/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Mustard Race Edition

Any recommendations for a decent, not overly expensive mATX case?
Doing a 6700k + R9 Fury build.

Building an audio production/general purpose PC, will run Ubuntu and KXStudio. So far I plan to run a i7 6700 and at 16 gigs of RAM. Any advice on other components? I'm particularly indecisive about motherboards and don't know what features I should look for.

When the fuck should I do this? Now or cyber monday?

>>57688971
Since you're not getting a K cpu, I guess you don't plan on overclocking so go for an h170 and decide whether you want sli/crossfire support.

Will you even have a GPU? If not make sure the board supports integrated graphics

>>57688919
Coolermaster n200, I love mine and it's $25-50 depending on rebates and deals
>>57689008
this weekend at latest, cyber Monday actually isn't real, do NOT wait
Or if you do, wait 3 months, everything will start going on regular sales again
>>57688971
That's literally all you need for DAWs, CPU and ram. Get a good external audio interface and some monitors (get good monitors before good headphones).
And while you're at it, you're missing the most important part of any modern DAW worth using: windows

what i want for muh gaems


CPU: 7700k (when it comes out)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2800 Memory
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Monitor: Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor
250GB SSD
1TB SSD
1TB Data HDD

I am planning to buy the parts in around late december/early january. or should I buy them now? When will they be the cheapest?

First for NCASE M1

>>57689084
I ain't waiting 3 months, but how is cyber monday not a real thing exactly? There was a 30% off jet code earlier but that shit expired earlier than i thought it would, maybe something similar will come around tomorrow or sunday

>>57689213
Why not just get the node 202+ psu?

>>57689223
what exactly are you expecting to go on sale?
i bought my build two weeks ago and the only parts that were cheaper today were a HDD and my 6600k. and that was maybe $40 total

>>57689043
Nah, I see no need to overclock for what I'm doing. I'll consider getting the K because maybe in a few years it'll be worthwhile to do it, but not soon. The 6700 is powerful as it is and hyperthreading will already give it a boost. I may or may not get a GPU, I don't game so I'm not confident it'll be worthwhile, but if I do it'll be a cheap one.

>>57689084
DESU if I had money to burn and wanted the best audio interface I'd buy a Mac because Logic is amazing, and cheap. I can live without Windows. Worst case scenario I can always run WINE, right?

Any good 4k monitors worth buying?

anyone here been though the rma process with evga?

i have a gtx 980 ftw evga i bought off some guy a year back and apparently there were some issues with it on release and many people were sending their 980 ftw's back for replacement/repair. i checked my warranty status on their website and i have like 3 years left and i also put in an rma request and they accepted it because they obviously know about the problem.

it says on their website that they will replace any faulty cards with something of equal performance/value. does this mean i can possibly get a 1060/1070 out of them because the 980 is out of production? the 980 is around 1060 performance but the value of the 980 was about £430 back then which is gtx 1070 pricing.

what can i expect? i hope they just don't return my 980 with a new bios or something.

i5 6600k or i7 6700k?

Is i7 fucking worth it yet? I've heard no over the years but always something like "IT'LL BE WORTH IT MORE IN THE FUTURE" is it the fucking future yet?

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>>57689330
its not so much specific parts, more like general discounts on jet/newegg for whatever the order is like codes etc.

I think as soon as I see something that doesn't look like it would ever go lower, I'm pulling the trigger

>tfw constantly refreshing buildapcsales

>>57689435
Get the 6600k

>>57689277
idk never considered it
I love my M1 though

>>57689449
check amazon for used parts that are like new and sold by amazon warehouse deals or whatever they call it. I got my gigabyte z170n for around $85 when it retails new for $160. It was impossible to tell it wasn't "new." Also, they'll let you return it for 30 days no questions asked

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So I've got this 16gb ddr4 2133mhz RAM for really cheap where I live, is it good?
It's Crucial branded CL15 model CT16G4DFD8213. It has no fancy heatsinks but is really cheap. Did I fuck up? I have not received it yet

>>57689605
>Did I fuck up
nah ram is ram
how much did you get it for?

I'm looking for a decent wireless, tenkeyless, non-mechanical keyboard that isn't chink shit. Does anyone here know where to get one? I haven't found any from reputable manufacturers.

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hows it looking so far?

Should I get 16gb of ram or is 8gb still fine? Should I pay like twice the price for some supra fast ram or does it even really matter?

>>57689605
>>57689680
>nah ram is ram
This
You're fine

I always give a memtest 1 pass with new sticks.

Anything wrong with this as a starting point?

>i7-6700k
>MSI Z170A Gaming M7
>MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X
>G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4 3200

>>57688886
any idiot proof laptops for my girlfriend that are touch-screen and competitive with MacBook Pro in battery life, portability, features but cheaper?

trying to convince her to go PC

>>57689343
Logic is just like any other daw, and audio interfaces are hardwaare

>>57689680
>>57689605
Got it for $75 but I'm not in USA, I'm in a 3rd world shithole so thats really cheap..

>about to cut my bank account in half in one fell swoop, also I have no income right now

wish me luck lads

>>57689949
it's an investment in your future m8

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zXDvqk

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Just bought this shit for Christmas (sans-ram, but only because it sold out between adding it to my cart and checking out), how'd I do? I already have a good psu and a decent hdd that I'm gonna scavenge from my current tower.

>>57689938
meant to quote >>57689680
and >>57689757

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Hey guys,

Which motherboard for a 6700K and single GTX 1080?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WQhQf8

About to do it lads

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fpG84C

How is this? This is just a list of the parts that are needing to be upgraded the most in my system. For some reason the ram shows that price but it is $45 on Newegg.

I already have the cpu cooler, I was just checking if it had incompatibility issues.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hooplah_/saved/2Y8Jxr
>Overwatch
>Gta 5
>Maxed Out 1080p
Any suggestions on what I should upgrade down the line would be greatly appreciated.

Hey guys, do you think this will be able to handle BF1? If it does I think it will be able to handle pretty much everything I intend on playing. And yes it's cheap I know, I don't have money.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QLZzM
Any recomendations?

>>57690460
At minimum settings with 30 fps, yea.

>>57690496
>$700 for a 1070
Newegg has them for $340-400

And that ram Holy shit

I've got $250 to spend on a monitor or monitors.

wat do

>>57690496
Cpu is also $100 cheaper on newegg

Already have a 1000W PSU and Storage
Basically I'm looking to play something like dishonored 2 at max settings on 1440p @60FPS. I don't know how realistic that is with a 1070.

>>57690544
>>57690528
Straya mate

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>>57690553
I'm just fucking my shit up all over the place today

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Which power supply should I get for this build that can draw 140w max?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YMrkgL

Would either one be reliable if threw in a 770 down the line (this will probably never happen)?

>>57690553
My apologies, oh southern brother. Are Aussybucks worth less than Burger bucks, or are you just fucked with prices?

>>57689730
Fedora case DESU famalam

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dzg6qk

Is this good for running games like Grim Dawn flawlessly on medium settings or higher?

>>57690588
It's not exactly straight forward like that.
Not only is our dollar worth less we get paid more dollars for the same work so it kinda works out.

What's $20 here is like $10 for you while we get $50K PA for a job you'd get $25K a year for.

will my 3570k be good if i get a 1060? or should I upgrade that as well?

