/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>missed out on the HD6xx
Someone please stop me.

I bought a Razer Kraken headset today. The guy at the store said it was the best they had under seventy euros, and it felt comfortable on my head.
I tried covering the tacky glowing logo with tape, but it's bright enough to shine right through. I'm not really sure what to do about that, except try to find some thicker tape. Other than that, the phones are not too bad.
My computer's USB audio output is way too loud, though. What software can I get to replace Windows volume control? Needs more granularity at low volumes.

>>57475723
>buying worse headphones than the 6XX

Anyone here used an E17(K) in combination with a T5p (Generation 1/2)?

Got myself a T5p this week, and planning on getting a mobile amp + dac.

>>57475723

Just w8 m8, massdrop reintroduces drops all the fucking time

>>57475352
Someone explain headphone sensitivity to a stupid fuck.

Anon from last thread about Presonus HD7, are they similar in sound signature to the Samson SR950? I remembered them from a previous recommendation that led me to buy the Samsons.

>>57475744
It can't be helped, I know both HD600 and HD650 owners, both adamant about their choice.

>>57475924
Yeah, but this shipment should be on Christmas? There are almost 25k requests for the drop again. With the shitshow that was this one, I don't think we're getting it this year.

>>57475946
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Headphones#Impedance.2Fresistance_and_sensitivity

>>57475744
Nope. At least HD650 is the 2nd best headphone on the market.

>>57476130
wrong.

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>>57476130

>>57476142
HD650 is very neutral. Outperforms HD800 and every FOTM meme kilobuck flagship headphone.
>>57476161
I don't really give a shit about build quality, I've got disposable income, if it breaks outside of warranty, I'll get repair or get another.

>>57476344
650 is much better than the 600.

>>57475352
>budget
<100
>location
US
>source
phone
>type of headphone
earbud, wireless
>comfort
not horrible to wear, but not a huge concern
>sound signature
flat, maybe a bit of bass
>past headphones
im basically interested in something along the lines of a wireless hm-400 here, I love those but I would really prefer a wireless set for when i work out. im tired of using the cheap 10 dollar headphones I just keep in my gym bag

>>57476809
whoops fuck my shit up
i mean hifiman re-400
my bad

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>>57475352
What are the comfiest headphones? Don't care about sound quality, as long as it's decent by normie standards, and the most I want to spend is $100.

Is HD600 vs HD650 a memest fight of all?

>>57476348
No, it isn't. HD600 is slightly better.

This is objectively speaking, it's okay to have a preference for the HD650 you pleb.

>>57477845
>HD600 is slightly better.
no it's not, it's less accurate.
>This is objectively speaking, it's okay to have a preference for the HD650 you pleb.
you're actually retarded. stop posting, reddit trash.

Note: I'm probably buying a separate microphone (currently looking at the blue snowball ice) so a headset recommendation is something I don't want.

>Budget
100-200$ not flexible
>Location
Canada
>Source
Desktop PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
So that they don't slide off my head every time I look down.
>Sound signature
Neutral, I listen to a lot of different shit (jrock, metal, classic rock)
>Past headphones
Logitech G430. Let me address my current issues with them and what I want on my new headphones.
1. They break so easily. This is my 3rd pair in 2(?) years I think. I'm tired of them. They're too quiet as well.

2. They slide off every time. Looking down means I have to readjust them every second and same thing with trying to lean back on my chair. I don't want a headset that makes me sweat near my ears when I wear them.

3. Sound quality feels like it could be better.

I was also looking at the sennheiser HD 598 but they're too expensive and I've read that they are really shit at playing anything other than classical music.

Thanks for the help guys I really appreciate it. Hope that I gave enough info.

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ATH-M50x are amazing.

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>>57477883
>>57477845
>>57476348
>>57476344
>Senshills saying go back reddit

>>57477962
AKG faggots need to go back to narutoforums.

>>57477901
they really are

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can someone tell me what genres of music fit each type of headphone sound signature?

I went from 'basshead' headphones, where I listened to electronic and hiphop, to V-Shaped, I now listen to mostly prog rock and metal.

Basshead
>Earphones for fans of heavy bass who value bass impact, depth, and power above all else. Because heavily enhanced mid-bass often results in bloated, boomy sound, we focused on finding earphones that provide deep, rumbling sub-bass and maintain decent clarity. In addition to the boosted bass, some of these sets emphasize treble for a v-shaped sound.

Warm and smooth
>These earphones are characterized by moderately enhanced bass and level or laid-back treble. Emphasis specifically on the mid-bass region often results in rich, full-bodied sound.

V-Shaped
>Enhanced bass and treble make for an exciting, v-shaped sound, providing a lively sonic experience reminiscent of the “Rock” equalizer setting. Due to the way the human loudness contour works, at lower volumes a mild v-shape can actually present a fairly balanced listening experience.

Balanced
>Emphasizing no particular area of the frequency spectrum, balanced headphones provide the most clear and accurate sound and can range from slightly warm to slightly bright in tone. Balanced sets can also be mildly mid-centric when the bass and treble both roll off at the limits.

>>57477973
One of the few good things still about 4chan is you can tell obvious shills like Sennshills to fuck off still.

Fuck off back to your safe place headfi/reddit forum.

>>57478368
face it AKG shill, your shitty weebphones have gone back to irrelevancy after the rampant shilling for them died down again.

>>57475352
Sennheiser HD202 or AKG 451? I mostly listen to jazz, hip-hop and funk. My sources are just a laptop my smartphone.

>>57478376
>LinusShillTips paraded my pet headphones!
>I'm validated by my purchase now!

Not really aware of shilling for AKG. See the mega shilling of the HD6xx right now.

