/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>57501073
Nico Nico Nii
What headphones would Nico use?

>Budget
<100$
>Location
Croatia
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of head-phone
full-sized
>Open or closed?
Closed
>Comfort
Comfy as possible
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 201

>>57501168
http://en.goldenears.net/20519

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>>57501219
Shitty headphones for a shitty idol.

>>57501265
Smug Vampire > Smug Demon

>>57501197
https://www.amazon.com/Perfect10-Over-Ear-Headphones-ComfortMax®-XPT100/dp/B0093PVTPS/

>open thread
>hagshit

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
FiiO K1
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open prefered, either works
>Comfort level
Doesnt matter, I have spare velours from my Superlux HD 681
>Sound signature
V Shaped
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Hesh2
Superlux HD 681
Samson SR950

JVC-HAFX40
Skullcandy Ink'd
VE Monk+

I only listen to EDM and will also be using these for gaming (CSGO,BF4,Insurgency mainly). Any suggestions or replies would be great, thanks.

>>57501073
This isn't official image

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>Budget
<$75
>Location
california
>Source
t420
>Type of head-phone
full-sized
>Open or closed?
Closed
>Comfort
Comfy as possible
>Past headphones
apple earbuds

My beyerdynamic dt770 started rattling in the left speaker. Why didn't anyone warn me before buying this shit.

>>57502432
Check if there's a hair or some particle touching the driver. That's the most common cause of rattle and distorted sound.

>>57501073
JK BACK AGAIN TO SHIT UP THIS THREAD WITH SHITTY IDOLS

>>57502432
beyers are built like a tank on the outside but are so fragile on the inside.

>>57502452
I did, but I couldn't find any. It only happens when I put my volume higher than 50 on my PC (and only when listening to bass). Maybe it's an amp problem?

>>57502616
No, amplifier doesn't act like that. It should be easy enough to test however, plug in another pair of headphones if you have any and turn up the volume by a same amount.

>>57501925
Good info.

>>57502537
The plastic things where the headband goes into are somewhat prone to cracking.

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Are the Sennheiser HD 650s still among the best open ear headphones <£250? I want something a bit different in addition to my K701s and I'm owed £250 that I haven't missed much, seems like a good excuse to buy another pair of decent headphones. Have an ODAC and 02 amp so doesn't matter if hard to drive. Would appreciate any suggestions.

Mainly listen to 60s/70s rock, folk, classical and a bit of electronic.

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Is the Fiio E6 enough to power HD598s? I have this combination, but if I'd get a better experience with a better amp (within reason), I'd like to know

>>57504196
Sorry, didn't notice template.

>Budget
Ideally <£250 but would go up to £300 max if worth it
>Location
UK
>Source
Epiphany 02 amp + odac
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
>Open
>Comfort level
Headphone is only sound source at PC, ideally must be able to wear for up to six hours without discomfort
>Sound signature
Warm preferred
>Past headphones
AKG K701

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I'm looking for headphones to replace the Sennheiser HD 25-1 IIs for outside use be it on public transportation, the library, etc. They have served me well for 8 years now, but I'm in the lookout for something better.
>Budget
Ideally less than $300, but am flexible.
>Location
Puerto Rico
>Type of headphone
On ear. Could do full ear, but I want to be as portable as possible.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, but my ears have bleed all that they could with the clamp, I don't mind if they're uncomfy.
>Sound signature
I don't know, maybe neutral this time? I can be open to whatever.
>Past headphones
Grado SR-60i, Koss Portapro, Audio Technica ATH M50, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II.

Also looking for headphones for on home use. These can be open, over ear, etc. Same budget.

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When do you think they'll open it again? That's more than 5 times their initial limit.

What tip does /g/ use on their Etymotic HF5?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11647165

I don't know if my headphones are actually good or not, I've been using my AKG K430s for a year now, and I'd like know if I should change to something better.

>Budget
Max $160

>Location
Brazil

>Source
Motherboard

>Type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Doesn't matter

>Comfort
As comfy as possible

>Sound signature
Didn't own a lot of headphones before so I don't really know what I like, so I guess neutral would be fine?

>Past headphones
AKG K430, the only pair of decent headphones I've ever had.

>Budget
$250> mildly flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of head-phone
Full
>Open or closed?
closed, pref the more soundproof the better
>Comfort
wear them for upwards of 5 hours at a time so comfort is a big plus
>Past headphones
Fidelio X2
liked that you didnt need an amp, were crazy comfortable, felt very open and wide..(?) soundwise i guess. though highs could be a bit sharp at times

I need a new portable audio source because my portapros broke and they need to be replaced.

>budget
< 50€

>location
ireland

>source
ipod classic

>type
ear phone / bud

>open/closed
closed preferably

>comfort
as much as possible

>past headphone
koss portapro

>>57505857
I have a Porta Pro. What is broken? Just curious.

Sony XBA-10/XBA-C10.

>>57505857
>my portapros broke
Don't they have a no questions asked lifetime warranty?

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i've been using the ath-m50's in pic related for roughly 3 years now and they're starting to show some wear.

thought maybe i should try something new so i bought the shures in same pic. figure i could return them if i didn't like them and just stay with what i'm familiar with and get new m50x's.

are they good headphones? what can help me decide which one to keep, other than obviously listening to both of them?

>>57501073
need recommendation

>Budget
~$100 with lots of leeway
>Location
America. Or else I'd be buying these
http://www.whathifi.com/philips/shb8850nc/review
>Type
on-ear. foldable.
>comfort level
needs to be comfy. Would prefer 7/10 sound and 9/10 comfort over the other way around
>sound signature
as neutral as possible

bonuses: wireless (only if can be used with wire without battery), noise cancelling/reduction, detachable cable. needs at least one of these three to be worth buying IMO

>>57506964
forgot to mention
>past headphones
currently using apple earbuds (better than skullcandy, any other $20 headphones I've ever used)

have ATH-M30's at my desktop but they are 0/10 comfy because they squeeze my glasses to my head and I need to take them off after an hour if not 10-15 minutes

I'd be using the heaphones with an android phone (hopefully a pixel) and if they sound good enough maybe they'll be for my desktop too

How do I fix headphones that have a short at the very base where it enters?

>Budget
~$100, can go over budget
>Location
USA
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy over long periods of time, preferably something that won't squeeze my glasses
>Past headphones
Currently using Logitech G930s. Looking for something that lasts longer and doesn't slide off my head when I look down. Really liked the surround sound. Wireless is a bonus.

Any chances of the 80 OHM DT 770 getting a discount on Black Friday?

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>>57507117
>Really liked the surround sound.

>>57504196
Their build quality is really poor.
Their sound is shill select.

>>57501073
Sauce?

>Budget
150-200 but I'm fairly flexible around that point as long as I'm not paying for diminishing returns
>Location
Australia
>Source
phone, computer, does it matter?
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
preferably closed
>Comfort level
Willing to get better headphones for a little less comfort
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
headphones that came with a keyboard.

Looking into 598SE but it has that obnoxious connector. The thick-ass adapter would still get in the way, so needless to say I'd get replacement cords terminating in 3.5mm. Are there any particular cords you would recommend?

>>57507754
HD598 S3 should havr two cables: one ends with a 6.3 mm connector, the other one should end with a 3.5 mm connector.

