/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Just got a new battery for my x220.
Should I fully charge it once before I set the thresholds or does it matter?

Thinking about getting a T420 or T420s. What are some upgrades to consider doing? I want to put a FHD IPS panel in for sure.

i bought a used thinkpad

trying to clean install W7 on it from my USB pendrive. But the thing cries about drivers. So I should have some ThinkPad specific installation media? It won't install the thing

>>57391739
>FHD IPS

good fucking luck i've been trying to buy the converter board for over a year now

How come nobody wants to talk about my t440p. How come you guys don't want to talk to me? I am a lover of thinkpads just like you guys, but you don't want to be my friend.

>>57391795
install the drivers from lenovos website ya donger
and download the pre req and the rollup for windows 7 to make updates less painful.
and make sure you wipe the drive
>>57391739
have fun finding a 1080p 14" lvds screen that will actually work, and wont be borked.

>>57391863
does it throttle at all under load?
I may get a t470p when they come out

Linux games for the x220?

>>57391850
Didn't the guy on the forums just this last week post that he's taking orders?

>>57391795
https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

no problem

just got gifted a "broken" E535 thinkpad from my job. By broken, they mean just full of fuckin trash. Is this worth keeping, or should I just make it fresh and sell it?

Are there any -new- thinkpads that cost around $260? I meant like newer in generation rather than older but not used as much

>>57391926
i'll give you $5 for it

>>57391604
I'm trying to find a model that would be good for lan gaming and for getting work done.

These games would be ran on lowest graphical settings so I won't really need a model that's beefy. 2gb vram would be fine.

I'm looking at the T series but it has a lot of mixed reviews and I don't want touch screen shit.

>>57391902
not for the t420

>>57391863
>T440p
>can be equipped with an i5, intel GPU and 720p shit panel

>>57391926
meh, its nothing special
sounds like its real deep into shit.
I wouldn't bother with it much, probably easier to sell it for parts.

>>57391945
Yeah, shit E series are available.

What are normal temps for the W520 with quadcore and 2000M? I get 50C CPU idle and 90C when doing intensive tasks. GPU is at 80C

Should I change the thermal paste and clean it, or are these normal?

>>57391739
9-cell battery
eGPU if you want gaymen
Quadcore CPU for the T420.
FHD IPS for the T420s or if T420 wait forever along with me and >>57391850 for a working converter board.

I have to say, compared to my t430, I don't much like this t440p. I'll have to get a new dock if I keep it, plus they changed the power adaptors?! Fucking why? Plus it smells like a nigger's car, black and milds and that fucking black ice air freshener that they all use because they are black

>>57392514
>plus they changed the power adaptors?! Fucking why
Because the old connector is what kept the thinkpads fro becoming slim

>>57392544
t430s old connector
t440 same thickness as my t430 more or less
Any more theories?

>>57392577
Same reason they changed the dock connections, so enterprise customers have to replace all that hardware

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Sup faggots

>>57392859
>ruining a nice machine with memeware OS

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so i dropped like a 2kg tin of unrefined sugar on my x61 now it takes forever to start. there's no visible damage and everything else is running like nothing happened.
what could have possibly been damaged?

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Just pulled the trigger on this. How'd I do?

>>57391865
all right and what the fuck will i do with the drivers? i'll be able to install the drivers in the Windows installation screen?

the OS is W7 and Lenovo doesn't seem to want to give installation media for that anymore. I'm torrenting some other thinkpad recovery media iso, maybe that'll work

>>57392936
it looks like it's in really nice condition
congrats on yr buy, anon

I like my t500. Core2Duo is still hanging in there, ATI graphics barely enough to get by on these days, maxed out the ram, and its on an SSD with a second SSD stuffed in the ultrabay.

But I am feeling the need to move on. I don't even know if I want a modern thinkpad. I have trouble trusting anything newer to last like this one.

Wat do.

Is the i5-2540M preferable to the i5-2520M or is there some hidden issue there? Also do I want a Nvidia NVS 4200M 1GB or is it actually worse then integrated? (Talking about a T420)

>>57393007
get a t520, or a t530 if you're cool with the island keys

>>57393018
nvidia stuff will burn your machine to a crisp, it's best to avoid their stuff in thinkpads

>>57393048
Thank you, I was looking around and most people were just saying it was a 20% increase but I figured there would be something wrong with it.

>>57393018
>Also do I want a Nvidia NVS 4200M 1GB or is it actually worse then integrated?
It's better than the integrated but still not THAT better.

You'll also share the CPU heatsink with the nvidia dGPU so >>57393048 and you can't upgrade to a lower end quad core CPU in the future because of the same reason.

Also things like >>57391257

>>57391650

Did you get the 9cell

>>57393109
ya an oem one.

>>57392936
Good price. Looks good. Nice job.

Make sure to check battery recall eligibility when you get it

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122

>>57391945
X1xxe series is nice

>>57392059
Right, but for the T420s. Is the s that much of a shit compared to the T420?

>>57392046
X131e with the i3-3227U. Runs overwatch at around 35 fps and csgo around 80. Plus its 11.6 inch perfect for lan

>>57393511
worse battery and soldered cpu

>>57392905
the hdd

>>57392936
Has anyone else here bought from them? The quality looks excellent in the photos and I'd be interested in buying one if it is consistent.

Just got my X220 the Think light is pretty neat

>>57393676
i agree
i was pretty surprised at how useful it is

>>57391650
install tlp
sudo tlp calibrate
leave that running overnight, or whatever, babysit it, I'm not your mom. On a fresh 9-cell it can take a *long* time.
Then set the thresholds (75% start 80% end).

>>57392211

Don't quad cores overheat in the T420? I want to upgrade but don't want to lose my stability meme.

>>57393755
Cool thanks.
Why 75%-80% though? is it not better to let it drop down to like 15% before starting again?

