/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

when does thanksgiving break start for americans?

Daily reminder to fire up GIMP and create some OC for our /wg/ thread: >>>/wg/6743571
(especially you, the guy who made the arc themed papes)

>tfw slowly falling for the fedora Xfce theme

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What's the most schway distro?

I've been having trouble finding resources about how to make persistent live USB distro images. A regular one is obviously easy, but the very few tutorials about persistence I've seen have been absolute shit and only for Ubuntu.

>>57337148
https://www.in8sworld.net/blog/archives/3969

https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

>>57337004
>uninstall Xfeces
fixed your troubles breh

>>57336826
idk i'm not american
LOL
*eats a thanksgiving turkey*
*violates american culture*

's*
oh btw what's the best distro around here i'd like to be one of the cool ones if that's okay with the cool ones already in place aka the powers that be.

and yeah, i don't like mème shit like ubuntu or anything similar to it so please non of that shit please

>>57336826
probably around the week of the 13th

>>57337365
non americans aren't allowed in this thread.
i'm an honorary american.

>>57337380
>i'm an honorary american.
why are you awake so early?

>>57337195
Damn, that Fedora one looks exactly what I was hoping for. I'll have to try it out tomorrow. Thanks, anon!

>>57337148
>>57337195
Question: if I install from a persistent image all of my tweaks and data should transfer to the install automatically, right?

>>57337069
Gentoo

>>57337413
I don't have a sleep cycle one would consider normal so yeah, that's probably why my friend

I broke Pulseaudio somehow. I reinstalled alsamixer, now it works but no devices show up. How do I purge and reinstall it all

>>57336265 Here ya go:

Ii möcht nur rasch öpis zwüschewörfä. Säb, wo du als Linux bezeichnisch, isch eigentlii GNU/Linux, odr wien ichs sit Neustem nenne, GNU plus Linux. Linux sälber isch keii Betriebssüschtem, sondern einfach ä witerii freii Komponente vomene vollumfänglich funktionstüchtigä GNU Süschtem, wo vo de GNU Kärnbibliotheke, Shell Utensilie und anderä wichtigä Süschtemkomponentä nützlich gmacht wird und as vollständiges OS darstellt, wies definiert wird vuu POSIX.

Vilii Computer-Nutzer nützen jede Tag a modifiziertii Version vum GNU Süschtem, ohni sich dessä überhaupt bewusst z sii. Durch eigenartigii Umständ isch es passiert, dass d Version vuu GNU, wo hützutags wit verbreitet isch, als Linux bezeichnet wird, und vilii Nutzer devo sin sich gar nöd im Klarä, dass es eigentli es GNU Sütschtem isch, entwicklät vum GNU Projekt.

Es git ächt es Linux, und dia Lüt nützen's au, aber es isch ebä nur en Teil vuu ihrem Süschtem. Linux isch dr Kärnel: z Programm im Süschtem, wo d Ressourcä vo dr Maschinä dä Programm, wo am Laufä sin, tut zueteilä. Dr Kärnel isch en essenziellä Teil vumenä Betriebssüschtem, aber für sich alleii zwäcklos; är cha nur funktionierä zemä mit amenä komplettä Betriebssüschtem. Linux wird normalerwiis igsetzt zemä mit em GNU Betriebssüschtem: z ganze Süschtem isch grundsätzlich GNU zemä mit Linux, odr GNU/Linux. Alli vo de sogenanntä Linux Distributionä sind eigentlii Distributionä vu GNU/Linux!

>>57336781
How can I stream music from spotify using audacious music player?

>have to use web players instead of dealing with some ugly as fuck music players
jfc is everyone who develops for desktops just bad at design

>>57337716
Saved into my pasta collection. Thanks!

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>>57337716
Bavarian version when?

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what does my computer mean by this?

>>57338020
you're being hacked, switch to google as your search provider now before the jews get to you

>>57338020
clean that rainbow vomit off your screen

>>57338020

>arc in the main repository

Mhmm.

how to disable titlebars in i3?

I have a question about Linux that is difficult to just google.

