/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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only waiting for the stabilizers and then i'm good to go

>>57471206
What exactly is the point in soldering your own keyboard together? Seems to be a hassle getting decent parts.

>>57471221
It's not that hard unless you want a custom plate, case and/or pcb.


I'm still trying to figure out how to design a decent acrylic and alu sandwich case I can get cut so I can make the keyboard I really want.

>>57471221
most 60% boards like the poker are not fully programmable and don't support exotic layouts.
i started this build because i wanted a board to put my OG cherry dyesubs on, which is ISO and has 1.5u modifiers

New to mkb, thinking of buying either Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L or Steelseries Apex M500.

Which would you recommend?

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>>57471221
Fun

where can I get some cheap keycaps?
the chinese are trying to jew out like 40 bucks for a set and I'm 100% sure the chinese caps aren't worth that much since some of them are selling 37 keycap sets for like 4 bucks

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-Side-printed-Top-printed-Blank-for-PBT-37-Keycaps-plus-Spacebar-Keycap-Puller-Rainbow/32764054196.html

>>57471983
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/104-Key-PBT-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cover-Colorful-Translucent-Keycaps-for-Cherry-MX-Switches-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard/32742539470.html

these are pretty cheap too for a 104-set but the colors are disgusting.
I'm sure around 10 bucks would be the real price for something like this in china

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threadly reminder that the best keyboard ever made uses rubber dome.

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>>57471161
Dear /mkg/,

I ordered a Pok3r keyboard, mistakenly thinking it was the Pok3r III. Did I fuck up? Is the original Pok3r a shit? It hasn't arrived yet.

>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/xmit-hall-effect-mechanical-keyboard

What the fuck is a hall switch?

>>57472145
The best keyboards are ibms with beamsprings

>>57471161
Why do you have that weird-ass picture in a plastic frame?

>>57472256
Fuckin' magnets

>>57472256
Magnetic sensor. It's a non-contact switch used in industrial environments.

>>57472256
its a magnet that trips a sensor. They are more reliable then cherry switches due to the simplicity. Old Hall effect switches found on Honeywell keyboards had a life cycle of 30,000,000,000 compared to the 50,000,000 on cherry. These ones aren't as good I can grantee you, but I won't be surprised if they last longer then cherry again due to their simplicity

>>57472310
>/g/ doesn't recognise a CD album

Holy fuck they weren't kidding when they said /g/ was the most autistic board.

>>57472447
doesnt recognize an obvious troll

Reminder that if your keysboard has colours other than black, white or grey or as has backlighting that isnt white, you are absolute pleb tier.

>>57472246
pok3r == poker III

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>>57472577
lol fuck off newfag

how do i order the aluminum tada case from taobo

>>57472246
>Pok3r III
>Poker 3 3
Thanks for the chuckle.

>>57472633
if its in stock then use an agent like:

taobaotrends.com

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>>57472577
My keyboard has all of those things

Though I'm using my Ducky Shine 4 with translucent PBT caps at work. Needless to say, the backlight is on all the time.

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>>57472577
>>57472588
>>57472611
>>57472633
wew lad 4 dubs in a row. I won't leave those unchecked

>>57471563
I would recommend a Unicomp Model M, but you're probably better off going with what works best for you personally.

I currently have mx browns and I want to switch to clears. Do they have the same scratchy/sandy feeling like browns? They seem to work the same just with harder springs right?

>>57472875
Only thing about any Model M is that its only 2kro(not including modifiers afaik) wich is really bad for gaming, thats why i had to get a Model F.

>>57471563
I recommend you to go to you local tech store, they usually have many keyboards you can try out and find a switch you like.
If you know what switch you like it becomes much easier to find a keyboard you would like.

I myself recently bought an Noppo Lolita Spyder with brown switches, I think it's pretty good.

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>>57471563
Personally I'd wait until Black Friday/ Cyber Monday before buying a keyboard.

No if you have no patience you can get a ducky shine 5 for the same price as the cooler master, and it comes with much higher quality doubleshot keycaps compared to the laser etched ones on the CM board. Apex m500 is decent.

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>>57472938
compared to browns, clears have an extended tactile bump

>>57472975
ah i see thanks

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Best keyboard in the world incoming

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>>57473134
You posted the wrong image.

Here, let me help you with that.

>>57473134
wrong see
>>57472145

>>57473191
Topre isn't even close to being on the same page as a beamspring.

You're using a glorified rubber dome.

>>57473191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wlhOctBmFk

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>>57473230
You sure have trouble with names, don't you? You got it all the wrong way around.

>>57471161
those are some greasy caps

>>57473291
Obvious troll.

Enjoy your domes :) I've had BTC sliders that feel better kek

>>57472588
>>57472635
lol I seriously didn't know. OK cool. I emailed mechanicalkeyboards and the reply I got only confused me more when the guy explained "that I ordered a Pok3r and that they don't produce Pok3r or Pok3r II's any more."

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>>57473303
Have you had Topre though? :^)

>>57473373
I used to use a HHKB pro 2
Upgraded to a Model M, then Model F, now Beamspring.

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i lost control of my life

>>57473485
you should have bought a BT HHKB pro2 JP

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>>57472875
>>57472960
>>57472961

Thanks for responding guys.

Checked the pastebin and found the template for better advice

>Location (continent at least)
Sweden
>Preferred switch type
Linear. Cherry MX Black or Red, (prefer Black) [inb4 sweden jokes]
>Layout
ISO (Swedish/Nordic)
>Form factor
I need a numpad. The layouts where the arrow keys are removed and the numpad is there would be ideal.
>Backlight
Don't really use it but prefer white backlight

an HHKB Pro 2 for $150 just went on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282252253336?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2648

ratings are shit but who knows.

>>57473391
I thought that beam springs were linear until I tried them and I found out they are actually clicky

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>>57473583
check out Ducky Nordic!

