killing me about this deal. The laptop is in very good condition too but it still just seems too much for a T420

>>57752186
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/Low-PWM-frequency-affects-recent-ThinkPad-models/td-p/3283063

I got an used T420 for free, but there's something wrong with the fan.
When getting above 50°C (I think it's stage 2 on fan control), it will sometimes just go to a higher RPM, but sometimes start screaming like someone put his dick in it, and the whole laptop starts literally vibrating.

I looked into the fan after removing the keyboard, but nothing seems to be in its way.

Now, I installed thinkfan, and my question is, up to which temp can I safely run a T420 with the fan turned off ?

>>57753575
I generally don't start the fan below 60C on my machines.

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What would cause sound cutting out problems on a X201? Running Mint XFCE atm.

>>57753702
Alright, just to be sure.
I don't want to have it screeching in the middle of a class anymore.
It's still weird though, there's literally nothing wrong in the fancase.

>>57753575
>up to which temp can I safely run a T420 with the fan turned off
whatever is the tjunction limit, the laptop will shut down by then so it's still safe.

I disable the fan up to 65c, then fan lv1 up to 75c and then let the bios take care of it after 85c. Rarely hit 85c though even with the quad core cpu.

is there ANY thinkpad that has a good screen and speakers?

I swear the one thing these are terrible for is movies.

>>57754086
movies are gay

>>57753702
could you share your tpfancontrol.ini steps ? also which model.
it's been a while since i've played with those settings

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>>57752649
I don't see an Apple Makbook Pro 2016 there.
What X200 really has is loud spacebar.
>yfw you are not baio

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>>57752649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtaIP6iNLOw
>they had to paint cracks in after effects because it is impossible to stomp a thinkpad
VAIO BTFO
A
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B
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>>57753566
it doesn't have anything to do with view angles, right ?

>>57739785
Generally they're in much better condition. Mine arrived with almost no cycles on the battery.
Downside is usually they have the basic specs (4 GB RAM, default HDD, usually no IPS screen, etc...)

But still, I'd rather pick a previously company owned one who are not looking to make profit, just getting rid of old hardware rather than from some random neckbeard who used it to masturbate to hentai.

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>>57750608
Not mine but I like this so much

>>57752118
I did.
Live in Portugal and bough one from Cali. Took like a month to arrive but the laptop was in perfect condition. Buying from companies is safer than some random dude who's been using it personally in my opinion.

t430/4/320/hd+ display

but with some optical problems, scratches bla bla

for 219.99euro +20 shipping to me....also comes near 250 euros

>>57755543
yeah, fuck it. but companies mean higher prices imho

>>57755570
>but with some optical problems,
You mean problems with optical drive?

T430 for 250 euros is good. I bought mine X220 for 250 too

im currently using 3 displays with an microDP to 3x HDMI adapter on my L460.

Anyone ever achived 6 Displays with an USB 3.0 Dock and usb to DVI adapter?

>>57755593
i mean scratches and shit

just found one in my home country for 225 euros with 8gb/250gb ssd/wwan and hd+

too bad for now i decided to stay with my t410

>>57755627
oops, ssd is +80 euros

but still

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Anyone got experience with the Yoga 260?

>>57739644

>chinkpad
>w10
>nvidia
>master race

Kek

>>57747615
>http://forum.51nb.com/thread-1712790-1-1.html

>T50/X62/T70/X210

Wat. They made all these Thinkpad boards that never existed? Too bad virtually everything else there is in Chinese.

>>57752343
>As a seller, shipping to worldwide is a hassle if you don't know customs for each country.


w-would you consider selling to one of us then ?

>>57747085

Thanks for this. I went to bed before seeing you post, hope the thread is still alive.

>>57747131

And thanks for clarifying that.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-14-i7-3520M-2-9GHz-8GB-500GB-NVS-5200M-2355-2S8-/142194178129?hash=item211b6ef851:g:tacAAOSwMVdYGKzv

thoughts on this?