Here is a scenario on Windows 7. Say I have two USB ports on my computer. If I plug, say, a webcam into USB port 1 you'll see a message on the taskbar saying that it's locating the drivers and installing it. After that, if I unplug the webcam and plug it back into that same port, it doesn't have to do a whole installation process anymore, it just knows the webcam. However, if I unplug the webcam and put it into USB port 2, it needs to find the drivers and install it again. I feel like Windows is very messy with handling USB peripherals.

What happens if you do all this on a Linux machine? How smart is it at handling a webcam being used on USB port1 on Monday, then putting it on USB port 2 on Tuesday?

>>57338218

new_window 1pixel
new_float 1pixel

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>>57338236
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57338236

It won't matter, it will work.
Check the "lsusb" program in your terminal emulator of choice.

>>57338249
Perfect, love you.

>>57338249
thanks

>>57338249

nice, god bless you

>>57338249
Any more tips for i3? I'm pretty new to it, (managed it finally to compile i3-gaps) but I've no idea what I am doing.

What is the most aesthetic Debian based OS?

I don't want to go into arch for the simple reason that I can't rice for shit. I just want everything preinstalled and just werking.

I'm thinking of either elementary or kubuntu

>>57338249
Whoa, I've been searching for this forever, thanks!

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>>57338335
https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html

>>57338362
kubuntu with pantheon

Are there any good GIMP guides and tutorials?

I can easily find them for PS for a specific thing; not so with GIMP.

>>57338335
Just enjoy the ride brother ;)

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How do I change the power off text from Shut Down... instead to say Oy vey shut it down?

>>57338538
Depends on the WM/DE my 'mate' :)
what are you rocking so to speak?

>>57338538
>I barely understand what I'm using but I must use it for shitty meme purposes how do

>>57338554
Unity and compiz

>>57338249

This completed my config. Now I can finally enjoy this ICCCM and EWMH compliant, X window manager,

>>57338249
P E R F E C T

>>57338570
epic

>>57338249
upvoted

How can I use lemonbar instead of i3bar?

Niggers, get bspwm, i3 is babby tier lacking ebin features.

>>57338636
nah mah 'nigguh' bspwhatever a shit!!!! it sucks balls

why is this thread so great? i'm not even od'ed on caffeine and it's still pretty fuckin' great.

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How to get HP F300 scanner to work in arch?
I've installed hplib and SANE.
Scanimage -L doesn't detect it, and when I try hpscan I get

error: hp-scan requires the Python Imaging Library (PIL). Exiting.

But PIL is installed for both python2 and python3.
Any idea?

Ok faggets, please help me improve my workflow.

Let's say I want to run expand over file1.

expand file1 > file1

doesn't work so I need to cripple myself in doing

expand file1 > file2
mv file2 file1

This doesn't look right. Please tell me there's a non-faggot way to do it.

>>57338362
#!
>rip

>>57338717

expand file1 | sponge file1

sponge is part of moreutils

pretty sure you could also write a shell script which works with /tmp/ files under the hood

>>57338717

TMP=$(expand file1) echo $TMP > file1

>>57338362
>What is the most aesthetic Debian based OS?
out of the box? bunsenlabs
>that I can't rice for shit
you can rice every distro, "you can only rice arch" is a myth

>>57338785
Why are there so many memes around arch?
- lightweight
actually bloated
- simple
actually complicated timesink
Like you said:
- riceable
like any other distro

What the shit? Why are people shilling arch this much?

>>57338785
>you can rice every distro
He didn't say you couldn't, just that he doesn't know how and so wants a distro that already looks good out of the box

>>57338818
monkey 1 discovers a riced desktop showing the arch logo, thinks arch looks nice, installs it
monkey 2 discovers a riced desktop showing the arch logo, thinks arch looks nice, installs it
etc
blame original monkey who fell for the arch meme

How do I make a persistent usb drive with alpine linux?

>>57338818
Oh boy, here we go again.
>>57338854
>alpine
Get rid of it. It's a meme distro. Busybox is for embeded systems only, it's also insecure: https://www.alienvault.com/blogs/security-essentials/the-mirai-botnet-tip-of-the-iot-iceberg?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=THN&utm_content=Mirai-Blog

>>57338888
I heard it was a good distro for usb.What should I use then?

