/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>summoning stallman

When all 6 boot up trisquel at once the fat bastard rises from the center to grant a wish

-repostin my question-

I have a question which oneshould I buy:

X1 (1291-2zg) i5-2520M
or
Twist i5-3317u with ssd

both same price.

Haha, time for dumb questions.
Has anyone ever tried opening their thinkpad battery and manually replacing the cells? Is it so impractical it's not worth the hassle or is there potential benefits?

>>57417959
Those better be libreboot fucker

>>57418001
It's difficult and dangerous. If you have to ask whether it's possible, it's out of your league.

>>57417929
Epp US link doesn't work

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Do the new Thinkpad keyboard feel much worse than the classic **20 ones?

>>57418020
>>57417959

I tried to flash libreboot but all I got is that my X60 has a dead black screen. is it screen incompatibility or its totally bricked?

>>57418151
The **20 ones feel bad compared to the T60 one

Why does the bios firmware on the T420 past 1.37 remove the capability of higher frequency RAM?

>>57418151
For X230 and any T series yes.

For X240 and up, no.

Otherwise, it's the layout changes that bug most people, however the keyboard itself is still the best laptop keyboard out there, owing to great tactile feel and that the keys curve inward unlike any other chiclet. I find it feels way nicer to type on than T60-T420 series.

Still think the keyboards pre-T60 were the best, though

>>57418192
Because fuck you that's why
t. Lenovo

>>57418151
The new keys feel better but the layout sucks.

Anyone with t460p here?
I want to buy it for work (c/python development) there's any issues with using Linux on it? I know that everything should be OK but want to check before pulling the trigger

Where can I buy a genuine Alienware M14x R2 1600*900 panel to put in a T430 tbqh fáms?

All the shit in ebay is "compatible" knockoff garbage.

>>57416755
pls respond

>>57418250
They have the same general specs, in my experience it's a lot harder to find a cheap X220 though.

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Is it really a ThinkPad if it was made after 2007?

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Do you guys like my thinkpad

>>57418192
because lenovo a jew

I'm running modded 1.46 mostly because of the thermal management options but yeah also unlocks 1600mhz ram.

>>57417929
Is the 6cell or slice battery heavier for the x220? I was wondering which one I should go.

>>57418224
I've got one, but I don't use linux on it. I've heard it works fine for linux, only the new touch fingerprint scanner has no drivers on linux yet.

Make sure you get the 72whr battery, 48whr is same size, 23whr is a tiny shit that won't last for that long.

>>57418234
Call up alienware and ask for one

>>57418412
Custom made or can I get these custom bios from somewhere?

i've looked at some reviews of thinkpad 9cell battery for t420 (the 70++ one, official from lenovo) and many say it'll be good only for a year, afterwards it'll degrade really quickly

it sounds legit considering lenovo is a jew, but anyone here can confirm?

>>57418584
I'm using this one:
sendspace.com/file/0whb9r

From the T420 article on thinkwiki.de, "known issues" subsection.

What tlp battery thresholds should I set for my x230?

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check out mine new think pad! it it mine first it is the 't60' style. i like a lot the keyboard it is more resistance than mine dell

>>57418648
Thanks anon
>>57418627
I wouldn't bother, the price is outrageous to begin with anyway

>>57418684
what battery should i go for then? are there any non-shit 9cells not from lenovo?

>>57417686
this

>>57418753
Not a clue anon, I was considering this but I still need to make my mind up.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AGDA%C2%AE9-Battery-ThinkPad-7800mah-month-warranty/dp/B0168K4KMY/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1478294720&sr=1-2&keywords=t420+battery
>>57418648
Had a quick mess around with the bios.
The amount of customization is crazy, I love it
>>57418766
I don't like the low resolution, but I don't use it for things that require high res.
There are 1600x900 panels but you need the HD Plus cable for it and I have no idea where to get one.

>>57418879
>you need the HD Plus cable for it and I have no idea where to get one
tfw i have like 6 HD+ cables for the T420

>>57418927
Where did you get them?
gimme one ;-;

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>>57417981
someone help :'(

Here are the links:

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-129127U-13-3-Notebook/dp/B00535COG0

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-12-5-Inch-Convertible-Touchscreen-33474HU/dp/B009MPBFNU

>>57418766
I'm fine with it since it's such a small screen.
1600x900 would be ideal, but 1366x768 is good enough for my use on that machine
Plus it's not like most other laptops that size are any better.
The retina macbook pro 13" is any better, it runs at 1280x800 effectively which is the exact same as the x201/x200 (and lower res t400/t410)
>>57418879
1600x900 screens for the x220?
you sure about that?
>>57418999
>sandy vagoo
>shitty keyboard
>shitty battery life
vs
>ivy vagoo
>probably shit build quality
>shitty keyboard
I'd say just get an x220

>>57418987
I don't even remember.

Sure i could give you one but i'm from a third world shithole so maybe the shipping fees would be more expensive than buying the cable.

are the carbon thinkpads a meme or not? if they are should I get a T440/450 or an X240/250?

>>57419073
I'm from the UK so it would cost me 35 euros to ship from some guy on skype so it can't be any more expensive than that.

Just bought a t420 off eBay. This will be my first non Mac device I have other than my phone and my first computer I have for myself. Having used Macs the rest of my life, they are really easy to use and have good software but I really fell behind in general computer knowledge. Never did any customization with Macs or experimented with different OS's. If they didn't kill the USB ports on the MacBook I would have probably sucjed dick to get one.

