/pcbg/ - PC Building General - 16 GiB Edition

>DOOM™ only uses 2 GiB of RAM
ayyy

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You guys have any success on Craigslist? I was looking for a cheap c2d $50 - 70 system to run my plex server this weekend but locally there's nothing here. There's some for that price on ebay but plus shipping is damn near $100. At that price point, I can almost build a new Celeron 1151 system and not be caged into a shitty Optiplex case. Thoughts?

>only supporting at most 2 720 transcodes
>want expandability for more hard drives down the line

>>57708785
Yeah just start over. Buying shit that old is not advisable and you are definitely paying a premium due to its scarcity. $200 gets you what you want brand new (Celeron build) and you get the satisfaction of knowing it's not going to just shit out on you for no reason anytime soon.

is it worth waiting till the m.2 nvme ssd become cheaper? Im still using a 10000rpm velociraptor for my main os and i was looking into ssdrives but since my mobo already has the m.2 slots and seeing how much faster than regular ssd they are i was wondering howmuch real life improvement i would get.

>>57708910
The jump just from HDD to SATA SSD alone will be well worth it. NVME m.2 is like 4x faster (in theory) than the typical 2.5" SATA SSDs that are selling today but I'm not sure how much that translates to "real world" user experience relative to just how much faster it feels to have your OS finally not tied down to a spinning mechanical disk.

I don't think you'll be disappointed if you decide to run your OS on a SATA SSD coming from being used to an HDD (even a "fast" one) if that makes any sense, having said that, m.2 is obviously superior, just more costly.

If I'm going to spring for the 6700K and a 1080 is 3200 speed ram worth it if my board supports it?

>>57709224
It will have so little impact vs even 2400 MHz RAM that it's almost not worth mentioning. Faster the better though, so if you can afford it, go for it. They're usually close enough in price that there's no reason to get slower RAM.

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>>57709365
>theyre usually close enough in price that there's no reason to get slower RAM

but if theyre close enough in performance why is there any reason to buy more expensive RAM?

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>>57709447
DDR4 prices are all over the map. You can probably find DDR4 3000 on sale right fucking now that's cheaper than some DDR4 2133 that's just as good/reliable, whatever. The point is there is practically no difference in price, so obviously go with the one that is objectively better, even if it is not easily measurable it will obviously have an impact on performance in just about everything.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA

>700 dollarydoos
W E W L A D

Not for me, but a friend asked me to help him with a build.

Purpose: amateur video editing.
Budget: $1000 Canadian Rupees.
Current part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NP7mFd

I decided to go with 6700k since main purpose is video work, would've gone with 32GB RAM, but have to shave off money somehow. Possible upgrade path. Told him I highly recommend SSD for OS/programs, another possible upgrade.

Would he really need a Z170 Mobo? From my understanding he might not be able to OC, or not as much.

Is the GPU okay? From what I've read it won't matter nearly as much as the CPU. I don't know if he should cut back on the GPU further since he does game.

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>>57709659
>i5 6402P

>>57709786
The GPU is just barely "okay" for playing modern games. It's really more suitable as an upgrade in a prebuilt Wal-Mart PC.

Everything else sounds really good for what he's going to be doing and staying within a reasonable budget.

That case is surprisingly nice for a budget case, used one for a family member once.

If I were him I'd skip the 1050 Ti and just use the integrated graphics on the CPU while getting reacquainted with some old classic games or emulators to kill time while I saved some dough for a real GPU.

>>57709786
>>57709854
Forgot to mention that the Z mobo is necessary for OC and there is no reason not to do it if you get the 6700 "k" version. It's literally as easy as clicking a few buttons in your bios to increase your performance 10-20%.

That cooler will be adequate for mild/moderate OC.

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Is buying a graphics card with 16 GiB worth it?

>>57709881
Only if you wish to fall for the meme.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHpfFd
Is $120 for a 256 GB 850 pro a good deal? Any reasons I should get Evo instead?
>inb4 poorfags

So frustrating looking at mobos online. What mobos do you guys have and are you satisfied with them? I need some recs.

>>57710064
If you don't want to OC just get the cheapest compatible mobo with all features you need.
If you want to OC than you also want the board to have as many "CPU power phases" as possible.

That's it. Whether the board is from Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte or MSI doesn't matter.

What's your opinion about an office pc with an amd 5350 with 8 gb ram?

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This piece of shit worth 20 bucks? I don't have a client pc that would work. Seems alright in terms of lag for single player games, and it supports a bunch of controllers. Only reservation is the performance hit on the host PC making me lose hella fps.

I need a psu in the 650w range but none seem to be marked down for black friday, any chance prices will drop for cyber monday?

>>57710174
>I need a psu in the 650w range
No, you don't since SLI is not worth it.

>>57710153
Adequate. Get an SSD for the OS.

>>57710170
For $20, I'd say it's worth giving a shot. I haven't used it myself though so I can't comment from experience but reviews were pretty positive last year.

>>57710400
Im the amd guy, What OS would be better, windows 7,8 or 10? I'm planning to install office 2016 in it, maybe a 240 ssd

>>57710424
I've used all three of those and they all work totally fine. Windows 10 has the newest features and will have support for the longest, but it's also loaded with telemetry backend stuff that sends data back to Microsoft, if that bothers you.

I'd use whatever you can get for the cheapest of those three.

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What's the best bang for my buck when it comes to SSD's? I need something around 128 Gb-ish.

>60hz monitor
>get 40-45 fps with lots of enemies and effects on screen in dark souls 3
>it's noticable, but game is still perfectly playable

>get 40-45 fps with lots of enemies and effects on screen in the witcher 2
>game feels like a stuttering slide show with unpredictable camera turns etc

can anyone explain to a retard? is this the "micro stutter" people complain about? TW2 made me think years ago that you HAD to maintain 60fps (or your monitor's refresh) if you wanted smooth gameplay, now I don't think that's probably the case.

>>57710559
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=134396

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>>57708638

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>>57710648
>>57708638

>>57709629
>objectively better

What are timings for 500, Alex.

>>57709881
>2816 is somehow more than 2880
>.7% advantage in SP TFLOPS

w e w

>>57710064
Gigabyte Ultra Durable for OC and good audio, doesn't need to be the designated gaymur line.

>>57710648
kek

OP here, I saw this in that other thread from earlier today and laughed the fuck out loud as I saved it. Surprisingly enough I had already made this OP or I would have certainly used this image.

>>57710064
I also have a Gigabyte Ultra Durable line. It's been okay. Had to RMA the first one after it failed ~2months into use but the replacement has been alright for about a year.

Fuck any of the gaymer aesthetic models.

>>57709854
I must dispute your claims regarding the 1050 Ti. It sits at or above a 960 in various benchmarks, and packs 4GB of VRAM at that. It's fully capable of delivering performance worlds beyond the best I integrated solutions. It's reasonably priced, too!

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>>57710844
>implying a 960 is good

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>>57710844
>It sits at or above a 960 in various benchmarks

Hardly anything to write home about. Anyway, the composite benchmarks I've seen place it just below the 960, but like I said, that's nothing to get too excited about.