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>tfw to intelligent to use linux

>>57338914
For usb? Maybe look into puppy linux. Runs completly from RAM. http://puppylinux.com/

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>>57338888
very nice repeating digits, goy

>>57338914
gentoo

>>57338939
Lel

>>57338939
I would just like to interject for one moment. The operating system you are suggesting for me to install, and rather commandingly might I add, will in fact, not directly solve my current problem at hand, and will actually cause me to ask further questions about the difficult process involved in installing it. Gentoo is a very nice operating system itself, but I'd rather you directly assist me in my quest to solve my current predicament.

I understand that many computer users run the Gentoo Linux operating system, and I realize they may enjoy it greatly and are not currently experiencing the current problem that I have whilst using my non-Gentoo operating system. Through a peculiar turn of events, I have noticed an enormous amount of users make the "Install Gentoo" suggestion, but many of its users are not aware that this suggestion, in most cases, is actually not an "easy-fix" to every single computer-related error.

There really are reasons for installing Gentoo, and there are people using it, but it is just for the few users who choose to compile their own source code locally according to their chosen configuration. Gentoo is just another operating system: the problems I am experiencing will not undeviatingly be solved if I make the choice to install it. All these so-called "Install Gentoo" suggestions I am noticing should cease immediately.

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>>57338920
>tfw you've seen Mr. Trump use linux at multiple occasions

>>57338979
sounds like you need to install gentoo

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>>57338939
I have a low opinion of Gentoo GNU/Linux.

>>57338979
Install gentoo

>>57339004
Yeah? Guess what? I don't give a f*ck about leftist opinions.
*spits on your face*

>>57339004
nothing that can't be fixed by installing gentoo

>>57339017
*unsheathes katanas*
*teleports behind you*

>>57339041
*uses time acceleration magic [x6]*
*takes out a usmc kabar*
*turns around and puts the knife at the arrival location of your throat*
bitch please...

>>57339120
*notices the knife but doesn't do anything about it*
*cuts off your head as the knife enters my throat*
*sheds a single tear as I die above your corpse, finally together with you*

Why did it have to be this way anon

Any true shell script hackers here? I need a way to generate a random number between 1 and 60 without using the shell builtin RANDOM (needs to be POSIX sh compatible).

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>>57339041
>>57339120
>>57339190

>>57339574

awk -v min=1 -v max=60 'BEGIN{srand(); print int(min+rand()*(max-min+1))}'

>>57339574

shuf -i1-60 -n1

You >>57339652 versus the guy she told you not to worry about >>57339667

>>57339680
>>57339640
'topkek'

>>57339574
desu senpai

//random.py
#!/usr/bin/python3
from random import randint
print(randint(1,60))

>>57339652
The problem with awk is it seed only every new second, so when you try to generate a random number with a sleep below 1s you get the same number.
>>57339667
shuf isn't POSIX

>>57339717
>

#!/usr/bin/python3

>not #!/usr/bin/env python3
lern2code faggot

>>57339574
/g/ confirmed tech illiterate lol

>>57339574
>please do my homework

>>57339720
shuf is as POSIX as awk, they are both part of the GNU coreutils which is itself mostly POSIX.

>>57339794 (You)
But no, I'm just a NEET looser, trying to write good code.

>>57339814
shuf is posix faggot, read the docs

>>57339814
Actually awk isn't even part of the coreutils, so it's more likely the system will have the coreutils than awk.

I have a flu,suggest some fun things to do.

>>57339842
>shuf is posix faggot

That's what I said.

>>57339574
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh#A.24RANDOM

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>>57339864
>random=`hexdump -n 2 -e '/2 "%u"' /dev/urandom`
>using deprecated backticks instead of $()
What the hell. Canonical confirmed for tech illiterates.

>>57339894
urandom is intel botnet

>>57338249

this should be in the OFFICIAL documentation, because it's so amazing

>>57338249
underrated post

Which is the superior UEFI boot manager?

>>57338776
>>57338717
>>57338776

Hi.

shwamm() {
    # Poor man's POSIX sponge.
    f=$(cat /dev/stdin)
    printf '%s\n' "${f}" >| "${1}"
}

$ expand file1 | shwamm file1
=)

>>57340300
-1 process with bash: f=$(< /dev/stdin)

>>57340300

>This should reduce the usage of file-roller so it can eventually be removed as an application.
https://razvanchitu.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/gsoc-2016-the-adventure-begins/

wtf i hate GNOME now?!