>>57419167
Also how do I get windows 7 in it. It's the only other os I've worked with and people like it so much I figure I'll go from 8.1 to 7

>>57419036
>I'd say just get an x220
x220 looks too bulky to carry around imho

>>57419230
put it in a bag

>>57419202
Find your needed windows 7 here http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/
Use rufus to get it to a usb drive and install

>>57419230
according to the measurements of the both of them the X220 is lighter and smaller

>>57419167
Upgrade the battery to a 9 cell, the CPU, the screen if it's 1366x768 and get a HDD caddy to replace the optical drive so you can use 3 storage drives at the same time.

>>57419202
do this >>57419275 and patch it with MS Toolkit, or Daz Loader if it's Ultimate.

>>57419036

In my testing of the x220 and x230, battery life shows no significant improvement. Ivy bridge do not seem to affect battery life in my tests.

>>57419283
but is it thinner?
>>57419263
which one would u choose between 2?

>>57419386
macbook air since you catre about those few mm so much

>>57419437
it's fucking 6 inches not 3mm

>>57418627
Can confirm, lenovo batteries degrade faster than HP or Dell ones for "some" reason

>>57419088
pls ;-;

>>57419465
the fuck are you talking about?
the x1 has a 13" screen and is ~1 inch thick
the x220 has a 12" screen and is a little bit thicker than 1 inch
and that retarded flexy thing is a bit under ~1" and has a 12" screen.
They are all about the same size, the thinkpad x220 isn't that much bigger (and I have no idea where you get 6 inches bigger)

>>57419553
it was meant to be .6=0.6 inches
x1's h 1
twistard's h is 0.8
x220's 1.4

>>57419088
get a t if you plan to use it a lot. if you want portability, the x is a little better but you may want an external display (i guess this goes for both the t and x).

>>57419088
just depends on what you want to do, anon

>>57418627
my 55++ is 80 percent after 2 years usage, moderate

is there a swivel joint for the x220t to go left and right?

x220 vs x230?

>>57420100
x220

the cpu difference is moderate and the x220 can take off brand or replaced battery cell batteries

>>57420131
Does x220 has usb3.0?
I liked the look of x230 but idk, i was going to buy x220 then see x230

>>57420156
you can flash the bios of the x230 to take those batteries anyways, and change the keyboard

>>57420156
only the i7 version

>>57420156
x220 only has usb 3 on the i7 model
can still use a usb 3 expresscard

>>57420199
>>57420202
>>57420210
thanks I'll go for the x230 i guess. Screen is better as far as i found

Is ~$100 for a used x201 a good deal?

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Hey guys just got a T61 slim from a buddy, well besides getting a ssd and such the only problem is some hardened adhesive residue on the back of the screen. I believe there had been work stickers on them, but when the were removed the glue is hard a rock. Should I try goo be gone or asitone? Don't have pics atm, I'm at work.

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https://youtu.be/JYzNouJ2gWc?t=18s

>>57420372
pretty average
>>57420696
rip thinkpad

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>>57420696
noooooooooooooooooooooooo

Is it just me or have thinkpad prices (t420, t430, and x220 specifically) risen slightly in the last 3 months?

>>57420696
>literally bleach again

What did they mean by this?

How does the T450 compare to the T420? I was originally going to get a T420 but I saw a T450 for around $300. Would the extra 120 bucks be worth it?

Bought an x220 off Ebay and after just a few days, the backlight fuse went out (I think). Do I have a case to bring uo with the seller and/or Ebay or is it out of their hands? Also, is there a fix?

>>57421531
holy shit yes
yeah the trackpad is annoying, and the keyboard layout is stupid.
But $300 for a t450 is bretty damn good (assuming that it's in good condition, and isn't a base model)

>>57421531
T450 just as far as pure performance will usually be leaps and bounds ahead of the T420. Although sad part is, a lot of the newer thinkpads will be garbage tier 1366x768 even when the T410/T420 Had 1440x900 and 1600x900.

Overall the T420 will be way cheaper to maintenance as well as find spare parts for so it's up to you. For $300 though, not a bad deal at all by any means.

Completely unrelated. Who here has a T420? Has anyone done a 1080p IPS swap? My 1600x900 panel is decent, but I'd like a better screen overall. My Chromebook has a beautfiul 13.3" 1080p screen and sitting them side by side, the CB is WAY nicer to look at. Thinking of doing a swap. I don't know yet though.

>>57421693
the t420 was the first to have the shitty 1366x768 screen
the t440 and above where the first ones to actually offer a good screen (1080p ips, and I think a 1440p ips)

>>57421693
>T450 just as far as pure performance will usually be leaps and bounds ahead of the T420
What about a T420 with a quad core processor?

>>57421773
quad core meaning an 8 thread i7? Like the i7-2630qm? I have a standard i7-2620m (2c4t) and it is clocked faster. If you're doing a lot of VM work or encoding then get the T420 with quad core. Keep in mind the T420 wasn't really meant to handle the heat load of an 8 thread i7.

If you're not doing work that would truly benefit from more threads, get the T450.

>>57421850
>T420 wasn't really meant to handle the heat load of an 8 thread i7
But looks like it manages fine, there's plenty of proof in the past thread.

Though i agree that only the multicore performance would be massively improved.

>>57421941
by handle the load I meant when the 8 thread CPU is locked at 100%. Encoding, compiling, etc. Thing gets toasty. Not over heating mind you, but easily gets up to 87C+.

Idk I just feel the only thinkpads you should stuff an 8 thread CPU into is the T5xx and W5xx series. Although I like my T420, kind of wishing I had just spent the $500 on a W530. Still might. But at that price range, why not get a Dell Precison? I got to play with one of those firsthand not too long ago. Those things are VERY well made.

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Just got my W520, fucking excellent laptop so far, but should I format the HDD and re-install Wangblows? I hear some of Lenovo's software has malware. I'm getting these ads at the bottom of 4chan, is this shit new or is it my end?

