/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

install gentoo

>>57508229
http://niceme.me

I'm using Arch Linux, if it matters.

>>57508313
Psst, hey HEY!

>newbie friendly, beginner distros, first timers
-Debian and its derivatives

>Professionals with intermediate Linux related skills
-Fedora, Source Mage, Slackware

>Expert hacking, top tier server usage, serious programming stuff
Arch, Gentoo

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>>57508320
>Arch
>expert

>>57508320
stop shilling the fedora meme
if fedora would disappear, nobody would miss it
prove me wrong
"professionals" lel

>>57508320
bait
>>57508337
>>57508347
fish

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>>57508347
Uh no? Here are the distros that doesn't make any difference and might as well disappear

>Slackware
>Debian
>Solus
>Gentoo
>Arch
>Void
>Alpine
>Bunsenlabs
>Hundred more distros that are not *buntu, SUSE or Fedora based

>>57508371
this meme is bad and you know it
why keep posting it, it's just illiterate cringe

>>57508379
>illiterate cringe
as opposed to what? literate cringe?
LMFAO

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>>57508379
>why keep posting it
Because I like your trears

>>57508371
Why is Debian a SJW distro again? They don't announce that shit like it's their selling point. it looks more like they made a page as a containment board to solve the problem. I wouldn't switch for such a petty reason, I've been running it for almost 10 years now.

>>57508428
SJWs have invaded debian a long time ago

>>57508428
>debian women project
>diversity statement on their introduction to debian page

>>57508447
>>57508428
they have invaded every single distro but they have started showing signs of their presence in debian which means it is an sjw distro (since they liked it very much)

>>57508469
>they have invaded every single distro
And left pretty soon as well whereas Debian is now an SJW hugbox

>>57508480
this

debian is actively pushing "diversity" and shit

>>57508447
Just wondering, what's your goal with forcing that "debian is sjw" meme?

>>57508480
i think they still have sleepers in most major distros but they aren't planning an offensive as of yet, well, according to my sources at least
but yeah, debian has already fallen and can never recover

>>57508488
>meme
It isn't
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2016/07/msg00028.html

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I was trying out manjaro with xfce in a VM today to see if I could get it to my liking; as I was considering putting it on a laptop. However this battery icon refuses to match the theme, everything else on the task bar seems to change except the network monitor and battery icon. How can I fix this?

>>57508505
if anyone can take debian seriously after reading this, you have some hard thinking to do
if that fails then a bullet to the head is the only solution

>>57508509
Xfce should have different power applets

>>57508505
It is, the whole community is full of mentally ill people, not only Debian. There are Fedora women, Arch women, Ubuntu women, whatever. Name a free software project and I show you sick people. It's just stupid to claim that only Debian is SJW. It's a small part of our community as a whole.

>>57508515
it has two; neither will change with any theme/icon package. Even the default ones that come preinstalled

install solus

>>57508527
Not even the one included in the indicator plugin? It must be a bug then.

Works fine here though.

>>57508539
No.

Install KDE Neon

>>57508525
t. debian sid user

>>57508525
he's not wrong
http://archwomen.org/

>>57508525
>>57508561
See >>57508480

>>57508229
>>57508230
>>57508238
>>57508260
>>57508286
>>57508313
>>57508320
>/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

holy shit I just installed solus and it's the best GNU plus Linux experience I've ever had
incredible boot times, polished and smooth desktop experience

>>57508577
to >>>/r/lgbt with your collectivist mindset
i am neither friendly nor a thread

>>57508590
>>>/r/linuxmemes/

>>57508590
I Solus tried last year before you started shilling last week.

It's still slow AND glitchy as fuck.

>>57508590
This.
I don't get why Solus is hated here.
It's the best distro for sure.

>holy shit I just installed solus and it's the best GNU plus Linux sdasjqwjel I've ever had
>incredible boot times, rqwerqweerqw and 43123fdse desktop sdasjqwjel

what?

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>>57508682

>>57508704
>early signs
LOL
it's already terminal here buddy and you are probably autistic as well if you felt the need to point out shit this obvious

>>57508704
what's even the point in spotting autism early
does it help?

>>57508735
probably putting you on some kind of meds early on to make you subservient to the [CENSORED]

>>57508735
yeah you can treat it if you start early

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>>57508539
>>57508662

Can someone explain the difference between linux and GNU?

I understand that the GNU software uses the linux kernal to run and is known as the 'user space'.

Is grep, cp and other basic terminal commands part of the user space or is that linux? What is NOT the user space?

>>57508814
What's the original image? It looks like fun.

>>57508823
>Anal insertion looks like fun

>>57508828
Yes, and it's got a timer. That means it's doing something? Is it medicine, what is it?