>>57393802
To put it in simple terms: 40-80% is where the battery is happy. Get over or under those percentages, or heat the battery up, and you damage the battery, and thus lose maximum charge.

It's better to leave it charged for convenience; letting it drop to 40% and then recharge doesn't really have any measurable positive benefit to the battery's overall lifetime, so it's best to just leave it at 80% (may display as 79%) whenever it's plugged in so you have the maximum away-from-wall charge.

>>57393787
Depends of the quad core and if you have the dGPU or not which shares the heatsink with the processor.

2630qm and 2670qm seems safe, there's a guy showing temps on a t420 and doing the upgrade on youtube.

Next is the 2720qm which i know some anons here are running and looks stable enough, here are some testimonials from another thread >>57380032 >>57380054 >>57380134

Anything past that seems housefire tier and you should've gotten a T520/W520 instead.

>>57393832
>>57393802
Almost forgot to mention: every 2-3 months, do sudo tlp recalibrate again. Don't do it too often (it goes to 100% and then down to 0% to get an accurate reading on how much power there is), but don't forget about it completely. This keeps your battery percentage reader accurate, and prevents over or under charging on day-to-day use.

>>57393837

Thanks I'll check those out. I don't have the dGPU. I've been thinking, what if I bought a dGPU cooler and stuck it in my non dGPU system. would the extra copper draw more heat away? Looking at the design of the dGPU heatsink I think not. But it's worth a thought.

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>>57393832
>>57393864
Cool, thanks for the info Anon!

I have antergos on thinkpad and need a few windows programs I haven't been able to run on Linux. Is there a way or guide on how to install windows after antergos?

I have an x201 now and it's great, but I've been feeling like getting a machine that's a bit different. Is there any thinkpad model with:

1. 12+ hour battery life without external batteries
2. Runs super cool (don't care about performance)

My x201 gets around 10 hours from 0-100, but I keep it between 40-80 (so only 4 hours), so I want something with a bit better absolute performance. That, and it tends to run hotter than is completely comfortable just idling.

>>57393867
I don't think it'll help at all because the dGPU heatsink will be connected to nothing and all the heat is still trapped there since the fan size is the same.

Also knowing the thinkpad modding community with all the wikis and whatnot if that were a viable alternative it'd be somewhat known by now.

>>57393885
No problem, anon! Good luck on your Thinkpad adventure.

Apparently Ivy Bridge CPUs can be used in a T420 now thanks to Coreboot

https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/t420

>>57393951
>https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/t420

Beat me to it. How do the thermals compare on Ivy Bridge to Sandy Bridge? With the size shrink I'd assume it would run cooler? I was literally 2 minutes from pulling the trigger on a 2nd gen quad core.

>>57393980
According to Intel's website, both i7's have the same TDPs (45w), and so do both of the i5's (35w). So, most likely, exactly the same under load, but during idle and mildly demanding tasks, the Ivy Bridge processors are probably cooler.

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>>57393980
>>57394003
Coreboot apparently doesn't have thermal management by default, and the only way to do it is linux software-side, so take that as you will.

>>57393951
That looks it'd be unstable, I'd still wait for some more development before trying the hardware flashing.

As in "works fine except for X, Y and Z", "random unsolved issues because there hasn't been enough testing" or "works fine until you do X" unstable tier.

Just an opinion though, i hope I'm wrong because looks tempting to do in the future.

>>57393644
i'll vouch for that seller. i bought the same specs but with a 64gb msata for $150 from him and it was in great shape. right now i've put in 16gb and a spare 750ti egpu on the side

my x220 seems to be running very hot with the fan always on when I am running Windows 7 only. If I'm using linux I don't have that problem at all. Any ideas?

t440
8GB
SSD
$200

What do, /tpg/?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-14-Ultrabook-180-SSD-Intel-Core-i5-4300-1-9GHz-8GB-/232133677937?hash=item360c3ed371:g:DFIAAOSwHMJYHK~u

>>57394437
Looks in really good condition. Still, the only downside that you might notice is the lack of left/right click buttons that are similar to earlier models such as T420/T430

>>57394437
pretty good price I think
I'd probably replace the bottom case, and then replace the trackpad with one from the t450

>>57391604
Windows server 2012 r2 + vmware workstation, or esxi.
It will be running on my w520 which I use for all of my servers except for two.
Also is there a way to pass through the gpu to an os?
It would be really cool if I could run mac os in a VM at not 3fps

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>>57393787
50c idling and around 62-67c here on light load, both with the fan turned off.

TPFanControl really is a godsend to manage the fan speed.

Hi guys, I wonder if there is any > 1080P screen resolution of Thinkpad? The dell XPS excellent screen is very nice, but it is kind of too expensive.

>>57395199
I think no, I searched and see that Thinkpad only has highest resolution is 1920x1080.

>>57392211
I'm receiving a T420 core i7 2629M dual core on Monday... I wanted to ask, how do I know what kind of monitor the machine has? I get that it's a good 99% sure not going to be an IPS, but how do you tell?

>>57395545
>How do you tell if IPS
Just look at the monitor from an angle, dummy.
If you don't see quality when looking from an angle it's not IPS but TN.

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So, can I use this panel (seller says it's from T420s) on my T420?

Which Thinkpad™ Ultrabase™ does a t400 go with?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00I7NV9LG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478300266&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=LP125WH2&dpPl=1&dpID=31JJRyU%2Ba6L&ref=plSrch

Is this what I should get if I want to upgrade my X230 screen to IPS? Is it possible to upgrade to 1080p or does that require a bunch of fucking around?

>>57395545

I'm pretty sure lenovo didn't even make the T420 with IPS screens.

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So the optic drive in my T420,
>inb4 using optic media in 2016
Can no longer burn data to CDs/DVDs.
I've used K3B and Xfburn and both fail with error.
Can still read though, is the drive busted?