>>57755998
Google Translate works surprisingly well now

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>>57749720
>>57749663
>>57749672


>mfw my T60p with C2D and XP Black Edition on SSD with 4gb ram takes 9 seconds

>>57748347

>>57748347

I'm actually typing this from my t42

There is a version that was offered with the ATI 9600 with 64mb VRAM it is a night and day difference over the 7500 most of them come with.

The 7500 will do Counterstrike 1.6 well, I can turn up all the eye candy (lel) and get 70fps usually. I actually game with it online all it does is CS and old WinXP games. Unreal 99 too.

R30 won't play much of anything from the XP era. You might still get HL and CS 1.6 low res.

T42 isn't bad get the 765 2.2ghz for it and the extended battery. It will do most apps fine, max the RAM too. It's my beater while I'm on the road if anything happens to it whatever.

How long can i expect a refurbished t420 to last if i take care of it and change components from time to time ?

>>57756510

Until you get tired of it being clunky. There's no way around it, it's eventually going to be clunky and slow at some point.

Hey tpg just got three thinkpads in, a T420 and two x60s's, neither of the x60's have harddrives i'd like to get a small ssd for one of them does anyone know whether the interface is sata1 or sata2?

>>57752343
Seconding this >>57756039
US prices are way too fucking cheap.

>>57756824
I think the X60 does sata1 because the T61 and X61 were sata1 too but you could unlock sata2 speeds with a custom bios and the x200 has sata2 speeds out of the box.

he T420 mSATA port is SATA2, the main drive bay and the optical drive bay are SATA3.

By the way, mind selling one of those x60s? if so please do international shipping ;-;

>>57757433
Honestly i've tried to sell stuff on ebay before and its just a huge pain in the fucking ass. Also i'm from Canada so it would cost way more than you expected.

>>57757301
forwarding agents work just fine. That's how I bought mine.

day 2. i am used to the x220 keyboard, and the trackpoint middle button combo are great. the touch pad sucks though.

what do i do about the wireless? the computer itself is fast but i am having issues like watching videos, loading pics, etc. it might be the browser though...

>>57740974
http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/

Can newer model TP's that come with Win10 be downgraded to Win7?

Finally fell for the meme goys.

x220t i5, 6GB, 128GB SSD, IPS
$245

How'd I do?

>>57750209
That's pretty nice, anon. I didn't know that exploit was still active or I might have gone for it myself, it didn't work when I tried it on Monday. As it is, I got the E570 with the i3 processor and the 4GB RAM for ~$380, which is still a good deal.

>>57750209
>ports
>disc drive
>numpad

you did OK anon. do something about windows 10 home though. upgrade it or install something else.

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>tfw the 1050ti for my T420 arrived
Looking good so far.

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>>57758833
Odd, worked for me when I bought it right after I woke up this morning. Actually expected it to be fixed but it wasn't. Since the laptop can have two drives, they put up different selections for hard drives and you could just select "none" in the first one, be discounted the price of that drive, and it'd just give you the ssd as a 2nd drive for free since they have to ship with a drive.

Now that you made me think about it, I should've gone with 4 gb and saved more money by adding more ram myself. Oh well.

Either way, I'm hoping Lenovo honors the order but I think they're gonna cancel them considering how many people exploited employee pricing + the ssd thing.

Probably going to end up flipping it and make two or three hundred bucks if the order goes through though, dunno yet.

>>57759040
yeah, no way I'm keeping Home. I just wasn't gonna drop 30 (or 50? can't remember) bucks for pajeet@lenovo to put pro on the laptop when I can do it myself for free.
Might actually have some fun instead and put a really cancerous meme distro instead just to see how many people i could trigger on here. Only until I find an actual purpose for the laptop though.

*** QUICK ***

WHERE DO I GO INTO BIOS ON A T430S TO BOOT FROM USB???

I need to replace my 5 year old laptop.

My budget is around £800 total, these are two that I've been looking at:
MSI GL62 6QC
Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLK
Both low end gaming laptops, so I'm a bit suspicious of their build quality and life expectancy.

However, after having a browse here, if thinkpads are durable, upgradable and cheap, I'm thinking they might be a better option.

