/pcbg/- PC Building General

>>57272659
back to this post.
>>57273757
>7 after every number
what kind of get is that

>>57273985
>what kind of get is that
One to match OP pic

What wrong with your current build? Budget, but decent. If you need more storage you can get another SSD

>>57274098
Trying to run ARMA 3 above 30 FPS online.

>>57274157
Tweak settings. ARMA3 is horribly optimized

>>57274254
Forgot to mention I also want my PC to double as a server for when I want to host for friends as well.

>>57274269
Not sure about server requirements. If you wanted to get an i5 6500 you'd probably get reasonable FPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK6RtmbEYsM

Should I get the 1070 AMP! Or AMP! Extreme edition from Zotac? Is the $30 price difference worth it?

>>57274390
yes get the extreme it is goat cooler + backplate.

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Would it be a bottleneck if I were to get a 1070?

>>57274390
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PxCtWX
Also, how much better are the 850 Pros than the EVOs?

>>57274307
Now, I could do that and save a lot of money.

Or, since it's christmas and my birthday are within a month of each other, I could get the whole i7 setup and call it good.

Case floor intake or top front intake?

>>57274666
Top front, unless you have a dust filter on the bottom.
Also, checked.

What's the best performance per dollar graphics card? 1070? 480? 1060? 470?

Trying to build a performance per dollar machine so I can use my money effectively. This is what I came up with.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/n4WPzM

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Fucking send help

threw together my pc tonight knowing a 290x was known to not work, and it doesnt work!

pls

>>57274535
No

>>57275396
470 if the binned (factory OC'd) models come down in price

Not exactly a price/perf build

>>57275676
what would be better in price performance? You can OC the 6600k,
16gb ram is cheaper per gb than 8gb
cheap 480gb SSD
cheapest z170 micro-atx

>>57275592
>threw together my pc tonight knowing a 290x was known to not work, and it doesnt work!

...

get a 1050ti/470.

i have an i5 6500 and a 1060 with a 144hz 1080p monitor. should i sell the 1060 and put the money towards a 1070?

>>57275915
what gams do u play?

>>57275808
I have a 7870 laying around that would work, but that's not really the point

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What would be recommended to make videogames run smoother and with higher settings (I'm not asking for like ultra settings but with most new games it's medium-low)

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PC is mostly for gaming and doing whatever on the internet. My budget is $250-$350. What can I do to make this computer play my games better? Buy a new GPU?

[spoiler]I got this as a gift last year and I'm not the best when dealing with PCs, sorry[/spoiler]

>>57276291
i saume you are in laptop.
940M thats your problem get a real GPU.

if you have a thunderbolt port may you use a external gpu.

>>57276340
>Sempron 145.
>What the fuck is that?
>Google.exe
>Single core processor.

1. Get a new CPU, Mobo, And Ram.
2. Get a new GPU.

Here's my suggestion.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKWPzM

Alternatively, you can get the MSI H110M ECO mobo for 60 bucks, but you won't be able to overclock anything in the future with the mobo and any OEM windows is locked to that mobo as well.

Is it just me, or does this not seem like a bad deal at all? About 1500 USD, for reference.

http://www.pcgamer.com/aldi-is-selling-a-surprisingly-powerful-gaming-pc-for-2000/

>>57276410
>no overclocking
does that mean I can't have games play at mid to high settings? And thanks for the suggestion on parts.

>>57276410
thiu guy is an idiot
can you tell me how in hell changing motherboard will upgrade performance?

>>57276407

dou you want a pc that works good and cheap or one that is expensive and looks like a art painting?

Dont Get more ram you dont need it.
(i was on 4g i year ago 8g now 0 improvements on games, i take it casue i need for 3d modeling)

Get new GPU first a 200$

Get a PSU forget af gay modular PSU

get a decent procesor you get a amd stoket that is working so get AMD procesor

heres come my recomendation.

feel fre to swap Gpu for 1060 or 470 that is your label choice.

i add and sdd cause that shit is really the best improve i have i long time ago SDD for op and most used programs Hdd form storage porn.

if dont have a 250W + psu swap the SSD for the PSU

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/C3q7Cy

>>57276543
Nah, it depends on the game.
You can run a CPU at stock speed, but on CPU heavy games such as cities, you'll see a significant boost in processing power, and reducing bottlenecks if you've got a decent GPU.
>>57276710
>Changing motherboards will upgrade performance.

Oh gee, I don't know, lets just slap an intel processor in a dying AMD chipset.

Or, or, get this- Lets overclock this baby on a H110M chipset, hurrdurr.

Oh, and I forgot to mention-
Kaby Lake is coming out, and it's on the same chipset that an i3-6100 is, skylake.

So that means if he gets the Z170 OC chipset with a cheap skylake CPU, he can upgrade to a kaby lake unlocked CPU for less than he would if he stuck with AMD.

Hi everyone,

Building a new rig mainly for photo editing/video editing. Being doing quite good in the real estate shooting etc so got a little bit of money and I can claim a fair chunk on tax return.

Was using an inherited i7 (first gen) with 8GB ram that i added an ATI 4870 for gaming fun.

I want go out a little bit but I'm stabbing in the dark as my knowledge is limited. Would appreciate any help or advice. Thank you in advance.

>Intel 1151 pin i5-6600 CPU
>Asus B150M-Plus mobo or anything you'd recommend
>Sandisk Ultra II 240GB SSD as OS drive
>Will use existing 2TB WD HDD as storage drive
>1070GTX or should I get a 1080GTX for extra punch with gaming?
>DDR3 8GB RAM 1600 or should I opt for DDR4?
>Coolermaster CM590III - I know nothing about cases? help?
>Thermaltake TR2 S 650W

Tell me what I'm doing wrong and right. Will probably pick up this weekend after seeking advice here.

>>57276479
GTX 1070 can be had for about $350

i7 6700K (not the locked version like the prebuilt, can be had for $330ish)
Hyper 212 or equivalent for $30
16GB DDR4 can be had for about $70

A decent Z170 mobo can be had for about $130

512 SSD can be had for about $100

Decent PSU for $50 and Case for about $60.

That's $1090. Roughly $400 savings to you, not to mention vastly superior OC on CPU and probably better cooling too.

>>57276787
>6600 non-K CPU
>B150
Just go with the 6500 and save some money, it's a 0.1 GHz difference in speed, not that big of a deal unless it's in the 4.0 range.
>1070
Pretty sure you're going to bottleneck, and if you have a 1080p monitor running at max 60 Hz\FPS refresh rate, then it's a bit overkill.
>DDR3/DDR4.
Mobo can only accept one of the two types of RAM, not interchangeable, which one is it?

>>57276787
Either get 6600k or go for 6500/6400

Using a Z170 mobo will give you OC for both options (yes non-K skylake can OC using BCLK) Also add a small aftermarket cooler.

1070 GTX is pretty good bang/buck. Meanwhile the 1080 is only about 20% more powerful YET costs double. Not a very good price/performance.

If you're using Skylake, DDR4 is the only option.

For PSU, get atleast an 80 +. Preferrably Bronze or Gold. Whatever your budget gives.

>>57276777

1º limited budget so you have to run most of games the better with that buget

2º obiuly the cpu you recomend is better but is more expensive. and NO GPU improbement.

3º more ram (he still have a shit GPU)
tell me how much fps he will win gayming with 8gb more ram instead of 4gb
the answer is 0


are you saying to me your build is going to get best perfomance that mine

i3 skylake+ hd 7800

or

fx 4300 + Rx480


i said to you the one that have better GPU


i tully recomde you read wath is for each piece on the computer.