Is it possible to easily replace the cpu on a lenovo t420 to a Core i7-2820QM? By easily I mean, does it require any soldering? Because if it does, it's not so easy for me.

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The W520 I bought seems to have ALL internal serial numbers stripped, anyone know why? There is no BIOS password or anything

>>57396850
its a ghooost thiiiinkpaaaad

>>57396661
enjoy your housefire

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>>57397090
Okay, thanks. Enjoy your car-crash.

Trackpad issues

Just bought myself a T430, on Windows 10 the trackpad is intermittent, every now and then it cuts off for a 3-4 seconds. On linux everything is fine. I've downloaded all the drivers and still having trouble. Anyone else had this issue and if so any ideas on how to fix?

>>57393103
Yes anything that fits will work

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t410 (quadro nvs3100m)'s driver is constantly crashing, sometimes recovering, sometimes staying with a black screen + cursor, needing a complete restart. I removed the video adapter from device manager + the driver, then windows update installed it properly. But it just crashed on me again...
Anyone seen this ?
btw win 10

So has anyone tried one of those 51nb motherboards? They're in the prototype phase of a Skylake board for the T60 and I've thought about holding out for one.

>>57397126
He#s right though. W420 plus a quadcore is literally housefire

>>57398064
Literally why. Most T60 are in a shitty state now

>>57392936
Damn the cheepest option for me in europe with 16gb ram was 350euros...

>>57398357
Well, 8GB RAM stiks are expensive

>>57398357
yeah fuck it... i just want a cheap old x230 ....

>>57398064
>Skylake board for T60
YES
YES
YES

What distro linux you guys recommend for a T520?

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>>57396281
Anyone?

>>57391604
Just threw out a mint T410 and a used condition T61 at work. Feels bad man

Got a new mint T430s but already have X230. Is it worth it for the nvidia chip to switch out? Weight is about the same but idk about the battery and whatever on the 430s model

>>57398662
Probably. I can burn with my DVD Multi III.

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>fall for the Thinkpad meme
>CPU dies within 2 years

>>57395621
Please respond.

I got my x220 for $100 on ebay. Came with 9cell battery and I get about four hours battery life, wrong layout keyboard and a regular screen.

Would like something that lasted longer on a battery life, maybe 9 to 12 hours, with a better screen. Don't really want to spend a lot of money.

If I buy a battery $80, a keyboard $50 (may be zero if I sell mine which seems to be a rare one) and a screen ($90) I will have another $200 in it. Should I just buy a x240 and sell this one or should I try to get a hold of the x320 mod kit??

>>57398897
Is this how optic drives fail?
Maybe I should switch it with caddy then.

>>57399132
>>57398662
>>57396281
The one in my T60p also can't burn without errors

Can I use fake batteries?

>>57398234

Mine is flawless.

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To the anon in the last thread with the fucked up X1 Carbon panel, that's just a part of discord's UI...

>>57396661
Yes it's easy and no soldering involved and >>57397090 is right, see >>57393837

I need a laptop mostly for research and writing. Can the t420 ably handle 20 open tabs?

So are the carbons buyable? Or just stick to classic T X W P series?

>>57399730
Yes. max out the memory to 16 GB (2x8gb) and it will with whatever browser you use.

>>57399730
I'm playing maxed warthunder with mine so i guess.

>>57399567
Then you did not use it much
>>57399621
I think he means small patterns visible on the grey areas, not those lines

>>57399761
pics or gtfo

I replaced thermal paste on W520, now I get 45°C idle for the CPU and 80°C max, 75°C max for the Nvidia 2000M
Are these good? There does not seem to be any throttling

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>>57391604
I fucking made it /g/.
My T430 with i7-3630qm 45W (35W without iGPU) CPU and overclocked NVS 5400m 2GB (~45W?) doesn't throttle anymore.
I've spent like 2 fucking hours on modding this piece of shit cooling system, but it works now.

>>57400134
What exactly did you modify?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148614

T420???

>>57400067

The test equipment firm I bought it from didn't use it much :)

>>57400163
As you can see, both heatpipes doesn't touch each other anymore. In fact they're separated with some rubber.
Also part of the heatsink that touches both GPU and CPU isn't precisely bent on the proper angle, so it doesn't fully touch any of these two. It's pretty much a design flaw, since that's like the 3rd T430/T420 I'm modifying for that purpose.
Also tpfancontrol needs to be used in order to unlock the fastest fan state (7).

Some info if anyone is interested:
GPU 100% load, CPU 0% load = 70C on GPU, 60C on CPU
GPU 0% load, CPU 100% load = 45C on GPU, 95C on CPU
GPU 100% load, CPU 100% load = 80C on GPU, 98C on CPU
after 10 minutes throttling on the CPU kicks in, so it lowers the frequency to 3.2GHz on all cores (from 3.4GHz, DOESN'T GO BELOW THAT)
and 0% CPU load, 0% GPU load = 45C on CPU, 38C on GPU.
Throttling on CPU kicks in at 101C, on GPU 92C.
Plus both CPU and GPU combined under full load uses more than 90W of power, so you need to either connect a battery to the laptop and use 90W PSU (which drains the battery only a little bit, due to hybrid power function) or you need to use 135W PSU, which T430 actually supports.

>>57400277
get regular ddr3 instead of ddr3l

>>57400295
Also, just to clarify: CPU was always used with HT and Turbo enabled. GPU was overclocked to 900MHz (from 800MHz) and vRAM OCed from 900MHz to 1140MHz.
All these results are very comparable to what T440p achieves by default.

>>57400303
can you get laptop memory that isn't ddr3l

>>57400285
Is it a T60p with the UXGA screen or just a shitty T60 with XGA? How is the battery?

