/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>57492692
I want that keyboard so bad it hurts.

>>57492713
>not ortholinear

Into the trash it goes.

Can we get a guide on how to build keyboards?

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good night /mkg/

>>57492728
>buy keyboard parts
>put switches on PCB
>solder the Switches
>put PCB in case

Its not that hard anon and there are plenty of videos teaching you how to solder

>>57492728
1) Learn how to solder.
2) ????
3) Profit!

>>57492746
>>57492748
So this is basically it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZRVpvUUUY
>inb4 didn't watch whole video but says yes

>>57492729
good morning

t. earlybird eurofag

>>57492809
>not browsing /g/ from Trumpland

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>>57492729
It's 5 am here I'll see you niggas tomorrow.
Good night

>>57492813
I came here legally!

>>57492781
soldering everything is the hardest part.

>>57492829
What makes it the hardest part?

>>57492854
everything else is just legos anon

>>57492829
>>57492865
Not >>57492854
but how do you get the awesome parts in the OP's picture? I want exactly that board. It would fit my theme perfectly. I've never seen a board with leds in the case like that, and the blue sheet ontop of the case looks amazing too.

god i love that thing so much

>>57492888
Not this guy but for this guy and me (>>57492854)
https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brownfox-step-by-step-t6050.html

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>>57492888
nice trips. Just buy a keyboard kit like pic related, which is a RS 68

https://www.originativeco.com/products/red-scarf?variant=21535033797

>>57492923
I am interested in custom keyboards for their layout.
If I want a generic small keyboard I always have my HHKB JP with its mislabeled keycaps.

>>57492934
that keyboard in the OP is just a modified Leopold

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Been lurking a while and I've decided on getting a filco ninja majestouch-2 tkl

However I'm still undecided between red or brown switches. Are browns detrimental when gaming?

is it cheaper to build my own or buy an already built one?

>>57492958
I have a Topre but don't have an issue with the tactile bump.
If you're trying to double or triple tap linear *might* be better but imo it's unimportant.
I have a brown switch next to me and it's kind of gritty but when gaming I wouldn't notice it.
>>57492967
Probably more expensive to build one
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-KU-0833-Wired-Keyboard/dp/B005EOWBHC
Now, /g/, teach me how to build one.

>>57492967
buying a prebuilt one is much cheaper

https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Water-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2

>>57492923
>https://www.originativeco.com/products/red-scarf?variant=21535033797
Ordering one. This is going to be my third $100+ keyboard. What the fuck am I doing

>>57492990
Losing control of your life.

>>57492990
>**Keycaps not included
What will the keycaps be?

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>>57492980
>Now, /g/, teach me how to build one.
you can buy keyboard kits and assemble the thing your self like pic related.

If you want however you can buy the parts individually like a gh60 PCB and plate, then use whatever cherry style switches you want and build a custom case for the whole thing.

Or you can build an HHKB with alps switches instead:
http://imgur.com/a/Y0foU

>>57493000
Haven't decided. I want white caps with blue print and blue modifiers.

>>57493035
Where do you buy the parts for that linked keyboard?
I like that layout.
>Or you can build an HHKB with alps switches instead
I like the soft bottoming out of my HHKB that can't be matched with o-rings.

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threadly reminder that the best keyboard ever made uses rubber dome.

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>>57493068
that keyboard is a Duck Lightsaver v2

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>>57493096
why does that keyboard have so little keys

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>>57493119
why does that keyboard have so little keys
>>57493100
Any place to buy the kit apart from groupbuys?

>>57493119
they literally have the same number of keys. you can't tell just by looking at them? I feel sorry for small-minders.
>no on-board macro/remapping abilities
smdh nigga

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>>57493135
Pretty much every custom keyboard is sold in group buys. Some drop more often then others, but if you want to keep track then bookmark massdrop and geekhack's list of ongoing group buys

>>57493161
>they literally have the same number of keys. you can't tell just by looking at them? I feel sorry for small-minders.
It actually has one more key and that was the joke

>>57493182
both have 124 keys. you can't tell just by looking at them? I feel sorry for you.

>>57493035
>alps switches
Disgusting.

>>57493194
no it has 125 keys
http://www.geocities.jp/kenjin_keyboard/3479JA1.htm

>>57493218
>>57493194

shit wrong link
http://web.archive.org/web/20070813180056/http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/vine/keyboard/3479ja4.htm

>>57493218
use your small-mindey multiplication table tricks and count, since you can't tell in under a second from simple observation that you're looking at a 124 key keyboard.

>>57493195
t. pleb

>>57493166
>Pretty much every custom keyboard is sold in group buys.
Didn't know that as I haven't been looking to buy a new board for a few years.
I'll look at Massdrop but I should get a geekhack account.
I really don't like logging into forums :(

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>>57493242
I messed up the joke. The ANSI one has 125 keys
I really need to rename these images

>>57493269
you don't need to login just bookmark this page and click on the group buy that interests you and fill out the google forum , or go to the special website they made

geekhack org/index.php?topic=57761.0

Thoughts?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/filco/kobo.php
also good night /mkg/

Trying to decide between a Poker 3 or Tada68, any suggestions?

>>57493742
If only for the dedicated arrow keys, get the tada.

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>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/xmit-hall-effect-mechanical-keyboard

Fucking magnets

>>57493873
Whoa that's an interesting keyboard

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I've got a infinity keyboard.