I'm a big proponent of just "buying what you need" but in this case, for like $30 more you can almost double your GPU horsepower. There isn't any other jump like that to be made for so little money in the entire GPU stack on either side of the aisle.

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Purpose: Moderate gaming, schoolwork, and I've begun to dabble in 3D design (Fusion 360).

My budget flew all over the place, and then right out the window :^)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77hhD3

I just purchased a Node 202 from Newegg, there's a $20 discount down from $79 going on until Monday. I'm planning to downsize considerably. I purchased a CPU/MOBO/RAM combo on eBay this past summer for a VERY good price, consisting of an i5-4690, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM, and the reason I lusted for the auction, an Asus Z97-PLUS Mini ITX motherboard. I sold the processor about a month ago due to a bit of a financial scare, and everything smoothed out. Super excited to get the Node 202.


R o a s t m e

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7szqBP
I'm not even building this, but here is a good list for any anon looking to get 1080 / 60fps without overclocking. I just like making lists.
My goal was to make a $800 total including win10. I had it way under, so I added this cute little cooler to keep noise down and temps lower.

>>57710970
err derp. Obviously don't buy 16gb of ram if you're on a $800 budget.
For the SSD btw, I figured the prospective builder might have an old HDD lying around for mass storage. If 480gb is not enough for you, get a 120gb SSD and a 1tb hitachi drive and the price will be about the same.

>>57710917
It's better than settling for integrated.

>>57710938
At least he'd have a sporting chance at running games all pretty-like with a 1050 Ti. A friend of mine runs a 960, and I'm always impressed by its real world performance.

>>57710970
Making component lists is my fucking drug dude

>>57710970
>>57710996
Also, if you're keen on making it almost exactly $800, get a Crucial Mx300 525gb SSD for $120.

>>57710970
I agree with the first anon, I would nix half the RAM, then scootch a few things around to sneak in a 480 or a 6GB 1060.

>>57710478
Thanks a lot

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>>57711012
>>57711036
>At least he'd have a sporting chance at running games all pretty-like with a 1050 Ti.

Whatever, but that's not a defense for making a shitty purchase. The fact that a 960 "looks nice" on your friends PC doesn't hide the fact that it's been probably one of the worst price performers of the past 5 years.

The 1050 Ti is nice for a variety of reasons but none of them are related to their actual performance. They're advertised at the pre-built market that has no choice in the matter due to case size/PSU limitations and that's where they belong and where their MSRP makes sense.

Dunno if this is the right place. But I figured I'd ask anyway.

My brother is turning 15 in january, and it's about time he got his own gaming PC, rather than having to share. So I figured I'd build him a cheap, used computer.

He doesnt really do all that much heavy gaming (2011 Skyrim with no mods is probably the most taxing game I've seen him play). So I figured I could repurpose my old Core 2 Quad Q6600 as his first platform? I've got a decent mobo supporting OC (Aiming for 3.0ghz on the Q6600).

The only problem I have is the graphics card. I'd like to target either high/ultra 720p or medium to medium high 1080p capable card. Any suggestions?

A few limiting factors is the newer RX series cards, or the 1050ti is off the table. I'm not going to fork out five times the money of the CPU to a fancy graphics card. The Q6600 isint that capable anymore, plus my brother doesnt do heavy gaming to warrant either a new, or even all that powerful GPU.

>>57711125
Not a rx460?
If he wants to play games at 1080p he's gonna need a GPU that isn't trash, maybe look into used 750/ti?

>>57711125
Depends on the power supply but this is a situation where a card like the 1050 Ti might actually make sense.

>>57711111
I respect your facts and your quints, but I would hate to build a pc then be forced to stare at it and bigger game titles while waiting for a chunk of change. A fun thought, though, might be to do the 1050, then do a Craigslist for a while, to find some decent-to-shit HP or Dell, then plug in the 1050 Ti, and sell it for profit. Then it'd just be matter of waiting for a deal to present itself for maximum profit. And he'd be able to game! Just sounds fun to me :)

>>57711170
HIS just announced a single slot PCIe powered RX460 if power draw ends up being a major concern. Just as well, MSI also announced a half height, PCIe powered 1050/Ti.

>>57710969
Your budget flew out the windows because you made bad choices. You dont need 6 physical cores to "dabble in 3d design".

>20$ fan on $400 cpu
>$230 meme mobo
>a fucking 950 that youre paying extra to be white when youll never fucking see it

Just get a fucking i7 6700k and a z170 and save yourself the money on the minimal performance upgrade and use that to get a graphics card that isnt already obsolete.

>>57711170
The power source is a 550 watt Coolermaster box.It should be enough for something a bit more demanding.

But as I said. I'm fully aware of cards lit the RX-460 or the 1050ti. I'm just not really all that keen on investing in a brand new card, when the hardware itself is... Well quite frankly obsolete.

Someone mentioned the 750ti How capable is that? I used to have an R9 270x in my main rig. The 270x has been in my mind for quite some time, as they can be acquired fairly cheaply aswell. Does anyone have any benchmarks comparing the two cards?

>>57709786
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MfYMTH This is about as good as i can do for your friend anon. If you want to squeeze a 6700k into a $1kCAD build you need to seriously cut some corners. Note the 6700k is actually $3 cheaper than the non-k right now, so why the fuck not right?
going to an $1100 budget lets you get less shitty parts though. Or drop to a 6600k which is still pretty damn good once you dial in a bit of clock speed.

>>57711291
Both of those are fine for what you said he wants to play and are fairly equivalent. Go find a used 750ti because people are going to be dumping their old cards now.

>>57708854

thanks lad, yeah I think you are right...thanks

>>57711242
See, I didn't really know what all I was getting into when I built my baby.. a friend-who-isn't-the-friend-with-the-960 had a 5820k, and at that point, I barely understood how a 6700k could possibly not be better than something with a smaller-number-name. I basically tried to copy his prebuilt Cyberpower(?) prebuilt. Same CPU, same motherboard. I had initially planned to upgrade to a Pascal card when I went for the 950, and I will admit, I wanted something pretty to look at while I waited. This was back in April or March.

By dabble, I truly mean dabble. I'm struggling to build a snowglobe.

I hope to fix some of my mistakes with the Node 202 conversion. I'd lusted after a quality gaming PC for a good while when I put my Angel together; and I considered her to be my opus at the time of completion. I now know that to be false :/

The though the 950 hauls ass in a lot of games, the main limiter being the 2 gigs of VRAM :(

>>57711355
*"The 950 hauls ass.."

Muh mobile

Is there any truth to the saying "there's always something better around the corner" when it comes to building PCs? So you shouldn't necessarily wait for the next big thing?

>>57711392
Fuck yeah, ask the people who bought 980's

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>>57711242
Not him but I have a 212 Evo on a 5820k. Fite me.

>>57711417
I have two aftermarket fans on mine, temps never exceed 60°


212pride

>>57711329
Hrm. I keep reading that the 270x might perform better. I guess it comes down to price in that case. I've seen both cards fetch for about 80€ in the used market here in Finland. With the 750ti occasionally spiking as high as 110€. The 270x (Or even the 270. they're basically the same damn card) meanwhile is a bit more consistent.

thanks regardless. You've helped narrow the field down quite a bit!