>>57391604

I need a laptop with at least 32 GB of RAM, 15/14 '' and with at least 8 hours of real use in terms of battery. Also, screen must not be shit.

I currently own a X220, so if screen is similar I'm cool.

Thanks!

>>57400303
What. Why?
Sandy Bridge based dankpads supports DDR3L memory

>>57400372
What's "real use"?

>>57400366
Yes.

>>57400390
i was mistaken and thought that ddr3 was better than ddr3l. Apparently ddr3l is a bit better.

>>57400408

I would run Linux. Windows would be an always-on machine. The laptop will be used for coding and running several virtual routers in GNS3 + around 30 chrome tabs.

>>57400437
>>57400408
Always-on VM, sorry.

>>57400416
>a bit better
You mean much better.
DDR3L is better in terms on power consumption and generating heat due to lower voltage. And it costs same as DDR3

>>57400295
Kek, actually from 3.3GHz to 3.2GHz, and it seems you just need to raise the back of laptop a little bit or use it in colder environment, and it doesn't throttle.
I wanted to sell this laptop due to limited capabilities cauesd by throttling, but now I'm gonna keep it and invest some money in 1080p screen mod. Fuck yeah

What's a good new thinkpad for about $250? If any

>>57400437
So a lot of CPU-intense shit? I doubt that any laptop will have a good enough battery for 8 hours of that

>>57400596
Probably ome E series, but they are trash

Is it possible to recell a T520 or a T60 battery?

>>57400724
yes, T60 is much easier because the circut board is much more simpler than T520 one.

>>57400752
Are there any resources of people who did it? I heard that if some battery controllers get all cells removed, they refuse to work again

Anyone tried shorting the security chip thing to reset a supervisor password on a t420?

I don't get it why do some new thinkpads cost like $1000 when an old thinkpad with similar specs costs $200?

>>57393129

Nice, i got five of them all fresh and sealed.

>>57400931
They have warranty. And they ARE faster.

>>57393755
Thanks op

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>>57400068
Not him but here. My T420 with a gtx 950 and not everything maxed, only high preset with maxed textures.

Maybe he has a better eGPU and can max it because no way the default T420 gpus max it.

Should I enable or disable VT-d and hyperthreading?

>>57401350
if you don't use vt-d - disable it.
Keep HT enabled.

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>>57399695
Man that's good. Thanks. I'm a retard that can't type... I meant t520 not t420 lol

How do you even clean the old thermal paste off of the sides of the CPU and GPU, there are tiny SMD resistors there which are smaller than a millimeter

>>57401417
If it's a T520 then use a 2860qm instead, it's better and around the same price.

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>>57401462

how do i fix ""A required CD/DVD drive device driver is missing""

trying to do a clean install on a thinkpad i got used and the fucker refuses to install W7. used a couple of different installation media, don't have the original recovery disks.

>>57401473
Thanks. I will look for one.

>>57396850
Most of the internals have likely been replaced. So long as everything works, I wouldn't worry.

>>57401633
Stop using Winshit, and you won't have these problems.

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thoughts on doing this on a thinkpad so you can freely consume whatever in public.

>>57401945
The T420 has that feature by default.

People need to be behind you at a very specific angle or they won't see shit.

>>57401633
That is usually an issue with W7 not having a required driver built-in. You'll have to load whatever driver it wants into your boot image to get it to work. Sometimes taking the usb out and putting it into a different usb port works. For example, windows 7 doesn't have drivers for usb 3.0 so you may be able to boot to the usb stick and load the initial installer menu, but once inside windows 7 loses all visibility of the usb 3.0 ports. Same thing would happen with optical devices that may have come out after your windows 7 image.

>>57401633
>>57402196
Another option is to try to boot from usb 2.0 port if the laptop has one, or disable usb 3.0 in bios if that option is available.

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Who are some famous Thinkpad believers?

>>57402196
>>57402320

yeah i figured out that was the thing, it won't detect the USB ports at all when you're in the W7 installation. Not detecting the 3.0 ports I get but two of the ports I have are supposed to be 2.0 and it doesn't see them either. I tried the trick of swapping USB ports while in there but it refuses to detect any of them.

So what's next? Is it possible to somehow get the drivers in the installation media? I've heard of that. Or is there a simpler way?

I will try disabling 3.0

>>57397384
Disable the touchpad delay after using keyboard in PC settings.

>>57402452
Whoa what? It's Jeb!

The cheapest Thinkpad that could run Overwatch on lowest settings 60+ fps.

>>57402735
Is this some sort of question? Just ceck what GPU you need for that

>>57402735
? not .

>>57401235
wait what how

i want this

>>57402517
Will try, thanks!

t420 fan sounds like a jet engine
cleaned fan of dust, oiled, heat paste, need new ideas

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Anyone had any experiences with the X201T? The one with the touch screen function. Looking to get one, I don't think I have a problem with specs, main concern is the touchscreen, thinking of making it a portable Cintiq tablet with some on the go coding.

>>57402841
TPFanControl, see >>57394785

http://tpfancontrol.com/
Get the 0.63 version, tpfc_v063.zip

The chinky usb 3.0 expressard got stuck on my T420.
Is this normal?

>>57402965
Yes if it's new, it gets loose over time.

same shit happened to me

>tfw got a latitude e6430 instead of a t420

>>57399621
Vertical lines, not horizontal, Anon. Discord was just the perfect shade of grey for me to notice it.

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>>57402985
eww

>>57400805

haven't had to, but heard it's best to do it with a buddy working the power button while you short the contacts from the underside. x220 is supposed to be easier, since the ideal contacts are on top, to the point where youtube commenters of all people report success

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Finally going to get around to buying an X220 lads. What are some things I should know or do? Best OS? Essential hardware upgrades/mods? Any third party BIOS I should use?