I'm kind of use to hhkb arrows setup, plus I've got special arrow key layer on right shft, alt, win, crtl, if I'm feeling lazy.

I feel like getting another board that has dedicated arrow keys like the rs68/whitefox/tada. I also already have a phantom tkl as well so it's absolutely unnecessary.

call me a nigger and make me feel ashamed of my vapid materialism.

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>>57493873
>Hall effect keyboards that aren't Honeywell/Space Cadet/Symbolics/etc
Slap a Symbiosis set and you're ready to go retro

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What a week.

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I would probably buy this but my research so far has not provided a very conclusive answer as to whether or not it can be easily made to work with modern PCs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEMOREX-TELEX-COMPUTER-PRODUCTS-211295-001-COMPUTER-KEYBOARD-H916-/381568311159?hash=item58d73e5f77:g:BIQAAOSwT5tWPU6O

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>>57494082
how much worse can that keyboard get

>>57494179
Well, it says it has been tested in the listing...I don't know how I missed that. But I don't know what their testing entails, and whether or not it is mechanical.

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>>57494218
>not liking American flag reflections on each key
What's wrong with black? Also I've got granite Tai Hao Doubleshot PBTs comine bruh.

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>>57494261
>granite Tai Hao Doubleshot PBTs
ughgbh

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>>57494082

>filco board
>stock keyset
>not filco hipro

get out

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>>57494285
it's too bad they didn't go with full sculpted

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>>57494272
lollllllllllllllll go sell some more shit son

>>57494285
These are Tai Hoe doubleshots. Stock caps would had proper modifier legends.

Those look like shite.

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>>57494298
what?

tai-hao are turboshit

>>57494298
>These are Tai Hoe doubleshots. Stock caps would had proper modifier legends.

Actually they are a custom set from SP made for Filco.

All R3 though I believe.

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>>57494312
except the top two rows

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>>57492816
Once you wake up anon, mind telling me what keyboard and where'd you get your keycaps? Also nice DOOM album man.

>>57494082
>>57494261
>>57494295
>>57494298
>costar stabilizers
Not sure why you fanboy that.

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>>57494312
I was referring to my caps, which you were commenting on. Not your caps, which I was commenting on.

>>57494364
Who mentioned stabilizers?
Also
>who gives a crap about stabilizers?

>>57494364

Possibly because they're not scratchy and don't bind up like cherry stabs.

>>57494403
>>57494407
They brake ridiculously easy.

>>57494417

They don't even have brakes, silly goose.

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>>57494417
My keyboard doesn't have any brakes. Was that an option I forgot to request?

It has never broken either, despite heavy daily use. I don't have six keyboards like some folks, this one gets all my use. So if they break (I assume that's what you meant) easily, I would assume mine would have. But nothing on it ever has. So I must conclude that you're full of shit.

>>57494417

I have some legit cherry ones on my Compact SQ, they have been an absolute clusterfuck.

>>57494452
The spacebar is what I've broken on 3 different costar stabilizer keyboards. For games where you spam the spacebar they can't handle it.

>use filco majestouch for years
>its great and all
>spill an entire coke into it
>take it apart and clean it meticulously
>be using logitech k120 in the mean time
>never bother to go back to the filco

shit hurts my hands like toblerone in retrospect

>>57494474
You must rage pretty hard, I play FPSs A LOT, every day, many hours, and I've never broken it.

Maybe take it easy on the Mountain Dew?

>>57494504
I don't rage on my my keyboards. Costar stabilizers just can't handle gaming use. I don't own a Razer keyboard but they have issues with them that you can look up. I remember them popping up in my searches for what was causing the issue awhile back.

The cherry stabilizers have been good for me. Been using them for years.

>>57494568
What breaks on them, exactly?

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>>57494592
The plastic bit on the key that holds the bar.

>>57494624

Never had one of those break no matter how much I mash the spacebar in any game.

I'd probably still use them if they did break after a while. They'd be trivial to replace and they're that much nicer to use than Cherry stabilizers.

What is the loudest switch? There's no point owning a mech unless everyone knows I do

>>57494954
IBM beamspring with solenoid enabled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK2cnxXauls

>>57494954
Bucking springs.

Hey guys, i have been looking for a mkb for a while now.

There is some guy selling a CM quickfire rapid for 50€ near me, is this worth it? Or will I regret being cheap and end up buying a more expensive one in the near future?

bumpo

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>>57492692
>>57492923
>>57493035
>>57493100
Why are those keyboards making me genuinely angry?

>>57495749
You might be on the spectrum, buddy.

>>57492816
It's a Noppoo choc mini and the keycaps are from ukkeycaps
Thanks.

>>57494359
>>57495897
Meant to tag you

>>57495262
you will end up buying multiple expensive ones dont worry

Where can I sell my poker 2? Mx blue and no backlight. I'm in europe btw.
I want to buy a tada so bad

>>57496747
Put it up for sale on deskthority or something.

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Anybody have experience with GON keyboards? http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/
My search for an aluminum cased number pad has led me to them, seems pricey.

>>57496865
>leds everywhere
Looks pretty ricer.

>>57496880
Yeah I'm not into that LED junk, they're optional and configurable at least.

>>57496865
>GON keyboards
If you like getting scammed out of your money, then go for it.

geekhack org/index.php?board=148.0

>>57496958

Everything is a scam.