>>57478417
>being this mad that the 6XX are going to completely destroy the K7XX sales
>Not really aware of shilling for AKG
yeah it's pretty obvious how new you are. back to plebbit you go.

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>>57477000
AKG k240s look comfy, sound comfy, and feel comfy. Atleast the k240 mkiis do for me.

>>57478437
>mad about Senshills shilling
Not really I'm not buying their shit or on the shillroll of apologizing for the HD800/ignoring the HD700.

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>>57477973
AKG makes some pretty nice headphones tbqh. I have both senshillers and they sound good, but they will never get the comfy of the AKG.

>>57478476
>being mad enough about anyone with better headphones than you to call them sennshills

My headphones fell down and I've halted the fall by grabbing one side inside the earcup. Is it possible to damage any parts of it due to doing this, or are the internals shielded from such damage due to the foam layers and the plastic cage before the membrane?

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Got these from MD recently as i wanted closed headphones for work.

8/10 "they're okay"

>>57478499
>better headphones
>paying $1500 for headphones you have to take apart and add random bits of foam too
>senshills consider this a good thing

>>57478496
not a headphone on the planet that can match the hd800 for comfort.

>>57478514
>having a flagship that is unanimously considered trash

>>57478520
>having a flagship that is unanimously considered trash
The k812? Another headphone that shit because it's not a hd800.

What are the best on-ears for less than like 50-60 dollars?

Is it really the PortaMemes?

>>57478568
k812 is garbage for its own reasons.

>Budget
$80-$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone (Nexus 5X)
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
closed?
>Comfort level
I want them to be fairly comfortable
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
NVX XPT 100

I've been looking at the Shure SE215, Sennheiser Momentum, Onkyo E700M, and the Trinity Delta Hybrid. Are these good or are there better options? I listen to a lot of HipHop and indie rock. I plan on using the new iems to commute to school and work via Bus, or when I'm hanging on campus.

>>57478576
Not having Sennheiser on the side being the big one.

>>57478598
k812 being garbage has nothing to do with sennheiser, AKG just don't know how to make a decent headphone, k612 pro must have been accidental.

>>57478502
Anyone?

>>57478602
There's nothing particularly bad about the fr graph. I haven't heard them so that's what I'm looking at.

>>57478612
awful distortion, treble is all over the place. spiky garbage. midbass is boomy. it's like a beyer t1 with more treble peaks and more distortion.

Looking at some response graphs, Hifiman has no idea how dynamic drivers work, huh...

Hard to believe HE-350's from MD would be any better.

>>57476809
the new apple one m8

>Budget
Under $150
>Location
Australia
>Source
Astro mixamp and xbox one
>Type of headphone
Over ear preferably
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound profile
Doesn't matter too much
>Past headphones
Astro m80 w2 west one

>>57478617
>treble peaks
Seen the hd800?

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>>57478708
i have, and these are much worse.

>>57475352
Being comfy with my a900x

>>57478609
Why are you being so sensitive?

>do they work?
if yes, then keep using them
if no, buy a new pair

>>57478713

%THD+noise measured better at infidelity.

>>57477888
Superlux hd668b are great for gaming at $60. They are really bass heavy though and you cant have one earcup off wothout discomfort.

>>57479164
They look OK for 60$. I feel that I should put more into headphones that will make me satisfied for a long time. Bass heavy headphones also turn me off because I don't listen to anything with that much bass.

>>57477883
>no it's not, it's less accurate.
That's wrong you fucking retard.

>>57479215
please stop posting your misinformation.

>>57479220
see:
>>57479220

>>57479215
>>57479224
>bright glary shit
>more accurate than 650
lol

>>57479230
The HD600 and HD650 are really close in sound signature, the HD600 is just more neutral.

If you describe the HD600 as bright and glary shit, the same applies to the HD650, and those descriptors are not the case for both headphones.

Please kill yourself.

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>>57477415
>memest fight of them all

>memest

>>57479244
>the HD600 is just more neutral.
you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
>If you describe the HD600 as bright and glary shit, the same applies to the HD650
wrong again, the 650 has a smoother upper midrange/treble region.

i don't understand why you bother posting when you have absolutely no idea on what you're trying tryign to argue here.

>>57479261
HD600 is more neutral according to diffuse field equalization, that is all.

Argument's over, you lost. Time to move on.

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>>57479299
except that's wrong, you fucking retard.

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>>57479311
kek

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>>57479333
>measurements on home-made HATS
>relevant
kek

>>57479359
rtings' measurements aren't proven to be accurate.

I would use them for TV reviews, but headphones? No.

>>57479390
and you think your source is reputable or 'proven to be accurate'?

fuck off, rtings use proper equipment so they are already more credible.

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>>57479390
>rtings
>not one of the most objective review site out there
Sennshills pls

>>57475723
I regret posting this.

Thinking of getting my first STAX, which model should I get? I don't mind spending somewhere between $700 to 800.

>>57479672
LNS

Should I buy my STAX tomorrow?

>>57479678
Which model is that? I can't find it in the STAX site.

>>57479756
Lambda Nova Signature, best Lambda series from STAX.

>>57479800
Looks like an obsolete model. Anything new to recommend?

>>57479933
discontinued, not obsolete. new lambas are shit.

>>57479672
Have you actually heard any Stax? Try to pick something cheap to start with, preferably from someplace with a lenient return policy or secondhand.

>>57479938
>new lambas are shit.
The lambdas don't really change like that.

>>57479946
L-500/L-700 are very different.

>>57479672
Why would anyone do that when an HD600/650 and decent amplifier can perform better and is more robust and flexible?

>>57480044
>HD600
stop

>>57479401
'Proper equipment' doesn't mean accurate.