I can't read Swedish but I think one of these is it:

http://www.easyzone.fi/
http://www.exertis.se/start/sv/
https://www.inet.se/
https://www.teraset.net/index.php

>>57469866
>you get what you pay for. expect dem first LEDs to malfunction soon.

Don't really care about the LEDs, just want a clicky mech for cheap.

>I have seen the "Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L" for under 115$ a few days ago.

That is double of the price of this keyboard.

>>57473367

Rebind FN to L_Ctrl, then rebind Caps to Ctrl as normal:

-Unplug your Pok3r.
-Flip DIP 4 to "on".
-Plug your Pok3r back in and be VERY CAREFUL. Mistakes here usually require you to reset your layer, losing all that stuff you did before.
-First press Fn. Then press L_Ctrl. (That L_Ctrl key is now bound to Fn.)
-Now press Pn. Then press Pn again, assuming you don't want to move it. If you want to move it, then press that key instead.
-SUPER CRITICAL NOTE: Once you've flipped DIP 4, you must bind both Fn and Pn or else you can end up with one of them completely unbound which will require a reset of ALL layers. Hold both ALT keys for 5 seconds until the LED stops blinking.
-Now flip DIP 4 back to "off".
T-est your shit and make sure that works!
ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE: Once you move your Fn to L_Ctrl, your "real" Fn key will automatically function as a Win key. In the case that you move your Pn key, it gets replaced by an App key. For a more complete expansion on what's happening here, see spoonraker's helpful comment.


https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/35uy60/guide_howto_program_your_pok3r_programming_layers/

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>>57473583
>The layouts where the arrow keys are removed and the numpad is there would be ideal.
You can get Korean customs like the duck Lightsaver (pic related), but those are expensive. The RS model F is also similar and its cheaper, but you'd have to source the parts from china

https://world.taobao.com/item/521127454892.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-3817085419.97.zADO6D

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>>57473583
i am also interested in more or less same thing (mx browns or clears)

very much this tho
>Form factor
I need a numpad. The layouts where the arrow keys are removed and the numpad is there would be ideal.

>>57473583
I'm >>57472960 also Swedish and can use the UK layout on my Spyder with close to no problems. But I guess the Spyder isn't for you if you need the numpad.

I have heard that Kailh/Gaterons actually has better switches than Cherry when it comes to reds at least, so I wouldn't be discouraged if I found one with them.

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>>57473656
no numpad sempai

>>57473723
seems complicated but the lightsaver v2 looks fucking amazing

>>57473727
I found that the cooler master masterkeys pro m seems to fit the bill (pic)

Does cooler master make good stuff? I take it it's ABS?

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>>57473891
>no numpad sempai
then get one with a numpad its not that hard anon.

>>57474045
that spacebar aids tho

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>>57473191
oh yayy this argument again!

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>>57474074
It comes with an extra one

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/g/ why are you still not using Topre?

>>57474427
Too expensive. I'd rather stick with the knockoffs

>>57474427
Because they're inferior to alps and buckling springs.

>>57474427
Because I prefer mechanical keyboards.

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>>57474427
Who in their right mind pays $200+ for rubber domes

>>57474680
who in the right mind pays for $1000 OTD keyboards

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>>57474735
the same people who buy topre

>>57474427
Don't know anyone who has one, not gonna drop 300 bucks on a keyboard I have no idea I will even like. Also a plastic case for a board this expensive is unacceptable.
I'll stick to my custom planck with god tier 65g zealios.

>>57474764
thats.... true.

>>57474916
I have zealios 65g as well on my orion v2.

But compared to a Cherry ergo clear switch on my octagon, zealios feels shittier and wobbly.

>>57475004
Zealios have only ever felt wobbly to me when using SA caps, otherwise they're quite perfect. I despise how tight of a fit mx clears are

>>57475068
>I despise how tight of a fit mx clears are
what do you mean by this?

>>57475068
They are notoriously tight compared to other cherry stems. I always put lube on caps i put on cherry clears.

>>57475169
why does this even matter? just be careful when you remove the caps so you don't break the switch?

>>57475230
Yeah but its even easier if theres lube, the lube is just for easy removal not performance or anything jesus christ

>>57475230
I've literally pulled the stem out of the housing before when I wanted to remove caps from my board with mx clears.

>>57475293
despise seemed like such a harsh word for just harder removal.

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Damn you /mkg/
Clacking up my CS class

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>>57471161
How am I doing?

>>57475548
fucking legend

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>>57475555
not bad for a chink

>Budget
$60

>Location (continent at least)
Trumpland

>Preferred switch type
Tactile non-clicky

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
Optional, blue or white

>Previous/current keyboards
Dell L100; no prior mech experience

>>57475548
respect this guy !

>>57475667
If you have the patience wait for black friday, otherwise:

these two are the same keyboard, one has a blue backlight while the other is white
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1933
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1930

https://www.amazon.com/Velocifire-Mechanical-Keyboard-Illuminated-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01M0QEYR4/ref=sxts_k2p_hero1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2668835602&pd_rd_wg=07R7z&pf_rd_r=Z0N6A7XM0M3SYA3NK58R&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-top-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B01M0QEYR4&pd_rd_w=RPWOh&pf_rd_i=brown+switch+keyboard&pd_rd_r=AZBGXM3VEA6ES0TNT900&ie=UTF8&qid=1478899334&sr=1

https://www.amazon.com/ENHANCE-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlighting-Switches/dp/B01K8Y6MNQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1478899334&sr=8-10&keywords=brown+switch+keyboard

>>57472256
Fuckin' miracles.

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/mkg/ what have you done to me? Just bought my 3rd keyboard still waiting on one from massdrop, and I'm still thinking about picking up a 60% one too.

My wallet hates you

>>57475809
>corsair

I'm pretty sure we didnt do anything to you.