>>57276833
>>57276834

Oh man thanks to you both, stuff I knew nothing about.

I'll get the 6500 or K, depending if the place I goto has either in stock.

As it is business related my budget is not a huge worry.

I'm using two Dell IPS monitors 2711 and a 2410, they've served me well so if you guys think they're okay I'll keep them.

I guess with the Ram i should just go DDR4?

Noted advice on MOBO, 1070 bang for buck over 1080 and PSU. Will adjust accordingly.

>Intel 1151 pin i5-6600K
>Asus Z170-P-D3
>Sandisk Ultra II 240GB SSD as OS drive
>Will use existing 2TB WD HDD as storage drive
>1070GTX or 1080GTX if i can make the budget work
>8GB DDR4 2400
>Coolermaster CM590III - I know nothing about cases? help?
>Thermaltake TR2 S 650W (which the site says is a 80 Plus)

^ how's that?

>>57276944
>I'm using two Dell IPS monitors 2711 and a 2410
Keep these

>I guess with the Ram i should just go DDR4?
You have to.

The PSU option is a bit dated. You can get Gold or higher, with your company budget.

>>57276904
1. In that case, lets cut it down to a G4400.
2. again, ^. GPU, I'll admit I missed that.
3. It's nice to be able to multitask on stuff and not run out of memory though.

And while I do accept the fact that while the GPU vs CPU comparison does indicate different levels of performance, we still have to watch out for bottlenecks.

And I'd go for a 1050 ti/470 if I wanted to be on a budget instead of an RX-480.

>>57276944
Motherboard is specified to work with DDR3 only.

As for a case, make sure the case fits the motherboard form factor.

ATX case can fit ATX, Micro ATX, and MiniITX Motherboards, and as you get smaller, you get the idea.

>>57276944
>>57277040
>Motherboard is specified to work with DDR3 only
He should swap to a DDR4 mobo.

>>57277040
that is a more razonable suggestion.
go for a 1050 ti / 470 is a nice point and also a good option

current using a fx 8320 play on main monitor POE while on second one Hearthsotne so multi task is not a problem.

intel is better on sigle performance amd is better on multitasking i usually recomend intell to normies. but in that case we have the mobo whit throw 50$ on new one? there is not so much diff.

>>57277054
no he does not diference in DDr4 and DDR3 on total performance is les than a 2% mostly

so if he swap to DDR4 he need to buy new Mother board 50$ + New Ram around 40$ per 4gb

lets pay 90$ for a 2% upgrade. I dont think so.

>>57273757
It's not directly pc, but much related.

Can someone post basic info on decent monitors?

What's best value for graphic design? What's best value for gaming? Can there be a compromise?

>>57277098
>40 per 4GB.
Pretty sure it's 40 per 8 right now, the lowest I'm seeing is 35.

>>57277098
Is he not buying a new mobo anyway?

>>57277115

nvm I didn't see http://www.logicalincrements.com/monitors

>>57277117
maybe my msitake
i correct mayself pay 70$ per a 2% improve
not good

>>57277143
ignoring the improvement though, it's also about compatibility and, if he can afford it, upgradeability.

>>57277143
Cheapest 8GB DDR3 module on newegg AU is 45 AUD

Cheapest 8GB DDR4 module on newegg AU is 39 AUD

So the point is moot. DDR4 > DDR3.

>>57277190
you are right in some part.

Is about with his budget + his actual build do the best machine

so there are some options:

Must upgrade GPu first options : 470 , 1050, 1050ti , 480 and 1060.

with some cards he maybe need new psu,
optional but really recomendable upgrade CPU.

2 ways.

1 consever Mobo and save 50$ must get a compatible procesor

2 change Mobo i this case i recomend Intel procesor.


ddr3 ram is the best choice here. and he dont need more ram.unlles he want to play 2 A++ games at same time.

Will AMD abandon FM2+?

Also why does Mankind Divided run so fucking horribly on lowest settings?

>>57277257
you forget the first point. is about you have to change Mobo.

with a 250 - 350$ budget is around 25% total budget and is that a lot.

the best Rerfomance/Money part is the GPU
so we have to put all money we can in that part

if you are gone change mobo then DD4r maybe will be and valid option.

>>57277306
> change Mobo
He is buying a new PC.

>>57277297
All current AMD sockets are abandoned. AM4 is a new unified socket.

Built my first PC using help from this thread. Been a honeymoon period for a month or so, now I'm running into problems.

Booted up as normal this morning, everything was very slow so I decided to restart.
Restarted, things were just as slow, but one of my case's fans wasn't running. Decided to shut down.
Upon slowly booting up, it seems my second hard drive wasn't being recognised. I restarted again and everything seems fine now and the drive is being recognised.

I can swear I'm hearing some screeching from my tower, but I might just be hypersensitive to noises now. Does it sound like my hard drive is genuinely dying or is it just one of those blips that happens?

Best performance per dollar skylake build?
What CPU/GPU?

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Is running a benchmark or CPU Z test the best way to check if everything is running okay?

Crossboarder kind of dumb here. I have a spare HD 6670. Can I pair it with an apu to do that dual graphics thing in Ubuntu? How would that work for like a communal steam games and movie PC to keep in the living room for room mates and guests? I'm relatively unacquainted with linux.

>>57277373
>Best performance per dollar skylake build?
Probably an i3 paired with 1060 3GB or 470.

>>57277424
What type of mobo?

>>57277025
>>57277040

Thanks again everyone, I didn't know that about ATX either, will adjust accordingly. Prices are in AUD... we're getting hammered with that exchange rate

>Intel 1151 pin i5-6600K = $ 324
>Asus Z170-P (now ddr4 compatible) = $ 175
>Sandisk Ultra II 240GB SSD as OS drive = $ 99
>Will use existing 2TB WD HDD as storage drive = $ 96
>Gigabyte 1080 GTX G1 = $ 999
>8GB Hyper X (kit 4gb x 2) DDR4 2400 = $ 75
>Aerocool Battlehawk = $ 92
>Thermaltake Bronze DPS G 700W = $140

Sounds decent I hope, I just picked a random half decent looking case that wasn't too much.

Went up on the PSU
and just picked the DDR4 version of the mobo.

Would more ram help with me editing videos on Adobe Premiere?

Think it would suffice for most games.

Thanks again to everyone offering help, this knowledge will help me with my next builds.

>>57277438
H110 or B150 mATX.

Same guy from the previous pcgb asking for a good z170 motherboard.
They suggested me these : Asrock OC formula, Gigabyte z170 ud5 and asus z170 deluxe.

Before yesterday I was think at gigabyte z170 gaming 7 or asus maximus VIII hero, but I can't still understand the differences between the first 3 and the last 2, all are good for OC and durability, what's the ''real difference'' ?

>>57277569
Difference is that mobos with anything flashy/gaudy like LEDS or "gaming" in the name will cost you extra. Concerning features, read the manuals and decide what you need and which is best.

>>57277373
>>57277424
I'd say a i5 6400 with 1060 3GB or 470 would be lot better.

Mainly because with i5 6400, you can BCLK OC it to 6600K level OC.

>>57277491
Get a single 8 GB DDR4.

Later on if you need more, another 8GB stick.

4gb x 2 is dumb when a single priced 8GB stick is same or cheaper cost.

>>57277750
OC 6400 equally to a 6600K? I want to see that.