>>57422180
na. Hiroshima Nagasaki needed to start running ads to keep this place running. I don't have these when using adblock plus. As far as Windows, yes re-install. I never trust an install I didn't do myself. Or ever better, install GNU+Linux. Seriously though, new Windows install dual boot with Linux flavor of your choice.

>>57422215
Thanks for your help Anon, yeah I want to put Arch on it. I'll reinstall Windows 7 alongside it. Cheers.

My wireless card on my x201 broke. I bought a new one, but found out afterwards that there's a whitelist for wireless cards in the firmware. I can't seem to flash the bios from a USB, has anyone else had this problem with the x201? How'd you solve it?

x201 for AU $150 or an x220 for $230, which is a better choice?

Thanks.

>>57418648
I just updated bios on my T420 to the last version (1.49), how fucked am I? I can't downgrade now, can I?

This needs to be added to the future OP posts

all original Thinkpad Wallpapers and XP themes/screensavers, etc

http://www.mocom.ru/Wallpapers/ibm.htm

>>57422180
I'd love to pick up a W520 or 30, but do either support an IPS panel, officially or otherwise?

>1400x1050 x60t with ssd and max supported ram
>Still pleasantly usable for actual laptop purposes
>except for 2 hour battery life

How much does an OEM battery degrade in 10 years? people claim an 8 hour battery life with an 8 cell battery. Is it worth replacing, or is something else to blame?

My T420 battery only lasts for 20 minutes. What battery from aliexpress should I choose, there are so many of them.

>>57417929
Is it a good idea to pour water on the keyboard to clean it and have it drain out at the bottom? Is there any way to check if the waterproof-ness is still intact?

>>57422215
>2016
>Adblock plus

>>57417929

Does anyone know why Lenovo doesn't use Iris Pro graphics on their machines.

It would make much more sense to equip the more powerful models with Iris Pro 6100 or whatever than some anemic dedicated graphics card.

Y50-70 gtx860m

I'm thinking of buying this. What is you opinion?

About to resign t my first job and im very sad to part with my T440p. Im currently eyeing a T460 with i5 and SSD (assuming I can install an HDD in addition to the SSD) @ around $800. Worth or im better off with other laptops?

What is the best screen I can put in t520? Google doesn't help.

>>57423780
Thats a really bad idea

>>57427126
I'm going to use it occasionally, literally 1-2 times in a month. I can do even with 20 minutes, but maybe that's a bit too little.

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i have the option to buy a t460 with i5, 512gb ssd and 16gb ram for a great price.
is there any reason i should not do it?
how bad is the screen on this machine? does the keyboard have a better key travel than the keyboards on the x1 carbon and t460s?

Is this a good ssd replacement for a t420?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IAGSD68/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile
Also,what's a cheap caddy?

>>57418151
E series keyboards are utter shite

Can't say for the ThinkPad 13, Yogas, or P series, though I would think they are good, maybe the 13 fair.

**20's quality went to shit after the redesign of the big delete and esc key.

>>57418337
You mean after 2005?
Z60 and later were made by Lenovo.

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Completely fucked my x220's screen, what's the best way to replace?

Would the HDD caddy in my R61 fit into the x220? Looking at grabbing an x220 that's missing an HDD and battery.

>>57427496
>Buy panel
>Replace Panel
>PROFIT

>>57427557
Where should I buy the panel?

>>57427557
Holy fuck they're $80

>>57423780
I got one for $55 from Ali, just don't get something obviously shit like a 9 cell for $20.

It's counterfeit, the serial numbers don't match but delivers fine, here >>57390604

>>57427211
Post more of that kitty.

For the T460, check the reviews. If its really a "great price", you can probably buy it, check it out and sell it for a profit if you're not happy.

>>57427401
Seems good enough. Caddys are simple shit. Just pick one with good reviews and thats compatible.

Can leaving my Thinkpad in the sun damage it? Not a very bright sun and not for a long time mind you, its just sometimes I wake up late and the blinds are not closed so the sun hits the back of my laptop. It just gets warm but not hot like something you forget inside a car.

Just got a refurbed X230 to replace my 2011 Macbook Pro and christ this TFT panel is ass, going to upgrade it as soon as possible. What other upgrades can I do aside from RAM, SSD and panel?

>>57428647
Double SSD, eGPU, x220 keyboard, 9 cell battery.

>>57428647
you fell for the meme, what did u expect

just sell it and buy a better laptop

>>57428647
I seriously don't understand why people complaint about the screens so much, I have literally no complaints about both my T430 and T420.

>>57428784
when you come from a macbook pro you clearly see the difference

im not even a fanboy, im being honest

>>57428796
I've had dozens of macbooks in my hands (I worked in IT support), yet I fail to see what's so special about it.

>>57428720
I bought this because I can't afford anything better senpai

>>57428784
The TFT screen has no viewing angles at all aside from head on. Look at this video

https://youtu.be/VZmB2MB66rY

>>57428889
You mean that, apart from using it as you're supposed to, it doesn't work very well. I understand the reasoning, but I fail to see it as an issue.

>>57428784
It's very impressive that you're able to read & write with no eyes.

Just bust my lenovo ideapad y100s, i know its simple to change lcd screens from upgrading my t450 to a 1080p display, I am just asking which lcd screens would fit in the broken laptop?!?

my x230 comes in today. I'm not sure if I should be happy because I have a Thinkpad, or sad because it's not an x220

>>57428937
Not really, because the colors and constrast suck too, but are you really trying to tell me that you're supposed to tilt the screen back and forward until you find that one single angle that looks like it's supposed to?

>>57420696
That's it, I'm voting Trump.

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Something has been bugging me for a while, I had to open and replace my T520 screen about a year ago. I use it as my main machine so the screen is really in the same position all the time but I noticed ever since disassembled and reassembled it the lid/hinges feels much stiffer than I remembered, to the point I feel if I opened and closed it regularly it'd have broken by now.