What are the best AIB full circuit liquid cooling set ups? Full system meaning GPU and CPU. I'm not gonna bother spending +$80 to cool my ram.

>>57711307
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77hhD3 here's the list with a 6600k, this should allow a decent overclock to around 4.1 or 4.2 before temps get nasty. It won't have 6700k performance, but you get a case that isn't shit, an ssd, a way better GPU, and dual-channel memory.

>>57711125
You should find your brother a used gtx 960 or something along those lines. Browse craigslit/ ebay for used gpu's. I've seen a used 960 go as low as $75. A 950 will also probably be suitable for his needs.

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>>57711434
Damn, I don't think I've ever seen mine over 50 after a few hours of BF4 while streaming. What speed you running at their fampai?

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ok so i have this project to make a form factor pc.

i want to overkill it a little to run present games and future games at 60fps.

i just bought

i5-6600k
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard

but i dont know what GPU should i buy, i dont know nothing about gpu memes, and i dont want to buy something to expensive (ie 400usd) that runs exactly like something cheaper

what do you recomend?

>>57711392
Always
Or at least devs will always optimize for what's newest and "better", leaving the fully capable older tech in the dust of incompatibility

>>57711503
I just let the motherboard's built in OC button do whatever it does. Any time I try to fuck with it, something always goes wrong. It runs at 3.9Ghz, stock being 3.3Ghz.

>>57711506
At 1080p try a 480 or 470 if you're super Jewish
At 1440p or higher hz maybe a 1070 would do it
Don't forget the get the stupid fucking blower style cards

>>57711506
I think your best bet would be a Founder's Edition 1070; though not necessarily from Nvidia. FE because they're the best blower style coolers, vs. MSI or Corsair, and blower style is best for small form factor systems

Are 3tb HDD's still less reliable then both 2 and 4 tb drives?

>>57711544
I say best, based on mostly the fan quality, concerning which I have read about problems in other-brand cards

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>replacing mobo and cpu for the first time
>run around like a headless chicken for a day because i forgot how to plug everything in apparently
>apparently i needed to reinstall the entire fucking os because the mobo wasn't compatible with my previous install
>just sitting here running transfers from my windows.old folder before i format the partition and merge it with the partition i had to create for the install

I had no fucking idea that upgrading a mobo was this labor-intensive. At least I didn't make any major fuckups like damaging it or the processor.

>wanted a new mobo for a long while because my old one is a piece of shit
>turns out my i7 is old as dirt and the socket type for it was discontinued which cost me an i5 that's about as good as the i7 i had
>mfw

>>57711566
Sounds like you didn't research before you bought shit.
Also why didn't you just dump your important files on an external, reinstall the OS, then drag and drop them back over?

>>57711566
Pulling OS installs across different motherboards can really be hit and miss :(

>>57711562
>>57711544
>>57711531
thanks, i will check the 1070

>>57711597
because i'm too retarded to move everything to the third partition beforehand and too poor to afford an external

I didn't fuck it up at least, and the new CPU fan is unbelievably quiet in comparison to the old one I had.

>>57711606
You may also consider Gigabyte's 1070 mini and pray for good airflow, to my best knowledge it is well under $400, and one of the cheapest 1070s overall

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>>57711623
>buying mini versions of gpus
>cucking yourself

>>57711606
>>57711623
if you're only gaming at 1080p (or even entry level 1440p) a gtx 1060 is also sufficient. Asus Turbo 1060 (6gb) is $249 with a hefty $30 rebate on newegg right now. That is what I recommend.

>>57711606
Luckily the blower style 1070s are cheap because nobody needs them, like $380 for an asus blower one, the founders edition is more expensive for really no good reason so look for other blowers

>>57711674
The Asus blower lacks a backplate, though, and that may be a factor in such a closed-quarter build. Also plastic shroud, and my point about sub-par fans still stands, minor be it may

Is a 6700k/z170/1080 enough for VR?

>>57711669
>Asus Turbo 1060 (6gb) is $249 with a hefty $30 rebate on newegg right now. That is what I recommend.
checking that right now

>>57711716
i couldn find any 1070 under 400usd (only the mini which is 380)

>>57711656
>implying the 1070 Mini doesn't have higher clocks than several other options

>inb4 temps/throttling, don't be petty

>>57711733
lol yes. A 6500/b150/ gtx 1060 is enough for VR.

>>57711733
An FX-8350 paired with a single RX-480 is VR capable.

What a stupid question. Of course it's gonna be enough for VR you dingus.

>>57711716
But a backplate is not a factor, the shroud isn't the heatsink, and show me where we can find specific models of fans used in GPU coolers because a lot of people would like to know
I really hope you're not referring to the "premium materials" of the founders edition card that's over $50 more

>>57711737
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=369&sort=a8&page=1

?

>>57711756
>>57711762
thanks again

>>57711756
Backplate isn't a factor up until you have shit touching the PCB in the cramped case. Fuck if I know where you could find that information, I've just read that the other blower style coolers start to whine before the reference designs. I have no beef with plastic, metal is just nifty-er.

Is 6600k and 1060 6gb a sensible pairing. I don't need a beefier GPU, but I would like to be able to OC for the sake of futureproofing. Does that make sense?

>>57711746
>>57711752
Huh

Doesn't VR require like at least 90fps though and isn't the total resolution output on something like the vive around 1440p?

I would have figured on a demanding game it would struggle a bit to reach that.

>>57711752
yes but get zen as soon as it comes out

>>57711762
the build looks good, an i5 and 480 are a good combo

>>57711806
Total resolution is doubled when it's rendering two points of the same scene, it's not like it's playing two games for each eyehole

>>57711803
If you're interested in future proofing, delete the 1060 for a 480. 1060's don't support SLI. Also, 3/6GB of VRAM is trash and will always be a shitty move by Nvidia, imho

>>57711806
VR doesn't necessarily require 90fps, but you/your brain/your eyes do, unless you want motion sickness

>>57711830
I'm going for mITX
and SLI doesn't sound attractive to me at all

>>57711802
I know the FE looks dank, but that's $70 more than the asus one
I guess if he's going for a dan case money is not an issue...

>>57711817
Not muh build, friend-o

>>57711803
Futureproofing your cpu is fine-ish. Futureproofing your GPU is retarded because they keep improving each generation, unlike cpu's. If I bought a gtx 980 for "futureproofing" I'd be moderately upset to see a much cheaper 1060 more or less equal it.
That said, i think a 1060-6gb or Rx 480 will be good cards for well over 2 years.

Current parts list
>i7 6700k
>16GiB of ram ddr4 at 3000MHz
>gtx 780
>2 1TB hard drives
>1 500 GB hard drive
>Asus z170-A motherboard
>seasonic 620 watt PSU

What should I add upgrade other than GPU

>>57711853
Then it's perfect bb <3

>>57711872
I want to be able to upgrade GPU once after a couple years, but not worry about CPU at all.

