/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Just built my first build on Sunday. Cost about $640, took one of the ssd(s), the 1tb and 500gb hdds from my old pc. Thoughts?

>>57643861
Also should I keep using the stock CPU cooler or buy another one?

>>57643828
>Seagate "ship your files to Bermuda" Barracuda

For a dual channel motherboard, would there be any preformance difference between 32gb of 4x8gb vs 32gb of 2x16gb?

Are there any good vertically mounted CPU fans?

All of the recommended models seem to be horizontally mounted ones that jut out from the CPU and it rustles my aeshetic autism

>>57643932
There are models which can be mounted either way, like most Noctuas.

>>57643861
>1060 3GB
You done and cucked yourself. Good job.

>>57643869
You won't get more performance out of an aftermarket cooler with a CPU that can't be overclocked. What you do get is a quieter cooler.
Do you want a quieter machine ? If so, get an aftermarket cooler for your CPU.

>>57643828
Will an i5 4690 last me a long time over mt fx 8320?

>>57644030
My*

>>57644030
a 4690 would perform better in the long run than a 8320, but Intel might get serious with their future CPUs if Zen delivers.

>>57644030
yes.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4690-vs-AMD-FX-8320/2311vs1983

use that site.
answers a lot of questions I had.

Is an RX 480-4gb a huge upgrade from a gtx 960-4gb?

>>57643828
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zCpNgL
Building it for my little brother and me. He'll be gaming and shit, but I'll use it every now and then for solidworks and animation for a hobby. I'm thinking to get an atx mid tower instead and perhaps getting water cooling for the cpu later on.

>>57644271
oh my god.

Does nobody use fucking search engines for questions like that?

>"is x better than y?"
>"would a x perform better than z?"

Uh, see, lets google it!
OH HEY, WHADDYA KNOW, found a site here, found a site there, hmmm, think i'll use this one.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-950-vs-AMD-RX-480/3510vs3634

>>57644297
Wait, my bad.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-AMD-RX-480/3165vs3634

>>57643902
i dont think so but IIRC I have heard it is easier to OC with less memory modules

Maybe not exactly on topic but I'm planning a build and want an m.2 ssd. But I don't want to disable the sata express ports, so would a pcei to m2 adapter be worth it or do I suck it up and just use the mobo m.2?

bumping with http://pcpartpicker.com/list/q2TjNN

Is this too retarded for some heavier data/image processing and occasional gaming?

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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qjnMTH

r8

MSI GTX 970 gaming graphics card, should I get it or not /g/urus?

>>57645417
>Kepler
>current year

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rYWjNN

Some serious criticism of my terrible incompetence will be much appreciated.

Bare in mind the only thing I want to upgrade for the next 5 or 6 years is the GPU.

[spoiler]It is also a black and white theme build.[/spoiler]

>>57645560
Absolute autism - the build.

>>57643828
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9ytH8K
is there anywhere that I'm literally throwing away money? I don't want to have to update for another 5 years or so. For gayming for now but I may want to do other stuff with it in the future.

>>57644120
But that site says that the FX-8320 is 8% faster in the only relevant bench (multi-core speed).

>>57645572
>>57645560

If it makes it any better I'm building a PC for someone who knows dick-all about computers but wants a pretty build capable of playing all their games.

I've been out of the scene since I built my PC in 2009, but I recently upgraded my GPU, ram and stuck an SSD inside.

I feel like I forgot a bunch of important things though. I know the 6700 might be overkill; is it worth it to switch it out with a 6400 and throw in a 1080 instead? The answer seems obvious but I want to hear it from you guys first.

>>57645670
get a cheaper and smaller ssd and buy a hdd with the money
an i5-6500 or 6600k is more than enough for gaming
You forgot the power source
8gb of ram is enough, add more in a couple of years when the difference is meaningful
and don't buy meme light up ram
the mobo is a meme as well get a cheaper z170a
protip anything with the word 'gaming' in it is probably more expensive than it's worth

>>57645233
>buying Windows 7 Home Premium
Most people here will tell you to pirate Windows, but if you HAVE to buy it, at least buy professional so you can actually upgrade the RAM in the future.

>>57645233
pretty good apart from having two 1tb drives instead of 1 2tb one
Are you autistic or something?

>>57645720
I suppose you're right, don't know what I was thinking. Also, the power supply is from a previous build.

>>57645745
It's fine to buy meme shit when it's your money, but if it's for someone else then make sure you're getting the best bang for your buck lest they do some research and find out you're retarded
Make sure the psu is rated to what you need it to be rated to, and more if you plan on overclocking

>>57645745
Also, make sure to tell the guy you give it to to cycle the games he likes the most onto the ssd. Only the OS and the few game he plays the most should be on the ssd, and try to keep it as clean as possible, ssds are less reliable.

>>57645765
Well... the person I'm building it for is my girlfriend, its a Christmas present. I was tempted to spend extra just to make the thing look prettier. I wanted to make that shit look like a fucking spaceship for her, but hey, I guess the case is good enough.

I'm pretty sure she wants to hook it up to the TV now and then for some 4k gaming, I guess if I focus too much on the look of the PC its gonna either bleed me dry or its going to under perform.

>>57645845
You'll want a 1080 for 4k gaming mate.

>>57645868
Yeah I figured, with the money I save on not buying meme shit i should have enough.

>>57644667
bump

>>57646017
Get a 6700K and a smaller/cheaper PSU.

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I have a shitty fx6100 + hd6870, cant play shit on them.
Should i wait for kaby or buy a skylake right away on the black friday?

>>57645868
>>57645765
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TX3jNN

little better?

Not including the ssd/hdd.

Having a hard time choosing a z170 motherboard. Any recommendations? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LpN9tJ
Basically doing a big pc upgrade, re-using only my drives, and cpu cooler.

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i'm kind of on a budget but how's this look /g/? decent enough for modern gaming you think?

Are there any upcoming deals on 8tb HDDs this black friday?

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>>57643828
School (infosec), virtualization, and moderate gaming. Budget is around $1,000 but am fudging to $1,150-ish if need be. For what its worth I'm purchasing all from Amazon due to Prime and free shipping.

Do I need an i7, will hyperthreading and faster base core clock make a $100 difference? How about my storage, are they good choices? Regarding 1080p vs 1440p, what sort of performance differences should I expect with a 1060 3gb?

I'm looking to purchase it all today (Wednesday) and I'm pretty excited to get it all going.

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>>57646443
Pic related, whoops!

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http://pcpartpicker.com/user/chilltypist/saved/CPGqsY

>>57644475
Have you ever seen a SATA express drive in your life?

>>57646468
Go and watch your news oldfag

Hello! Is there any site that tells about power phases on graphics cards and motherboards? And ones that are good for OCing?

>>57646237
GA-Z170-UD3, Asus Z170-A, Asus Pro Gaming (actually good althoug it has a meme name tag)..

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cfCqBP

I jumped in for the sff meme. I had most of this stuff like the peripherals,ssd, and monitor already. Just bought the itx form factor stuff, 1080, psu really. Have $75 in statement credits and a $20 rebate for the mobo as well.