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Anybody used puppy linux or slax?
I need to use something that runs from USB in a live-session with persistence.

What would happen if I used too much RAM? will it create a swap file on the USB?

I just need it to compile some android games made in ren'py.

>>57508814
I tested Solus out today. The repos are absolutely barren, and the DE is depressingly uncustomizable. But it was lightning-fast, so if it weren't for those problems, I'd seriously consider using it.

>>57508818
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_space

how do I safely email rms? I assume that if I use my gmail account he will track me down and beat me up until I value my freedom and join the fsf which I do not want to do :(

>>57509064
1. email from a trowaway
2. license your email under gpl
3. pray

>>57509064
just killyourself now if you are even remotely serious

>>57509253
Was it deleted because it's manjaro?

>>57508509

Log out, log back in.

What is the linux alternative to eMule?

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>keep trying to copy/paste text from browser into vim for minutes, trying everything
>close vim
>look at hostname in prompt
>i was trying to copy to a remote computer over ssh

>>57509471
Is it just me or his finger is really going somewhere inside of the girl?

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Correct me if I'm wrong here:

The major differences between workstation distros are primarily desktop environment, package manager, what additional third-party software comes with it, and what versions of the linux kernel that the different releases run. Some especially autistic distros are generally more up-to-date and configurable. Some specialized distros have additional security features and what not.

That's it? You autists literally make a hobby out of arguing about desktop environments and package managers?

Is there any reason a professional not actively developing the linux kernel should ever use anything other than ubuntu/xubuntu/fedora? And even when picking between those, shouldn't this be a relatively unimportant, 30-minute decision that only marginally affects how you will actually use your system?

>>57509688

First of all, only retards argue about distributions.

The core principles for choosing a distribution are: release schedule, package manager and package philosophy (patching and licensing practices). According to that, there is only a handful of distributions to choose from. Steering a away from those is idiotic, because you're getting your water downstream, when it's already polluted and pissed in.

Also, don't use buzzphrases like "workstation" or "professional" in this case. No one will take you seriously.

>>57509444
amule

>>57509610

I read that's where the human vagina is.

>>57509753
Also, don't use buzzphrases like "buzzphrases " or "buzzwords" in this case. No one will take you seriously.

>>57509765
Epic reply right there

>>57509761
But should it be open like that?

>>57509765

>buzzword
>: an important-sounding usually technical word or phrase often of little meaning used chiefly to impress laymen
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buzzword

Workstation means nothing. Is it a station (computer) on which I do work? Basically, every computer ever. Professional? Look up what professional means and find a way to apply it to a distribution. If you bend the definition and shoehorn it into this context: how is Fedora "professional", when it's community ran?

>>57509813
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/workstation
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/workstation
I can also pull dictionary definitions at you. Delete your post.
>how is Fedora "professional", when it's community ran?
It could be ran by a "community" (nice word btw) of "professionals.

>>57508505
top kek
Ian should have taken down entire company with him

how would i see if i have xcomposite installed?

>>57509753
Then why is that all you people talk about?

Also workstation and professional are not buzzwords. In this case by workstation I mean non-server and non-niche (e.g. tails), which is an obvious and important distinction. And by professional I mean someone using linux for their job (e.g. developing software).

Not buzzwords, use cases.

install solus

So it has occurred to me that using Linux is basically like being a member of the communist party. Should I be seriously considering moving to BSD?

>>57510053
If you started equalizing software with political movements BSD should be a perfect OS for you.

>>57510062
Is there an Arch like BSD that is actually active (unlike PacBSD).

>>57510071
openbsd

>>57510102
Is this a ruse.

>>57509688
I like to think that most of us are here because we all like gnu/linux. Really though, I'm in denial. Most people are here to shill their own distros.

>>57510109
why would it be a ruse?
what qualifiies a distribution to be "arch like"?
Poor packaging standards? Having to manually install the fucking thing?

With BSD you have the latter for granted.
But BSD maintainers don't like "poor quality" in anything they do, so don't expect the full "arch like" experience.

>>57510131
>what qualifiies a distribution to be "arch like"?
Rolling release with something similar to the AUR available to expand the package pool. Obviously the more packages officially in the repo the better but you're never going to get them all.

>Poor packaging standards?
lel

>>57510143
The closest thing to rolling release on mainstream BSD is FreeBSD.

>Obviously the more packages officially in the repo the better but you're never going to get them all.
BSD = no software, unless you port it yourself.

If you seriously consider switching from Communist Linux to BSD you should accept this at this point.

>>57510158
>The closest thing to rolling release on mainstream BSD is FreeBSD.
So FreeBSD isn't similar to Debian in its ancient tier software then?