My requirements are as follows:

>Durable
I'll be moving from country to country for the next 5 years or so, and I need something that will last that long (which is one of the reasons my budget is what it is). Or if it won't last that long something that has worldwide hardware support.

>2 screens
I'm a freelance translator, not especially hard work on the processor but working with 2 screens makes my life a lot easier, so a laptop that can support 2 screens at decent resolution would be ideal

>Games
I do play games, and I would like something that can play modern games, but I don't need it to run them at max settings.

>Weight and size
Not really issues, I tend to use my laptop at home, the only reason I don't have desktop is because I move around from time to time.

Is there a second hand thinkpad that would suit me, or should I go for a new laptop?

Based in the UK at the moment.

>>57759213
do i check USB CD
USB FDD
USB HDD

or what???????????????????

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>>57759179
Posting that gif actually gave me a good idea on what I could do. Gonna rice it with a ted cruz theme that somehow involves delegates.

thanks rato

>>57759173
I was thinking doing the same thing with a 1050ti! How is it working, are you displaying through the original LCD? Are you using the expresscard slot or the pcie slot on the board?

>>57759179
windows 10 is fast and one of the best windows in alot of ways, but they over stepped themselves with updates and windows bloat/spyware.

>>57759281
>>>57759173
>How is it working
It just arrived. Runs fine for now but the drivers i installed are outdated so I'm now updating the drivers, will test later with games and Furmark.

>are you displaying through the original LCD?
No, I'm using my 1080p monitor but yeah it works in a dual monitor setup as you can see in that image.

>Are you using the expresscard slot or the pcie slot on the board?
ExpressCard of course, as you can see I'm using the pcie mSATA slot as main SSD and no way I'm taking off the backplate every time i want to use the eGPU.

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>>57759239
>2 screens
look no further

>>57759244
Yes.

>>57759394
exceptional

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>>57759303
Eh, I recently went to fast ring insider previews so I could get the new windows subsystem changes, and desu the os is in a pretty good place right now.

Replaced the bundled ubuntu WSL with a RHEL wsl and now that they allow you to run windows executables in the linux subsystem it's pretty dope. Can literally run linux gui applications seamlessly side by side with the rest of my shit.

As long as you disable all the spyware/autoupdating shit it's not a bad os, and m$ has surprisingly been moving towards open sourcing a lot of their shit and taking input from the community (for WSL at least), so the future ain't looking too terrible. All it's missing for me to ditch VMs right now is working ipv4 networking + routing within WSL. They actually fixed a bunch of network stuff for WSL already in the last fast ring update so they're getting there.

However, fuck that Xbox "app" garbage. Cancerous shit desu, and annoying to disable.

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I know that the E series aren't ideal thinkpads, but I'm looking for a laptop for my grandparents.

What is the difference between the E550 and E560? E560 is cheaper, so is there any reason to get https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-1366x768-i3-5005U-Professional/dp/B01HEFX92E over https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-i5-6200U-802-11ac-Bluetooth/dp/B0178JBNMO?

>>57759491
>However, fuck that Xbox "app" garbage. Cancerous shit desu, and annoying to disable.

i somehow disable all of it and erased a lot of it too. then i needed something( maybe .net or some other shit) so i re-enabled it, got what i need but then activated a fucking virus.

the best thing i did is get this x220 and give my sister my "built for windows 10" asus.
she is 9 so a tablet ecosystem is fine for her.

>>57759646
whats with people here wanting to buy there old ass grandparents expensive computers?
get them somthing cheaper that way you can buy them other things too.

>>57759394
Too bad it'll take days of searching every nook and cranny to find a one.

What kind of monitors do you goys use with your dankpads? is ebay really the my best option when it comes to pruchasing one?
I got a t400 that I love and I wanna start docking it.

p-post thinkpad setups pls

A new gen of Thinkpads will probably be announced in about a month what to expect?

>>57759767
shit

>>57759394
Honestly...why didn't the dual monitor thing catch on?

