/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Who makes the overall best/reliable hard drives guys?

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HAY GUYS IS THAT MOTHERBOARD AND CEE PEE YOU COMBO GOOD?!?!?!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gL4VD8
How's this build? I plan to use it for light gaming, drawing, video rending, and web browsing.

Is there anyway I can improve it while retaining a similar price?

>>57669061
How much cheaper can I get the PC if I shop during BF vs. next month? Is it worth hunting the deals?

>>57669177
Why not a 1060?

Are AIO watercooled GPU's worth it?
I like the temps, but not the risk of something leaking inside my PC.

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I'm mounting a Corsair H100i GTX into the top of a Corsair Obsidian 750D case. There are washers included, which are supposed to mount into the case, but the rubber stands present in the case are preventing me from securing the top screws.If I mount without the screws, the rubber squishes in a way that makes me uncomfortable. Is this still a correct mounting? Pic related.
Also, do I want the fans blowing air to the radiator or to the inside of the case?

>>57669194
Me personally, I've saved almost a hundred dollars buying now compared to if I were to have just assembled earlier in the month or last month. If you're fixing to save, now is the time. Keep your eyes open towards many retailers to find the items you want; Just today, I saw that Micro Center had the CPU I purchased for about $40 less than what I paid for.

>>57669205
Don't have the money

With the build I posted I'd only have like $30 leftover in my budget

Is there any point in getting a 8 Gb Sapphire Nitro RX480 over the 4 Gb one if I just play in 1080p? Most intensive games I play are probably Witcher 3 and the new Hitman.

Planning to build first PC next month and would appreciate any feedback on
the parts I have in mind.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DJLLwV

This would be for mostly 1080p@60hz gaming on newer titles, along with a few MMOs
like WoW or FFXIV.

My budget is around $800-850.

How does /g/ feel about ASUS cards. I was thinking about picking this card up:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126122

>>57669380
For 1080 no. For 1440 yes.

>>57669380
to piggyback off of this question. Is the only reason to pick up a 8GB rx480 for the resolution? It doesn't add to the future proof of the card?

What brands for that card are good? There were two of them but I don't remember what people were suggesting. Sapphire and Asus??

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My budget is 600€, is this any decent?

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Gaming @ 1080/1440-60hz

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p9mCD8

Good to go for Friday?

>>57669133
HGST

>>57669160
Compare to used. You could get an 8350+mobo+RAM for a lot less

>>57669177
240GB SSD
RX 470; 1050Ti is for prebuilts

>>57669359
Save another $60

>>57669380
I'd say no; a few games will have ultra texture options that req more than 4GB but the card is kinda weak for that anyway

>>57669415
Drop to B150 mobo or get 3000MHz RAM if you keep the Z170

>>57669533
Drop to i3 6100
240GB SSD
Get aftermarket cooler / factory OC gfx card

>>57669566
Looks good but you need a nice monitor

>>57669594
I have a decent 1440 monitor already, basically replacing a 7 year old computer

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>>57669594
Can you give some advice on this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mVdPgL

How's it lookin?

And before you mention graphics card, I know. I intentionally didn't put one in because I'm not planning on doing anything graphic intensive with this and figured I'll just buy the GPU whenever it gets to my desired price point...

I need a new HDD

Amazon has a bunch of 1TB ones for $50, hopefully they'll get cheaper tomorrow

Any recommendations?

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>have this junk
>Can't improve it so gotta invest
>yuropoor
I wish our cyber Monday offers won't be as shitty as Black Friday's.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hooplah_/saved/2Y8Jxr
Looking to play all current triple A games at ultra, with reasonable fps.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KkJWBP

Alright, I'm about to pull the trigger on this. Anything I need to worry about if I do? Any changes I should make?

>>57670469
I'd swap out the memory for a G.Skill Ripjaws 3200. It's $5 more but you get a higher speed.

>>57670469
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T9Gj4D/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvk

>>57669160
>laptop with a quad core processor
>$198
That must be one of those Atom-based Celerons.

is it safe to purchase a 1060?

I understand the 1070 and 1080 had some heating issues that was supposedly addressed with free thermal pads / bios update but can't seem to find anything regarding the 1060 even though they are included in the list of models potentially affected.

Oh great Wizards of the Tech Machines, I have come to ask ye of helpe.

There are two hard drives, two hard drives of different types, that I'll be putting in a MSA60 NAS storage. I plan to purchase several of these drives.

I had planned to purchase the WD 8TB Red NAS drive, which costs 310 USD.
However, a challenger has appeared:

The Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS hard drive, which now costs 260 USD.

The Seagate sports a higher internal buffer of 256MB vs the WD's 128, and the Seagate has a RPM of 7200 while the WD has a RPM of 5400.

Is the Seagate just THAT much better of a deal, /g/?

Hey! I'm looking to upgrade my CPU for gaming. Is there any reason that I shouldn't get a Xeon 6/8 core over one of the i5/i7s on logical increments?

The xeons are significantly cheaper while having better CPUmark scores (albeit slightly lower single-thread scores)

>>57670709
>albeit slightly lower single-thread scores

That's why.
Lot of games nowdays do single core shit instead of multicore.
So a CPU with 4 strong cores is better than 8 weak ones.

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Did I fuck up? I'm trying to squeeze as much as I can out of my $$$. t. almostpoorfag

(Keyboard) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201085
(PSU) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0
(RAM) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820233826
(HDD) https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Ultrastar-HUA722020ALA331-Enterprise-Refurbished/dp/B01CM85C0K/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1480027007&sr=1-2&keywords=hitachi
(CPU) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D4C7Z9Y/ref=twister_B015OTEPGQ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
(Mobo) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128868&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
(Monitor) https://www.amazon.com/Acer-H236HL-bid-23-Inch-Widescreen/dp/B00AZMLIDQ/?tag=logicaincrem-20

>hurr POST A LIST
t. no standardized website

>>57670788

Are you serious with this shit?
This has to be troll.

Thinking about picking up another WD Blue WD10EZEX. Already have one which is usually 75% full, but with a lot of useless shit. Is WD still good? And is 1TB enough? Just want some headroom so I don't need to always keep cleaning downloads and shit.

>>57670788
>>57670826
Thanks for the comment, I reconsidered it and changed it some. I still need advice. I am VERY new to this, and am basing a lot of my choices off of what I see on LogicalIncrements, PCPartPicker, Amazon, and NewEgg.

(CPU) http://www.amazon.com/Intel-I5-6600-FC-LGA14C-Processor-BX80662I56600/dp/B01MCSZLSE/?tag=logicaincrem-20&th=1
(RAM) https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2133MHz-Non-ECC-Desktop-HX421C14FBK2/dp/B00TY6A1P0/ref=pd_sbs_147_5?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=46BE99WVM5XCNVQAME2F&th=1
(Motherboard) https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-DDR4-Intel-Motherboard-Z170-P/dp/B012VOO3E6/?tag=logicaincrem-20

>>57670965

I still think youre trolling but you need an SSD. Also if you want to play games you need a gpu.

>Check to see if there's any deals on z170s
>Asus' has like 8 versions of the damn thing

Yeesh
Aside from one using ddr3 instead of ddr4 and form factors, I haven't looked too much into anything else that could be different.

>>57671018
I'm not trolling, I am FOR REAL this new.
I don't really care that much about write and read speeds. My concern is storage, and as far as I know, HGST/Hitachi is the most reliable.
I do gayme, but only because my friends do, it's not really an important part of my life. I'm on the fence buy thinking about trading the CPU even further for something with "nice" price:performance, perhaps a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 480. I try not to go over $650 in total price for everything but peripherals.
Maybe I would downgrade to an i3 6300 for ~$155?
I did the math for the parts, and trading for an i3 6300 + RX 480 would run me $642. Not sure if the i3 6300 would be worth it.

>>57671092
Clarification: I gayme frequently, but I may stop at some random time. My life would hardly be affected if I don't have a GPU.

>>57670788
you know you can make a custom parts on PCPartpicker manually, right?

>his build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cgq2bj
Anyway, lets tear this apart step by step.

>CPU and CPU cooler.
CPU is alright, Cooler is good, that's nice.
what isn't nice is the fact that the bundle costs more than the two items separate.
>327.97 > 319.87

>Mobo
You buy a processor-

>thread updates.