>>57340351
Didn't read your post, but the buzzword file-roller triggered me to shill atool. The trye way to manage archives.

>>57340379
atool is a wonderful program. No files scattered allover the place, no tarbombs, no need to remember any voodoo command flags, just run aunpack file and everything is NICE.
Buy atool NOW ang get one knife set for FREE.

>>57340412
I agree. atool is the best program to manage archives. It's so amazing!

>>57340412
You're completly right. There once was a time when everyone got some retarded extract() function saved from the arch wiki which couldn't handle more than one file and shit was vomitted allover the place, but NOT ANYMORE. Since I'm using atool, I'm managing archives like a true alpha man, it took just some days and I got a job and I've nice qt girlfriend too. Thanks to atool. I only recommend to install atool. It will improve everyones life!

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>57340625
windows 10

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>>57340639
>>>/out/

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>>57340639

>>57340639
>suggesting literally malware
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

>>57340666
nice digits
>>57340625
the one I'm using: debian sid

>>5734025
Manjaro XFCe

>>57340682
>have one discrete computer to play games
>have another computer with linux to work, mail, etc.

Literally nothing wrong with this

How to check CPU temp in Linux?

>>57341103
>How to check CPU temp in Linux?
lm-sensors

>>57341041
>>57341103
see >>57338250

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>gparted
>shrink volume
>awaits apply operation
>new partition table
>doesn't wait for apply operation, has a warning in gray instead of something like FUCKING RED ALERT
gee thanks now I have nothing
Can I somehow fix this? I had GPT and put msdos partition table

why do people try to greentext on other sites than *chan? its so cringy

>>57341223
It's called a quote.
>>57341214
Restore a backup.

>>57341214
making a new partition table only affects the partition table

if you remember the layout, you can literally just make that layout again and all will be well

you should use a tool like gptfdisk, as it can't/won't format the partitions

if you do not remember the layout, try testdisk to find the filesystems

>>57341214
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/a/

Is Debian Sid essentially rolling? Should at that point I run arch, or does debian still carry advantages?

>>57341242
>It's called a quote.
why are they acting like they're emailing someone then?

>>57341269
Sid is sometimes even faster than Arch. (got GNOME earlier than Arch for ex.), but it's still more comfy. Get apt-listbugs, run it, watch it, upgrade, feel save.

>>57341294
thanks anon

>>57341264
I ran gpart /dev/sda

It found 4 partitions but everything is zeroes. Is it dead? It's not very important to me.

How do I achieve the full Linux experience without the gay GNU part?

>>57340470
>>57340434
>>57340412
Does it support multiple archives too?

>>57341393
alpine linux

>>57341415
cancer

>>57341393
http://kernel.org/

>>57341393
Got interjected too often?

I can't get my visualizer to work in ncmpcpp.
Someone give me a retard walkthrough?

>>57341223
>>57341276
People want to show off how 'cool' or 'relevant' they are
Ask on >>>/trash/ next time, it's supposed to be for "off topic"

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>>57341393

>>57338716
kek, this image so accurately summarizes red hat

>>57341223
Lesbianism is prevalent.

Can I get a retard friendly walkthrough to getting my ncmpcpp visualizer to work?

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Glances is a free (LGPL) cross-platform curses-based system monitoring
tool which aims to present a maximum of information in a minimum of
space, ideally to fit in a classical 80x24 terminal or higher to have
additionnal information. It can adapt dynamically the displayed infor‐
mation depending on the terminal size.

Glances can also work in client/server mode. Remote monitoring could be
done via terminal or web interface.

This tool is written in Python and uses the psutil library to fetch the
statistical values from key elements, like CPU, load average, memory,
network, disks, file systems, processes and so on.

>>57341533
>python
>>>/trash/

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Hey /g/, what is the most rounded and complete theme for xfce.

>been running xubuntu for half an year
>wifi and ethernet stops working this morning
>update, reboot
>still doesn't work
>boot into manjaro live
>shit works
Time to switch to Manjaro

>>57341465
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ncmpcpp#Enabling_visualization

>>57341294
>""sometimes""
Almost never would be a better phrase

What ShareX alternative is there that "JUST" works on Linux?