>geekhack org/index.php?topic=79769.msg2271253#msg2271253

>>57495262
not a waste, CM keyboards are generally considered high quality. if you are looking for a normal good quality mkg you should go for it.

if you want to pimp it, there is a group buy going on for a custom aluminium case right now. https://shop.norbauer.com/products/custom-cnc-aluminum-case-for-coolermaster-novatouch-rapid-i-and-masterkeys-keyboards

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>Bought Planck with Maitas switches
>Now if only I could find a nice labeled ALPS keyset to replace the blanks

>>57497205
It seems like imsto showed back up at least. Would still be a little paranoid regardless.

Not to mention ivan running off with the money for the round of PBT caps.

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>>57494954
Omron Ambers are even louder then >>57495012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeHOgxmbzRE

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>>57495749
Funny thing is that I'm also the OP

I've plenty more images to trigger you buddy :^)

>>57496958
Watta shame. Can't say I'm comfortable with giving them money after seeing all those complaints.
Guess I'll wait for an aluminum cased numpad groupbuy on Mass Drop or something.

>>57497687
there is the road kit
https://thevankeyboards.com/

>>57497725
Yeah I've seen that, I'd have gone for it instantly if there was just one more row of keys. Still considering it, but it's a bit less than ideal.

im looking for this exact layout:
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc71-rgb-bluetooth-mechanical-keyboard
>http://www.drevo.us/product/keyboard71
i dont need the bluetooth, keycaps or rgb lighting
already found the VA68M but i need the home and end keys

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>>57497747
That's basically a TKL without the FN row. Not sure why you'd not just get a TKL.

>>57497756
because what's the point of a dedicated fn row for most people lol

>>57497790
Beats me, I don't use it that much either, but there's not really much of a reason to get rid of it if you're already going to have an otherwise TKL-style layout. I'd be more concerned about the horizontal space that your keyboard occupies rather than the vertical space.

>>57497756
>>57497807
its easier to carry around, a dedicated fn row is a waste of space
plus i find a smaller board more aesthetically pleasing

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>>57497824
Why not get a 65% like the Tada68 or the magicforce then?

TKL is still wasting space on that gap between the alphas and the navigation keys.

What are some more keyboards like the TADA68?

>>57497838
a+ for reading compression my dude
i need delete, home, end, page up, page down and arrow keys

>>57497864
Whitefox
RS68
Clueboard and Leopold fc660m are similar but slightly more wasted space and 2 less keys.

>>57497864
RS 68 >>57492923
Magiforce 68

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>>57497747
wow that's the worst layout i've seen so far, i think

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>>57497910
>reading compression
The TADA68 is fully programmable, as are many other boards with that layout.

>>57497910
Magicforce 68 has a 4-key cluster of del, ins, pgup and pgdn with home and end on the function layer of pgup/pgdn.

That's probably the closest you're gonna get to what you want without making your own keyboard from scratch.

Or just buying a standard TKL and dealing with the useless fn row.

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>>57497933
I can think of something worse

Got bored and decided to read through the keyboard Reddit. Everyone there is so pro cherry switches because they watched too much Linus tech tips or something. They also all use Macbooks. I think putting fruit on your product really helps it sell.

>>57498201
>reddit
Found your problem.

>>57492746
Where do you get your parts?

>>57498113

Why even bother with legends?

Especially incomplete foreign language ones that not even native speakers use.

Such a rage inducing board.

>>57498217
you can get them from group buys, China, or websites like techkeys and mechanicalkeyboards

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>>57498221
I think that those aftermarket keycaps didn't fit properly since this is the layout of the keyboard

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rate my keyboard

Gateron blue or mx blue?

>>57498344
Cherry clicky switches are better then geteron's. If it was linear or tactile then go with gaterons

>>57498344
Second hand information:
MX blue.
Gateron are great switches, but their click ones lack QC and you should generally stick to Cherry for them. Otherwise, Gateron > Cherry.

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>>57498314
Rate mines

looking for mechanical keyboard, any advise ?

100%
budget: up to 50E
location: france
layout: US
current : genesis rx66

light every where plzzz

>>57498360
>>57498361
Ok thanks for the information

>>57498371
anthrax/10

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>>57498382

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>>57498113
meh, that's still more functional seeing as you could program it to do whatever the hell you wanted in as little space as you wanted

>>57498373
for that low budget maybe go for Chinese keyboards

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B01MXJPQKZ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1479054254&sr=8-6&keywords=e-element+z-77

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Is the G610 worth the $90? I am really thinking about getting it. Just looking for a mouse now to go along with it.

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>>57498462
non-standard bottom row and non-standard stabilizer placement. Get a Ducky One instead.

>>57498484
>non-standard bottom row and non-standard stabilizer placement
What do you mean?

>Get a Ducky One instead
Why?

>>57498484
wait, what's non-standard about that bottom row? i genuinely can't see any difference in that picture.

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>>57498462
the media keys are nice, but if you want a cheap cherry mx keyboard why not wait until black friday / cyber monday. I got a Rosewill rk9000 for 60 bucks last year, though I don't know if that same deal will happen again. I didn't hurt to wait now does it.

>>57498501
The bottom row is non-standard, and even the placement of the stabilizers is non-standard. E. g. finding replacement keycaps will be a massive pain.

Ducky doesn't have a track record of making shit keyboards. They're known for the opposite.