>>57274157
>Trying to run ARMA 3 above 30 FPS online.
FPS are limited server-side last time I played. Doubt that changed.

>>57274254
>Tweak settings. ARMA3 is horribly optimized
It's not the best, no. But it isn't your average game, it's a rather compelx simulation. If you add to many units the performance tanks.

>i3 2100
>ga-h61m-ds2 mobo
>4gb ram
>Sapphire hd5670 gpu
>500gb Hitachi
>Aerocool StrikeX 500w

I use pc mainly for gaming and light editing
My budget is $300-$400. I need an advice on what to buy first to ugprade my rig. Help.

>>57277852
awesome, done and done

will post results when i get everything

now to start listing my old system on ebay

>>57277885
I'm on 4.3Ghz right now. I can go to 4.44Ghz stable if I wanted, but being that I'm on Hyper 212, I'd rather not push it too far. Maybe with proper watercooling I can push my 6400 to 4.6 or higher.

You can check 3dmarks timespy results. The top 6600K result has him on 4.7Ghz (probably custom cooling to push that far).

The difference between the two is most likely purely a cooling solution.

>>57278182
Whats your complete setup? Didnt this was possible.. Also, dont you need good luck with silicon lottery to get a good chip which actually lets you push it this far?

>>57278219
i5-6400
ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1
16GB DDR4 (@ 2133 Mhz)
GTX 1060 3GB

I went for cheapo build and it payed off( for now).

>>57278219
Also, I don't think its too much of a silicon lottery, all Intel shits have been able to push 4.3 easy. Real lottery is when it can reach past that point to 4.7 Ghz or so.

>>57278264
Interesting, maybe ill go for somethng like this but with better cooler. Been a while since i OC'd anything, last was C2Q 6600..

>>57274254
arma 3 is pretty well optimized

being well optimized doesn't mean you can just max every setting, the options menu isn't made for retards

>>57274535
maybe, maybe not

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-3217224/ultimate-bottlenecking-guide.html

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Is it possible to get these components (or better) bought and shipped to Ireland for less than €1400?

Case (Case) : Wildrabbit Case Black Rabbit
CPU (Processor) : Intel Core i7-6700 4x3.40GHz
Mainboard : MSI B150M BAZOOKA
Video Card (VGA Card) : Zotac GTX 1070 8GB (ZT-P10700A-10P)
System Memory (RAM) : 16GB Kingston DDR4 PC-2133 Kit 2x8GB ValueRAM
SSD : 250GB SK Hynix Canvas SL301 (HFS250G32TND-3112A)
Hard Disc (HDD) : 2TB Seagate HDD Barracuda 7200.14 2TB, SATA 6Gb/s (ST2000DM001)
Power Supply Unit (PSU) : 600W Corsair Builder Series CX600 80PLUS Bronze (CP-9020048)
CPU Cooler (Cooler) : Scythe Katana 3
Operating System (Ready to use installed) : Microsoft Windows 10 64Bit Prof. 

That's what I've seen offered as a prebuilt.

>>57278656
First, that build is absolutely retarded and not worth 1400, and second fuck off and google it yourself, there are more than enough tools for this.

I have a 2500k at 3,3 and I need a GPU

I'm scared to overclock and I'm wondering a 1050 will bottleneck.

>>57278713
probably won't, if it does, not by a significant amount

>>57278713
>i'm scared
Either learn it or leave it.
>1050 bottleneck
TOPKEK. Even an old Core 2 Duo probably won't bottleneck that thing.

>>57278758
>>>/r/pcretardrace

1050 isn't great, but it's still ludicrously powerful, a core2 duo would absolutely bottleneck it hard

>>57278700
>that build is absolutely retarded and not worth 1400
See, you say that. But I'm not seeing a price list to back it up.


If you can find it cheaper, please do.

>>57278286
It would be an effective cost saving method, however there are some concerns that might put you off.

iGPU gets disabled when using BCLK OC. AVX2 gets disabled as well (useful for CPU encoding videos). Ram memory might be stable only at close to 2133 mhz. No temp sensor in OS (mobo works fine).

These can be rectified easily however. No iGPU? Get discreet. No AVX2 for video encoding? Use GPU video encoding. Ram is 2133 Mhz? Not too much of an issue.

You also have to probably download an older mobo bios from mobo vendor (or online from one of the people) and flash that.

And if you're planning on using Win10, limit it so you delete genuine Intel mcupdate dll file in system32, disable windows updates, and get a Win10 ISO thats pre-March 2016 build.

All those things are tiny little annoyance that might add up, but if you're willing these can all be taken care of easily with 1-2 mins for each task.

>>57278713
1050 is garbage. Get a 1060 or RX470.

Just got a new card and now I have this choppy line when I scroll down on a webpage. How can I fix this?

Also, what is the best graphics card software/overclocker?

>>57278838
>1050 is garbage
what did he mean by this?

>>57278863
get a better browser

>>57278873
Very weak card

>>57278889
It happens on all senpai

>>57278892
it's not very weak it pulls BF1 on ultra in 1080p

As a console babby getting their first proper gaming computer, should I start with an NVIDIA card or AMD? I heard something about AMD lasting longer because of async computing or some crap? But that was on /v/ so it's probably fucking wrong

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>>57278779
>1050
>ludicrously powerful

>>57278779
>ludicrously powerful
Thats too much reddit for today.

poorfags should at least get a GTX 1060 or RX 470

>>57279288
Why? It entirely depends on what you play. If you only play LoL, Dota, CSGO or some older games at 1080p 60Hz a RX460 will do fine, no need to overspend.

>>57279156
amd is winning in vulkan and dx12, so they probably are somewhat more future proof in that regard

geforce experience is probably more idiot proof, although I guess raptr is similar

wrt budget if you spend more than about $1300 you need to reconsider your life

tiers
$450 - console killer
$600 - crysis killer
$800 - sweet spot
$1300 - full retard
$2000 - end it

>>57279469
wrt?

>>57279469
I like the term ideal and reality to describe AMD and nvidia.

If you live in reality, you should get nvidia. If you want the potential ideal performance, then go for AMD.

Reality can change in future, there's risk there.
Ideal can not come into fruitation or come too late, theres a risk there as well.

>>57279567
470 and fury has pretty good real world performance too though

>>57279567
Would something like a GTX1060/RX470 realistically last me at least three years with an i7 processor?

>>57279598
Yep

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Tz7yxY

It's purpose is going to be mainly video editing, and gaming in the downtime. Can I go any lower without sacrificing too much quality?

>>57279699
I might be wrong, but I think newegg AU has better prices than some of your stuff.

>http://www.newegg.com/global/au/

Double check if this is the right site. If it is, update your list and report back.

>>57279718
Half of the things aren't even available on NewEgg, god I hate being in the middle of nowhere sometimes

>>57279567
>Ideal can not come into fruitation
Is there any risk of Vulkan or DX12 not replacing DX11?

>>57279788
>http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106216

Found a better cooler here for $1 aud more.

>http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231963
Cheaper RAM

>http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137018
Cheaper GPU

>>57279908
People like you is why I love this website, thanks based anon

>>57279699
how much cpu power does video editing really need? on the contrary I'd say maybe more ram would be better suited for loading large video files, not necessarily fast gaymurr ram just more of it

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/n7PcM8
What does /g/ think? This is my very first build and Id like some feedback/being told I'm a retard and how to fix it.
Primary purpose is playing FPS/RPG with mods at high setting and some general browsing/torrenting of movies.