Alright lets change it up some.
>CPU+Cooler
Same problem again.
>RAM
Too slow, need 3000MHz for Z170/overclocking.
>Mobo
Eh, could be cheaper.

You know what, fuck it.
I'm tired of putting your links and searching shit up, here have a build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xnMYQV

And it's too much, here's another one that's cheaper.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gy9ZzM

>>57671092
If you're this new, tell me how much time you've spent doing research?

Also,
>i3-6300
It's just a 0.2 GHz upgrade for a stupid price from a 6100, get the 6100 and a 470(144 right now, overclocked version of the card I have, works fine, check links above).

So I'm looking to get a full upgrade, but want to see how worth it it will be at this time.
Currently I'm running an i5-4460, 16 gigabytes of ram, and CPU graphics. Am I better off doing a 6500K build from scratch, or just putting a new GPU and PSU in my current setup? Will my 4460 be relevant for much longer, with the somewhat recent addition of the 6800K and upward?

>>57671092
>>57671104
Alright, alright.

I've calmed down a bit, was really ticked earlier.
But-
>Post purpose of build
>Post budget
>Read sticky
>Do some research
>Make build
>THEN post it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFq2bj

Also, if you can tolerate an i3-6100, by all means, go with this.

If storage is your thing, 120 for OS, 2TB for whatever you have.

Mobo is Z170 with 3000MHz Ram in the case you decide to upgrade to an Intel K CPU that can overclock, as all non-K CPUs are locked, along with all non-Z170 Mobos.
No -K suffix at the end, no overclocking(only in really rare cases, while back there was something going on with manufacturers releasing shit that could do that before intel patched it.)

>>57671186
>6500K
You mean 6600K
>i5-4460.
Keep it, just see if you can get faster RAM or so.

Depending on what your motherboard allows, you can have 2133MHz DDR3 Ram which works nicely in your case.

>6800K
Wouldn't worry too much about it.

Just get a GPU/PSU and upgrade when intel's prices drop when AMD rolls out ZEN.

>>57671084
List the two GPUs, then we'll have a better idea of what you're talking about.

>>57671113
>>57671187

I started researching a few hours ago. Very new.

Also, no, thank you for telling me. No more of this awful linking shit.

(The above text is old, I have been distracted some)

Fuck me, I glanced over what was said on OP.

Needed advice: What do I look for in a motherboard besides ports?

>>57671249
*And the pin configuration for the CPU; I mean BGA, LGA, etc.

>>57671249
Check reviews, brand names, etc.
If there's a lot of bad shit going on with them, like DOA, unuseable interface, etc. drop it.

Make sure you have the correct form factor for the case you are using.
Micro ATX inside of an ATX case can work, but it looks silly as hell.

Even more so with Mini-ITX which is even smaller.

if you're not too strapped/want to save physical space on the PC, M.2 Drives like the one I posted earlier require an M.2 port on the mobo. Make sure it has that if you really need it.

Check how many PCIe x16 slots it has if you need multiple GPUs, etc.

>>57671270
partpicker will limit you to the socket for whatever CPU you chose, but as for chipsets, the info on them is in the sticky.

Also, stay away from mobo's that use DDR3 RAM with Skylake processors(6th generation intel processors, i3/i5/i7 - 6X00).

>>57671239

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+1060&id=3548

vs.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+980&id=2953

I don't get how the second one is more expensive and performs better (according to G3Dmark) while having 2gb lower memory, and lower core and memory clock speeds...

>>57671300
Thank you!
Why should I avoid DDR3 RAM with Skylake? Do these bottleneck?

>>57671300
Any advice on this?
>>57670052

>>57669061
Question how much is that in Noctua fans roughly.

>Should i upgrade my 980ti to 1080 or
>wait for a 1080ti or
>buy a HTC vive?

My friend gave me a used hard drive can, I use it without consequences?

EVGA 450B or EVGA 500W?

>>57671313
Lemme explain.

10-60.
10th generation, 3rd card in the line up of that generation
1050, 1060, 1070, 1080, etc.

So 9th generation, best card in the line up of that generation as well.

Best way to compare-
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2576vs3639


>>57671328
No, DDR3 is slower. starts out at 1333 MHz, then can branch up to 2133MHz, but DDR4 STARTS at 2133MHz and can branch farther.


>>57671334
>CPU
Fine
>Cooler.
Better look up reviews on that thing man, I think I did once and I wasn't sure what to make of it. Check all the sites.
>Mobo
95 for one with wifi, works out.
>RAM
Works out
>Storage
950 Pro, woah, what the fuck.
I mean, that's pretty fucking high end, but I'd stick with an 850 EVO at 500 GBs at the same price or so if I had the chance. M.2 form included as well.

And the 3TB HDD, look up reviews on that as well, Western digital and Hitatchi are my Go to for that kind of stuff.

>Case
Don't know too much about corsair, but I'd look up reviews and go with it.
>PSU
Not bad, seasonic. Though go for 750w if you're going to get a GPU.

>>57671372
wait for 1080ti

>>57671381
Yeah, just format the HDD, and make sure not to tilt it around while it's operating/shaking or moving it.

Especially the shaking part even when it's off, did that with an old HDD and got the clicking noise of death. Then again, it WAS a seagate.

>>57671393
500w
You always want room for expansion.
I have the 450w and have to buy a new PSU if I want to upgrade my videocard.

>>57671432
But one is bronze and the other isn't.

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Would a 2TB WD Blue be sufficient as a drive for music, movies, and general storage? I won't be booting my OS or playing any games off of this particular drive and I'm not sure if spending the extra cash on a 2TB Black would really be worth it.

Also, from what I understand 2TB Blues are actually just rebranded Greens, is that a bad thing?

>>57671432
Thanks. This has been a nice learning experience.
t. half awake

>>57671449
They made the head parking less aggressive for less wear, but it's still there. Go for it if it's the cheapest 2TB drive you can get your hands on. Seagate 2TBs are cheaper and equally reliable, contrary to outdated information. The newer WD Blues have a higher fail rate than before, about on par with the older WD Green (I wonder why).

>>57671432
Thanks man.

Isn't the 950 NVMe but not the 850? How much performance hit would be using 850? I might as well go with a Intel 600p or Sandisk...

>>57669438
They seem okay. I see alot of peoplpe getting Zotac and EVGA 1060's.

>>57671438
The 80+ bronze, gold, etc are just indicators on how much power is saved when you pull power from the wall.

So if you get a 75% efficient PSU, and your PC pulls 250w, it's pulling 333w out of the wall actually.

The higher it gets, the higher the effieciency, etc.

For the most part, it doesn't make that big of a difference on your electricity bill, something like 20 bucks a year, I might be wrong so if someone could correct me on that, I'd appreciate it.

>>57671581
Userbenchmarks is your friend.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-950-NVMe-PCIe-M2-256GB-vs-Samsung-850-Evo-500GB/m38570vs3477

But I'm really curious, what are you putting on that SSD other then the OS?

Is there any real difference between RAM brands?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c78H99/kingston-memory-hx430c15sb2k216

I'm trying to pick between these two brands and even though their specs are the same they're priced totally differently. What's the difference? I want to save money, but I don't want to get fucked over.

>>57671633
No, not really.

If you ask me, I think it's just the economy being weird again.

>>57669438
the cards are good, but the customer service is pretty bad. I've heard the warranties aren't great either. The price is right on that one, especially with the rebate.
Just know what RMA'ing it or a need for customer support might be a giant pain in the ass.

Just did a motherboard change in a Define S case and I realized the motherboard standoff screws are stripped. Well not the screws but the holes. Anyone has suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WcDdr7
Is this fine?

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just bought a graphics card. my rig is now complete

what do you guys think about my budget gaming build?

i3-6100 - $100
h100 - $40
>micro center deal if you buy cpu+mobo combo they take off $30
8gb ram - $40
1tb hdd - $40
120gb ssd - $40
gtx 1050 ti - $135
bronze 500w evga - $45
corsair 88r case - $40


23 inch acer 1080p - $80
amazon basics mouse keyboard combo - $15
amazon basics speakers - $12.50

the gpu should be here in a day or two. its my first build and im pretty stoked

>>57671734
You did a good job shopping. You might crave a cpu upgrade in the future, but your board will support Kaby Lake so it's all good.
In the mean time, fix those cables, Jesus.