>>57752244
Last month I got my X220 from the USA. Total cost was about about $250AUD which was slightly cheaper than getting a refurbed one here ($270-290). But the one I got had a larger hard drive and spare charger (I have a plug converter so nbd).

Australia is shit.

>>57756430
>XP Black Edition
>"the T60p doesn't come with a hardware botnet, so I installed a software one"

>>57755349
What's the difference between battery cycles and wear? I've seen batteries with substantial wear but 0 cycles.

How to recharge the battery to get most total life out of it? If you charge only to 80% and recharge at 30%, you're only using half of the total charge volume - will the lessened wear on the cells by avoiding full charge/discharge make up for the effectively reduced capacity and the more frequent charges?

>>57760372
>What's the difference between battery cycles and wear? I've seen batteries with substantial wear but 0 cycles.
Lithium Ion is a mechanically unstable chemistry. The anode takes damage just sitting charged.

>>57760372
charge cycles cause wear
but so does the battery just sitting there (especially if it's either fully charged or discharged)

>>57760372
Yes, but it's better to take it only to 50% or so and just drain it down to 10%. Leaving it at 40-50% is a good idea if the machine spends most of its life on a charger, 80% is still quite high voltage.

With care you'll reduce the wear by 2 or 3 times, but depending on your use case it's not practical having access to only half the battery at a time.

>>57758769
ideal setup

Are there any ecoupons for new thinkpads still valid?

>>Anything past T60(p)/X60 is inherently botnetted by ME/AMT

>>57751822
>So is every modern x86 processor.

>>57752099
>>being this autistic

>>57749552
>I don't care.


It's very sad to see such attitudes coming from people supposedly tech-savvy and concerned about privacy and freedom. But precisely these indifferent attitudes have allowed {{them}} to continue implement all this dangerous and invasive stuff, and have lead us to the situation we have found ourselves in.

http://me.bios.io/images/0/0f/csk_lacon12_intel_amt.pdf

I wouldn't be surprised if by now this is routinely used at airports and other places to snoop on people's computers without them ever taking any notice. Sooner or later random malicious third parties are bound to make use of it as well. But, "you don't care". Fine.

>>57760892
Corrected link:
http://me.bios.io/images/0/0f/Csk_lacon12_intel_amt.pdf (one letter had wrong case)

>>57739644
>win 10
>1600x900 ultra-shit display

lmao, faggot.

T440p true master-race reporting in. Anyone know if I can open up my battery case and replace my cells with LG HE4 cells? (9x cells = 450000watt hrs.) Will the battery protection circuit accept it?


Anyone else got some mods?


>>57742350
where can i get custom bios .

>>57743977
Never use mine. I normally use an extrenal mouse, but I have grown to enjoy my models trackpad.

>>57760701
So the cells being charged/discharged around half of the total capacity causes only very little wear? Would you recommend to set the charging limit to 55%-60% and the threshold below which to start recharging to 35%-40% to significantly extend battery life while still having some reasonable discharge margin available for working on battery if needed? Is it really better in the long run to recharge much more often while staying close to half charge than to use more of the charge range but recharge less?

>>57760892
>>Anything past T60(p)/X60 is inherently botnetted by ME/AMT
Folks have recently figured out how to completely disable the botnet in everything from Nehalem to Ivy Bridge. Coming soon to a Linux kernel near you.

>>57761045
>450000watt hrs.

Sure thing pal. You can fly to the Moon and back all on one charge.

is this a good time to sell an extra thinkpad i have or should i hold off due to the holiday

i went to the post office a few days ago and it was stupidly packed

>>57761119
You mean this http://hackaday.com/2016/11/28/neutralizing-intels-management-engine/ ? It doesn't sound all as optimistic as you worded it (specifically there's no mention of Nehalem-based boards).

>Coming soon to a Linux kernel near you.
I hope you meant it only figuratively, as a kernel has literally nothing on a system which works well beneath it and is completely out of its reach. The Linux kernel should be happy if it's not completely subverted by systemd in the coming years (and unfortunately that's what the latter's continued growth and overreaching expansion seems to be leading to).