>>57646528
>dark rock tf
>not NH-L9i

>>57645554
sorry? I'm asking because I can get it for $120 used.

>>57646528
how the HELL did you get a GTX 1080 for $400?

>>57646625
Tell him you buy it for 100 cash.

>>57646525
Those are the 3 boards I've been looking at the most, I've seen some people say the pro gaming mobo only supports 2133, but newegg, and amazon seem to say differently. Anyone know anything about this?

How is this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/d3nm3F

>>57646352
if you don't plan on overclocking or upgrading to a K series processor then wasting money on a z 170 mobo aint wise boy

otherwise switch to a 6600k and its perfect or get another mobo

also I recommend getting 2x8gb , its pretty much the default ram size these days

>>57646724
>i can't read the manual
Go to Asus website, they should know...

>>57646768
get a 6600k, 6700 or 6700k and you're set

>>57646801
Thanks m8

>>57645730
>buying Windows 7 Home Premium

I'm not. I have a disc. Notice there's no price.

>>57645737
>Are you autistic or something

For whatever reason, I couldn't find the 2TB WD earlier.

Looking for a monitor (external monitor for my laptop lenovo Y50-70)

Used for:
Working (word/ browsing/ light tasks), Movie watching and Gaming

Budget
250 Dollars

Location
US

What I want
- IPS
- VESA
- 24 inch or 29 inch
- FULL HD
-min 60hz

Willing to up my budget a little if it is really worht it ( 1440p or G sync) but that out of my budget I think

I was thinking about this monitor
LG 29UM68-P 29" . 230$ on microcenter.

I've currently got a GTX 960 in my system and am looking at upgrading

I can get a 1060 for around 250 or a 1070 for around 400, would a 1060 be a big enough upgrade from the 960?

or should I spring for the 1070. I'm not interested in 4k gaming, just want something that will be solid for the next 5 or so years

>>57644297
>>57644341
HAHAHAHAHA NICE RANT BUDDY

browser on ssd? good/bad? read that it kills ssd quickly but I cant stand the sound of mine 3.5

>>57643828
Hello guys i am generally new to the pc building scene and the board in general, and I am keen in knowing more about PC building.. where do i start?

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Upgraded my graphics card to a GTX 1080 thanks to a pricing error at Best Buy, got it for $450. How did I do for the price?

>>57647713
860M/ 960M won't do 1440p or 144hz, just get a 24' IPS

i got banned like a stupid fuck so i couldnt post this earlier but http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKVzkT
stupid question that the stupid question thread didnt answer, this is my first computer im EVER going to have (grew up really poor) and was wondering about the OS. When i build it, get through the bios etc. and it goes to the desktop screen, is that when i put the OS disk in the drive? Im really fucking stupid when it comes to computers, thanks for all the help so far /g/ <3

>>57647883

You already know you did good.

Sorry for the faggot question but I already bought a 1070 and I am debating hopping on some of the other deals to build a mostly new PC.

I currently have a 3570K with 16gigs of 2133 CL10 ram on some mid range motherboard; would it actually be worth the cash to get a 1151 motherboard, a 6600K and some faster DDR4 ram? It's going to be ~$600 and that was more than the video card and I can't see it being THAT much of an improvement.

>>57647883
how do you guys manage to keep the insides of your PC dust free like this. holy shit its like brand new

>>57648184
https://www.amazon.com/Compressed-Air-Dusters/b?ie=UTF8&node=3012916011

Let's say I want 7 fans for my first build.
How would I do that?

>>57645659
Bump on this
Wake up americans

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I haven't upgraded in years. But I figure now is probably the time to. I want to play new games at 1080p with high-ultra settings. I know I'll need a new GPU thinking of the 1060 but I thought the 1070 would also be good. And I'll probably need a new motherboard to go with a new processor but I'm stumped on what to get. I also have no idea if I'll need a new power supply.

>>57647883
how is the psu? considering buying that exact model just wanted to know if its noisy or not

>>57645659
get cheaper RAM
>1k graphics card
nigger are you fucking retarded?
dont get an i7 if you are only doing vidya or whatnot

>>57643828
spend the extra $100 on a 1070. That, or save $50 and get a cheaper 1060.

Otherwise not a bad build at all

>>57648450
not that anon, but it does everything i need it to, pretty quiet, would recommend

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r8

>>57648474
>don't get an i7 if all you're doing is x
>don't get x if all you're doing is x
One of the worst memes on the board.

The reason you don't do X is because you don't have the fucking equipment to do it.

i7 has been the best thing I've ever experienced in the PC world. It's so much smoother when multi tasking and it doesn't shit itself when you try to process inages, videos, etc. Even in games it's a huge boon.

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Hmmmm....

>>57647713
I paid $265 for a 25" IPS 60Hz panel. Shop around, no reason to stick with 1080p if you can afford an upgrade.

>>57647758
You have a GTX 960 a 1 year old x60 series from Nivida, you ALREADY think you need an upgrade.

You want this upgrade to last you 5 years, and your first thought is to get the GTX 1060?

It's the same level as the GTX 960 just 1 year newer. It wont last you any longer than the 960 did.

Just picked up a meme 4k monitor and realized my old GPU can't handle it. Whats the cheapest GPU I can get that will handle it? I don't do anything graphics intensive, I just need it or muh productivity.

>>57648918
Whats your iGPU? Most modern iGPUs should be fine with 4k desktop use.

There is no need for a dGPU unless you're on an old as fuck platform. In which case you should probably just upgrade to skylake/kabylake and use the iGPU.

>>57648928

I was hoping you wouldn't say that. I'm on an old i5 2520. Any clue what the max resolution on that would be?

I didn't see a black Friday deals thread so I guess I'll put this here. Anyone have good deals on monitors, specifically those around 23" and 1080p?

I've already got an Asus VS239H-P and am looking into going for the triple monitor setup. I already have it at work and it's awesome.

And on a related vein, I've got a 970 I purchased just over a year ago. Why are they selling for more than I bought it back then right now?

Rate my build, it is what I'm running right now. I know I need a larger SSD which I'll be getting but does anyone see any areas for improvement? I'm doing sleeved cables next for sure so once that's all done, it'll be complete.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wh3Bhq

>>57646528
>1080
>400 $
What the fuck?

>>57649004
>>57648928

Sorry, it's actually an i5 2400. I got it mixed up with my laptop.

>>57649004
>i5 2520
I assume you mean i5-2500 or 2500k as the i5-2520 is a mobile CPU for laptops.

The maximum res from such an old iGPU is only 2560x1600

You need a haswell or newer iGPU for 60hz 4k. So from the last 3 generations 4xxx, 5xxx, 6xxx, or a new 7xxx CPU.

However, since you probably dont want to upgrade your platform just for this you could get away with getting an RX-460 or GTX 1050Ti for $120-160.

Either of those would provide excellent 4k desktop use.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJwpm8

Going to pull the trigger on this for black friday, mostly going to be rendering gaming n shit.