Hello /hpg/! I'm looking for headphones suitable for music (.flac collection isn't getting its full use with my shitty headset) and games. If anyone has a mic recommendation I would like to hear it. Are the Antlion Modmics any good, or would I be better off with a desktop mic?

I'm mainly wondering if the more expensive headphones are legitimately worth it. My budget is a $100-200 ideally, but if the quality increase is substantial enough I would be willing to pay more. I'm just uninterested I'm frivolously purchasing the "best" when I can get something nearly as good for less.

I will only be using them with a desktop computer and will be shipping to the US. I'm definitely looking for circumaurals. Comfort is very important to me.

I'm not sure what's good for games (a larger soundstage?) and I want to prioritize audio quality for music, but it would be great if I had something that could perform well for both.

Is a neutral sound necessarily better? Or is it all entirely subjective? I like the idea of it. I hate flat bass and muffled sounding highs.

Thanks in advance, gonna check out the archives in the meantime.

>Budget
100$ (or less now that we are almost at Black Friday).
>Location
Third World but I'm buying online so it's irrelevant to the post.
>Source
PC
>Type
Over pref., definitely not Ins
>Open or closed
Any is fine but pref. closed.
>Comfort level
Soft enough for listening for hours, maybe not extremely heavy.
>Sound signature
Neutral pref., if not then warm. I will use it for a lot of stuff
>Past headphones
Cheap Sony stuff like the ZX100 and their In-ears.

I'm looking for something that after 1 or 2 years still works properly
(the last ZX100s lasted me 2-3 years, no idea how).

I'm interested in the HM5s but they apparently squish heads and break easily and I don't trust XPT100 to last me for long either seeing how cheap they look. Already tried the 280s but they're a bit heavy on the bass for me and I'm looking mostly for something neutral and "boring". Any other alternative?
How's the M40x?

(The reason for the low budget is that I'm also buying an audio interface)

>>57480074
rin choi's measurements aren't accurate just because rtings measurements don't agree with your cherrrypicked shit.

Why do my sony 950bt sound like shit when I enter a skype call????

>>57480094
rtings' have no documentation on how they perform their measurements, Rin Choi does.

HD600 is more neutral, deal with it.

>>57480104
>being this delusional
well whatever, you enjoy your inaccurate trash.

>>57480104
They have multiple pictures and explanation of their set up on their site dumbass.

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>tfw missed it
>tfw easy 5 million

So, I really fucking love the Takstar Hi2050. I bought one pair a few years ago for desktop, and I want to get another one for work, but they don't seem to be produced anymore.

Anyone have a good alternative? They're just so comfy for me.

How much were the 6XX?

>>57480681
$200 USD plus shipping

>>57475946
How much do you want know about sensitivity?

>>57479953
I don't think they broke out what could be called the Stax house sound. The only strong outlier to that in about two decades is the 007.

>>57480076
>wondering if the more expensive headphones are legitimately worth it
it is all entirely subjective
>Is a neutral sound necessarily better?
entirely subjective
However, people do tend to prefer a "neutral" sound. There's a tangent I could go on about neutrality and "sound quality" but...

Sound balance is very strongly related to "quality", but parametric EQ makes this the one aspect you have high control over. This does makes expensive headphones dubious if they are primarily described by the acoustic EQ. Before you ask, soundstage is heavily shaped by the tonal balance.
If you aren't interested in using a parametric EQ, you have to find the headphone that fits your desired balance best.
As for neutral headphones that are lower priced, AKG K612 is first. K612 is overall one the more insensitive headphones in production. If you don't want to deal with that, a low-Z model of the DT880 pro or one of HD518/558/598 whatever.


>>57480091
>Black Friday
That happens in third world countries?
>HM5/XPT100
Same base model.
>How's the M40x?
Kinda like the V6/7506, another option. Somewhat spiky in the highs, not the most even bass response.
I suppose I would call it somewhat flat, coarsely speaking.

>>57477000
Brainwavz HM5
sound good too

>Budget $50 - 100
>Location Canada
>Source Laptop
>Type of headphone full
>Open or closed doesn't matter
>Comfort level I just need them to be light

>>57480770
>That happens in third world countries?
By that I meant I was going to buy it through Amazon or another different webpage in case they don't offer any deals.

>Kinda like the V6/7506
Ah yeah I checked those two, but I heard both suffer from a spike somewhere on the trebble side.

Which one do you recommend just in case I decide to go with Sony instead of the HM5 cans.

STAX 4170 for 950

Y/n?

>>57480770
>The only strong outlier to that in about two decades is the 007.
The Omega was a similar departure from the house sound as well, but the 009 seem to be shaping the 'tweaked' house sound they're going for with the new lineups.

>a low-Z model of the DT880 pro
Pro only come in 250ohm, you'd be thinking of the premiums.

Quasi headphone related but does anyone have the video of the old guy reviewing the expensive headphones and just taking them off and looking like he's gonna off himself?

>>57481477
Tyll from InnerFidelity
Ultrasone Edition 10

Is there a new meme budget headphone or is it still the sennheiser HD598 or ATH-M50X?

Advice?
>200$
>USA
>computer/ fiio x3II portable audio player
>ear covering
>closed
>high
>don't know much, but good for metal? aggressive bass and soaring high vocals are both important

>>57479800
The new L-700 is already better than the LNS. Less fussy fit as well.

>>57481695
Yeah, no.

>>57481511
Neither of those
558 modded or M40x with HM5 pads

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>>57481348
The Ω follows the free field curve just like the lambdas.

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>>57478474
I can't agree more fellow AKG K240

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>>57478570
KSC75 with parts express lightweight headband. I have both that and Koss Porta Pros. I still prefer the bass on the Porta Pro. KSC75 doesn't have that nice bass the PP has.