>>57341742
xfce4-screenshooter

>>57341742
http://shutter-project.org/
http://lightscreen.com.ar/
https://github.com/aikikode/fileshare

All of these from googling "sharex linux"

>>57341533
Why write something that looks like htop but worse

>>57341698
>audio output no longer plays music
Epic.

>>57341677
Arc

>>57342017
Manjaro here I come

>>57342046
Nobody cares familia.

>>57341999
What's a good icon theme to use as Inherits for arc icons. xfce elementary?

Anyone use mpv? Do I need to install mesa-utils for opengl-hq setting?

>>57342092
Paper

>>57342218
Or maybe papirus?What's the difference anyway?

>>57336826
last thursday in November, so the break probably starts the same week but on tuesday.

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>>57340300
Can somebody explain this to me? Especially the ">|" part. I get that the first line saves standard input into the variable f, and in the second line it is printed back into the file, but why not simply use ">" ?

And why print an \n?

>install xubuntu
>apt can't install chromium
>OS shits itself when i try to rename folder on a mounted hdd
>old nvidia drivers
what a piece of shit

>>57342502
>apt can't install chromium

What? apt-get install chromium-browser

>>57342545
forgot what the error was

How much of a shitfest is installing nvidia drivers manually from their site?
I want to try the beta drivers on void

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>>57336781

>>57342502
>>OS shits itself when i try to rename folder on a mounted hdd
How did you try it?

mv poofolder/ loofolder/

or with the babby-method in the file browser?

>want to run linux
>no good distros

>Debian
>aptitude sucks
>SELinux not enabled by default
>project run and lead by SJWs
>Eclipse package is outdated (3.8 was four years ago.)

>openSUSE
>too many patches and brandings
>YaST triggers me
>KDE window decorations and effects
>have to use 3rd party repository for nonfree packages

>Fedora
>GNOME
>have to use 3rd party repository for nonfree packages

>>57342713
babby method ofcourse

>>57342769
Werks for me (tm).

>>57342663
Replace "Are you a NEET?" with "Do you hate Mac?"

>>57342761
>>Fedora
>>GNOME
xfce and mate spin is comfy af. As for 3rd party repo i've only ever needed it for ffmpeg

>>57342761
install gentoo. literally, it is great and gives you full flexibility. bleeding edge because you'll compile from source.

if you're on a low-end machine, you may consider arch. pacman is the fastest package manager by a margin. it's lighting fast on my dual core 1.6 GHz cpu. pacman's packages are all bleeding edge

>>57342761
>Debian
>aptitude sucks
Aptitude is optional.

>SELinux not enabled by default
Enable it.

>project run and lead by SJWs
Meme reason.

>Eclipse package is outdated (3.8 was four years ago.)
https://eclipse.org/downloads/eclipse-packages/

>openSUSE
>too many patches and brandings
How is that bad?

>YaST triggers me
Meme reason.

>KDE window decorations and effects
Don't use KDE.

>have to use 3rd party repository for nonfree packages
Not true.

>Fedora
>GNOME
Don't use GNOME.

>have to use 3rd party repository for nonfree packages
RPM Fusion is trustworthy.

>>57342914
I meant Apt. Apt sucks. RPM is much better.

>>57341523
the visualizer depends on MPD outputting the stream of audio samples to a fake FIFO file device. so first, you need to add the FIFO device to your mpd.conf just like any other device. then, you need to identify that device in the visualizer section of your ncmcpp config. finally, you need to make sure that mpd is actually outputting to that device. check archwiki for details

also, if you're compiling ncmcpp from scratch note that the visualizer screen is not enabled by default, you need to enable it when you ./configure ncmpcpp

>>57342802
Replace "Do you hate Mac?" with "Can you afford a Mac?"

>>57343076
>Can you afford a Mac?
muh stockholm syndrome

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Why you fags fell for obvious b8 post? So easy to trigger some of you with few pointless lines, almost pathetic.