>BSD = no software, unless you port it yourself.
>If you seriously consider switching from Communist Linux to BSD you should accept this at this point.
That's fine, I don't know much about BSD yet except their license, I'm willing to learn. Does BSD use Xorg? Like how smoothly can you move to BSD or does comfort go out the window.

>>57510173
>Does BSD use Xorg?
Yes. Graphical environments like XFCE and KDE are supported on BSD.

>Like how smoothly can you move to BSD or does comfort go out the window.
Out of the window. First and foremost you should check whether it will work on your machine at all.
The hardware support for BSD platforms is extremely poor.

>>57510205
>Graphical environments like XFCE and KDE are supported on BSD.
i3?

>The hardware support for BSD platforms is extremely poor.
That's quite strange.

>>57510212
i3 should work.

>That's quite strange.
It's a niche platform from the family of niche platforms. What's strange about that?
The only vendor of BSD-based computers (Apple) deals with only a handful of hardware components.

>>57510053
How come? Have I become a member of the communist party without even knowing it? Please open my eyes.

>>57509831

Then everything is a professional distro. A baker, is a professional. If a baker contributes anything to a distribution, it's a professional distribution.

>>57509831

None of those workstation definitions apply to only certain distributions. They apply to all.

>>57510340
You should read the GPL.

>>57510015

>non-server
A server is any computer which is serving other computers things. If I install an FTP server on Tails, Tails is a server. You can install the same packages on a "server" distribution and "workstation" distributions.

>>57510340
He's meming about GPL not adhering to his own personal definition of "freedom", which is closer to the anarchist definiton of freedom rather than a libertarian one.

>>57508513
>Seconded.
>Thanks for bringing this up
Let me second this real quick with a compliment lol! Maybe she likes me in my daydream now! :)
>As the person responsible for this bug, sorry, and:
>Seconded.
Shame on you. You will not be forgiven.

One person offered a timid "I don't really see the point but I'm not a native speaker" objection.

One person said no. He was put in his place by
Sam:
>Did something change since 12 years ago, when you agreed to join a project that advocated gender-neutral language in its best practices and had a Debian Women initiative?
and Neil:
>Personally, I hope that it passes with a 100:1 margin, and encourage all voters to approve this GR with an overwhelming majority.

That one guy really violated their safe space

>>57510343
Pretty much. It wouldn't be wrong to say this. If you want to be more specific just add something else to professional to change the context. Or if you aren't a social retard just infer the context from where you heard it. Chances are if it's being discussed on /g/ it has something to do with technology. Then narrow it down by thread, like if it's being discussed in /fglt/ it probably has something to do with the subject matter of the thread.
These are just some general rules to follow though so don't expect 100% accuracy

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>not using the best GTK theme ever
What's your excuse?

https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1013798/

>>57510353
There are three versions of it if I'm not mistaken. Which one should I read and why should I even read it?
>>57510362
>rather than a libertarian one
There is no other definition which is logically consistent. Positivist "freedom" is bullshit.

>>57510395
GPL3 is the really fucked up one.

>>57510401
But Linux does not use the third version. I really want to know if I'm a communist part member since I will stop this very second if you can show this to be true.

>>57510395
>There are three versions of it if I'm not mistaken. Which one should I read and why should I even read it?
GPLv2 is the most logical one.

GPLv3 is just rms being butthurt about tivo, and all things considered, anti-tivoisation clause doesn't help free software thrive and be developed and only scares off potential users/developers/vendors.

>>57510414
Yes. I've heard of that as well. It doesn't surprise me that a retard like him thinks you're 'free" to do anything except when it doesn't fit into his ideology.
Linux isn't licensed under GPLv3 though. And I don't use a distro which advertises itself as GNU/ so that's fine as well.

>>57510441
You got me wrong. I agree with rms on his stance on tivoization, purposefuly locking out the user from his ability to modify the software in a non-critical application (like a fucking dvd player) is pure douchery.
If you want to prevent it - just make a cause in your warranty aggreement that says tampering with firmware/software violates the warranty agreement and be done with.

I just don't agree anti-tivoisation clause in GPLv3 helps anything. It does more bad than good.

>>57510489
>locking out the user from his ability to modify the software in a non-critical application (like a fucking dvd player) is pure douchery.
I agree. And you are free to not use hardware which does this. Doesn't mean that someone shouldn't be free to lock down software on arbitrary grounds as long as he isn't forcing you to use it.
>If you want to prevent it - just make a cause in your warranty aggreement that says tampering with firmware/software violates the warranty agreement and be done with.
Yeah, that would be a better way to achieve this.

>>57510441
>a retard like him
Well if RMS is a retard, what does that make you?
>you're 'free" to do anything except when it doesn't fit into his ideology.
Don't all humans do this, even you?
>I don't use a distro which advertises itself as GNU
I guess you do.