>>57475809
>corsair
no anon your wallet hates you

>>57475809
you should hate yourself for being so stupid

>>57475809
First of all /mkg/ shits all over corsair products so I have no idea where you got that from.

>>57475555

Is this chinky keyboard any good? I'm thinking of buying one.

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>>57471161
>small meme you have there OP

Got this(the keyboard) during the week, feels pretty nice and looks good. It's my first mechanical and overall I'm happy with it.
It's quite loud though even though it's the brown switches, does those o-rings help much with the sound?

>>57475985
fucking kill yourself you meme'd out faggot. NMH sucks nigger cocks and so does your gay-ass fucking keyboard. Next time get one with a fucking numpad, retard. You paid extra money for less fuctionality dipshit, might as well go all out and buy a fucking Macbook.

>>57475985
>does those o-rings help much with the sound?
yea but they dont feel good

>>57475928
Cheap, you can swap switches really easily, brushed aluminum case, works well. I wanted a new keyboard with gateron Clears and it was the quickest/cheapest/easiest way. It's good

>>57476008
The keyboard was pretty much the cheapest one I found, so didn't really paid extra for it.

>>57476015
So you wouldn't recommend them then?

>>57476061
>So you wouldn't recommend them then?
i don't like them at all and i never really hear people that do either but they are quite cheap so why not try it out?

>>57476050

I see a lot of different brandings on seemingly identical keyboards on Aliexpress, with decently wide variations in price between them. Do you have any insight into that?

>you can swap switches really easily

That's a big plus.

>>57476084
Might as well try them, $1 at ebay isn't that much to risk I guess.

>>57475985
You could get some dental bands for cheap and try those out

>>57476152
Already pretty cheap as it is.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/120Pcs-Silicone-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-White-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-/351896668554?hash=item51eead098a:g:6uoAAOSw4GVYHCrm

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Hey /mkg/

I have had pic related for a couple years now and about 2 months ago the left CRTL key stopped working properly. Basically, the switch will not detect a press unless it is perfectly vertical when pressed, any lateral force whatsoever and it does nothing, it will also stop detecting a press when lateral force is applied while it's pushed down.

I was wondering what the difficulty is in acquiring a replacement switch and swapping it out (I have no soldering experience nor do I currently own any of the necessary tools).

Alternatively, have any of you ever heard of this issue happening before with a switch? Is there a potential solution to this problem, maybe by sticking something under the keycap to prevent all lateral movement?

Thanks!

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I'm currently using an old Dell keyboard I got for free when a school library ditched all its furniture, including computers, because of mold. It still has all the keys, but Return feels a bit wobbly. Given how much time I spend at the computer, I thought I could justify buying in a new one.
So, I'm thinking of trying out these mechanical meme keyboards people are always raving about. The options I'm specifically looking at are
>Turtle Beach Impact 600, MX Brown switches, 69.90e
>Logitech G410, Romer-G switches, 64.90e
The both look decent enough, but the latter is missing a numpad. Of course, I can always get an external numpad, so that's not a deal breaker, and I have some token respect for Logitech as a brand. They made my mouse, and it works well enough.

Is either of these blatantly shit? Are both? Should I just stick with the old keyboard?

>>57476786
maybe you can take the switch apart and replace the mechanisms inside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLBXxzmuA_Q

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>>57476859
>Romer-G switches
Don't bother with those Omron has always had problems manufacturing mechanical switches since forever and these are no exception. Not to mention that when your keycaps wear out finding high quality replacements would be impossible.

Now if you want you can get an old Dell AT101w with alps switches for cheap on places like eBay. But if you want brand new for that price you can get keyboards from Cooler Master, Rosewill, and Steelseries. I have never heard of Turtle beach keyboards, but they look like re brands of those Taiwanese keyboards you find for cheap on Taobao

Now if you want you can buy keyboards from China that have all sorts of features like programmable RGB lighting and macro support for cheap.

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It's coming on tuesday :)

>>57477618

Should have gotten the black/grey one desu.

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>>57477618
Nice a fellow Ducky one user. I'll be honest though the PBT key caps were disappointing

>>57477632
>implying all white isn't the superior choice

>>57477647
>PBT key caps were disappointing

how so? I've never used them before but I kept hearing that they were so much better than ABS or whatever

>>57477658

I'm just teasing him. Last night he was insecure about not getting the black/grey one.

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>>57477618
>>57477647
neat, im thinking of getting pic related myself

anyone eyeing anything for black friday?

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>>57477672
They definitely feel better and honestly I can never go back to ABS key caps again.
However when I was looking at reviews people said the key caps were fading. When I asked online I got replies like:
>Shut the fuck up faggot these are dye-sub PBT and the legends will never fade. Fuck off and go back to plebbit

Since I got a lot of these I thought that all those reviews were just trolls and I pulled the trigger. Then behold after one week of use the keycaps began to fade away on some of the keys. The weird thing was that these keys were barely used. Later I found out that these keycaps have a problem with bleaching and it quite common actually. So all those reviews online were right, but its still a great keyboard. I was planing on replacing the keycaps anyway with PBT SA profile so I don't mind as much

>>57477221
I think this would probably work based on the issue (assuming razer switchs can be taken apart the same way). Does anyone know where to buy a razer switch, having difficulty finding some and they don't seem to sell parts on their site.

Are there any Cherry switch's that are suitable replacements for a razer switch's if I can't find the parts?

>>57478062
old razer keyboards just used cherry switches. Take the cap off and see. Otherwise the newer ones use re branded kailh which are just clones of cherry

>>57478176
ya it's a Kailh rebrand

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>>57472611
>tfw love non-mechanical keyboard too much to get another

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>GMK carbon set shipped
>DHL

guess i'll get it in a week then

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>$104 + shipping for a numpad
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-numpad-bundle

What the fuck are these people smoking?