Any way to optimize this for extra performance, although I want to keep quality parts?

budget is 1000 dollars.

Also, m.2 or SATA SSD??

>>57643828
https://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=3505&gid2=2397&compare=geforce-gtx-1070-vs-radeon-r9-290-sapphire-tri-x-oc-edition-crossfire

Can someone exprain this? My old card can't be near a 1070. Maybe my i7 980x really is a huge bottleneck.

>>57649176
>1060
could you not stretch it to a 1070?

>>57649206
>i7 980x
Unless you've overclocked the fuck out of it, probably.

Single core performance from that generation is a good 40% slower than the current generation at the same clock speed.

>>57649176
Drop the i7 for the i5 and up yourself to a 1070.

>>57649214
I've tried to earlier.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6kn2bj

Not so sure about if I picked good subtitutions for the other parts i had to sacrafice.

>>57649176
What's the intended use? Because that's a lot of CPU for a lot less GPU.

>>57649244
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise but the Hyper 212 is fine.
I'm running one on a 2600K at 4.8Ghz, and it barely breaks 70C, though I do have 2 PWM fans on mine

>>57649250
I'm retarded, ignore the first part, apparently I can't read. Same advice, though.

>>57649244
>still has the i7

what's the point in the i7 if you don't have a decent build to surround it?

Just get the i5, buy some quality components and OC it. Don't build a bareknuckle i7 you can't afford to outfit properly.

>>57649229
So seeing this shit do you think I could just upgrade Mobo/ram/CPU and have myself some shit powerful enough for 60fps 1440p gay men?

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>>57649275
>>57649268
>>57649264
>>57649250
>>57649244
>>57649236
>>57649214

Alright, how about this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YjW6qk

Had to get rid of the SSD, but overall pretty much the same.

>>57649278
You'll be turning graphics settings down for 1440p, but you can still play every game out there, just not at high details.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1772

1440p ultra or high requires a 1070 or similar level GPU. The R9-290 is decent, but not really good enough for high detail settings at 1440p, even with a better CPU/MB

>>57649306
Looks good, but your first upgrade should be an SSD.

I'm this poster. >>57646768 Considering the advice of >>57646801 is this a good dealhttp://www.microcenter.com/product/451885/Core_i5-6600K_SkyLake_35GHz_1151_Boxed_Processor
Thanks.

>>57649306
Tank the CPU even further if you want, but definitely get an SSD. Maybe less RAM? How much rendering are you planning on doing?

>>57649336
Yes microcenter always has the best pricing for CPU/Motherboard bundles. This past week for blackfriday their CPU prices are even better than normal, which are already $40-50 cheaper than online.

If you have a microcenter nearby, you'd be an idiot to pay full price for ANY CPU. Ever.

>>57649355
No do NOT do this, tanking the CPU further removes the ability to OC, stay with the 6600k at a minimum.

You can always transfer your OS to an SSD in a month or two when you can buy one, an SSD is $50-100. CPUs cost several hundred to upgrade. If you have to get one or the other, get the CPU now.

>>57649322
My card has OC and tri-fans for that 2℅ boost, would that make a significant difference in these benches?

I was thinking of getting a 1070 laptop now that you can get 99wh battery and a bit more thin even with all that power, but now I may have the option of even keeping the 290 and replacing all else to stick to 1080p gaymen. Do you think a 1070 laptop playing at 1080p will be powerful for at least two more years?

>>57649355
>>57649334
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PyVH8K

is the 6500 a good cpu?

My friend says it should be slightly better than an i7 4770

>>57649378
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, ill probably do that.

I really do appreciate you all for the help, would of made some silly mistakes without you all.

>>57649378
Ever considered buying a model year older?

>>57649415
Why bother? The savings aren't great, maybe $50-75 total, but you're now stuck on a generation or two older platform with no real upgrade potential, not to mention lacking current standards like USB 3.1, USB type-C, DDR4, etc.

Should I pirate Windows 7 or Windows 10?

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Planning to build a VR-ready PC this week. Here's my initial parts selection. Budget is ~$2k.

http://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/vrguide
I took this and picked something between the Extreme and Hardcore levels to get the cost under $2k.
Note: I already have 2 1TB HDDs, so those are not included.

I've already found a few prices better than what PCPP found, so this build is probably about $100 cheaper than what is listed here.

Thanks in advance!

>>57649591
You can always buy a cheap key online

>>57643869
Stock cooler as you cant OC with H mobo. If you bought a Z170, you could've OC (YES, Skylake non-K can OC to 4.4 Ghz ez via BCLK). In that situation an aftermarket cooler would help quite a bit.

>>57649653
>1000w PSU
Drop that down to 600w, even dual GTX 1080 with a 10 core 6950x wouldn't use over 800w.

>2133MHz DDR4
Upgrade that to at least 3000MHz

Rest looks fine.

>>57649688
>Drop that down to 600w, even dual GTX 1080 with a 10 core 6950x wouldn't use over 800w.
Done. Went with EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

>Upgrade that to at least 3000MHz
That would be my mistake. Must've misclicked when picking the RAM. Now have Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

>>57649756
Get the G2 not the NEX. The NEX series is the bargain brand version of the GS. The G2 is better all around.

>>57649756
>EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W
Wouldn't be my first choice, but that should work.

is cryorig r1 ultimate best air cooler in both performance and looks?

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>>57649821
>>57649817
Changed to the
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Obviously open to further suggestions.

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>>57649013
Bump

>>57649653
Wait for the 1080Ti or get the 1070
You need a 1440p Gsync monitor too

>>57649591
I have 10 and it sucks, but for gaming it's what I'd get

>>57649392
i7 4770 is better that any i5

>>57644021
>You done and cucked yourself. Good job.
Ya ;just wanted to go and build might upgrade the card during tax season.

>>57649950
Not him but I agree, you need 10 for directx 12 and you could always run 7 in a vm.

>>57649950
Wait for the 1080Ti or get the 1070

Why?

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>from eu
>looking for new pieces for an upgrade
>make shopping list
>"wew this is expensive but it's alright i guess, black friday bla bla bla"
>come here
>everything is 30% cheaper because >USA

pic related i suppose

>>57650109
Because he's a waitfaggot. Just go with a 1080 and you'll be fine.

what's a non-shit CPU cooler that will not leak (i'm looking at you shitty corsair clcs), and will perform well with quiet edition radiator fans?

>>57650263
yeah dog bless eushit

t.eurohujer

I've had a Corsair CX600M PSU for 2 years and I plan on upgrading to a 1070 from my 760, should I spent the money on getting a better quality PSU as well? I've heard not so good things about the CX series.

>>57650263
You might want to get a new monitor, says that one's a negro, so probably open box or return.

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>>57650420

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This
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7HQf8
or two of these?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ygy9tJ
The first one is a single box that can run everything and has a much more powerful GPU, but the two smaller builds have higher clock frequencies and is slightly cheaper, although connecting them so that I can move VMs seamlessly from one to the other might be an issue.

I don't come to /g/ often, so pardon if I say something retarded.