>>57507906
I thought they both had the 6.3mm connector but one was shorter than the other?

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>>57501073
Aidoru edition

This might be a dumb question, but will open headphones be too loud to use with a nearby microphone? I'd like a modmic with open headphones, but that concern just occurred to me.

>>57504288
Wait for a new HD6XX drop.

Is the difference between delta-sin DAC and multibit DAC really that huge?

>>57508568
if you mean audible difference then no, there's absolutely nothing if both are properly designed.

Does the rule of thumb about gaming headsets being shit apply to Sennheiser's game one?

>>57508600
How can there be no difference?
http://www.mother-of-tone.com/conversion.htm

>>57501073
ok ive ran through 2 atm50s for about 7 years now. First pair had its cup holder thing broken. I just tapped it, super glued it, and ran with thoses for a few years until I finally had enough with doing maintenance every few days and just bought a new pair. 2nd set last the rest of the years and finally the plastic stacks that keep the headphones cupped to your ears broke. I was debating if I should just wear a sweat band or just find another pair that won't break as much.

also I noticed in both pair that the cord at the end of the jack always ALWAYS becomes loose and produces a static noise when messed with.

>Budget
$150 i can wait for shit to go on sell or buy used

>location
US

>source
motherboard

>type
over ear cup

>open/closed
closed

>comfort
sound quality is more important and i have cup replacements if I need them.

>past headphones
atm50s
sol republic air 10v

>>57509473
Me on the left

>>57508568
If you look at the chip and the hardware, sure.
If you look at it like a black box and only care what comes out, not so much.

>How can there be no difference?
They can just flat out lie about these things work. To explain everything wrong with that could fill pages. Better to just read an engineering textbook and avoid that dreck altogether.
If you don't assume malice, we could start by saying it leaves out a standard step in reconstruction: the standard analog cutoff filter.

Proper DAC outputs don't look like discrete stairsteps, not even on a fine scale. We would call that a bad DAC in any normal application, audio or otherwise. The corners are images, the signal reflected over fs/2 that can also fit the sampled points. The ultra-high frequency artifacts are undesirable, and are normally removed by the lowpass filter.
These also catch the shaped noise output produced by Sigma-Delta (Σ-Δ) converters and by any applied dither spectra. With the noise and error removed, what you have left is a high resolution signal in the frequency of interest.


Now if you can grasp the content of these links, you should have a better idea of what goes on.

DAC Oversampling tutorial, with a mention of Σ-Δ converters
>http://www.analog.com/media/en/training-seminars/tutorials/MT-017.pdf
Application note on DAC cutoff filter
>https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3853
An old article on Σ-Δ conversion. What has become practical to implement has changed, but it still works for theory.
>http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/application-notes/292524291525717245054923680458171AN283.pdf

>>57507117
Virtual surround is trash. Honestly. Ruins music, and you can accomplish the exact same with purely software if you want it for vidya. Just get a good pair of headphones.

That said, best options within your budget are either Brainwavz HM5, or M40x with HM5 pads

M40x if you want solid bass, HM5 if you want a nice neutral and clear sound. Your choice. M40x clamp may be an issue with glasses though.

>>57508636
Terrible article. It doesn't go into limitations of resistor ladder designs(beyond mentioning how hard it is to match the resistors but mentions not how this limits fidelity) but likes to talk about noise in delta-sigma conversion - noise which is completely outside of the audible domain and filtered out from the device's response by low pass filtering. These designs are always a series of tradeoffs and understanding what could even theoretically be audible or outputted by the device is enough to see how that is mostly just bullshit. There is no "total noise output" to worry about as it truly does reside outside of human hearing capabilities(well above 20 KHz) and at this point the device also physically filters this signal out so even if we magically could hear up there, it will not be present in the signal outputted. This is all shown in any decent delta-sigma converter's measuremens, too. The sine waves look nothing like those in the article which are only possible by not filtering the ultrasonic junk frequencies out which absolutely no converter does. No working DAC outputs a stairstep sine wave either so that "smooth" R2R example wave is only an intermediate step in the converter, not how the wave actually looks like when it comes out. Also no DAC achieves 24 bits of resolution. The best DACs are capable of around 21 bits and these are all delta-sigma, Yggdrasil gets very close however. Interestingly enough Schiit themselves report worse performance for their R2R "upgrades" over the Delta-Sigma converters.

How the article ties everything into audibility is another can of worms and makes simply ridiculous claims about how these two technologies, nothing more than means to an end, have some inherent audible traits.

>>57501197
instaliraj đentu

>Budget
£80-ish
>Location
UK
>Source
iPhone
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Doesnt matter
>Past headphones
Cheap shit

Every pair of headphones I've found at £70-£80 are meme wireless bluetooth.

Any suggestions?

>>57510155
Brainwavz HM5 or NVX XPT-100
Both are fairly identical. HM5's are kinda better built. Pretty minimal differences though

Though if you want some more bass, get M40x and HM5 pads.

buy em online tho. retail stores are shit for most audio gear unless theyre on special

>>57509805
>which absolutely no converter does
Well...that has it's own niche.

You want to remove the noise and images, regardless of audibility. These can overload amplifier slew limits, provide useless signal into an amplifier that outputs useless power to heat up tweeters. But this is standard practice.

>Also no DAC achieves 24 bits of resolution.
Theoretically possible for audio, but not very usable.

>>57508568
>huge
No, nothing in the kilobuck range is going to have a "huge" difference from one another. Then again this is just playing semantics.

Diminishing returns, etc.

>>57510540
>Theoretically possible for audio
What would you say is the limitation for the roughly 21 bits of resolution we see in the best converters on the market? What is the resolution limited by? Can you say whether it is possible to get higher resolution in practice, forgetting whether or not that extra resolution has any practical relevance?

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How did I do for entry level, /g/?
Been using shitty $39 turtle beach headphones that were a gift 8 years ago.

>>57510812
you did fine

>>57510833
I wish I had known that /hpg/ was a thing, I would have sought help before I bought. Glad to know I didn't screw up miraculously

>>57510833
How come the Impulse response goes inverted instead of up like the AD2000X's?

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK240Monitor.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHAD2000X.pdf

>>57510946
Dunno. Square waves do the same. Doesn't really matter at entry level shit. You're just looking for good sound really.

>>57510535
Thank you.

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I have been checking some headphones lately and they are 2-3 times more expensive then US in where i live(Turkey) .

I finally found HD471 and i was wondering about the quality of this product. Is it worth the money(around 125 bux)?

>>57510980
Get K240s, they are better

>>57511001
>K240
They are 185$ and way out of my price range mate.

>>57510980
buy online and import from cheaper euro sites
local prices are retarded

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>>57511001
Not him but also interested. Which one? K240 or K240 MKII's?

>>57511038
Not an option for now bro. After the recent coup even ordering from Amazon is a fucking mess right now. Even the books are held up at customs.

>>57511001
Aren't they 600 Ohms?

>>57511079
Different anon here. I've also been trying to decide between these two, or something similar.

Everything I've read online indicates that those two headphones are audibly identical. The MKII just comes with an extra set of velour pads and an extra coiled cable, so it might be a little more comfortable for extended listening.

I'd get the MKII because comfort is important, but where I live they cost $100 more than the K240 studio which I can't really justify.

>>57511104
Nevermind just found out.