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>>57478427
pft wow look at think fckn poorfag

>>57478471
I'd just spend the extra 50 bucks and get a HHKB for those meme points rather then getting useless numpad

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>>57478427
Left hand numpad is master race.

>>57478727
Jelly of that space cadet. Too bad if I ordered a set from round 7 I'd most likely have to wait until 2018 to get it.

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>>57471161
>waiting for my new keyboard to arrive in the mail

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w/ Matias Quiet Clicks

Am I making a mistake?

>>57479840
If you were looking for something with considerably more tactility than MX switches and pretty quiet, then nope.

>>57479840
Finding replacement keycaps will be hard, but it is possible. Once every other month an alps keycap set drops for a week then ends.
Overall it is a very solid keyboard.

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>>57479847
and considerably more wobble and shitty keycaps
so much that i sold the one i had

Can someone explain the purpose of backlights to me? I don't own a mechanical keyboard so I have no idea what use those lights are except for maybe being able to see the keys in a dark room but even then I never need to look at the keyboard when I type.

>>57480248

RGB backlighting is for ricing purposes only
Solid color is for seeing better than decals in the dark

If you know anything about touch typing, then it's pretty pointless, but they include it on loads of models just because they can.

Im thinking about getting a Rosewill 9000v2 with cherry mx blue

Whats the scoop on Rosewill?

>>57480248
>being able to see the keys in a dark room but even then I never need to look at the keyboard when I type.

It's less for typing in the dark, more for gaming in the dark.

RGB is mainly aesthetic but many keyboards have different modes that light up and color code different keys depending on the game.

how did you learn to touch type and whats the best way for me to learn?

>>57480273
>>57480299
Oh, I see. Thanks for the reply.

>>57480111
Yea that too, they don't feel as refined as MX switches. A switch with the tactility of an alps and the stability of an MX would be GOAT.

>>57480287
It is a budget version of Filco keyboards

>>57480302
keybr.com

>>57480347
what makes filco better? Is it worth taking the hit to my pocketbook?

>>57480367
All mechanical keyboards with cherry switches are shit regardless of who makes them

>>57480421
thank you for correcting the record

>>57478515
RIGHT!? Who are these people buying up and obsessing over standalone numpads???

Bankers?? The only time someone has handed me a numpad in my life is at the bank to enter a PIN or something.

Bankers. That explains why these weirdos have the money.

>>57480444
Your welcome, why not buy an all american keyboard that is more reliable then some Japanese weeaboo one with crap german switches

>>57480461
Most bankers just use rubber domes and macbooks. Besides not many of them use Realforce outside of japan

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>>57480344
just a competent copy of ALPS would be great
it's too bad matias are not.

>>57480461

People who do silly things like accounting and Excel on their computers.

>>57480480
Fukka has started to re-manufacture simplified alps with the original tooling. Who knows how good it will be though?

>>57480497

.... YOU MEAN ... LIKE A BANKER ?

>>57480531

i think we should start a movement within the mechanical keyboard community to oust the numpaders as heretics and initiate a pogrom.

>>57480531

Well yes but also responsible adults who manage their own finances.

>>57480480
Even the old alps are still more wobbly than MX aren't they? A guide for the slider like what's in the MX housing would probably solve that.

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>>57480738
no not really, those old alps are pretty tight, at least on this board, my sample size of one

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Blue knockoffs.

$47 Canadian, with free shipping.

Sale ends in one hour.

Currently on a Logitech K330.

Never owned a mech.

$1100 in my bank account.

Should I pull the trigger?

>>57481057

Pls guys 20 minutes

Thinking of grabbing these for Lolita

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Miameme/32694274773.html

Probably gonna go side printed.

I'm looking for a white RGB (mech or non mech) keyboard (100% or tkl, no 60%) for my girlfriend's build. Preferably blue switches if mechanical, but I mostly just want there to be no giant logo raping her eyes or mine every time we look at it. I'm in Trumpland. $200~ limit, under $100 would be fantastic though.

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>>57471161
>>57471206
>>57472145
>>57472246
>>57472534
>>57472611
>this memeshit instead of customizable ergonomic keyboard
Oh...

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>>57482568

sup /mkg/

as a northern yuropean, are there any mechs that include äåö letters? or is there a way to get around this?

every mech kb seems to be in english layout too. i've heard of stickers but since äöå are additional buttons, are there enough buttons in a 80% kb?

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>>57482555
Truly Ergonomic - best choice for 199$

>>57482568
I'd care if there was Topre option.

>>57482586
buy this and customize it.
>>57482568
You can print keys with 3D printer, or just mark it with laser.

>>57482590
Has no face-raping logo, but also isn't white or RGB and at the top end of my budget.

>>57482601

buy what ?

>>57482596
You can put any switch in it.

>>57482606
I'm assuming the Ergodox he quoted.

>>57482606
Ergodox EZ

>>57482611
>>57482613

that thing is way out of my budget and also i'd like to get a small space saving kb such as 60% or 80%

>>57482633
>80%
>space saving
TKL has tons of wasted space, if you want all the functionality of one but with space saving get a 75%

>Budget
50€

>Location
Europe, Lithuania

>Preferred switch type
Tactile, silently clicky and softish

>Layout
American or UK

>Form factor
Preferably 100%, but could do without arrows and numpad.

>Backlight
White

Help me, /mkg/.

>>57482633
>save space
This
>>57482590

>>57482586
German here, get an ergodox and use qmk firmware. That has your letters. You could just get old mx keyboards to salvage caps and use those if you want.

>>57482633
The ergodox is super small. and you can get them for ~170€. Just not an EZ or infinity. Check out falbatech.pl.

>>57482933
Whats wrong with the EZ or infinity?