>budget
preferably around $50, definitely <100
>location
US
>source
phone, laptop when traveling
>type of headphone
wired earbuds
>comfort
pretty important to me because my ears are small and putting anything large in them is very painful
>sound signature
very neutral; mostly for piano recordings
>past headphones
they were some klipsch earbuds that i loved to death. i have 598s for real listening but i need new earbuds.

K612, K702 or K712?

If I don't mind overpaying a bit for convenience, is a Creative Soundblaster X7 alright to drive a K7XX and some cheap speakers ?

I'm in a headphone shop in Akiba. The ad2000x have a sticker that says it's recommended by the shop owner. How are these? They sound nice to me on my phone.

>>57482560
How does vocals compare the HD600 or HD650 vs AD2000X? Can you try the Sennheisers in shop?

>>57482560
Yodobashi Camera?

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>>57482565
>thinking vocals are handled somewhat specially
>thinking vocals are all at the same frequency range
>listening to music with vocals

>>57482604
AD2000X is a headphone specifically for Japanese vocals. Was only wondering how it compares to HD6x0's? I wanted to know the answer and you're not helping..

>>57482604
I'm literally in chemo after seeing that image the first time.

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>>57482614
I hope this isn't real

>>57482637
hi

>>57482614
Compared to HD 6xx-series it has less bass, less neutral response with forward midrange to emphasize vocals. Treble and upper mids are recessed and colored. They are much more sensitive than the Sennheisers, generally comfortable but this is subjective. I dislike their odd sound signature but like the comfort. I also think the lower end AD-series is nicer sounding.

>>57479258
memies? MaMaYmiest? MÖÖmiest_ or mooomiest?

Ath-m70x are bae desu

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or should i just get some new PortaPros

>>57482604
>implying Penderecki doesn't love vocals

>>57481757
No, yeah.

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>>57479261
>>57479244
> quarreling about minor sound differences of two overrated and meme headphones
Sasuga /hpg/

>>57481029
V6/7506 are basically the same headphone. Some internal wiring change, a different sticker from a different internal division of Sony. The acoustics are the same.

>>57482162
>free field curve
What? None of the Stax do. By whose measurements could you end up thinking that?
They don't follow a specific head gain target too intimately, but if anything, the old Lambdas (such as Lambda Pro) are closer to a diffuse field target.

>>57483489
If you use the stax ED-1, sure. Otherwise stax uses free-field.

>>57483540
Not the same anon but how? It looks nothing like it and is closer to DF than FF on all measurements I've seen. Stax "house sound" isn't really accurate on any target, just their own type of coloration.

>>57483723
The ED-1 is basically just a one trick EQ box, and it changes the lambda pro into a diffuse field headphone essentially. If I recall correctly the curve used in it was developed by comparing/adjusting it against speakers in a diffuse field.

So I discovered that my Amazon employee discount code can't be used with the pair of ATH-AD900X since it's sold by a third party and all the other Audio-technica headphones can be used, I'm thinking about just using it on a pair of HD598's, I guess in any case I'll do another form

>Budget
$150, discount code is 10% off of Amazon-fulfilled orders
>Location
USA
>Source
MSI Laptop, planning on getting a DAC in the future but not this moment
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I'd prefer not be a death-squeeze on my head, comfort is a must
>Sound signature
First high-end headphones so I don't have a prefrence, I guess neutral
>Past headphones
Some turtlebeach xbox headset, not worth mentioning

Going to be used for both gaming and music if it helps

>>57483743
I know ED-1, it's an external equalizer with one preset. I just don't see the supposed free field response of the Lambdas.

>>57483896
What graph are you going by as the free field curve then? Unless it's from Bruel & Kjaer it's not necessarily going to be comparable to the FR graph of the Ω here >>57482162

Is there a similar priced HD 681 replacement?
I don't even know if I want to get an upgrade or anything, are the other superlux ones any decent?

What amplifier do you buy as an european?? All good amps seem to be from usa, except for smsl.

>>57482543
>is a Creative Soundblaster X7 alright to drive a K7XX and some cheap speakers ?

>K7XX
Yes.

>Cheap Speakers
Passive? God no
Active? Yeah sure

>>57482725
688B if youre going to mod them
662 EVO if youre not

>>57484160
Yeah. Either another HD 681, a HD 668B, or a 662 EVO

662 is the most flat and clean sounding well known superlux

>>57484381
>God no

I mean, it's still a 2*~35W with the "limited edition", it should be enough for smaller bookshelf speaker, no ?

Best DAC/amp for around 80€?

>>57483723
>>57483540
>diffuse field headphone
>the curve used in it was developed by comparing/adjusting it against speakers in a diffuse field.
Somehow I get the sense you don't well appreciate the significance of "free" or "diffuse".
A diffuse sound field is defined by equal amplitude given any orientation (altitude and azimuth) towards the listener. Stated in a different manner, it means the average measured response from a speaker placed on all positions on the surface of an imaginary sphere around the listener. The generation method isn't critical here.

>free field
Part of the Stax sound is a peak around 1-1.4 kHz and another around 9-10kHz. Relative to the average directional result, the frontal incidence has a minor cancellation slightly above 1 kHz from shoulder reflection, and another from the auricle around 8-11kHz.
Stax in general overshoot the average magnitude in the midrange, and some even exceed the average gain in the high treble. The resultant curve with the inverse frontal response applied makes the headphone deviation from target even more pronounced.

>from Bruel & Kjaer
BKSV makes many products, many couplers you can put a headphone on.
This one, Artificial Ear Type 4153 (IEC 60318-1 6cc coupler), doesn't have a particular free field curve associated with it. The measurement here is not for the sake of accuracy, but consistency
Type 4153 is a visibly poor model of the pinna, and would relate poorly to human derived results above 1-2 kHz or so.