>>57711876
>16GiB of ram ddr4 at 3000MHz
based

Get a Fury :^)

>>57711876
Really nothing, other than the GPU you've got a pretty godly rig, perhaps an SSD?

>>57711891
No thank you I already have plans to get either a 1070 or a 1080

>>57711891
Translation: Get a 970 for cheaper

Hell, for the price of a Fury, buy a used Titan off eBay for $350.

>>57711906
If you have that 780 already just wait for the 1080ti and take out a mortgage to get one

>>57711904
I was considering it would be nice to kick windows off my hard drives

>>57711889
are you 1080p/ 60hz? if so, a 1060-(6gb) is probably a tad overkill. I'm getting 80-ish fps in Witcher 3 with my 6600k (4.1ghz) and Rx 480. I usually cap it at 60 just to lower temps a little. But I plan on keeping the 480 for 2 years minimum.

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>>57711853
>>57711881
im building a mITX too, whats sli?

>>57711929
>are you 1080p/ 60hz?
I don't see much alternative that I wouldn't regret in two years

>>57711849
That's like saying X game doesn't nessacarily require 30fps.

It's technically true but why bother then?

So let me clarify: If I want to play VR games coming out in the next 3-4 years at framerates that won't give me a headache, will that hardware be sufficient?

>>57711920
The Fury (non-X) was on sale for $260 this weekend. Not a worldbeater or anything but definitely better than a 970 cuck card even at 1080p.

>>57711932
pairing two identical GPUs. mITX only fit one, so it's not a concern.
it's also not cost-efficient

>>57711921
I was thinking that by the time I have the money put away it would be out and I could consider the options then

>>57711928
It's a parasite friend, cast it out

>>57711957
i love tl;dr
thanks

>>57711957
>it's also not cost-efficient
depends

>>57711993
it's wonky, at the very least

>>57711952
Honestly, I couldn't say where VR is going to go in the next few years. It would be sufficient, but probably not stellar in the not-all-too-distant future..

>>57711957
Looks cool as shit tho

muh aesthetics

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRBwkT How's this look as an upgrade for my current system?

Before I was running : fx 6300 with a 212evo / gtx 960/ 500w 80+ not-even-bronze psu.
My am3+ motherboard shit the bed on me, and i figured since I'm having to swap boards I might as well do a whole system overhaul. Sold my CPU and DDR3 to a friend for cheap. Planning to off my 960 on craigslist, hope to get at least $90 out of it.

>>57712021
an empty pcie slot looks stupid, I'll give you that

>>57712035
Looks like a sensible path to me.

Shit, for $90, I'll gladly take it off your hands. 4gb?

>>57712035
Why do you all go MSI? I don't understand this? Who the hell is shilling for them that hard?

>>57712043
Right?

>>57712056
>cheapest card of the chipset on the market with arguably the best cooling of the generation, paired with a striking asthetic that easily can be complimented with a flat black mobo and some red ram.
What's not to get? I don't know why anybody would buy any other 480. The 470's are a bit different. The XfX dual fan one is probably the best option. But you're only saving $30 vs the msi 480.
>>57712054
yeah 4gb. I snagged it on sale for $190. I'm going to list it at $110 because people always haggle on CL.

>>57712108
>>57712056
Also, reputable brand much?

>>57712123
Asus and gigabyte are a ton more reputable than MSI

https://youtu.be/kSCVahyh3Dk

question: will the GPU prices get lower in the next 3 months?

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>>57712333
It's unlikely

>>57712383
Oh that's such an inflated price, though one can't argue that 980's haven't observed a fraction of the price drops that 970's and 980Ti's have

>>57712333
They tend to have a generally downwards trend. But no guarantees that they'll be significantly cheaper unless something new is released(fingers crossed for vega) and even then it wont affect all price ranges equally.

>>57711508
yeah the nvidia ones, ati older gpus gain performance with time nvidias gimps older cards to sell new ones

>>57712846
Amd gimps too if you haven't been paying attention, it's what happens in a market that relies on several groups trying to stay on the same page

>>57708638
whats wrong with 16 gigs? seems it really helps in open world games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDlFyd6GS6g

What's the maximum amount of vram GTA V uses?

Will a 6gb gpu do me?

>>57713453
>how much dedotated wam do I need

What is the Roswell Line M like for a first time build?
Would I have difficulty with cable management? I'm just trying to get an i3-6100 and the nvidia 1050 in there.

>>57713775
*Rosewill

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Thoughts/Rate? Cost about $640, one ssd, and the hard drives were taken from my old pc.

>>57714076
>1060
you fucked up

>>57714087
How so? I got it for $190.

>>57714168
>shit that never happened

The heatspreader usually only improves the look of your kit and definitively doesn’t improve the performance. The power consumption of a memory stick is very low and even without a heatspreader the sticks would work without any problems.

Like I already explained in Myth #1, almost all module-vendors use the same memory ICs across all of their kits. The kits only differ in overclockability, stock clocks, looks and stuff included in the delivery. So there is no such thing like overclocking or gaming memory!

is it true? I always thought you need special cooled OC ram for oc-ing

>>57714320
Heat spreaders have become an unavoidable annoyance more than anything you either have some retarded looking tumor on your ram you you buy the lowest tier stuff

Is it stupid to get an X99 chipset motherboard and CPU just to use more drives? I'm talking six 6TB HDDs in RAID 10.

>>57714561
I would say to get this instead

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16816124087&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle-Mobile&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-Mobile-_-Hard+Drive+Controllers+/+RAID+Cards-_-Syba-_-16124087&gclid=Cj0KEQiAperBBRDfuMf72sr56fIBEiQAPFXszbSH6yCA-pWcyuiivLu3WRxPGHuKG9qiWP0wt7yzF3waAlep8P8HAQ

>>57714609
Never mind don't get that one I didn't see those reviews looks like a retard made it

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Looking to get into 1080p/60fps gaming along with some engineering programs (cad, solidworks, etc) and video editing). This is my first build and it's obviously a budget one but it still feels too expensive for what's there.

I can't change the case. Any ideas where else I can save or redistribute money?

>>57714667

CPU cooler and Z170 motherboard are unnecessary with the 6100.

And without the Z170 mobo you can't use high speed RAM, so you can get cheaper RAM.

The 850 EVO is super expensive. You can save some money getting a cheaper SSD.

>>57714561
Why not get just any motherboard with 6 Sata ports? Why does it need to be an x99 chipset?

I built a ps4 killer budget machine for $400 over a year and a half ago.
What should I upgrade first cpu or gpu
>gtx 770
>g3258 oc

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zXDvqk

can't wait considering my current speccy

>>57714686
okay, thank you. do you think it's ridiculous to have an rx 480 with the 6100?

>>57714728

Because that's six ports just for the RAID array.

Say you want to have a six HDD RAID array, a dual SSD RAID array, an M.2 boot drive and an ODD. You need an X99 motherboard to do it.

The question is whether or not it's even worth having that much storage on a desktop instead of in a NAS.

>>57714782

You could probably go down to a 470 but a 480 isn't ridiculous. The 6100 is a fast chip.