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>>57478347
>random shit just laying around to make it look more "tech"

>>57483036
They are more expensive and the infinity has more parts that can die over time. (The build quality on the EZ is pretty phenomenal though)

Looking to replace my Corsair K70 with something less "gayming", was looking at the Filco Ninja Majestouch 2 on the suggestion of LinusTechTips.

>>57483851
yes

>>57483094
that is literally how my desk looks right now

it's because I'm too lazy to put shit away, not because "le tech may mays"

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>>57483851
If you don't want to spend a lot of money you could get some mid range keyboards like Ducky One and Leopold

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are the Zealencio worth it?

anyone know any good mechanical keyboards I can get with Norwegian layout?

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I've had this Noppo choc mini with blue switches for a few weeks now and I love it. I've only ever used reds and much prefer the blues because I don't bottom them out nearly as hard. I find myself looking for excuses to type and have completely stopped using my laptop at home because it is so enjoyable. It has a hardware switch for control and capslock, having capslock act as control is awesome. Much more comfortable for keyboard shortcuts and keybinds in vidya. The same goes for the function keys, I find them much more comfortable to reach than on a standard layout. The only downside is that I make less errors on my laptops membrane keyboard but I still average roughly the same wpm. The key caps feel really nice, I've never owned such good quality ones before.

Anyway I highly recommend this board for anyone who plays games that require a lot of keybinds or wants to try blues.

>>57484382
How similar is Norwegian to Swedish and Finnish?
https://www.inet.se/
http://www.easyzone.fi/
http://www.exertis.se/start/sv/

>>57484382
Interestingly I can only find Matias keyboards in Nordic layouts. If you switch to Swedish and Finnish you can find more.
http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&path=mechanical+keyboards&lan=Nordic&ss=de&rtv=100

Now if you have the money you can get buckling spring keyboards from Unicomp in whatever layout you want and have them shipped over to you

http://www.pckeyboard.com

>>57484497
>>57484431

Thanks guys, I would prefer Norwegian layout, Swedish and Finnish differ a bit from what im used to. I'll take a look at what you've linked

Is it viable for a Brazilian to have a mechanical keyboard?

>>57484681
this is the only Brazilian place I know of that sells mech keyboards:
http://www.playerid.com.br/

I'd recommend Ducky

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>>57472256
I have no idea but i just fell for the meme. Ill let you know once i get the drop.

>>57485642
See you next year.

>>57473723
>dat Ž
should be below Đ, next to Ć

>>57482555
There are white ducky boards, KUL has a white option (TKL only) and there is a Ganss board
All I can think of at the moment
Of course there are white chinkshit boards too but they usually have giant logos

I could buy a used SteelSeries 6Gv2 or Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid-I with MX-Brown for 50€.
Are they worth it? They both appear to be fully functional and I could actually go to the seller of the cooler master and try it.

>>57486048
get the cooler master one
the steelseries has awful stock caps but you won't be able to replace them because of the nonstandard layout
for that price the rapid-I is a pretty good deal but do try out the switches first

I regret not getting a second Ducky nordic dyesub last Black Friday. Now Teraset apparently isn't selling anymore, Inet.se got 0 ducky boards and Maxfps.se got a ugly blue Ducky One only. Any other place to get a nordic Ducky One grey/blue?

I currently have a Ducky G2Pro grey/beige dyesub (MX Brown) and a Poker 2(MX Blue). Been switching back and forth between home/work, but I don't really like using the Poker 2 anymore, so I'd like to get a new full size board or a cheap TKL+mechanical numpad combo.

>Location (continent at least)
Sweden
>Preferred switch type
Probably blue. I enjoy them on my Poker 2 for typing. Did not like using Poker 2 for gaming.
>Layout
ISO (Swedish/Nordic)
>Form factor
Full size or TKL+Mech numpad combo.
Prefer a non-ricer board with dye sub or something not black.

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MFW I have an Ajazz AK33 and I find it very good all for 40$

>>57480562
ah, the (((banker adjacent)))

>>57482555
this one
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2033

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>>57484373
bump

>>57475548
kek

>>57472286
5576 series?

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Pok3r with MX Clears at the flea market for $20. the meme gods are looking after me

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>>57487541
I wonder how it ended up there?

The absurdest thing I've seen was a HHKB in a mechanic's garage. It was on eBay and the guy was selling it for like 40 bucks and he had no idea what it was since it belonged to the previous owner.

>>57487584
no clue. I've been going to the flea market for years and only now are modern mech starting to pop up. Usually it's chunk shit but today I got lucky

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>>57480111
>>57480480
>>57480738

ALPS switches are wobbly by design. It's specifically meant to reduce binding and the need for lube. It works so well they completely stopped using lube after the mid-80s.

The tightest switches you can find are space invaders but they bind like motherfuckers on offcenter presses even lubed.

2 requests plz

>Budget
<125 dollars
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
brown, blue is okay
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
numpad plz
>Backlight
plz no
>Previous/current keyboards
various OEM keyboards, most recently this:
http://www.selftrading.co.uk/files/images/compaq-keyboard.jpg

second request identical but cheaper (~60usd or less if possible) and blues

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>>57487584
I guess he saw 'Mechanical Keyboard' and assumed it was a keyboard for mechanics.

>>57488196

HHKB isn't actually mechanical though.

>>57488196
HHKB is a rubber dome, also it says Happy hacking on it. The guy even said in the description
>I have no idea why its so small,but it clearly was meant for Hacking

>>57488132
this:
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-RK-9000V2-BR/dp/B00S5E4LX0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478988495&sr=8-1&keywords=rosewill+rk9000v2

and

https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478988543&sr=8-2&keywords=tomoko+keyboard

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>>57488218
why don't you say that to my face fucker not online

>>57488627

srsly tho

Topre fags get so butthurt over that for nothing. Same with buckling spring fags when you remind them that the model M is a membrane keyboard.