Question, are hinges supposed to have variable stiffness/tension and if so how? according to how much you tighten the screws? I don't really mind them being stiff, just want it to last.

I just ordered a t520. What's the first thing I should do?

Lenovo ThinkPad T520 15.6" Intel Core i5, 2.5GHz, 8GB Memory, 160GB SSD

>>57429201
Get the highest res screen.
Reinstall wangblows.
Get a dvdbay-harddrive bay adapter.

Is the LP125WH2-SPT1 the panel I should get for my X230?

>>57429165
lol this is me exactly right now except my laptop is on my bed not a table and i cant grow a beard

Can I downgrade the BIOS on a X220? I'm thinking of buying one, but I don't want my 1866 RAM to be read as 1333.

>>57428647
Okay, I'm confused. The company I bought this X230 from said it was the i5-3120m on the specsheet but according to Dxdiag I have the i5 3320m. But the Lenovo driver updater thingy tells me I have a X230i. Did the guy who had the computer before me upgrade the CPU, or what?

So the x220/x230 seem to be the most popular here. Has anybody used the Yoga series? Think it would work well with Ubuntu?

>>57429686
Yoga sucks don't get it
>t. Yoga owner w/ Ubuntu on it

>>57423562
You can still downgrade using the bootable CD or just booting to DOS from USB stick.

I got my T520 today. Posting this using it. What do I install? I am so close to installing Gentoo on it, right now I'm live on Porteus and it's lightning fast... It has a 1TB HDD spinning inside, 500GB dedicated to Windows 7.

>>57429932
Remove windows and use Debian

>>57429759
What do you not like about it senpai? What would you have rather gotten in the same price range?

>>57429983
I think they aren't seen as real thinkpad because of dumb stuff like uefi-locked, shitty bios..

There is a very cheap x201, i5, 4GB, 320GB HDD, 9cell batt, in my city, should I go for it?

Just got my X230, should I update the BIOS on it or not?

>>57418987
>what is ebay
im pretty sure these cables are the right one for 1600x900 upgrade
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-T420I-T430-T430I-04W1618-0A65207-LCD-HD-Cable-/192012838061?hash=item2cb4db64ad:g:3q0AAOSwnbZYFElM

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Anybody use either these box type Ultradock or the traditional flat base type with a new Thinkpad?

I have a X240 and find it fast enough for me to possibly use it also as a replacement for a C2D iMac desktop that cant upgrade past Mavericks.

I have a 19" 1440x900 monitor, 14" 1024x768 dinosaur monitor, two external hard drives. Maybe a disposable printer if I need one.

>>57430401
Yeah its allright but i dont like how you need both power cable + usb cable, kinda ruins the point of docking desu. Other than that its allright i guess, I prefer the typical mini docking stations tho.

>>57427200
Didn't mean to quote you, sorry
I meant this guy:
>>57423905

>got W520
>Wake on LAN, USB always on, wake on modem call (wtf?), fingerprint reader as power button were all enabled
>lost 30% of the battery while powered off overnight
>battery only has 55% of it's capacity left and almost 500 cycles, probably because of this shit
>disable everything, 0% discharge overnight

Fucking lenovo.

>>57429932
Install a SATA SSD, it supports sata 600

>>57430154
Fucking hell, Its already sold, in 20 minutes.
Fuck this shit.

so the FHD screen resolution is 1600x900 for T400 series correct? should I just get a T500 series if I want 1920x1080?

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>>57430430
I think both run about $300 USD, so I guess I could get the traditional mini dock style.

All I would need is a new main monitor and use the 19" as my second.

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someone tell me where the bullshit in the product is because I don't believe this should be $41

>>57430641
>6d 23h

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>>57430641
2

>>57430641
It has a useless trackpad that will need upgrading to the one from the 50 series.

Also it's an auction you dip.

>>57430574
FHD=Full HD = 1920x1080
1600x900 is HD+
There are no FullHD original screens for the older W4xx models, so just get a T5xx

>>57430711
ok thanks!

>>57430621
Be careful tho because the regular thinkpad mini docking station has some audio unshielded issues that can cause noisy audio jacks. Do research first. Other than that it works nice. I have tested both the normal mini 3 docking and the advanced mini dock 3 and desu not worth the price, but i got them both free from work so idk. I'd try finding a used / cheap one somewhere for less and getting either the traditional dock or the tower / cube dock whichever is cheapest will do the trick regardless. Make sure you double check compability on both types and audio shielding on the dock if u get the mini

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What are you using your Thinkpad for RIGHT NOW /g/?
Note taking at the library for me.

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Just received my used X220 an hour ago. It has Windows 7 preinstalled, but I'm going to install Ubuntu. However, I wanted to be able to install Windows in a VM, so I found the product key and went to the Microsoft site to download a install disk. When I entered the key, the site gave me pic related. I can't find anything on Lenovo's site about this, or even a number to call (they literally have numbers for almost every country except US). Where do I look?

>>57430772
IIRC OEM keys are different from real keys.

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Submitted my T440p for warranty repairs to Lenovo

The keyboard button randomly came off and the plastic thing in USB ports broke off
I was told that I'm not the first one that came with the same exact issues when I was giving it to them

Wish me luck, cuz I don't want to end up paying like 300 Eur for repairs

[spoiler] Yes I asked for the HDD and my RAM upgrade to be taken out and given to me during submitting it for repairs [/spoiler]

>>57430772
Just grab an ISO from elsewhere, your key should work.

>>57430450
Why is it bad idea? Is the waterproof-ness not 100% effective?

>>57431003
Exactly. I've heard of "water proof" thinkpads being ruined that way.