>>57484492
Oh sorry, I was thinking that the X7 was just one of those normal Creative soundcards that you just chuck in your case

Yeah no that should drive speakers fine. In fact its kinda overkill for headphones.

>>57484726
Well, it's mostly for the fact that it has both USB and optical, and the fact that it can drive speakers is a benefit for me, since I'll want to replace my crappy logitech 2.1 that I grabbed for free.

>>57484752
There are plenty of DACs with optical and USB
several SMSL dacs have them
and you can power most studio monitors with a cheap Lepai or Nobsound amp. Like ~$10-$20 bucks cheap. They sound fine too.

Those creative soundcards/interfaces/whateverthefucks are always a complete and utter waste of money if youre just using it for music.

Their only real redeeming factor is for 'muh vidya' and virtual surround sound shit.

>>57484399
ya i got new pads for the 668b and im pretty satisfied. comes with a carrying bag so thats a plus

What's the best headphone for a bad-ass dude like me who listens to Rap?

>>57485656
Price range?

>>57485669
$200

>>57485682
Beats by Dre

>>57485682
Beyerdynamic DT 770
Though if you want a bit more isolation in trade for less comfort, get the Audio Technicha M40X [not m50x] and Brainwavz HM5 Pads

>>57485699
troll

>>57479261
600 is more neutral than the 650 you fucking mong. That anon is correct.

>>57484557
fiio e10k. It's a sexy little amp. Drives my 600's perfectly and it has a bass boost switch in case you want to get crunk my dude.

>>57486106
actually disgusting.

Are the new Gibson-owned Fidelio X2s still plagued with quality control issues or did they sort that shit out?

>>57486234
That issue was totally random dude. I had two pairs of Woox and bith of them were defective.

>>57484399
>>57484417
Honest question here, why do people suggest HD662EVO's but not HD681EVO's?

Hello, what are the best headphones I could get for around £70-£80? They're just going to be used with my phone for music.

Any and all advice would be very appreciated. Thanks.

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>>57486106
weird choices

>>57486909
How so?

>>57486959
I'd just use a dedicated headphone amp
Your dac just might be better actually

>>57486106
>chi-fi DAC
>>57486909
>chi-fi amp clone of a terrible violectric amp

ugh.

>>57486979
>terrible vioelectric amp
why?

>>57486971
I have done that and also have a Lyr that i used as well. Nothing drives the Audezes as well as that old amp.

>>57486979
The Dac is actually really good for the price.

>>57487033
matrix just make shitty benchmark knockoffs with incredibly poor components

>>57487071
Had zero issues with it so far after over two years of constant use, granted i dont use the amp in it and just utilize the dac. The amp is unimpressive but that is also the case with the Benchmark Dac 1.

>>57487071
what have the chinks done to you?

If ATH-M50x is considered the better headphones?

Then why do most people seem to prefer ATH-M40x over it?
After reading a lot of shit, it seems people feel M40x is the better contender and I'm about to buy it, transitioning from my HD 202-II.

>>57487299
nobody considers the m50x to be better. most non-idiots know they are bad.

I'm looking for a pair of transportable headphones to use outside of home.

Currently my favourites are ATH-M50x or the 40x.
Is the higher price of the 50x worth it or should I save money and take the 40x?

>>57487740
How are they your favorites already when you don't own them? Have you heard them?

>>57487753
Sorry If this was unclear, I mean that these two are currently my favourite canidates to buy.

>>57484361
O2 from Head 'n' Hifi

>>57477888
Asking again.

Black or White headphones lads

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Fiio E10K or SMSL Mini 5 for 250 ohm?

Why do headphones have such stupid unmemorable names with arbitrary letters and numbers?

>>57489066
Because you're not in this hobby.
Another way of putting it.. Why do car parts and engine names have such stupid unmemorable names with arbitary letters and numbers?

Do you guys think the dt770s-990s look ugly? Because I do.

>>57489815
990? 990 Pro? Premium models look different. Pro model is exactly the same looks as DT990s from 1980's.

>>57489815
They look fine. If they sound good, looks are the least of my concerns with the exception of closed SHP9500's

What do you think of the AKG 451? I want some cans with removable cable for traveling and everyday stuff

>>57489131
>arbitary
Nearly every engine has numbers that relate to its size or number of pistons retard.
>>57489066
It's the hobby. Especially now where 99% of the purpose of buying headphones is dumping money.

>Budget
Less than $60
>Location
Canada
>Source
Much laptop
>Type of headphone
Over ear preferably
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter that much
>Sound profile
Doesn't matter that much
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 201 (poorfag)

>all this HD 600/HD 650 shitposting
Literally why? They're both great headphones. I always believed the HD600 were more neutral, who should I trust?

>budget
$50-100. preferably on the lower end.
>location
US
>source
Nexus 6p / laptop
>type of headphone
earbud/IEM
>comfort
not horrible to wear, but not a huge concern
>sound signature
V shaped or neutral
>past headphones
MEE audio M6 PRO(lost) , JVC Marshmallow(broke), ATH-m50x, Marantz HD660 speakers


User replaceable cable is very preferable.

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Thoughts on the sr60i?
Also thoughts on open back in general?

>>57490582
They were the first phones I bought for more than $50 and they sounded fantastic. They're very open, however, and that is very inconvenient on a library or any public space. Open is fine home, but it eventually got me to buy some HD 25-1s just to not leak any sound outside.

>>57490582
Can you please tell me what makes you want that headphone in your pic? I had one. I upgraded from Sennheiser HD448 and HD202 before it. I really want to know what makes you want that. Today Grados aren't really recommended since it's a love it or hate it headphone.