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>660Ti is at a constant 70 degrees when I run Gears of War 4.
What's the deal and how do I reduce that?
Getting the 1050Ti soon.

>>57282243
Whats the plan here? i5-6500 and OC it? Or you going to run it stock?

If former, then change the ram to 2133 Mhz.

If later, mobo is too expensive. Ram is definitely too expensive as well. Do you actually use mail-in-rebates? Otherwise get a cheaper PSU

Optical drive in 2017 - 2 months?

Also why not take advantage of the new G-sync monitors?

>>57282243
>non k CPU
>ridiculously overpriced MSI Gaming™ Z170 mobo
>3200 (((LED))) RAM
>paying for Windows 10
Complete autism.
>>>/v/

Hello citizens of /g/. I humbly come to ask a few questions. If this isn't the place, please point me to the right direction

I'm a computer illiterate, I've taken apart my old PC a few times but this will be the first PC I build entirely from scratch.
I want a good qualitiy build for gaming/watching movies that will last me a few years. As of yet, I'm not interested in overclocking and SLI, hence the CPU and motherboard.
In switzerland, this rig costs about 2000 CHF, I'm willing to got to 2500 if the cost is justified

So let's get to it.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3ghz

Motherboard: Asus Z170-Pro Gaming

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB)

SSD: SanDisk Ultra II - 960GB

Hard Drive: WD Caviar Blue - SATA 6Gb/s - 1TB

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming

PSU: Corsair RM Series RM650x - 650W

Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-ALPHA


What do you guys think? I'm hesitating to go to 32g of RAM if it's worth it, and I'm also wondering if I should add/replace fans on the case. The case isn't vital, it looks good-ish, if you think I should get an other please tell me.

>my 2500k is finally getting its ass kicked by newer software

Is Kaby Lake gonna be the time to switch?

Switch to i5-6500

Switch to A lower end mobo. Z170 is for enthusiast overclocking. B150 or H110 would do fine.

>>57282694
thanks pal

>>57282341
Thanks for the help, wasn't sure about RAM. Realize I don't need ODD, and thanks for monitor suggestion. Again, I don't know much at all.

>>57282361
Thanks for answering my questions. I'm still learning fampai.

>>57273757
Node 202 or ftz series for my mini conversion?

Planning on putting a 480 in. But I could wait for the 490.

>>57282804
>I'm still learning
Then learn some more and read the OP.

can I do better for ~1500 Canadian?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3vgp3F

>>57282341
gsync monitor is going to double the price all by itself

freesync or bust

Why is everyone suggesting 130+ Z170 boards for budget builds?

There's tons that can be had for 80 dollars.

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/qkX2FT/msi-motherboard-z170apro

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>>57283378
>msi budget motherboard

>>57283447
That show was such a let down

>>57283378
I don't know why people would want $100+ Z170 motherboards if they're not going to overclock, not going to use RAID/SSD caching, not going to have more than one graphics card, and not going to use another PCI/PCIe card.

>>57283378
Because 130+ mobos are quality and not bottom-of-the-shelf cardboard.

>>57283471
Which is why MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS, and ASRock all use cheap-as-fuck controllers on their motherboards even for their $200+ mobos. Then they'll sell you the exact same board with better sound/network/SATA controllers for $20 more because fuck you.

>>57283484
Oh yeah.. i forgot. This must be the reason why you can't OC on those shitty cardboard as good as on other mainboards and why that cheapo shit has higher RMA rates, right?

>>57283534
Most of the $120-160 boards overclock as well as a $200 board. The only difference is in the redundancy of the power phases and that's about it.

>>57283551
You asked for 130+ mobos, those are for example UD3, UD5, Z170-A, etc. Those a great mobos and worth every dime. Those 200+ mobos are another story, i'd only get those if money is no question and i really "need" something like this.

>>57283636
Those $200+ mobos aren't worth it unless you absolutely need to have a PLX chip (which is rare as fuck these days), a unique rear I/O arrangement (like two Intel NICs for port teaming), or watercooling compatibility. The problem with that is that in most cases, buying a simple PCIe add-in card will give you that capability for less ($160+$25 < $ 200+).

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PxCtWX
What should I change?

>>57283695
You do realize i agree with you that 200+ mobos are only worth if you absolutely need it or money is no issue? Otherwise 110-150 is go to and <110 only if you're poorfag.

>>57283727
Excellent build and taste m8. You may want 16GB RAM and additional case fans. There's also a non-window version of the Define S which is more silent and should be cheaper.

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Non overclock 1070 gaming build

r8

>>57283757
Okay, thanks.

>>57278611
It's an old game that struggles to get 30FPS on modern hardware. You're the only retard here

>>57283741
My point is that cheap motherboards aren't that much different from more expensive ones either. Overclocking mostly comes down to the CPU, not necessarily the motherboard itself. You just have more voltage leeway with more expensive motherboards, but that's mostly for people planning on putting higher than specified voltages through their chips. Those extra mosfets and power phases do little other than allow you to put more voltage into the chip for stability, at the cost of the board and CPU's lifespan. That's why they put more phases in, so that when one fails (and they will fail), your board won't go kaput.
You can still push an i7-6700K to 4.8 GHz on a cheapo MSI board if you won the silicon lottery. It's just that the board won't last very long with the amount of voltage you have to pass through it. You shouldn't be overclocking with more voltages anyway unless you're going for bragging rights.

>>57283766
Why 6700k if you don't OC ?

>>57278175
Don't do this >>57277852
Your RAM will be at 1/2 speed or slower if not paired.

>>57283766
>6700k
>100 dollar meme cooler
>Z170
>non overclock
???

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>>57283636
>>57283447
>>57283467
>>57283471
>>57283484
I said clearly """budget""" builds. You idiots are recommending $130+ z170's for fucking budget builds. Are you guys retarded. The mobo is the ONE component where you CAN skimp out on.

Budget builds will not need crossfire support/SLI, extra pcie, wifi, extra Ethernet ports, fan controllers etc, over clocking CPU.

In fact most budget builds, 95% run i3's that Do not even overclock.

All they need is a mobo that will power components, run a single card, and the rest of their components...LIKE EVERY OTHER MOBO.

You should be recommending sub 50 dollar mobos for those budgetters instead of 130 dollar mobos. Those 80 dollars in savings can go to a video card increasing performance by up to 100%.

Shame on you all.

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Simple question:
>gtx 1060 + i5 6400
or
>rx480 + fx8350
price doesn't matter.

>>57283727
hard drive for a wd ezex

>>57283795
then how did I get 40 on a build from 2008? checkmate

>>57283855
Nigga, read my post again >>57283467

>>57283855
>The mobo is the ONE component where you CAN skimp out on.

lolno. I did once and it was awful

balanced builds, always

>>57283871
i5-6500 and an RX 470
There is no reason why you should buy a dead socket like AM3+, FM2+, AM1, and LGA1150.

>>57283855
Calm down you autistic retard. If you want to cheap out on the mobo than go on, get the cheapest Biostar mobo available and fuck off, retard.

>>57283796
Honestly? I had my experiences in the past and the only mobos i'll ever buy are the likes of UD3 or if desperate some ASRock or MSI, otherwise Gigabyte all the way.

>>57283939
the 6400 needs 1151.

>>57283766
>non OC build
>i7-6700K
k den

>>57273757
What does Father Sweden have to do with /pcbg/ ?

>>57283939
why not the 6500 + gtx 1060?