>>57498506
CTRL is a tiny bit wider. It's subtle, but you can see it.

are the qisan/magicforce keyboards to good to be true? or am i going to get chink'd

>>57498526
yeah i just saw it, 1.5u ctrl keys and a 5.75u (?!) spacebar

the fuck logitech, literally no-one makes 5.75u spacebars

>>57498512
Yea they are nice, can be used. I was thinking of waiting but I don't know if this particular keyboard is gonna drop in price, hopefully it does. I want to get a bunch of things so I would be happy if they dropped a little at least.

>>57498526
Doesn't bother me that much, my current keyboard has the same bottom row. Why would I need replacement keycaps? I am not gonna mess with them like people do.

Link me a good ducky with brown switches that isn't very expensive.

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>>57498501
I've got a Ducky keyboard and a Logitech keyboard. Now from experience I can never go back to ABS keycaps again after having ducky dye-sub PBT for so long. The massive jump in quality was worth the extra 20 bucks compared to the laser etched ABS that the g610 has. Now Ducky also has three layer function mapping with fully programmable macros. I've only got a couple macros set, but your mileage may vary. Personally I don't care for a back light and having dedicated volume keys is enough for me since the media playback is all bounded to my mouse, but if you want a back light then there is this:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1535

>>57498567
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1695

Here you go.
Yes, no browns because browns suck. Get any other switch than browns.

Because maybe at some point you'll want to replace your keycaps because the stock ones are either worn out or got shiny and look disgusting. Or just because you feel like it, because modularity is one of the nice things about mechanical keyboards.

>>57498635
>all ABS keys are bad
Some reddit level of retard.

>>57498667

Cheap ABS is bad. Good ABS is just as good as good PBT.

>>57498635
>Transparent Pink Case
You got to be kidding me dude.. really?

I would be happy with a white back light or something, I could careless about about media keys and macros and all of that.

>>57498657
>Cherry MX Blue
They are way to loud. Plus what is wrong with browns? They seem to be the best overall for my needs.

>>57498698
if you're using browns you might as well save yourself a ton of money and use a garbage membrane board tbqh

>>57498675
When talking about high quality PBT and ABS I agree. It's personal preference.
However, I think ABS is better for backlit keys. PBT tends to bleed light more it seems.

>>57498667
PBT keycaps are great. I've yet to try GMK ABS, but until then I'd go for PBT over ABS anyday. Also whats wrong with you?

>>57498657
>https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1695
No numpad is somewhat of a turn off for me, and blues are to loud, I don't want to annoy my whole family because of my typing.

>>57498716
That is not fucking true at all..

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>>57498698

Have you actually used browns?

By their description they sound great. Quiet with tactile feedback. In real life, they are a gritty mess with just a minor bump. The solid click a blue has is vastly superior in almost every way.

Besides, sound is less dependant upon switches and more on case, caps, and plate. My greens board is much quieter than my browns.

Also, try to spot the miss in this picture.

>>57498458
ok I bought it, thanks a lot anon.

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>>57498698
>They are way to loud
Get blacks or reds, or clears.

Browns feel like reds with dirt in the middle, that's what wrong with them. "Browns are the best for typing and gaming" is bullshit marketing that people keep spouting because they have no idea what they're talking about.

Browns are a miserable compromise between tactility and low weighting.

Get one of the Ducky One's with dyesubbed PBT caps, they come in full-size.

>>57498757

Actually, bump is even too strong of a word. It feels more like a peice of sand getting caught between something inside the switch. It just feels wrong.

>>57498757
>>57498770
Alright, thanks for informing me. Yea everyone makes it seem that browns are the best overall for gaming and typing. Which Ducky keyboards are good and how are the blacks, reds, and clears? I don't like reds because they are linear or however people say it.

>>57498698
>They are way to loud
You know it doesn't really matter since you bottom out the keys anyway. But if you want cherry browns and don't care for all that extra stuff then maybe check out:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=34&switch=2&size=Full+Size&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

The custom doubleshot ABS keycaps might not be your taste, but I think the inverse colors look nice

>>57498795
If you don't want something linear and still want something quiet, clears are your only option when it comes to cherry switches.

>>57498799
Now that people told me that I don't want a brown switch keyboard. I don't know what the best option is though.

I normally just do regular usage and sometimes I play games, but not all that often.

>>57498812
How they perform on what I said above?

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>>57498795
Why not get gateron switches since they have an extended tactile bump or maybe cherry clears and tactile greys.

>>57498832
Damn I don't even know anymore mate...

>>57498827
Gateron Browns are basically Cherry Browns but actually good, or Cherry Clears are Cherry Browns but good and with a higher actuation force.

>>57498827
>How they perform on what I said above?
They're perfectly fine for everything. The only thing that I'd be cautious of with clears is if you play games that require you to hold down modifiers with your pinky a lot since that can cause strain to your arm.

>>57498795
If you want a quiet mechanical keyboard then check out matias quiet click switches since they are even quieter then rubberdomes

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>57498850
Do they come in brands like Ducky and shit, should be cheaper as well?

>>57498852
>hold down modifiers with your pinky
I don't think I have ever done this before.

>>57498865
Doesn't have to be that quiet either mate (Also outside of my budget) I just don't want to awake my entire family because my keyboard is loud as fuck. I just want it not to be insanely loud.