And just you know, he isn't a god, merely a saint in the church of emacs, so he can't force people do anything, just state his opinion/ideals.

>Linux isn't licensed under GPLv3 though.
That's a tricky one, since there are a lot of developers who would like to re-license it under v3, the undertaking would be huge and most see it as not worth it, even though they are for it. Linus sees v3 as political not pragmatic.

Also about GPL, v2 and v3 are not compatible, unless there is a "or later" cause used in v2, so it can be "upgraded" to v3. It's something to keep in mind when choosing a gpl version.

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post your Qt5 custom color schemes

How do I make a backup for my puppy install?
Just dd the whole usb?

>>57510687
>Well if RMS is a retard, what does that make you?
How is this even related? That retard's state of mind has no connection to me whatsoever.
If he suddenly got smarter it wouldn't change anything about me.
>Don't all humans do this, even you?
Nope. Even if that was the case it wouldn't make it acceptable.
>I guess you do.
Nope. Never said you can't use anything you like. It's just my personal choice to not use something. It has no effect on what you can do and I won't go around telling everyone not to use something I don't use myself like your cult leader does.

>since there are a lot of developers who would like to re-license it under v3,
But that doesn't matter in the scope of this discussion. I didn't state anything about the past or the future. I just said that it isn't licensed under v3 right now, which is true.

>>57510761
just copy the savefile

I just bought a new laptop and it inxi gives me this information:

Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GK107GLM [Quadro K2000M]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVE7 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0

Should I be using the propietary drivers? I don't so any gaming but the resolution seems a bit weird at the moment.

>>57510772
I don't mean the pupsave.sfs file.
I want to have modified version of puppy that I can go back to whenever I fuck up badly, instead of customizing it every time I start over.
Unless you know of a way to turn off persistence on USB, or how to create .sfs for the modified system.

>>57510373
enjoy your eye strain

>>57510797
Yeah, for Nvidia always go for proprietary drivers. The open-source ones are sub-par in quality.

If you ever get an AMD discrete GPU, just remember it's the other way around. The open ones work, the proprietary ones are garbage

>>57510976
Ok thanks, I'll give it a try then.

>>57510984
Bear in mind that installing proprietary drivers you risk your system not coming up after an update.

You're better off picking a distro with a release/update scheme that doesn't upgrade kernel version and Xorg version often.
Ubuntu LTS, openSUSE Leap or even Debian stable would all make a very sane choice.

CentOS fits this description as well but it's not a very desktop-friendly distribution and it has tiny repositories.

I would advice against Linux Mint (despite it being almost entirely Ubuntu LTS under the hood) due to security concerns.

is kodi good for ip tv

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>>57508218
Any Manjaro users here?
Is it a good distro?

I installed it only once and it was slow af.
Then I tried Antergos and it was much faster.

>>57511131
Define good?

>>57511164
http://dictionary.com/browse/good
http://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/good
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/good
http://thefreedictionary.com/good

>>57511131
it's shite

>>57511219
Then yes.

>>57511276
Define yes?

>>57511283
http://dictionary.com/browse/yes
http://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/yes
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/yes
http://thefreedictionary.com/yes

What distro do Navy SEALs use?

>>57511474
Slax

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Hey /g/,
What's the most modern and lightweight icon and gtk theme for everyday use?

>>57511519
adwaita

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How make task bar not shit

>inb4 sudo apt remove cinnamon

>>57511575
>monday november

I would change that date format.

>>57511575
sudo apt-get install lxde

or

sudo apt-get install xfce

>>57511519
Was this made by the creator of pepe

He's such of a faggot lmfao

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>>57511717
lol he's been posting fan edits for his "#savepepe" movement.

>>57511522
Yep. Mind you I barely use it since ranger and all.

I'm setting up gentoo on a thinkpad atm, and i can't seem to get the wifi card working. The Intel drivers are enabled as modules in the kernel and i installed the sys-kernel/linux-firmware package, but i can't load the iwlwifi driver (iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode specifically). modprobe iwlwifi yields: Module not found in /lib/modules/gentoo. The firmware file is located in /lib/firmware. Any ideas what i can do?

>>57511596
Just switched to xfce. Shortcuts to my screens on the taskbar by default? fucking sold m8. Ty

I really don't know what to pick.

I was so confident that I wanted Antegross

But now Debian seems cool

But then good old things like Ubuntu

What would get me the best battery life on a laptop?

>>57512192
gen2

>>57512192
Linux is shit, install a real OS. Install Windows 10

>>57512204
fucking this!
if your not poor buy a MacOS instead!

