/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

delete this repulsive picture please....
it has a bad OS on it

>>57425949

Are you joking? Why would you need to know a programming language to create PKGBUILDs? You don't even need proper Bash knowledge, all you have to do is fill in required information.

>>57426645

Is there an equivalent for the free drivers? How come there's no way to get rid of tearing on the free drivers, with reasonably old hardware, that doesn't involve running a compositor (Compton)?

>>57426865
>OS
It's only a magtape, and it doesn't even have a working kernel, unlike Linux distributions

>>57426993
I didn't know that. I just thought knowledge of C would help since I'm learning that right know and it's a lot of fun!

Friendly reminder that we have a /wg/ thread.
Contribute your OC now!
>>>/wg/6743571
>>>/wg/6743571
>>>/wg/6743571

Arch or Debian?

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>>57427457
Debian:
1. Respects your freedom first and foremost, according to a social contract.
https://www.debian.org/social_contract
2. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to non-free software, if you want/need it.
3. Stable by default.
4. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to a rolling release, if you want/need it.
5. Has a constitution to give no single entity too much power over decisions.
https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution
6. One of the eldest and most influential distros to this day.

>>57427614
I know this is stupid question, but is there a good video of how to instal Debian ?
I found shitton for Ubuntu/Mint but those Debian ones are just, meh.

I expect something oriented for window pleb.

>>57427614
Thanks.

Hello all, quick question concerning battery life and laptops running linux. What is the best software to simply install and get better bat life

>>57427614
but apt and obsolete kernels (e.g. linux 3.2) are an abomination.

Can someone tell me what OS to change to, using windows 7 currently, gaming isn't an issue, who doesn't want to upgrade to windows 10, is open to using linux, want's customizability + secuirty.

what OS do I choose? or which distro of linux do I choose?

thx

I'm using Linux Mint and you can't do anything. Triggered?

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>>57427735
powertop can help to discover programs which leech too much power and it has options to enable some native powersave modes.

>>57427760
Enjoy getting cracked by 12 year old Kali users.

>>57427767
what about TLP, is good, no?

>>57427759

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

tl;dr Ubuntu

Why exclude BSDs?

-_-

>>57427759
Install Arch Linux. They force you to setup the system just the way you want, and by doing so you will learn about the inner working of Linux

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>>57427457
Fedora:
1. Respects your freedom but knows people want a "just works" os so it falls back on known working drivers if a free option doesn't work.
2. Allows you to opt-in to non-free software with community maintained repo's, if you want/need it.
3. New and Stable by default.
4. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to a rolling release, if you want/need it.
5. Has a community driven environment.
6. One of the most stable distros

>>57427883
7. NSA
8. Red Hat
9. Pottering

>>57427924
>paranoid

>>57427964
More like
>Too much source code

>>57427964
It's just logic. A agency, known for spying, makes partnership with Red Hat.

>>57427883
>Has a community driven environment.
>implying this is something good
LOL

>>57427992
You can write open source code intentionally to be vunerable.

>>57428028
Samsung have invested in NK. Samsung support the dictatorship of NK. It's just logic.

>>57428044
It's impossible to review the code. Sure.

>>57427754
This. You just cannot ship such obsolete software under the guise of "stability" when there are laptops released mid 2014 that just won't boot on anything lower than 3.14 and will only work properly on >3.18

For a couple of months I was stuck on arch derivatives because they were the only ones that released installation media with a recent enough kernel to even boot on my machine.

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That was easy. You basement dwellers are so easily triggered and baited..
Thanks for the (you)'s.

>>57427457
Just go the meme way:

Mint -> Antergos -> Arch -> Gentoo

Otherwise: >>57427614

>>57428114

>>57427715
The manual itself gives more than enough guidance. Please Google

debian installation manual

. Protip: the netinst image may not have the firmware for all your devices. Consider either using the full image or including the nonfree firmware .deb packages in the firmware directory of your installation medium.

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>Where in the world is Richard Stallman?

President and founder of the Free Software Foundation Richard Stallman has an extensive travel schedule and frequently gives talks about free software all over the world.

If you would like Richard Stallman (RMS) to speak at your event, please contact [email protected].

If you would like RMS to come to your school and speak, try asking professors in IT-related departments if they would like to bring him. They can contact [email protected].

You can find video and audio recordings of many of Dr. Stallman's speeches and lectures at audio-video.gnu.org.

Nov 10, 2016 01:30 PM Lisbon, Portugal Event Richard Stallman - "Should We Have More Surveillance Than the USSR?" (Lisbon, Portugal)
Nov 10, 2016 04:10 PM Lisbon, Portugal Event Richard Stallman - "Reclaim Your Freedom with Free (Libre) Software" (Web Summit, Lisbon, Portugal)
Nov 11, 2016 04:00 PM Barcelona, Spain Event Octet Stream Richard Stallman - "El Software Libre y Tu Libertad" (Barcelona, Spain)
Nov 12, 2016 10:30 AM Barcelona, Spain Event Octet Stream Richard Stallman - "La informática y la libertad" (Barcelona, Spain)
Nov 18, 2016 12:00 AM Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain Event Octet Stream Richard Stallman to speak at GNU Health Con 2016 (Las Palmas, Spain)
Nov 26, 2016 11:45 AM Seville, Spain Event Richard Stallman - "¿Tenemos que soportar más vigilancia que en la Unión Soviética?" (Seville, Spain)
Nov 29, 2016 11:00 AM Salamanca, Spain Event Octet Stream Richard Stallman - "El software libre en la ética y en la práctica" (Salamanca, Spain)
Nov 30, 2016 12:00 PM Alcala de Henares, Spain Event Richard Stallman - "El movimiento del software libre" - Alcala de Henares, Spain
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What happens if you press CONTROL-D after typing the following commands?
a) ls ab
b) less a

These are in a working directory with all files starting with ab or a.

Using TC shell if that matters?