My current PC is a prebuilt ASUS Desktop PC CM1745 Series.
Last year, I replaced the Radeon graphics card in it with an NVidia GTX950.

Would I be able to do the same with a CPU if I found one that was stronger than the current AMD A8-5500 APU processor but cheap enough to afford?
If so, any suggestions?

I need a stronger CPU so my 3d rendering doesn't take forever to do simple shit.

how is this build? im putting it together for someone who just wants a desktop for normie stuff and the occasional league,overwatch,rs

>>57649013
If you are okay with open box, Newegg has a discount code running around for 60% off open box items.

>>57650548
>3d rendering
The only upgrade available for that socket is the A10-6800k, quad core 4.1GHz

Yours is already a quad core 3.2GHz, so it's only going to give you a clockspeed increase of about 1GHz. which is something, still wont be anything significant for 3d rendering.

You really need a highly threaded 8 core FX series CPU which aren't available on the FM2 socket, or you need to upgrade to intel or wait for Zen to release and get a whole new motherboard, RAM, CPU.

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>>57650601
opps forgot pic

>>57650548
The a8-5500 is FM2 socket CPU, so you'd need a new motherboard as well if you want something significantly better. And there's no guarantee that a standard motherboard will fit in the case, because prebuilt.

>>57649043
Bumping for opinions.

>>57650617
I'd recommend a small SSD for boot, it's a quality of life thing, a computer without an SSD in 2016 is just not enjoyable to use for regular desktop tasks, if you have ever used an SSD system and try to use an HDD only system again it's pretty AIDS unless you're using a decent Linux or BSD or similar. But with windows, pure AIDS.

Also, 27" 1080p sucks, the pixel density is way too small, 80PPI. Most people are used to 90-110PPI.

>>57650616
>>57650641
Yeah, I was kinda afraid it'd be something like that.

So then my best option would really be to do a full on build or get some prebuilt intel machine then?

I assume it'd be cheaper to build my own since i got the graphics card already, right?
I assume I can just follow the stuff in the OP for that then?

>>57650667
You might consider looking at the dell outlet store at the XPS 8900 and 8910.

Might also have decent BF sales, so keep an eye out if you want something right now.

Otherwise, building your own will likely be cheaper.

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Is this card any good? how does it differ from the 470/480 Red Devil?

Does anyone have a budget gaming build atm for 1080p? For non GPU-intense games like Overwatch and Doter 2.

>>57650828
It's fine. The only difference in the Red devil is the aesthetics as well as the boost clock being slightly higher so it might be binned very slightly higher, but i doubt it. They're more or less the same.

Looking to upgrage cpu from an FX8320.

I want to get i5 6600k, even though I don't plan on overclocking (is it overkill?).

My main question is what mobo should I accompany it with? I really don't want to go over 100$. However if there is a reason that I should get a pricey mobo I can justify it.

>>57650903
If you're certain you're not going to overclock now or later, you'll get better price/performance out of 6500.

>>57650903
If the cheaper motherboards have the features you want and you don't plan on going overboard an OCIng or whatever, feel free to get whatever motherboard you want pretty much.

Most intel boards these days are solid. Stick to the regulars, Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, ASRock, etc.

>>57650109
1070 is a better value, $200 less and only ~20% worse at best (a 1070 OCs to a 1080s stock clock too)
The 1080ti will be an awesome value for the price, it'll still be fucking expensive ($800ish) but it IS a 4K gaming card and it's just as good as the $1200 Titan XP out now
I agree that the 1080 is just kinda in between resolutions and power, not good enough for 4K, but a 1070 is more than enough for 1440p

>>57650406
Had a CX550M for 6 months and it hasn't exploded yet

>>57651204
Also, a Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB

>>57650616
>>57650708
Okay, looking on Dell's site, I saw they had a black friday deal on a "New Tower XPS" for about $1000.
Is that the same as the XPS 8900/8910 or close to them? Just searching xps 8900 on the store site didn't give me it.

I'm gonna compare whatever I can get now to what I can build.
Looking at the processors by core.
What the hell is with these crazy price jumps?
Like, I get the 22 core shit being in the thousands, but why is the AMD 8 core stuff like $100-200 while the Intel ones are 1000+?

For my rendering shit, would I need whatever the intel ones provide over the AMD ones?

>>57651247
>For my rendering shit, would I need whatever the intel ones provide over the AMD ones?
AMD's old octocores(FX 83xx) have low IPC compared to Intel. An FX 8370 is about on par with a quadcore i7 in highly-threaded workloads.

>>57651247
Intel CPU cores are about twice as powerful as a single AMD. So a 4 core intel (i5 6600k for example) is about as powerful as an FX 8350 8 core from AMD in 3D rendering.

>>57651311
>quadcore i7
nope, the i7 beats the 8 core AMD, the quad core i5 without hyper threading is roughly equal to an 8 core AMD.

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Too poor to buy anything decent. Mostly buying this so I can upgrade it later (I'm currently on a shitty laptop)

The i7-970 is supposed to be a Xeon L5640

>>57651204
If you're getting a Z170 mobo and a K CPU, you might as well get fast ram

>>57651332
this, 3000MHz+

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Small build that can still do stuff, I guess?

>>57651356
8/10 would build for friends or family members.

>>57651356
I never got a t shirt with my 6600k...

>>57651356
1080p pantydropper

>>57651356
Consider Z170 MiTX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157650

Would allow for OCing if you wanted.

>>57651356
Looks good, might want a PCIe wifi card if that mobo doesn't have wifi. Most of the Z170 miniITX mobos have onboard wifi

>>57651330
Sucks, don't do it. Buy this https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ with half the RAM and without the graphics card and use the i3 6100 iGPU

>>57651356
If you want to overclock that, get a Z170 motherboard.
If not, then there's no need for the "K" CPU nor the 3000mhz ram (some non-Z170 motherboards support fast ram but not all)

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How shit is a fx 6300?

>>57651394
>mini ITX
>PCIe wifi card
No, either get a USB wifi dongle or a mPCIe if the motherboard has a mPCIe slot. ITX only has one PCIe slot

>>57651409
pretttty shit, i have an FX-6300 sitting on my desk as a paper weight, literally.

>>57651409
It's not bad for what it usually costs, provided you don't care too much about the single-core performance.

>>57651394
>Sucks, don't do it. Buy this https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ with half the RAM and without the graphics card and use the i3 6100 iGPU
Pretty sure the r7 240 is better than the 6100 iGPU and the L5640 is much better

>>57651326
For rendering etc it's close. 8350 is like a 3770

>>57651204
Get 3000MHz RAM
Get 240GB SSD

>>57650903
Keep the 8320 for now. OC if you can

>>57650838
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Jhyf7P
Drop to GTX 1050.

>>57650617
Swap to GTX 1050 or get the 4GB 460, in which case you're probably better off with the 1050Ti

>>57650263
>everything is 30% cheaper because >USA
Stay salty eurocucks

Get 3000MHz RAM

>>57651311
>>57651317
There's an AMD FX9590 on the site that's 8-core at around $200.

Do the newer octocores do any better?
I'm just not sure where I should be setting my benchmark for price to processing power for rendering.