>>57714832
Probably just get the Nas would be cheaper in the end

>>57714842

Cheaper? Not a chance.

The cost difference between a 6700k and 6800k build is $200-250 depending on what mobos you're comparing. If you build your own server you're paying more than that (unless you have the parts laying around), and if you're buying an enclosure you're paying WAY more than that.

"Worth it" isn't about cost, it's about practicality. The practicality is in not having your data tied to your desktop. If your desktop goes out of commission for whatever reason your data is still accessible. That comes at a heavy price premium.

Going to be putting a 6GB 1060 into a Corsair 350D case.

I can get a non reference blower style card by Asus or I can get a open air dual 1060.

Which would be the best option that you guys recommend for temps?

>>57715075
Then even in that case I would say a Nas is the better idea and I hear m.2 slots where still iffy as far as stealing bandwidth from other ports

>>57715176
Dual fan, sorry.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/gHg2bj

Is this an ok build for 1080p gaming and shitposting (and some photo editing) that willl last a few years? I'll probably overclock it
Or can I save money by getting 2133 RAM? I'm in sweden but it's usually cheaper to buy from UK or germany.

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I've been told to wait till Q1 2017 before I update mobo + RAM, any truth to that?

not sure i'm looking to upgrade anything else, maybe a new HDD.

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16820147466

Is this worth getting now that I have an m.2 slot on my board and never plan to use Sata express? Would it be better to get a Sata SSD instead

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YCwRgL

Ok. So I used one of the saved pcbgs that was on the op as a template since I always make shit builds no matter how much I learn about picking the right components.

The only thing that was different was the ram because the one that was showed on the op wasn't there so I replaced it with something similar. Also I increased the HDD from 2TB to 4TB because I like the storage and I added an optical drive.

I didn't customize any further but I think I should. Personally I'm not really happy with this build. It looks bland and I'm kind of sick of cheap black cases. I just want a build that looks really nice particularly the case.

Also I think I should tell you what I want out of this pc. I'm not typically a gamer, but my brother wants to play overwatch on high settings at 1080p. The computer I have now makes this game unplayable at 1600x900 (pic related is my speccy. I personally want more storage for my music and my movies and other multimedia stuff. I also want my pc to look nice and work fast ofc.

I was reading the overwatch game guide on Logicalincrements and it says it plays very smoothly at 1080 around outstanding and exceptional tier. Now I tried copying the builds for that since I assume it is updated but usually when I show the build, people here say it's shit. I personally don't know since I'm a tech illiterate pc building novice but are logicalincrements' builds not good?

I wouldn't mind spending around the $1000-1400 range, but I'm getting kinda frustrated having these things handed to me instead of figuring it out myself. I watch videos, and I read reviews but I still make crappy unnecessary builds.

Anyways, sorry for my blog and my tech illiteracy. I don't know what I'm doing to be honest and I've been looking for components all day yesterday. I just want my pc just to be a little more interesting. Any help would be great.

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Just about to buy all this junk. r8 before I do.

>>57715361
You don't need rating since you've already done your research.

>>57715361
boring

>>57715361
i would get a different cpu cooler
liquid is nice

>>57715413
>boring

It's a PC build not an art project go eat a rotary saw
>>57715440
That cooler will do him fine I have one on my 6700k and it performs well

>>57715320
>interesting

Fill it with venomous spiders that way every time you touch it you have a 1 in 5 chance of dying

Is that interesting enough for you?

>>57715477
Come on man, just help me out here please.

>>57715458
I believe you, but I keep mine OC'd to 4.6 ghz and it rarely goes above 30'C with an h100

Are the Sandisk SSD any good? They are the cheapest brand in my country.

>>57715512
>rarely goes above 30c

Ya and my dick is 25 inches long and as thick as a tree trunk unless you live in Alaska or the south pole that's just a ridiculous claim

>>57715511
OK first off why do you have an optical drive?

Secondly that's a Nas drive and it's from Hitachi they have a horrible track record

And third I think the price on that 1070 is a bit high

And what is this "more interesting" it's a PC build its only meant to work well not be pretty or some art project

>>57715531
>tfw im actually trying to heat my room with pc components since our heat doesnt work right now

I have a 2500k at 4.5Ghz

Will it bottleneck a 1070 if i get one?

>>57715648
Unlikely. I've heard rumours that the 2500k at those clockspeeds is somewhat comparable to an i5 6400. So it shouldnt bottleneck.

>>57715583
>OK first off why do you have an optical drive?
I was going to use to install my windows 7 ultimate disc.

>Secondly that's a Nas drive and it's from Hitachi they have a horrible track record
>And third I think the price on that 1070 is a bit high
What would you suggest? I took the 1070 from the saved build that was on the OP.

>And what is this "more interesting" it's a PC build its only meant to work well not be pretty or some art project
I can't have something that looks a little nice. Maybe like a different case. My life it boring and since I spend most of my time on the computer it would hurt to have a case that isn't black and boring. It know it's meant to work and not to be pretty but it wouldn't hurt to get a nicer case right?

Also the mobo I have is from Gigabyte. Should I change that since it doesn't have a nice reputation with the some of the reviews I read on newegg and some of the comments made here?

Also thanks for trying to help me. Any more advice would be great, man.

>>57715699
If you want an interesting case you sure picked a boring one but as far as interesting look up Thermaltake

>>57715717
I didn't pick it. I just used the one that was suggested on the on the op. I will check thermaltake out, thanks.

>>57715663

Thanks. Im quite sure my ddr3 1866 ram will bottleneck it though. Im getting a 3000.

Thoughts on this case?

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-VERSA-Gaming-Computer-CA-1G9-00M6WN-00/dp/B01LZ5X3KE

>>57715775
Ram frequency? Bottlenecking a GPU? I'm not sure about that either. But hey, your build, your choises.

Are noctua fans memes or are they the best fans out there?

>>57715824
>>57715775

Faster RAM get you a few extra FPS, but it isnt what i would call a bottleneck.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpdsnn

What do you guys think? Should I change anything? I don't mind increasing the price by like $150 or something.

Is it possible to transfer an OS between hard drives? I'm building a new PC soon and I want to run it primarily on an SSD with a backup HDD, and I already have an HDD from my old one with Windows 7 on it. Any way I can recycle the OS for dual booting?

alot of people shit on corsair psus, why is that?

>>57710970
>650w psu
>when you system wont ever break 300w
>480ssd

small ssd to boot + regular hdd. much cheaper/cost effective

>>57714168
Pretty sure 1060 (3gb) > Rx 480 (4gb) > 1060 (6gb)

>>57716637
It was the cheapest decent quality semimodular also bronze unit on PCPartPicker. I also addressed the storage in a follow-up post.

>>57716573
Only the CX power supplies. They're made in Chinese factories with a Corsair logo slapped on. They have crappy capacitors, shitty wiring and only deliver full power if kept under 30c.

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>>57708638
Eyy, simple shit here. My buddy sent me this build asking for help, said a steam friend put it together for him:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4ZtKZ

I called the guy an idiot for pairing a non-K i5 with a Z710 mobo and dropping $100 on a seasonic modular 80+Plat when corsair's got a 600W on sale for $25 and built this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWDDkT

I'm not wrong to think he was retarded, I'm pretty sure of that. What I'm not sure of is if I'm retarded.