>>57429591
Can't change the CPU on X series

>>57422657
>wifi whitelist
Bios flash

>>57431014
What about removing the keyboard completely, washing it and letting it dry for a day or two? I suppose it'll still hold water somewhere in between.

>>57431003
The drains are there for emergencies, don't rely on them for cleaning.

I'm getting 86 degrees on CPU when I hit "stress CPU" button in CPU-Z and wait for 2 minutes.
37-55 degrees in my usual tasks.
I have T420 with 2520M, is this acceptable or I should replace thermal interface?

>>57431056
That might work, but you're better off using a rag with alcohol.

>>57423780
Replace the cells. Requires soldering.

>>57431060
Sounds normal.

>>57431065
I wanna get the dust and shit between and underneath the keys. I use a blower and its fine for the most part, but was just wondering if water was also usable.

>>57431060
That's normal.

How accurate is the Lenovo store ship time estimates? I bought a P70 Oct 30 and it said it would ship Nov 14, a few days later it updated to say Nov 30, now it says Nov 14 again... what should I believe?

>>57431084
Hell, a new keyboard is only $15-25. Water will probably fuck it up.

>>57431078
>>57431086
Okay, thanks.

>>57430984
I just called support, they offered to sell me an OEM disk for "only" $70... I don't know why on earth I would need to pay to reinstall an OS I already own.

Where would I get the ISO? Just torrent it from someplace, or maybe see if someone in my dorm has access to it? Would I just be able to enter the key like usual during the installation process?

>>57431072
Soldering isn't a problem, but where can I find these cells?

>>57430755
I'm programming a STM32 with a X60 in FreeBSD. Nice setting!

>>57430794
OEM keys are just as real as retail keys.

>>57430772
>>57431203
You can't activate it because your product key (OEM license) is locked to your laptop's hardware signature, which your VM doesn't have.
Doesn't matter how many ISOs you get from shady places, that key is never going to activate on anything but your laptop's bare metal.

You can either pirate Windows or buy a new license if you want a Windows VM.

>>57431203
Either would work, should just be able to enter your key.

>>57431210
eBay. Check out /ohm on /diy or youtube for more info.

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Can any Jebheads id which Thinkpad model this is?

>>57431258
Oh wait, so it won't run in a VM even if it's on the same hardware? I didn't realize that, but I guess it makes this whole problem a moot point. Well in that case I guess I'll need to decide between losing windows and dual-booting. Leaning towards the first since I don't use windows for anything but gaymez or some hypothetical future compatibility issue, and I already have a desktop dual-booting Windows 10.

>>57431258
>>57431265
Ah, my bad, misread; thought he was going to run it on his metal.

installed windows 7 on my new ssd, but theres no utilities for my t420 or anything

i tried dragging files by hand but im retarded so that didn't work

is there free software i could use to migrate all my shit?

>>57431319
What the fuck are you asking?

>>57431319
i installed a fresh windows 7 on my new SSD, however it does not come with the proper drivers for the T420 model, so I can't use function buttons or wifi.

Is there a software I could use that will migrate my files from my HDD to my SSD, including the drivers, preferences and all that shit, or do I have to do it manually?

>>57431319
Clone the drve

>>57421850
>>57421941

I'm running a 2820QM in my T420. It's pretty nice. It was a significant upgrade. Along with an SSD, I can run Visual Studio and Linux VMs without too much lag.

I don't know about pegging all the cores, because that just never happens for me anymore. I stopped encoding videos when I started torrenting.

>>57431357
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht082396

Hi guys,

I'm looking to replace my mac laptop with a X220. How's the trackpad on that thing? Does it even come close to mac's, or is it better? I literally don't know.

>>57431374
holy fuck this would've saved me so much trouble

I'm thinking about getting a Thinkpad, but I'm curious what their competitors are. The Lenovo spyware incident scares me even if it was windows only because it shows how much they care. I know Linus users a xps 13 for example.

>>57431573
the sticky reads: "Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)."

>>57431396
I literally just went from my Macbook to an X230 today. The trackpad sucks compared to the Macbook but there's really no point in using the trackpad on Thinkpads when you have the trackpoint, they're more accurate and comfier to use than even the Macbook trackpads.

And also, where's the best place to buy panels in Yuropoorland?

>>57431027
wew
http://forum.51nb.com/thread-1602437-1-1.html

>>57431681
Neat
Alright, the average /g/ user that asks for buying advice can't replace the CPU

>>57431626
Still a lot of options and getting the best bang for buck is still a lot of digging

>>57431741
I bought it refurbed from a company who claims they only get the machines they refurb from businesses so I have no idea what's going on here. But hey, not that I'm complaining about getting a better CPU than I thought I was going to get.

I use a custom bios on my x220, does increasing my ram clockspeed reduce battery life?

>>57432163
from the ram itself?
no
although since you have faster ram your cpu might have to work a touch faster, so that means turbo boost will kick on easier.
And turbo boost rips the shit out of your battery
oh and if the custom bios doesn't have power management things (like coreboot or libre boot, forget which) then that kills the battery.

>>57431374
>>57431454
nevermind, they dont provide any drivers or anything lmao its all useless generic info

>>57432469
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x220?c=1&beta=false

Go to "Drivers & Software".

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-LG-Philips-LP125WH2-SL-T1-Laptop-Screen-12-5-LED-BACKLIT-HD-Compatible-/380919296034?hash=item58b08f3022:g:HR8AAOSwstxVSeYd

Is this legit? I assume it is since they have a 99% rating but how come it's so much cheaper? Most other panels I've seen go for at least 70 quid.

are there wireless thinkpad keyboards with trackpoints that have the old keyboard layout like on my t420?