>>57671734

Spot on budget build, good job anon!!

>>57671627
Thanks. Welp, that benchmarks bring me back on the 950.

On that SSD, there will probably be OS, and probably iOS and Android app sources that I'm working on, so I won't need the performance increase, per se, but still there like a 90% increase in 950...

>>57671768
lol i just dont know what to do with them. i tried making them look a little better but im just not that good :|

>>57671826
Well before you buy it, DO watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9r6zUyKx8
It's a bit long, but there's a part he does talk about the performance of an SSD.

>>57671829
Plastic.
Cable.
Tie.
EVERYTHING.

>>57671829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrfBAGYbtgI

Noob here

How do you order all your parts? All from newegg? Amazon? Combo depending on deals?

>PowerColor Radeon R7 370, 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5

>CORSAIR VS Series VS600 (600W Power Supply)

>Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM

>Crucial MX300 750GB SSD SATA

About $390 to upgrade my PC, I'm broke 24/7 so this was my one shot at getting a good system. Motherboard and CPU are good, just everything else was a bottleneck.

Did I do good for a budget upgrade?

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>>57669160
>6600k for $177
wew, but who actually goes to stores to shop?

>>57670566
That's EVGA only that is making shitty incomplete coolers
But the 1060 tends to run hot in general, make sure there's at least two fans on your cooler

>>57671964
That gpu is pretty weak sauce but if you need 700gigs of ssd i dont think you can do anything

>>57671911
>plug the 8-pin cpu cable in first, then plug it in to the PSU.
Holy shit why did I never think of this? I've already built 3-4 systems with modular units and always plugged into the psu first.

>>57670709
Xeons have tons of cores but pathetic IPC and single core performance
Games rarely use more than two cores, DX11 can't even utilize over 4 threads (DX12 seems to top out at 6 cores) it's still up to game devs to make multicore processing run well anyways, and they aren't doing a good job
Get one of the simple streamlined quad cores with insane single thread performance (basically the whole core line)

>>57671911
nice little vid

im gunna browse for a bit tonight and ill get on it sometime tomorrow

>>57671964
>PowerColor Radeon R7 370
wouldn't a gtx 1050 perform better? Or shit, at that point try to find a used Gtx 960 or something.

1070 at $370 or wait for Vega

1070 at $370 or wait for Vega

1070 at $370 or wait for Vega

1070 at $370 or wait for Vega

>>57669061
are noctua fans a meme?

Any decent recs on a cooler (liquid or not dont care) for a 6300? The stock cooler has been hell for the past year and I wanna take advantage of these sales while I can.

>>57669061
Ironically that picture shows some of the best GPU cooling you can do this side of watercooling.

I ripped off the shroud and fans off an ASUS DirectCUII and ghettorigged some cheap 120mm case fans (Alpenföhns) directly onto the heat sink. Went from being the loudest GPU I've ever known to the quietest I've ever known.

>>57672074
Wait until computers are obsolete, that's how to get the absolute best price to performance

>>57672089
my buddy has one and theyre really nice and quiet. but for the price you might as well hop onto water cooling

thats just my opinion

>>57672093
Hyper 212 evo or other $20 equivalent

>>57672026
I'm planning on buying better hardware when I have more money, which will take forever cause I'm on a college budget.

>>57672059
Yeah, but I think it can at least run games at medium-high quality, as long as textures look good and I'm getting 60 FPS then I can't complain. Again poor orphan boi who has to afford a $89 GPU.

>>57672089
They're fans, they spin just like other fans, and move air just like other fans, they just cost $25 a fan.

>>57671945
go to pcpartpicker.com and research shops that aren't in the site.

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I am trying to get to my laptop's CPU to put Thermal Paste on it, and was doing fine until these things. How do I remove these things conveniently and safely? It has little straps on the wires but one they aren't attached to the jack itself so all the force is going against the wires, and two they lack the adhesive to sit still. The videos I watched show them pulling on the wires to remove it, but that makes me scream inside and I'm pretty sure I'll tear the wires out sooner than the jack. The last one I did took 10 minutes of fingernail digging, which I can't afford here because of all the junk next to it.

Picture may not be upright because phones are weird.

I want to change my 10 years old Lian-li case
What's better between the nzxt S340 and the corsair 400C?
or anything better in the $130 price range

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>>57672116
seriously, just try looking for some used gpu's. the 370 is pretty damn weak.

>>57672074
1070 is essentially midrange chip and will be very obsolete in a year. wait.

>>57672116
A 370 with new games might not be able to hold up at high settings, definitely not 60fps at high
The 1050 might be better for $100, I haven't looked much into it though

>>57672113
So any noise issues with these since they're not liquid? Wanna make sure I'm not buying another vacuum by mistake.

>>57672179
At what resolution?
I don't think there's enough gimping in the world to bring a 1070 below 60fps at 1080p

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>>57672169
>>57672189
It can at least run games at decent quality until I can get an upgrade so there's that, I'll be ok for medium quality cause I've had to deal with medium quality forever now.

>mfw I ordered the part instead of just asking here in the first place.

>>57669353
Ye, microcenter right now has amazing prices. I picked up a 6600k for 179, MSI M7 for 159, and a zotac 1070 amp extreme for 430, which is about what the online stores are selling it for instead of the original 530 that they wanted.

>>57672197
It's not bad, it's the noise of one fan. Much quieter than my H100i watercooler with two fans and a liquid pump making noise honestly
I'm not one to be picky about noise but it's not noisy to me at all
You can always get a better quieter fan and replace it (the hyper 212 has normal fan mounts too)

>>57672197
It's no stock cooler is what I'm saying, the Intel stock coolers are the jet engine, most big bulky tower coolers just have one or two normal fans and are very quiet
I switched from a liquid AIO to an aircooler because I wanted a CPU cooler that essentially cant break or "wear down"

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Ordered a MSI GamingX Rx 480 for this bad boy. Just aiming for ultra settings 1080p/60 with a bit of longevity. I use the word longevity because future-proofing doesn't really work except for power supply and case.

>>57671891
Thanks for all the help man. Will watch that

>>57672197
Liquid coolers are usually louder than air coolers because of the pump.

How do I know what case to get? My motherboard says micro ATX form factor, but I have no idea if that's micro ATX desktop, mid, or mini tower. None of the other parts mention a case size, is the motherboard the only part that's important regarding case size?

The two cases I'm looking at:
>Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
>Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0

>>57669061
thats like $1k of fans

>>57672203
Games are still taking a while to catch up with the GPU performance jump of 14nm, but it's soon going to happen and then the 1070 will be just what it is: a midrange card.
When Volta comes out in 6-12 months they will likely rebadge the 1070 to 1160 and sell it for $200-$250. Then games will be designed with even more powerful cards in mind.

Now is really not the time to buy graphics cards.

When/why should I swap from air cooling to liq?

Friend swears by liquid cooling and I'm maybe in the market for black friday/cyb mon

Anyone own a fractal design define r5? Is the airflow decent or does fractal offer better cases?

>>57672232
>>57672276
Alright, thanks for the advice. I got some extra fans lying around that aren't too loud, so I can replace it if it's too loud.

>>57672328
airflow is as good or bad as any other conventional ATX tower - and the R5 is as conventional as can be.

If you want airflow you should be looking at cases with 180mm fans and/or unusual airflow designs. Either cubes (Corsair, Thermaltake, Lian Li of you have money to burn) or 90° turned cases (Silverston FT2 or FT5)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t46ZzM

How's this?

I usually do some gaming, I host a web server, and I also process and edit videos at images at higher resolutions (usually 1920x1080). I also edit audio. My games (TF2, Blockland, etc.) are not very resource-intensive.

Note: I will most likely be running either Windows 7 Ultimate or Xubuntu, although I will probably dual-boot. I do not want to go over $650, so I can't afford an SSD with decent capacity, but I can live without it.

Any thoughts?

(Thank you earlier anon for helping me)

>>57672415
use an i5 for that video / photo editing. If your games are not demanding, get a gtx 1050ti.
I've heard win-7 is a bitch to get working on skylake btw, so you may want to consider Haswell if using Win7 is essential to you.
Get a cheaper power supply. You aren't even breaking 300 watts with that. Less if you get the 1050ti like I suggested. something 450w max is all you need. Dropping the GPU and psu down should give you a few extra dollars to get a 120gb / 240/250gb SSD.