>55 ohms
http://www.akg.com/pro/p/k240studio
http://www.akg.com/pro/p/k240mkii

>600 ohms
http://www.akg.com/pro/p/k240-monitor

>>57510946
Inverted polarity on the K240s. This has to do how the wiring is done internally in the headphones, basically just positive and negative wires changed the other way.

>>57511026
then leave your shit country turkroach

>>57511079
>>57511126
The only difference is mostly just the color, the mkii looks nicer

>>57511104
yes but those are the old ones, they arent made anymore

in brief: my needs are specifically monitoring mixes and mastering my music (experimental with a blend of organic and electronic instruments if it matters) and other people's music freelance. I need good reference phones to use in tandem with my desk monitors- I need it to sound as good as possible on both.

>Budget
literally whatever as long as it's not insane or unreasonable for the level of improvement from what I have currently. If it's $450+ you'd have to really sell me on it though

>Location
clapistan

>Source
audio interface for monitoring mixes, stereo receiver, and occasionally phone/laptop headphone jack for lazy casual listening.

>Type of headphone
over-ear, bonus if it's specifically designed for monitoring use

>Open or closed
whichever lends itself better to a more accurate mix. No preference.

>Comfort level
would like it to be comfy and not make my ears sore for long hours working on music

>Sound signature
absolute must for it to be as flat and neutral as possible. No bias toward any frequency band, I'm not some edm basshead

>Past headphones
ATH-meme50s, honestly nothing else worth mentioning, they're been my main and only pair for 6+ years and they're starting to go.

>>57511270
K702 and Fiio e10k or any other good entry amplifier

>>57510980
>>57510980
>>57510980
Did anyone try these headphones before?

I was going to get O2/Odac for my HD600 but then I ended up with additional 60$ and my eyes felt on THE ELEMENT, I am a faggot for sleek black boxes. But still, how do they compare to O2/Odac, is there a decent bump in performance?

>>57511320
>having a hd600
wew

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Audio casual here.

What's the verdict on the Sennheiser HD 598? I don't need audiophile-tier quality, I just want decent-sounding over-ear headphones that are comfy for long periods of time and have removable cable.

Budget anywhere up to $250 desu

>>57511355
Also I have no amp, just plugging these right into motherboard.

Do I even want an entry level amp for casual listening?

>>57511355
They're pretty decent. Beaten by stuff like T50RP's but that requires modding and all that.

Also, you may want to look at 558's rather than 598's. The 598's have a sort of fake leather vinyl headband cushion which can be irritating to some. If youre not going for 'MAXIMUM OPTIMUM SUPER AUDIOPHILE' tier shit, you probably won't notice a difference.

If you dont find them too hot you may want to look at AKG K612's

>>57511399
>Beaten by stuff like T50RP
At what?

>>57511366
You don't need an amp for 598's. Theyre easy to drive. If youre worried you can get a DIY amp from china for around 10 bucks, or an SMSL DAC/Amp combo for around 70

>>57511408
At almost everything simply due to the insane modding community. Stock the low end goes deeper because muh planar.

Comfort may be the only thing 598's do better.

>>57508616
i was wondering about this myself since i'm pretty ignorant about headphones in general. i've been reading a lot about it, it's just difficult without being able to test different headphones out and compare.

i'm looking to get a friend of mine a headset or headphones/a mic as a christmas gift and i know he has a preference for headsets (less cables i guess). i think i could get better audio and mic quality for less with separates though. i'll also be getting myself a pair of headphones as well. i know for sure that i don't want a headset.

>>57501073
>Budget
I'm wanting to spend $150-$200 total each (mic included, leaning towards a modmic) but my budget is fairly flexible.

>Location
shipping to US

>Source
motherboard

>Type of headphone
full sized circumaural

>Open or closed
i think i prefer closed, but i haven't ever actually tried open headphones. i don't think sound leakage is a huge problem, but i like isolation.

>Comfort level
comfort is fairly important to me, i wear my headphones for hours at a time. i'm mostly concerned about clamp because i get headaches when my headphones press my glasses into my face.

>Sound signature
my friend's will be used primarily for gaming, while mine will be primarily for music. he currently is using a gaming headset and finds his bass lacking. i'm curious about more neutral sound and would like to try it.

any help would be appreciated!

>>57511329
I might be on a Senn fag path (had a 589 prior), but before getting them I did try out other headphones, AKG and Beyer. Beyers were fun, AKG were really really nice and if I would get any other headphones pair it will be an AKG. But Senns won, they were more neutral, gave more of everything and their laid back sound is plus for someone who keeps headphones permanently on their head.

>>57511300
would I need an amplifier for just casual listening or would a mid-tier interface alone be able to drive it adquately? Focusrite 2i4 here, headphone jack is 10 ohm I believe, pretty low

ATH-M50x or M40x?
Are the M50x worth the higher price?

>>57510812
Why buy the amp? the headphones should be adequate alone for most uses

>>57511494
Also AKG are fuckload harder to power than the HD600 and I had/have no amp for them.

Well then, samsung just bought AKG

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How good are the Fidelio L2s? Are they an upgrade over the SHP9500s?

Is the SMSL M3 powerful enough to drive AKG K612? A review said they need the O2 amp on 2.5x gain mode. Does this affect sound quality?

>>57504274
HD598 (I own a pair, classic brown kind) are fine with any amp, as they're 60Ω.

I use them with my motherboard's builtin amp, and they work really well.

https://www.asus.com/ie/Motherboards/Z97MPLUS/specifications/

However, non-amp sources usually only drive up to 30Ω or even 50Ω, never 60Ω. There it works but it'll all fall apart when bass hits, or otherwise the bass will be very weak.

>>57505857
Hey you, headphone hipster! Watch out for LUAS.

Anyone using SoundMagic E10 or any variant? I might pick up soon because I really want to try IEMs again.

I've seen normie reviews that it could compete against IEMs more expensive than this.

>>57511574
M40X are BETTER than m50x

spend the remainder on new pads, as the entire m?0x series needs them

>>57512107
Theyre fairly flat and uninteresting. If you're into that then you might have a pair.

I prefer my Senfer UEs. They're good chi-fi. Fairly neutral, but still have low end kick with no boomyness. Removable cable too. ~34 USD

>Budget
≤200$
>Location
States
>Source
Phone/Computer, no amp
>Type of head-phone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Semi Open or Closed
>Comfort
Comfy as possible
>Past headphones
Portapro
HD668b

>>57512620
thanks anon

>>57512640
update: I'm leaning towards the Pro4S but I'm worried that they aren't much of an upgrade from the 668bs. Also, would I need an amp for them?

>>57506180
>What is broken?
The right phone snapped off the hinge.

>>57512059
I hate my country.

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>>57506964
>>57506996
REPLY TO ME REEEEEEEEEE

>>57513138
take a heat gun to the top of your m30s and bend em
and then get HM5 pads

>>57511753
Plz respond

>>57513138
if they squeeze your glasses just put your glasses on AFTER you put on the headphones

>>57513199
umm like uhh good

>Budget
<=£100
>Location
UK
>Source
Mi 5
>Type of head-phone
IEM
>Comfort
Not fussed
>Past headphones
No IEM experience

Looking for IEM's for my coming plane-journey, and months abroad with no computer and no HD600's ;_;

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>>57504196
HD6XX is cheaper if you're willing to wait. I personally preferred the 650 over the K7XX but that might just be because I was used to it.