>>57403039
>What are some things I should know or do?
Check that all the ports work and that doesn't have a supervisor password.
>Best OS?
Gentoo of course.
>Essential hardware upgrades/mods?
IPS screen, msata ssd + hdd/ssd, eGPU if you want gaymen.

>>57403113
Not that guy but

>IPS screen

Do you know where's a good place to buy one legit? All the listings I see on ebay are "compatible" bullshit meaning they will send a crappy knock-off.

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What's the best distro/OS for pic related?

I'm unironically considering BSD

>>57403369
Win7 if you want windows

>>57402938
I never had this issue until I reinstalled windows 7 after all these years
What could it be?

>>57403453
Check temps with AIDA64 or something

>>57403391
>any Windows past XP on a stock T60
That won't go well.

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Based on the size of the UI elements relative to the screen size what resolution panel would you assume this T520 has? It's definitely not 1080p, but I can't tell if it's 1366*768 or 1600*900.

>>57403940
1366*768, look at the taskbar, there's almost no free space left with just a few icons on there.

>>57403940
768p

>>57403940
>T520
thats a L520,
also thats 1366*768

>>57403940
that doesn't look like a T

>>57402196
>>57402512
FYI, intel has a tool to bundle the USB3 drivers on a Win7 ISO, look at their site.

>>57403988
>>57403979
SHIEEEEEET

The ebay listing said t520. Looks like someone's trying to pull a fast one.

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>>57403940

>>57403989
Not all thinkpads use Intel USB3. The easy solution would be just to use the goddamn USB2 port for the install

>>57403989
i disabled 3.0 in bios and it started detecting two of my USB ports

>>57403634
My T60 ran Win 7 just fine but I also had 2GB

>>57403634
My T60 ran Windows 7 just fine off a shitty 160 GB 7200 RPM hard drive from 2009 to 2014. 2-3 gigs of RAM is all you need to make the experience acceptable.

>>57401945
porn in starbucks...
nice...

>>57399753
Pls ;-;

>>57398234
>>57398064
Lots of new T60 cases and plastics available. You could assemble an all-new machine easily.

>>57401235
How is it? I was thinking of doing something like this to a T460 or T450 if its possible. Is it possible? How is the noise when idle or using GPU work? How is heat? Anything should know when doing this ahead if of time?

The plastic at the bottom of my x220 screen is a bit loose. I can push a little the part above the WiFi/Bluetooth light. Is it normal?

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>>57405668
T60 is comfiest ThinkPad

>>57405683
>How is it?
Well it has served me pretty well, works flawlessly for my requirements and with the docking station it replaced my desktop entirely.

>I was thinking of doing something like this to a T460 or T450 if its possible. Is it possible?
If i remember correctly, for an eGPU setup you need to have one of these ports available: mini pci-e, ngff, expresscard or thunderbolt.

I'm using an ExpressCard adapter because it was dirt cheap and it's pretty convenient since you only have to plug/unplug it when docking or undocking.

>How is the noise when idle or using GPU work?
The GPU turns its fan off by itself and i turn the T420 fan off until it reaches 60c with TPfancontrol so it's silent, hell the HDD is louder than the entire setup.
With load it's the same as a desktop GPU basically but i use headphones so no big deal.

>How is heat?
No perceivable changes at all and i'm running a quad core processor instead of the stock T420 dual cores as you can see in that screenshot.

>Anything should know when doing this ahead if of time?
From my experience it works flawlessly on W7 but never managed to make it work on Linux, it's pretty straightforward too. You just plug the cables, turn on the computer, install drivers, reboot, done.

I wish there was a laptop like the X220 that had a large touch pad.

Who here has done the SDA-SCL-GND pin short for bypassing supervisor passwords? Thinking of risking it for a few Thinkpads I just bought.

>>57401961
yup. Using my T400 yesterday when someone walks up to me and says "why are you using a privacy screen?"
then I realized how shitty Lenovo displays are.

>>57392084
>>57391926

Aspie thinkfags love to rip on the E series, I actually have one.

AMD A10 2.5ghz quad, 8650G Radeon APU and 16gb of memeRAM. 1tb 7200rpm. Win7 Enterprise. It will play just about any of the old Source games well over 50fps at max res with all the eyecandy jacked up. It's about on par with a mid-range i5 or a top-shelf i3.

Battery life isn't bad. The "i" in Thinkpad is a red light on the palm rest AND the lid, it's actually kind of cool. With an SSD it would probably be a little faster.

If you play older games like me it will absolutely rape face. I wouldn't play anything past Borderlands 2 on it and expect a miracle.

It only has two real cons. The build quality is, well, don't drop it. I found out the hard way. It's a plastic piece of crap. The second is if you upgrade to the A10, I know it's advertised with a turbo mode of like 3.5ghz or something but you will rarely see it because it hits the 35W TDP ceiling on a simple YouTube 1080 HD video. Most of your games it will throttle down to 2ghz. Even at 2ghz you will still have decent frame rates in Counterstrike: Source.

In all reality no one buys a Thinkpad to play games, but this one will do it and it will do it better than most Intel integrated graphics offerings even into the current i7 line.

If you get an E545 like I have, upgrade the RAM to 16gb. I don't care if /g/ says its a meme, it's pretty awesome to be able to run your entire OS, Photoshop, Lightroom and a video game and 1080P HD video all at once off only the memory and not bog the system down. Memory is dirt fucking cheap right now don't be a poorfag, get the 16g. I think I paid like 150 retail for mine, bought it on the road.

How many adapters are there for ThinkPads? Is there antenna in for TV?

>>57402452
saw a Thinkpad on Myth Busters a while back

>>57403634

I'm shitposting from my Win 7 Enterprise T60. Here's how you make it work worth a shit with the ATi graphics.