It's not OCd

>>57690515
What about this one?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrfWBP

is this good for my first time build? im too poor.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nhenry206/saved/#view=Xqy4D3

>>57690807
I'm no expert, but the fact that you're paying $160 for a motherboard that doesn't support PCI-E 3.0 or DDR4 RAM throws up some red flags. That may be an AMD processor thing, though, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Anyone care to look this over and r8 my build?

Ignore the lack of a cooler, PCPP doesn't have liquid cooling components but I'm going full loop.

What's the best socket 1150 processor you can possibly get?

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This is my first build. Gonna be doing gaming and editing. I'm pretty clueless about motherboards (and everything else really). If there's any parts I can replace for something that's cheaper and equivalent or better, please let me know. I want to stay around $1.2k or lower.

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I've managed to buy everything but my case /g/. Can anyone provide input on which of these two cases I should buy?

From a purely aesthetic standpoint I'm leaning towards the Dukase. I also have heard that the Dukase has slightly better build quality than the Carbide. The only issue is that I'm very limited on space, and I don't know if the Dukase will fit in the space I have, but I know for a fact the Carbide will. I'll need to get the monitor set up to know for sure, but as it stands I may need to offset the monitor for the Dukase to fit on the desk I have. Both cases are cheap/within my budget, are structured such that the placement of drives or the gpu won't be an issue and have (relatively) good airflow.

Wat do?
>Links
Carbide 88r
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139068&cm_re=carbide_series_88r_microatx-_-11-139-068-_-Product
Dukase V2
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811853035&cm_re=deepcool_dukase_v2-_-11-853-035-_-Product

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Hey /pcbg/

How's this for a mid-range gaymen PC?

Is there any meaningful difference between a Vengeance LPX 2x8 3000MHZ and a Vengeance LED 2x8 3000MHZ except the faggy leds?

Dumb question, but since I'm only going to be using one monitor for games, will getting a secondary monitor with same dispay size but different refresh rate affect anything?

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>>57691008
i7 4770K

>>57690933
You better have a nice monitor

>>57690807
It's shit, get an i3 6100 and either a B150 or (if you want to buy an unlocked CPU later) a Z170 mobo

>>57690716
OC and get the 1060. It'll be fine with no OC but OC will be way better

>>57690661
That will run Grim Dawn on Ultra 1080p 60FPS

>>57690575
Either is fine, but if you're not using a graphics card consider an ITX build

>>57690553
Unless the patch really fixed the game you're not doing 1440p 60FPS Ultra. Lots of areas where the game struggles, particularly when you look out over the city

>>57691575
Get a Hyper 212 EVO and Asus Z170 Pro Gaming instead. And do you really need a 750w PSU?

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Going for a slightly more budget build
r8

Is the good ol' i5 2500k still good enough for running new games on ultra at 1080 when matched with a gtx 1070 and some good ram?

>>57691609
Solid advice.

>>57691049
>Liquid cooler
Unless you're going for some really high OC, a 212 EVO will be more than enough.

>RX 480
1060 6GB is, at the moment, objectively better.

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How good is this list? I'm building my first PC and I used the links in the OP, but I wanna get some advice before I really commit. Pic Related

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qtMhm8

>>57690460
Shit build, get an i3 6100 and save your pennies for an RX470, they're only $160 right now.

AM3+ is a dead platform. You'll WAY better perf from an i3 6100 and have a nice upgrade path, which means that you save money in the long run

>>57690409
If you're looking to upgrade, get a Z170 mobo and 3000MHz RAM. Pick up a Kaby Lake i7 after they're cheap

>>57691667
You should get a cooler. Planning on eventually getting an unlocked CPU? Otherwise you could see if you can find a cheaper, non-Z170 motherboard.

>>57691724
See >>57691660

is a ssd worth it or just meme premium?

>>57691766
worth it.
HDD writes at like 3mbs per second, SSDs, even like a-data spit out 7-8 times as much

Also, windows/whatever OS you have boots in less than 30 seconds.

What brand RX480 should I get?

Also should I wait for cyber monday?

>>57691766
It's only worth it if you have cash laying around. It's not a necessary part your computer.

>>57691609
>>57690933

I'm building it for 4k and second gen VR when it comes out in 2-3 years.

>>57691766
Worth it for your OS and anything that runs on startup. Games will be hit or miss, but open worlds and games with lots of loading screens tend to benefit a lot.

alright then what are some good ssd brands, i see samsung and sandisk but i stumbled upon crucial today, never heard of them, any good?

>>57691826
I've had a sandisk 120gb ssd since 2012 and it's never given me a single problem.

>>57691826
Samsung is top tier. Crucial is also good, with better GB/$ value.

>>57691764
Should I just kick it off with an i5-6600K in that case?

>>57691929
A 6600k should only be around 30 bucks more, but the 1050Ti will be the bottleneck in video games, not the CPU.

>>57691954
What video card do you recommend that's $200 or less?

>E5-2670 $60
>Alienware motherboard $150
>Adata SP550 480gb ssd $120
>RX 480 $200
How can I improve from here? Is there a next level of godhood which I can achieve?

>>57691764
Is 750w way more than enough for what I'm building? Should I gets something cheaper? And the motherboard is basically the same as the one I had on there just a bit cheaper, or is there something I'm missing?

>>57689392
No one?

>>57691660
>Get a Hyper 212 EVO and Asus Z170 Pro Gaming instead
Why?

>>57691985
It's way more then you're using, but if you plan on upgrading down the road, it wouldn't be a bad idea

>>57691959
RX480 4GB, GTX1060 3GB, RX470, ordered from best to worst.

>>57692019
I was thinking of getting Star Citizen when the multiplayer fully drops and I was gonna upgrade around then too. Should I just keep it then?

What is the lowest gpu I can get if I want to run 3 2560x1440 monitors and the only gaming I do is osu?

>>57692019
Actually, scratch that about the Asus Z170. But the 212 EVO is better value, and it's gonna be more than enough. I always recommend either the 212 EVO or NH-D15, otherwise you might as well just get a proper liquid set up.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/seinthebear/saved/HVNP6h

Shit on my build

>>57692052
>>57692019
>>57691719
>>57691660

Why would anyone ever buy a 212 when an H5 is $10 more and 3x better?

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>>57691764
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pRkYQV

Any better now? Does it matter if the voltage for the RAM is higher than the max recomended voltage of the CPU? This is my first build I don't want to fuck it up.

>>57692052
212 EVO is no longer budget perf king

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i7 boys where we at?!?!?

WW@ BOYS?

Where the fuck we at?

What GPU brand should i consider buying? (talking about evga, msi, and so on)

>>57692881
Depends on nvidia vs amd

For nvidia cards I believe zotac pny are the best.

For amd I believe Sapphire is the best.

For both, you can't go wrong with Asus, MSI or gigabyte.

>>57692975

Is evga that bad?

Hey, new to pc building, would like some opinions on the build I made, mostly for playing gaymes and using photoshop/3d softwares.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8yyhm8

>>57692997
The 1070 and 1080s apparently went up in flames. That's enough for me to not trust them this generation. The lower end cards should be fine though.

>>57693166
Get a cheaper motherboard. You can find cheaper 1060's. Consider a 120gb or slightly higher ssd. You can find higher speed ram for the same price.
The rest looks pretty damn good.

Is newegg doing cyber Monday like last year?
I wanna get an Asus monitor 24"+ to upgrade from my old one

>>57693576
I am considering buying an ssd, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. As I said it's my first time building a computer and i'm slightly retarded, so I wonder if it might not be too difficult to install both an hdd and an ssd together in a pc ?