>>57283871
fx-8350 is not on par with a 480

AMD has zero high end CPU's in their lineup right now

>>57283957
I've been building systems for clients for well over half a decade now. If they pay me extra for an overclocked system, I really can't go wrong with a cheap Z170/Z97/Z87/Z75/P67 system given that it will reach the same clock with the same stability at the same voltages as a much more expensive board, as long as the voltages never exceed 1.3V. More money in my pocket for the same results.

>>57283966
I know, dummy. That's why I said that the LGA 1150 is a dead socket. At least you can still upgrade to a Kaby Lake CPU with the 1151 boards

>>57283914
>works on my machine
Low 720p with an i9, doesn't mean it's not one of the worst optimized games

UNO atheist

>>57284036
But soon with the Zen?

The issue with recommending expensive z170's to budget builds is that they don't need it. You all know that.

What they need is to squeeze as much performance out of their money. Mobo will not affect performance.

A simple stock i3 is enough.

The biggest issue that this general has however, is that the anon's wanting advice is not your client. You are not getting any money out of giving your advice or building their set up or recommending parts.

If you are not familiar with how to actually satisfy a budget and have zero sense of savings and performance per dollar, please do not reply to those budget builds that need help.

>>57284102
Their 8-core Zen will be on par with a 6-core Skylake-E at best due to its significantly lower clock speed. It's not going to go past 2.8GHz base and 3.5GHz turbo on one core.

>>57284228
With DX12, a lowly A10-7860K can keep pace with an i5-6400. It's a shame that you need Windows Botnet to achieve that with a handful of shitty AAA games.

>>57284102
yes, soon

>>57283471
all z170 are quality boards. 130+ simply have more GAMER look and few extra features that 95% of the buyers dont need

>>57283846
>he fell for dual channel meme

kek

>http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/does-dual-channel-memory-make-difference-in-gaming-performance/3/

Show me the best portable case.

I need to move it around a lot in university and if it could even fit in backpack that would be great.

I really would like a full size card too, at least there isn't any Polaris/Vega nano out yet to provide something small.

>>57273757
>All this talk of kaby lakes and vulcans.
>Sitting on 2 grand of the queens finest to make a new PC.
>Haven't upgraded since 2011, still using EVGA 560.
>Still haven't had that slippery and sexy SSD experience.
>Brexit predicted to make everything 30% pricier after christmas.
>Black friday rapidly approaching.
>Barely play videogames anymore, haven't bought one since 2013.

Fook lads, what am I supposed to do here. I can't handle it.

>>57286049
Move to America and assemble a new PC.

>>57286049
Are black market PC component dealers a thing?

>>57286049
I want a new pc as well but I don't play games anymore also. Think it might just be a pointless waste of money.

>>57285494
>2 games don't benefit
>so there is no benefit

try the same benchmark with forza 4

>>57277306
Are you just retarded

>>57286410
>Forza 4
The benchmarks says 31FPS average and 30FPS minimum on all hardware

>>57286410
>Forza 4
>512MB of GDDR3 at 700mhz
>no discrete VRAM

>rx 480: 150watt
>gtx 1060: 80watt
>same performance
How?

>>57286756
amd can't into efficiency

Hmm I wonder how well an FX-4300 would overclock. Thoughts?

>>57286793
Good luck.

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Rate the build
It's basically for video editing and at least playing Dark Souls 3 at 60fps

>>57287179
Worth noting that the processor and the mobo are bundled together hence why it isn't listed

I'm building a new PC and the Seasonic G-650 I wanted is back ordered. I was looking at this as a replacement:

EVGA SUPERNOVA 650 G2 (220-G2-0650-Y1)

Any comments or concerns before I swap it out? rest of PC will be:

I7 6700k
16gb ram
GIGABYTE Z170 MX-GAMING 5
3hdds + 1 SSD
1060 Twin frozr 6gb

>>57287179
like I said before, possibly more ram and less cpu might be better for editing, and be better matched to the 1060

>>57286756
1060 is 120W retard

>>57287691
More than 16GB? There's two of that RAM thing

/g/ I'm looking to spend around 900 bucks for a pc. I need it to be as future proof as possible (within that budget) I'll be using it for gaming mostly and some everyday stuff.

I have no idea what I'm doing so please no bully

This is a "built" I had saved you're welcome to improve it

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vC8Cr7

>>57287749
oh I didn't notice

wouldn't a kit be cheaper than two singles anyway?

>>57286049
Just buy a SSD and call it good.

>>57287749
not him but RAM isn't that expensive, and video editing definitely benefits from it.

>>57288057
Change the 480 to a 1060 and it's perfect.

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>>57288067
Nope

>>57288092
I mean, 32GB would be double the price, I might get these for now and upgrade when I can

>>57288057
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vC8Cr7
not sure you an OC on a B150

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>>57288057
step both the cpu and the gpu down a notch, very little performance difference but loads cheaper

can dump the sound card too, gigabyte integrated is pretty good, unless you need one of those headphone amp xonar meme cards

>1tb ssd
pic

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CprnGf

>>57288209
>>57288197
Do NOT fall for the AMD Vulkan + DX 12 meme. Get a 1060, trust me.

I have a 750k CPU and R7 260X. Is there any point in upgrading this PC, or should I get a new PC.

Here's the build I'm looking at
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bfFqbj

Or should I slap a 1050 in my build and call it a day.

>>57288241
If you can afford this, for it.

>>57288254
I can, it'll just be about 2 months. only thing I'm worried about is the GPU being too low for the system, but I'm only going to be gaming at 1080p anyway.

>>57288230
$0.2 have been deposited into your account

470 is quite competitive even without vulkan

>>57288267
2 rupees have been deposited into your account, Pajeet.

Has anyone bought anything used from Amazon from their "Warehouse Deals" bullshit? They've got 1070s there as "Item is in original packaging, but packaging has damage." for $380. As I'm trying to jew my price down enough to buy a 144hz monitor with my build, do you dudes think itll be fine?

>>57288406
No, get a 1080. The 1070 will bottleneck.

>>57288497
Even @ 1080p?

What would you guys recommend for a 1TB hard drive?
I was thinking to get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

What's the 2016 equivalent to the G5/G500 mice? Logitech's new stuff doesn't look as well built or comfortable.

I have a G500 and after all these years it's begun to double/triple click and it happens pretty often.

>>57288732
Just anything not Seagate. WD Blue is fine. Otherwise if you got the $$ get a SSD.

>>57274269
Guys, I have a question-
so if I get another stick of ram, and a i7-6700K for an H110M mobo JUST for the sole fact it's running at 4.0 GHz and the 6700 non-k isn't, and I can get it for b-day/christmas, is that a good deal or should I just ask for cash for a new windows and mobo+CPU should Zen actually be good?

What are some micro ATX 1151 mobo that has 16x pcie slot at the top and 1x slot at the bottom, or 1x slot above the 16x slot? Also optionally, decent sound chip is welcomed 'cause I usually listen to music.

Is there a site that shows localized, historical prices from different sites for specific hardware? For instance, I'd like to know what proportion of video cards drop in price, and by what amount on average, during typical sales period. pcpartpicker doesn't do that - not only is the date range severely limited but the values they have are way off. They also don't have any real way to interact with data in this way. I want something in the same veins, but more designed around that kind of exploration.

>>57288497
Why would you ever get a 1080? It's twice as expensive as a fury X while offering only 10% better performance, and no async compute. By the time you need more than 4GB and less than 8GB of vram, your 1080 will perform like dogshit anyway, while the fury X will probably still chug alone fine (beside memory requirements, which can often be stripped with simple hacks or even config changes).