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>blue switches getting shilled all over the internet
>go to the nearest electronics store and actually give them a shot
>they're mushy as fuck when compared to my microsoft rubber dome
>feel kinda disappointed
>I then try another keyboard with green switches
>feels like heaven
>but it's impossible to find green switches for cheap

>>57498902
>but it's impossible to find green switches for cheap
Ducky and CM have some for 100 bucks and under

>>57498889
>Doesn't have to be that quiet either mate (Also outside of my budget) I just don't want to awake my entire family because my keyboard is loud as fuck. I just want it not to be insanely loud.

Then even blues are fine.

As was said here:
>>57498770

Switches are less important than caps, case, and plate when it comes to sound.

>>57498902

Avoid Gateron Greens.

I built a Cherry Greens ergodox and love the damn thing.

I then built a Gateron Greens Planck and they are so bad it is almost unusable.

>>57498923
Alrighty thanks. Would you say that they are good for typing and general usage and sometimes gaming?

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>>57498889
then prepare to be disapointed since all cherry switches are loud
http://www.pcworld.com/article/242037/mechanical_keyboard_faq_pick_the_right_switch.html

>>57498889
>I don't think I have ever done this before.
Then you're good.
I got pains in my lower left arm after some month of gaming with clears due to holding down the left shift key with my pinky. Replacing the left-shift with a black switch fixed that problem.

>>57498923
I think you're quoting the wrong guy, but while case, plate, and keycaps make quite a difference on the sound, blues are still what you'd want to avoid if you don't want an unnecessarily noisy keyboard.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1448

Does Ducky make good mouses?

Need help in deciding which keyboard to buy.

>around 150€ tops
>Italy
>I would like a tactile and clicky switch, was thinking of MX Blue but I've read that it's not the best for gaming. I do write quite a lot with my keyboard, but I also game, so I'm open to suggestions.
>ISO
>100%
>Not necessary but welcome
>Logitech G510. I find all the macro keys useless so I would look for something without them, but I do like the media keys, gaming mode switch and LCD screen with system info.

I was currently looking at the HyperX Alloy FPS, the only product I've ever owned by them is the Cloud headphones and they're great plus best value for money I've ever got out of headphones. I'm inclined to think their build quality on the keyboard itself would be very good, but any first-hand experiences are very welcome.

>>57498889
This should give you an idea for how loud boards are relative to each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwaO1GmMLWk

>>57498946
>quality blue switch boards quieter than shitty junk quality brown switch boards
kek

>>57498960
Oh I actually did do that quite often, I played a game called The Isle and to run I had to do this, I got banned.

>>57498968
Thanks ill take a listen.

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>>57498940
All Razer™ products are made by gaymers for gaymers. The excellent build quality is unmatched by the industry and I would 10000% recommend them

>>57498963
Blues are fine for gaming, ignore the "Linear or browns only!!" bullshit.

>>57498960

You are right, I meant to quote:
>>57498757

A lot of people shit on blues, but having both a blues and browns board, I hear very little difference. More sound is made by bottoming out than the switch itself.

>>57498940

Blues? Absolutely. Though I would recommend greens over blues.

The best way to decide though is to get a switchtester. I personally love greens, but my BFF can't stand them. He prefers linears no matter what.

There is even one on massdrop right now.
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/varmilo-switch-tester-with-anodized-case

>>57498989
Fuck off you cunt.

>>57499015
What is the difference between Blues and Greens?

>>57499037
just a heavier spring

>>57499037
>What is the difference between Blues and Greens?
The weight of the spring. A blue will bottom out around 60g, while a green is more like 80g (or 90g, I forget which). That's it.

>>57499037

Greens have a stiffer spring.

>>57499037
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/mechanical-keyboard-guide#comparison

Check out the force graphs

>>57498963
any of these Italian keyboards will do

http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&path=mechanical+keyboards&lan=Italian&ss=de&rtv=100

>>57499049
>>57499053
>>57499057
Wouldn't Blues be better then? I wouldn't want to be pressing so hard.

>>57498968
They all sound so fucking loud, maybe it's just because the mic is right next to the keyboard.

>>57499069
Browns, clears, reds, and blacks seem to have good force to actuate.


Honestly guys I don't even know what to get or what brand, might just get the G610 and say fuck it. I really don't know.

>>57499112
>Wouldn't Blues be better then? I wouldn't want to be pressing so hard.

It is not like your fingers will get tired.

Some say they are quiter because you are less likely to bottom out, but I haven't noticed much of a difference myself.

Best bet is a switchtester.

>>57499112
Just wait until Black Friday anon. By then you can just buy a bunch of keyboards for cheap then return the ones you don't like

>>57498727
I don't know? Guess I just don't get the hype with PBT keys..

>>57499135
From Amazon? They don't have Ducky keyboards I think.

>>57499112
Fuck your family buy a buckling spring keyboard and hammer away. Who cares if they have to get some sleep

>>57499172
The slight roughness of PBT keys pleases my fingertips in a way that shitty smooth stock ABS caps never will.

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>>57499172
Its hard to explain but the feel of PBT is so much nicer then ABS. There is also the benefit that they don't shine and turn piss yellow over time like ABS

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>>57499187
Maybe if I slept in the basement like you that would be a good idea

>>57496865
2 years to ship for an assembled board
>>57499172
PBT retains its texture for much longer so it does not get smooth as quickly.
My HHKB's keys after 2-3 years are not smooth but have *a little* shine. It's been my main board for that time.
I'm considering building a Minivan or Planck.

>>57499251
>>57499190
>>57499215
I know what they feel like. It's just not something I go out of my way for.

>>57499220
Do people really sleep in the basement. I thought that this was a meme, or something poor people do?