>>57512220
you mean if your a homosexual

>>57512192
elementryOS

>>57512252
that's shit faggotry

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>>57512272
that's genius

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>run the daily script which includes building a bunch of software
>have htop at times since RAM usage is getting out of hand
>suddenly can't move mouse, it goes into a complete halt while building dolphin-emu several times
>never had this happen before, even htop says the cores aren't being used to their full potential
Is my CPU dying? ;_;
It would be terrible if this was the case, I don't want to buy another quad core given how shitty Broadwell-E turned out and I really wanted to wait for Zen.

>>57512287
distro* name**?
* - https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/distro
** - http://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/name

>>57512287
well anon

if its dead then buy a cheap second hand cpu and wait until zen drops

When flagging packages out of date on Arch's website, what's the e-mail field used for?

>>57512634
to fill it with and e-mail address.

What software can I use to monitor fan speed or at least system temps on my comfy thinkpad?

>>57512968
lm-sensors

>>57512984
It's lm_sensors, fagget.

>>57509804
Don't babies come out from there? if so, then it should open even more

How do i enable "clean urls" in apache?
I have drupal i need to set that, but shit aint working, allowoverride all is enabled

>>57512984
Thanks!

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>yfw you find out you can set custom colors for qt5 fusion style

>>57513338

>tfw you're using the GTK2 style for Qt5 to make things look consistent, but your theme doesn't translate well to Qt

Feels bad, but apparently there will be a GTK3 platform theme that comes with Qt5.8. Is that true? Can someone confirm that?

Anyone running NixOS that can help me troubleshoot wireless issues on install?

>>57513449
qt hacker here, yeah that's correct

Whats the best distro for a Pentium 3 computer?

The latest Debian release doesnt support my ATI Rage anymore

>>57513478

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

regarding post five-seven-five-one-three-four-eight-seven
Gentoo Linux

>>57513487
You could maintain your old kernel but that's a lot of work. maybe CentOS will give it a year or two additionally. Another possibility would be to check if it works on *BSD.

>>57513513
Yeah, I was thinking of installing gentoo unironically

Never tried it, how is the package manager?

>>57513533
The latest kernel works fine, but the newer Xorg releases disable the hardware accel on my ATI Rage 128, making it unusable

>>57513546

Just buy a new, twice as good card for 10$.
Honestly, there's no reason to use that computer. It's not historic enough to be used as a novelty machine and not recent enough to be useful.

Is there any FOSS software that'll turn my rpi into something google home like?
Like, notifying me of stuff that happens and accepting voice commands.
A framework would be cool as well.

>>57513733
Like mycroft?

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So I've Installed Snort and there are some things that aren't working, like I'm pinging my vm from my host but Snort didn't create any log file in /var/snort/.

It creates the log if I run snort manually using pic related, but what I want is that Snort detects traffic and create the log file withouth me running it manually, how do I fix it?

>>57513449
https://blog.lxde.org/?p=1333

>>57513768
Apparantly, yes. Thank you anon.
Do you know if this shit is stable/useable?
Suprisingly, there isn't an aur package for it.

>>57513795
>image name
>leaking info about yourself especially in such a retarded manner
>>>/r/windows

>>57513861
>aur package
I thought it was just a place for pkgbuilds/buildscripts?
I am not sure, the development has been going at least a year now so i think it should be semi usable by now. There should be build instructions on their project page.

>>57513902
heh, it worked

>>57513449
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1639015#p1639015
if that helps

>>57513905
Yeah, the instructions are there and quite well documented, it's just that I've gotten used to absolutely everything having an AUR package.

>>57513832

But Fusion looks out of place on my desktop.

>>57513944

That sucks. Basically there is no widget theme which would utilize the GTK3, like there is for GTK2. There is only a platform plugin, which makes it use the GTK3 file-dialog and system icons.

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Will KDE run smoothly on Celeron CPU from 2012?
Or I need to look for something lighter?
Like distros similar to puppy linux?

>>57514234

If only there was a way for you to find out without much effort. Too bad most Linux distributions aren't gratis and you can't just download one and test if yourself on your hardware.

>>57514234
if its a single core or dual core with <2Ghz clock; unlikely with all kwin's effects.
plasma+openbox possibly

>>57513017
>tfw on 4.8.5
>tfw 4.9 any minute now
Freesync should work out of the box already, correct?

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Is there an easy way to check, in LMDE, which are the missing language packages? Pic related.

>switch to German: interface in German
>switch to Italian: interface mixes Italian and English

>>57514313
Thanks.
It's a single core with 1.5 GHz and 4 GB of DDR1 RAM.
I need to use many application that require kde dependencies.
And thought that using KDE would keep bloating to minimum.
>>57514298
Thank you for nothing you useless reptile.

>>57514346

Generate an Italian locale.
Download a language pack for Firefox.
Most packages come with all the translations available (Firefox being an exception, probably because it's so big, I guess). You just have to set your locale properly.