>>57691667
Poor/10
Drop to i3 6100 and get a better video card
Can drop to B150 mobo if you know you aren't going to buy an unlocked CPU
If you stick with the Z170 get 3000MHz RAM
Get 240GB SSD

>>57691719
I'd say you'd get the 1060 for the VRAM, 4GB 480 for price/perf

>>57691724
If you're buying a 1070 consider a nicer monitor, like 1440p gsync
Get 3000MHz RAM
Could get a lower wattage PSU

>>57691766
Worth it

>>57691785
Hopefully second gen VR will be here before that. All second gen needs is eye tracking, wireless, better FOV+res. (I've used the Rift and the Vive, but not extensively.)

>>57691826
Pretty much all the SSDs are reliable at this point, so you're fine going with any budget brand, but check reviews first

>>57692023
Price/perf + OC potential is RX470

>>57692114
Honestly not sure if that's supposed to be a joke build

>>57692235
You need DDR4 RAM, not DDR3
Get an SSD
Get a used 23" 1080p monitor

>>57693166
Get 3000MHz RAM
Get 240GB SSD

>>57693752
>too difficult
No

fuck yall

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Hello my friend recently swapped out an 750Ti for a 1060 Zotac and encountered this on startup. Any idea what's the issue?

>>57693861
Swap back and see whether it still happens
Seems like the battery may have been dislodged

Building a computer to play games with. Thinking I'll get a 21:9 1080p monitor at the same time, so build is to suit that. Set myself a budget of $2K odd. Any feedback?

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/gy2PgL
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/gy2PgL/by_merchant/

> CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($313.00)
> CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.00)
> Motherboard: MSI Z170M Mortar Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.00)
> Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($128.00)
> Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased)
> Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW DT GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card ($649.00)
> Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($139.00)
> Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.00)
> Monitor: LG 29UM58-P 29.0" 75Hz Monitor ($389.00)
>Total: $2005.00

>>57693971
Looks good
Personally I'd avoid a windowed case

>>57693861
You stupid nigger, are you not able to read?

>>57693999
yea after calling him a stupid nigger he figured out he could press delete and fixed it. thanks

Is the Asus Z170-P good enough for a 6700K/1080 build? I looked at it and it seemed to have what I need. I only want 1 gpu, 3 or 4 USB, 1 SSD. I do want 3 fans plus CPU fan though, will that work?

I've been thinking about getting a new cpu cooler to push the ol' 4690k well past its current oc of 4ghz and was thinking about going with a 280mm AiO and was wondering if the expandable ones such as the ek predator and alphacool eisbaer are worth it or should i just stick to the non-expandable ones like corsair and nzxt? Also is 1.097vcore tpp high for a 4ghz 4690k?

>>57690004

How would this run gta v?

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Where do I find good reviews for water cooling components?

PCCaseGear doesn't have any reviews on it, I know what I need but I don't know which brands and models are decent

>>57694434

Probably not a constant 60fps at maximum detail on all fronts, especially speeding in the city, but definitely on at least HIGH.

>>57694650
>ive (Purchased)
>> Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW DT GAMING

Actually on 1080 ULTRA you'd sit on 60 if you overclock, and they lowest you'd go is 50ish.

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First build,cost about $640, took one of the ssd(s), and the 1tb and 500gb hard drives from my old pc. Might upgrade to 16gb ram someday.

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Would I3 6100 + RX 470 work? I just want to play most current gen and even future titles at high settings in playable fps, 60 fps preferred.

>>57695207
Thoughts? I hope I can run games decently at 1080p.

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>>57695250

yep even a 460 will do you

>>57695293
Looks good

>>57694223
Ok, so I found out I can just connect fans to my PSU. It's not like I need to control these fans anyway, they are silent as fuck. So there's nothing else to think about, right? It's not like mobos affect gaming performance?

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Anyone got an up to date Graphics card rating list?

And second question, my current GC is the Sapphire HD 7850. How good is that on the current market?

And do I need to upgrade?

>>57695250
yeah even gta v doesn't use more than maybe 3.5gb of vram

Couple questions fellas:

(1) I am going to help a friend's daughter build a PC. I'm going through the whole ordeal of picking the parts and spending a few hours helping her build it. How much should I charge? (they have $$$)

(2) What's a nice monitor to buy?

Thanks

Is the Galax 1080 hof a meme

first timer, please tell me where I'm going wrong/wasting money

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ggTK2R

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I know I'm being unreasonable, but can I just get a 200mm fan that hasn't been completely ass-fucked with LEDs?

>>57695525
This is me.

Any feedback on my build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7d6Jm8

>>57695525
Let her pay you in sexual favors.

>>57696151
>fan
>LEDs

pick two

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>>57696657
I just want a large quiet fan that doesn't look like I'm sitting next to a rave, why is that so goddamned hard?

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Besides

> 128 GB PNY

Did I do good? I was waiting to see if I could find storage on sale for CyMon so I just got a 128 boot drive.

>>57694424
Anyone? Surely there's someone who knows about watercooling on /g/

Bought a case, a phantex enthoo pro, and the manual says to hook up the pre-installed case fans to a CPU FAN. They go via a little micro controller thing. My mobo, a Z170, has 2 CPU FAN connectors so that's fine but it also has 3 chassis fan connectors.

Am I better to
1) connect the 2 case fans directly to the mobo, using two chassis fan connectors
2) connect the micro controller to one chassis fan connector rather than CPU FAN2
3) do what it says
4) other

If it doesnt make a blind bit of difference, sorry for being a pleb.

Did i do well?

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - White
Asus Z170-A Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Super Jetstream 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Samsung 250GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive
Dell S2716DG 27" 2560x1440 TN G-Sync 144Hz Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Midnight Grey
Microsoft Windows 10 32/64-Bit - USB Pen Drive
be quiet! Silent Loop Superior Liquid CPU Cooler - 280mm
EVGA SuperNova G2 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply
HTC Vive VR Headset UK
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Window Edition - Black Full Acrylic Side Window
WD Black 2TB 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD

R9 380 2gb for $150 or gtx 1050 ti for $180? At 1080p gayming and i dont mind toning down textures.

>>57696953
I've been out the game for a while, right now I'm rocking a GTX 670 that I got a year ago for shipping costs from a friend and an 1150 socket i3. I'm looking to make the 1440p 144hz leap.

Can you clowns help me out here? It's been a while since I've kept up with hardware.

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>>57697505
>unintentional reply
>no picture
I'm retarded.

Amazon were supposed to be delivering my case and a PSU today. 3PM and still no update since it reached a carrier facility last night.

Am I not getting this today? They were the last two things I need, and I've no chance of being around for a delivery on a week day.

>>57696151
Search for 200mm case fans on new egg. Literally first result is one.

>>57697599
For some strange reason there was a UPS truck outside of my house at like 6pm the other day.

Maybe there's still hope, familia.

>>57693832
It's not a joke build, it's amazing man

Should I be considering Gsync or even Freesync(future maybe), when buying a monitor or just buy an Ultrasharp?

Looking to buy a 1070 or 1080

>>57697677
Just updated to out for delivery now.
Now I get to see if cheaping out for a used case was a mistake or not.