>>57431357
Clone the drive and make sure the partition is aligned. Make sure a couple of SSD specific tweaks are enabled like period defrag disabled and so on.

Is there anything I should know before I buy x230?

got a couple of questions for you fags

i had a weird issue where mouse presses where held and pressed randomly, rendering the machine useless. disabling the trackpad via fn didnt solve it, but when i disconnected the trackpad at the board it solved the issue. anyone have any idea why the latter solved it but not the former?

can i safely plug the trackpad back in while the machines still running?

also why are touchpads such fragile pieces of shit? this is the second time ive had issues with a trackpad fucking a machine just because it got a teensy bit of water on it, my last elitebook wouldnt even boot because of it. that said, my x201 is still going strong.

>>57417929
is there a not 1920x1080p screen for a T550 or do I only have the option of a 1920x1080 TN display. Don't really wanna shell out the money for the 3k display. If not X1 carbon gen 3 or X250

Does the T430 come with an option to maximize the amount of memory of the integrated graphics (Intel HD 4000)? Or is the value unlocked by default?

The main reason I'm getting one is because my crappy Satellite C855D is, well, shite.

>>57433964
Forgot to add that that I do not intend to use it for heavy gayming, but I do want to be able to play a game that's not too intensive or dependant on graphics memory while on the go.

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It's here bois

>>57418165
If it won't display on an external monitor either then it's likely bricked.

At least parts are cheap. :(

>>57420633
Goo gone damaged a palmrest on mine, do not use on Thinkpads. Have not tried acetone, but I suggest trying any cleaner on a test spot on the bottom of your machine first.

>>57420633
>>57434303
you do know acetone dissolves plastic, right?

>>57422230
You can run them both at once using a VM. Make your host whatever needs direct access to hardware then run the guest in a VM.

>>57422657
A correctly prepared USB will work. Try different DOS or FREEDOS USB installs until you can boot from one, then add flashing tools.

>>57427496
Follow the service manual. Lenovo manuals are best notebook manuals by far. Check Thinkpad forums for panel options. I

T430 with a 256GB SSD, 8GB DDR3 and an i5 3320m with battery and power lead for £175. Good deal? I'm not really clued up on Thinkpads but I do need a laptop and considering an X220 with 4GB DDR3, HDD and 2nd gen i5 is around £140 I thought this was pretty decent, or am I wrong?

>>57431003
>Is the waterproof-ness not 100% effective?

They are not water PROOF, merely RESISTANT.

>>57431084
I blow dust out using my air compressor. Works fine but make sure you reduce the pressure so you don't blow keys off the keyboard.

>>57431304
I run Daz Loader to activate in a VM.

This is the smart way:
Install Windows and skip activation. Take a clean Snapshot. Then activate with the loader. If you get a loader bundled with adware, you can either continue to run it, or revert to the clean Snapshot to try a different download. Your Snapshot of unactivated Windows will remain virginal! I fucking love Snapshots and Virtualbox in general.

Spend a while getting familiar with warez. VMs are magnificent for trying different OS and apps because you can boot from any Snapshot to experiment. Installing to VMs is fast, easy, and you can do other tasks uninterrupted.

>>57431573
Anyone sane immediately wipes a new PC then clean installs their OS of choice or swaps in an upgrade drive and saves the original in case of warranty return. Buy for the best hardware.

>>57434335
>you do know acetone dissolves plastic, right?

Not all plastics, but many plastics. That's why I suggested a test spot first.

>>57434541
Interesting. I may research that and try it in the future; as it is I've already wiped the drive and installed Ubuntu.

I have another question. My X220 appears to have a fingerprint scanner, or at least I assume that's what the horizontal bar in the lower right area is. But under the "Users" menu in Gnome, it doesn't give me an option to use the scanner, suggesting that it doesn't recognize it. I've heard it may be necessary to enable it in the bios, but while looking through the bios I wasn't quite able to figure out what to do? Anyone have experience with this situation?

what's the best spec step up from a T420? One that is easy to upgrade hardware .

http://tech.vectro.ca/prototype-x220-fhd-mod/

Gonna be eye fucking that page a lot from now, finally a non moon runes build page.

>>57434645
>as it is I've already wiped the drive and installed Ubuntu.

Ubuntu makes a good host. I run Xubuntu without problems. Besides installing Virtualbox you can collect .iso images of any other OS which interest you and install at leisure. You can also test live OS images by booting from them without creating a virtual hard disk.

lads i can get a x250 for 350 do i pull the trigger? I also get to see it first since craigslist

>>57435232
fug and T420 FHD mod is nowhere to be seen

Does anyone make T420-style keyboard for T440+?

Even third-party would be fine.

>>57435232
Eh, I feel like 720p is as big as I would want on a screen that small. I already have to squint a little as it it.

whats the coolest thing i can put in my x200t's expresscard port?

I found a mouse that charges off and lives in it, and dual usb 3.0 cards but thats about it.

>>57436240
yer dick

>>57430755
Lying in bed and watching Top Gear on my T420.

Is a T510 good?

My local Microcenter has a refurbished one for about $240, but I have a bunch $50-60 or so in store credit because of a return I made a while back. Should I pick it up?

Does the T420 come in 16:10?

>>57417929
Hey bros.

Got a t440s and replaced the touchpad to get a cheapish newer i7 thinkpad with 1080p screen.

Problem is, the keyboard that slides up somehow got fucked during the reinstall, and so its in all fine, but the very top row of keys RIGHT of "F8" are sticky as shit due to improper placement.

Now, when I try and slide the keyboard up to gain access to screws, its tensioned and just snaps back down when I get any progress.


Help??