You will almost need a Core 2 Duo T-series. They will run hot it's a Merom core. There is a guide on the forums about how to cool one off using a W500 heatsink and fan, some clever bending, a mild undervolt and Arctic Silver 5. You'll take a small hit on battery life but you'll gain a shit ton of horsepower. Almost double your L2 cache and a jump from 32-bit to 64-bit.

Max memory is 3gb. Get it if you pay anything more than 10 dollars you're a dumb ass.

The ATi x1300 has no Win 7 driver I think I forced a Vista driver or something and made it work. I can't be assed to remember how I did that but I have all the files and shit on my T60 still so if you really want to make an X1300 work on 7 let me know I can dropbox them.

Get an SSD. Really kicked this thing into high gear. Even a cheap 70 dollar 128gb sped this thing up nice.

Thinking about buying one of the newer Thinkpads (I'm not too keen on buying second-hand hardware). Which ones will be able to run multiple VMs (at least three) at once without any significant slowdown while performing fairly intensive tasks like password cracking?

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>i7 X220 can't sustain 3400 MHz without reaching 90 C+ and throttling
What the fuck is the point of turboboost if this piece of shit oveheats and throttles? The fan whines at 4500+ RPM without being able to dissipate the heat. On the far left of the internals, there's a literal empty space 2' wide (I know, took it apart to replace thermal paste) with only two wifi wires going through; this could easily have been used to increase the fan and/or heatpipe size. The goddamn dual heatpipe in this is pathetic, and the fan ever worst since it simply cannot disapate the heat.
>thinkpads are well-designed and have good engineering
What a fucking joke. Is there some mod to add a better fan and fix this bullshit?

>>57407940
turbo boost is ideally for just loading applications quicker, not running stress tests on your computer
And I wouldn't really call it throttling unless it goes below it's stock non turbo clock speed.

>>57407966
>stress tests
Decoding 1080p HEVC is enough to shoot the frequency up, and 20 minutes into it the temps are throttling and frequency clocks down to 800 MHz. This isn't a problem with my thermal paste application nor the stock thermal paste, since testing with both the temps went down nearly immediately to ~60 C when pausing playback. So the issue clearly is the that the tiny pathetic fan, whining at 4500+ RPM, cannot dissipate the heat. It's poor design (like I said, there's empty space in the chassis), and makes the CPU useless in sustained usage. The CPU is capable of more, but the thermal design cannot dissipate the heat of a 35W 3400MHz CPU. I'm more than disappointed, to say the least of the crap machine.

>>57407940
Just disable it. It's not even worth it.

>>57407645

They're good enough for goddamn astronauts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmqPfLWe8G0

Why wasn't there an x210?

>>57408042
Your fan might be fucked up
My friend had an x220t and it never had any throttling issues, and I had a normal x220 (same heatsink minus a little condom at the end) and it also never throttled
>>57408077
this is also a solution.
On my macbook I've found that turning off turbo boost drops my temps 20-25c under load, and I go from using 45 watts to 15-20 (according to intel power gadget)

im thinking of buying a r61i? should I go for it or should I get the x201?

>>57407377
Thanks you anon! <3

Is the OP listing outdated or does it assume things like OS and AC adaptor included? Seems like there's a lot thinkpads on ebay that are way under the price range, even as buy-it-now.

>>57408174
You're welcome.

>>57408198
Bit of both probably. It was last updated in July.

>>57408161
>Your fan might be fucked up
Nope, because I happen to have two fans with identical FRUs, as I replaced an i3 motherboard with an i7 motherboard that came with a fan+heatpipe, and and interchanged both to test temps. Unlikely they're both "fucked up" when they both whine something horrid at high RPM.

>>57407940
never seen my i7 3.5Ghz housefire edition x220 thermal throtle itself, something's wrong with your system senpai.

I have an R61 with a Core 2 T7700 in it, thinking about getting an x220 though. Worth it to switch you think? Could use some better battery life.

>>57393837
I have a w520 with a 2760qm, I ought to try it out in my t420
If only the 2860qm wasn't soldered into my dead macbook
Side note what do I do with a dead macbook pro motherboard that apple wont fix?
I'll be using the case for whenever I get un lazy and move my current 2012 into there.
I guess just sell the dead machine with the dented case? That will probably give me the most money.

>>57392202
I've got a w520 where the CPU is in the 90s under full load, and the 1000m is at like 100c and throttling a bit.

>>57408198
Really loving the pricing on the no OS ones as well. Most normies wont buy em since they don't have winblows...

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>x60t cpu idles at 60c
>completely disassemble and replace 10 year old thermal paste
>continues idling at 60c

>>57408601
at least you wont have to pay for heat this winter.

>>57408601
Same with my x230

Idles 60

Cleaned with new paste idles 60

Working T420 FHD IPS mod when, this shit screen is the only thing keeping it from being perfect.

REEEEEEEEEE

any recommendation on sleeves for a t420 with a 9c? battery makes ordinary 14' sleeves kinda dented.
and yes I know, you dont actually need a sleeve. But i am compulsive (hence the impossibility of it being dented), so I NEED it.

>>57409487
when rmsmajestic and his chinese boyfriend finally open orders

IT'S BEEN OVER A FUCKING YEAR

t61 16:10 (non nvidia) makes a loud "POP" sound usually shortly after being turned on

I think it MAY be from the speakers but honestly it doesn't sound like it's coming from them and sounds more like it's coming from somewhere closer to the center of the laptop.

Anyone know what this is from?

How fast can I expect to cpu to cool down? I ran some scans and it got heated up quite fast to about 83 degrees. It's been 10 minutes and its averaging 78 now. should I check it out or is this normal? T420

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is there any laptop more beautiful than the x301?

>>57410961
Great but no IPS.