I need the upgrade so I can render out stuff for my portfolio (like, animation and shit) at higher quality without waiting forever.
The stuff isn't even all that heavy, just the current AMD A8-5500 APU thing is taking like 2-4 minutes per frame for a really simple scene.
And that's with me not doing anything else on the computer while it's rendering.

>>57651409
For that price it's fine

>>57651452
The graphics card sucks too much to bother with. Just use iGPU until you can afford something better. Same with CPU. i3 6100 won't be that much behind the ancient Xeon

>>57651487
>AMD FX9590
Don't fucking do it. Too hot
Newegg has the 8350 with the Wraith cooler and DE:MD for $150

>>57651410
Ah, my bad. I figured that it would have one x4 PCIe slot

>>57651487
It's the same architecture, the 9000-series is just overclocked, overvolted and overpriced. You're better off getting a 8370(e) and overclocking it.

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So this is my build so far, asked some mates and they've led me in this direction. Its for vidya, what should I change?

>>57651487
its the same CPU that you have already just clocked so it uses 220w of power.

>>57651603
Get 3000MHz RAM

>>57651603
Get a cheap HDD too, games take up like 50GB each nowadays

>>57646352

That case sucks, you can do a lot better for 10-20 more.

Seagate has the highest drive failure rate. Get HGST.

Get a 256GB SSD now and get a 1tb storage drive when you have more money.

>>57651464
>Recommending a 1050
>Ever
Stop this

>>57651629
Any recommended sticks?

>>57650617

Terrible case. Spend more money on a better one. Get a Corsair 200 or something for a few dollars more.

Get an SSD.

Borrow a Prime account from a friend, you're wasting a TON of money on shipping.

>>57651603
fucking trash

>>57651646
>Seagate has the highest failure rate
Stop shilling, its WD with the highest failure rate

>>57651533
>Newegg has the 8350 with the Wraith cooler and DE:MD for $150

Aye, I see that offer.

I was mainly wondering if I should stick with the cheaper AMD 8-core or look for a comparable or better Intel one for a bit more cost.

There's a Intel Core i7-6800K for $380. It's a 6-core i7, so would it be much better than the 8-core FX, since the other anons said the quad-core i7s are comparable already?
Like, enough to warrant the cost of course.

Need help with building the cheapest but not completely slowass PC for office work.

>>57651669
They're all made in the same foundries, just make sure they're decent speed with non-shit timings.

DDR4 would be 3000MHz CL14 or CL15

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>>57651464
>Get 3000MHz RAM

to gain nothing performance-wise and spend 50€ more?

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>>57651689

Nice try, fuckface.

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Should I get a 1060, RX480 or something else?

I just need a small boost from my 970.
Also, I've got a X5650 in the mail.

>>57651692
>There's a Intel Core i7-6800K for $380
Motherboards that support the i7-6800K start at $400. Keep that at mind.

>>57651746
Ah, I was wondering about that weird socket label.

That's some fun bullshit.

So I guess the AMD one would be best, especially if it comes with a cooler, right?
Would the Wraith be enough or would I possibly need any additional coolers?
My GTX 950 already has a noisy ass fan, so I'm sure it's fine.

>>57651736
with DDR3 this was more or less true, with DDR4 however certain games are seeing very nice scaling with memory bandwidth.

>>57651746
>start at $400
lol?

I bought mine for $200.

>>57651692
Much better, yes. Enough to warrant the extra cost? Maybe. If you're looking for straight up best price/performance for 3d rendering and other things that can saturate 8+ threads, it's really hard to beat FX 83xx series CPUs short of trying to score a used Xeon + motherboard for cheap. But if you're willing to spend the money, 6800k (or 5820k, assuming you can get one for less - the jump from haswell-e to broadwell-e is pretty insignificant) is not a bad buy.

>>57651684
Constructive criticism please?

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>>57651768
If you live near microcenter you can get a 5820k (last generation but still within 5% of the 6800k), with a motherboard for about $500

A 6 core intel that can OC to 4.2GHz+ and a motherboard for $500.

This "starts at $400" bullshit is just not true.

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>>57651699
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VGXWBP

>>57651768
>Would the Wraith be enough or would I possibly need any additional coolers?
The wraith is pretty great for a stock cooler(though not as good as a decent aftermarket cooler, obviously). It should be sufficient unless you're planning to try and overclock the CPU as high as you can.

>>57651736
You gain ALMOST nothing performance wise and spend maybe $5 more
3000mhz ram is specifically memed because it's a great price/MHz, often as cheap as stock 2133mhz ram.
And it's your fault for choosing a motherboard that supports super crazy ram speeds anways

>>57651841
I assume those motherboards are decent then?
Can't tell the difference between the Asus X99-A and Asus X99-E.

Still, does seem like it could possibly help, and I'm getting a lot of this as christmas/graduation present (which I don't think my dad can afford, but he insists), so that seems like the better deal overall.

It'd need a separate cooler then, correct? Especially if I think of overclocking.
Are there any weird limitations on those as well, or would any cooler with good reviews/low price work?
Don't care too much on noise since my GPU is already fairly noisy.

>>57652035
Just make sure the cooler can be mounted on the 2011 socket. Most can but some smaller ones can't.

The CRYORIG R1 would allow you to OC to 4.2GHz or higher. Something cheaper would probably only allow ~3.8-4GHz OC.

>>57651774
The only benefit of DDr4 is that it can be clocked higher, and it is, up to 4366mhz sometimes.
At the exact same MHz, DDR4 does worse than DDR3.
I'd say it's worth stretching out your memory speeds if you have the motherboard to support it

>>57646443
>>57646454
Anyone?

when will we reach the clock singularity?
Will motherboards, CPUs, memory, GPU and storage all get linked together at 4GHz at some point?
Is there any advantage to a whole system running off a singular data cycle?

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>>57652035

If it's of any use, here's my 6800k build I recently bought.
Well minus the CPU, getting it at the end of this month.

Went through a lot of motherboards and noticed that in the end, there's really not that much of a difference between them.
So they're all more or less decent, just as long as you're not buying some gimped model that costs 100$ and has a high failure rate.
The one I have there had a nice amount of features, Wi-Fi, built in bluetooth, M.2 + U.2 connector, USB 3.1 type A + C
Overall pretty good mobo.

The Noctua cooler is on par with the higher end AIO liquid coolers, that's one option you could consider.
And from what I gather, it's practically inaudible even at higher fan speeds.

>>57652316
>So they're all more or less decent
That's the advantage of the HEDT intel motherboards, the price for entry is so high, that even the cheap motherboards are high quality.

>>57652316
>wifi/bluetooth
Easily made with a mPCIe card (I guarantee that's what the motherboard has plugged in too)
>USB 3.1 and C
All modern mobos have USB 3.1 headers, and USB C is a $40 PCIe card away
>M2
Cool if you need it, but PCIe adapters exist too
It's a great motherboard but it's not $320 because it's better than the other guys'

>>57651392
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157650
Well, I was trying to in under $900. But yeah, I'll think about it.