>>57514435
That wasn't a joke. And I wasn't insulting your people in case you're Italian, i was just pointing out the self-evident fact of italian being an inferior language

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>>57514450
>Generate an Italian locale.
"sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" shows all the intended locales as already generated, picture related.

About Firefox: I installed it after I took the pic, this one is easy enough. It doesn't fix MATE still though. (And I'm sure as fuck MATE has Italian packages.)

Mind you I'm trying to change the language _only for this user_, not for the whole system.

>>57514528

Post the output of "locale".

>>57514558

(my username)@turing ~ $ locale
LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TIME=it_IT.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="it_IT.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_NAME=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

>>57514591
Can you answer the question? I'm really interested

>>57514612
>>57514545
>>57514358
>>57514478
TL;DR: I'm learning Italian and German because I feel doing so. I like learning languages. Among all three (DE, IT and EN), it's the one I like the most, followed by German.

>>57514591

>LANGUAGE=
That might be it, but I doubt it, because it should inherit from LANG.
Kill the Mate panel and start it from your terminal with "LANGUAGE=it mate-panel" or however that panel's executable is named. See if it uses the Italian translation.
Also, try starting it with LANGUAGE=de, and see if everything is in German. If it is, that could mean that those specific strings haven't been translated into Italian yet. Check the Italian translation files in the source to verify it.

>>57514686
LANG, not LANGUAGE

>>57514686

>German
Actually, don't do German, because you already tried it and it works. Try Spanish instead.

>>57514698

Actually, LANGUAGE has priority.
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Locale-Environment-Variables.html

>>57514710
So it must not be set.

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>>57513985
>But Fusion looks out of place on my desktop.

>>57514686
The executable is mate-panel; I tried both LANG and LANGUAGE, no dice.

And I don't think there are untranslated strings into Italian, since the lead dev (stefano-k) is Italian.

But hey, this already helped a lot, thank you.

>>57514234
>smoothly
idk
last i checked kde it crashed a lot
it may be better now

and yes you cpu can run it

>>57514777
>>>/pol/

>>57514686
I think I'll try the Windows way.
(Uninstall anything Italian-related, reinstall it.)

>>57514835
>>>/lgbt/

>>57514840
>not using the usb-stick-packaged-with-a-live-gnu-plus-linux-distribution way

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how is the app called that displays the linux distro logo (i'm on arch if it matters)

>>57511226
>it's shite

why?

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>>57514777
>Hazlitt

>>57514949
archey

>>57514949

 yaourt -S neofetch 

thanks for the konata

>>57514949
its an extension of pacman.
summon it by using

sudo foxacid --trace -t 127.0.0.1 -route nsa.gov

>>57514949
cowsay -f tux $(uname -rms)

>>57514962
don't use this
it can break your system if your using arch

>>57515028
nice b8 faggot.
Are you going to tell him to install solus also?

>>57515047
>solus
no. I do not recommend bad distrobutions to my friends here

>>57514962
>yaourt

I have a main Manjaro install, secondary Windows and now I installed third system (Ubuntu 16.04)
I did the install with debootstrap but skipped the grub part because I want to use only the Manjaro's /boot partition. Now when I run os-prober it finds Ubuntu install and when I run update-grub (or grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg) from Manjaro it also shows it found Ubuntu but does not create a menu entry.

Do I have to set up grub in ubuntu to boot it? Ubuntu's /boot is empty (no vmlinuz or initramfs or grub/) If so, how can I do it without touching anything outside of Ubuntu's install and while still using grub configured in manjaro.

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just installed my first arch with i3
the basic system font is not showing correctly.
i changed it in the i3 config file and for gnome terminal but there are still places where it shows.

Any of you know how to repair this?

>>57515150
>I have a main Manjaro install
stopped reading there

>>57515225
install solus

>>57515225
>Any of you know how to repair this?
stopped reading there

>>57515225
how about showing your i3config? didn't think of that one buddy?
also the i3 config has no say in what fonts gtk applications use

>>57515237
I know following more than half a sentence may be a little to much for some, but please stop wasting my bandwidth with these shit posts.
I expect a payment of 1000$ to [email protected] paypal account in the next 7 days. As a recompensation for wasting my time reading your post and replying.

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>>57515225
They know you know, run

>>57515225
did you at least install ttf-dejavu

add bohomil's infinality repo and do pacman -S infinality-bundle ibfonts-meta-base

>>57515331
ttf-dejavu worked
thankyou very much

I did not take the time to read doccumentation on graphical interfaces because I was eager to get ris of the command line.