>>57672457
I can use Windows 10 LTSB if I need to. No issue with that.
What about futureproofing?

>>57672089
Absolutely not. I can vouch for them being an order of magnitude better than Corsair fans. I had a loud build with a Corsair closed loop cooler, replaced them (and my case fans) with Noctua fans, now it is silent.

>>57672479
futureproofing what exactly? A modern i5 will last for years. A gtx 1050ti is more than enough to play tf2 and other low demand games above 100fps at 1080p. Pc parts are using less electricity each generation, so unless you want a monster GPU or a SLI/Crossfire setup, I doubt a 450w unit will hold you back. Get a 500w unit if you're really not sure.

Any good build deals (including accessories) going on right now for Black Friday?

Plan to build my first desktop but dont have the cash yet, jw if there's a deal I dont want to miss

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FpxK2R

How's this? Desiring constant 60+ fps in games like Grim Dawn, Poe, Rising Storm at 1920x1080; fine with disabling post processing and lowering other settings if need be.

>>57672536
>>57672479
>>57672457
>>57672415
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xMpkgL

Gonna do 2x builds for my wife and I.

1060 6GB
i5 6600K
Z170 motherboard
16GB DDR4
650W Corsair fully modular PSU
Corsair 200R
Whatever Coolermaster fits the CPU

What do you guys think? I want them to be able to run TW3 at 1080/60 on Ultra.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jr77pb

any tips?

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first time building a pc, these are the parts that i just bought. i also bout an 8 gb stick of vengance ddr4 i just derped and didnt add it to my cart before checking out. is this okay or?

>>57672634
>h170 with a K cpu
you fucked up

Is a 4790k for $270 a good deal?

>>57672634
Looks good, though you might add an HDD for basic storage and pirate the OS to save cash.

>>57672605
Is the corsair psu a CX unit? If so don't use it. They're bad. Most of their other stuff is great though. If you're at 1080p, you probably don't need 16gb ram. If your board has 4x ram slots you can just populate them later if you feel the need. Rest seems pretty legit. My 6600k at 4.1ghz sits at about 55c in games with a hyper 212evo. I wish I bought a cryorig H7 though.

>>57672623
Pic related is for you.

>>57672663
I'm wrong about the PSU. I'm actually thinking of going with an EVGA SuperNova 650W.

>>57672536
>>57672479
>>57672457
>>57672578
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xMpkgL
Shit, thanks! I've been busy
This would work perfectly

>>57672634
Intel 6XXXK CPUs require Z170 chipset motherboards to overclock

Intel 6XXX CPUs can't overclock.

That's it.

>>57672634
Case is shit. You bought a motherboard that won't let you overclock. Probably should've bought a Cheaper power supply. The SSD is really nice, but that price is a tad high. I payed $79.99 for mine a while ago. The rest is pretty good.

>>57672645
6700k is going for $299 right now. If you already have a Haswell mobo, and are just upgrading from an i3 or something, sure get it. Otherwise get a 6700k just to take advantage of ddr4.

>>57672723
I have a 4570 right now. Probably gonna grab either a 1060 or 1070 tomorrow or Monday as well

I need a new HDD, I was looking at Toshiba ones, and noticed they have 32mb of cache is that bad?. or should I go for a WD blue, mostly going to use it for storage

>>57672693
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6jHTzM
How's this new list? Thank you anons who've shown me the light in terms of video cards.

>>57672147
Better yet, is there a catalogue of the different ports and how to remove them? No video I found has any words, let alone description of how to remove parts, and is just a pair of hands doing things that are hidden behind the hands.

>>57672310
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMBpm8
Bumping with current parts list. Also looking for any general advice.

>>57672824
spend $5 more to get a cryorig h7 IMO. Better performing, easy install. Looks good. It's extremely popular though, so It goes through out of stock stretches.

I know this belongs more in /mkg/ than /pcbg/ but they're slow to respond, and I'm not sure how long this 'deal' will be available.

Long story short, poorfag with about $80 left to spend and I want to get a mechanical keyboard.
>http://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g610-orion-red-backlit-mechanical-gaming-keyboard/5053320.p?skuId=5053320
Is this any good, or are there better boards available within my budget?

I don't exactly like Reds, and I'd prefer Browns or Blacks, but I'm really stretched thin on money. Should I risk it and just wait to see what deals are available on Friday/Monday?

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Looking at prebuilds in my area found this: https://www.vistek.ca/store/Computers/410303/hewlettpackard-z240-tower-workstation-35-ghz-xeon-e31245v5-4core/Specs.aspx

Assume if I build it myself it will be way cheaper, but is it any better than what I currently have? (pic related) I Built my current machine through dell but they don't offer that service any more. (I probably got stiffed I assume) I just want to upgrade from this for a reasonable price (2-3k $CAN) If I can get building and delivery included without sacrificing too much I might go for it.

I just want to run photoshop and newer steam games without killing it. My current machine is about 6 years old and I'm pretty sure all the parts are just dying so I want to get another machine ordered for if it does just die, rather than buying replacement parts for what I assume is a bad build I picked from dell years ago.

I've been recommended PCPartsPicker, but I really don't know where to start.

>>57672865
you have a non-overclockable cpu with an aggressive cooler plus a z170 mobo. Either get a 6600k or drop the cpu cooler.
Do you actually need win10 pro? Cuz home is $80 right now.

1060 or RX 480?

Thanks /g/. It was worth it not to lurk for once.

>>57672879
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid, despite the cheesy name, is a pretty high quality for cheap board. It has genuine Cherry switches. The cherry Blue (loud and clicky) version is $73 on amazon right now. Worth the extra $13 IMO. I can't be bothered to research the one you posted much, but check reviews.

>>57672909
It's a debate for the ages really. 1060 is indisputably better for 99% of games /right now/, but AMD has a long track record of their cards aging better. In addition, the 480 supports Dx12 and Vulkan better. It already kicks ass in Doom and Battlefield 1. That said, the 1060 is $50 more right now, and the MSI Gaming X version of the 480 is $199 plus a rebate and comes with Civ6. I just bought the 480, because to me, the 1060 isn't $50 better.

>>57672901
I just picked the cheapest cooler in the tier list on logicalincrements. Is there anything wrong with the z170?

>Win10 Pro
Yep, only version with the hypervisor and remote desktop. I'll settle on Home depending on what the prices look like tomorrow and Monday.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBWCFd should I pull the trigger

i plan on using it for 1080p gaming, maybe 2k later on

I just finished assembling all my new parts, but my old HDD is causing problems.

I have to wipe the HDD and install Windows 7 it, but it's not recognizing the external cd-disk with Windows 7 CD on it.

I thought the software setup would be easier, but this has stopped me entirely, and I can't find any working methods.

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>>57672986
Here's the error itself

If anyone has any solutions, it'd help a lot.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wkgjNN
Is my PSU overkill for this build?

What z170 motherboard should I get?

>>57672975
z170 chipset is meant for overclocking. If you don't plan on overclocking, you can get a much cheaper b150/ h170 motherboard with (mostly) the same features. The cooler is overkill if you don't overclock. If you only plan on running stock clocks, use the intel stock cooler, or get a $10 cooler to reduce noise, and your temps will be acceptable for normal every day use.

>>57673027
A mATX one that costs under $100

How to get best savings on Friday?

Just search amazon/newegg and order best deals from each?

>>57672961
Gonna nab that 480, thanks dawg

>>57673050
https://slickdeals.net/deals/computer-parts/
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales

Friend is absolutely content on buying a prebuilt pc, any tips on where and what so he doesnt get scammed as bad?

He'll mostly be using it for gaming and drawing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hjwn8K
Rate setup?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3v9pm8

For gaming. Should I go through with this? I have a spare hdd so no need for that. I was wondering if there's any reason for me to get an nvidia GTX 1080 instead of MSI. Should I get some case fans too? If so which ones and how many?

>>57673105
if he is your friend, how about you help him build one?

>>57673105
https://slickdeals.net/f/9338759-gaming-desktop-i7-6700k-gtx-1080-480gb-ssd-8gb-ddr4-1000w-psu-100-gc-win-10-1131-90?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

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>>57673080
You are officially mah nigga.

>>57673126
he moved 6 months ago to new york, and I am in texas, and he does NOT want to build one himself, or deal with any other "hassles"

so he wants prebuilt.