>>57417929
Does this seem like a good deal? *T420*
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-HD-256-GB-SSD-500-GB-HDD-i5-2-5-MHz-8GB-RAM-/192020991594?hash=item2cb557ce6a:g:v5MAAOSwMVdYIEBZ


Its got a 1600x900 screen and an SSD+HDD combo, its in mint condition and has a fingerprint reader if that matters. I've been looking to buy a thinkpad for a while and everyone here recommends the T420.

>>57436646
>http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-HD-256-GB-SSD-500-GB-HDD-i5-2-5-MHz-8GB-RAM-/192020991594?hash=item2cb557ce6a:g:v5MAAOSwMVdYIEBZ


Yup looks to be a solid price. Could consider getting one with no battery for about $60 cheaper so you can get a fresh one, but honestly probably not worth the hassle..

>>57436682
I was gonna buy a couple batteries for it if I purchase it anyway, preferably new 9 cells.

what's the best spec step up from a T420? One that is easy to upgrade hardware ..

>>57436616
Mine is 1600x900


so whatever that means to ya

>>57436704
Oh yeah you're all set then. Look into replacing optical drive with another ultrabay battery for hotswapping - I think t420 can do it.

Anywho, enjoy the laptop. Best on the market

>>57436616
14.0-inch HD (1366 x 768) LED backlight Anti-Glare Display
14.0-inch HD+ (1600 x 900) LED backlight Anti-Glare Display

Straight from lenovos website.
No 16:10 option.

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is a T520 as easy to upgrade than a T420 sinc ei thas 1900x800 display?

are the same setup?

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How good is a T530?
I did a Craigslist search for Thinkpads and found this. Should I go for it or pass?

What's the best way to clean up a old track pad?

>>57436716
I'll look into the ultrabay battery, otherwise I might do another hard drive.

>>57436988
if its 1600x900 and dgpu then thats bretty gud
but if it isn't then it's just not a bad
>>57436742
should be
the t520 is basically just an oversized t420
>>57437015
I rub some hand sanitize on my hand, then rub it around the computer

Could the Battery Refresh thingy in ThinkVantage fix my t60 battery? I can get down to about 50% and it goes straight to hibernate. Battery only has like 60 cycles or something, it's the OEM one.

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>am browsing for a cheap thinkpad to buy
>come across this monstrosity
Why aren't you currently bidding on a rare Lenovo Toshiba Dell Thinkpad?

can I change the cpu on the x220t?

>>57436240
>>57436240
link to mouse>

Thoughts on the P50?

Can someone direct me to a guide in how to reapply thermalpaste to a t420s

>>57438068
youtube it
iirc the board is upside down so you'll need a complete diss assembly

>>57424404
My friend has one, it's shit. Not a thinkpad. If you want a gayman machine wait for thinkpad with Thunderbolt or get p50

X201 for £50?
i7
240gb ssd

Y/N

>>57417929
>T440: $360, $420

Wait, what? I just picked up an i7 4600u model for $160 from a guy on craigslist that I'm typing on right now. Did I hit a jackpot?

I got me a nice T430, i5 3320m 8GB, no Nvidia,
What kind of thinkfan config should I run?
Currently using this:

(0, 0, 60)
(1, 57, 65)
(2, 63, 75)
(3, 72, 80)
(4, 78, 90)
(5, 87, 95)
(7, 92, 32767)

but I think it might be a little high. Thoughts?

running Arch GNU/Linux on an X220T. What should I be doing to get more battery life? I have heard of tlp and powermizer, but have not read much about how to use them, and I'm not sure if they should be used together or not.

>>57438560
tlp works really good. You can set the battery thresholds easily

do thinkpads have a setting in BIOS to run lower resolutions in 1:1 mode?
I have a old dell laptop that does this and it's so nice for older games that have fixed resolutions

Are there any Thinkpads made of aluminum?

>>57433190
you can get wired old layout or wireless new layout AFAIK

>>57438582
just to clarify I want to last longer on battery, not just extend the overall lifetime of the battery itself

I've got a 9cell I believe which I guess means it's probably not an official battery and it only lasts like 2 or 3 hours

any guides for configuring tlp?

>>57438630
I think some of the HP Elitebooks have at least partially metal cases. None of the ThinkPads do that I know of.

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>>57418497
i've heard the slice can get damaged easily btw. I don't think they sell them new anymore either.

I posted in this general awhile ago saying my status lights wheren't working and an anon said it was my inverter. Anyway I ordered an inverter I just want to know if I will need to take the screen out to replace it and if it will require any soldering? Just seems weird to me that leds would die and the screen works fine.

>>57428784
Coming from a Chromebook pixel, this display makes me sad

Where are the best places to get an x220?

>>57417959
that would require all of the 6 trisquel users, and one of them is stallman himself so there is little point

>>57434413
meh, just bought it because it was the last one. I might consider upgrading the screen to a 1600x900 one at somepoint.

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Here's one for grandma. Battery turned out to be pretty good for "holds charge, didn't test".

>>57435418
Well do I go for it?

>>57438401
Y easily.

My display driver keeps crashing,
which version are you using on the t410 ?

I want to try and downgrade

X220 owner here.

Somehow, I can't charge my laptop.
Assuming my charger's fucked, how much should I expect to pay for a new one?

I've been offered a X220 or X230T for around £130 from my company as they clear some stock out?

Better to get the older laptop or the newer tablet version?

>>57417929
Why do people hate the new thinkpads so much?
The only thing i can find wrong with them is they are expensive and the keyboard layout is worse.

>>57440415
the new thinkpads look like a grey plastic macbook

and they lost a lot of functionalities

>>57440436
>muh looks

and all the functionality is almost all exclusively related to the new keyboard format

>>57436240

Solely depends on your needs.
I stuffed an expresscard to RS232 converter because I need access to legacy hardware.