Am I retarded, /g/? Can you improve that build at all?

If they were both the same price, would an ASUS 1080 be better than an ASUS Titan X?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Geforce-Founders-Graphics-DisplayPort-PCI-Express/dp/B01FTZEES4/ref=sr_1_65
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-NVIDIA-TITAN-Graphics-DL-DVI-I/dp/B00UVQKZBW/ref=sr_1_66

Or should I just wait for a new card or a price drop?
(poor britbong - can't buy from newegg)

Is buying components from the uk cheaper than buying it here in America?

>>57716868
That's got to be a Maxwell Titan X, not a Pascal one, right? The 1080 outperforms the Maxwell Titan X by quite a bit, but it doesn't out perform the Pascal Titan X.

>>57716835
See
>>57716751
The best cheapo power supplies are evga imo.
Your friend probably doesn't want to overclock so get them a 6500 and either use the free cooler or use a $10 one just to reduce noise. Throw in a 1tb hitachi drive.

>>57717000
Not really. UK is usually heavily overpriced.

>>57717012
Thanks, I thought this was the case.
Well now here's another thing that's screwing my head.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-STRIX-GTX1080-08G-Gaminig-Graphics-GTX1080/dp/B01G92E9ZY/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?
If I had the choice, which would you recommend for a new graphics card? I see the zotac amp 1080 a lot in the thread but I'm not sure.
The place that's selling these cards has a lot of different ones listed for £399 which is ridiculously cheap for some of them.
[spoiler] only 5 left in stock [/spoiler]

>>57708638
Okay, so I asked a friend to build a computer for me (I don't know shit about hardware)
Can you guys do a once-over on it for me? Any bottlenecks? Any stupid things I don't need?
Purpose: Gaming PC
Budget: $900
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7nvJm8

Thinking of buying a new monitor on cyber memeday, which should I get?
>144mhz TN monitor
>60mhz IPS monitor
My budget can't afford a 144mhz IPS monitor, upgrading my gaymen setup.

I know it's been asked before, but should I buy a 1070 or 1080?

I can afford either, but is the price of the 1080 worth it if my plan is to play at 1440p@60 fps on high/ultra? Price seems to be ~$400 for a 1070 or ~$600+ for a 1080. Basically wondering if the performance gain is enough for me to not feel jewed.

>>57717098
The card I linked is the ASUS strig 1080. It's £399 ($500)

>>57717122
To be usable, a monitor should be at least 60 000 mhz.

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Forget how ugly it is, did I break it?

>>57717122

Save up a little longer and enjoy both worlds.

If you're impatient i'd say ips60, chances are you won't be playing at 144 on a budget unless you only stick to older games.

If you can save up more, I reccomend getting a monitor with adaptive sync.

>>57717073
Thanks for the Corsair tip.

But if I'm getting a 6500 why drop dosh an a Z170 chipset? They're sure as shit not doing SLI. So go with an H170 gigabyte mobo or something for like $60? They've got a 1TB lying around and a 1250 budget pre-monitor. i7 isn't worth because all they want to do is game, 1080 isn't worth because they're are 1080p60hz.

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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Venzan/saved/#view=7YYgsY

Realistically, if I just game in 1080p is the second build worth it or should I just stick to the more reasonable one?

>>57717109
Hyper 212x has shit price/performance ratio. Youll see a 2c drop from a 212evo at best. Only get the 212x if it's the same price. But yes either is enough to push a modest OC.

>>57717130
At ultra, a 1070 isn't quite guaranteed 60fps at all times. High settings? Probably. But you /will/ feel jewed with a 1080 if you are a penny pincher like me. I say go with the 1070. My friend is using a manually overclocked 1060 and hits 60 most of the time at 1440. Especially in lower demand titles like overwatch.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpdsnn

Anything I should change? I'm willing to spend just a little more.

>>57717172
Anon how the Fuck am I meant to tell if it's broken from this image?

>>57717210
>Realistically, if I just game in 1080p is the second build worth it

nah the first one is fine

second one is just overpriced if you don't care about 1440p

>>57717118
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckw9tJ Try this, you get an IPS panel.

Torrent windows.

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>>57717300
Cause I bought into "it's grown-up Legos" meme and I've been getting more and more frustrated with each passing hour. I don't care if I'm retarded where does the back panel connect?

What's a good motherboard for a 6700k/1080?

>>57717326
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130877 This seems to be the popular "no gaymer-shields" choice, but I don't know much about motherboards.

>>57717325
Look up a video on YouTube about how to build a computet

Hey guys, which is the most quiet GTX1080 card, especially in dual-SLI. Am used to Gigabyte cards but I was wondering if there were any that are more quiet.

On that note, are there any commendable cases+mobo as well that would fit very well with having these two cards.

>>57717357
Watercooled ones.

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>>57717347
You mean these? They are laughably easy to remove

Can I add this;

http://www.ebuyer.com/752930-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-g1-graphics-card-ebuyer-com-gv-n1060g1-gaming-6g

To my old motherboard in my ancient computer?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-ga-h55m-ud2h-intel-h55-socket-1156-ddr3-microatx-motherboard-mb-233-gi.html

I have a 660Ti in the board right now.

>>57717322
makes sense, I was actually planning on getting a smaller hard drive anyway.
Now I just have to man up and learn how to torrent an OS...

>>57717298
help me

>>57717322
>torrent windows
Enjoy your malware, poorfag.

>>57717440

get a 6gb video card

8gb is a meme

>>57717426
Umm yes? Is the 660ti agp or something?

>>57717373
Any normal ones? I'm a bit frustrated from watercooling in past experiences.

So, which brand should I choose for GTX 1080?

>>57717453
Will it play overwatch on high settings at 1080p?

>>57717510
My 780 does that

>>57717510

yes

>>57715229

Could I get any info on this? I'm pretty tech illiterate when it comes to upcoming information

anything else I should replace / upgrade at the same time?

>>57717445
>he doesn't get ISOs straight from M$
>he wants to give them more money
actually, buy windows 10 premium.

>>57717531
ok, is this good now?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JM46qk

>>57717588
nice meme

>>57717592


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zXDvqk

>>57717615
>1tb
>all his have 4

>>57717476
Whichever looks best, I reccomend msi if you don't care.

Just avoid EVGA for now unless you buy it directly from them, since the thermal pad fiasco

what brand for cheap ssd? NOT intel or samsung

>>57717615
this is shit

>>57717644

>needing that much to begin with
>buying a single HDD larger than 2TB

lel

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/lemonhands/saved/Z72Qzy
Posting this again since I botched it last time. Any suggestions?

I want a 1440p 144hz IPS but my only options seem to be Acer, Asus, and some chink shit (korean, technically) called Crossover. I hear Asus has garbage-tier QC, but the Acer one has this glossy red base and says "PREDATOR" on it like I'm 12 fucking years old. I wouldn't mind paying a premium to avoid the dice roll of dead pixels though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA90V4027327

How retarded would I be if I bought this?