>Sapphire rx 480 8GB at 1306 Mhz is $239 on sale on Newegg
>1342 Mhz version is $279

Is that extra tiny bit of Mhz really worth that much extra?

>>57290000
You can overclock that card to 1342 easily.

>>57290075
Yeah I'm sure, although I don't know how myself, but I'm wondering if it really makes that much of a difference in performance.

BF1, 1080P, under 850 before rebates. not too ricey plz
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/m6GNyf

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9NtRFd

Shitposting, VERY light gaming (osu), image editing, music.
Should I get an aftermarket cooler? I use open headphones 95% of the time I'm on my PC. If so, any recs?

>>57290457
>http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9NtRFd
you should wait for amd new apu, even a a8-7600/a10-7700k has a better igpu and it doesn't sound like you need much compute power

My pussy is getting wet for AMD Zen. When and how much will they cost?

>>57290686
Eight core will start at $500+ and probably top out at around $900.
Six core might start between $300-500.
RR APUs will compete with the i5 in the $200-300 bracket.
BR APUs will have to do in the sub-$200 market until dual-core RR APUs take over.

>Been a poorfag for so long,haven't upgraded Windows fucking VISTA still
>Have some money now, finally, but still kinda short since I don't have a job.

I'm almost tempted to pirate Windows 7 temporarily while I slowly build my PC over time just so I don't have to be stuck with this piece of crap OS I've spent too long on.

>>57290430
You're missing the led PSU

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Gsx9W
here's a bottom feeder build that isn't retarded. cheapie tower cooler because it's quiet.

>>57274348
moar dota memes pls

>>57283766
>non oc goes for K series
>poo cooler
>3000hz ram
>859 pro instead of evo
>seagate
>zotac

Out of 8 components you got 3/8 right.

>>57291369
Whats wrong with Noctua and zotac?

>>57290827
No way. With this pricing AMD will be finished.

>>57290457
Its shit. Dont get CX PSU and get a much cheaper mobo.

>>57290430
Complete utter trash, also >>>/v/

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hbXp3F

Before everyone rips on me,
Shipping is expensive here so newegg and Amazon are it. This is a 15khz machine where the gpu will be flashed with atom-15 and I will be running crt_emudriver 2.0 to force 240p to a old medical monitor via BNC breakout to play old console vidya, figured why not 1151 so it has some future if I decide to rebuild.

Is it .too much? Id like to run PS1 with the new texture correction plugins at 60fps solid. All I have now is a softmod Wii

>>57291815
Could be too much, idk, but get the smaller H15 case and EVGA 500B, Corsair budget PSUs are trash.

>>57289514
Anyone? Forgot to mention I don't OC, either going to use an i3 or a cheap i5.

I found a intel atom board with like 12 watt TDP to replace my gaymen asus board for my server. id like to cut down the heat and power draw since my room turns into a sauna even on cold days. I have a 550watt PSU in there right now. How much power at the wall is this thing gonna draw with a bronze rated PSU? I don't wanna replace this board if its still gonna draw 80 watts cuz the PSU is inefficient as fuck. I don't really understand efficiency curves on super low power boards and big PSUs.

>>57292110
I doubt something like this exists, never seen a standard mobo with a PCI slot above the CPU..

>>57292156
I didn't mean the pci to be above cpu (I don't even think such thing exists) . I'm looking for mobo in which the 16x slot is top most (still below cpu, if I'm not being clear) and 1x is at the bottom. Every thing I found so far has the 1x slot either next to the 16x one or 1 slot away, whether I need them being 2 slots away while the mobo remains being micro atx.

>>57292269
I doubt this exists, i'd say go for ATX if you absolutely need this. A rather small case for this solution is the Define S which you can easily reuse later on.

>>57292093
I know it's stupid oversize and ugly but the combo + shipping makes it dirt cheap and it's an old endoscopy crt cart so there's plenty. It'll be cleaner than the cobbled laptop + egpu setup I was planning before.

Thanks for the PSU tip,

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>made my computer so quiet I mistook it for being off

t-thanks deepcool, evga, bequiet, and case fan resistors

>>57282635
Why would you get a z170 if you're not overclocking then? You could cut the cost down and get a b150 or h110

>>57282635
>1tb ssd
>1tb hdd

what did he mean by this

Guys,is there any good white mobo and PSU?I'm trying to make a white themed thing.

>>57282635
Buy a cheaper motherboard, Z170's are for overclocking

You could save a ton by buying a 120 or a 250GB SSD for your operating system and programs, and just use a large HDD for storing media.

16GB of RAM is plenty, 32GB would be a waste of money

Fury X for $500 or 1080 for $850? Or should I wait for a better sale?

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Hey /pcbg/, planning my first build ever, what mobo would you suggest for someone who is going to get a Sapphire RX460?
I'm trying to keep my hardware somewhat balanced in terms of performance/price and build cheap and functional pc, so far i've decided the following:
>Cougar MX310 case
>HyperX Fury Series 8GB
>EVGA 430W
>Seagate barracuda 1TB
>Cougar Vortex 120mm

Any suggestions are welcome, i do live in Brazil though so price/availability could be problem.

>>57293898
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8vCr7

something like this? bear in mind 4gb cards seem to make a decent impact on benchmarks

>>57294133
Lol'd

This is most likely what I will be getting. Any improvements I can make?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qT7gPs

>>57294310
Yes, start by scraping everything.

>>57293097
If i have money this will the thing i go for first, being quiet that is. My fucking pc sounds like jet engine even at half load.

>>57293898
H110 + i3-6100, 430W might become a problem in the future.

>>57294310
Get the 6G version, everything else is fine.

It's a reference rx 470 4gb a good buy for 185€? Keep in mind that in Europe the prices are awful right now specially here in Spain

https://www.amazon.es/SAPPHIRE-11256-00-20G-Tarjeta-gr%C3%A1fica/dp/B01J1J7SJQ/ref=sr_1_11?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1477750636&sr=1-11&keywords=rx+470

So I'm getting a new computer to play wood elves in Warhammer TW. I haven't had a tower computer for six years, and I don't have a keyboard, monitor, or anything. Any recommendations?

>>57289486
Anyone?

>>57294861
Yes. Go for it.
But do watch temps, card can get hot fast.

can someone recommend a microATX mobo which has a PCI slot so it's not the first one next to the CPU slot?

i'm trying to fit a noctua d-15 in the fractal define mini but it impedes the first x16 slot most mobos have.

and i dont want to have to splash out for a £200+ one with two x16 lanes.

>>57295014
The case that's going to host the gpu has a really good ventilation. I was more concerned with the throttling and the problem with the pci-e power thing that the original rx 480 had. Is it fixed? did the rx 470 even had the same problems?

I'm thinking of building a computer for working towards certs such as CCNA, Linux+, Windows+, Security+, maybe CCNA/CCNP.

This parts list is for a computer for virtualisation, maybe through Hyper-V, maybe through QEMU. Either way I'll probably stick my old 760 in it, I have a 128GB SSD, and 2 1TB HDDs already.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TZMKhq

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Working with this and a reference 770. Another anon told me upgrading the graphics card would be the best improvement.

Is it doable under $200 for a significant upgrade? If not, what do you recommend?

>>57295281
gtx 1060 3gb or rx 470 are just about exactly 200 and should be a pretty solid upgrade

>>57294829
Are you sure its worth $50 for about 7% extra performance and double vram?

>>57295457
Hm, it would be half the vram, still worth it?