>>57651394
I don't use wifi, I use wired internet.

>>57652385
>(I guarantee that's what the motherboard has plugged in too)
Nope

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>>57652076
>>57652316
Aye, I think I'll be going with that, especially since Microcenter's giving the $30 off bundle deal.

So, moving on to memory.
The guide says that 16GB can be beneficial for rendering video. I assume that also applies to rendering in 3d programs?
Are the 32 or 64 GB ones not worth it? I see on that one build there's two 16 GB ones. Is that better/more cost/power efficient than getting one 32 GB Ram?

>>57652465
X99 actually uses quad channel memory controller, so you ideally want 4 DIMMs. So 4x4GB would give you 16GB.

More RAM is never bad, but it also doesn't make much sense to buy 32 or 64GB if you aren't going to use it.

Since your mothboard has 8 RAM slots, if you get 4x4GB now you can always get another 4x4GB later if you need it.

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rate and then hate
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tzPGnn

EVGA 450B or EVGA 500W?

>>57645668
The only relevant one is singlecore speed.

>>57652501
Alright then.
Since I'm already thinking about overclocking it possibly and have a cooler for it, I should be looking for a higher frequency 4x4GB RAM?

There seems to be a LOT of options on the 4x4GB, and the current motherboard I got goes up to 3333.
Is there any brand that generally has better quality or is it more of a "go for whichever is cheapest and what you're looking for" deal?

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>>57652385

Sure, it's not radically better and like I said, the differences are fairly minimal between these things anyways.
And of course all functions can be achieved with extra cards, but when you slap an additional 40$ to the entry price at +200$ you're not that much off in the end.


>>57652465

I actually got 2 x 16GB sticks for this, but that site didn't have the option.
If I could afford it at the moment, I'd throw 128GB into this fucker.
>I assume that also applies to rendering in 3d programs?
It's very much applies to 3D rendering. I'm going to get into it myself with that build.
Actually I'd say that if there's one really valid place to throw as much RAM as you can, it's these creative tools.
Also remember to get 3000Mhz or faster RAM.
It can really cut time from operations.

>>57652565
Maybe if the only thing you use your computer is for playing pre-2011 games.

>>57652599
3000MHz CL14 or 15 is a decent mix of latency and bandwidth.

>>57652565
Then buy a Pentium G3258 with a good cooler and OC it to 5 GHz instead.

Do parts usually come with all the screws/etc that I'll meed to install? The only thing I should need is a Phillips right?

Also, I can just create a USB drive with Windows and get a $28 key from Kingpin right?

1060 3gbs are good, right?

>>57652648
For 1080p 60hz sure

>>57652602
Alright, I'm trying to look somewhere in the middle with a 4 x 8.

What the hell is the difference between G.Skills Ripjaws V and G.Skills TridentZ?
They look to be the exact same stat wise on the part picker.

There's also a Corsiar Dominator Platinum that's a bit more expensive, but has one fewer CAS?

>>57652785

Not sure myself what the differences are, if there even are any.
At the moment the Trident Z 3200Mhz CL14 seems to be the fastest option out there, which is what I got.
Here are some benchmarks.
http://ram.userbenchmark.com/

>>57652785
>difference between G.Skills Ripjaws V and G.Skills TridentZ
Things you want to look at
>Voltage
1.2-1.35v
>CAS
between 14 and 16
>Frequency
3000MHz+

Besides that if they are different it is likely aesthetic or heatsink deisgn or similar differences.

>>57652665
Well that's swell then. As much as I want a 2k monitor, I'm not willing to shell out the amount of cash they go for right now. Maybe in a year or two once they start replacing 1080p.

Unless you know of any good deals on 1440p displays..

>>57652915
I got mine for $265. 1440p IPS.

Is it worth the 70 more dollars to get a 500GB SSD over a 250?

>>57651646
I'm looking at storage now and I assume seagate probably sucks from the surprisingly low price.

For the SSD, Microcenter is offering to bundle an Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5" Internal SSD with the CPU and motherboard I'm looking at.

Is that a decent SSD for the system?
I assume I'd also get some HGST HDD to go with it, right?

>>57652917
>22 Inches

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>>57643828
holy shit that build looks exactly like the one im going to build

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>>57653001
25 inches. 117 PPI.
two of em for ~$550. After taxes.

>>57652531
>MShIt

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Alright, where's the trick here?

Why are the 1TB HDD's all like $200+, but then there's these few in the middle that are sub $100?

Do they run like shit or something?
My current computer's got 917 GB of space, and I'm using most of it so I'd definately need at least a 1 TB hdd.

>>57653131
1TB are barely sold anymore. 2-4TB are standard.

5-10TB for mass storage.

>>57653131
SSD vs normal HDD

How much better is a SSD compared to a HDD? Fry's is selling a 1TB SSD for $129.

>>57652421
Are you sure? If not that sucks, no replaceable wifi and Bluetooth for when the $13 mPCIe module they shoved in there goes out

>>57653246
>1TB SSD
>129 buckaroos.
Hol-eee shit.
Take that with a grain of salt, and post manufacturer of SSD.

>How is it?
Windows boots up in less than 30 seconds.
Programs start up quite fast too.

>>57652602
>entry price X99 board
>$200
Of course RGB lighting and gaming aesthetics is required for "entry level" so I guess that's about right

>>57652602
X99 doesn't even support 3000mhz you ignorant meme-parrot

I'm looking at the following on sale and wondering how it compares:
http://www.frys.com/product/8858442?site=80premail112316

What I was originally going to buy:
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814487243&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0

The one at frys is on sale for $599, so I'm tempted to go with it. Thoughts?

>>57652623
No it isn't, it's as proportional to its latency as ANY other ddr4 ram
3000mhz is good because it's cheap, and technically better, not because it'll improve your performance noticeably, it's just technically better for the same price

>>57652629
That's some serious and expensive cooling but this is really a reasonable option, those competitively overclocked dual cores and single cores fucking wreck

>>57652873
Voltage is 1-1.20v and isn't changeable for DDR4
CAS latency always goes up with frequency and isn't necessarily a bad thing (higher frequency is better than lower CAS)
Frequency should be decided on what the motherboard supports (X99 doesn't support 3000mhz) and how much he's willing to spend on it, if he needs to save money and get 2133mhz, ram he could use that money better on nearly any other part

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>>57643828
This is basically what I want to build, but I am mulling over the case and GPU. I am strapped for cash and I don't play any high-end video games at the moment (Mostly playing Warcaft III, FFXIV, Stellaris, Minecraft) and I was wondering if I could cut some costs by just salvaging my GTX 750 Ti from my current rig. It's less than two years old, I bought it as a cheap replacement for old GPU that failed (I know there were better options, but it seemed reliable enough for what I wanted to do). I want to hold out on a new GPU for a while because I don't see myself playing graphic intensive games in the near future and I don't want to drop $$$ on a GTX 1060 if I won't have anything to feed it in the next year or so. The only major jump I could see occurring would be if I got into VR. At that point, I would just get a new card. My current rig is getting old (6 years with my Phenom II, it's a fucking champ) and I have had to replace the mobo/GPU and I fear the hard drive is going next, at which point it would be time to retire it.