>>57760459
Yet thus far nothing better has been made viable for broad usage to replace Li-Ion?

>>57761179
I'll buy it, what's the specs?

>>57748216
>Isn't having cellular network internet a convenience?

sure, but nowadays it's extremely common to already have a smartphone with 4G connectivity so you can just tether from it instead of having two separate plans just for your thinkpad's service.

>>57755669

Belgian here, bought my T430/128GB SSD/8GB RAM/HD+ for 255 EUR, shipped. Company-used, A grade. Just to give another price reference point.

>>57761311
x220, 8gb, 500hdd fresh w7, + external dock

battery is 6cell, i would describe lifespand as meh. it isn't to the point where you need to walk around with a charger 24/7, but it isn't perfect either. i'd say around 3 1/2 hrs on a charge.

got a dent on top of the front panel, but it does not affect screen in any way. that wasn't me of course, came like that. i'm sure we all love our thinkpads far too much to fuck with them.

what are you willing to throw at me? how does $170 sound?

>>57761384
Correction, 355 EUR shipped, and CPU is i5 2.5 GHz.

Is it necessary to apply new thermal paste on used thinkpads?

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>>57761311
>>57761406
pic is of the dent, to show how small it is

also i'm not indian

>>57761419
only really need to if your temps are kinda high

>>57761449
>>57761419
i always do it just to get it over with

while anon is right in that you're good unless temps are bad, i do it right away to get better performance and temps right off the bat. plus you know when you'll need to do it a second time

What's the best place to buy keyboards/keyboard replacements?

My t420's keyboard is kicking the bucket and I would like to buy a new one, should I go OEM only or are there chinese clones of good enough quality?

>>57738915
Same i love my t430

>>57761406
sounds good to me, got an ebay?

>>57761406
is the BIOS locked?

>>57761449
>>57761482
I've looked into replacing my thermal paste on my x220. I've taken it apart and saw that there was a component connected to the heatsink via a thermal pad. Is it okay to take off and on the thermal pad without replacing it?

>>57761344
Are carrier operators ok with tethering these days? Because I remember they used to outright ban it in the past and would threaten with cancelling your subscription or even penalties if such "abuse" on your part was discovered.

(Come to think of it, pretty much the same how ISPs used to approach users using NAT to allow multiple computers to share one connection, fuckers have only given in once wifi became popular and formally not allowing customers to use it became improfitable.)

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>>57761556
>>57761569
not locked

i haven't listed it yet, if i put it on ebay it would take a few hours to show up on results

if you want to do it via ebay i can list it now and start packing it up

if you want to just shoot $ str8 to my paypal then we can do that too, but i don't know how i would come off as trustworthy to you, besides the color of my skin hurrdurrlmao

pic related no bios lock

>>57761608
The fuck kind of nazi carrier are you using? That's never really happened here in the US, at least not in the past 7 years. Tethering is typically standard in your plan depending on your carrier. If it isn't, there are ways around it. But no, there is no such a thing as a tethering ban on most carriers. At most, there is just a paywall.

>>57761105
Yes, in general partial discharges despite doing more 'cycles' will result in less total wear on the battery.
I use a 50% charging limit because it spends 16 hours a day docked and topped up, just go as low as is practical/comfortable for your use and don't worry about it too much.

>>57761344
What about security, is connecting via a directly installed WWAN card much of a risk? How much access to your system does the cellular network operator have?

Anyone know what the ideapad is like in comparison?

I'm thinking of putting down $115.99 to get a Crucial 525 GB SSD to go with a $200 refurbished T420 with 8GB RAM and i5 processor. Seems like a nice deal to me for a computer that will last a long time. I don't really know about refurbished computers, though. I'll be kicking myself if it runs like shit even after a new HD.

Already looking forward to booting Arch again on one of these things.

>>57761622
Great, yeah, let's do it through eBay. What's your user ID?

>>57761627
I'm from Europe and some years ago the carriers in my country sure had been disallowing tethering in their policies. Dunno, maybe it has changed by now, but then again I suspect that the desire to tether would (as opposed to wifi in the previous decade) only have reduced, given that most people just use their data plan with the phone/tablet.