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Anybody have any experience with the CM Storm QuickFire Rapid? There's a used one listed for $30 near me with blue switches, and I've been trying to replace a defective KUL ES-87 I had for half a year (got my money back).

I'd prefer brown switches, but it seems like a really good deal. As far as I can see, the keyboard has a pretty ok reputation.

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>>57488696
i don't really care

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>>57488799
is that poor keyboard cracked?

>>57488799
>don't care
>posts anyway

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>>57488826
it's just a bit rough

it was a lot better than paying $400 for a clean one

>>57488827
you don't understand

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>>57478471
anyone with HKKB that have a few keys ever so slightly tilted? like by 0.1 degree. the Amazon preview pic shows this (if you look at the E and U key). is it that way due to the switch or the keycaps being slightly misaligned? it's only noticeable on blank keycaps because there's nothing else to look at.

>>57488627
>assuming he was talking about the pro 2
>forgetting the real hhkb is a literal membrane keyboard

>>57474271
Which keyboard is this?

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>>57488951
yeah my JP was like that

the type S is better for some reason

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>>57488984
looks like the noppoo choc mini

>>57488991
So the $120 price increase is for decent build quality and foam o-rings?

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>>57471161
Looking to buy some DSA keycaps at non-extortionist prices. Most places seem to sell a full set for $100USD+ unfortunately.

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>>57489021
the only difference i can tell is a different slider and the foam rings

>>57489036
right now DSA is exclusively produced by SP. The cheapest full sets they have are 80 bucks
www.pimpmykeyboard.com

Vortex however is going be producing copies soon

>>57489036
That's how much the manufacturer charges lmao good luck

>>57489092
>>57489096
Thanks senpai

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>>57488991
>>57489021
i don't think there's any difference in build quality. I think it's the PBT keycaps that vary in quality control control between different HHKBs. they're harder to manufacture and have poor yield.

look at the keys on this PBT board. it's the price we pay for good texture feel

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>>57489092
Honestly its much cheaper to by a genuine Dolch Pac keyboard then take the keycaps from that

>>57487584
Where'd you get those reverse colour keycaps, all I can find is coloured with non-customisable text colour.

>>57489139
Tai-hao doubleshot

>>57489139
those are the default keycaps on Dolch Pac keyboards the rest are GMK colored spacebar and CYMK modifiers. All in cherry profile of course

>>57489208
>Tai-hao doubleshot
Thanks bro, they look really sick

>>57489250
the colors don't match and the build quality is worse, but its also 80 bucks cheaper so you can't really complain

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>>57489121
and yet i prefer GMK ABS

>>57489128
if you can actually find one for sale, then a board that will fit that layout

>>57488826
Which fucking keyboard?

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>>57482568
But I do use an ergodox, anon.

>>57485909
>>57486850

That's perfect actually. Will probably get two tbqhf, one for me, one for her. Thanks /mkg/entleman.

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>>57482568
Meanwhile at the home of people that ACTUALLY care about ergonomics(and work efficiency)

>>57486892
No one who put in their order has gotten them yet. If you want what seems to be a significantly quieter board, then go for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gs6CS88NtQ

>>57489342
Apple Extended Keyboard or AEK for short. It uses a proprietary interface so you have to get an active adapter

>>57489479
Or they use maltron or malt on ergodox.
Datahands are ridiculously rare.

>>57489479
Someone sold one of those on the deskthority market place for a $1000 not too long ago

>>57489530
Sure, if they want to type slower and still strain themselves a bit.
Also isn't some enthusiast trying to remake them?

>>57482568
that static piece of shit? "customizable"? I bet it doesn't even have on-board hardware for remapping and key macros, and you think it's more efficient and customizable than what I posted?

>>57489578
you obviously never looked into the concept of the malt layout. Try it out on an ergodox, you barely ever leave the homerow and you don't move your hands. There's over 7k words you can write in malt without leacing the home row.

affordable datahands would be interesting but probably still more handstrain than maltron desu.

>>57489602
qmk firmware has that and there is a teensy2 in there so i am not sure what you are memeing about.

>>57489635
You still have to move your fingers and do lots of pressing. Enjoy tendonitis

>>57484373
>>57486892
What the fuck is it? Hipster mod?

Where my Apex M800 bros at?

Is the Cooler Master QuickFire XT discontinued?

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201061

$30 cherry brown KB deal is back get em before they go like last time.

>>57489677
See >>57489488

>>57489729
>that keyboard
Hipster shit, got it. Will avoid.

>>57489671
pressing your fingers up and sideways is arguably worse than moving your hand occasionally.

>>57489759
They're literally just clips put on to switches to quieten the bottom out & upstroke. If you don't care to make your board quieter, then don't bother.

>>57489759
damping materials to lower the sound your mechanical keyboard make is nothing new. Even corsair sells their version of silent switches

>>57489646
so you opened it up and soldered something in that allows for setting up macros in a complicated and inefficient manner? shit keyboard if you have to do that for something as simple as macro support.

>>57489766
Only if you're shit at arguing friend

>>57489834
Is there something wrong with you? Teensy comes with it

http://falbatech.pl/prestashop/index.php?id_product=57&controller=product&id_lang=2#/

>>57489776
I care about putting unneeded shit in the switches of my keyboard that will probably break.

Apparently they just ignore the stabilizers also, neato.

If you want to limit the travel of your keys that bad, Topre does it better than anybody with their travel limiters.

>>57489834
The teensy2 has been the controller for the ergodox from day one. Not sure what the hell you're talking about m8.

>>57489850
You can test it out yourself. put one rubberband per finger between each finger and your thumb and move them up a few times. That hurts over time.
>>57489834
What? There's a flashing hole in the EZ for firmware changes and the teensy is in there from the start. and if you make your own ergodox it's the same. Shit's pretty damn simple.