>>57477973
Spotted the sennshill cuck

>>57490582
gay and terrible

>>57491035
I wanted to try open headphones and these seem like they weren't too costly and have heard really good things about them/Grado in general.
Did you like them?

There's a fake AKG K3003i on eBay with the heading below. I feel sorry for the poor schmuck that fell for a fake. It's 100% obvious the box is fake. Shiny rivets, AKG logo on lid is not flush, leather wallet looks un-genuine, ear-tips supposed to be in each individual baggies.. Selling for $480 someone fucking report this guy as well.
>Open Box it was bought 2 months ago, opened and used for 2 times only!!!

>>57491438
>Did you like them?
I did. Koss KSC75s with headband or my beats solo 2 replaced them.

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I ask last time but it devolved into autism deathmatch

he-400i vs hd650.

the planar looks technically superior but... I still can't decide.

>>57491764
k712

>>57491795
>recommending nigger bass
K702 is better

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>>57491804
>K712
>nigger base

>>57491764
>I still can't decide.
The curves don't matter. Pick one on price, comfort and so on.

>>57490353
>I always believed the HD600 were more neutral, who should I trust?
proper measurements on proper equipment

>>57491804
>recommending bright tinny trash
K612 Pro is better.

Thoughts on the HD800S? I kinda dig the color scheme desu.

>>57492764
breddy gud

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-800-s

diffuse field fanboys still stuck in the 90s will try to deal you they're bad

>>57492811
Stop shilling that shitty website. Everyone knows that the HD800S are garbage.

>>57492834
and there's the first diffuse field fanboy.

if you committed the time you do to shilling your shitty poorfag headphones to actually earning some money, you wouldn't be doing this.

>>57492764
Dethroned from wall of fame by Elear kekeke

>>57492875
>needs to be modded to sound anywhere near reasonable

>>57492844
>believing expensive automatically = better

you want earpods with those placebo pills?

>>57492897
>believing your boomy, dark, shittier versions of hd650s are better

>>57492875

What's with these "industry experts" heavily shilling Focal new headphones recently?

>>57492918
they got paid

>>57492918
Buying $4-5000 headphones that cost like $30 to make is the new scale of what makes a good headphone.

>>57492947
paying more than $50 for any headphone is a ripoff, heck, any audio product really.

it's just how it is, unless you DIY everything you're not going to escape it.

Poorfags, poorfags everywhere.

>>57491764
I can tell you because I have a 400i the bass is based as fuck when you eq. Otherwise I don't notice much a difference between dynamic and planar. I don't have a 650 but I do have a 558, 770, and THX00 and notice dynamic drivers tend to have loose floppy sounding bass. If you know what you're doing you can pretty much eq whatever is wrong with the headphone out. 400i out of the box comes with some pretty hollow sounding mids that the 558 definitely has it beat comparatively. Like I said you can easily fix with with a little eq though, just my opinion though.

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>>57492764
I like them

>>57492964
Not really. I can see $500 headphones because there is a bit of work needed in testing/tuning.

But paying $1000+ for headphones with massproduced parts is silly and really a sign you're an idiot and ignorant.

Hopefully rtings will get more popular. First review site I've seen in a long time that doesn't play up the expensive headphones as making the lesser expensive irrelevant.

>>57493015
>I can see $500 headphones because there is a bit of work needed in testing/tuning.
$500 is a nomansland in headphones because they're no better or most of the time worse than $100-300 offerings and still don't compare to the $1000 offerings

>Budget
<=$300 aus
>Location
Australia
>Source
Straight to motherboard, if it matters i'm willing to buy whatever I need.
>Type of headphone
fullsized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
don't like sore ears, have large head.
yes
>Sound signature
don't really know. I listen to a lot of different music but not anything related to dance besides dub.
>Past headphones
iphone in ear

>>57493112
Audio Technica MSR7

>>57493123
Thanks mate.
Unless any anon wants to disagree with you I'll buy them ASAP.

>>57493104
>still don't compare to the $1000 offerings
This is objectively bullshit and I wish the market for headphones wasn't dominated by hipster trash.

Monitor speakers fare a lot better in that regard at least.

>>57493145
not really, you've got the lsr305 dominating everything sub$1k

>>57493015
See: >>57492834

>>57493143
Don't buy at JB.

Look to places like Minidisc, Addicted to Audio and importing.

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>>57493015
the biggest offenders are mr speakrs and audeze, horrible quality control but for some reason head-fi keep shilling them and their "made in murica" brand.

i bet 99% they source their drivers from either hifiman or fostex and just tweak them slightly for a 500% mark up.

american boutique hifi brands are cancer.

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>>57492918
Um maybe because they're really good?

>>57493309
lol

>>57493309
Utopia was good but not for the asking price.
Elear a shit.

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>Budget
200$
>Location
U.S
>Source
Phone, amp
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Super comfortable, and portable
>Sound signature
Bassy but not muddy, love sub bass but Id like it to be versatile
>Past headphones
7506, porta pros, JVC s-500

>>57493276
Most FR charts of the best headphones compared to "midfi garbage" like the HD650 or K712 are extremely close.

>>57494015
>midfi
go back to head-fi...

>>57493276
except they're the only good review site

>>57494025
I put it in quotes for a reason.

>>57494087
it's more accurate and has better wave dispersion than anything under $1k.

again, parrot shit all you want, it doesn't change the facts.

>>57494094
It isn't though, for the very reasons mentioned

In what is now a deleted post.

>>57494120
cabinet construction being shit is irrelevant if it performs better.

>QA is shit
[citation needed]

>>57494130
I think you ignored the implication there that it doesn't perform better because of the shit cabinet. Probably because it doesn't support your argument.