>>57427715
>>57428192
https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install
Here you go. Not a video, but easier to jump around for references.

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>>57427883
The logo sucks.

>>57427754
1. What is specifically wrong with apt?
2. You can upgrade to Debian Testing or Sid for a newer kernel

>>57428258
Stop falling for 0/10 bait.

>>57427806
My battery life pretty much doubled after I installed TLP. I think it's so simple and works so well that it's practically necessary on any laptop running GNU/Linux.

>>57428274
But doesn't it throttle the CPU thus making the laptop sluggish

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Is this book any good?

>>57428354
>doesn't have GNU
yeah i'd say it's pretty good

>>57428234
anyone?

>>57427883
1. It necessarily compromises your freedom, even if you don't want/need it to.
2. True.
3. True.
4. Is Rawhide usable?
5. Not sure what this even means. Fedora Project is funded by Red Hat and Red Hat is liable for anything that FP does.
6. Repeat of point #3

So overall worse than Debian because it necessarily compromises freedom and it's practically owned by Red Hat (a single entity which cooperates with the NSA). Also the Fedora installer is terrible.

>>57428287
Only if necessary. Most of its work is ensuring it doesn't stay at a 100% multiplier when iddle.

By adding discard in fstab does it auto trim all the time or should I just run alis command daily instead?

>>57428354
I had a look on Amazon. It looks pretty good if you're entirely new to GNU/Linux and don't know where to start.

If you already know how to navigate a terminal, what a window manager is and how to scp a file, I would get something else.

>>57428522
>I had a look on Amazon. It looks pretty good if you're entirely new to Linux and don't know where to start.
Fixed that for you.

>>57428522
Huh, I actually know what these are. I mean, I've been using Linux for one year and a half now so I know the basic terminology and some useful commands.

Could you recommend me a good book, then?

>>57428554
Please stop being cancer.

>>57428673
>using Linux is cancer
leave this thread then and stop being cancer

why is screenfetch -s returning "command not found: -s" on zsh?

>>57429092
Maybe zsh looks uses a different PATH variable than bash. I don't use zsh, so I don't know for sure, but it would explain your problem.

What's the best distro for use in Syria?

>>57428234
I'm getting pissed. I created the directory and everything to test it. I get I get "No such file or directory" for both commands

>>57429092
Why are you using zsh if you don't know how a shell works anyway?

>>57429092
Maybe you don't have scrot installed?

>>57429344
His bloated distro probably has everything installed.

What's the best way to set up a Windows 10 and Arch dual boot, installing with Arch Anywhere? Do I partition the disk in Windows? Do it in the installer? Boot into a Ubuntu live ISO and do it from there?

>>57429832
>he fell for the arch meme

>>57429832
You shouldn't use Windows since it's malware.

>>57429832
If you are new, use Ubuntu.

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>>57429869
>>57429888

>>57429902
>>57429869
I've only used Arch on my Macbook but not a Windows system, I just got a Windows laptop again after using my Macbook since 2011.

>>57429888
Okay, I should just run all my programs that don't have native Linux support on Linux anyways

What distro should I put on my old netbook so it doesn't run like shit? I only care about web browsing, coding, office programs, maybe watching a movie occasionally. What's the least bloated distro that can still run things?

I'm searching which GPU to buy for my Linux desktop.

I'm willing to put 200€ - 250€.

I don't want AMD because of the bad performance on open source drivers.

So only NVIDIA.

Do you know which model work FLAWLESSLY on linux ? (last kernel)

The filesize reported in Linux, e.g. "MB" is different than what's reported in 4chan's "MB".

>>57430466
Wouldnt literally any of the fairly minimal ones do, provided you configure it properly?(ie not leaving all the kernel modules on in arch)
Gentoo is the obvious answer, maybe the compiling and use flags would be meaningful here.
Regardless, I'd think just pick any small distro and how you set it up will be more important than the distro itself.

>>57430466
Anything with xfce could be a good start. Puppy Linux or similar if we're talking about something really old (<2GB RAM)

>>57430660
>want to squeeze memory out of shitty hardware
>using a DE
why

>>57427614
>freedom
>systemd

>>57430677
>using a DE
>why
Maybe he has a job..

>>57430630
I also don't want to spend a shitton of time setting it up. If it has an installer with y/n options to shut things off that'd be good.

>>57430660
Atom netbook with 1GB and a 5400 hard drive. :^)

>>57430681
it's literally free as in freedom software

>>57427883
>free
>systemd
just fuck off already

>>57430698
See >>57430698

>>57430731
i didn't see the second instance of that dumb fuck misleading others with systemd distros

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>>57430765
Systemd is free as in freedom.

Anyone on Arch using the now-official 375.10 nvidia drivers? Can you confirm Wine/Playonlinux works fine?
It was broken for me when the driver was still in AUR

>>57430839
I saw another anon using nvidia beta drivers from the AUR, without tearing.

>>57430683
>USING A DE
>SMUG ANIME GIRLS.JPG
>LAUGHING WHORES
>HAHA BABBY
>I USE DWM, ONLY GRADE SCHOOLERS USE A DE
>[picture of riced out DWM featuring them browsing ero dojins]
>LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
there, now its out there. There you go. seeth and cry and yell at the strawman till you feel better, then come back.
ok? better?
Now that thats out of the way
>Using a DE
>When the aim is to get more use out of very shitty hardware
>instead of a WM that'd take less memory
>when memory is very limited
>and if your enviornment uses MORE memory, you have LESS memory!! :(((((
>>57430684
Puppy linux is the only one I can think off off the top of my head, if thats the case. Perhaps one of those distros of debian or arch that are preconfigured with openbox or something, but I dont know too much about them. Search distrowatch or something.

>>57430853
was probably me, but the dependancies were fucked and I couldn't get an .exe to run on PlayonLinux.
Literally everything was the same as last time it worked, except the drivers

why cant I use arbitrary unicode in my system hostname? And I have to use the low level useradd to add a user with unicode in their name?
Fucking hell

Any negatives to replacing osx and going balls deep Linux on my laptop? Any problems will I encounter?