>>57507230
>Their build quality is really poor.
They do feel plasticky, but I've dropped them countless times and they're still working. You can also order parts from Sennheiser, though it's not cheap. I actually enjoy being careless with them, but that might be because they're my cheapest headphones.

>>57506765
They're great, the full sized experience yet still portable and sturdy. Though I moved on to something comfier.

>>57513286
>>57513162
thanks, I'm much more concerned with getting a decent pair of on-headphones for travel

how are these? seems to tick every box I'm looking for
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012X72EEM

>>57513548
You'd be better off getting Grados. Plantronics has pretty shit build quality, and they mainly produce headsets

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yo how good are the Fidelio L2s?

>>57513571
thanks for the recommendation; i think im still gonna go with the plantronics though. from specs/reviews sound seems pretty similar, plus the plantronics is wireless and closed back makes for better noise cancelling

thanks though

>>57513633
they dont cancel noise

>Budget
30€ - more if worth, up to 70/80
>Location
Italy
>Source
Smartphone mostly, also pc
>Type of headphone
Iem (Earphones)
>Comfort level
Don't care too much
>Sound signature
I prefer bassy, or at least warm, but nothing exaggerated
>Past headphones
Ath-m50x, I like them

Thank you!

>>57513666
>but nothing exaggerated
>Ath-m50x, I like them
anon...
m50x are literal bass mud machines

>>57513687
So something like that I don't mind them

>>57513885
then just get beats, faggot

>>57513633
On ear headphones don't block out very much noise, even if they're closed.

>>57513964
I'd like something on the 30€ price range, not 300€, and I tried beats and they're too bassy

>>57513312
Just bumping this

>>57506765
what did you think of the m60x's? im considering getting a pair

>>57514369
No such thing as M60x
And if you're asking about his M50x, don't. M40x are better. Cheaper, and don't sound like shit. Get HM5 pads with them too. All M?0x series have shit pads.

>Budget
<R$300
>Location
Brazil
>Source
Xonar DG
>Type of head-phone
In ear or over ear
>Open or closed?
Open for over ear
>Comfort
I'm used to pain
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681

I've spent around 4 years using this headphone and my current one is deteriorating. I'm podering between 5 choices:
csk990
Shure SE215
Sony MDR V55
Superlux HD681 EVO
Superlux HD681

Mainly for vidya, hard rock and electronic music. I enjoy a nice bass, but I don't want mids compromised because of it. The in ear phones are in the list because I want to try them, but I'm not sure of their performance in comparison. My current in-ear for my phone is fucking horrible.

looking for some really comfy over ears.

Have been using my ATH M50 for a long time now but i recently had to start wearing glasses and they are kinda uncomfortable with the headphones. Was thinking about the Sony MDR 1A but also looking for other suggestions

>>57514369
>>57514424
i dunno, i've loved the m50's for all the time i've used them, but they are the only serious headphones i've owned up until now, so i'm not really an expert

>>57514467
>Csk990
I meant cks990

Are M20x good for their price?

>>57514809
post price

>>57514809
Yeah though the earpads are uncomfortable

what do you all think of the two headphones currently on massdrop? the akg k553 pro and akg m220 semi-open

>>57515001
k553 pro are dedcent but dont always seal fantastically
and the m220's are the same as k240's. whatever is cheaper really

The stock pads on the hifiman 350 are killing me (too stiff) any recommendations for pads replacement

>>57515168
HM5 pads, the hifiman metal ring, and a good bit of stretching

AKG K240 MKII vs ATH-M40X vs SONY MDR7506

>>57515216
none of those are really comparable
k240 have rolled off low end and are open
m40x are V shaped with uncomfortable pads
MDR 7506 are extremely flat and are studio monitors

>>57515250
Then which one to buy for <100$

I got the velour pads fot the my Superlux 668b's. Am I doing something wrong because they sound worse than the stock pads. The bass is completely gone and the treble borders on painful sometimes, even with the foam insert. Do they become better with time?

>>57515274
did you not just read what i said?
>none of those are really comparable

fill in a purchase request forum

but if you really want my opinion, m40x with HM5 pads are your best option

Vali 2 or the Magni2uber for HD650s?

Paired with the Modi2uber DAC.

>>57515278
bass is always less present when you switch from a leather like material to a more breathable fabric

you have to put a thicker felt over the driver to counteract it.
even modding the headphones further to make them less closed is an option

>Budget
Around $150
>Location
US
>Source
Creative Speakers
>Type of headphone
Open to suggestions
>Open or closed
Closed if suggesting headphones
>Comfort level
Comfort is key as I work on the computer for 8 hours minimum.
>Sound signature
Suppose neutral would work. I listen to some older hiphop, classical, some rock, some metal and ASMR videos.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX 485, have gone through 2 pair. Left side died on both.

A few razer headsets and a few steel series headsets previously.

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>Not owning KZ ZSTs
It's like you hate chi-fi.

>>57515322
M40x with Brainwavz HM5 earpads

>>57515330
Senfer UEs are better

>>57504274
>>57512038
I just got my HD 598s in the mail today, would that amp be sufficent?

>>57515293
>Budget
<100$
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of head-phone
>full-sized
>Open or closed?
Closed / semi-open
>Comfort
Comfy as possible
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 201

>>57515339
>Senfer UEs are better
Might aswell try them. ZST sound extremely good though.

>>57515359
why the fuck do people keep skipping one of the most important parts?

>Sound signature (Skip if you don't care) - bassy (boosted bass), warm (recessed treble), neutral (even bass and treble), bright (boosted treble), v-shaped (boosted bass and treble), mid-centric (recessed bass and treble).

whoever decided to include '(Skip if you don't care)' is fuckin stupid

m40x with hm5 pads if you like some bass
Brainwavz HM5 if you want neutral

>>57515386
I honestly don't know anything about sound signature, I never had any good headphones.
I want them to sound good. that's it
If I had to pick I would probably say neutral or v-shaped

>>57515386
For new people who don't know shit about the actual sounds and signature of the headphone?

>>57515404
And oh look, I was right

Brainwavz 'Memory Foam Earpads' and 'HM5'.
Is there big difference?

>>57515404
you'd probably want m40x with hm5 then
a lot of people who dont really understand neutrality and presume its best to go for it in search of a total balanced experience, but often end up having it feel a bit empty due to not having much experience of anything other than the mainstream typical extreme bass heavy response

>>57515422
its called research bud

>>57515436
no, theyre fairly similar
hm5 are just the original pads from the HM5 headphones
the ones youre talking about are the angled and shit
theyre just a bit more expensive and can make headphones fit better

>>57515474
Ok. Then I'll buy "Brainwavz Velour Memory Foam Earpads" for my grandad's M20x. I think he'll like them.

Is it worth getting a pair of Sennheiser HD 598 if I'm using my motherboard as source for the sound output?

>>57515198
Ok, gonna order a pair now senpai

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>>57515653
I've ordered HD 6XX to use with my iPhone.

>>57515294
Fiio E10K

>>57515653
Yeah its fine. They open up and have a slight bit more low end with a good amp, but its negligible. They're real easy to drive so you shouldn't have any issues.