>>57494155
except the cabinet doesn't have a negative impact on its performance.

you're clearly just regurgitating noaudiophile's review of the lsr308 because you have no idea what you're talking about.

Are there any tools you guys recommend for testing headphones at flea markets and pawn shops?
I saw a pair of XB1000 the other day going for a great price but I was scared something was wrong with them.

>>57494159
Either that or the midrange isn't as good as its competitors and you're just throwing out accusations in an attempt to discredit the opposition.

Hey can anyone suggest me some nice on ear headphones for up to 120$~
I live in a place without a place for headphones and such so international shopping or US only and I'll send it to an address that'll ship it to me later.
I plan on buying during black Friday or any big deal thing that'll be in the near future.
I prefer comfortability over sound but the sound needs to be okay, 3.5mm only because I'll use it with my phone as well so it'll have to be a bit durable... I can probably go up to 130-135$ but I prefer not to because I am short on money...
Also, is there a way to get headphones that do not block all outside sound and stuff because I need to hear what's going around me..
Thanks, about the deals thing I mentioned just giving me a list of what to look at will help. Thanks.

>>57494196
lacking the yamaha honk doesn't make the midrange 'lacking'

infact the midrange on the lsr305 is incredibly flat. why don't you prove that competitors have better performing speakers?

>>57494207
>lacking the yamaha honk
Is that supposed to be funny? Because it's just more fallacious arguing.

>Why don't you prove I'm not shifting goal posts?
Because I'm starting to think this is just bait.

>>57494253
you can't even present a proper argument, why are you still posting?

for the record, 'no ur wrong lsr305 sux!' is not a proper argument, nor is claiming flaws that have little to do with their response.

Thoughts on Shure SRH940?

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3.5mm male to lightening when?

>>57488913
anyone?

>>57494735
You are most likely using a Beyer DTxx0 so E10K is enough.
Next time, post the actual headphones you're using or at least the sensitivity.

>>57494823
yeah dt990's.
The price difference between the e10k and mini5 is pretty small so i considered the mini5 as a bit more future proof in case of speakers aswell since it's also a speaker amp.
But is there any benefit from the e10k over the mini5?

What are good external DAC and AMP for DT 990 600 Ohm.
>Total budged
$350
>I will be using headphones only on my PC
>Country
Europe

>>57494866
Headphone outputs in speaker amps can be dodgy and are usually just an after thought.

>>57494908
It's supposed to have a seperate headphone amp built in with an output of 130mW/32ohm

>>57494940
>seperate headphone amp
As long as output impedance is low (<1 ohm), it's fine.

What are the best headphones for metal music that I can buy that cost roughly $150? I'm currently using a pair of Skullcandy Crushers but I'm not too satisfied with them. I would prefer a detachable AUX cord, I tend to fuck up cords all the time.

>>57485701
Those or brainwavz hm9 for good sub bass and decent mids and highs?

>>57494977
You don't get headphones for a musical genre. That makes no sense.

>>57494940
Pretty weak output.

>>57495055
so the fiio is better?

>>57495059
It has more output power and much better documented performance.

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>>57495075
>57495075
FiiO's page says that the reccommended headphone impedence is up to 150ohms though

>>57495059
For your use right now, yes. By the time you get speakers, you would get an actual speaker amp in which you can just line out to from the E10K.

>>57495115
>implying this matters
HD6x0 are 300 ohm, works perfectly.
HE-6 are 50 ohms, will not make them budge.

>>57495130
I suppose thats true, thanks for the advice senpai

>>57495115
It's a silly spec which only confuses people. Don't pay attention to it, seriously.

>>57481477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ
Honestly if I had paid $2749 for shit headphones I'd want to off myself as well.

>>57494206
Bump
Anyone?

Guys who is the cutest anime girl wearing brand headphones?

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>>57496258
Matsumae Iroha

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>>57496258
Roka without a doubt

>>57496178
me on the right

>>57494206
Bump

>>57494206
Philips fidelio L1 or L2 or even M1 which are on sale right now http://a.co/2AlSpS7
Brainwavz HM9

>>57496656
70$ instead of 300$? Is that an older model they're trying to sell all the stock of?

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was thinking about clinching Phillips Fidelo x2s (since theyre allegedly discountinued????) + a modmic for gaymen, but was wondering if i should just wait for Black Friday

do things that are discountinued, or more specifically these, generally go on sale on Black Friday?

>>57496719
the latter i believe.

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I want some earbuds with the shape of Apple earpods and their functionality (volume and mic), I actually want earpods but the ones that won't tear apart and stop functioning after few months because of their thin piece of shit cable.

Before you ask yes, I tried in ear headphones and I just can't use them at all so they are not an option for me.

>>57496892
Alright and I suppose it's pretty good due to all the positive reviews.

>>57486394
because the 662's are a decent bit better
681 has muddy low end, and poor soundstage despite being an open headphone

both are good though

>>57497151
Well, I already got the 662's for 20 dollars so that's nice to know.

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I have a pair of Sony MDR-7506s.

Would this make a good DAC for them?

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a friends ask if these are any good? anyone used before? xiaomi mi hybrid

>>57487299
Just shitty marketing really.

>>57487740
M40x are BETTER than m50x. Comes up nearly every thread.

>>57488913
Impedance means very little. Give us the RMS of your headphone.

>>57490353
600's are more neutral. 650's have slightly more present midbass and highs.
Preference really. Both are similar, and both are good.

>>57491764
400i is better in every way except comfort and quality control in my opinion
both are good though. that planar bass pulls the 400i for me though.

>>57494188
ears tend to help
bring a decent DAP if your phone audio sucks too

>>57495002
770's

>>57496178
What headphones are those that are two left from the HD600's?