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>>57400295
Small update
After fucking around the CPU heatsink the temperature went down to 85C under full load for 20 minutes. No more throttling, bitches.
T430 confirmed for the only master race

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guys what model is the most worth for me?

want a thinkpad for carrying around in my backpack and also some casual gaming
SSD, and no HDD preferably

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>>57410961
I'd rather have an RZ4

>>57411252
>thinkpad for carrying around in my backpack
well, good news: they're laptops, so if they fit in your backpack, you can carry them around
>SSD, and no HDD preferably
this can be chosen after buying by carefully removing the HDD and inserting an SSD
>casual gaming
choose one with intel hd 4000 or better

>>57411323
thanks for the answer. do you know of any models with
>intel hd 4000 or better

>>57411350
the xx30 and above, so t430, t530, x230, I see x240 has intel hd4400, don't know if it's much better than the 4000

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>>57411369
thanks m8

>>57411369
X240 will perform worse than an X230 due to only having one RAM slot. Dual channel makes its biggest impact in iGPU performance.

>>57411400
wow, thanks for the info, never would have considered that.

>>57411265
no trackpoint, terrible keyboard. cheap plastic.

>disgust

>>57411588
>gook keyboard
>no US keyboard available

anons what are your normal idle cpu temperatures at 2,5ghz on t420. what would be considered good/bad/ugly

>>57412154
depends on the entire config.

>>57411199
muhhdick

>>57412484
standard config. 2520M, 4gb, hd3000, ssd.

55C low load at 800MHz
70-75C at 2.5GHz

im about to upgrade to 16gb ram, i presume it's going to influence heat but not sure how much

>>57407626
$150 is a pretty damn great price for all that stuff.

I should of clarified that E series were built shitty. I am still a bit skeptical about performance, I'm not familiar with AMD CPU performances off the top of my head and generally most E series have i3 or Celerons.

The real issue to me is the build quality compared to other thinkpads. The keyboard is atrocious, all the wasted space for looks, & just a bottom plastic frame connecting to metal hinges! Unlike the R series, it still had a subframe from the T Series but for the bottom they used ABS plastic.

>>57403634
T60p was bulletproof on Windows 7 & LoL for years.

>>57402452
retweeted

>>57400931
The reason is that business & corporations send them off to recycling centers. These machines are written off, to the recycling places, either they sell it for a high price, or they sell it for whatever to get rid of it, they get this shit all the time. Because there is plenty of them, you can find them super cheap. However when it comes to consumer devices, there is a more probable chance it is being sold by the original owner or secondhand. Unless the seller needs the money, there is a high chance they will want to sell it for a lot more.
Specwise might be the same, but most consumers will like the looks of the consumer machine.
Thats why generally most Dell XPS laptop & desktops will look like it depreciate less than a compareable Dell Precision.

>>57412796
thats normal

>>57412915

It does have a crap build.

The AMD A10 is pretty decent for 99% of what most people will use it for and I like mine. It plows through Lightroom and Photoshop without nary a hiccup. And it stays relatively cool for a laptop at full tilt it will touch 65*C. The rest of the time you can't even feel it.

I like mine enough to where I'm buying a dead one and swapping all my good stuff into it. My co-driver smashed it because he wasn't paying attention.

>>57408336
Other than the smaller screen, it would be a decent upgrade.

>>57408173
X201
R61i will probably have a celeron in it.

>>57402985
Nice
They aren't bad machines.
Only drawback is no mSATA
Some worn out palmrests get nasty though.

>>57413085

I forgot to mention it has USB 3.0, HDMI out, and that weird USB made for external drives, and it has two of those ports.

>>57412796
That's fine. Could be much better (>>57400134), but that requires much more work.
If it doesn't throttle then it's completely fine. Especially when it's the sandy bridge CPU.

>>57413104
eSATA?
or the USB with a printer/power port?

That is strange.
People who come into my work want a laptop with HDMI out. It's funny how they'll pass up a business laptop or desktop with DisplayPort.

I've got an X131e w/ an i3 that is missing a screen. Just want to get another dead X130 or X140e and swap em. But most dead ones cost a bit more than I want to chew. Last case is swapping an X120e screen after dremelling the hinges.

Tried to flash on my X60 and rebooted after the first flash, but now it does not show anything. Is it bricked or just the screen's not working?

Is this worth buying:

T420
Intel i5 2,5Ghz
4Gb 320Gb 14"
1366x768 CAM

thank you

>>57413358
if its 10$ sure

>>57413358
If you need a basic laptop, yes that should be suitable for your needs.

Dankpad still the greatest

>>57413358
>1366x768
Don't. You'll get cancer and die

can you run overwatch on hd 3000 (x220) ? i dont look for performance , just want to know if it can literally run exe of game

>>57413406
>>57413434
>>57413441
ty

>>57413503
Yes. I can run it on my X200s.

>>57413503
refuses by error message at startup. i think 4000 is the bareass minimum. i do 750ti egpu and run it high gfx 30 fps lock on the screen of my t420

>>57391604

I have a W541. Shit's so cash.

>>57413641
That's weird, what error message you get?

>>57413672
said "no compatible hardware was found". maybe because whatever intel drivers i installed are old and/or using win7

>>57413358
depends on the price and how willing you would be to buy a new screen

>>57402965
use pliers and pull from middle separating line

>>57392514
>smells like a nigger's car, black and milds and that fucking black ice air freshener that they all use because they are black

They do that because weaves stink. Check out tjsotomayor on Youtube for some fucking hilarious info.

how do i make my x201 screen not look like washed-out shit
colour calibration isnt going to help is it

pls help i dont have money for replacement screen (and I dont use it enough to be worth it)

>>57392961
Look up slipstreaming tools. Also use an offline downloader to download updates on another PC while doing your installation.

Recovery media works pretty often too.

You don't need more drivers for the initial install than are required to see the hard disk. Accessory drivers including networking can be added later after downloading them on something else.

My favorite trick to download drivers is using a live Linux USB which supports the hardware (Ubuntu variants work well). Download the drivers using Linux, then boot to Windows to install them.