Honestly though I've got a blue switch mechanical keyboard and my neighbor in the room next door can't hear it. Unless the walls of your house are made from cardboard then this shouldn't be an issue

>>57499300
Is the click from the blues even louder than the sound of bottoming out?

>>57499172
Its the same thing with leather seats. They feel much more comfortable to sit on and they last longer, but at the end of the day it really isn't necessary

>>57499328
No the sound of bottoming out is louder. That is why Browns and Blues sound the same.
Now if you are very very precise and you make sure not to bottom out your key presses every time then browns are quieter, but I'm not that patient

>>57499300
Yea some people on here literally sleep in basements, it's crazy honestly. Here in FL they are made out of cardboard, and the sounds probably escape through the door as well.

>>57499409
>basement
>florida
how?

>>57499541
It's possible, just expensive. I never said that there were basements in FL though, I was responding to two different things you said.

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>>57499573
>I was responding to two different things you said.
you got the wrong anon.

>>57499589
Ah okay you should have said that you weren't him, but yea basements are rare but happen here.

>>57499589
hi its the right anon
>>57499611
I thought the water table was too high here.

>>57499622
Yea it is mate, they make the basements with very low roofs, like you can't or barely stand I assume. As far as I know it's expensive. In Miami-Dade county there are like 9 homes with basements, I was curious and searched that up the other day.

>>57498946
>Ultimate Stealth
>loudest of the bunch

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>>57498757
>try to spot the mistake in this picture

Ranking of /mkg/-approved switches

Tactile:
>Zealios
>Gateron browns
>Cherry clears

Linear:
>XMIT hall effect sensors
>Gateron reds/blacks

Clicky:
>Buckling spring
>Cherry greens

Thicc:
>Topre 55g

>>57500456
>Zealios
>/mkg/-approved
meh, i'm not sure how accurate that is

>>57500456
>>57500547
zealios are a meme, replace it with matias quiet click

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I have an Amazon coupon and thought of buying a new keyboard. What exactly are the advantages of buying a mechanical one? I found that VicTsing (chinese?) one with a pretty good rating and just 30 Euro. Is this a good buy? I need it for gaming mainly.

>>57500693
The advantage is that it feels amazing to type on. I'm you don't even know how to touch type then you're just memeing yourself

hello sir where can i buy cheap simply colored keyboard in europe

peace be upon him

Greetings /g/entoomen

I'm looking to buy a new keyboard and seek your advice.

>Budget
~150 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Denmark
>Preferred switch type
Currently using MX Browns. Want something clicky that's great for typing (programming all day), so probably MX Blues (or greens? or something else entirely).
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
Open to both TKL and 100%.
>Backlight
A nice plus but not necessary.
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently using a Ducky Shine 3. Except for the switches I love it. It's build like a tank, very plain visually (not GAYMEN-style), everything is hardware-sided so it works with all OS'es etc. Ideally I'd get a new one of these with MX Blues or something similar, but I'm open to something new (especially since this exact model either is impossible to find or very expensive).

I want PBT keycaps and a non-flasy design.

Cheers lads

>>57493100
Does this keyboard have a standard layout?
Can't post the image but it's the one in the linked post.

>>57501890
Sounds like you're already a fan of Ducky...

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1556

>>57501890
>>57502282
>Denmark
>ISO
Wait, shit, I can't read. Let's see if they have an ISO version...

>>57502282
limited edition shine 6 came up for preorders

hopefully see the regular non $200 version before the end of the year

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Hi there, anons. Not a regular /mkg/ browser since it often makes me envious, so here we go

>Budget
Sub-$100 (poorfag)
>Location (continent at least)
US of A
>Preferred switch type
Not sure, but probably either MX Black, Brown, or Blue. I would've instantly chose Blues, but I do a fair amount of double tapping, so I'm not exactly sure.
>Layout
ANSI, but I'm okay with ISO
>Form factor
TKL (or 60%)
>Backlight
probably not, considering the budget
>Previous/current keyboards
poorfag so I'm forced to use a 2 year old (if not older) razer blackwidow that I found for about $25 (would've never bought it if not for the price)
please help me, I want to stop using the razer meme already
besides that, my x220 keyboard

>>57502878
correction
razer deathstalker*, I don't know these shitty marketing names
so yeah, I'm not even using a mechanical

>>57497469

Too bad Omron's QC is hot garbage and all of their switches fail rapidly.

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Hey people. I bought a AK33 Ajazz with black "Zorro" switches.
What do you think about it?

>>57498371

Must've been a lot of jizz on there to grow that much mold.

>>57503165
As far as I know someone spilled chocolate milk on it, or something like that.

>>57502878
How did you get that keyboard for so cheap?

>>57498757
>pcb mount

Gross.

What is the purpose of lights inside keyboards?

>>57503192
I knew a person who picked one up but never even opened it. He even admitted that he had no clue why he bought it.

>>57503246
So he bought the keyboard, had no use for it, and sold it to you for dirt cheap?

>>57500456
>no alps

Matias quiet switches are top tactile, no contest.

Matias click switches are > cherry greens but < buckling springs

>>57503269
right.
it was either that or ordering a cheap keyboard that would be even worse elsewhere, so I decided to do it
I didn't expect that I'd somehow manage to keep it for 2 years, though

>>57503295
Dude for 25 it was a fucking steal, much better than some rubber dome crap. What's wrong with the keyboard anyways?