What can I use to replace itunes for offline music and something to transfer music to my phone?

>>57430967
>What can I use to replace itunes for offline music and something to transfer music to my phone?

Spotify

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>>57426833
How do I change osmo tray icon? I just need to know where's the icon that's being used there so i can change it or the name so I'll just add it to the icon theme.

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>>57427053
>>57427735
>>57427759
>>57427854
>>57428554
>>57428566
>>57430160
>>57430503
>>57430967
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57431010
>Spotify
cancer

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>>57430908
>Unicode in names

>>57431017
Thanks Dr. Stallman

>>57431017
Thank GNU!!!

I'm using Debian stable.
My hard disk is partitioned like this: 12GB root, 900GB home

I want my tmp folder to exist on the home partition, to avoid running out of /tmp space when making long recordings in audacity.

So I removed /tmp, created /home/tmp with permissions 1777, and created a symlink at /tmp pointing to /home/tmp and it seems to work fine except that the /tmp folder doesn't get cleared at boot/shutdown.

I'm guessing that's because the procedure that tries to clear the /tmp folder happens before the /home/ partition is mounted.

Any suggestions on what to do about this? I've googled boot order, tmp clearing, etc etc, haven't managed to find anything yet.

>>57431133
Finding a job is a better solution.

>>57431157
what?

>>57431165
Please stop shitposting.
>>57431165
You too.

>>57431206
are you a GNU supporter?! answer me!!!
*points a firearm also known as a gun at you*

>>57431157
if you're a cuck then yea

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>>57431220
>>57431165
>>57431079
>Being a manchild

>>57431257
I don't see post numbers but I see ur mum every night XD

>>57431291
dad?

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>>57431220
>>57431165
>>57431079

You have autism.


You may not notice, but you do.
I bet you don't even wear underwear under your trousers.


I'm going to kiss your dog and make love with your sister.
There's only one way to cure yourself. Delete / and hang yourself, you fucking autistic cunt.

>>57431378
>dad
I'm uncle tyrone, son

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I got tricked into installing linux. Whats the best way of removing it?

>>57431402
Maybe install MS office in WINE.

I bet that shit will force install windows 10 at updates.

>>57431039
>Pajeet fired from his job at microsoft, hates windows now
>Downloads GNU/linux
>asked to name his computer, but his keyboard doesnt have latin script
>forbidden from using poo smears as a name
>cries, throws computer out the window into the shitting street
Have a heart.
no for real tho this is some bullshit

>>57429337

Don't expect common sense from those people.

>>57431439
>autistic basement dweller has no jobs
>no life
>no friends
>posts on /g/ 24/7 and shills debian for free
>sever autism kicks in
>"gotta replace my hostname with ebic /b/ tier unicodes"
>expects autism hugbox in flt
Take your pills

>>57431381
i indeed do LOL
>I bet you don't even wear underwear under your trousers.
i do though
>I'm going to kiss your dog
nahhh i don't even ahve one come on
>make love with your sister
i wish :)
>There's only one way to cure yourself
but autism isn't curable 0_o
>Delete / and hang yourself,
wow... that's so bad please don't say that again!
>you fucking autistic cunt.
:(

>>57431517
>what are warnings
back to the website you came from, "mate"

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>install arch
>nothing ever works
>spending more time googling how to configure shit than actually using my PC
>install ubuntu
>everything just werkz

@57431665
why did you make this post?

>>57431665
Arch comparable to ubuntu-server, Antergos is comparable to ubuntu-desktop.

Educate yourself.

>>57431665
why did you put yourself through the pain of arch
use debian already

>>57431722
debian is an SJW virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34PsSSBvgIM

>>57431402
Installing linux-libre instead

>>57431699
I'm using ubuntu server and no, it's not.

>>57431699

>Arch comparable to ubuntu-server
Let's see how they compare in regards to defining distribution features.

>release schedule
Ubuntu: fixed
Arch: rolling

>package policies
Ubuntu: heavy patching, no license restrictions
Arch: no patching if possible. no license restrictions

>package manager
Ubuntu: apt/dpkg
Arch: pacman

It's not even similar. How about YOU educate yourself before spreading wrong information and myths?

>>57431793
>package manager
>Ubuntu: apt/dpkg
>Arch: pacman
Of course, idiot they are different distros. I'm not saying they are the same, I'm saying they are comparable, autist

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>>57431772
I'm using it myself and yes, they are comparable

>>57431826

How are they comparable? I just listed reasons why they aren't.
You're probably going to say "they both offer a minimal base to install from". Guess what, stock Ubuntu does that too. There is no difference between Ubuntu Server and stock Ubuntu, apart from the preinstalled packages.

>>57431862
Not even close, friendo

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>57431954
not arch and not debian

>>57431954

Fuck that daily use. I need a distro for fortnightly use.
What's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro, but for nightly use?

>>57431905
>I just listed reasons why they aren't.
You listed reasons why they are not the SAME instead of COMPARABLE

1. Both do not have x.org server in default installation
2. No username/hostname defined
3. Similar install size
4. 3rd party builds like PPA or AUR

>>57431954
as always: debian sid

>>57431977
He said lightweight
and user friendly

>>57431974

>1. Both do not have x.org server in default installation
Every distribution doesn't have it, because every distribution offers a minimal installer.

>2. No username/hostname defined
See above.

>3. Similar install size
See above.

>4. 3rd party builds like PPA or AUR
See above.

According to you, every distribution is the same and comparable. According to you, we don't need any distributions, because they're all the same.

>>57432003
Didn't say minimal, sensible software collection are pre installed in Arch

>see above
>see above
>see above
Thanks for making yourself look like an idiot

For SSD trim use

is it best to do noatime,discard in fstab or just running trim command manually daily or so?