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>>57761697
how do i know you aren't the nsa come to fuck my shit?

btw i'm not entirely sure so don't take my word for it, but i think its an IPS screen too. pic is running ubuntu, but the hdd is yours with w7 fresh on it, sorry but the ssd was just temp being used bc i pulled it from my desktop as i am selling that

there a way i can link my ebay acc to u without plain texting it here? we both hop onto a temp email service and post the temp handles here?

omegle chat and we type in a random common interest?

>>57761643
Ok, thanks for the info, appreciated. How about the lower threshold determining when to start recharging - is going below 30% starting to be significantly detrimental to long-term battery life?

>>57761688
I'm sure there's no more risk than a standard wireless connection. It IS only a network card, after all. It just supplies the connection and nothing more.

>>57761694
My T420 flies with an SSD. Ironically though, Windows on an SSD is much much faster than Linux, for some reason. Maybe it's just my Arch install, but I honestly didn't really notice a difference between HDD and SSD. But when I booted over to 7 (dual boot), it was blazing. Might have something to do with my CPU power settings keeping it below 1ghz all the time on Arch.

>>57761750
Oh okay. I have no idea about Europe then. I just personally wouldn't want to have to pay for 2 separate cellular lines just to be able to occasionally use 4G on my Thinkpad.

>>57761786
Sure
alexd614 (ebay)
[email protected] (tmp email)
Either way, ready when you are

>>57761823
On phones the carrier operator supposedly has low level access to anything such as pictures and other files stored, settings etc. So wouldn't be a surprise if a WWAN card also gave them a means to snoop around somehow.

>>57761877
Source for that? If that's true, it's probably just because of the way the phone OS is designed. This would be a huge issue on professional equipment with WWAN cards in private companies, so I'm not sure if this is really true.

>>57747405
will they ever sell officially to the western market?

>>57761866
you have more balls than me anon

sent a message straight to your ebay acc, will take a few pics and list it now

will send it to you tomorrow, and since we're both here i can tell you i will send it safely

would you also want a barely used internal 1tb hdd? i DBAN'd it but beyond that it doesn't have the typical ages of writes and rewrites. i put together a desktop in july for kicks and giggles and only used it for a month. i'm not asking for money for it, i just figure another anon could use it vs me going to a local electronics recylcing. i'd just throw it in the box if you want?

someone make a new thread

>>57761789
You can comfortably go down to 15% no problems at all, even 10% isn't that bad. This is because there is a little bit extra capacity reserved that isn't user accessible to prevent significant damage.

>>57761952
Response sent for your assurance.

Great, and yes, the 1tb HDD would be nice, thank you.

So, I purchased my father a refurb T430s off Newegg for $300 even which I thought was a pretty good deal.

>info from invoice

Lenovo Laptop ThinkPad T430S Intel Core i5 3320M (2.60 GHz) 8 GB Memory 128 GB SSD Intel HD Graphics 4000 14.0" Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

Here's the kicker. I open the box that was just delivered today and found a T430u in the box. Don't really know anything about this laptop. I know the T430s since there's a few that I've worked on at my job.

Is it a better laptop? Did I luck out and end up with a more expensive machine?

>>57761952
Not the anon you're doing business with, but why would you want to sell off a perfectly good 1TB drive? Drives always come in handy, you can use it either for data backups or just as a reserve drive just in case. New drives are way more expensive than they should be by now (thanks to the 2011 Thailand floods among other things) and buying used ones is a big risk simply because hardy anyone sells off good ones.

someone make a new thread!!

>>57761952
Shipping address updated. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

>>57762127
Now I noticed you're giving it away for free, even stranger. Around here I'd need to pay at least 20 bucks for a 2.5'' terabyte drive that's not fucked (and would still need to keep my fingers crossed it's not fucked anyway).