>>57503318
still working well, but I'm considering switching since I have some funds available. I'm not buying a new one currently, I'm just looking for few choices

>>57503318

It's cheaply made and has terrible aesthetics yet sells at a premium price.

If you got it for $25 then it's just ugly.

>>57503373
Same here. Probably for Black Friday (When prices drop) I will order a new keyboard and mouse.

Currently using a shit cooler master devastator combo, it has served me well, especially for the price.

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I've been looking all 'round the net and can't decide if this is going to be a good keyboard, or going to be garbage.

https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hall-Effect-Mechanical-Keyboards_60531096167.html

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massdrop delivered my wood keyboard case a few days ago but I just got around to putting it in. Overall very happy with it

Are fukka switches any good? I was thinking about buying the KeyboardParadise V80 with fukka switches.

Need a new keyboard and wanted some suggestions.

>$200 maximum
>North America
>Blue/Brown/Clear preferred switch
>ANSI
>100% Form Factor (104 keys)
>Backlight optional

Gonna mainly be using it for gaming, but also the occasional document creation.

>>57503912

Hall effect switches are pretty boss and hard to get wrong.

>>57504406

They're p.gud. At least as good as Matias.

>>57504472
Cool. How are they compared to cherry blues?

>>57504495

Tactility and clickyness of pretty much any clicky alps style switch blows cherry out of the water.

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>>57504449
I was mildly concerned about the fact that there is little or no programming, and if I should worry about whether Alibaba machanical keyboards have a good or a bad reputation.

Basically just want to cross my "i"s and dot my "t"s, make sure no one here has heard of crippling flaws or had anything else to weigh in on.

My first ever mechanical keyboard, by the way.

>>57504514
Thanks anon. I will get one then.

>>57504522

The people who've reviewed it seem pretty happy with it. As long as the sliders hold up over time there isn't much that can go wrong with the switches.

Hall effect isn't mechanical, though. It's a magnetic non-contact switch.

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>>57504576
>isn't mechanical, though
Er...

You know what I mean. A keyboard where some...ya know...THOUGHT is put into the typing mechanism rather than just shitting a membrane under a set of chiclets. In other words, something that's worth more than 5 dollars.

Thanks by the way.

>>57504620
You could just call it "quality" or something. Having an actuation mechanism is a specific thing.

>>57500456
where are all the alps switches, including their clones?
What about beam spring?
If you put topres in there why not mistumi switches as well?
What about cherry navy and orange switches?

>>57504705
Where are you supposed to buy any of those?

>>57505069
There are hundreds of them on eBay for like 40 bucks. Heck you can even buy them from electronic recyclers for cheap:
https://www.elecshopper.com/input-devices/keyboards.html

The hardest of those to get would be beam springs, but there are at least a dozen of those on ebay

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Has anyone ever used a matrix/grid style keyboard? Did you like them at all over qwerty or other styles you use?

>>57504576
Anyone know how harsh the bottoming out is?
I really don't like how Cherries do it.

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im not asking for advice but merely sharing how much i love his keyboard
>multicolored backlit
>mechanical
>generic cherry mx blue sounds orgasmic
>104 keys
>50 million clicks
>build quality
>$45
i have to fight the urge to cum everytime i see it

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AUQETOG?vs=1

>>57505838
Apparently it's turboloud.

>>57505838

It's pretty similar to cherries. The switch would be super simple to dampen if they bothered, though.

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>>57498762
I have the z-77 as a replacement for an RMA RA which takes months because living in the middle of fucking nowhere sucks. They are great for the price and the manuals have great descriptions

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What's the latest and greatest in ergo mechanicals? Is it still just ergodox and Kinesis at the top of the heap?

>>57507383
We're all waiting for that adjustable topre ergo board project to take off

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>>57507383
You need rear view mirrors to be truly ergonomic.

>>57507429
> topre ergo
oh wow

>>57507383
>>57507429
>being crippled

Test

>>57492692
Any recommendations for (silver coloured) aluminium keyboards? I don't want to mod cases but I'm fine with buying some aluminium keycaps to put on.

>Live in Australia
>Budget not a worry
>TKL (with media keys) preferred
>White back-lit prefered
>Brown cherry's preferred
>Not fussed on how high or low the keys sit in the casing

>>57507383
hip

>>57505843
>backlit
Why?

>>57500426

Hey! you got it!

It was the H key. Took me months to figure out why it kept acting weird.

What do you guys think about Motospeed ck104? I would like to move from my shitty 10$ Tracer keyboard

>>57510460
hot garabge

>>57510573
What you mean by that?

>>57510617
If you buy a Chinese knockoff keyboard and it breaks you have no one to blame but yourself.

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So regulars of /mkg/ why do you keep on coming here? Is it for the big circle jerks or do you guys get off on having your jimmies rustled on why topres are just over priced rubber domes

>>57512313
I'm actually enjoying my anger.

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>>57512313
/diy/ is slow and this place has a perfect ratio of funposting to actual discussion. Not to mention that I don't have to browse multiple keyboard related websites since everything that's actually interesting seeps through to here.