>Budget
$150ish
>Location
USA
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy good for extended use
>Past headphones
a couple of turtlebeachs in the past
current is a Logitech g930

the thing that I'm looking for is a headset that has a durable frame, my previous two sets had ear cups break off with in a year of getting them and my current set is well on it's way to the same happening to it as well.

>>57515294
Magni 2 because it's better performing all around and like going to last longer too.

>>57515386
>why the fuck do people keep skipping one of the most important parts?
>Skip if you don't care
you just answered your own question

>>57512640
>>57512764
pleasu respondu

>>57512640
>>57516138
DT770 80 Ohm

Unless you have elf ears they'll be comfy.

>>57501481
Any response would be great, thanks

>>57516148
thank you but please don't make fun of my elf ears

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Remember to use good audio source components.

What tip does /g/ use on their Etymotic HF5?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11647165

.

>>57515250
What do you mean by a rolled off low end? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I've heard this phrase multiple times and don't really get what it means.

What would you recommend to someone looking for a neutral sounding babby's first nice headphones? Also, how bad exactly is the clamp for the m40x?

wh AT is good A M P LIFICAT I O N FOR CHEAP that can power Superlux HD 668b???????

I use with phone and they are so QUIET???????

WTF??????

>Budget
<20€
>Location
Spain
>Source
Sansa Clip+ Rockbox
>Type of head-phone
not IEM, prefer earbuds
>Open or closed?
earbuds are open I guess?
>Comfort
Comfy
>Past headphones
Sennheiser MX 375

Oldfag here. 35+ yo. At that ancient age hair starts to grow in your ears so IEM's are out of the question, and you cant wear headphones in the street.

I ordered Monk Plus last 11.11, is it OK?

>Budget
200 eur max
>Location
germany
>Source
thinkpad
>Type of head-phone
IEM
>Comfort
over 5h every day, so plz comfy
>Past headphones
song studio monitors
akg k240
sennheiser iems (?)
Philips 3950 4 pairs
Philips 3700 current
Senfer UE900 (recently bought chinkshit, ultra hurts my ears, barely better than 3700 soundwise)
I need something that has a either a replaceable cable or is indestructable if i'm gonna be ponying up

>>57516346
how did you like the akg k240s?

>>57516363
Soundwise? I like the soundstage, not as flat as other headphones, but kinda quiet. Don't use them too often.

>>57516394
thank you! sorry i haven't got any advice for you anon

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>>57515787
>They open up and have a slight bit more low end with a good amp
>but its negligible
You mean nonexistent because that's not how amplification works. Motherboard codec can be a very good and capable amplifier for HD 598s.

>>57501481
MDR-7506 have a slight V-shape if they seal well on your ears and AKG K240 too. There aren't really V-shaped open backs available, not without equalization.

>>57515933
Kingston HyperX Cloud. Solid construction, fairly nice response and many seem to find them comfy. I did when I tried them out.

>>57515359
NVX Audio XPT100

>>57515322
Comfort is subjective so you best try models out. For sound I'd recommend MDR-7506 but DT770 are likely to be more comfortable due to the earpad size and padding.

>>57513312
Etymotic MK5 for neutral-bright or Etymotic HF5 for neutral-dark. Both are somewhat similar in their diffuse field equalized response to the HD 600 and both block out noise extremely well(nice for flights). Best sound you can get for this price, imo.

>>57516265
I have other Etys and I like foam.

>>57516291
It refers to the shape of the frequency response which is declining in amplitude in low frequencies. Basically bass amplitude gets gradually smaller the lower you go in frequencies. Pic related.

>>57516315
Try again.

>>57516324
VE Monk might be a decent choice. Apple EarPods too but they are ten euros more.

>>57516346
Shure in-ears are pretty nice comfort and build quality wise. They also have a good tip selection and a good quality replaceable cable. I'm not a huge fan of the sound of any of them personally but if that's not a main concern here, look for the SE215(bassy) or SE315(dark, recessed treble). Thomann probably has a good price on these.

>>57516453
Does that mean that the bass would be more quiet?

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>>57504519
>tfw no one replies

>>57516453
>Try again.
What is... best... amp... S-Superlux...668b


WTF???

>>57516564
you live in Puerto Rico and I am Puerto Rican :)
replied :)))))))

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>>57516529
Yes, it's just a very literal description of the shape of the frequency response where bass gets gradually quieter the lower you go compared to the rest of the spectrum. You can fix that with EQ.

>>57516564
>>57504519
What about those HD 25-1 IIs?

>>57516592
Possibly Benchmark DAC2 HGC but consider Lynx Hilo, too.

>>57516453
What the fuck is a dark, recessed treble?
I go through a lot of music daily, mostly the whole spectrum of metal, but also jazz, some hip-hop and instrumental shit; if that helps any.

>>57516651
>What about those HD 25-1 IIs?
Is it the absolute peak of portable, on-ear close headphones? I refuse to believe it.

>>57516453
Thanks for the response I have to fine someplace where I can try the Kingston out.

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>>57516651
<------------- thanks

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>>57516681
>What the fuck is a dark, recessed treble?
Means that the response is quieter in the treble range compared to the rest of the response. Basically less treble than what would be considered a "neutral" response. This is commonly described as dark. See picture of the SE315 response. Also here:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE315.pdf

>>57516702
It's one of the better ones definitely. There are not a lot of good on-ear headphones on the market, not many that have documented performance at least. What's good is subjective too. One headphone doesn't fit all comfort or sound wise. Beats Solo2 is actually good if you don't mind the brand and like a bassier sound but it's probably best if you could audition some as you are looking for the "best".

>>57516760
Before I spend half my rent on the SE215s, what can I expect from them compared to the Philips 3700 (successor to 3950 according to amazon)?

>>57517009
Better build, better comfort, better selection of tips and whats included in the package as well as bassy sound just as those Philips in-ears likely have.

Either the deal you are looking at is really shitty or you rent is really low.

>>57517070
Buying. Thanks for the info. Worst scenario is I've lost 2 days of work, best case scenario- I fall in love again
Can't wait for the day I have enough money to get sth godly

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so SoundMAGIC E10C are pretty much the go to earphones in it's category right?
Im thinking of getting one but I was wondering if the sound quality will be a lot better than my current £8 panasonics (pic related).

Also I'd have no use for the mic it comes with and i could care less about the volume button so I guess i'd be paying for features i don't really care about.

I guess my question is: Will the sound quality blow me away and make me never use these cheap panasonics again?

is it safe to assume ATH-IM70 = IEM version of M50s?

and Sony XBAH1 = IEM version of MDRv6s?

I'd like to pick some nice IEMs but idk where to start

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Budget: $350 (500$ max)

Source: High end PC / Gaming, a lot of Music listening

Isolation: don't need a lot. my current setup is pretty quiet.

Will you be using these Headphones in Public? No.

Type: Over ear, open pref. closed is ok.

Balance: Something that doesn't have a TON of Bass i like the clarity that i currently have with my HD598's but something with a little more bass than the HD598's would not be a bad thing.

Past Headphones: Sennheiser HD598.