>>57489888
Part of the point with these clips is they don't limit the travel as much as o-rings, and aren't as mushy. Not sure how you think these clips could break in use.

>>57489909
>tiny ultra thin clear plastic clips
>sourced from Chinkland
>How could it possibly break!

>>57489950
Don't be a clumsy gorilla? I don't know what to tell you m8.

>>57489964
Or go with the much smarter idea of not buying that shit.

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>>57489987

Anyone tried any of those Hall effect switch keyboards?
Saw it on massdrop, wondering if I should get a chink one on alibaba.

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>>57490087

I heard the backlighting on Ducky Ones has shit QC. Should I get another brand with backlighting, or just get the PBT non-lit version?

>>57490535
I think the problem is Cherry themselves are having QC issues so any company using them is having issues.

>>57490550
That's even more concerning. I was hoping to finally take the plunge into mech keys, but if Cherry's acting like a loose dumper...

>>57490578
I feel for the cherry MX meme and bought one as my first keyboard. When it first arrived one of the switches kept getting stuck and after googling I found that it was a common problem on cherry mx blues

>>57490578
Well that's what happens when you don't use American made LEDs.

I'm not sure where the LED Cherry switches come from so.

>>57490535
One the newer Ducky keyboards they fixed this issue my having to separate PCBs, one for the LEDs the other for the switches

What's the point of "thick" PBT keycaps as opposed to normal pbt keycaps? Is it worth paying 15 dollars more for a set of thick keycaps instead of normal ones? Do they differ aesthetically?

>>57490732
Different sound & feel. That's about it.

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Is this a good mechanical keyboard for a first time buyer? I didn't want to spend too much on it and I really like the looks and functionality.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1419

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I dunno what a good wpm/cpm score is.

Here's how I did on my pok3r rgb w browns. I know that percentile-wise this is good but how do the /mkg/ goons do?

>>57491283
I got 6 million characters per second step it up fatty

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>>57491283
I'm self taught so my form is probably pretty shit

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>>57491570
I killed six million jews in only a few dozen g̶a̶s̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶m̶b̶e̶r̶s̶ showers. Step it up, Untermensch.

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>>57491706
>g̶a̶s̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶m̶b̶e̶r̶s

why is that word crossed out?

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I would like to read some anecdotes from /mkg/ regarding their experiences with 122 key keyboards.

I have become tired of constantly having to use shortcuts while working and browsing. I'm hitting the shortcuts for copy, past, cut, undo, redo, find, close, maximize, and switch windows hundreds of times a day. It's exhausting. I have actually begun to wear out the left ctrl key switch on my AT101W.
I have thought about getting a keyboard with some function keys to the side and mapping those keys to perform these actions.

I am not really such a fan of buckling springs keyboards, so I don't think I'd go with one of the big Model M or F terminal keyboards. Any other suggestions, possibly with black Alps key switches?

>>57475809
I hate the look of the dots and shit.

>>57491725
I̶'̶m̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶f̶a̶g̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶m̶a̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶t̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶4̶c̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶ ̶d̶u̶m̶b̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶j̶o̶k̶e̶.̶ ̶E̶i̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶a̶y̶,̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶.̶ ̶

>>57491834
Y̶o̶u̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶s̶s̶.

>>57491848
Fͬ͊͆̃̎͑ͮ̿́ͨ̑̅̾̎ͤͨ͏҉̵̖̩͚̮͓̦̘̼̦̺̗̠̦̀͢ư̶͎̗̞̭̪̙͉͈͙̣͇͍̤̖ͧ̽̍͑͊ͦc͇͎̹͖̼̼̟ͨ̎̄̓̂ͦ̏̿̉̓̌̋ͬͩ̌̈̾͛ͭ͘͜k̸͈̫̮̦͔͋́ͧͫ̓ͧ̀͗ͬ̈̌̓ͨ͋ͮ͗̀́͟ͅi̴̫̤͇̳͍͖̞͉͇̺͖ͤ̅ͦ̿̀͊͐̆̎̅̀̏̑̚̕n̙̭̤̻͌̅̌̔́͟͝g̹̦͇̦͈͚͓͍̽ͣͤ̔͐̔̍ͦ̊̍͆̈́̇͗͌͑́ͅ ̡̛̬̰̝̫̰͓͔̬̮̜̙͓͙̪ͮ̋̔̊̏̌̕̕d̫̤̰̥͓̻̱͚͉̞̳̤͙͎ͨ̋͂̓͑̂ͯ̒̊ͤ̂͆̔͂̀́͡ͅe̴̵̢̤̺̘̠͚̖̗ͣͭ͐͆̂̍̿ͨ̾ͭ̐̀̚̚ͅạ̴̖̗̝̘̿ͪͪ̃ͯ̈́̅ͩ̇̎̑̍ͩ̅͊̀̚̚͜͝l̗͎̱̬͎̾͐̌͛̅ͯͣ͂̄̿͊͊̒ͣ̅͑̿̕ ̌́͛ͩ͂̓͑̇҉̛̕͏̨̙̣͈̫͓̖̜̲̞̣̘͓w̶̨̘͙̲͙̙̮̦͈͎̭͈̙̝͖͚̆ͫͧ̌ͨ͠ͅi͉͈͙̱̳͇̩̮̻̭̘̮̖̳̎ͧͮ̑̑ͯ̓̏̈́̆̃̒̑͒̎ͫ̐̚͟͡ͅt͇̭̦͈̦̤̹͖̮̦̟̝ͭͬ̈͊ͦͫ̑̓̋ͤ͑̓̄̚͠h̩̲̼̻̞͖ͣ̌͊̎̽̅͑̑̍̐͛̔̿̒ͩͩ̑̀́̚͢͟͞ͅ ̛̪̙̯̘̭̺̅͛̾ͣ̈́̋ͭͨ͒̆̽́͡ȋ̴̡̗͍̝̳̻͉̘̗̪͇̌̈̑̈́̒̈́̑̾t̛̮̗̞̥̰̤͓̩͎̗̤͐̇̍ͣͯ̊͊ͩ͑ͣͦͨ̓̕͟͞͞,̸̷̠͉̜̗̦̜̭̥͚͗̒̉̽̽͋̋̊ͫ͂̋͢͠͞ ̷̡̻̹̣͉͓̠̤̗͍̭ͭ͆ͬ͛͛̆̉̎͒͐͗̐̓̄ͪ̄̚͡͞ć̷̈́̅̋ͩ̅̅̃̊̐̏ͦ̏͑̐̔̾̈́͏҉̨̧̳̻̦̼͈̤̭̫̻̙̖̙͇u̘̠̳͚̪͎̼̮͙̦̭̰̗̔̀ͣ̏̇͊̽̉ͫ͂̀͢͝͡ñ̴͓͈̩̪̈́̄̈͆̀ͧ͋̀͢t͍̻̪̲͚̭̮͉̩̅ͤ̿̈̃̄̄ͣ͛̾̀ͣͧͦ́͘.̨̠̻͔̗͓̖̞̿ͣ̌ͫ̽̾ͨ̈́ͤ͒̇̊͗͋̃ͫͭ̚͜͢͝ ̶̗̲̮͈̠̲̭̯͔̲͚̙̤̌̏̈́͑̿̆ͯ͗̓ͤ͆̿̃̔̚͘͢͟