What Debian version is Ubuntu based on?

>>57432038
ubuntu is more up to date than debian stable I know that. but not exactly sure. I think ubuntu choose some of their own updates

>>57432038
I think they use a stretch snapshot and go from there.

alright, be me
>ubuntu 16.04
>gtx 980
>install 370 graphics driver (most up to date)
>install flash-plugin and media codecs (inb4 flash)
>using chromium
>play youtube video 1080p 60fps
>screen always has tearing on the top of the video if there is any sudden movement in the video

WTF I can't fix this no matter what I do...changing drivers, enabling/disabling hardware acceleration in chromium, using html5, I can't get it to go away...why? Also locally played videos through things like mpv have 0 tearing (unless it's on a secondary monitor/tv (which i don't think I will ever get fixed either) Can anyone help?

>>57432298
>flash

>>57432373
it's a plugin faggot

>>57432034
I have noatime in fstab but I trim manually on my shutdown script.

>>57426833
best minimal distro for using in virtualbox?

>>57432034
Avoid using discard on modern ssd's.
Use fs-trim and set it to trim once a week, anything more is damaging to the ssd

>>57432298
what DE?

if xfce4 install compton also theres an nvdia option that helps but i cannot help you in that department

>>57432715
Thanks that is what I was wondering. I recall this some years back too

>>57432653
OpenSUSE is pretty good, last time I installed it in VirtualBox it automatically installed the virtualbox-guest drivers and shit from the repos (https://software.opensuse.org/package/virtualbox-guest-x11).

>>57432721
unity

What is the difference between multiverse and universe on ubuntu?

>>57432760
Okay, I'll give it a go.
Thanks!

>>57432298
>flash
What is wrong with you, buddy.

>>57432846
you probably are one of those people that expects em to open every video I watch on the internet with livestreamer or youtubedl

>>57432874
Try this:
- disable flash
- go to random youtube video
- shit brix

>>57426833
which eee pc do I buy to put some linux on it and be fast and mobile.

What OS would u guys recommend for anonymity(mostly)/security?

>>57432892
No shit dipwad, i know that youtube uses html5 but I get fucking screen tearing even with html5 videos. Adobe is uninstalled from my system now, same problem

>>57432967
Install compton.
>>57432963
GNU/Linux

>>57432987
Which distribution?
Or it doesnt really matter?

>>57432038
Ubuntu makes a release every six months, and supports those releases for 18 months with daily security fixes and patches to critical bugs.

As Ubuntu prepares for release, we “freeze” a snapshot of Debian's development archive (“sid”). We start from “sid” in order to give ourselves the freedom to make our own decisions with regard to release management, independent of Debian's release-in-preparation. This is necessary because our release criteria are very different from Debian's.

As a simple example, a package might be excluded from Debian “testing” due to a build failure on any of the 11 architectures supported by Debian “sarge”, but it is still suitable for Ubuntu if it builds and works on only three of them. A package will also be prevented from entering Debian “testing” if it has release-critical bugs according to Debian criteria, but a bug which is release-critical for Debian may not be as important for Ubuntu.

As a community, we choose places to diverge from Debian in ways that minimize the difference between Debian and Ubuntu. For example, we usually choose to update to the very latest version of Gnome rather than the older version in Debian, and we might do the same for key other pieces of infrastructure such as X or GCC. Those decisions are listed as Feature Goals for that release, and we work as a community to make sure that they are in place before the release happens.

source: section 1.2.1.2 https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/armhf/ch01s02.html

>>57433005
Tails is a distro for security/anonymity

>>57433025
>security
Tails uses vanilla Linux. If you need security, you should only use free software such as Linux-libre.

Where can I find themes for GTK ? Specially for the icons ?

>>57432987
i'm pretty sure you can't use compton with unity....

>>57433106

GNOME look and DeviantArt.
Icons and themes are separate and there are no GTK icons; icons are toolkit agnostic.

>>57432807
universe is community maintained software
multiverse is Ubuntu speak for non-free

How do I do this?

List the startup files used with the TC Shell in the order these are executed.

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>>57432807

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redpill me on systemd

>>57433188
put in each
echo "Hi, I am ${0}."

>>57433637
it's the cancer killing linux
also botnet

>>57433637
No one really knows what it is. We just say things like "it ruins the Linux philosophy" and that it's "botnet" for the bantz.

>>57433637
*redpills you on systemd*

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I got ubuntu 16.04, xfce
I was rotating my screen and now my fonts appear jagged and blurred.
What's a fix?

>linux babby
>been using ubuntu from day 1
>constant issues with 32bit libraries, games, etc
>sick of it, decide to use a non-ubuntu distro
>pick manjaro for some reason
>everything works out of the box

not sure why i had so many issues with ubuntu but i really didn't expect things to be different with another distro, especially not one based off arch. additionally i love xfce now. simple and customizable.

>>57434003
Depends...
Who are you voting for?

>>57434050
Trump.
How's infinality? Can I just install it and get results?

>>57434096
Good.
It's pretty good. Yes.

>>57433637
if you want a serious awnser check /r/linux. You'll just get meme responses and copy/pasta tin foil posts.

I thought Windows wouldn't overwrite the boot partition in UEFI, looks like I was wrong. What's the fastest/easiest way to restore /boot? I've got a live Linux usb drive

>>57434096
>voting a macfag

>>57426833
I sure do love cock in my ass and mouth.

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>>57434511
at least he knows how to use a pc

>>57434096
>>57434110
Reminder that memes should end when it comes to real life.
Trump is a dangerous person.

>>57426833
Hey guys, I am having an issue with cinnamon desktop and Warcraft 3, this machine has two monitors the left monitor is my primary and the right is my secondary. Everytime I try to launch Warcraft 3 be it via terminal or the launcher I created it always opens up on the secondary monitor. Is there anyway to force it to display on my primary monitor?