I was wrong

>>57515225
This actually happened to me recently when I installed on my laptops, but hadn't happened months earlier on my PC. I can't remember what I did but I fixed it somehow. I think I just kept installing my packages as I was going to anyway while working around the font issue and eventually I got the fonts through dependencies.

>>57515150
>nvm fixed it, pm me

So turns out I didn't install linux because I though linux-base was standard kernel package for this version, I just had to install a linux image and apt automatically run hooks to generate vmlinuz and initrd. Man, ubuntu package system is convoluted af

>>57515303
My lawyers will contact you shortly.

Just installed Lubuntu, any recommendations for making LXDE look nicer?

Appreciate you guys

>>57515225

i3's config file affects i3 only.
Setting it in GNOME terminal affects GNOME terminal only.
Set it globabally for GTK programs. Make Qt programs inherit those settings (they do by default).

Only do this >>57515331 if you're an idiot. You'll come back later when you get issues like the last guy who installed everything from the AUR.

>>57515638
this.
post config

>>57515638
Yes, use lxappearance

>>57515607
Define Lubuntu, making, look, nicer

>>57515638
>Only do this >>57515331 (You) if you're an idiot.
>t.idiot

Same as >>57514840
I did remove all Italian-related packages... and installed them again. And the MATE menu is still in English. (Firefox is fixed, at least.)

Then I decided to test it with Spanish, it worked flawlessly. It looks like an issue with *Italian* locales, not all locales.

>>57515638
>installed everything from the AUR.
>bohomil's repo is AUR

why are people using ack / ag instead of grep?

>>57516044

It doesn't matter if it's coming from an unofficial repository or simple package. If it replaces core packages, it can and will mess things up if you're not careful.

>>57516396
>arch user
>having foresight
>being careful
hehehehe

>>57516396
>it can and will
9 year aur user here.
No breakage
Still running same install from the start.
Minus systemd hostile takeover in '12 nothing has happened

I was told there would be woman in Linux.
Instead I have this thinkpad crying for the lord out it's fans a foot behind my head.

I know you're in this thread faggot baby powder your shoes jfc

>>57517080
stockholm syndrome?

>>57517080
One day you know to read source code and realize why blindly installing code by some random literally who from github isn't a good idea. That's what the AUR is.

>>57517657
>One day you know to read source code
don't think so. he'll have to learn the hard way

>>57517657
You just rely on other people to tell you what you want to hear, just like with any other software. Don't act like you audit it yourself

>>57517690
not that guy, but i actually do
and even if you don't the aur is a lot more insecure than the official repos

>>57517759
It wouldnt be on aur if it was in the repos :^)

I dont blindly install shit,its a convenience

Post your package list and tell me you have PERSONALLY audited every package on your system. You cant and wont cause you're full of shit

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jesus fucking christ what monogloid designed CUPS

So how to deal with this:

> copy content
> close program
> copied content is gone

Why is this even a thing.

>>57517824
Can you give an example

>>57517834
> copy content
> close program
> copied content is gone

>>57517786
exactly. which is why it is shit. you could at least keep it to a minimum and audit a few packages but it seems like you aren't even capable of that

did you at least take a quick glance at the source? if not, you are blindly installing stuff

i do though. i have a very small amount of packages installed. it's not very hard when you don't suffer from mental retardation and don't use arch as a result of it

>>57517834
Vim for instance, when I set clipboard=unnamedplus and yank shit, I can paste it into Firefox, but when I close vim, the copied content is gone. Happened also in some python programs before. Doesn't happen with all programs tho.

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>>57517854
Did you audit the kernel?
That would be the biggest single piece of software you need to audit.
Since you say you audit everything, this would be the largest culprit,oh wait, you just rely on other people to do it for you :^)

Why are you using un-audited software this important to the system?

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>>57517824
>>57517846
>>57517864
do you guys have synchronization enabled on a decent clipboard manager?

>>57517900
Why do i need a program to copy paste?
Thats asinine

>>57517912
well ,okay then.

>>57517897
yup. audited it myself.
yeah. i know. it's actually not that big when you remove everything unnecessary
nope. i'm not other people.

i'm not though.

>>57517864
common problem with programs that don't follow the freedesktop specifications
install a clipboard manager

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>>57517957
Sure thing

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>>57517978
next time write your "code" to account for multiple possible outcomes
its simply moronic to write a "witty" response that can be countered by a single word. and i didn't even have to lie

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>>57518024
The fuck you even on about nigga?

>>57518043
He got BTFO a while ago, he's only rusing you

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>>57518043
about your inability to predict the possibility of a yes or a no aka 2 outcomes
seems like your only capable of predicting 1 outcome. and you picked the wrong one
>>57518065
fag who can't audit even the most simple shit detected
lel

>>57517912
>Why do i need a program to copy paste?
How are software clipboards usually implemented, magic?