>>57673136
thank you, very much.

>>57673168
>he does NOT want to build one himself, or deal with any other "hassles"

I'll be honest, let him buy whatever he wants.
The smart thing to do is make your own, as it's cheaper.

But if he wants to go that route, then let him go it.

>>57673028
Ohh, shit, thanks! I really appreciate this advice.

>>57673168
Here's a few more budget options

https://slickdeals.net/f/9423023-lenovo-ideacentre-700-25ish-tower-i7-6700-16gb-ddr4-gtx-960-2gb-120gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-dvdrw-wifi-ac-400w-psu-win10-home-725-with-f-s?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

https://slickdeals.net/f/9404671-dell-inspiron-3650-desktop-i7-6700-2tb-2gb-r9-360-win-7-599-free-s-h?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

>>57673066
If you haven't already bought it, let me clarify a bit. I got myself a 480 because the conclusions I drew told me that it was a better purchase for myself.
What the 1060 has going for it is awesome temps, great overclocking, better software, including Nvidia shadow play which I rather enjoy using to share a couple of quick videos with friends. I'm going to have to find a new recording software when i get my 480. And in most current games like Witcher, GTAV, ect, the 1060 is ahead by a good performance chunk. I'd use a 1060 for 1440p. I wouldn't use a 480 for 1440p.

>>57673126
this. I just did the exact same thing for my buddy. I had an FX 8350 and some ddr3 sitting around (i upgraded to a 6600k since my mobo died). I sold him my parts for super cheap, bought him a power supply, gtx 1060, a micro atx mobo, some cheap hard drives, and shoved the stuff into the dead carcass of an old Dell. He's using it for photoshop and Overwatch, and is super happy. He barely payed over $500.

>>57673253
wish I had a friend like you

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>building new pc after 6 years
>put everything together
>push power button
>doesn't post
>mfw bought the wrong ram
say la vee, i guess.

>>57673253
Shit, that's true about Shadowplay, I use that a lot.

>>57673136
damn... that's actually rather hard to beat even if self built. In fact, I'm putting together a list on pcpartpicker with the same specs and I'm well above $1300. Haven't even added the storage drives yet.

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Planning to go SLI when the new Vega cards come out. But besides that, what should I pick up for some cyberpunk a e s t h e t i c ?

>>57673323
You can get it cheaper in parts if you know how to look for deals. (which pcpartpicker is shit for)

I need 16GB of DDR3 ram.
What do yoy recommend, on sale preferably?

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>>57673339
well do you have any other recommended sites to buy parts?

Should i get a Samsung - 850 EVO 250GB/500GB and an rx 480 and get a new cpu next year when all the new ones come out?

>>57673388
here >>57673080

Being a poorfag on Black Friday is suffering.
If I'm already pushing budget limits with a 120gb SSD, and there's a 240gb SSD that's $12 dollars more, should I just get the 240?

>>57673420
hell ye

>>57673441
>/g/entooman forces Anon to spend even more money on computer parts so Anon has less money to spend on Dragon Dildos
T-thanks.

>>57673478
If $12 makes that much of a difference to you, don't buy an SSD in the first place.

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Upgrading my CPU and Motherboard tomorrow at black friday. I've decided to grab a i5 6600k from Microcenter. Can't decide on a motherboard though. Only recommendation I've gotten from asking online is a ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming. I'd love to get more recommendations/options though. I don't really overclock and I value reliability/long lasting over anything else. My budget is up to $150.

Honestly even brand recommendations would be helpful. Never bought a motherboard before so really don't know much.

Posted my speccy for my motherboard size. I switched out my 780 for my old 9800 because I thought it went bad.

Is black friday the best time of year to buy components?


Is there a cheaper time? I don't really recall any times that components go on sale, just wondering if I don't buy shit today if I'll be fucked.

$70 for a 240GB Samsung 850 EVO
OR
$52 for a 250GB Sandisk SSD PLUS (G26)?

The Sandisk one is kind of shitty, but it's cheap as hell. Will a nice Samsung one last any longer??

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Talk me out of buying this deal. After customizing it with i7-6700k, 16gb ram, 1080 hybrid water cooled, and few other changes it comes out to a little over 2k. It also includes a vive.

This seems to be the first pre-built that is cheaper than buying the parts seperate. Black Friday deals are fucking with my head.

What do i do?

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Panzer_VR_HTC_Vive_Edition

>>57673493
msi z170 sli plus is what I'm running right now. I got it purely for the steel reinforced PCIE slots because I'm autistic about GPU sag. I payed $130 for it and don't regret it. Keep in mind, if you want a z170, you will also need new DDR4 ram.

>>57673493
msi motherboards shshshshhs

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZTTzM

Anything I should change about this build?

I'm about to buy it.

>>57669061
Not enough fans.

so I'm looking to build a new gaming computer to share with the partner
kinda want something small so we can move it around, thinking micro atx case
I like the thermaltake core v21, but if there's anything better with plenty of airflow I'm game

small is better, it's probably gonna be air cooled anyways
I'm hoping to stay around 700 but i can go higher if need be
the only really necessary things I have no far are an i5 and gtx 1070 or an amd that's comparable

anybody have recs on mobo and case?

>>57673556
what graphics card is in there? If it doesn't list one, it might be a shitty low end gpu. My guess is that it's probably a 970, 480, or 1060 though to classify as "VR ready"

>>57673561

Yea I realized that. No big deal. I'd rather pay more to future proof it. 70 dollars for RAM isn't that big a deal.

>>57673595

Default load out is 1060.

But with Black Friday if you choose the 1080 you get a free upgrade to EVGA 1080 Hybrid. The liquid cooled version

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72NwkT
Rate my build?

>>57673112
bump

i have a
CPU:amd 8350
GPU:amd r9 290
3 Crucial SSD for raid reasons (if you dont know what raid is pls lurk more)
case: corsair 540 (because the 290 is a fire hazard and needs as much cooling as possible)
PSU: corsair CX 750 M ( is a fine psu basic)
and 16 gig of corsair vengeance ddr 3 ram ( i know i know ddr 4 came out suck my dick)

I use this for gaming and to jerk off pretty much i have a file sever computer with 5 tb and 16 gigs of ecc ram i use that to have all my dowloaded porn saved and for other tools,music games ect also

>>57673556
>>57673595
Wait, sorry, I'm retarded and didn't read. using the same case, cpu, a not water cooled GPU, no keyboard, and decently cheap everything else, the cheapest I could get it was $2000. As much as build enthusiasts don't want to admit, sometimes there really are bitchin' deals on pre-built comupters.

>>57673655
get the i5 6600k in microcenterrrrrr boi

>>57673658
i also manage at my job 5 servers and 300 computers is my first IT job ever but lets just say im around these things alot and porn is the only reason why i love computers

>>57673556
This came out at a little over 2K

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JjQsnn

>>57673678
Wait, what.

>>57673678
>>57673638
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mpLgQV
This is what I came out with for $2018. It doesn't even use an SSD. Granted, i could shave a few dollars off the motherboard, cpu cooler, power supply, ect. But you wanted me to present a 'better' build for the same price or 'the same' build for cheaper.

>>57673691

Damn so that is a good deal. Since it comes with a vive already

>>57673691
You didn't include the Vive, which itself is $699.

>>57669160
>Fry's
As someone who worked at one, don't even bother going in

Best 16:10 monitor under $500?
The 1600p ones I'm seeing are too large and overpriced, and some 1200p ones are of dubious quality.

>>57673681
>store only

Literally cucked outta an amazing deal.

>>57673705

Hmm I already have a psu and I can get windows through my university. So that would save me about 200 bucks. Pretty good build thanks for help. I have a little more research to do.

average price on motherboard? buying a 90 dollar one but seeing other peoples builds with better graphics card seems like its not really necessary to get an almost 100 dollar mobo

To mexicans:
I found a EVGA Supernova 750W B1 PSU for 1500 brand new.
Is it a good deal?

For a mid tower, will I need one of those closed loop liquid coolers to properly cool a 6700k, a 1070, a BD drive and 2HDDs? (there's also 2 SSD's but they are mounted in behind the backplate so they shouldn't affect the cooling)

I'm worried there won't be good enough air flow and if i'm doing air cooling for the CPU I might be better off with a full tower, especially since I plan on adding a 3rd HDD.