I have trouble deciding on ram sizes. For a video card should I get 4 or 8gb if I want it to last a while for gaming. And for ram sticks 8gb or 16gb for gaming and coding

>tfw got a 4690k bundled with a mobo over a year ago
>Tfw got an R9 290 3 years ago
>Want to make my pc aesthetic af and set up a rad complete circuit liquid cooling system but they all cost a fortune
>Decide that when Vega comes out, I'm gonna go balls deep and Crossfire two cards (can't SLI with the motherboard but crossfiring apparently works)
>In my quest for maximum aesthetic, I'd have to get a different motherboard and thus a different CPU

What are some good full system circuit water cooling blocks? I've been eyeing ekwb but that's expensive as all hell.

kingston blacks or crucial sport for 2x8 modules?
kingston are a lot costly, read that clock and such dont matter unless you work in autocad but I want to OC my Fx so what do you advise?

Upgrading my desktop graphics from a 440gt to a 1050gti ($140 black Friday fuck yes) and I'm looking at getting my first 144hz ips monitor to go along with it. Are there any pitfalls to avoid with these things? Looking at this relatively cheap one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009909&cm_re=144hz_monitor-_-24-009-909-_-Product

>>57698302
Also on this note is this good
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8QBvV

>>57697453
The 380 is a little more powerful but more power hungry.

MSI or Gigabyte (gtx 1080)

>>57698533
Pitfalls? Not really, just make sure you change the refresh rate in your OS to 144 Hz in Display Properties. Sometimes it just defaults to 60.

Hi, for 4k 60fps output what sort of cpu gpu combo do i need? This is for a loungeroom pc that will probs be used for emulation too. Also gotta be small form factor for a possible matx build

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Just picked up the GPU and CPU in pic related, any other reccs or advice like more fans before I pull the trigger on the rest of this stuff?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WTR3m8

>>57698551
It's good. VRAM is kind of a meme under a certain price point. IE the RX 480 is likely too weak for its VRAM to be much of a limiting factor re 4 GB vs 8 GB.

>>57698765
Remaining budget is within $500-$600 range
Vidya is the ultimate purpose
Clapistan

Any tangible difference between 2400 and 3000 ddr4? I think the heat spreader is going to interfere with my CPU cooler.

>>57698765
>>57698789
It's fine if you have HDDs already for storage.

>>57698750
What kind of emulation? You need a diesel CPU for PCSX2 and Dolphin.

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>>57698868
Is there a generally good brand for HDDs, or are they all just a crapshoot?

>>57698839
20%

>>57698868
Diesel? I plan to emulate basically everything that can be right now. Dolphin runs fine on my amd 8350 though, but ps2 emu don't run.

Main thing here is still 4k output for videos, emulators probs run at 2k?

>>57691008
4790k, but only a little better than 4770k (OC to OC).

/g/, you motherfuckers

my pajeet of a friend just recommended me this build here to play 90% of games at great settings

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7d6Jm8

does he know what the fuck he's talking about or no?

>>57698766
So just change 8gb to 4gb you think?

>>57699194
Decent, pirate windows

>>57698897
Hitachi

What is the best DDR3 RAM i can find? Not feeling trading my i5 2500k yet.

Is PNY a meme brand or is it actually good for a 1070?

>>57698937
It's all about CPU speed for emulation, has nothing to do with the resolution you're trying to run it at. Any decent GPU from the past 2-4 years could suffice. The old emulators run at whatever the native resolution was for those games, 480p I believe. You can then use the GPU to upscale that image several times over to sharpen it for larger displays, but this isn't too difficult for any GPU from the past few years to handle. It's not like playing native PC games where a strong GPU is needed for all of the graphical calculations as the CPU is handling all that in an emulator.

Now if you want to play 4k PC games from that PC that's a different story and you will need a very strong GPU as well.

>>57699377
PNY makes the quadro cards for nvidia so they should be fine.

>>57699536
Not at all, im putting the pc in place of a console (modern consoles arent worth it imo). I doubt id ever play a pc game on it, was gonna connect a few ps3 controlllers over pluetooth

Does anybody know if this arm http://ergomaxoffice.com/collections/monitor-arms/products/economy-steel-lcd-vesa-desk-mount-for-3-monitors
Could support a 29' ultrawide in the center and a 24" on both sides

i need some good case fans that are quiet as well

>>57699194
Decent. Made few changes, 40 bucks more but it's worth it imo:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F9xpm8
If you don't want to OC you should drop down to i5-6500.

Anyone know of a good case that can fit a fullsize ATX board, GPU, etc. but can be permanently laid on it's side? It's going to be near a window and I rather not block the window, I don't really have space constraints so I don't need to go mini-itx. I just don't want a 20+ inch Tower blocking my window.

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Is waiting till Monday even a option for additional price drops? Or should I just commit now?

>>57700079
>C7
Don't. Get a better cooler. This thing is good but why go for it you're not building mATX/ITX?

>7K2000
HGST is fine and good and all that, but i don't get it why people buy shit from 2009.

Which factory overclocked 1070 should i consider getting? Asus Strix? EVGA OC? I dont know much about the different versions.

>>57700212
Evga 1070 and 1080 are LITERAL housefires, avoid at all costs.

>>57700182
whats wrong with cryorig

>>57700212
I too would like to know the one I SHOULD get, rather than the one to avoid.

>>57689852
>trying to convince her to go PC

With as shitty as windows 10 is I can't really blame people using macs. In fact I envy them.

>>57690542
Dell Ultrasharp

>>57700262
Nothing, even told you it's a good cooler but imho you should only get those slim topblow coolers for mATX/ITX builds.
They don't cool as good as big tower coolers and if you're getting an unlocked CPU you should get a proper cooler as well.
In case you want to stay with Cryorig, take a look at the H5 or H7 coolers.

>>57700212
Asus Strix, Zotac AMP!, Palit (Super) Jetstream or something from PNY.

>>57700341
oh its not that guy im just considering the ultimate model for my amd heavy oc setup

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Building this for gaming, emulation, and maybe some day in the distant future midi/music editing. What do you think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mYFkgL

>>57695293
Why wouldnt it? Give it a shot.

>>57700379
Get a mATX board
Faster memory
wait for the 960 evo/pro
Get a better/larger cooler
Gaming model is garbage,get the SC model 6gb

>>57700375
>heavy oc setup
Neither H5 or H7 will stand up to heavy OC anything, especially not to an AMD Housfire™ setup.
Get something like a Noctua NH-D15, Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev. B or Phanteks PH-TC14PE and NT-H1 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut as thermal compound.

I didn't realize mid towers were so huge. Or maybe its just the Define R5, but the others look pretty similar.
How much harder would it be to build in a micro ATX case?

>>57700413
Thanks, Ill look into all of this. I just hope I can find a mATX board which has built-in wifi.

>Gaming model is garbage,get the SC model 6gb

Wait, what? Are you talking about my gpu?

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>>57700415
yes i know thats why I said ultimate model from cr

>>57698070
Gsync/freesync are worth it, especially since years down the road 1070s and 1080s will be obsolete and you'll want lower framerates looking smoother

>>57700182
what would you recommend instead of the 7K2000?

How do i know if my computer has enough airflow? the temps are mostly good, i have a couple fans, but my country is very hot no matter what.

Can a 1060 gpu handle 144hz monitors to its fullest effect? Or should I stick to 60hz for now?

>>57699985
Thanks. Why did you change some of the parts though?