>>57505503
I am using an ergodox if it counts, takes a week or two to adjust but then it feels great.
>>57504307
how much was it?
I was thinking about building these custom.
>>57507383
Maltron with malt layout now that the GBP is low

I'm going to be given a busted old razer keyboard
>inb4 razer trash
and i'm going to remove the keyswitches are they are mx blues. What kind of procedures would I need to take to build my own mech from scratch?

yo where can i cop a cool case for a 75% keyboard?
no floating switch bullshit

>>57513924
How scratch are we talking here? Do you want to use a pre-soldered PCB or to hand-wire all the switches together? What sort of layout are you looking for, one that's a standard size and lets you use an existing readily available case or one that's a bit different?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/xmit-hall-effect-mechanical-keyboard

I'm very interested in this board. Thoughts or similar experiences?

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>>57498113

>>57514694
What confuses me the most about this is I can't tell if it's an actual keyboard or if someone actually wasted a bunch of what appear to be real switches on a fucking capstand.

What should I get as my first Mechanical keyboard?

>>57515746
Cherry G80-3000
Filco Majestouch
Cherry MX Board 3.0

Any of those 3 can also be your last mechanical keyboard. Most keyboards discussed in these threads are just /fa/ genderfluid hipster memes.

>>57515746
Do you require the following:
Numpad? Ducky One
Function row/full nav cluster? Ducky One TKL
Arrow keys/partial nav cluster? TADA68
None of the above? Pretty much any standard 60%

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new weeb caps
https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/xda-milestone/

>Light Cycle DSA canceled
>Alps keycaps choices are Tai-Hao and Harvesting.
Fuck this, new Alps caps GB when?

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>>57516261
now

Fuck I like Matias switches but they need some fucking quality control. Every board that I've owned with their switches in them has developed key chatter after just a few months of use.

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Just bought this:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/xmit-hall-effect-mechanical-keyboard

Anyone have any experience with these switches? I have wanted to try a linear switch for a while and figured i would also try something other than cherry while I'm at it.

>>57516934
These particular switches? Nobody does, except the 5 or 6 people he sent samples to. Read his DT thread for more details.

Hall effect keyboards used to be a thing. Game controllers still use them sometimes for analog buttons, like the triggers on Xbox controllers. If you have no other point of reference, at least there's that.

[spoiler]I have brown switches and I like them. Yes, I've tried all the common switches before buying.[/spoiler]

>>57516605
haven't seen you in a while. looks like the caps are finally getting to us. which one did you order?

Is there anywhere good to get custom laser etched keys?

>>57516261
>>57516605
WHERE?

>>57517021
They have those chink made Hall switch keyboards on Alibaba, anyone tried those?

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>>57516605
not posting best one

>>57517352
I ordered the red/black and purple/cyan Japanese sets.

>>57517733
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405

>>57492724
So know where to get good ortholinear key cap sets?

>>57518227
ask Signature Plastics

Tfw found old razer blackwidow that my friend lost because he spilled grape soda on it

The ctrl keys are nor working. What do I do?

>>57516934
I'm also joining the drop anon, fingers crossed.

>>57498532
no, they're quite good

are buckling springs a meme or the OTG?

>>57516934
>>57517879
Are these okay for my first mechanical keyboard?

>>57518439
If you don't mind linear.

>>57518439
Probably? Not many people have experience with those kinds of switches so it's a little risky.

Expect long wait times, though. If you want one soon, best get something else.

I have a budget of about $200
I need a fullsize and im debating between greens and buckling springs, wat do?

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>>57518509
Damn, anything else with a similar design? Or similar to pic realted

plz
>>57518393
plz respond

>>57518544
If you want something where you still have arrow keys + numpad but save some space, Cooler Master has a neat layout where the numpad and arrow keys are combined. It's called the Masterkeys Pro M. But it's not the nicest looking of boards.

The layout in your pic is called a 1800 layout and pretty hard to find outside of old boards or custom. Why not get a tenkeyless?

>>57518393
>>57518558
buckling springs are pretty nice

>>57518630
does there exist a buckling spring keyboard that isn't limited to 2kro?

>>57518611
>>57518611
I meant more regarding the color scheme. Is it easy to match colors if I just get a board I like first?

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>>57518544
Leopold FC980M

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>>57518544
Leopold has pic related, which is a similar layout that you can buy here
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=37&switch=&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=154&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

If you want that exact keyboard its a cherry keyboard made for Dolch Pac that came with a portable network sniffer, as such they are hard to come by individually. Now cherry sells that layout as the g80-1800 series

>>57518691
Well it's not very hard to match colours with a plain black keyboard.

>>57518660
Either old terminal keyboards /AT keyboards with an active adapter like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Soarers-Converter-Adapter-for-IBM-Model-F-122-Keyboard-Remapping-Macros-NKR-/271644933588
have NKR, or any IBM model F

>>57518660
yeah the IBM Model Fs but they pretty much all need to be modified to work on modern computers

>>57518691
That color scheme is know as Dolch since it came on all Dolch keyboards. The colored space bar is from GMK as well as the CMYK modifiers

>>57518717
I wouldn't miss that 00 key in the numpad.
It's so hard to find a decent custom kit with a standard layout.

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Guys I just got an office job. Now I have to type a lot, and not for pleasure. The keyboard they gave me is an old Dell keyboard full of some fat bitches mustache hair and ruffles chip crumbs. They told me I can bring my own.

I'm not spending mechanical bux for something a mexican-chinese maid can steal from my desk late at night. Have any of you tried these "mechanical feel" keyboards? Are they worth a shit at all?

Ideally I want a keyboard with nice feel, that is quiet. It doesn't have to be anything special at all, but something with a better typing experience than a K120 would be preferred.