Preferred Music: Big Range. From Twenty One Pilots to Rammstein and Death Grips to Gorillaz (Picture of some of my most listed if this helps find a fit at all. http://i.imgur.com/u8xuiKw.png)

TL;DR Looking for a decently sized quality upgrade from the HD598 since they are falling apart

>>57514467
send help

>>57517512
Some of the ones i have been looking at are
Beyerdynamic T90
Sennheiser HD700
Beyerdynamic T1
Audio Technica W5000
Hifiman HE 400i

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>>57517512

senn 6xx/650

an upgrade over your 598 in every single way, including the bass that you want. Otherwise he-400i but it can slam on the bass if you're okay with that

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BASED SAMSUNG IS RESCUING AKG FROM HARMAN, 2ND AKG GOLDEN AGE INCOMEING

>>57517814
>Beyerdynamic T90
ear rape
>Sennheiser HD700
Veiled
>Beyerdynamic T1
its ok
>Audio Technica W5000
horrid
>Hifiman HE 400i
literally the only good headphone in this lineup

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just ordered these bad boys

never had any headphones or earphones more expensive then 10$

what am I in for lads is it going to rock my world

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Are B&O headphones sounds good?

>>57518102
>CARBON LOOK
>2k16

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>mfw samsung cucks sennheiser into bankruptcy

>>57508123
I want to marry miku

Anyone have a pair of Sony MDR 7605s?
How are they?

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>>57518085
wanna suggest some others then bud :^)

>Budget: <$50?
>Location: US
>Type of headphone: IEMs.
>Open or closed: Don't care.
>Comfort level: As comfy as possible. I run so it'll be nice if they don't make much of the noises usual shitty overpriced IEMs bought from Target make when I move around.
>Sound signature: Neutral...? Leaning towards high is okay, I don't listen to much things that has a ton of bass?
>Past headphones: Shitty apple ear buds, store bought panasonics.

Basically just looking for something that is comfy and won't make weird noises when I move around a lot. Bonus points if it can be pastel ish pink or mint.

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>>57501073
>wireless headset not charging
>tried wiggling the connections
>tried three different usb cables
>open phones to see if the usb port has broken pins or something
>no obvious damage BUT I can get them to turn on by shorting the two right-most pins (pic related) with my screwdriver.

Will a permanent jumper fix them or make something worse happen?
Any other ideas on how to fix my phones?
Am I even in the right thread for this?

Hey /hpg/! I'm looking for headphones for general listening and maybe the occasional movie or game. I just want to enjoy high quality music.

I'm looking at the following, please let me know what you think and if there are any known issues with these:

M-Audio HDH50
AKG K550
beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro
beyerdynamic DT 990
aaaand maybe the ATH-M40x

>>57501073
Any deals coming up for the friday?

QC 35 would be nice, though I'm willing to get whatever as long as it's a good closed back porta-cans.

>>57513347
>>57506765
okay so that's great and all but i've been using them for all of one day and they've just all of a sudden completely stopped working so idk

>>57519698
oh my fucking god nevermind i'm a complete and total utter fucking idiot kill me

Note: I'm probably buying a separate microphone (currently looking at the blue snowball ice) so a headset recommendation is something I don't want.

>Budget
100-200$ not flexible
>Location
Canada
>Source
Desktop PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
So that they don't slide off my head every time I look down.
>Sound signature
Neutral, I listen to a lot of different shit (jrock, metal, classic rock)
>Past headphones
Logitech G430. Let me address my current issues with them and what I want on my new headphones.
1. They break so easily. This is my 3rd pair in 2(?) years I think. I'm tired of them. They're too quiet as well.

2. They slide off every time. Looking down means I have to readjust them every second and same thing with trying to lean back on my chair. I don't want a headset that makes me sweat near my ears when I wear them.

3. Sound quality feels like it could be better.

I was also looking at the sennheiser HD 598 but they're too expensive and I've read that they are really shit at playing anything other than classical music. ATH-M50x are also another option but they don't look comfortable.

Thanks for the help guys I really appreciate it. Hope that I gave enough info.

Best upgrade coming from a K550's in the 200-300 dollars range?
Could be open or closed, I don't mind either.
Should I even bother?

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Please respond!

>Budget
75-200
>Location
US
>Source
Samsung s7, occasionally my laptop or TV. I like ambient music (think brian eno), soft acoustic music, audiobooks, and various types of electronic music (hip hop instrumentals to happy hardcore)
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Good question, not sure. I want the sennheiser 558/598 but am worried about leakage, for example on public transit
>Comfort level
4-5 hours of comfiness. I need to be able to listen to audiobooks while laying back on my bed
>Sound signature
Not overly bassy, but I do like bass. I want to be able to hear all the frills of an ambient track. No punchy bass please, I like warm sub bass.
>Past headphones
Koss portapros, audio technica m40x, some bullshit monster in-ears that broke after a month. M40's are good but not comfy at all, and they are primarily for bass music

>>57520664
>am worried about leakage, for example on public transit
You're most likely going to need closed, open will leak enough sound for people near you to know that you're listening to music, and they won't help make things quiet either.
The dt770's seem to be very good for electronic music and I've heard they have excellent sub bass for a headphone. The 80 ohm is supposed to have the most bass out of all of the ohm variants, but you may need an amp depending on the amp that is driving them.

>>57510716
Thermal noise imposes noise floor bound, inherent to electrical components. The top of the line audio converters right now can manage under 1 µV. Particulars will depend on component arrangement, parallelization and the like, but it would be *very* surprising to see a converter that can reduce audio noise below several hundred nV.

Even if there is a definite limit to low level signals, you can still increase the signal output level. Some of these converters can have a little over 22 bits of SNR, with output level around 7-10 Vrms or so.

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Did I make a mistake?

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I just ordered these because I need closed back, portable, bassy headphones. Did I fuck up? Anyone listen to them before?

>>57501073
Who is the middle girl? I want to waifu her. Please give me a her name so i can propose.

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Currently have a HD598 and planning on upgrading

im looking at getting the Hifiman HE-400i with a amp and dac, would this be a decent upgrade?

any help/suggestions is appreciated.

>>57521170
Worstgirl McFattits
purple and green literally ruined that whole image.

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>>57521170
>he hasn't seen rabu raibu

>>57521322
Thanks for not eyeing my waifu anon, much appreciated.

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>>57521336
>he has seen love live and likely unironically thinks it's anything but garbage

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>>57521336
I haven't seen it but I know Nico is the best.

>>57521336
I found out her name, so sweet just like her. I adore her hair style and her whole self, she is my waifu.

>>57521336
>>57521363
cute nicos

>>57521204
p-pls respond

>>57518060
>2nd
where was the first? their headphones have always been trash.

>Budget
~$200
>Location
Canada
>Source
Motherboard / speakers
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed?
Closed
>Comfort
Maximum comfy
>Past Headphones
Shure SRH440. Unfortunately the small wire on one of the ears broke and now they don't work unless you hold the wire a certain way. The sound from them was quite good, but could use a bit more bass and could have been a bit more comfy for longer sessions.

>>57518085
>HD700
>veiled
are you actually retarded?

>>57521513
Spiky treble with recessed upper mids is not "detail".

>>57521558
spiky treble is not 'veil' you utter fucking retard. it is literally the opposite.

Are KZ ZS3s worth it, or are they overrated? Debating between trying a last ditch at IEMs and just saying fuck it.

ZS3s would cost me $9. Monk+s would cost me $15. Unsure what the hell to do.