>>57700637
People make too big a deal about temps/airflow. It only really matters if you OC heavily or have x2 300W graphics cards and a 125W CPU

>>57700557
Buy the Deskstar

>>57700551
Definitely, but for Freesync you need a monitor with a really high refresh rate so that it qualifies for Low Framerate Compensation

>>57700448
Not much

What do I do with this? It's literally just dangling while I copy all the contents to my new 5TB HDD. I have two optical drives I haven't used in years. I used the connections from the optical drives to the old 250GB HDD to copy the contents.

I don't want to spend $5 for a bracket converter for an HDD that is worth $5. Can I just use zip ties, ropes or something, and put in one of the optical drive slots?

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>>57701182

*pic

>>57700768
If you're buying a new monitor get something nice, ie freesync/gsync and a high refresh rate.

Otherwise just get a / keep your used $50 1080p display.

The 1060 can definitely handle a 144Hz display

I haven't kept up with advances in consumer hardware for the last decade or so, just learned about "M.2 SSDs" today.

Is it worth getting one of those for a new build?

>>57700464
There's a H5 Ultimate, too. Didn't know which one you meant, yours looks good although i haven't seen it benched.

>>57700781
Well, cooler and RAM for obvious reasons, the mobo because it's better and i have a hard on for GB's UD series, the HDD is better than Seagate consumer shit, the GPU is cheaper and higher clocked and the R5 is an excellent case.
With the promo code it's absolutely worth it, you get THE best silent case on the market for an excellent price.

>>57701182
Give it away on craigslist. Also you should have bought a 4TB HDD, or even x2 2TB and used RAID

>>57700379
Get 3000MHz memory

>>57700079
Just buy whatever is already on sale and wait for the other stuff

>>57700056
Not off the top of my head. You might look at bench cases, not sure if they would be too tall

>>57700781
Get gave you faster memory, which is only a few dollars more and you definitely want
Also a better cooler
And a cheaper mobo

Is the old 2500k overclocked enough to handle a 1070 or will it bottleneck?

>>57701333
>Get 3000MHz memory

I will look into it. I have never overclocked ram before (anything for that matter)

>>57701333
>you should have bought a 4TB HDD, or even x2 2TB and used RAID

Why? I got the 5TB for $100 from Fry's. Why do I need RAID? I don't have bugs in my PC. Thanks.

>>57701328
its r1

why is ddr3 ram so damn expensive now? i want to get an extra 8gb of corsair vengeance 1600mhz to add to my current set but i can't find it for less than about £55. i bought this same ram last year for 40 quid.

What's your opinion on amd 5350 + 8 Ram + 240 ssd for an office pc?

>>57701555
manufacturers are switching to ddr4 so availability is decreasing

How do I make this prettier?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>57701711
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/
By adding a proper link, doofus.

>>57701742
My bad, I thought I copied the permalink.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMrNgL

>>57701784
Decent build but why the Z170 mobo and huge Enthoo Pro? And switch the NEX for a G2.

>>57701499
>>57701499
>Why do I need RAID? I don't have bugs in my PC
Top kek, how new are you?
Top kerk

>>57701849
I'm just messing around with the cases. I'm not really sure which case I want. I just want a really good looking one. The black is getting old for me.

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rate my I have enough money to spend on shit to make autists cry build

>>57702130
>Seagate
>not WD BLACK
>Corsiar PSU
>Not Seasonic 750w

>>57702130
Pnice. I have the same case. What's your monitor?

>>57702190
>750w

>>57702130
>>57702192
Like the above said, I'd go Seasonic gold. I know that RMX has nice reviews, but fuck Corsair just for putting out the CX line alone. Also fuck Seagate HDs.

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Anything I should change for cables? About to test boot before installing GPU.

>>57702130
>Under 2,000usd
If you're trying to trigger people you need a 1080 Seahawk plus a aio cpu cooler.

>>57702345
Looks solid but what kind of fucking GPU do you have that needs three slots?

>>57701499
Redundancy, considering you probably don't need all that space since you're coming from tiny HDDs. You could then use both drives without RAID later when You actually need the space

100bux for that drive is pretty good though

>>57701397
All you have to do is set the XMP profile on BIOS if you have a Z170 and 3000MHz RAM

>>57701555
Shortage of those mem chips because SSDs and retooling

>>57701653
Probably OK

>>57701784
Drop cooler, use stock
Can use aB150 mobo if you never plan to buy an\unlocked CPU
I'd you stick w the Z170 get 3000MHz RAM
I'd you're at 1080p get the 6GB 1060

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>>57688886

>pc master race meme

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I've been pussyfooting on this build for the last 48 hours. Will there be any repercussions swapping the Enthoo case for a Rosewill Thor V2? To me they appear at the same quality but the Rosewill is cheaper.

>>57691780
I have an RX480 from Sapphire. The 8GB Nitro+ model. IMO it's the best one you can get but I've always bought Sapphire cards since my 4850 back in 08.

Since Cyber Monday is in 2 days, yes, wait, and see what you can get.

Further, Newegg.com seems to have it pretty cheap. Was considering getting another one using that pricematch at local Microcenter but did some research and found that running crossfire on two 480s on my 970A-UD3P with one port running at X4 would not be of much benefit. Going to do a bit more reading and confirm, and if there's a good deal, pick up another one and do a pre-Vega crossfire build, opting to repurpose or sell them later when I do my Vega/Zen rebuild.

>>57702192

I bought this its in börk langauge

http://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-tillbehor/bildskarm/AC27XB271HBMI/acer-predator-xb271hbmi-27-bildskarm-gaming

>>57702220
what's the worst thing that can happen with an RMX?

>fuck Seagate HDs.

but they are cheap as fuck dawg

>>57702686
Get 3000MHz RAM
consider 1440p

>>57702699
X4 PCIe 3.0 probably won't bottleneck.. PCIe 2.0 might. AM3+ is really outdated anyway, and CF sucks

>>57702779
How does it suck? And have you ever run a Crossfire build? What problems did you end up running into? I'm planning on doing a dual GPU set up when I rebuild with the yet-to-be-released RX 490. Whether it's Crossfire or, apparently, DX12 contains a multi-GPU solution..?..I'm not 100% sure.

According what's written on my board it's a 2.0 slot on the bottom so it will probably have issues. I don't think it's worth the cost since, until I rebuild, I'm going to stick on a 1080p 60Hz monitor anyhow and the 480 will spit out damn near anything I can throw at it at ~60fps on full. So I keep trying to slap myself on the wrist with "as cool as an Xfire build would look, it's not worth another $250 right now, just hold out the RX480 is doing fine for you right now you have hardly even used it to its potential yet" Mostly just me being impulsive as hell.

And what's wrong with AM3+ At least for older CPUs? I've had the same 8350 for 3 almost 4 years now and it's always been a solid chip. Just recently overclocked it to 4.5 (don't get me started, I think my chip is a bum, I can't push any higher...) and it manages to handle everything I throw at it.

But I agree they are due for a new socket. But for another up-to-a-year-or-so until I can get a reasonable price on a Gigabyte Zen board with dual 3.0 X16 slots and an onboard M.2? I think it's perfectly fine till then.

>>57702686
Do you really need a full tower? You could get a nice Define R5 for this price which will easily fit everything here and more and is very good quality. Also, did you post this yesterday? I recognize that shitty kb lel. Agree that you should get faster RAM.