>>57673741
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JB6bCy
Removing psu, windows, and dropping to a 1070 (but adding an ssd) brings it to $1739.

>>57673583

That looks real good

if i can get a new i76700k at 175 usd is it worth it over an i5 6600k at 120?

Also how much of a speed upgrade would i get from a solid state drive? shits pricey

Alright I decided I'm going to get a 1060 3gb, is PNY any good?

>built my first computer in 2012 with the help of a knowledgeable friend
>computer is starting to show its age with newer games
>don't even know what parts I have in it and wouldn't remember how to put it back together if I took it apart

Being a fucking retard isn't rewarding

>>57673865

Where did you see i5 6600k for 120?

>>57673391
Pls help

>>57673865

Holy shit. Where? At that price go for the 6700k

>>57673729
Haha same here. Only go back to get employee discount from my friend

Need help with my destitute poorfag build lads:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ryzLwV

What do you guys think of Patriot SSDs? Is it good?

>>57673910
A blessing isnt it?

How does this look.

Evga z170 classified k
evga 650 g3 supernova psu
i7 6700k
corsair lpx vengeance 16gb 3000 mhz
gtx 680 (will replace at some point in the future)
and maaaaybe a ssd, imnot sold on the price per Gb

>>57673938

What are you trying to do with it?

If you're trying to keep it that cheep you'd be better off buying a notebook.

>>57673391
>>57673898
If you need new parts or an upgrade, just get them whenever you have enough money to comfortably buy them. Last gen hardware is only ever really cheap if it's used. You won't save that much money by torturing yourself waiting for an upgrade or waiting to have a working pc.

>>57673953

btw main purpose is gaming and 3d modeling / rendering. the gpu is an old one i already had.

>>57673955
>What are you trying to do with it?
Just webdev and browsing really, youtube probably the most taxing thing I do with my computer.

>If you're trying to keep it that cheep you'd be better off buying a notebook.

Nah m8.

>>57673953
Only get that motherboard if you are going to use that sweet ass $40 rebate. Otherwise, get something a bit more reasonable. It's quite a nice board though.
Evga GQ 650w is $70 right now and aaaalmost as good as the g3. You won't notice a difference. Ram is a good choice.
You /probably/ don't need the hyperthreading for what you use, but I imagine the 3d modeling could benefit, and the 6700k is on sale atm so up to you.
t. A Cheap-Ass Penny-Pincher.

>>57673938
Honestly that looks pretty solid. You could drop in a 1050 at a later date and it would be able to do light gaming alright too. Though if you are thinking of doing that I would say jump up to the i3 6100.

>>57674045
pentium g4400 is a bit better. I'd say it's worth the extra $20. But if that $20 is a struggle to you, don't bother.
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT is $3 less.

>>57674036
is the evo 212 a good cooler? im worried about the weight because i think my thermalright 120 might have ruined the socket on my old board

>>57673955
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D66dr7

>i3 or go home

>>57673112
last bump

>>57674146
Im a fan of my 212 evo but it can be a bitch to install sometimes.

>>57673988
>dev
QUADCORE OR FUCK OFF

>>57673112
you seem set but with that much money i would've gone water cooling

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>>57674242
Intel pls go.

>>57674163
The power supply is rather silly. Get a more reasonable bronze or gold rated 600w or so at max. You're only using 425-450 watts at full load, overclocked. Use the extra savings to bump up your ram speed to 3000mhz. The rest all seems pretty reasonable for a 1440p / 4k gaming rig. If you're ONLY gaming, you can certainly get away with a 6600k. The h7 (a slight step up from the 212evo) is a nice cooler btw, but don't expect to get too high of an OC before it gets a little warm.

>>57674146
Weight? Nah should be fine. It's a little low end for something like a 6700k though. But personally, I'm using a 6600k at 4.1ghz with it and temps are pretty good. Depends how hard you want to push it I suppose. But if I were spending for a fancy-ass mobo, an i7, and other stuff, I think stepping into the $40-45 price range for a cooler isn't unreasonable.

>>57674154
if that anon is only doing web-browsing, then they probably won't see the benefits of dropping an extra $50 from a pentium to a celron. If they're trying to game off it, maybe? At that point i'd hop on craigslist and start looking for a used 750ti or something though. Actually, somebody on my local CL is selling a gtx 960 for $75.

>>57674212
cant be worse than the mount on my old thermalright, at least it has standoffs.

>>57674242
you don't need to compile JavaScript kiddo

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>q9400
>hd5850
>22" 1680x1050
>fug :-DD time to upgrade
>get demo FX-8350 cheap
>get used 960 cheap
>runs well

>saved so much money on parts thinking about monitor
>want dpi and hz
>look at monitors
>21.5" 1080p 75hz freesync
>25" 2560x1080 75hz

>960 can't freesync
>gsync is a fucking racket
>2560x1080 is too many pixels for the 960

>amd has NOTHING in the 960's price/perf bracket

>2560x1080 needs 470/970 performance
>1920x1080 doesn't, but 460 might struggle, and 470 is overkill just for freesync

just fucking kill me already

>>57674245
Not too familiar with water cooling. Do you mean the cooler master 212?

>>57674307
>The power supply is rather silly
I didn't want to spare any expense for the power supply. I want something that's efficient, so it doesn't overuse power, and stable. If there's an alternative let me know because I'm not good at picking parts. I'm also not looking to fiddle with overclocking and such.
>Ram speed
I was told 2666 was good enough instead of a 3000 which is only a 2% increase. But what would oyu recommend?

>>57674354
By overuse power do you mean contributing to your electric bill? nigga a 500w computer will cost you less per year than a few lightbulbs. As to stability goes, build quality is all that really matters. Seasonic m12ii 620 watts will be more than enough for your system and has superb reviews. If you NEED gold rating (you don't) the corsair RMx 550w is a great unit also that is very reliable. There's also lots of EVGA great power supplies in that price range with different ratings and features.

>>57674351
just get the 470 bro. Or just live with regular V-sync. I've been running regular 1080p for well over a year now (on a gtx 960 btw) and Most games look fantastic. Just set a manual limit of 60fps instead of using V-sync. There's also some good frame-time adjusting programs for free that help as much or more than freesync. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yeROJQR_qE

>>57674452
>By overuse power do you mean contributing to your electric bill?
Yeah, that's what I mean actually. Alright

>Seasonic M12ii 620
I only see a M12II 520, is that what you meant? Will that be more than enough?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze

Hey guys,

I posted a new thread that should have been a question on this one.

Could you guys take a look at this and offer advice to a noob?

>>57674497

>>57674351
there was an rx 480 4gb going for cheaper than gtx 960s ever were at msrp. probably still on newegg i'm not sure.

Can anyone recommend a decent windowed ATX/MicroATX Mid Tower for under $75?
I'm considering the Corsair Carbide 88R, Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower, Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Chassis, or the DEEPCOOL DUKASE V2.

If anyone has any experience with any of these cases and wants to chime in I'd appreciate it.
Links to each, in order:
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139068&Tpk=N82E16811139068
>http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=75045&vpn=FD-CA-DEF-R4-BL-W&manufacture=Fractal%20Design&promoid=1714
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854019&Tpk=N82E16811854019
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811853035

>>57674508
usually what I do for power supplies to determine wattage is take PCPartpicker's wattage estimate, and multiply it by x1.2 (or 20%). This helps account for random power spikes. Doing that to your machine gives me 446 (which is why I said 450w earlier). So tl;dr I'd say yes, a 520w unit is sufficient for you.

>>57669061
would this actually be objectively effective? ignoring cost, could this be quiet and cool?

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>>57674452
vsync when it's consistent is pretty good but it does create some input lag, and even with triple buffering it has problems with timing if you can't hit 60+ consistently

freesync completely solves the timing issue by displaying the frames at the correct time instead of waiting for refresh, at all framerates

higher Hz also semi-solves the issue by reducing the time difference between refresh and draw but then 144hz would probably be better, but I haven't seen any 144hz monitors in that price range with a dpi > 100

>>57674547
not american, if you'll fund shipping and import tax for me it might be a good deal

I have an incredibly retarded question: are mobo's backwards compatible? Say I bought a board with an 1151 socket, and I was still using an 1150 processor, would I be able to use the new mobo, or would I have to wait until I got a new CPU?