>>57762097
>did I luck out and end up with a more expensive machine

Well, it does cost more, but lets say that it came with the i5-3427u (which is the best i5 of the two offered with the U edition) -- it performs slightly worse than the 3320m processor that you thought you were getting. So no, while being a more expensive laptop, you got a worse performing machine that MAY have better battery life. It's up to you whether or not you think this is worth it. The 2520m of the T420 is still faster than both CPUs.

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>>57762181
no problem amigo, and i just listed it, i don't know how long it will take to appear but its all yours for the taking as soon as it pops up. and btw i'm not bsing you about the HDD basically being totally new, i paid $50 for it

>>57762190
>>57762127
i realize it may seem strange, and you can giggle at me if you'd like, but i shitposted about embracing minimalism on a thread a few days ago.
i am getting rid of most of my material things, i am selling what has value, and the things that don't i've already dumped or given to the ultimate jew (goodwill)

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>>57761521
>>57761521
>>57761521
>>57761521

>>57762542
ebay friend

>>57762369
Well it's very appreciated. It'll make things I have planned run a lot smoother. Thank you.

>>57762542
Why is the "wheres the best place to buy X" question even asked anymore though? It's always ebay dude.

>>57762703
>>57762892
I am not from the US, sorry

And from looking at ebay the keyboards look expensive (40+ usd)

>>57762938
What country? Is it because of exchange rate + intl shipping or something? I got my T420 keyboard for like $12

i must know why x220 has been listed as a recommended dopepad. i'm rocking an x220 at this very fucking moment. is x220 the last good x? i got like a 240. the 220 is my archbook. hmu, nigs. op post is blowing my mind.

>>57763025
Why would you ask if why it's listed if you love it? What's the problem?

>>57761627
"tethering" has nothing to do with "plans" its a program in most smartphones and can be used if the phone does not have data connections blocked. (if you can use a web browser on the phone then you can "tether" too)

>>57763077
cuz i gotta know bro. plus any thinkpad is dopeness even if it's a shitty new one. and i must say i really do love it. it's literally the best investment in any computer or computer component. it's done me so well. i do love the x220. highly recommended. i just wanna know why others might think it's so recommended a model to be listed in op.

>>57762938
Mexico, even with out shipping, the ones that don't com from china are almost 50 usd.

Is taobao a good option or would I just get chinked?

>>57743696
Are you me

I just ordered a 13. It should pretty much hit all the spots I need, including massive 32GB RAM I need for work stuff.

Only downside I heard was lackluster screen, but I can deal with that. Can't be worse than x220's panel.

>>57763184
my x220 is so ripped on specs. it's an i5. obviously could have got i7. i spent maybe $2300 saving a few bucks on not getting an i7. i thought i was crazy when i bought it, but it's given me nothing but joy and still kills it on everything i do.

>>57762542
eBay or AliExpress.

Five parts of my T420 are from Aliexpress so yeah it's good.

why would anyone pay more for an i5/7 when they are just same dual core shit as pentium or celeron now?

>>57763116
No shit, any reasonable person knows that. But carriers can detect if you have been tethering (via root or another method of getting around their OEM software detection) and if they are asshole enough, will start charging you for it. The situation is not whether or not your phone can do it, which as you said, any smartphone can function that way, but it's whether or not tethering is ALLOWED that the anon was asking about. My carrier specifically blocks it on any non-rooted/custom ROM phone unless you use something like Foxfi (or a newer method), it says on the screen to call them and add it to your plan. But they haven't ever followed through with charges after I've been tethering after I rooted. But I've known friends on Sprint who have been contacted via mail and been warned for doing the same thing.

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>>57763364
I guess 'cause they're more recent processors. That's usually how it works.

>>57763232
>$2300

jesus.

>>57763440
i suggest a new carrier. mine blocks it only when roaming on other data networks. maybe you don't have many options, idk.

>>57763558
I don't, because all the carriers here (Oklahoma) have ass signal except US Cellular. I like them, pretty reliable and the speeds are good, upgrade options are pretty good as well. I'm rooted so it doesn't matter to me if they block it on non-root users.

>>57763232
>$2300
holy shit
how long ago? in the US market? I didn't know the X series even got to that price level (even fully loaded)