Keep a few live USB OS handy (FalconFour has a nice WinPE environment and other OS including Linux and DOS tools and hard disk diagnostics) and your life will be easy.

>>57395621
Come on, I should just blindly buy it and hope for the best?

>>57398636
Any you like. If not sure try in virtual machines first or boot live off the same USB you'd use to install anyway.

>>57399253
I suggest getting an external enclosure and a good desktop (not slim) DVD burner for it. I save older DVD burners like Plextors because new ones have shit quality control now that burning isn't important.

>>57401633
You can slave the drive into another machine, install W7, download the drivers for your Thinkpad but don't install them, then install your hard drive into your Thinkpad, boot and finish the installation.

I suggest also downloading all your W7 updates using an offline updater so they'll be on your hard drive. Install the offline updates after the drive is back in your Thinkpad.

I swear every board has a fucking meme that all the memefags perpetuate, even when it's not that good.

/o/ has the miata
/biz/ has bitcoin

and /g/'s flagship meme device will always and forever be the thinkpad.

>>57414355
Check Thinkpad forums for detailed screen info and a lot more. If Anons knew Thinkpad forums existed they'd only stop here to shitpost.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/

>>57414572
>even when it's not that good.
it has been the best in term of price:performance for most use cases when you purchase a proper model for a proper price

>>57414628
> they'd only stop here to shitpost
They aren't?

>had annoying sound stuttering problems with a W520
>solution was to disable hyperthreading

Is Intel PWM Control safe to use?

>>57415105
for what purpose?

>>57415147
Default is 220Hz and gives me a headache

>>57415160
What laptop?
Are you sure it's the screen's fault, and not just you being retarded?

>>57415179
W520, full HD screen
Yes, i'm sure

how much drop in performance from x230 to t440?

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>>57392936
Lol what a coincidence

>>57415195
>tfw I see the difference between 250Hz and 500Hz, but not sure if it's better
t430 here

>>57413158

It doesn't have eSATA it has that SS or whatever it's called. It takes standard USB stuff and a special one too.

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>>57392859
>that OS

nigga pls

>>57392859
Good choice, familia!

T410 for $215. Core i5 version.
should i get? guide says it's way too expensive but i don't have many options where i live.
also found a couple of X2** but it's too small for my needs (coding semi-comfortably)

Lads, is there any BIOS editing or Adobe other type of fuckery required to get the T450 trackpad to properly function in a T440, or is it just plug and play?

Nice wallpapers for my new x220?

>>57416034
Apparently the T450 uses a shitty ALPS touchpad, you sure you want that?

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>>57392859

8/10 b8

Got some dank stuff for t420

Ordered the 900p screen
Samsung 850 Msata SSD
Dual 500GB drives and a optical drive HDD bay
Also bought an Intel Core i7 2720QM

Should be a bit of a beast of a machine by the time everything is installed.

>>57416250
Well it has buttons unlike the T440's unibody pad. I thought it was commonly agreed upon by Thinkpad communities that transplanting the T450 pad into the T440 is an essential mod if you're going to buy a T440.

>>57416629
Apparently there's a normal synaptics version, too
Get that one, it should work like the original one

>>57416590
Which 900p display panel did you order specifically?

>x220 running windows 7

is there any fn combo that can turn the screen off?

>>57416640
93P5685

>>57416643
fn+f3

How does X220 performance compare to T420. I'm willing to sacrifice screen real estate however I don't want to lose too much performance.

How much would you pay for this /g/? Is 150 reasonable?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201705950525

>>57407141
Does the 14 inch model there have nice IPS screens available or is that only the 15 inch one?

>>57416692
nop, that only opens the lenovo power manager...

>>57416834
Only some 15" ones have the flexview screen, and most of those are not 1600x1200

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>tfw all the good display panels for older Thinkpads are out of production and impossible to find
>by the time the newer Thinkpads come down in price, the good panels for them are out of production and impossible to find too

The cycle never ends. I just want to get my hands on one of the genuine high gamut 1080p panels for the T520/W520.

>>57411400
Not only that but the X240 CPU itself is noticeably weaker regardless of RAM since it's a ULV while the X230

>>57416863
That wasn't my question. I asked if the 14 inch has ANY IPS option.

I don't give a fuck how common it is. I give a fuck how possible it is. I'd like a Frankenpad but not the 15 inch, and if there's no IPS screen of decent (read: more than 1024x768) resolution for 14 inch then there's no point

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>>57416860
Get it together, anon.

On my t420 I have the following BIOS version: 83ET67WW (1.37 )

The latest is 83ET79WW (1.49).

Should I upgrade? If yes, how to do it? I have never updated a BIOS before.

>>57416972
What a waste.

Guess I'll hold out for an X62

>>57417047
I updated it today with BIOS Update Utility, it's easy.

>>57417047
If your RAM is faster than 1333 MHZ, it will be downclocked to that

>>57416929
thank you

>>57411252

i have the x230, its great

>>57417047
Can you check if you can swap Ctrl and Fn keys in your BIOS?

>>57417326
My W520 can do that

>>57391604
what do you guys think a good price would be for the following

>t450s
>1080p touchscreen IPS
>i5 5300u
>8gb ram
>256gb ssd

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How good are chink replacement keyboards on ebay? Also how hard is installation? I'm a sweaty man with slovenly food habits and after 2.5 years my keyboard's starting to get a bit tired, and I wouldn't mind a backlit unit.

>>57417565
used or new
new maybe 1000CAD
Also how does the 5300u get virtually the same PassMark score as the 4300u?

I have a question which oneshould I buy:

X1 (1291-2zg) i5-2520M
or
Twist i5-3317u with ssd

both same price.

New thread:
>>57417929

>>57415562
>schniff

>>57416590
lel that would be the same machine i have right now

>>57416827
200