>>57702891
Not him but can confirm CF kinda sucks just for the fact that you can't stream or record while using both GPUs. I found that out the hard way like a total newfag. Fortunately it didn't cost me much to try it. Other than that, scaling is as advertised in supported games, I just don't think it's worth the extra heat and potential noise, but that's just me.

As for a GPU on 2.0 vs 3.0 there is barely a practical difference in practice, crossfire or not. Perhaps a 7-10% performance hit at maximum.

>>57702652
>Redundancy, considering you probably don't need all that space since you're coming from tiny HDDs. You could then use both drives without RAID later when You actually need the space
>100bux for that drive is pretty good though

Oh, that makes sense. 95% of the shit on them I don't need anyway or will never actually use. The important shit I do have multiple saves.

is the blackout r5 just a different color? even so it seems identical to normal one

>>57702643
I'm only going to be using a single Rx 480. I got the mobo for relatively cheap and I like it's features. I like the little reinforced bit on the pcie slot. Helps prevent gpu sag. Placebo or not, I think it's still a nice mobo.

>>57703002
>you can't stream or record while using both GPUs
How is this? Is it because it's trying to look for output from one card? I would think whatever program would just look at the display and what's being pushed to it not what the cards are doing. Maybe you don't know but I'm curious as I'd like to get into Twitch streaming sort of. But I could also do that in 1080p if I had to.
Still I don't know if it's worth the value proposition right now to do an Xfire build, even if it would increase performance.

>>57702779
>>57703002
also my build is
>>57703049
shit on it guys, it's probably shitty.

What do you guys think of this monitor?
It looks like a decent deal and a nice monitor...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222327132047?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

>>57702891
I had CF 280x that came in a used rig that I bought. A lot of games don't have CF support at launch or have stuttering problems. In general it's more user friendly and not much more expensive to get a single GPU. For instance a 1080Ti will probably be about 800USD, and x2 1070s would also be just shy of 800 for the same perf and fewer headaches. DX12 mGPU might be awesome, but it's an unknown so far. Anyway DX12 mGPU will have pooled memory, so if you're betting on that get the 4GB version of whatever card

If you're already on AM3+ with an 8350 that's great, but just don't put anymore money into it, like a 990 board.

>>57703002
>As for a GPU on 2.0 vs 3.0 there is barely a practical difference in practice
Depends on the number of lanes. He's saying that his board only supports x4 for the second slot. Generally the 990 boards are for mGPU, 970 is only for OC

>>57703146
It's OK but if you're spending the money may as well get something good, aka >100Hz + adaptive sync

>>57703112
It has to do with the fact that the recording software can only read the memory stored in one card at a time, and since CF/SLI pools the memory of both cards together to allow for the boost in performance, it becomes impossible for the software to pick up the added frames as a result of this memory limitation.

I've found display capture to be very unreliable. Though technically it is a workaround for CF/SLI setups, good luck getting it to work. I found it to be incredibly buggy for recording games, experiencing crashes in OBS or just straight up not picking up the screen at all. It also has a larger performance hit even though my PC can handle it. My point is display capture is an afterthought in most recording software suites and if recording or streaming is something you're ever interested in I would avoid CF/SLI at all costs.

>>57703002
Yeah that was me. First time building so I'm trying to be very cautious, you'll probably see me post a few more times. I am gonna switch my keyboard out.

>>57703251
>CF/SLI pools the memory of both cards together
You're not using 'pools' correctly. DX12 mGPU will have pooled memory. It's currently not a feature of CF/SLI

>>57703251
Hm. I did just a quick google and the results on this seem to be a lot of reports of issues but very intermittent/not everyone with Xfire having problems.

And I was told that crossfire did NOT pool the memory of the two cards, they were essentially mirrored as far as memory goes.

Lol, one of the workarounds was "use another PC to look at the video/screen (assuming through RDP or something) of the one you're using crossfire on and have THAT PC do the actual streaming." kek

>>57703319
>>57703291
Sorry, my wording was poor. The data stored in memory is mirrored as you are both saying, obviously we know that traditional CF/SLI of two cards does not yield double the VRAM, but if you're trying to do something like a game/window capture, the software still can only read the memory coming from one card, the other card will be disabled instantly as soon as recording begins. You can monitor something like this easily using Afterburner and watching your GPU2 usage hit 0% as soon as you hit your record hotkey.

There is no real workaround to this that I've ever seen, other than avoiding a game/window capture and trying to get a display capture setup to work, which is a total crapshoot for games as far as I can tell.

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>>57703002
>>57702779
Wanted to say thanks for the input. Considering the RAM I imagine these final choices are fine, so do any one of these stand out? Someone yesterday mentioned I should bump up to 16gb but would it be beneficial?

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Why should I Not buy this bundle tonight?

>>57691728
Point taken, will change to an i3

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Bong here looking for some advice.

I have chosen most of my other parts but I am a little stuck on the motherboard.

Im going for a mATX board, i5 6600k, OCZ Trion 240GB SSD, Toshiba 2TB 7200rpm HDD, Zotac 1060 and 3000MHz DDr4 ram.

At the moment I am leaning towards the Asus Z170m-Plus but I am not sure if I would be better off going for the MSI Mortar/Gigabyte D3H.

OR

Do I splash out the extra £40 for the Gigabyte gaming? I could spend £200 and get an Asus Maximus VIII Gene but I dont really want to do that since that is too much.

Planning to overclock the 6600k to about 4.3GHz but it is my first time building a cpu with an unlocked cpu.

Point of this post is: Is the ASUS z170m-Plus a good choice, should I instead go to the MSI or Gigabyte equivalent price board because they are better at something slightly or is itseriously worth it for a first time overclocker to go to the £150 Gigabyte?

>>57703422
Hm. Well that's shitty. I'll do more reading on it when it gets closer to build time but thanks for making me aware of this. It appears to plague both Xfire and SLI so it's not really an AMD or NVidia thing. Though, NVidia does produce more powerful single-cards so, if AMD doesn't have anything that can do 4K on a single card and I decide I want to seriously consider streaming I might be stuck with NVidia unless some other solution/update occurs that fixes this. Not that anything is inherently wrong with NVidia, I just have always used ATI and AMD and they've always done what I've needed them to and been great cards, it's just I don't know if there will BE anything from team red that will do 4K competently in a single card.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tHTGnn
Updated list of parts that i'll buy in the near future.
>Gta 5
>Overwashed
>Ultra 1080p

>>57703431
Stay at x2 4GB for now. Any of those is fine, but I would suggest the low profile options, aka the Corsair

>>57703449
Lack of ports on mobo, far too much RAM
Not sure how much all that would cost in bongs

>>57703497
Just make sure the board has the ports you want. After that buy the board with the best warranty (3yr) and or with the same brand as your graphics card. 4.3 is a low OC. You don't need a great board

>>57703505
AMD will have a 4K Vega card next year, likely Jan - March release. Nothing wrong with going NVIDIA unless you already have a nice non gsync monitor

>>57703564
Buy it, some really nice sales in there

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>>57703449
>shitty mobo
>32GB RAM
>we will gift you free Intel stock cooler
This kekles the merchants shekels.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYT2bj

Thoughts? I'm Jewish btw.

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Please help! I want to buy a gtx 1070 and the black friday deal is still happening over at Newegg, but would I get even a better deal on cyber monday?
>Price
$410, Free shipping
That's the lowest price I can find right now. I have a GTX 960 2GB right now.