Thoughts on MDR-1000X? I can acquire them for $120.

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>Budget
$200
>Location
Hungary
>Source
Scarlett 2i2
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
maximum
>Sound signature
slight v-shape
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681b

pls respond

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>>57521798
I love Murata's art.

How much will a modmic mount fuck up the sound of open headphones? Having a big-ass obstruction preventing the transmission of air seems like a pretty good way to mess things up.

>>57522245
I have a modmic mount on the K702, its sound isn't affected.

>>57522245
Probably the same amount as placing one of your fingers a cm over the driver, so not much I assume.

>>57521942
how anon let me in on that deal i tried it on a sony store once sounded pretty good tad bassy though

>>57521170
Nozomi Toujou, hf

>>57521204
Wouldn be an upgrade in my opinion, just a different sounding headphone. Forget the other gear for now and decide what kind of a headphone you truly want,audition models if you don't cutoff a clue. If needed, get an amplifier and a converter.

>>57521513
Since you can use that word pretty liberally, I think the HD 700 is definitely veiled in its own right. Broad bass/mid boost, upper mids scooped out and then a sharp treble spike.

>>57521942
Pretty meh. There are measurements at clarityfidelity blog. I found them really thick sounding, lacking clarity. That is a great deal regardless, the ANC is very good.

>>57522468
next you're going to tell me all beyers are veiled

>>57512997
I'm not even irish to begin with.

Been here a couple years, but looking into moving to tokyo.

>>57522473
Can't think of any that would have HD 700 magnitude of coloration. They are generally more linear.

>Budget
$~100
>Location
australia
>Source
phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
reasonably comfortable
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
iphone IEM

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FLAC Internet radio: mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Currently playing jpop.

Firefox 51 gets FLAC support and becomes stable on January 23. Eventually you'll be able to just listen to the stream in your browser.

Should I be listening in s16le or s24le if most music I listen to is 16 bit? Does 24 make it sound worse/better/no difference?

>>57522967
The unused bits makes no difference

>>57521143
Nah, the XB series are fairly good portable bassy headphones.

>>57522898
poorly mastered earcancer music in a meme inaudibly distinguishable from lossy format through shit tier equipment.

you really have nothing better to do, do you?

>>57522898
Sounds a bit crackly, or is it the song? Rising (Remix) - C.A.P. - Rising (Original Mix 01)

>>57522967
Just set it to 24 and be happy. It wont sound worse if you listen to lower bit audio, and you dont have to fiddle with stupid drivers like you often do with 32 and above.

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Are these any good, or is the price tag just because Ovewatch? If not so good, any better alternatives?

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>>57523085
>Are these any good
Pic related
>any better alternatives?
It depends on what you're looking for and what you need.

>>57523085
No. Razer headsets are shit. Headsets in general are shit.

Buy a pair of Hyper X Cloud Cores
Cheap, built well, and sound better than pretty much anything else on the market.

Only because they were originally just headphones that were reworked into a headset.

Headsets are always overpriced. Those especially.

>>57523076
It's a vinyl rip for extra audiophile quality

>>57523144
Digital -> analog -> digital better than digital -> digital?

>>57522967
It's not going to be audibly different. Resolution affects quantization error's noise floor which is plenty low on both for listening purposes. The noise of the recording and equipment you have is much more likely to have orders of magnitude higher noise floor than what the format limits. It doesn't hurt choosing 24 bits so use that.

>>57517254
" Theyre fairly flat and uninteresting. If you're into that then you might have a pair.

I prefer my Senfer UEs. They're good chi-fi. Fairly neutral, but still have low end kick with no boomyness. Removable cable too. ~34 USD "

Might pick up the e10 if there is no chi-fi available on the store i will look up into.

>>57523236
>fairly flat and uninteresting
As opposed to "interesting" coloration? I hate headphone reviews.

>>57523430
So do I. Sorry anon, I was just re quoting another anon's reply from my question.. which was also about the e10.

What do you think the odds of the 598 (or similar) will go on sale again for amazon's black friday? It was around $100 last year and I want to buy 2 more as presents this year

>>57523936
If there's still stock, good. Sennheiser introduced replacing series of HD 5xx-series headphones and I assume stores want to sell the older ones out.

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>>57519089
>tfw no replies
>tfw /g/ is full of technophobic consumerism

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anyone? >>57522064

>>57522064
Dt 990

>>57524419
Is there any difference in sound between 518/558/598 and 519/559/599?

>>57523236
How the fuck do you put those fuckers in without wanting to tear your ears off in 10 min? I tried all tips and all earpiece conformations, it hurts like ear rape.

>>57524570
Gotta ask from someone who knows EE enough to be confident you stupid Honker.

>>57524926
Likely some but likely small. There aren't any measurements out yet of the new lineup.

>>57519717
bump
help pls

>>57524926
Nobody has measured them yet. Hopefully it happens soon. Though I doubt the 5XX series will improve much if anything until there is a new 6XX series reboot.

Really you can just buy 558's or 518's and new ear pads, and then wait to see what slight modifications they do to make it sound different [If it they end up sounding better]

5XX series are built well enough at this point, so I doubt there will be much build improvement other than aesthetics

>>57522064
DT990

>>57505638
Com um pouco mais de dinheiro você poderia comprar um ótimo fone como o Q701 ou o DT990 nos classificados do HT Forum. Também recomendo esperar até a black friday só para confirmar, as vezes acontece de alguns modelos como o Philips L2 entrarem em promoção.

Ah, não confundir com Hot Forum que é especializado em prostitutas.

>>57505772
DT770 Pro 80ohms is exactly what you are looking for.

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>>57507129
It is currently going for 137 bucks on Amazon.

>>57525542
eugh fine your so pushy anon-kun~~~

>>57519717
598's aren't closed so I'm not sure why you're considering them, unless its not that much of an important factor. That said, you can buy HD 558's and take out a small piece of foam to get a near identical sound for cheaper. You can just stick it back on if you don't like the change.

Also the clamp on 5X8's aren't exactly amazing [though to be honest it aids to the great comfort of them] so you may have issues with them sliding off unless your head is hyuuge

They're fine for most genres though. They have a rolled off low end, but almost any full sized open over-ear does at that price range. I guess they may not be fantastic for Rap/Trap/Dubstep/other heavily bass reliant genres, but for anything else theyre perfectly competitive. You've probably interpreted the whole classic thing a bit wrong. They just excel at classical and jazz due to having quite present mids and upper highs.

M40x are better than M50x by the way. Most people here will agree. M50x are pretty heavily V shaped, so they wont fit in with the neutrality you want.
M40x are a decent bit more neutral in comparison. Though the entire ATH-M?0x series has horrible pads. You can buy HM5 pads for ~$22-24 USD, so even with the pads, M40x would be an option if you don't want total neutrality.

The clamp on the M?0x series is pretty decent too, so they wont' be falling off your head any time soon. Built well also.

If you want a more neutral alternative, check out Brainwavz HM5 or NVX XPT-100
Theyre both nearly identical. Whatever is cheaper/ships to Canada. They come with very comfortable pads stock too. Clamp is fine. Build quality isn't quite on par with M?0x series, though its not bad by any means.


If you can, go to a proper headphone/audio store and test out what you like. Words and reviews can go a long way, but nothing compares to direct auditioning. If you find that you do like M50x, also take a look at DT 770's.