>>57343290
>samsung monitor instead of a dell monitor
>not using the MS mouse with blue start button
>not using the ergonomic keyboard
fake window user

>>57343150
>muh stockholm syndrome
>[Stock·holm syn·drome] (noun) feelings of trust or affection felt in certain cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor.

if window/mac users have taken you hostage; move your cursor up and down, we will notify the police immediately.

i'm having an issue recently where files will continually download even though it should be fully downloaded, but it only looks to happen when i'm downloading iso files. i went onto netbsd.org to dl the image, but it kept going beyond 100% every time and the dl speed looked as if it were constantly increasing once it went beyond 100%. i tried the same in wget & in browser but the same results happened, sorry if i'm sounding like a moron but i'm not entirely sure what's going on. anyone know anything?

>>57342070
You did

>>57337069
manjaro-i3

>>57337328
manjaro-i3

>>57343668
>>57343694
manjaro-i3

> you have to use chmod to run a script
seriously, wtf is this shit? are mode flags an inevitable part of the linux kernel? I want to die, there are no good operating systems.

>>57343710
it's a security feature

>Linux Mint xfce as the main OS and Windows 7 virtual machine for Photoshop and other meme programs
Tell me why shouldn't I do just this?

what distro's would be Trump, Clinton, Johnson and Jill?

>>57343722
but I can invoke chmod without super user power, how is it a security feature then?
also, how to disable this "feature" then? I'm not some retard who runs untrustworthy scripts

>>57343710
in tty

cat /bin/ls

then try to type anything

>>57343710
If you use ./script.sh it needs to be executable but if you run bash script.sh it only needs to be readable.

>>57343753
i'd recommend against mint, but if thats what you want to do then go for it. make your own opinion on it

>>57336781

Ubuntu 16.04 or Linux Mint 18?

I want to Ubuntu 16.04 base so I can use the official AMDGPU-PRO drivers.

>>57343753
Sounds like a solid plan. I do ubuntu with windows in a VM for sketchup because it acts retarded in wine.

>>57343764
Ubuntu(get it? orange?), RHEL, Arch, anything GNU

>>57343764
since they all are against freedom and for a police state, I suppose some proprietary red hat distro?

>>57342606
pls

>>57343787
What's wrong with it? I've never had it on a physical machine, just tried it and on a VM.

>>57343753
Xubuntu LTS on main machine and widows xp in a VM, that's my way

>>57343795
*buntu. Mint fucked up security

>>57343842
you should read this article: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

Has anyone tried arch-anywhere openbox install?

does it come like comletely minimal or do they have an option for a little extra set up like xfce4?

>>57343895
doesnt it ruin the point of using arch to use arch-anywhere?
it says it's ment to be a 'diy distro' to 'learn how loonix werks'

>>57343823
wew
Go back to /pol/ if you don't like fun.

>>57343895

I've used arch-anywhere and it worked great.

>i've already installed arch from the install guide many times so fuck off

>>57343904
no. it does barebones like arch.just wondering if it had an extra option for openbox.

but it's no different form arch. fresh cinnamon install 414 packages. not the same as antergosa nd F the non arch installer lol. done it before don't need to bother

>>57343968

pacman -Syyu openbox

>>57343859
>Linux distributions as pet projects or showcases of a particular technology should not be advertised as stable, secure, production-ready operating systems.
>The multitude of Linux distributions that are functionally technical demonstrations, advertised as stable, and exist as a hobbyist project make the entire ecosystem look unprofessional.

spot on conclusion

>>57343904

Where does it say that?

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>>57343974
I know I am running openbox on arch. I just wanted to start fresh because i have another DE installed and some minor issues..Oh well I'll just stay put. lazy mode at moment

>>57344017
You can have as many wm/de's you want and they wont know about each other unless you tell them about each other, each one is there own individual environment

linux newb here
what the fuck is a tiling wm

>>57344017

>tfw your de will never look as good

>>57344051
something someone uses to make them feel superior to others

>>57344059
yeah but whats the difference from a normal wm

>>57342408
> is a simple redirection
> = to
< = fron

>| is special, bash has the feature to disable writing to files that already exist with the option "set -o noclobber". I usually have this enabled to prevent horror. >| forces writing, even when "noclobber" is enabled.

\n is a new line )printf by default doesn't print a new line)
>>57342663
Your meme is bad and you should feel bad for posting it over and over while nobody likes it.
>>57342962
apt is great when you know how to use it.
>>57343795
Ubuntu. Mint it horrible trash.