>>57496881
Just wait 12 days and see unless youre impatient
Headphones can be hit or miss on black friday

>>57497255
Muddy bass, but they're decent. If your friend is a typical person, then that would probably appeal to them to be honest.

>>57497266
Thank you anon :3

>>57497266
>What headphones are those that are two left from the HD600's?
The sennheiser amperior things and the beyerdynamic amperior thing. Or you can look up Innerfidelity wall of fame.

>>57475743
Install razer soft. on windows shite its waaaay too loud. Razer Execs dont mind their clients going deaf because they can shove other acessories at those outrageous prices easier when client has problems with hearing.

>>57492606
>autismal buzzwords that have no meaning

>>57496548
>>57496283
what cans are these?

>>57493734
K553 pro

>>57497648
Neither of those. Thanks for the info on the wall of fame. Turns out they're Denon AH-D2000

>>57490353
Because sennfags cant accept that their outdated 90's snapphones have been outdone by the 702

>>57497705
>*fags
I'm sorry, but your opinion is automatically garbage.

>>57497992
faggot

>>57497992
>defending snapphones
I'm sorry, but your opinion is automatically garbage.

My Sennheisers HD 201 just broke
I bought them because they were cheap, but I was not happy with them, there was no bass at all (I'm not nigger that wants too much bass, you reall couldn't hear lower frequencies).
What closed or semi closed headphones should I get for <100$? (EU prices)

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>Budget
250$
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Mobo
>Type of head-phone
full-sized
>Open or closed?
Open
>Comfort
Comfy as possible
>Sound signature
neutral or slightly warm
>Past headphones
m50, want to try something new. Currently considering shp9500, ad900x, dt880, k712 and hd 598. Willing to extend budget to accomodate an amp if needed.

>>57498556
for slightly warm get 558's/598's, or K712 if you want to spend a bit more

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Just ordered the m1 mk II was it worth it?

>>57498691
literally what

>>
>>57498733
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V3A0LKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_nAgkybMVMYYFH

>Budget
<100$
>Location
Croatia
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of head-phone
full-sized
>Open or closed?
Closed
>Comfort
Comfy as possible
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 201

>>57497679
they're buzzwords if you're deaf, why is probably why you still own K702s.

>>57498548
K240

>>57498556
K712 with a fiio e10k

>>57498934
K240

>>57499062
>b-but muh shapphones and poorfag shit is better than the 702
lol back to r eddit with you

>>57499266
>desperately trying to bring people back to your hugbox circlejerk
summer is over why are you still here?

>>57499283
You like sennheisers, you obviously don't belong here, r eddit is more friendly to people with shit taste like you

>>57499339
you would know all about what reddit is like wouldn't you, since you're from there.

Hey guys I see you were talking about LSR305. I need speakers to play music/movies/games in my living room and I'm considering to buy them. The room is about 25m2(270 sq ft). I will be sitting in 2-3m(7ft) if I'm on couch near TV and in 5m(16ft) if I'm in kitchen (which is connected with living room).
Also I'm looking at Focal Alpha 65, Adam F5 etc.
Help me pls.

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>>57499348
>liking snapped headphones
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>57499393
>speakers
>>>/reddit/

>>57499393
audition them

>>57499410
>sennshit still selling like hotcakes because nobody is willing to put up with AKG's garbage tier sound for their build quality to the point where AKG are struggling for sales
kek not even harman want to bail them out

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>>57499348
>I'm from /reddit/ and I love Sennheiser: the post

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>>57499393
>mfw I just went with AVHTB and F12 for a 5.1 setup

>>57499459
>AKG can't afford to pay me so i shill for free

>>57499444
>sennshit still selling like hotcakes because nobody is willing to put up with AKG's garbage tier sound for their build quality to the point where AKG are struggling for sales
Source: my ass

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Hey guys. K553 user here.

I just ordered a standalone ODAC. Since my impedance is <80 ohms, is it worth getting an amp or can I just use the odac as is?

>all this false flagging and shitposting
You have nobody to blame but yourself, /g/.

>>57499247
>K240
on some forum they recommended me ATH-m40x
are K240's better?

>>57499444
>audition them
I can't.
>>57499467
I need 2.0 or 2.1 not 5.1.

>>57499469
I never said AKG, why do sennfags always blame AKG when people criticize their shit headphones?

>mfw sennheiser killed akg's only remaining selling product with the 6xx

>>57499494
Yea the audiotechnica ATH-mwhateverthefuck are all more or less meme phones, the M40x is just a M50x minus niggerbass

>>57499498
you've already identified yourself as an AKG shill with shitposts like >>57499247 don't even try to hide it now, it's too late AKG cuck

>>57499501
>200 sales is bigger than 10000+
Dumb sennfag pajeet cant into math

>>57499490
Impedance doesn't actually mean anything significant. You will want an amp though. You can buy a DIY o2 amp if you want. They're around 50 USD

>>57499537

Thanks family.

>>57499518
Its not even my post, and how are those even bad recommendations? you just seem like a massive assblasted shill

>>57499490
you can't use a headphone directly from a dac

>>57499535
>5000 sold in less than a week, 25000+ are waiting for a newer drop
Please stop. I have K702s, Senn really killed it with that massdrop deal.

>>57499490
You didn't need a amp for that

>>57499552
>>57499535
>damage control

>>57499494
I don't know why he's suggesting K240. If you thought the bass on your 201 was lacking, then K240's won't be much of an improvement. Go with the m40x. They absolutely DO need replacement pads though. You can get HM5 pads for around $25 USD. I'd recommend those.

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>>57499514
I have to agree with that statement. I didn't miss my m40x when they broke.

>>57499563
>I have K702s
chill it with the false flag m80