>>57703637

>
Just make sure the board has the ports you want. After that buy the board with the best warranty (3yr) and or with the same brand as your graphics card. 4.3 is a low OC. You don't need a great board

Thanks for answering by the way.

Okay so I should be fine then if I stick in the £110 range with the three boards down there.

Is there a brand that you would say has a better reputation for motherboards or are they all pretty much equal at this point?

How important would you say it is that the motherboard should be the same brand as the graphics card? Is it something nice to have if its convenient or is it a bit more serious than that?

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>>57702345
Finished product
>>57702643
Derp my bad I thought you meant pcie slots not the open covers. I had a wifi card in but I'm on Ethernet now. Lost the cover.

How long will the 480 last as a good gpu?

>>57703431
Yeah, of those three choices definitely go with the lower profile RAM. Giant heatspreaders on RAM are a meme and will just get you in trouble with the larger CPU HSF setups.

>>57703505
What the other guy said. I believe you are right in pointing out that this isn't an AMD/Nvidia thing, it's more of a "how does recording software use video memory" thing. Surprisingly I can't find a lot of info re: Shadowplay and SLI. If anything, the lack of complaints tells me how few people even use multiple graphics cards, even on the green team, so it's no wonder there is likely to be no fix for this kind of thing.

>>57704169
videogames/10

>>57704245
Don't know what currency, but $410 for a 1070 isn't great. They are selling close to the MSRP of $380 regularly. Also if you only have a 1080p monitor just get a 1060

>>57704258
>Is it something nice to have if its convenient
Convenience, makes troubleshooting / tech support / RMAs easier

>>57704276
Probably until the new consoles

>>57704169
Higher CFM cooler
3000MHz RAM
1440p Gsync monitor

is 6600k and 1060 6gb a sensible pairing?
I don't need a stronger GPU currently, but I consider 6600k a futureproofing effort. is that valid logic?

>>57704356
It's ok, but with the new CPUs coming out a 4c / 4t CPU won't be that great. You can get a Z170 board and an i3 6100 or i5 6500 now and an unlocked Kaby Lake i7 when it's cheap

>>57704276
Depends on what you mean by "good." Usable to play brand new games on whatever settings it takes? At least 3-4 years assuming it holds up.

For reference you can look at their other cards historically in that same price range like the 7870/270x (Pitcairn XT) which even today is still "okay" for 1080p games if you turn down the settings, even though the chip that's in them is from 2012.

>>57704345
>Convenience, makes troubleshooting / tech support / RMAs easier

Okay good to know and thanks.

This is the full build, anything glaringly obvious about the parts that I should know about or does it seem okay?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/P8nPgL

>>57704448
Well I have a 270x now and looking to upgrade, so the 480 seems pretty gud

>>57704461
Still on the fence about the motherboard and gpu by the way.

>>57704466
1060 is better, don't fall for the DX 12/Vulkan meme

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Hello, I am unenlightened but is this good for playing video gaymes at a decent level? Everything except the card makes me feel like I'm not fucking it up, what should I change it to? I can afford to toss in 20-30 more bucks somewhere if I need to. Thanks in advance

>>57704466
Yeah it's probably a worthy upgrade. I'm sure you'll notice some difference in the games you play.

Although, I just wanted to add that in researching this I've realized how much of a brick wall of graphical stagnation we've hit over the past few years. Obviously consoles have a lot to do with this.

>>57704390
An unlocked Kaby Lake i7 will never be "cheap." Intel chips have held their market price within like $30 over the past few years and only go up once sales are over and they become scarce due to last-minute upgraders. Pay now or pay later.

>>57704570
>locked processor with an overcloclocking board
>650w PSU for a 1050 ti
You likely don't even know ehat my criticisms mean. You are fucking retarded and definitely from /v/, name your budget and we'll start all over, friend.

>>57704570
>1050ti
>decent
'no'

1060 3GB/RX 470 is like the bare minimum for what anyone should seriously consider "decent." Other than that it's fine. You could obviously save money elsewhere if needed. See above.>>57704617

>>57704466
What's your CPU?

>>57704461
Looks good

>>57704501
He's looking for longevity, so of course the 480 is better

>>57704570
Drop cooler
Get 240GB SSD
An RX470 is only $20 more for way, way better perf. A 1050Ti is a card for prebuilts

>>57704574
>An unlocked Kaby Lake i7 will never be "cheap." Intel chips have held their market price within like $30 over the past few years
AMD has been giving no competition. Supposedly their new overclockable 4c / 8t chips (SMT, not CMT like "current" FX chips) will be $150. If that happens of course the Kaby Lake i7s will be cheap by the time you need one

>>57704570
Don't bother with the cooler, the stock fan of 6100 is good enough.
Don't get a z170, you likely won't need anything more than a cheaper B150 or even H110 chipset.
Get 2x4 GB of RAM so you can benefit from dualchannel
Get a cheaper powersupply: With you budget, something like 450W 80+ bronze would make sense.
With the money you save, either upgrade the GPU to RX470 or get an SSD.

>>57704570
Also either drop the Z170 (it's for overclocking K chips) and get a B150 or get 3000MHz RAM for the Z170

If I'm dead set on a RX 480 because of the price, would you guys recommend either of these over the other? I've been out of shopping for GPU's since R9 series. Running a R9 270 for reference.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814150774

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814125912

>>57704800
Probably just the cheaper card, consider 4GB
instead of 8. If you want Civ6 then obviously that card

>>57704669

>57704461 (You)
>Looks good

Thanks.

One more question.

I intend to have 2 fans intaking from the front, the 2 fans mounted to the pump intaking from the back and then two fans in the top exhausting.

The Asus Z170m-Plus has 1 cpu fan header and 2 fan headers. The H80iv2 has the pump and 2 fans to power. Would you recommend putting the pump into the cpu fan header and then using the bios to keep it at 100% power (I have heard this enables the system to detect a pump failure) and then putting the other fans into the remaining fan headers/ splitter?

Im not quite sure what the best cable arrangement suits liquid coolers since each time I google it I get random corsair forums with about 10 different opinions and no consensus.

>>57704669
Think the i5 4960k or 4690k something like that, not able to check right now

>>57704858
Forgive me if I'm wrong, I thought things were starting to use up more vram and that it might be a better idea to spend the extra 20?

>>57704669
>Supposedly their new overclockable 4c / 8t chips (SMT, not CMT like "current" FX chips) will be $150.

Zen could be a game changer but I'll believe it when I see it. That would be great for consumers but I just don't think AMD will price them that low. I'd see them positioning a 4C/8T chip with a little worse single core performance (say it's at least Ivy/Haswell tier) against intel's locked Kaby/Skylake i5's, so maybe around $175-215.

>>57704867
>I intend to have 2 fans intaking from the front, the 2 fans mounted to the pump intaking from the back
Those fans on the radiator should be exhaust, the rest should be intake. There's really no reason to keep the fan at 100%. If the pump does fail, the system will shut down from overheating before the chip is damaged.

Processor: Intel Core i7 6800K 3.4GHz

Motherboard: ASUS X99-A II

RAM: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz

Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 B1)

Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO
1TB WD - Black Edition

GPU: 1x GeForce GTX 1070 8GB

How'd I do, lads?

>>57705019
It can play Crysis.

>>57704926
Might be worth it considering the extra discounts. Personally I think you'd want to upgrade anyway before the extra VRAM really matters

>>57705019
If it's for work it's fine. For gaming the CPU is pointless. Hope you have a nice 1440p monitor
Get 3000MHz RAM

>>57704969
I assumed that the best solution would be to have the fans intaking cool air but okay.