>>57344071
normal wm you can overlap windows.
tiling is non-overlapping frames.

>>57343848
I have Xubuntu 14.10 on a usb. If I install it will I be able to immediately upgrade to 16.10 without problems? I once jumped versions on Linux because it implored me to do so constantly and afterwards the computer was unusable.

>>57344016
>you do not have the ability/time/desire for a 'do-it-yourself' GNU/Linux distribution.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Frequently_asked_questions

>>57344071
It tiles

>>57344071
it "tiles" windows (they are fixed) instead of the windows being floating (they are freely movable)
aka an anti-feature

what font(s) is everyone rolling with

>>57344078
>>57343848

thanks senpai

>>57344094
wow, isnt that actually shittier?

>>57344071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_aA

>>57344102
You can have floating windows in a tiling wm.

>>57344106
yes
tiling window managers are a meme

>>57344106
yes, no, maybe. mainly user preference. it's handy for when you need a bunch of terminals open at once without wanting a full de.

>>57344108
nice video, but the arch logo at the end killed it

>>57344104
dejavu

>>57344104
Noto Sans/Serif and DejaVu Sans Mono

There once was a time where /fglt/ was good, people didn't write lowercase memes and newcomers got actual help.

>>57344180
the exact moment it went downhill was when the g was added to flt

>>57344108
looks fun but it's more rice worthy. i mean multiple workspaces does the jerb and alt tab. Unless everything you do is in CLI .plus it's always a bitch to set up

>>57344199
/flt/ was complete normalfag cancer.
- links to reddit
- shitty aps guy
OP even recommended Linux Mint.
God thanks it's over.

>>57344226
>normalfag
4chan is a members only club normies get out reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>57344209
You can go with i3, it's babbies first tiling WM and works out of the box. Should be in everyone's repos.

/flt/
>people actually being friendly
>people actually got help
>real discussions

/fglt/
>meme posting
>shitposting
>mostly flame wars

It was bound to happen once you let mentally challenged get their way.

>>57344209
With tiling wms you usually work with tags. For example, you can make firefox open alway on tagX (maybe workspace #3) or you move whatever window from tag1 to tag10.

>>57344303
/fglt/ did the most work. People were friendly, pasta was added, website was made.
The only memers are those "It's just Linux" fags shitting up the threads because that's everything they can contribute.

>>57344334
except all the wikis are from the flt threads. fglt can't even agree on changes to it because it just starts a flame war between debian and arch.

>>57344356
Your new is showing. The red vs blue team thing started just some weeks ago.

>>57344376
>just some weeks ago.
uh, it's been happening for months

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Is Linux really that good for software development?
I'm develop in Java but was starting to get into Python and Machine Learning. Is it worth to invest time in learning Linux and dual booting?
Or is it better to get a separate drive to dual boot from one? I was thinking of a 60gb SSD just for an Ubuntu install or something.

>>57344356
kek. debian shills are around for only a month now. arch has always been the go-to for beginners

>>57344413
>arch has always been the go-to for beginners

wat

>>57344426
they dive in head first because they don't want to be seen as using a "babies first distro"

>>57344410
if you use crap like java and python it honestly doesn't matter what OS you're using. you're going to be on several layers of abstraction, VMs and interpreters anyway

>>57344410
Stop learning Java, learn C. Not memeing.

>>57336781
Are those people getting blowjobs from the program?

>>57344452
The pic explains why using nonfree software makes you the nigger (or cuck as they say) of the programs developer.

>>57344426
>sticking to a guide and troubleshooting is hard
I said beginners, not learn-resistent tech-illiterates

>>57344410
Just install cygwin for python crap desu. Eclipse works the same regardless of the OS

>>57344478
s/nigger/colored person/

>>57344478
That doesn't make sense, as the nigger always cucks the cuck.

>>57344497
s/colored/coloured/

>>57344501
but the nigger is the one being possessed by someone, just like the user of proprietary software

>>57344410
i mean if you want to get into any professional environment chances are they're using macs, getting used to linux would provide the same fundamental understanding without the need to drop thousands on hardware.

but for your specific language use, os doesn't matter

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>>57344514

Are there any graphical MPD clients that allow me to shuffle only the selected part of the playlist?
Literally every GUI client listed on the arch wiki can't fucking do this.