Is it worth buying a 200$ t420 for coding,general use and light gaming(indies,hl2,ecc.)or should I buy a more recent laptop?How long my machine will last?

>>57440415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY

>>57440337
Depends on the specs.

>>57440504
My table is too small, I can't use my desktop and thinkpad at the same time, what do?

>>57440506
Do the same complaints apply to the T450/550 and x250?

>>57440557
Why you replied to me?

>>57438401
Fucking hell, that model costs 140jewuros where I live, and thats without SSD.

>>57423110
both are nice, x201 if you get the bigger res panel if not, x220 with the ips panel. Avoid anything with TN at all costs.

Can someone explain core boot? I get that it means I can change the processor but still really confused by it.

>>57439933
whats the screen resolution on that?

>>57440610
Accident.

>>57423745
don't be a cheap bastard, batteries are easy to come by and you could get one for it without problems. Do not get cheap chinese ones, those are a ixed bag to say the least and you could get a decent battery or one that will explode in a week.

>>57418165
You can still reflash the bios with a hardware flasher, if you fucked it up in software

>Buy Thinkpad X230
>Install Arch with Plasma on it
>Backlightning doesn't work
>Check the X230 page on the Arch Wiki
>Due to an issue with the firmware of several ThinkPads the backlight control keys (fn + F8/F9 on the X230) don't work correctly. Setting the brightness via e.g. the GNOME power control panel or altering the brightness value in sysfs is possible.

Whelp, looks like I fell for a meme

>>57437157
hmmm all the T520's on ebay don't seem to be 1900x800

anyone have good source where to find step up form a T420 but same style with higher resolution than 1600x900

>>57441104
Yes, you fell for the Arch meme.

T420s with 8gig. Could've used more, but lenovo recommends max 8GB. Anybody tried 12/16GB?

>>57427690
Ebay or laptop-screens

>>57441160
All T520 are 16:9 1600x900

What to buy for playing older 3d shit? Can't play fallout nv on intel. Thinking x220 with gpu if I'd find one used.

>>57441195
thanks

>>57441182
I have 12 on mine.

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just upgraded my thinkpad to T800, pic related

>>57441207
>>>57441182 (You)
>I have 12 on mine.

Any similar rams will work, or do u have to be careful for models/series?

What's the general consensus on newer thinkpads? Got the yoga 12 thinkpad because I needed a small laptop with screen I could write on, and so far really enjoy it but battery life is weak and I find the digitizer to be very wonky to get working right. Anything I can do about it?

>>57440736
1440x900.

>>57441241
I have stock 4gb stick and I added a 8gb g.skill 8GB so different ram and zero issues.

You should be fine

>>57418224
I recently got one with the 6820HQ and the 1440p display (definitely get that unless you prefer the 1080p IPS panel). I don't run Linux on it, but everything has been perfect with it so far. Good build, nice screen, powerful and good battery life. Also like the other guy said, get the 72whr battery, it also doubles as a nice little stand which tilts it up for better cooling and typing

>>57441273
Thanks dude

How do I get the fingerprint reader working in Antegross?

>>57441294
Don't fall for this meme. Fingerprint reader is buggy and can be bypassed easily.

>>57441182
>lenovo recommends
fuck lenovo

Running 16gb 1600 mhz here with modded 1.46 bios.

>>57440593
yeah, except the trackpad buttons

>>57441318
Thanks for info. Why modded bios, mind you?

>>57441335
Is it still worth if I can get one under 450 for specs alone?

>>57441380
because >>57418192

It's also more customizable.

>>57440691

It allows the BIOS to do more than what lenovo intended for it to do.

For example the pci whitelist is gone, meaning you can stick a different wi-fi card in it.

It also allows for faster ram to be installed and used, boosting performance.

>>57441104

>Falling for arch
I too have made this mistake.

Now I dual boot w7 for car diagnostics and fedora for general use.

>>57441246

Get rid of it and buy an x220t

>>57441491
So I could buy a T420/520 or x220 use code boot and modify the hardware to increase longevity?

>>57441621
Coreboot on phone

>>57440506
that's an old one, a lot of what he complained about like the trackpad was fixed for the broadwell and skylake thinkpads

>>57417929
Would a used t510 8gb ram be a good alternative to a mac for creative apps like cs6 and affinity designer? Would I be able to use those apps through virtualbox reliably or would I have to dual boot into Windows?

I have exactly this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNA6WUBOTpk on my T420. Am I alone?

>>57442450
Mine has it too.

>>57442401
There's always some penalty running in a VM but you can run Windows as a host and Linux as guest OS. I don't quite get why people dual boot on modern hardware, apps which specifically require direct hardware access excepted.

Run an SSD of course. Spinners are slow junk good only for storage, but you can leave a spinner in a caddy or dock if needed.

>>57442450
My t430s is the same. Do you need new hinges to fix this or is it just loose screws?

>>57442584
What kind of battery life should I expect?

>>57442401
affinity isn't available for windows right?

>>57442850
There's a free beta out now

My T420 battery has lost 10% capacity in 10 cycles, I think its fucked...

Any recommendations on a cheap good battery?

>>57442919
>cheap
>good
Those two don't go together but a nice all-rounder would be something like >>57427971

>>57442919
Anker batteries work well for me, but best way if you really need to run off batteries is have more than one charged battery with you so you. Some Thinkpad docks can charge an extra battery along with running the notebook.

>>57443020
>>57443050
What if I need just 1 hour of work, can I go with cheapest chink battery or it's just dangerous?

Anker is worth almost 100$ with shipping, dont wanna to spend that money to 170$ laptop.

>>57443140
I run the chink battery. Worst case it dies and buy another different battery.

I see inexpensive laptops as an advantage since I have less invested total and hence don't mind buying a decent battery now and then. Cost per year of use is still very little.