This would be my first build. Thanks for any input.

>>57653331
>X99 doesn't even support 3000mhz you ignorant meme-parrot


Most X99 boards support 3200MHz, some support higher than that.

>>57653415
>and isn't changeable for DDR4
I'm running 1.35v DDR4 3200MHz, so you're wrong. And it's within XMP spec.

>>57653331

This board supports 3333Mhz+
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X99-GAMING/
Welcome to the future.

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>>57653415
>X99 doesn't support 3000mhz
wrong

>>57653428
But not 3000mhz, which is what he meme'd

>>57653448
... are you serious?

If they support 3200MHz, they also support 3000Mhz


retard

>>57653448
Are you mentally challenged?

>>57653442
>3200
Someone can't into addition
>>57653437
One of the biggest points of DDR4 is that overvolting is completely useless, you can reach nearly 5GHz ram on 1.2v
That was like a selling point of DDR4 when it came out

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Okay, this is what I've got so far.

Seems like it'll work out for a 3D rendering PC?
I'm worried about the $1200 price, but if it'll get the job done then I guess I can deal with it.
I mean, if there's ways to drastically cheapen it without drastically dropping it's ability to be my render buddy, then let me know.

Any tips on the case picking? Guides don't really mention anything about it.

>>57653458
Then try it
Let's see

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>>57653471
>That was like a selling point of DDR4 when it came out
Here's from the product info on the RAM just to prove it

>>57653458
On PCpartpicker a lot of Z170 motherboards support very high frequencies, but only a few ones, the one I'm looking at supports 3200 but doesn't mention 3000
Do I still buy the meme ram or just play it safe and get memeier ram?

>>57653484
well my motherboard specs page says

> Support eight DDR4 DIMMs 2133/2200*/2400*/2600*/2666*/2750*/3000*/3110 /3333*(OC)

So no need for me to verify for you by rebooting my machine. I'm running an offsite backup right now i'd prefer not to interrupt.

>>57653500
And where on this planet do you need more than the normal 1-1.20 volts to run DDR4 at any frequency?
This isn't DDR3 anymore, if you want to run 4366mhz ram then just run it, overvolting is literally pointless

>>57653484

Here you can see a guy do a 50 minute review of an x99 board with 3000mhz RAM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBa8UokMhLA

Don't dig that hole any deeper, you were simply wrong about X99 RAM support.

>>57649392
Your friend lied to you, and is a fucking idiot.

>>57653543
If it supports 3333mhz ram then it supports 3200mhz ram too right?
And surely you know how to check the ram speed without BIOS right? You're not a complete tech illiterate right?

>>57653509
Look up the specifications of the model you want on the manufacturer website, generally it will have more detailed information than PC part picker

>>57653545
>overvolting
Overvolting means you're running it above the rated voltage, those DDR4 sticks are rated for 1.35v normal operating voltage, so overvolting means going over 1.35v which I dont do.

>>57653559
Considering i'm running my RAM at 3200MHz i'd say it's safe to say it supports 3200MHz...

>>57653561
But DDR4 runs at 1.2v

>>57653559
>surely you know how to check the ram speed without BIOS right
already posted that for you
>>57653442

>>57653572
SOME DDR4 runs at 1.2v. That doesn't mean ALL DDR4 HAS to run at 1.2v.

>>57649884
Maybe more SSD space? Might as well, so that you can put every game you will ever desire, and the OS on it.

>>57653584
How can your motherboard tell?
That sounds like a dangerous double standard
I don't know anything about ram other than its pretty pointless to try and rate it, what could I gain going from 1033mhz sticks to 1500mhz sticks?

>>57653611
XMP profiles are there for a reason.

If you don't enable XMP the motherboard just runs the RAM as generic DDR4 (2133MHz CL15 1.2V)

However, the XMP profile will tell the motherboard what speed, CAS timings, and voltage to run the RAM at it's tested settings.

Because Intel X99 motherboards only support 2133MHz without overclocking, technically enabling the XMP profile is considered overclocking your RAM.

>>57653341
Asking once more for help

>>57649884
Why the Founders Edition? Do yourself a Favor and get the Zotac or MSI or Gigabyte ones.
Also throw a Samsung SSD of 500gigs or more in there.

>>57653697
It's better, founders editon cards are generic blower style coolers. Nothing special.

The other is an aftermarket card with better cooling.

>>57653711
>"generic" blower style coolers
>the only blower style cooler ever

Is the MSI GTX 1060 a good deal on Newegg?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127963

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Okay, so this is what I got for my 3D rendering computer.
Any other feedback on it? Anything I could change to maybe drop the price without hurting the performance much?

>>57653817
>$150 power supply
>800w, titanium
Get a 650w, gold, modular seasonic power supply for $100

>>57653817
Drop the PSU down to something more reasonable. Gold or platinum rated 500w is all you need.

Hell a 500w PSU would even be fine if you had a GTX 1080.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151122

>>57653849
Or get a 620w, bronze, modular seasonic power supply for $65
Either way you don't need 800w and unless your computer literally NEEDS to be on 24/7 you don't need titanium, nor platinum, nor gold for that matter (gold just happens to be not fucking expensive)

>>5764382
GTX1060 will bottleneck any CPU above i5 6500
PSU is also overdimensioned, since you wont be using SLI anytime soon there is no point going above 450W
A lot of people do this mistake, enjoy the higher electricity bill. The closer to your actual needed wattage, the more efficient your PSU.

>>57653817
You can get a windows CD key online for like $30-40 instead of buying it retail.

Then you just download the ISO from microsoft onto a computer, install it onto an 8GB+ USB drive, and then use it to install the OS onto your new PC.

Saves you $50.

>>57653871
He has a 150w CPU though, 500w is pushing it and I doubt you could find a better deal in the low watts than a 620w $65 seasonic PSU anyways

>>57653895
>>57643828

>>57653817
Power supply is retarded expensive for starters.

>>57653907
I'm running a GTX 5820k and a GTX 960 (almost identical setup to him)

and I can't even get it to draw over 400w when I try measuring from the wall.

>>57653896
Download the USB bootable first, then install it, then use it for a day or two, THEN buy a product key if you have to

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>>57653894
>>57653896
>>57653907
Top thing on the power supply list was a 650W with all that stuff for $59

>>57653907
200W for CPU(assuming he overclocks it, of course) 100W for the GPU(which is probably more than it needs) leaves 200W headroom. He doesn't really NEED more than 400W at most.

>>57653927
I believe it for sure, but there is nothing wrong with an overkill power supply if you can find it at a good price. And 500w gold PSU prices aren't really better than the $65 620w I mentioned

>>57653895
That's incorrect. Peak efficiency is usually somewhere around 50% the stated max value. Also keep in mind that all but the highest quality power supplies quite often only can stably deliver 80-90% their stated rating.