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>>57433786
How to spot a NEET?
>He calls systemd a ""botnet""

>>57434972
not sure, maybe with the env variable DISPLAY?

how the heck do i customize grub on debian
on ubuntu i just used a ppa to get grub-customizer, on arch it was on the default or aur idk basically really simple why is debian so retarded

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I was about to install Ubuntu but I read that it comes with an amazon spyware program so I put my eyes on Kubuntu.
I'm a new used and it's going to replace windows.

What are the main differences between these?
inb4 google it, I would like to hear the opinion of experienced fellow /g/entlemen

>>57435008
Could you elaborate a little bit more on that please?

>>57435034
>Debian
Why do people fall for this stupid fucking distro?
>>57435039
Difference is in desktop environments

>>57435039
Just desktop environments really, they're both pretty resource hungry.

>>57435034
https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/+download
build it yourself?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=117971

>>57435039
kubuntu uses kde which has a great many minor annoyances, more so than other environments. sure it's flashy and shiny so it attracts the eye of new users, but with its issues it quickly turns a lot of people off of linux

>>57432653
CoreOS

>>57435039
They use the same repositories. The difference is just the default desktop manager you get with the installer. You can install the other one through the repos if you want. And you can uninstall the Amazon botnet thing anyway.

I accidentally installed debian stable, how to I upgrade to unstable?

>>57435285
You could switch the repo config in you sources.list and do a dist-upgrade but I would just install it over from the start. Sometimes moving from one branch of debian to the other can leave old annoying configuration files.

>>57435285
Upgrading from Stable is actually the preferred way to install Testing or Unstable.
To upgrade, you
- Edit the file: /etc/apt/sources.list
- Replace all instances of "jessie" with either "unstable" or "sid" (purely personal preference between the two).
- Remove the lines with either "update" or "security" in them because unstable doesn't need extra updates or security patches
- run apt update
- run apt full-upgrade (or apt-get dist-upgrade)

It's also preferred to have a minimal installation (e.g. no DE) before upgrading, because the large gap between versions when upgrading is more likely to lead to issues.

I have two wireless adapters and run Gentoo. One is wlan0, and the other is wlan1. How do I figure out which is which?

Trying to fix hibernation. I tried all the a) tests in the basic pm debugging guide (https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt) and they all pass. I don't have any way to test_resume as the guide implies I should, though. Enabling CONFIG_PM_DEBUG and CONFIG_PM_ADVANCED_DEBUG didn't seem to change anything.

>>57436116
Use non-legacy names and ifconfig.

>>57426833
What are some pornographic games for linux?

>>57426833
How do I average two ints aga- oh right. this isn't /dpt/

Ignore this post

>>57426833
Distro focused on low latency music production?
I want to get rid of mac and windows but I need decent software that I could get used to and rely on for making high quality electronic music

>>57436495
Most GNU/Linux distros have special low-latency versions of Linux in their repos. Just install a vanilla distro like Ubuntu and change the kernel to a low-latency version.

>>57436495
Gentoo + jack

>>57436553
nice meme

>>57436564
The only meme here is you.

>>57436553
>>57436551
I'm looking into KXStudio at the moment because it comes with a few things like Jack and cadence.
I know very little about Jack so I guess I'll need to look into it more

>>57436567
>suggesting gentoo to a new user
>not understanding what low latency means

>>57436592
Oh the irony

>>57436217
Ifconfig lists MAC addresses, which I understand are specific to each card, but since I don't know that MAC addresses of my cards that doesn't help me determine which is which. I am wondering whether there is a way to correlate the type of information listed by lspci, which includes vendor names and model numbers and so on, with the interface names. How would you do it on a system with a non-legacy naming scheme? I could pull one card out and take note of the MAC address of the remaining one, but it seems like there should be a way to do it from within the operating system.

>>57436783
stop using legacy names, fgt

>>57436870
Okay. Done. Now what? How do you do this on a system without legacy names?

>>57436870
>>57436217
The answer to my question is apparently to use the "udevadm" command. Do everyone here a favor and stop responding to questions that you don't know how to answer. It makes people less likely to get real answers.

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newbie here. I can run programs by just typing the name of it into the terminal right. But after I do so I lose the green part of the terminal and the ability to type any new commands in and if I close the terminal it closes the program i have open. How do i keep using the terminal and keep the program open when the terminal is closed? It's in mint.

>>57437069
using an ampersand, directing to null, or installing gentoo.

>>57437069

clementine & disown

"&" puts a program in the background (you can see it when entering "jobs", fg puts it back into the foreground
"disown" makes sure that the program will stay open even when the shell ends

>>57437109
is using screen a good idea?

>>57437109
& is enough in most cases

>>57437109
allrighty thanks.

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Very noob type question but I tried installing ubuntu on a toshiba satellite CL45 using a USB. I wiped all previous data and did a clean install of ubuntu. However it does not want to... stick. Whenever I unhook the USB from the laptop it will not boot. Whenever I restart the laptop it asks me if I want to install ubuntu.

I looked on a few forums and all I could find was something about turning off UEFI in the Bios. However when I go to the Bios the UEFI part is grayed out and can't be changed.

>>57437121
No, it's not. It's annoying when you kill a shell and the graphical program you forked from it closes.

>>57437381
In the bios, there should be a list of things you can boot to. It could be named grub, linux boot manager, Ubuntu, or anything.

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Where is the change log? REEEEEEEEEEEE

>ChangeLog in the git repo
>last updated 4 years ago

>>57437856
they did a complete overhaul

>>57437856

My hate towards Linux Mint grows largers.
https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/1333

>making your GTK application not compatible with the default theme
>expecting upstream to change their software to fit your specific case

How do I make my terminal window look pretty?

What are some good DE/WM setups?
I'm currently using GDM and Gnome on Wayland.

I'm looking for lightweight, pretty, and fairly user friendly to configure.

Also what are some good file managers. Nautilus has some annoying tendancies, primarly typing automatically starts a search I prefer the Windows way where typing goes to the first entry with that letter.