So... metal or acrylic for power supply shroud?

Should i get an Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB and rx 480 and wait for next gen cpu's? I currently have an fx 8320 and a radeon hd 7870 2gb

>>57674605
the motherboard typically advertises exactly which processors it's compatible with, look at that list, if it's not on there, sucks

you need the correct socket + chipset to support a given cpu

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getting an evga 1070 soon and i want to upgrade my monitor as well. should i go 1080p120hz, 1440p60hz, or 1440p120hz?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYMwkt
Built this a few days ago
The excess of drives is due to the ones I had lying around collecting dust.
Originally planned on getting a 5820k but the guy at the store sold me on a 6700k instead. Hopefully based Intel gods will put out a 8 or 6 core 1151 chip soon.

>>57674558
Thanks, Anon. Seems like I'll be good to go with this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M8hwkT

Right now I'm just unsure about whether I should get case fans and if there's an alternative to the video card

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Looking to upgrade my mobo/cpu, also potentially looking at upgrading the RAM.

Is there a way to get a good futureproofed mobo/cpu setup that is relatively well set up for the future for under 350-400 CAD? My biggest issue is finding a CPU that can trump new release games and I dont have to worry about being outdated a year from now.

>>57674620

If I change the motherboard and cpu, does that mean I have to reinstall the windows? Or is it a simple swap?

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>>57674621
1440p/120

live the dream for me

>>57674662
any recommendations? I can't seem to find much under $500 that isn't super sketchy.

>>57674619
Pls help. Im in a hurry

>>57674655
license is typically tied to motherboard so you may need to call them to reactivate

reinstalling would be a good idea regardless, but it should work

Is there an AMD equivalent for the 1070/1080 yet?

>>57674698
fury x or 390x

>>57674637
the r4 comes with one intake fan and one exhaust fan. should be sufficient. If you don't like your temps, an additional 120mm/140mm fan should be easy to install later.

As to the graphics card, the Zotac Amp! Edition 1080 is currently going for $584 from B&H photo. If you're close to New York City, you get free one-day shipping from them usually. I like them. The main difference between graphics cards of the same chipset is cooling solution, features like lighting / extra fan control, and factory-applied overclocks. If you don't know what any of that means or don't care, go for the cheapest one from a brand you trust. Or whichever one you like the asthetics of if you have a windowed case.

I need ram for my z97 build as mine have failed.
I used to have 8gb of g.skill sniper ram.
what's some good ddr3 ram? 16gb please.

>>57674718
can't go wrong with two of these http://pcpartpicker.com/product/cfW9TW/gskill-memory-f312800cl10s8gbxl

>>57674712
Thanks. I don't care about aesthetics or lights/overclock. I'll just stick to what I already have since it's not a huge price difference.

First time building a PC and I just ordered a MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard. The problem i have though is trying to figure out if this will work with the i7-6850k.

If it doesn't what would be a good, sort of on the cheaper side mother board to work with a 6-core chip?

>>57674774
you need an x99 motherboard for a 6850k. z170 is no good.

>>57674789
>x99 motherboard
Thank you, and recommendations on brand or specific board?

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>>57674452
alos the real dilemma is the 25" 2560 has a higher dpi, which I'd be willing to upgrade for, whereas the 1080 would fit better with my current setup, but I, ironically, need to upgrade to use fully

and freesync is an alluring future prospect regardless of anything, so by getting the more expensive 25" I'm locking myself out of a cheap upgrade path in the future

it's all just so confusing, I guess I'll just go for the 1080 since that wastes least money

muh dpi tho

affordable 24" 4k monitors for overclocking at lower resolutions when

>>57674667
There's a couple decently priced 1440p 144hz freesync monitors for around 350-400 USD on newegg.
I think they were Acer and AOC monitors.

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I need a
>large monitor, preferably 25" or larger
><5ms lag or 1ms if possible
>144hz refresh
>able to do 4k
>budget is $500

>>57674908
>144hz
>4k

outta luck buddy

>>57674920
shid :DD

2k, then

>>57674925
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009769

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>>57674925
I know you mean 1440p, but "2K" is what you'd call 1080p, since 1920 is close enough to 2000 lines

>>57674932
jesus tap-dancing christ, that is a great deal on that monitor.

>>57674667
Get some bomb ass meme monitor refurbished
Most of them time they've been used like one day before some gaymer had mommy return it

>>57674619
SOMEONE FUCKING HELP ME PLEASE

>>57674966
Yeah just like my ultrawide $200 monitor is 4K because it has 3960 lines

>>57674990
>>57674619
>>57674670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156124
Sale starts in 30 minutes for $120
I'd wait for Vega if I had a 7870 personally.

>>57674619
I already answered your question you fuck. >>57673956

>>57674925
PG278Q is what I got
27" 1440p 144Hz G sync TN panel (but 10 bit color) for $500 refurbished

>>57675040
Thanks i didnt see that

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>>57669061
I need a cooler for my i5-2500k and I have no clue for CPU coolers other than noctua nh-d14/15 which is a little bit pricey for me

>>57675092
How cheap are you?
212 Evo if you're poor, otherwise NH-U12S.

600$ build plans
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bh7bCy

good/bad/ugly?

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LBDVGf

howzit - I don't overclock or anything like that

>>57675108
thanks, this noctua is much more agreeable with my wallet

>>57675183
>Total: $545.13
You can get a 470 for about 40 bucks more than the 460 right now if you don't mind getting closer to 600.

>>57675183
>$85 cpu
>$60 cooler
Pretty bad anon.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4XfLwV

>>57675183
if you're getting FX that isn't vishera forget it

go for an 845 instead

>>57675311
you know what? Fuck it, drop an i5 in that sonuvabitch.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Interrobang42/saved/jpvf7P

Eternal poorfag here, I need an OS for my system that can play gaymes and while I want Windows 7, 8.1 is cheaper to buy.
Is there any way to get 7/8.1 for cheaper than $80?

Get this before it's too late:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291799630158

best black friday deal on ssd

So maybe a dumb question but how much of a hassle would it be to change cpu and mobo from AMD to Intel?

I went pretty poorfag on my pc when I built it a few years ago and I got a pretty shit mobo. Turns out that it couldn't even support a FX-8350 if I even wanted one, so I'm 99% decided that if I need to get a new mobo then I will just go with Intel and most likely get an i5, I think i7 would be overkill. Is this gonna be a huge hassle for me?

[spoiler]also what are some good mid range intel mobos[/spoiler]

>>57675450
Linux has pretty robust Steam support thanks to Glorious Lord Gaben. If the specific games you want don't have support, there's always Kinguin. It's valid key re-selling. It's sort of a legal grey area though.

>>57675227
i already have the 460 is the thing, it also seems to pair well with the middle spectrum of fx cpu's
>>57675311
amd = hot according to /g/, i wanted to try new stuff with this build, namely color coordination, AMD in general, and an AIO cooler
i know its stupid and i could get decent performance from even the stock cooler, or i could drop on a 212 evo
>>57675317
what does the 845 give that the 6300 doesnt, it seems a bit weaker performance wise and id have to move to fm2
>>57675344
i wanted to do an AMD build, ive only ever used intel except for the one time i built my sisters little athlon 5350 minecraft machine, and that was surprisingly well performing for the price of that 40$ apu

My mother needs a facebook/skype machine for web browsing and youtube video watching. She sent me this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAVC4HR7452&cm_re=optiplex_3020_micro-_-9SIAAVC4HR7452-_-Product

But I am hoping to find something just as good on sale. I can probably talk her into a tower if it isnt too big. Lets say the budget is 500 Thanks

What time do Black Friday deals end?

>>57673016
you have to load the driver for the optical drive onto the iso

Any recommendations on a quality 1080p IPS screen for gaming? I wanna take advantage of any good Black Friday sales. Trying to keep it under $200.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HgPkgL

Is this a good choice for a PSU or should I go for a different brand/wattage?
And has anyone had any experience with ordering the win10 copies offered on usb drives?

>have i5-6600k with Gigabyte mobo
>flash BIOS since I might consider a Kaby Lake i7 when it comes out so I can do video editing faster
>new BIOS looks way worse
I liked the minimalist gray BIOS Gigabyte had for Skylake. The Kaby Lake BIOS is a red and black mess that looks like MSI. No rollbacks either, so I'm stuck with this forever now. I know this doesn't matter at all but wow they completely ruined their aesthetic.