>>57294797
Interesting, the H110 does fit my budget, i can get a FX8320E for cheaper than a I3-6100, not sure if it's worth the rastle of looking for a HD110 compatible though.
Why would 430W become a problem?

Found a super-cheap 3TB HGST drive, should I go for it? It's refurb'd and I'd like it to not die on me in 3 days.

Good size mid tower with dust filters?

>>57296111
Fractal Design Define S or R5

>>57295281
Post speccy, but yes, an aftermarket 470/480/1060 would be a decent upgrade from a 770. Your 770 is approximately 1050Ti level. Personally I'd hold out until Vega and Volta show up sometime next year.

If you don't have an SSD that would probably be your best upgrade.

>>57293898
To me B150 + i3 6100 is the only way to go right now.

>>57295483
Depends on how long you want to keep the card, if you care about resale value, and if you want to possibly have nicer texture option. The 1050Ti comes as a 4GB card only.

>>57295853
I wouldn't buy refurb HDD, but I don't have any scientific basis for that

Just ordered an i5-6600k and a Cooler Master hyper 212 evo.

What should I order next?

>>57296385
Some planning skills and a Z170 mobo

>>57296344
Is there one with a 5.25 slot?

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>>57296361

>>57296433
whats a good mobo with good onboard sound?

>>57296533
Anything that doesn't have a via chip.

>>57296503
Hold on to your 770 for another year unless you can't get the perf you need

Should I spend the money on 6700k/7700k + MB +ram or just buy an used 3770K? Already have a z77 mobo + ddr3 and currently using an i5 2500.

>>57295853
>It's refurb'd and I'd like it to not die on me in 3 days.
Depends on where they were refurbished. If it's Hitachi/HGST's own warehouse, they do a thorough check to see if the returner wasn't full of shit before putting it back on sale as a refurbished item or tossing it out. Most of the pleb normies who buy and return their hard drives do so because they don't know anything about how hard drive work and think tiny scratching noises the actuator makes is the telltale mark of a dying hard drive.
Third party refurbishers are a bit more sketch, since they just do the bare minimum tests to see if it works and puts it back on sale as long as the drive is not physically damaged.

Going to be mainly for gaming in 1080p.
Open to suggestions, just know that this is my first build and I'd like to keep it below 800.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vdHKhq

>>57297407
This would work, but you can do so much better:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/G9tbkT
Cooler, one case fan and the HDD are optional. You could for example leave out the HDD, one case fan and if you can live with the shitty stock cooler that as well to get a better GPU like a RX480 8G or 1060 6G.

>>57297264
3770K

>>57297407
Get the 240GB ADATA SSD
Get 2TB HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UM3102206

is mini itx a good idea for a build with i5 6600k and gtx 1070?

>>57297279
Is there a way to know that? The warranty information still lists HGST/hitachi, so hopefully it's still them, but I don't want to gamble too much.

Is buying a gold rated PSU a meme if you're only going to be playing games from pre 2010 and some photoshop? None of my components will be OC'd and they're entry level parts. Looking to buy a 500w bronze PSU

I am switching from DDR3 to DDR4,I work mainly with photoshop and video editing.Are the G.Skill Trident Z any good or is there a better/best bang for buck 32 GB ram kit?

how do I decide motherboard size? Is there a list of a bunch nice looking cases? I will be OCing a 6600k with the 212 evo.

>>57298406
Get a Z170. Look for features you need and the price. Then buy one.

>>57298396
Take whichever 3000/3200 kit is cheapest.

>>57298464
I know I'm getting a z170 I'm just having trouble picking a case. The case I get will decide the form factor of the mobo, itx, mATX or ATX.

>>57298489

I just asked >>57297988

There are two nice cases for ITX imo, Corsair 250D and Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX.

I see a lot of people buy a 250GB SSD to go with a HDD instead of one large capacity SSD. Are people just trying to save money or is there some downside to 1TB SSDs and the like?

Are LGA2011 cpus overkill if you just want to play everything at 1080?

>>57298525
>Are people just trying to save money
>1TB HDD 50 bucks
>1TB SSD 300 bucks
You tell me.

>>57298554
So people just don't know how to shop smart, got it. I thought maybe there was some weird issue with high capacity SSDs.

is there any way to make this build cheaper/better?
mostly for work (shitposting) and occasionally video games
roughly what i am going for so far
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NWpM3F

>>57298599
>shop smart
Where i live the cheapest available 1TB SSD is 260€, it's just stupid. You can get a 6TB HGST NAS for less.

>>57298511
I think I'm going to get the Enthoo Evolv ITX red window and then just go for a neat red/black theme at no extra cost.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qR8vZ8

I like the onboard audio options and want something portable that also actually looks good.

>>57298705
Not much to change, just a few things: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pnrcc

>>57284028
470 is generally cheaper and "good enough"

>>57298525
>>57298599
AFAIK if you leave an SSD off for a long period of time it loses (thereby corrupting) your data. Not good as a storage drive.

>>57298545
If you have to ask this question you're retarded.

>>57298705
Get 3000MHz RAM and a 240GB SSD

>>57298907
Exactly

>>57298951
>If you have to ask this question you're retarded.

So...yes?

>>57298554
If only. Over here, 1TB HDD = $200, 1TB SSD = $2000.

>>57273757
Does anyone know the most realistic build price that is at least VR Ready on black Friday and cyber Monday deals?

I been trying to build a VR ready build for cheap with hope that oculus comes with deals on the oculus rift and oculist touch

>>57298988
WTF, do you live in Afghanistan?

>>57273757
gtx 950 2gb or r7 370 2gb?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/g2CkwV

Anything I can improve?

>>57295215
Any feedback whatsoever on this?

absolute poorfag here. Which one should i buy?

https://www.amazon.de/XFX-RX-470P4SFD5-PCI-Express-Grafikkarte-schwarz/dp/B01JM2DF2G/ref=sr_1_14?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1477776172&sr=1-14&keywords=rx+470

https://www.amazon.de/Sapphire-11256-00-20G-GDDR5-Grafikkarte-schwarz/dp/B01J1J7SJQ/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1477776172&sr=1-12&keywords=rx+470

https://www.amazon.de/ZOTAC-GeForce-1060-Experience-Mini/dp/B01KKJAJM4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1477775977&sr=8-3&keywords=gtx+1060+3gb

200€ is my absolute maximum so my options are limited but i think any of those gpu's will do the work at 1080p

>>57299364

470 is the best card for your cash right now imo, go with the Sapphire should work good for your purposes

>>57299229
Everything.

>>57299364
That 1060 is better than the 470 in every single respect.

>>57299496
>>57299446
the 3gb concerns me but then there's bencharks like these that make it seems like the 1060 3gb is a step beyond the 470

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R76wLCxRXY

>>57299581
A 1050 Ti is closer to the 470 than the 470 is to the 1060 3GB

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>>57299035
I wouldn't go any lower than this
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=XQsJxr
VR isn't here yet though. Soon wireless units with inside out tracking will be available.

>>57299136
Best option is used 4GB 380x. Otherwise 4GB 1050Ti.

If you're just playing mobas then 2GB 1050.

>>57299364
Any 470 with a factory overclock

>>57299496
>>57299581
3GB 1060 will be about 10% behind the 6GB version because the chip is cut down by that much. 470 = 1060 3GB new games or better

>>57299628
what? i've been reading benchmarks and that's a lie

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>>57299628
You're a literal retard

>>57273757
>a thread for the simplest fucking thing

What do you guys do with old computers after building a new one?