Just a quick question. Would it be worth scrapping the SSD and using the money to help put £130 towards a reference 1070 from Asus? Or am I better off staying with the ssd and 1060 if I only intend to do 1080p 60fps?

>>57705019
>he fell for the X99 meme
oh boy

>>57705044
>For gaming the CPU is pointless
Mostly work but I planned to play a few games on it, probably BF1, Witcher 3, and maybe some other casual stuff.

The CPU was on sale, figured why not, Is it expressly bad for gaming or something?

>>57705052
W-what senpai?

The PS4 pro is tempting me bros.

>>57705049
SSD + 1060

The temp inside the case won't be much hotter than room temp, considering your other components. Have to say I'm not really that concerned with temperature, so definitely do your own research.

>>57705086
Nah it's fine for gaming, they're just memeing you. Technically the 6700k will get the edge by a few percentage points in games because it can be clocked higher than the 6800k and vidyagames love them some CPU1 and CPU2 threads.

>>57705096
Same senpai.

>>57705125
Ah, dang. Should have read up on it a bit more before I pulled the trigger. I guess I did knda get memed on muh numbers, but ah well.

Is i3 and gtx750 ti a good combination for a budget build

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>>57704617
rude I haven't been to /v/ in months, I'm just a regular-grade retard
$640, this is $600 now though which I'm comfortable with, I'll pop in an SSD next paycheck.

>>57704669
>>57704681
>>57704708
Thank you for the advice, is this better?

>>57705143
Nah I think you made the right choice if you play on keeping it for the long haul. Those extra threads will help with work stuff if you need them and games are getting better and better at using more CPU threads. I also fell for the X99 meme last year though so I may be biased.

>>57705155
Which i3? Can you afford a better GPU? The 750ti is on literal life support at this point.

>>57705167
Yes, but there better+cheaper 470 versions out there, see >>57703564

>>57705155
i3 + GTX1050

>>57705194
>X99 meme
Beginning to think I should have had my build obliterated before I ordered. Why's it a meme exactly?

>>57705239
It's fine and will last for a LONG time, but outside of very specific tasks you won't see any benefits from the platform

>>57705194
i3 4170 i think

>>57705237
1050 cost a lot here

>>57705351
That's why the OP says to list your country of origin

>>57705114

Yeah I think I will stick with the ssd and 1060 thinking about it since I dont intend to go for 1440p for a year or two at least and there will be a better 1070 equivalent then.

Yeah I didnt think the temps inside would be particularly bad, I will have to do some testing when I build the thing.

>>57705450
Estonia, sorry

>>57705331
Do you already have the motherboard? Consider an i3-6100 if not. If you do have the mobo, consider the refreshed i3 4370 for a little more money.

Like other anon said, the 1050 is about twice as powerful as 750ti.

>>57705239
It's not a meme, bro. Don't worry. Poorfags shit on X99 because they can't fathom that a computer might be used for more than video games sometimes.

Which 1060 should I buy? The EVGA 1060 SC 6GB was looking perfect for me, but I don't want something that could burst into flames.

>>57705745
Get MSI or ASUS

>>57705752
I got an EVGA 1070. How fucked am I?

>>57705745
the 1060 was fine

>>57705934

Nah anon, it's just as bad.

http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GTX-1060-6GB-ACX-20-blew-up-and-caught-fire-m2568927.aspx

>>57706021
i know 3 people with that card. they dont have any issues

>>57706061

You can't measure overheating VRM until something catastrophic happens. Nobody should buy that card, or just about any EVGA card until they sort their shit out.

Is there a good motherboard that doesn't have any problems?

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rip my wallet

Also ordered an HGST 2TB drive for $50, and need to order all the cooling components.

>>57706660
>EVGA 1080
Enjoy your housefire.

>>57704294
Do they even put GPU's on sale on cyber monday?

>>57706765

You mean the problem they were having with the stock coolers? The one that I don't have because I ordered the waterblock version?

I'm not too worried about it.

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I kick myself for not saving up just a little bit more to get better parts before pulling the trigger but since it's been awhile, tell me.

should I upgrade the gpu and power through the bottleneck that would come with the upgrade, or swap to intel and remove the bottleneck but still have the gpu for awhile?

I have to pay massive Austax on buying any kinnd of part, so my shit tier build for 60hz 1080p is up to $1500 AUD

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BTF7pb

Any kind anons got an idea how to lower the price more on this while managing to still be able to game? Mobo seems a bit memey but its a cheaper one and i know little about them

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8DtKZ

Thoughts on this? I really like the case even though it's really expensive. The rest seem ok to say the least.

What are you guys thoughts on buying parts from ebay instead of Newegg and Amazon?

>>57707028

How poor are you exactly?

>>57705167
you can get a 470 for ~$150
>>57706660
lol $130 for ram
>>57707028
why do you need to upgrade?

>>57706890
Does it cover the VRAM? If no, enjoy your housefire. If you want a custom loop or something, better take a look at EK and build it yourself.

>>57707197
Shit build.

>>57707365
Why though? I need to know.

>>57707399
>Expensive as fuck mobo
>Gigabyte
>2400 MHz RAM when 3000 is optimal.
>Sandisk/Hitatchi combo. WHY
>Gigabyte...GPU.
>Case, ODD, and PSU are the only ones good.

Seriously man, lemme fix it up for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WMjNN

>>57707197
>>57707365
>>57707399
>>57707478
$200 case?????

>>57707399
Your cooler is not fit for high OC but your CPU + mobo tells you that's what you want. Also, you probably won't ever need all the features of the UD5, so why not the UD3?
No 3000 RAM, huge meme case that's more expensive than the mobo, which is just stupid. You can get a better 1070 for the same price than the G1.
Why get the NEX when the G2 is much better and why get 750, you'll never need this.
Seriously, there are better options to burn your money, like literally burning it.

>>57707478
nothing wrong with gigabyte mb and hitachi

>>57707222
I dont have income as I'm a college student, I got the money for the first build by selling shit and I can probably pull the $400 I need for the cpu, mobo and ram upgrade or gpu upgrade.

>>57707278
I like my games at 60fps with minimal stutter, that's why I don't play on consoles. my cpu is a bit on the weak side for open world games and gpu does alright for 8th gen games but have a hard time keeping 60fps without throwing out graphics settings that makes the game look decent.

>>57707508
Oh shit, I didn't even see that.

Yeah, cut it down a fractal design or something, that's too fucking expensive.

>>57707723
but I found one on ebay for 125 dollars.

>>57707753
Dude, you don't need a case that expensive.

Hell, you could put more money to a micro atx mobo and then Get the Fractal Design Mini C for even less, which works fine.

There's videos on it too.

>>57707781
Ugh. I've been trying to pick the right components all day. It feels like even when I learn a lot about picking the right pc parts, I'm still picking shit builds.

Now when I'm looking at my build it does feel really unpractical.

>>57706660
Where's your SSD m8?

>>57707028
If that is new don't get it. Get a used 8350 + aftermarket cooler+mobo+RAM combo.

New, get an i3 6100 + DDR4

If you already have the AM3+ board get the 8350 used + aftermarket cooler and sell the 6300.

Also buy an SSD

>>57707863
Start with one of the builds in the OP and customize it