>>57344549
What? It's correct English; the language of the internet, "color" is just some hillbilly US American English.

>>57344568
if you kiss your cousin you spell it "Color"
If you are normal you spell it "Colour"

pretty easy to figure out which one you should be using.

>>57344568
no, it's the other way round. everyone spells it like "color", only language purists and prescriptivist cucks prefer the obsolete britsh spelling variant.

>>57344565
I think clementine is a mpd frontend.

>>57344593
>obsolete
colour is the most used version of the spelling.

>>57344595
It's not.

>copy pasting this from sqt, please respond

I am going to make my own small physical media collection, and buy the few albums and films I enjoyed enough to purchase.

What I'm conflicted about is whether or not to go the bluray or dvd route.
I'm aware blurays and bluray players are already extremely cheap - but do you guys think it will ever hold the level of compatibility and inclusive level of support that DVD had?

Should I get it in bluray for the sake of future proofing?

Is it possible to playback bluray on linux? Archlinux documentation has a whole page on this, have any of you guys done it?

>>57344177
>Noto Sans
are you using kde?

>>57344654
No. Does KDE use Noto Sans?

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>>57344632
>colour is the most used version of the spelling
What fantasy world do you live in?

>>57344686
l think so

>>57344694
What the fuck happened in April 2015?

>>57344715
the col*r debates started

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>>57344694
non hamburger land

>>57344715
interest in those adult coloring books.

>>57344746
>Worldwide vs Australia
Of course a shitposter is an aussie

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>>57344746

>>57344413
This

Where did the sudden influx of SJWbians come from?

I apologize if this isn't the right thread to ask, but what's the safest way that I can upgrade my Wangblows 7 partition to W10 without fucking over my Linux partition?

I HAVE to use Windows for a few things, WINE works for most of what I need but not all.

>>57344831
>complain about flame wars
>call Debian users SJWbians

Can't wait for the next thread to be shit.

I'm not sure how the upgrade to W10 works but Windows usually overwrites your boot loader so you will have to install that afterwards but it shouldn't mess with your Linux partition, even Windows respects partitions.

Any Linux fags here? I've tried to make a Linux dual boot with Windows 8.1 and although I managed to successfully setup the Linux OS - I now am unable to boot into it.

I attempted to use EasyBCD but it said I couldn't configure any options because EFI is enabled on the system.

Whenever I go to the BIOS, there is no trace of my newly created Linux OS, same goes if I go to UEFI.

I would imagine this is a common problem, any ideas?

I am trying to set up my SSH server in such a manner that I can connect to it while it's connected to a VPN. I found this with an answer for my problem:

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/237460/ssh-into-a-server-which-is-connected-to-a-vpn-service

Sadly I actually know fuck all about networking. The top answer says that "You would need to add the appropriate iptable filters to restrict access to your public IP from non-ssh:22 sessions". How do I do that?

>>57345448
>Any Linux fags here?
no

>>57345618
It was a cut and paste fromSQT,sorry if it cause offence

anyone uses aptosid or sparky here? how are they compared to vanilla debian sid or stretch?

>>57345606
I don't know the iptables command off by heart, but it'll be something like

Iptables {YOUR IP} 22 -j ACCEPT

It should be easy to find on googkd

>>57345704
>debian based
Into the trash

do any other DEs have a decent alternative to kde connect?

Am I the only girl here?

I use arch btw :)

>>57345984
You can install KDE connect on any DE, dude.

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>>57345995
tits or gtfo

>>57346019
yeah i was just wondering if there's any similar systems.

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>>57346041
o-okay senpai

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>>57346129
>>57345995
>>57346041
IT'S BAIT

>>57346129
>image.jpg
kys

whats the best distro for servers?

>>57346129
nice birds

>tfw I used to be an anti-bloat autist
>Used i3/openbox religiously
>Decided to try something new 2 months ago and use KDE
>Have used nothing else since then
When did you graduate from anti-bloat autism?

>>57345995
There are no girls on the internet.

>>57346176
centos

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>>57346176
debian jessi