>>57675781
Thats a bretty good PSU. Overkill for an intel+nvidia but whatever

Is crossfire worth it?

I'm considering buying up two RX 480's today.

I have a 1080p 144hz freesync monitor, and I'd like to have a higher framerate in more games than I do now. Should I go for it? And should I get the cards in 4GB or 8GB?

>>57675781
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HgPkgL
thats a decent psu, but unless you intend to do a second 1080 in the future, you can do 650w easily and save a bit of cash, accounting for the possible overclock on the 6700k too

windows on a usb is the same as windows on a cd really, nothing different besides the physical media

make sure to use usb 3.0 on the motherboard though, 2.0 is slow of course but front panel 3.0 might be slow without installing mobo drivers first
that was just my personal experience with doing a bunch of system builds for office desktops where i work, halfway through i found that using mobo 3.0 was much faster than front io 3.0 because without the newest motherboard drivers installed it was running at 2.0 speeds

but thats just my personal experience, i presume it would vary by motherboard

honestly though, might as well go CD anyway, a disk drive is like 20$ and is pretty useful for a bunch of stuff still, no harm in going cd if its any cheaper or if you can get OEM copies for a bit less than the USB

>>57675659
newer architecture, cheaper price, less of a space heater

>>57675822
It's typically not worth it unless you have money to burn and want two top-tier cards to get more performance than is possible with a single card. Unfortunately AMD doesn't have their 490 out yet. Dual-card setups aren't supported by all games and a lot of games need to patch in support after launch. If you need to play AAA games on launch more than likely one card will be sitting there useless for a couple of months. There's also microstuttering issues in some games which is annoying. So yeah be aware of what you're in for, look up games you play frequently and see how well dual cards scale. I know Nvidia you can force some games to work with SLI in Nvidia Inspector, not sure if there's an AMD equivalent.

>>57675822
if youre gonna crossfire go 8gb, im not 100% sure on what its like with crossfireX, but i dont think vram stacks together
rx480's seem to scale well in crossfire according to user reviews, very noticeable performance gains

for the time being, i say go with one card, and if you feel like you can do better or if a single card isnt getting you a high enough framerate to fully utilize 144hz, get a second

but if one works fine, no need to crossfire

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>>57669061

>Purpose:

Play Titanfall 2, Overwatch and Battlefield 1 at a silky smooth 60+ FPS at 1080p on my Asus 144hz monitor.

>Budget:

See picture but I'd like to keep it at under $2,000.

>Country:

Americunt

I have no desire for 'Ultra' setting where each blade of grass has it's own realistic physics and shadowing, etc.

I want smooth as fuck on my fast as fuck ISP.

I'll be getting two SSD; one for my OS and the other for my vidya. At least 8 GB of the fastest ram possible; no desire for LEDs or Liquid Cooling.

I've built several RIGS but it's been 5 years and I'm a bit out of touch; any particular CPUs and GPUs you guys would recommend?

>>57675659
Are you using it for gaming? yes? Don't buy amd right now. Skylake beats the shit out of Amd for gaming. An i3-6100 beats a fx 8350. You're only sabotaging yourself. If you want amd so desperately, wait for zen. But in Novemer 2016, amd cpu's are horrible purchases. I'm speaking as somebody who owned an Fx 8350 overclocked to 4.4 for games. It sucked. Went 6600k at 4.1 never looked back.

>>57675705
Why not just buy her a cheap chromebook if that's all she's going to do with it?
Are you going to share it with her?

>>57675705
sounds good, but it's too expensive

she could probably get by with a chromebox

>>57669353
Had the same problem as you with my H100i v2 and 750D had to go without the washers, the rubber stands seem to be enough.

>>57675939
>>57675992
She doesn't want a laptop. I have my own PC but trying to get "Just enough" for someone else is tough. Chromebox is sounds great though

>>57676026
one issue might be that skype doesn't run on chromeos, you can probably find a similarly priced small windows box though

H-hi guys

Literally my first ever post on this autistic board. I wanna build a gaming PC and do it today during Black Friday if possible. Trouble is I'm sodding clueless about the whole process. Willing to spend £1,000 to £1,500 on everything including a monitor. What's the best site to build on? All I've heard is that Alienware is a meme.

Thanks lads

>>57675705
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pdfLwV
APU because it's better than the intel iGPU.

>>57676133
updated.

Even if you change processor and add GPU, it's still cheaper, lel.

>>57676157
fuck
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gzjMTH

>>57676121
>I want you to give me all the answers without me actually working for it
Spot the millennial
I'm assuming from the "sodding" you're a britbong, I really don't care enough to search how much stuff costs there in bongland but at that pricepoint I would recommend a GTX 1070 graphics card and an i5 6500 cpu, and a motherboard with the prefix z170-a, as well has 8gb of ram. Make sure everything is ATX form factor, and make sure your psu is rated to support whatever you end up on. Now go and use that searchbar at the top of your screen and trying thinking for yourself, desu.

Is there really much of a difference between the GTX 1070 and 1080 to justify the price difference? They seem to perform pretty similarly in the benchmarks I've seen.

>>57676164
>>57676133
good looking out. Much appreciated

>>57676194
Ones better for 4k resolutions than the other.

>>57676121
logicalincrements.com

alienware is shit, their margins for part value to resale value are extremely high, and if you were going to get a prebuilt, there are much better options where the margin is more like 100$ rather than 1000$. Bestbuy has something right now with an amd fx 8350, an rx 480, 8gb of ram and shit for like 600$, so a 100$ "im lazy" tax

building a pc is easy, things only fit one way in one slot, most things come with installation directions, the Internet is an endless well of information on this kind of shit
watch a Linus Tech Tips build log to see the entire process from start to finish in about 40 minutes
as far as monitors go, find a decent acer 1080p screen on newegg or something for 100-150$
at 1-1.5k eurobux though, you could probably do 1440p if you paired it with the right gpu

so with logicalincrements, pick something around 300 britbux cheaper than your budget allows for the whole build, so you can use that money for a good monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones, etc

pcpartpicker of course is a site that allows you to easily compatibility check and price check parts in a system
also, falcofag can you make your site less fucking bloated for gods sake, this is /g/, half of us are still using the pentium 3 architecture

>>57676204
It won't be doing 4k but it might be doing 3 monitors. Building a PC for my brother and he wants to use it primarily for flight simulars.

>>57676194
There's a difference of ~30% performance. You're better off crossfiring two 1070s for just over the price of a 1080 if all you're worried about is performance.

>>57676225
>Crossfiring two 1070s
what timeline are we in again, because if you're right, thats fucking awesome.

>>57676241
Wait, you can't crossfire 1070s? I know you cant do 1060s, but really? Looks like I was falling for the GeForce jew the entire time.
Also, we're in the timeline were trump won. praise kek.

>>57676248
1070 can SLI, yes

>>57676225
>crossfire
>Nvidia
Wrong multiverse, Mr. Spock.

>>57676248
They sell a special SLI bridge for it.

>>57676256
For how many shekels?

>>57676211
and just some general shit for pc building

unless you are overclocking, an aftermarket cooler is not 100% needed, performance gains will be there, but the cooler is designed to handle that processor at that clock speed anyway

dont skimp on the power supply, cheap power supplies cause housefires, rarely, but more often they kill components or damage them due to fluctuations in power output

read shitloads of user reviews, ask /g/, we're assholes but someone will give you consumer advice so long as youre in the right thread, just to make sure the parts youre picking are the ones best suited for you
example, dont pair an i7 6700k with a 750ti graphics card, thats retarded, it will work but god danm why
(shoutout to the anon who did this, and spent 200$ on a 750ti in the process)

take your time and do things right the first time, coming back after getting two billion post errors or failure to boot because something wasnt plugged in right or some shit is never fun

never forget about airflow and cooling
your average consumer desktop or laptop doesnt get that hot, hell, some laptops can reach 70c and the fan wont even kick on, enthusiast tier desktops are much different, they put out alot of heat, temperature greatly effects how well they perform, and keeping a system cool is always beneficial
as stated above, an aftermarket cooler isnt really a necessity at first, but an intake fan in the front and an exhaust fan in the back is a must just for the sake of keeping the inside of your pc from turning into an e-z bake oven