You make it sound like a higher capacity power supply will be drawing more power than what is requested, which is false. It will be less efficient if it's only under 20% load (instead of say 40% for a smaller PSU) but that would have to be an infinitesimal increase to wasted power thrown out as heat. Hardly enough to notice on an electricity bill lmao.

>>57653907
>>57653950
I think I got confused cause the thing said I was at 369 watts.
I assumed "several hundred higher" would be best in the 800 range.

If I only need around 650, would >>57653949 work?

>>57653959
>$65 620w
>bronze

No thanks senpai.

70% of the time my PC is idle or near idle, drawing under 120w. That means I want a unit with good efficiency at low load levels under 20% load. Bronze efficiency at that low will likely be under 75%.

>>57653949
It's exaggerating

my 5820k overclocked to 4.3GHz struggles to use more than 300w, i've never broken 500w, even stress testing.

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>>57653949
>all that stuff
Not the seasonic brand
>>57653950
If he gets a GPU that isn't trash he can expect another 100+ watts of usage, and nobody should fall for the "just get exactly barely enough" PSU meme
As long as he isn't spending absurd amounts of money on his PSU he's doing it right

>>57654006
He has a GTX 950 and doesn't seem like someone interested in high end gaming.

>>57645233

nice

>>57653966
This
Getting a PSU with 1w more capacity than PC part picker says you need really pisses /g/ off
>>57653988
The seasonic bronze ranks higher than the EVGA gold

>>57654020
But a X99 platform, 5820k and $250 of ram is necessary right

>>57645737
>Are you autistic or something?

Not him, but getting 2x1 ends up being almost $50 cheaper than buying 1x2.

>>57653988
Well wouldn't I want a bit more headroom in case if it's cheap enough in case I get another 4x8 processor in the future?

>>57654020
>>57654006
Yeah, this isn't really for PC gaming overall. I mean, the GTX 950 runs shit like Fallout enough for me.

I more need the upgrade to be able to render more than 6 seconds of crappy models in 6 hours (seriously, my last batch was that. 6 seconds took 6 hours for some bizarre reason, even with optimizing the scene)

>>57654040
Since he said it's for 3D rendering and he is coming from an A8 AMD APU i'd say it's gonna be a nice upgrade.

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This is retarded. Apparently corsair vengeance LP ddr3 2x4 version 5.20 and 5.21 aren't compatible it would seem. I didn't even notice a difference on the packages. All this time i was doing shit with only 8gb. Wat do?

>>57654052
The HEDT platform is restricted to basically 200-250w power draw, even with a high end 10 core CPU. add more RAM, even a high end GTX 1080. The most you will draw is around 600w.

Any good quality 500-600w PSU would be just fine for literally ANY single CPU and single GPU with ANY amount of RAM.


Get a 700w unit if you wan to be super safe, but it's overkill like fuck.

>>57654052
I'm still standing by my seasonic MK2 suggestion
If you can find a 500w (or 400w) PSU at a low enough price for you to consider it done, but with a potentially 200w CPU, and a potentially 200w GPU if you ever upgrade, you're gonna have to decide whether you'd rather have room to upgrade your parts, or save $10 and get "just barely enough" like /g/ always goes off about

>>57654029
>than the EVGA gold
Then its a good thing I linked him to a seasonic platinum?

>>57654078
>but it supports muh ram

>>57654029
>The seasonic bronze ranks higher than the EVGA gold
While I can't say I'm fond of EVGA(especially after their recent housefire GPUs), I'm pretty sure all their high-efficiency PSUs are manufactured by either Seasonic or Superflower, which are both top-tier manufacturers.

>>57654078
>aren't compatible
In what way? Mixing different RAM DIMMs isn't recommended, but it usually works fine. And if it doesn't work it will cause instability, not one of the kits to simply not show up.

>>57654029
>Getting a PSU with 1w more capacity than PC part picker says you need really pisses /g/ off
Strawman. But you don't want a 750W PSU for a 300W build

>>57654051

That's weird as fuck.

>>57654092
You linked a $120 500w PSU
I mentioned a $65 620w PSU

>>57654119
Not all of them but most of them yes
But you know seasonic makes more than one power supply right?

>>57654052

If it's for rendering, you might want to throw in a better GPU there.
3D rendering can make use of the GPU and it's hell of a lot faster than using the CPU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwk0DEKPc8

>>57654123
This, most of the day your computer is not running 100% full tilt 24/7. You aren't drawing 300W+ all day long, For MOST people, their regular desktop use will be using ~100w, sometimes more, sometimes less. But it would be very rare to be using 200w+ for a majority of your day.

>>57654129
You're correct, because for most of the time he is using his computer he will be at low load levels where bronze units are generally poor efficiency. Whereas the platinum units are very efficient at low load levels, and even MORE efficient at medium-high load levels when he is doing 3D rendering.

>>57654122
Tells me only 8gb can be used...

>>57654152
Depends entirely what he is doing, everyone assumed since he was talking about CPU rendering specifically he knew that was what he needed and or wanted.

>>57654123
And you don't want a 400w PSU for a computer that can quickly turn into 450w, when it only saves you $10 over the 600w
I agree that 650w is the sweet spot for any single CPU and GPU, but dropping down to 301w for a 300w build to save a few bucks is retarded, especially when you take so long to find the absolute best components you can

>>57654166
What tells you? The BIOS? Is it just not booting?

You literally arent describing anything here.

>>57654146
>But you know seasonic makes more than one power supply right?
That's why a gold-rated PSU manufactured by Seasonic would be preferable to a bronze-rated PSU manufactured by Seasonic, regardless of their branding.

Is it cheaper to buy this on Friday or just to build it myself?

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Panzer_VR_HTC_Vive_Edition

>>57654203
>b-b-but $65 620w BRONZEEEZEEZE!!

>>57654176
Nah nah mate computer is running fine.
In System (standard info about computer) it says 16gb (8gb can't be used).

>>57654225
take a picture or some shit nigga

>>57654157
>bronze minimum efficiency: 81%
>platinum minimum efficiency: 91%
>"low load level": 50w
>worst case scenario of power saved by spending double the money on a PSU: 5w
>time computer is on per day: 8 hours
>average price of electricity in US: 12¢ per kilowatt-hour
>money saved through running computer at worst efficiency 8 hours every day: $1.41 per year

>>57654203
Which model of seasonic is the EVGA G2? Also I'm referring to "rank" by tests done, not by the advertising

>>57654240
You're leaving out an important factor there buddy, that 81% efficiency number is ONLY required at 20% load levels, under 20% load there is no required efficiency so your low load scenario of 50w is below 20% of the total wattage of that 620w unit, without actually testing the unit you have no idea how efficient it would be at such a low level.

It could very easily be under 75%, I have seen some drop below 70% efficiency at ultra low load levels. Though I doubt a seasonic unit would be THAT bad.

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>>57654231
It's in swedish m80.
I have the same issue as this:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2211584/16gb-ram-half.html

>>57654290
Okay, let's say your computer runs at 10w, then the inefficiency is even greater but the wattage difference is even less and you'll have to spend another 10 years making up your $60-overpriced PSU in efficiency