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>>57518088

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>>57518088
>fag who can't audit even the most simple shit
>kernel
>simple

>>57518104
X11

>>57518105
why would you wish someone you don't even know suicide?
what if i was actually mentally unstable and killed myself. you would be complicit. don't you have any compassion for other people who haven't done anything bad to you?
>>57518110
but i never said it was simple. i was talking about the shitty aur package from before which is pretty much as simple as it gets really
but the poster >>57518065 is obviously a fag who could not do that [audit a simple package (not a kernel)]if his life depended on it, lol

>>57518110
yes simple. slows as fuck though

make allyesconfig

>>57518142
this! epic method for hackers :)

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>>57518151
my favorite

>>57517792
kek print your shit with gmail instead

What does 'Aborted' mean when I get it as an error and how do I debug it further? I'm trying to start a Unity game and it just shits out after 1s and I don't know why

>>57518334
>Aborted
>shits out
nice stealthpost there bruh

>>57518354
what

Completely new to Linux here, interested in getting started on Ubuntu. I'm on a tight budget so I'd like to get a Chromebook and run it on that. Any recommendations for a good chromebook for it? Preferably one with upgradeable storage.

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how good is kde at gauging battery time?

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I wanted to try linux mint, should i go cinnamon or mate? Does it matter? Why?

>>57518599
Doesn't matter

>>57517792
Apple

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is Linux from Scratch exepted in /g/ ? Or do i need to install Gentoo ? is it ok to have lfs with compability to gentoo ?
How much compability to gentoo do i need to be accepted ? is slackware ok ?

How good is Linux with Kaby Lake CPUs? I remember reading that either Poettering or some kernel developer complained about Skylake power states being extremely difficult to implement.

>>57518671
Lol. Slackware is actually neato.

>>57518671
>gentoo
>LFS
>Slackware
We all use RHEL now

>>57518671
LFS sounds fun on paper but it's actually just a chore
you'll just do some mindless menial work for 6 hours and then get an useless system
also get owned by exploits because keeping shit updated without package managers is a PITA

just get a proper educational distro for fun and a proper real distro for actual work

I recommend aboriginal instead
>Aboriginal Linux is designed to document how to bootstrap minimal Linux development environments for a new target.
https://github.com/landley/aboriginal

>>57518800
>>57518671

This. LFS is excellent if you wanna be in kernel dev etc, and if you're into tight control of system resources, but if you value security at all you're gonna have a rough go of it.

>>57518599
Don't use Mint. Use Ubuntu.

>>57518800
>>57518847
Couldn't you write scripts to check for updates or is it one of those things that you might as well just switch to a distro with a package manager.

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If Arch is meant to be simple, why doesn't it have a simple installer?

>>57518599
Try both DEs and see what you like. Personally, I prefer MATE.

Cinnamon just werks and is pretty nice, but it's not super-customizable compared to MATE.

>>57519008
it helps keeping kids out of arch

>>57518919
The latter. It's possible, but it's hard to automate, it's hard to manage dependencies, heck it's hard to even find out about the updates sometimes. Consider that even a very barebones desktop has maybe 200 packages (incl. 100+ libraries). And god forbid you have a libc update, requiring you to go rebuild everything and pray that nothing breaks. All that effort for a solved problem. It's no wonder most small distros stay compatible with upstream whenever possible. Package repositories are a giant time sink.

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I tried to fall for the >Break out of the botnet meme but I can't.
I installed pass and gpg
if I run

$ pass init

it tells me that I should be running gpg-agent, I don't know where to know from here pls help

Will I get noticeably better performance if I compile firefox instead of installing form the repos?

>>57519123
no

>>57519107
...then run gpg-agent?
no seriously it's like the first thing in the manpage

man gpg-agent

>>57519143
I already did that and I get the same thing

>>57519107
>I don't know where to know from here pls help
I meant
I don't know where to GO from here pls help
fuck

>>57508847
Use Knoppix

Write a script to display the time every 15 seconds. Read the date man page and display the time, using the %r field descriptor. Clear the window (using the clear command) each time before you display the time.

>>57519123
5%

>>57519178
well then i dunno
did you remember to create a key pair?

gpg --gen-key

google says that pass init takes a key id as an argument

New thread, now with more dubs:

>>57519288

>>57519035
I tried Cinnamon and I'm okay with it, but I'm gonna try MATE as well.
>>57518901
>Don't use Mint. Use Ubuntu.
Why? Everybody on this board suggest Mint for people who never used linux.
Isn't Mint Ubuntu-based? How big is the difference anyway?

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>>57519567
>Why? Everybody on this board suggest Mint
People who are new do it, because they don't know it better.

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>>57508218

>>57519934
remove your dirty ass from this couch. i declare it mine by divine right