Thank you.

>>57437985

>How do I make my terminal window look pretty?
You choose a colour scheme and eventually edit to PS1 prompt to something useful or to something ridiculous like the majority of idiots.

>What are some good DE/WM setups?
That's a stupid, subjective question.
Look into all the available environments and decide for yourself.

>I'm looking for lightweight, pretty, and fairly user friendly to configure.
Lightweight is a buzzword, with no meaning. User friendly too and "easy to configure" is subjective. No one can tell you this, but yourself after testing it on your own.

>Also what are some good file managers
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#Graphical_9

If I use tar -cf archive.tar + the absolute archives path it compresses all the folders in the path like home and my user folder too. How do I compress only the files/folders with tar?

>>57438035

Open a web browser. Open the search engine of your choice. I recommend Startpage. Enter keywords of the problem you're experiencing. In this case, enter the following:
>tar don't include path
Click one of the links, I recommend the first one.

Is there a way to set a global variable that I can use inside functions? If so, teach me senpai.

>>57438111

export cocks="dick"
echo "$cocks" 

Hey /g/, shall I remove the PPAs once I installed the progams in Ubuntu?

>>57438172

How do you expect to get future updates?

>>57438035
what i do is;
tar -cf archive.tar -C /absolute/path .

>>57438216
I guess I shouldn't, thanks anon.

faglet haha

So I have a perfectly good setup here with Xubuntu. Not many things bug me about it. Maybe sometimes the monitor doesn't show anything and I have to switch between sessions but I guess that's it really.

Now, is there a valid reason to switch to anything else? Say, debian or arch or whatever the fuck.

>>57428280

>>57438867

wtf i hate firefox now?! what's my opinion about that? do i still hate pulseaudio /g/?

that's it, i'm switching back to Windows. i don't want to use pulseaudio because it's an NSA botnet that doesn't respect the UNIX philosophy.

What type of laptop would I need for QubesOS?
The system requirements for just minimal are pretty hefty and it doesn't really specific what the recommended should be

Install OpenBSD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC5D9fenQBs

>>57439454
Why? What benefit is there to running OpenBSD instead of GNU/Linux?

>>57439454
why is he running ubuntu?

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>>57439454
Why is /g/ filled with the new kind of hipsters?
>Wake up in the morning
>Go back to the terminal you left open last night for increased uptime and powerlevel

>It's Void Linux with no Xorg

>Runit instead of Systemd
>LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL
>Clang instead of GCC
>Musl instead of glibc or
>Uclibc instead of libc
>Busybox instead of coreutils
>ZSH instead of bash
>rEFIt instead of grub
>Patrician ed instead of nano
>Screeny instead of screenfetch
>Wicd instead of Network Manager
>Organic water instead of tap water


>Compile herbslutwm and install vivaldi
>Go to 4chan, browse /soc/

>Manages to chat with a "fem"anon
>"What do you do in leisure?"
>My choices of entertainment are somewhat recherché
>"Tell me more"
>Euphoric.gif
>Eat no proteins, only dead, organic vegetables
>I prefer Ballad to what you call "mainstream songs"
>I don't like smokers, I prefer vaping, guilty charged
>I own a Penny-farthing vélocipède for transportation
>femanon freaks out and stops responding

>Go to >>>/g/
>Fuck systemd botnet
>Fuck bash, noob
>Fuck GNU
>lol are you still using gcc in $currentyear?
>I personally use BSD for my primary operating system
>Muh Unix
>Muh philosophy


ISHYGDDT

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>>57439552
>Why is /g/ filled with the new kind of hipsters?

autism

I have a 4 drive mdadm array in raid10 configuration.

If I move the drives to different sata ports will they just be detected like normal on boot or will I have to 'find' them first?

>>57437113
Nope. Use tmux instead.

>>57439463
>GNU
>trying this hard to fit in
>>>/r/eddit

>>57439858
Fuck off, Linux is a kernel

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>>57439876
Stay rectally shattered, FSFcuck.

>>57439876
Freetard detected. Can't wait for RMS to die really.

>>57439891
I recognize that Linux is more commonly used, but I don't mindlessly follow the majority and prefer to be less ambiguous.

>>57439876
>being a faggot rms supporter
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/r/communism

>>57439911
So you're a hipster? Okay, nice double dubs thouogh.

>>57439911
>I don't mindlessly follow the majority
>I use GNU/Linux
LOL
pick one and only one

>>57430866
>>I USE DWM, ONLY GRADE SCHOOLERS USE A DE
>>[picture of riced out DWM featuring them browsing ero dojins]

DWM sucks balls. Doesn't do unicode without third party patches. Authors don't give a fuck.

i3 ftw

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>>57439903
Good thing his memes and ideas will live forever.

>>57439927
ok

>>57439935
I didn't say that I avoid majority opinions, I said that I use GNU/Linux because it's less ambiguous. Linux is a kernel which is used in multiple different operating systems besides GNU.

>>57439937
GNU/Linux isn't the majority opinion, which is why Wikipedia went with the more common term, Linux.

>>57439975
It is here. I don't give a fuck about the rest of the internet but it seems like you do. I guess 'GNU/'Linux isn't the majority over there on reddit so you think for some reason that it isn't the majority here too. Wrong.
>a communist symbol
>freedom
also kek'd pretty hard at that one

>>57439975
Define operating system.

>>57439975
How retarded do you have to be to actually believe that socialists give a fuck about freedom? And I'm not talking about free (as in money) shit here.

>>57440034
that thing on a floppy drive that you load when the computer boots and prompts for it?

>>57440002
>It is here.
Even if that were true, it isn't the reason why I say GNU/Linux. I say it for Saint IGNUcius.
>I don't give a fuck about the rest of the internet but it seems like you do. I guess 'GNU/'Linux isn't the majority over there on reddit so you think for some reason that it isn't the majority here too. Wrong.
ok
>>a communist symbol
>>freedom
>also kek'd pretty hard at that one
I just think the 4 software freedoms laid out by the Free Software Foundation are important for allowing users to control their software instead of the other way around. I don't know how you extrapolate that into communism, but it's actually not a government system or mandated or anything like that.