>>57299810
Sell any excess old hardware, leave the skeleton in the closets.

The old skeleton then gets taken to electronics recycling.

>>57299779
It's really about choosing the best parts than actually building

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Need some help on this new build I'm putting together for Christmas:

Purpose: High-intensity gayming
Budget: £2000 (~$2400)
Country: UK

My current design is
>Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
>Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive
>MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card
>Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case
>Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

This isn't a complete list and I fully expect this to change.

Some questions I have:
My knowledge of RAM is limited, is Corsair a decent make? I was originally thinking Kingston but Corsair has some very good reviews.
The HD I've chosen is a hybrid but only has 7.8GB SSD space; is it realistic for me to want something a bit bigger, around 50-100GB to put my most played games on?
I've always known MSI to be a good gaming make but how much difference is there REALLY between them and other manufacturers for the GTX 1080?
I know very little about motherboards, other than making sure it has the right number of ports and can fit in the case, what do I need to check for? (chipset compatibility etc.)
I want a good cooler for my CPU, considering it's overclocked and I'll be using it a lot for gaming, what does /g/ recommend?
Is my case too big? Should I get the MicroATX model instead of the Mid?

Some advice I've received previously:
If you want to get the most out of the 1080 over the 1070, get a 4K monitor. (Any advice on size and make?)
Get the 6700 version of the i7 to make it future proof (Which I've since done)
Get a decent case without LEDs all over it (Cooler Master seems a decent choice)
Do you really need a CD/DVD reader/writer? (Yes, I use it for work)

Anything you guys can help me with or comments you have on my design choice would be really appreciated.

>pic related, the CM case

>>57299839
>It's really about choosing the best parts than actually building
nobody here chooses the best parts

>>57299810
I find new uses for them. I have an old J1900 board that I'm turning into a VPN server. It works pretty well, if a little slow when downloading files from my FTPS server through it.
Currently looking for a purpose to give to my ASSRock C2750 board. My Supermicro Xeon-D1521 thrashes it at everything except power consumption.

>>57299927
Get an SSD if you can afford this kinda of money

Samsung EVO 500GB is a decent with recommend then also keep the 2TB for games
and such

Upgrade ram to the same type but 3000Mhz version i think its a few quick different and can help with framerate a little (2-3fps)

Don't get meme 4k

I would recommend some like the Dell U2515H or U2715H

2560x1440 + Fast IPS panel with beautiful colours.

>>57299929
>best
It's like you don't know that words have various connotations
Also look at this uncultured faggot >>57299927

>>57299927
>If you want to get the most out of the 1080 over the 1070, get a 4K monitor. (Any advice on size and make?)
don't bother
4k is uselss unless you go 40"+
lower than that and you'll have to scale up and you get no more space after all

>>57299927
You have an overclockable CPU so you'll want a Z170 motherboard (full size ATX for that case, get mATX motherboard and case if you want a slightly smaller PC, ITX is even smaller but has hassles. If you have a Z170 motherboard you'll want speedy ram (3000mhz is best price/MHz), manufacturer really doesn't matter (plus none of the resale brands make their own ram anyways), make sure it fits with what CPU cooler you're getting
You do NOT want a hybrid drive, get a cheap WD blue or something and a small SSD for boot and small programs. Alternatively, buy two SSDs and throw them in RAID for speed and storage
GPU reseller brand doesn't matter much (and even less in this efficient generation), it's just the cooler attached to it. I got the cheapest gigabyte one and like it, MSI normally does good on their coolers, so does EVGA but they're having recent problems
Most CPU coolers are good, the $25 hyper 212 is the cheapest option that will work with a mild OC, but you might want a bigger one for heavier overclocks
A 4K monitor is awesome but you'll need to turn down some settings to play games AT 4K (or you could play it in upscaled 1080p), the 1080 isn't quite ready for 4K 60fps gaymen

should i throw my ddr3 into le trash and replace it with a ddr4?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqc7Cy

I got a buddy who wants to start a youtube channel, do some photoshop, and use his pc for a few other artsy things. He only plays video games from the ps2/gamecube era, so gaming is not a priority in this at all. Do I need to include a GPU at all? Will GPU acceleration help with his production tasks? Cutting out the gpu will expand the budget a bit to get a nicer IPS monitor with good color accuracy and shit.
How does it look?

>>57300003
>>57300062
That's all really helpful, thanks. I think I'll forget about the 4K and get individual SSD and HDD also.

Is xfx an alright brand for AMD cards?

>>57299927
>he fell for the 1080 meme
fury x has 99.5% of the performance of a 1080 but actually does async compute. All this at less than half the price.

1060 or 480? Which one is better?

>>57300195
If you're upgrading to Skylake yes

>>57300369
Depends on the game. New ones mostly 480

>>57300358
Not that close, also housefire

>>57300276
For emulation it's extremely important to have a high single thread perf / clockspeed. So you should get an unlocked i5 and OC as much as possible

>>57299628
Stupid comment of the day

>>57300418
It actually is that close. The reason why you might see bigger differences is due to shit like gimpworks, not the actual hardware itself. Still, what's the biggest difference you can see without activated memes, 10%? Not even that, I think.

>>57300418
Don't K-series CPUs lack VT-d?

>>57300369
They're basically the same. They're both slightly overkill for 1080p any way. Decide whether you prefer high thermals, medicore engineering, and mediocre drivers, or unethical business practices, shoddy quality control, and bloatware on your desktop.
I just went with a 1060 though cuz muh low temps.

>>57300528
6600K has it
http://ark.intel.com/products/88191/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

>>57300528
not the i7-4790K at least, ive used pci passthrough with a graphics card from debian to windows 7 with that processor
i heard some of the others do, but meh shame on the people dumb enough to buy them

How come it's so fucking hard to find drives that aren't 5400 rpm snails for less than $500? What the fuck. 5 years ago, finding 5400 rpm drives wasn't even easy, now it's all you'll find in HDDs. Fucking SSDjews.

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>>57300502
In Titanfall2 it's not that close even at 4K

Usually more like 20%; rarely they're even

>>57300572
>shoddy quality control
That entirely depends on the manufacturer.

>>57300779
>>57300779
https://www.techpowerup.com/227133/evga-gtx-1070-1080-overheating-issues-company-says-thermal-pads-a-solution

>>57300660
>(((goyGPU)))
Wooooow.........

>>57300924
So? It's one card only, ask Zotac, Palit and others if they have the same issue. This is as stupid as saying because of the Note 7 all Samsung phones will explode.

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Anyone got recommendations of a large cylinder res? I want to fill some empty space so big is good. Multiple opening on top one to end the loop and the other just to fill and stuff. One exit on bottom. Want black and clear. Will be clear fluid with leds in the case providing color. Black/white/silver build.

Where should I look for such a res? Also should I just get all my parts at EK since some of them are coming from there? So they all are guaranteed to match up?

>>57301413
>Also should I just get all my parts at EK since some of them are coming from there?

I mean like threads and fittings matching up.

How should i go about cutting $200ish?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6D4vZ8

>>57301578
use ethernet, that will cut $40. If you are obstinately set on wifi, get the $12 rosewill adapter that gives 100mb/s. get a $40 2x4gb kit of ram to save $5. The rest is pretty trimmed down. The monitor and cpu are taking up giant chunks of your budget already. I don't think you can get a $200 price reduction without going to an i3.

>>57301653
Alright thanks man. Im stuck with wifi as theres no ethernet in the barracks :/

>>57289486
Can anyone help me out on this?