I've learned from buying these things that I can't fucking stand it when the letter and symbol keys are blank, but I prefer the modifier/special keys (like escape) blank or pimped, and I don't really care for either laser or printed on keys, but from the side of the key, it looks okay.

I really want an 80% profile keyboard instead of 60%, I really can't stand these anymore because I use the function keys and arrow keys all the time when navigating/playing games.

I guess 60% is good for programmers, but they suck for just about everything else.

I still have an original KBD poker, wondering what to get next in the future...

Any suggestions?

>>57491834
[s]who the fuck cares its an anonymous image board[/s]

>>57491762
I just made a layer in qmk with all my shortcuts/macros

>>57491872
F

>>57491889
ɯnɯ ɹn :ʇuiɥ ʇuiɥ

>>57491901
no u

>>57491900
Did you use the extra keys on the left side or the 2nd row of function keys across the top? Are they comfortable to reach?

Also another question: have there been any 122 key units made with a trackpoint built in?

>>57491885
So would this be worth getting?

https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard
https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard
https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard
https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard

>>57491969
You may as well get an ergodox at that point imo.

>>57472961
>not using aftermarket blanks

>>57491762
You can get 122 key keyboards with space invader switches

https://www.elecshopper.com/memorex-telex-122-key-with-black-clicky-nmb-hitek-switches.html

https://www.elecshopper.com/nmb-pc122-keyboard-with-black-clicky-switches.html

>>57473572
got a Pro JP Type-S
the legends match that of a 102 key Japanese board
still like it

>>57474427
i am enjoying it but want some replacement caps
>>57474680
no chatter for 50 million

>>57474916
Any good Youtube videos that tell how to make keyboards?

>>57491992
I was looking at your choice, but the two halves don't even attach, right? So it looks less portable overall.

>>57478471
>too poor to have 1.5mm caps
If that's an aftermarket spacebar who is it from and are there any defects?
>>57488991
Are you able to deal with the mislegended keycaps?
>>57490550
>>57490578
Bought a switch tester from mechanicalkeyboards.com and I can tell you that I'd always take the Gateron equivalent of a Cherry switch. They're so much smoother. I would like to try out Zealios before I try to build a keyboard. Think I'd like to buy an XMIT Hall Effect first.

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>>57492216
Yes. But if the goal is a more ergonomic board which is split, might as well go all the way.

Until this becomes available that is.

https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/designing-a-custom-topre-board-t11734.html

>>57492267
>https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/designing-a-custom-topre-board-t11734.html
Is this designed for cripples?

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>>57492301
It's designed for more customizability and to be more ergonomic.

>>57492397
So cripples?

>>57492461
The whole point of not just using a shit rubber dome keyboard is better typing feel. So following that goal of improving the typing experience isn't "for cripples" you fucking mongoloid.

>>57492397
It's not really ergonomic when it isn't customized for the specific user.
But mostly it's ugly.

>>57492494
You don't have to be offended about being crippled.

Anons check this out
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/78-nerd-108-pcb-ver15.html
Does it say
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Archive
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>>57492500
>when it isn't customized for the specific user
But that's the whole point. The columns & the thumb cluster can be adjusted to whatever fits best.

>>57492516
that is weird? I wonder why?
Even going to other product pages yields similar results. This one is in Chinese
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/113-nerd-60-ver20-pcb.html

>>57492516
yes

did you just give me a botnet????

>>57492516
this page
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/119-bluetooth-option-set-for-nerd.html

has this link
http://www.FyLitCl7Pf7kjQdDUOLQOuaxTXbj5iNG.com

>>57492516
>gons
Any orders put there would just be throwing your money away to a scammer.

>>57492610
>2 years to ship
I guess you're not lying.
I wonder how fast it ships if you don't have an assembled keyboard.

>>57492610
really I was interested in their 40% PCBs

>>57489479
Jesus, that's some Ghost in the Shell-type looking shit.

>>57492620
wait really where does it say that?

>>57492663
Just take a look here, multiple people saying they've been scammed:

geekhack org/index.php?board=148.0

BUMP LIMIT HIT
NEW THREAD
>>57492692
>>57492692
>>57492692

>>57492036
Very interesting! And fairly affordable too. I think I will go towards that.

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>>57492754
But the missing key cap will be a pain to replace since they are space invader switches, unless you don't use right alt all that much

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here's your keyboard, anon