>>57440064
>Saint IGNUcius
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/r/ragecomics
>>>/r/anime
>>>/r/cartoons
>>>/r/feelthebern

>>57440064
6/10, took me a while to realize you're a troll.

>>57440064
see >>57440068

>>57440085
>thinking that """""""people""""""" like """""him""""" don't actually exist
i honestly don't know who's the fucking troll at this point
lmao

>>57440034
From Wikipedia:
>An operating system (OS) is system software that manages computer hardware and software resources and provides common services for computer programs. All computer programs, excluding firmware, require an operating system to function.
A kernel is one vital component in an operating system, but it alone doesn't make one. Linux is used in various operating systems.

>>57440039
Who said anything about socialism? What are you talking about at all? Be more specific.

>>57440068
>>57440085
>>57440093
You people are inane, I said Saint IGNUcius ironically because I already said multiple times that GNU/Linux is more specific.

>>57440138
>I said Saint IGNUcius ironically
>using GNU/
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/r/mint
>>>/r/arch
>>>/r/debian
>>>/r/lgbt

>>57440138
R** is a socialist and to support his """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""philosophy"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is to be of the same kind (which isn't allowed here by the way)

>>57440160
>>57440171
you're both really boring

>>57440189
yeah i guess to be not boring for you i would have to start talking about how money is oppressive and shit. i'm not an expert on that so you would have to consult your leftist """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""literature"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" for that, sorry

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>>57440214
""""""""""""""ok""""""""

>>57440171
>>57440214
>>57440226
+(You)'d this post

>>57440138
Linux by itself fits that definition.

Having issues with both Debian and Ubongo Server recognizing my ADSL internet, someone else must have had this, anyone know how to fix it?

Normal Ubungo works okay with ADSL internet

>>57440245
>Ubungo

>>57440257
>Friendly

>>57439731
anyone?

>>57440245
Install Umangu server instead. It's an alternative version with more focus on ADSL.

>>57440405
Thanks anon, I'll try that.

>>57439891
I like Wiki, but their reasoning here is retarded. It reminds me of

cat file.txt | grep text

Most commonly used recommended way to grep text from a file. It works, but is it actually correct?
The question asks how to grep text from a file, so the correct answer should be:

grep text file.txt

Same goes with the operating system question. The most commonly used term != the technically correct term. Both, GNU and Linux are incomplete operating systems; together they form a complete core OS. So referring to both as operating system is correct, but it isn't what you're actually using; it's on of the many combinations: GNU with Linux.

How are fedora's dist-upgrades? Do they do the job or do they usually fuck up?

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Hey guys, I'm trying to set up a virtual machine with QEMU/KVM to run Debian on. The host machine runs Arch.

I've been trying to set up an internet connection on the guest VM but without success. Leaving the default networking configuration on when launching the vm, I simply get 100 % packet loss when trying to ping something. I have a Windows 7 vm too but that one works flawlessly.

I heard I should set up a bridge, but I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I attempted to set up a bridge using this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_bridge#With_iproute2 tutorial, but every time I set my normal network interface (eno1 in my case) have it's master as br0, a bridge I just created, the internet on the host machine stop's working. Any help would be much appreciated!

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Help me, /g/.

I've been using Arch without dual boot for one year already. I play my games on my GPU-Passthrough VM but running two OS at the same time is too much some times.

I'm almost going back to Windows, since there's nothing that stops me from using mainly using open source software there.

Help me not doing something stupid, /g/.

>>57440741
Well, do you really need to play games via GPU pass through? Is wine not enough? Because for anything I play, it certainly is, though most of the stuff I play already works on GNU/Linux by default.
Anyway, freedom has it's costs my friend. Do you really want to give up your freedom for something as stupid as to get to play the newest Battlefield or whatever the moment it comes out at 120 fps?

>>57440724
From experience I've never had an issue going from stable to newer stable.

Only time something went wrong was going from Stable to Beta the dnf system-upgrade plugin crashed and I got stuck in a reboot loop but that was easily fixed.

>>57440772

I have a G27 wheel and the support for GNU/Linux is absolutely shit. The rest of my games should run fine-ish.

Main problem being ARMA 3 and osu, which I never tried on Wine.

>>57440733

It should be running by default. I didn't have to tweak anything for my Windows VM.

>>57440405
Didn't work, anon. the Umangu Server ISO wouldn't install on my drive.

>>57440806
I didn't have to tweak anything either for my Windows VM, that one works. It's my Debian VM that isn't working.

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Does anyone have experience using NVIDIA proprietary drivers on a GTX 960M? Apparently there were problems before, but are they fixed now? I'm asking because I'm purchasing a laptop with this card and plan to dual boot.

>>57441021
>NVIDIA proprietary drivers
did you pick the right one?

>>57441038
Which one is the right one? Proprietary, tested?
How can I find out?

>>57441059
Post your wallpaper. If it's anime I will tell you

>>57441059
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

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>>57441078
I don't have a computer right now, hence the purchase. Have a qt animu, though.

>>57440654
But I use Alpine anon, my coreutils and libc are not GNU.

Beware noob here: I had puppy (slacko) installed on an old PC and when I tried to install java on it it said something about not enough space. Is this related to the fact that puppy is a live OS? I was able to install java on Lubuntu on the same PC, but now I wanna come back to puppy because lubuntu can't recognize my WiFi card

>>57441129
Then you're not using GNU with Linux. Doesn't change the fact that others do.

>>57441142
Yes. You have nowhere to install Java, you need a USB partition or something for persistence.

>>57441151
Running EXPLORER+NTOSKRNL here.