>>57508834
see >>57525706
>>57514467
Testei a maioria desses, em minha humilde opinião o HD681 e o SE215 são os melhores em sua lista, o EVO apresenta menos durabilidade que o HD681, e o SE215 além de bastante resistente tem um ótimo isolamento.
(A propósito, onde está pretendendo comprar o SE215?)
Se puder também dê uma olhada nos classificados do HT Forum, eles sempre tem preços justos e fones em bom estado a venda.

>>57515348
>sufficent
Any. Your phone should be sufficient.

Either way, if you are going to get an amp, you should get an external one of some kind.

>>57519717
HD 598s aren't closed, just so you know.
>I was also looking at the sennheiser HD 598 but they're too expensive
How much are the HD 558s in leafland? They are nearly the same headphones as HD 598. Should consider them instead.
>and I've read that they are really shit at playing anything other than classical music
That is ridiculous and you won't really be finding any headphones more neutral than HD 558/HD598 in this price range making all your options equally shit for all other genres than classical. Sound signature, which is essentially just frequency response, for a musical genre is a shitty meme. Don't pay attention to those statements.

HD 598s don't clamp a lot so they might fall off.

For closed back try MDR-7506 or if you want something that truly stays on your head, HD 280 Pro.

>>57522492
Living the dream.
I'm visiting Japan for the first time next year.
I'd actually like to move there myself.

>>57524926
No, they are all muddy shit

Can we get advice for speakers here?
I'm looking to buy decent speakers to use with my computer. Should I go with passive speakers or powered ones? If I go with passive ones I need a desktop speaker amp, then connect that to a DAC which connects to the pc with usb or a combo amp/dac for passive speakers. With powered speakers I just need a DAC but those are best for people making music?
Which type of speakers are better for pc if it's just for listening to music and which amp/dac should I get?
Budget around 200$ without the speakers.

>>57526134
>t. AKG fanboy

>Budget
$1000
>Location
US
>Source
Schiit Modi Multibit and Magni 2 Uber
I also have a Little Dot MK3 for dat tube
>Type
Over Ear
>Open/closed
Open or Semi
>Comfort
I don't give a shit.
>Sound Signature
I tend to prefer warm cans, like super buttery warm all over your cock warm
>past headphones
DT880, DT770, AKG K553, Sennheiser HD 650

I've been looking at getting something from Audeze or Hifiman, any opinion?

>>57526148
>Which type of speakers are better for pc
There is no 'better type'. Passives are advantageous because the speakers cost less, so when changing speakers you don't have to pay for power and shit again. Also you typically get other controls on the amp end.

Actives are better because they include power outta the box. Theoretically it would 'better match the speakers', but any amp + passives that provides adequate power and is transparent enough [which is most] will give you the same experience in reality.

Just go passives + Amp + DAC [unless the speakers you want only come in active]
Its usually cheaper, and gives you more functionality and headroom for expansion. Actives are mostly bought by people who just want a simple solution like in home theater.

DACs aren't end source dependent. What one to buy depends on your budget.

For amps, find the RMS of the speakers you want to buy, and find an amp that satisfies it.

>>57526273
>DACs aren't end source dependent.
What do you mean?

Let's say I get 2 x 75W passive speakers and the SMSL SA-98E amp (160W) or the SMSL Audio A2 amp (55W) if I can power them enough?
A DAC like the Schiit Modi 2 would be good?
And say I want to add a headphone amplifier to the mix down the road how do I connect it to the DAC that is already connected to the speaker amp?

>>57526024
kys

>Budget
15 euros/10-15 dollars
>Location
Europe
>Source
Regular headphone jack I guess?
>Type of headphone
What types are there?
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Over 9000
>Sound signature
>Past headphones

>>57525650
Você acha viável comprar algum fone de fora? Ou é melhor ficar nos sites brasileiros? Além dos sites brasileiros, quais você recomenda que eu fique de olho durante a Black Friday?

>>57501073
why even have these threads

we all know those audiotechnicas are the ones to get.

>Budget
35$
>Location
Turkey
>Source
Laptop out jack
>Type of head-phone
whatever
>Open or closed?
whatever
>Comfort
just fuck my ears up
>Past headphones
chink shit

I want good bass because I listen to alot of nigger music being a sadnig myself

>>57526513
>What do you mean?
I mean that DACs dont care what the output is. All they need to do is convert digital to analogue.

>Let's say I get 2 x 75W passive speakers and the SMSL SA-98E amp (160W) or the SMSL Audio A2 amp (55W) if I can power them enough?

I think you're missing part of your sentence

>A DAC like the Schiit Modi 2 would be good?
Yeah. Literally any DAC works.

>And say I want to add a headphone amplifier to the mix down the road how do I connect it to the DAC that is already connected to the speaker amp?

Decent desktop DAC's typically have both RCA and either a 6.3/3.5 line out, or another set of RCA's with a switch to go between the two.
Put the speaker amp on RCA, and the headphone amp on line out

Though if your DAC doesn't have two switchable outputs, you can just buy/build a switch box.

>>57526570
Lá fora os fones tem preços bem melhores, porém você pode ser taxado e pagar uma pequena fortuna quando o fone entrar em terras tupiniquins, se conhecer alguém que possa trazer o produto para você sem problemas é uma boa comprar fora sim, caso contrário eu sugiro comprar por aqui mesmo.
DT770 80ohms está particularmente barato na Amazon por exemplo.
Eu normalmente compro os meus em lojas nacionais especializadas em áudio ou no HT Forum, a maioria dos usuários são audiófilos, então há uma certa tranquilidade quanto ao bom estado do produto usado.
Em reais pensa em gastar quanto exatamente? Rola de esperar e acumular mais ou é urgente?

>>57524419
Sweet. They're pretty incredible spatially and comfort-wise for use on a desktop PC and I think they'd just be about worth their regular price.

>>57526629
Não é urgente, mas gostaria de me manter abaixo dos 800 reais.

>>57523050
thanks, have you heard them by any chance? I'm just afraid that they'll be muddy as fuck with music that isn't supposed to be bass heavy, like acoustic or classical or something.

>>57526594
Sony MDR-XB450AP

>>57526934
They're not Beats tier muddy, but they will be slightly overwhelming, but that goes with all bass heavy headphones really.

I haven't heard the 950's, but I've heard the lower tier 250's, and theyre fairly good for the price.

The XB series are fairly well known for actually decent bass.

>>57526834
Comprei o Philips L2 por 600,00, talvez na Black Friday você consiga alguma promoção legal.
Se não me engano o Shure SRH 440 está por uns 600 também na Gang Music, está caro comparado ao valor lá fora, mas depois da crise todos estão...
Nos classificados do HT forum tem um M50X sem uso por 699,00.
O AKG K240 MKII está menos de 500,00 na Submarino.

>>57526993
thanks m8.

>>57526537
Explain.

>>57527052
>i wanna move to japan because anime xDDDD i've been learning japanaese for like 3 weeks now i know hiragana, i just want to live out the anime dream!!

>>57527052
he prob thinks you are another davido-kun

>>57527072
I'm not a weeaboo. I actually dislike the ken-sama mentality of people you describe, as well.
I'd only ever move to a foreign country if I was virtually fluent in the language.