>>57717379
Is this mobo good?

>>57717685

explain how

It's plays everything at 1920x1080 at 60fps max settings. Even GTA V.

>>57717510
That will play it at 1440p ultra settings. Wtf do you need a 4tb $200 hard drive for btw? Barely have 300gb written to my 1tb drive.

>>57717704
I like it seems to be a pain to hackintosh but it's not the end of the world

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So how do I install oem and buying a key from r/microsoftswap?

If I do a clean sweep is that even possible with this version? Should I just buy a legit key. It's $80 bugs versus saving $40

>>57717510
My 660ti has 2gb and can do that. OW is super light

>>57717542
DDR3 and motherboards with Intel's old chipsets are only going to get more expensive unless you're planning to buy used parts.

why is 16gb a meme?
how much do you need?

>>57717759

If you don't know if you need 16, you probably only need 8.

>>57717738
I download lots of JAV Porn and music..

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>>57717742
also...do they only sell it on disc? How the fuck do I install it if I have no disc ddrive

>>57717794
should have a disc drive, did you fall for the meme anon?
sure are saving a lot of space and money now aren't we.

>>57717711

Not him. I wouldn't say it's shit, but the mobo and CPU are already outdated.

What's a good and quiet CPU cooler?

>>57717711

No it doenst. Not a 1060. Will fluctuate between 45 to 60.

A 1070 has a huge jump and is good future proofing. 120 extra dollars today is 250 you wont have to spend in less than 3 years.

A i3 should be enough to combo with a 1060, unless you are completely sure you need the extra processing power (your will be rendering a LOT OF THINGS)

>2133MHZ DDR4

DDR4 have great 3k+ frequency ram, why settle for the low end?

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Which one should I get, guys?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875&ignorebbr=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871&ignorebbr=1

>>57717843
Also

>gigabyte

>>57717794

external disc drive

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_sg_whirlpoolpcs_gaming_configs_1

Which one is the best value for money?

Is 16 GB ram actually a meme?

>>57717900
No, 128GB ram is a meme though.

>>57717900

depends if you stream / video edit

not necessary just for playing vidya alone

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Want to buy two of these for a mATX build. The aim is to run games in 4k@60.

My CPU is 4790K @ 4.6. Two 8x PCIe 3.0 lanes. Can this be a bottleneck?

>>57717887

putting an i7 into the 2000 dollarydoos one

>>57717850
https://www.amazon.com/GeForce-Turbo-Ready-Graphic-TURBO-GTX1070-8G/dp/B01IPVTHL8/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480268510&sr=1-4&keywords=1070

Another alternative.

I haven't touched anything inside my PC since 2012, nor do I browse this board, so I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. Pretty tempted to go with the $380 Gigabyte card, though.

>>57717934
No
A 4790K at 4.6 is still as fast as the 6700K at 4.4GHz.

What the fuck is the difference between these two graphics cards? It is that it just has RGB lighting or higher boost clock?
It is worth the additional money and the size?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Nvidia-1060-GDDR5-PCI-E/dp/B01IOWT53S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480268743&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+1060+g1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GeForce-1060-Windforce-NVIDIA/dp/B01K7I7M00

I want to build a high-end gaymen PC, but it would take me until the end of January to allocate money and collect all the parts. Should I just want until February when new shit comes out?

>>57718005
and the PCIe bandwidth is fine too?

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I'm just going to buy a legit w10 product for $100

Which PC case brand doesn't suck?

>>57718114
PCIe bandwidth doesn't make a difference until you go down to 2.0 x4 or something like that.

>>57717794
>>57717742

Make a bootable flash drive, for Win7 you only need 4GB. Use Roofus and the windows iso downloader tool to get the ISOs direct from Microsoft for nothing.

>>57718129
then the reaction image you posted is appropriate, you face-twisting retard.
see >>57718183

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>>57718141
Fractal.

>and the PCIe bandwidth is fine too?
SLI off x8/x8 will be like 2-3% slower than x16/x16. Probably not a difference maker.

Having said that your plan to SLI in the first place is pretty fucktarded. SLI/CF are on the ropes, kid.

>>57717826
>Outdated
Wot? Are you referring to Kabylake/Zen?

Do gigabyte cards still fail a shitton or is that just a meme?

>>57718141
Fractal

>>57718210
This, go for a Titan X Pascal or something man. SLI/CF are on their way out.

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>>57717700
Please respond. I'm guessing since nobody's called me a faggot the build is alright, but I'm more concerned with this 1440p144hzIPS debacle.

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i7 + 8gb video card build that isn't insanely overpriced

can anyone do it?

>>57718210
>>57718260
Titan X is not powerful enough for 4k @ 60.

What else to do? Wait six months for the next gen?

>>57718331
>used i7-4960X+Z79 motherboard
>used R9 390X

>>57718295
Is that 2133 memory any good? You can get 3000 MHz for the same price.

Can't really help you much with the monitor stuff. It's really Russian roulette with any of these monitor companies right now, even the "premium" offerings.

Agree that gaymer aesthetic monitors are an embarrassment though.

>>57718331
>8gb video card
VRAM isn't the most important thing when considering the graphics card really. And it depends on what your definition of "insanely overpriced" is. How the fuck are we supposed to know what you think is insanely overpriced? See >>57718382 for a starting point though I guess.


>>57718344
>Titan X is not powerful enough for 4k @ 60.
Turn down some settings or just fucking deal with less than 60 fps -- or wait. I can tell you that SLI or Crossfire is not worth the headaches from experience. They're also dead technologies, neither company gives a shit about optimizing them for the future because 0.001% of their customer base isn't worth their time.

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Pick my next GPU, lads.

>>57718183
>idk what you're saying
>i need w10 to have the xbox app show me playing pc games
>I don't even have a usb
>can't do a full reset with pirated shit

more reason to go legit amirite?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CrXTzM

Thoughts?

>>57718428
But then there's DirectX 12, which supports multi-GPU rendering without SLI or Crossfire. Won't the game engines implement it eventually?

>>57718428
Far as I understand 3000MHz does nothing in games, and sometimes will cost you a frame or something trivial like that. Suppose if it's the same price it's worth it for other applications. Thanks for the heads up.

>>57718446

I'd do the msi

I'm looking to replace my current AMD 6850, right now i'm looking at the GTX 1050 off recommendation.

I'm not technically literate about this but is there a problem switching from AMD to Nvidia cards?

>>57718542
how to hack a game??
please its guidance??

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>>57718446
Check reviews and go with the one that has the quietest fan. I've had best luck with MSI for getting RMAs turned around quickly in the past, not that you even want to have to think about that.

>>57718482
Yo you need to be 18 to use this site.

>>57718530
Nobody knows. In theory, yes, but consider how much work this is for devs and how little of the market has multi GPU setups currently. In my opinion mGPU technology will become more important in 10-15 years or so when it's getting technologically impossible to continue die shrinks on silicon and processor manufacturers get forced into putting multiple GPU cores on single PCBs in an effort to increase performance. Bottom line is by the time this technology gets truly developed your graphics card will be totally obsolete. In the meantime it's not worth dealing with the issues that can arise from SLI/CF.