>>57441151
And that doesn't change the fact that every single stallman worshiping retard in this thread feels the autistic need to force people to say G*U/Linux

Reaching bump limit, new thread created...

>>57441183

>>57441129
>>57441193
You are insufferable. Nobody gives a shit about your hatred of GNU, stop trying to start a flamewar. Do you even use Linux? It seems like you come to these threads to deliberately derail.

>>57441215
But it's my first time on one of "these threads", anon.

>>57441096
But how did you post this image and this text?

>>57441215
typical left wing gnu worshipper feeling the need to tell other people what to hate and what not to hate
lmao
also nice doubting my love of linux (- (minus) gnu), i guess i'm not as pure as someone who worships stallman huh

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>>57441326
>le left-wing is teh evil meem
Back to your containment board you >>>/pol/

>>57441359
>sees someone who obviously dislikes leftwingers
>sends him to a left wing board
wtf (what the fuck) my 'mate'?

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>>57441376
>/pol/
>left-wing
u wot m8

>>57439731
Pls halp

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>>57441435
>/pol/
>a board of socialists
>not left-wing
u wot 'm8'

>>57441485
You misspelled nazis.

>>57441485
eevn though they try so hard to be """"""""national socialists"""""""" they still achieve conservative positions

>>57441502
I didn't misspell it. I just dropped the first part of what "nazi" stands for.
>>57441509
That's great but it still doesn't change the fact that they support left wing economic policies. Which makes them left wing or center-left at best.

>>57441552
>le nazism is left-wing meme
>le nazis were socialists meme
Your low IQ is showing.

>>57441552
i suppose it is hard to be a capitalist and an anti-semite

>>57441552

>economy is everything

It isn't.

>left wing economic policies

Corporatism isn't left-wing.

>>57441597
>le
>the NationalSOZIALISTISCHE Deutsche ARBEITERPARTEI isn't socialist
>any socialist has to conform to my internationalist version of socialism
Your low IQ is showing.
>>57441606
not really though, antisemitism doesn't have to be tied to anything else. You could literally believe in any political ideology and still be an anti-semite.
>>57441617
>economy is everything
But I never said it was, that's why I said they could be center-left.

Government intervention into the economy is left-wing.
Government control of the economy is even more left-wing.

>>57441674
>Government intervention into the economy is left-wing.
>Government control of the economy is even more left-wing.
So feudalism is left-wing? You are insane. You're confusing government intervention and control with egalitarianism.

>just because they're called socialists, they must be socialists
Fuck, I guess the Democratic Party must really care for democracy then...

>>57441767
Yeah I would say it was pretty left wing if we were to apply modern standards to it.
Egalitarianism isn't an economic concept though.

>just because they employed socialist economic policies like high scale nationalization of the industry must mean that they aren't socialists at all
Correct. They just named themselves socialists to "troll" people.
And this quote by the man himself was made as a joke as well. "we are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system"

>>57441884
>nationalization is socialism
Wait a second... so Hillary Clinton is less socialist than Donald Trump?

>the guy said something, I'm sure he meant it because nobody ever lies
You're making yourself look stupid.

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>>57441912
Government control of the economy is socialism.
Giving control to a national government instead of an international one would fall under national socialism.

>Wait a second... so Hillary Clinton is less socialist than Donald Trump?
I would say her retarded social policies make her more socialist. Trump doesn't advocate nationalization of the industry though, he just has protectionist tariff policies.

>they guy and his followers said something, I'll just say they're joking/lying because I don't want to face the truth that they considered themselves to be socialists
You're making yourself look stupid.

>>57441962

They also considered themselves the master race.

But the reality of the facts is that the scientific consensus admits they were extreme right-wing.

So no, you're the one embarrassing yourself here.

>Government control of the economy is socialism.
Keep oversimplifying things.

>Trump doesn't advocate nationalization
Who, the one who keeps talking about taking our business back from China? I don't think we're talking about the same Trump then.

>Hillary has retarded social policies
She has common sense social policies. But thanks for showing your true colours.

>>57441962
>Government control of the economy is socialism.
Excuse me, but are you retarded?

Socialism is about social justice and equality.

Government control is something else entirely. The government might control the economy in order to seek socialist values, but not necessarily.

How old are you?

>>57442037
>scientific consensus on unscientific matters like politics has any worth whatsoever
>thinks someone can be extreme right-wing while holding left-wing economic beliefs
>thinks that "taking business back from China" means state expropriation of private industry and not making it harder for businesses to operate overseas by raising tariffs (neither of which I support by the way
>thinks that subsidizing poverty and locking people into one choice of healthcare is a common sense social policy
So no, you're the one embarrassing yourself here.
>>57442066
Your internationalist branch of socialism may be about this. But there are other branches as well. And government control of the economy is a common theme among all socialist governments.

>>57442141
Okay, ask any college professor then. Don't come back to me crying when you don't get the answer you wanted 9 times out of 10.

>>57442154
>any college professor
I don't talk to left-wingers irl, sorry. I just can't control myself when I'm in their presence.

>>57442167
>>>/pol/

>>57442239
But I already said that I'm mentally unstable when it comes to dealing with left-wingers. Why did you send me to a place infested with lefties?

>>57442242
0/10, not falling for your tricks again

>>57442269
you are a bad poster if you think sending right wing people to a left wing board is a fun joke.

wow.

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@57442416
*lights up a spliff*

@57442468
is amazing that all these posts weren't even /g/ related

>>57442527
That's what you get when you allow politically loaded shit like GNU and muh software freedumz in here.

>>57442538

I always thought this free software crap doesn't belong in here. This is a tech board, and software is technology sure, but free software is a political ideology.

>>57442538
free software is fine if it isn't political like the GNUtards would have you believe
>>57442556
>but free software is a political ideology.
You realise that's a stall"man" quote? GNu is a political ideology, free software isn't

>>57442593
You mean open source. Open source is fine. Free software is crap. They focus so much on politics they never get their technology right.