>>57718526
Nice.

>>57718542
Right, but if you can get faster for the same price, why not, right?

>>57718651
Not really, just make sure you uninstall all of your drivers using the free program DDU before trying to install the new card.

>>57718661
???

>>57717210
>>57717309

Don't listen to this man. The first one is already outdated by today's standards, and especially in 2017 it will be severely outdated. It's basically a console.

Bottom one is the better choice. Future-proofing is worth the money in the long run.

>>57718542
>>57718697
Ye. And fuck it, this video is legitimately going to decide my purchase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU4cvBU9R9E

>>57718661
retard

>>57718661
please give me a way to hack the game???

>>57718757
Install gentoo.

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Being Australian hurts..

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yhw9tJ

>>57718697
thx for the advice but I'm 23. My first build was a 9800gt in 2008, then a 560 ti in 2011. I just never pirated a key you dumbfuck. Thanks for the help retard pcuck

>>57718574
>>57718697

MSI it is.
One more thing, some other anon pointed out this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871&ignorebbr=1

Pretty much the same price, but with a higher clock. Worth it? I've never had a non-Asus/MSI GPU before, so I dunno.

>>57716658
How? In price or performance?

How does one get Internet with a custom PC?
Do you need some kind of wifi adapter on the mobo, if any recommandation?

>>57719044
>How does one get Internet with a custom PC?
forgot to add: while living in a student dorm

>>57718742
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2716dg/apd/210-agjr/monitors-flat-panel-widescreen

>literally $300 off
Nevermind, TN here I come.

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>>57718991
Well you talk like a fagget and you're shit's all retarded so thanks for the laughs. How can you be on your third build or whatever and not know how to install an OS from a $5.99 flash drive? LMAOing at your life.

>>57719157
Leave him, Drake. He's not worth it.

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>>57719044
>>57719058
Every modern motherboard comes with an ethernet port/adapter so you can just plug right into a network with an ethernet cable. Most student dorms will just have ethernet jacks in the wall to plug right in to. Some mobos do have integrated wifi adapters or you can install your own wifi adapter into the board, or even attach one outside the case through USB or whatever, but wifi is always worse than plugging straight into a landline network.

>>57719190
You're right, I just couldn't resist because busted out laughing when he called me a pcuck.

I managed to get a hold of a Zotac GTX 780. How does this graphics card from 2013 hold up in (almost) 2017? I currently have an RX 480. Should I bother switching it out to run a few benchmarks or will it just be worse?

>>57718697
>>57719157
>>57719243

stop this

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>>57719157
because my friends big brother built them for me. I'm done with college and he's married. We don't live nowhere near each other.

I was asking for the cheating advice and retard gave me windows 7. You still haven't answerd my question

>>57719108
Damn that's a great deal...sucks that it doesn't ship until January though.

>>57718722
>future proofing
lmaoing my ass off

I'm fairly new to making custom builds and I would like some advice:

I tried looking this up but I wasn't confident in what I found. So I'll be replacing my MOBO, CPU and GPU. My Power supply, ram and hard-drive I plan to keep. This is a different MOBO than my current one so, if I have this correct, I will have to re-register the OS since it'll appear that it's a new computer.

If I have that correct then I would like some advice on the best way to approach this. I had Windows 7 and used the free-upgrade to 10. Is there anyway to transfer the credentials from my current PC to the new one, or am I SOL and need to purchase a new OS.

Thanks.

>>57719343

>spending over a grand on something already outdated so you have to spend hundreds in a few months to keep it relevant

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>>57711876
>he doesn't have an ssd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whToyjxMg-c

is it worth da money?

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>>57719247
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72cWBP

>Z mobo with a locked processor
Get an H/B board if you're never going to overclock or get a K processor to justify the expense of the Z board. One or the other.

Consider faster RAM. Get two sticks.

That case is nice but it's enormous. You may not need one that big but there's nothing wrong with it.

Other than that it's fine for muh 1080p games.

>>57719290
I still don't really understand your question I guess. If you need Windows 10 for the Xbox app then yeah of course Windows 7 isn't going to help, no matter what method you use. It's like $40 for a W10 key on plebbit, or like you said, buy it "legit" for however much it is and then install it however you need to. You can either make a bootable flash drive and install it that way or make a W10 iso and burn it to disc. You need to make something bootable on your own or you need to buy a disc you can boot with at the store. There's no cheating advice that I know of when it comes to W10 other than buying those shady keys which you already know about.

>>57719273
'no'

>>57719377
>I had Windows 7 and used the free-upgrade to 10. Is there anyway to transfer the credentials from my current PC to the new one, or am I SOL and need to purchase a new OS.
The only thing you can do, that I know of, is you can call Microsoft and tell them that you had to have your motherboard serviced and replaced. You can give them your old key and some Pajeet on the phone may walk you through the steps you need to take to get you a new license key. They'll log in to your computer remotely to do this. I'm not sure how much they can tell that you're kind of lying, as it's technically a new PC, or how much they care. Honestly I just think those Pajeets are so scared of losing their jobs by getting a customer angry that they really don't play hardball too much. I've done this like 3 times over the years.

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Oh man /g/

It's happening

I have such a materialism buzz right now

>>57719455
Well that's what I was wondering should I get an m.2 ssd it just get a Sata one

>>57718428
just found out that Titan X is not even available for sale where I live.

1080 Ti is supposed to come out in January. I guess I'll wait and see.

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>>57719495
>If you need Windows 10 for the Xbox app then yeah of course Windows 7 isn't going to help, no matter what method you use. It's like $40 for a W10 key on plebbit

thx anon, you were helpful and not throwing laymans terms and drake down my throat. You did well.

5 shekels have been deposited in your account.

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>>57719535
good goy. spend! spend! if you can't afford it you could always take out a loan, for a small fee.

you're really helping the economy. heheheh

>>57719574

No loan here, that shit came right out of my checking account.

Rent is already paid too.

Feels good man.

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>>57719535
I made my build 2 dyas ago and was confirmed charged. I think they don't have one of my parts at the warehouse or something. At least FFXV is arriving monday

>>57719540
just get a sata one desu senpai

>>57719398

There's not point getting an 8gb video card. 6 is more than enough, as he said he's only interested in 1080p. 1440 and 4k won't even fucking last with 5k on the way. Future-proofing is not worth it anymore and shit moves way too fast nowadays. Future-proofing isn't the same as maybe 2010 and prior. Now it's a pointless endeavour as new pointless shit keeps coming and going like stupid curved shit and 2160p.

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>>57719535
shoulda just bought one on craigslist. I ssee like 5 builds right now that are selling for 1-3k

>>57719495

Perfect, thanks mate.

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>>57719377
>>57719495
not op but I have a laptop and I guess I'm fugged. Microsoft shilling

>>57717843
>A 1070 has a huge jump and is good future proofing. 120 extra dollars today is 250 you wont have to spend in less than 3 years.

You don't have to do either.

>>57713453
6gb gpu is fine
but GTA V actually utilizes ram, so you don't want less than 8gb of that