/pcbg/- PC Building General

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So here is current PC.
An anon the other day was helping me with upgrades.
Which one of these is better.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wnhgPs
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BVtp3F

>>57255816
one has an i5, the other an i3.... same GPU, you figure it out.

>>57255837
Well here's the problem, I don't know even know what those really are.

>>57255859
read the links in the OP, especially the bottom one.

>>57255816
Add 4GB 1600MHz RAM ($15)
Upgrade to used 83XX CPU ($100)
Buy cooler unless you get a Wraith with the CPU ($0-30)
Buy 240GB A-DATA SSD ($60)
Get the 6GB 1060 if you don't want to upgrade for a while. ($250)

Sell 7770/50 for $75, 4300 for $50

Total: $325

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Here is my $300 budget A8 APU gaymen build I plan to make in about a month:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cHXVBP

Thoughts?

>>57255928
>7770/50
Meant 7770/90

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>>57255959
Can you really not save up more money than that? That stuff is already old and outdated as fuck.

Alternatively a used second or third generation Intel CPU with a used GPU like a 960 would utterly destroy that APU shit.

>>57255959
Sucks, drop the cooler and get an i3 or wait for the Zen APUs if you need gfx

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>>57255996
>Can you really not save up more money than that?
I actually have 3K in the bank not including my paid off credit card but I don't want to blow more than $300 right now.

>That stuff is already old and outdated as fuck.
Well better than anything else out there especially for playing vydia, I think that iGPU on that APU is pretty underrated.

>Alternatively a used second or third generation Intel CPU with a used GPU like a 960 would utterly destroy that APU shit.
I don't want used parts blowing up my build.

>>57256005
i3 sucks even more though because of the shit iGPU. I don't want to wait for zen desu.

In fact I just play to get an Rx 480 later on next year, turn off the iGPU, and play DX12 games.

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So I bought the stuff in green already. The Titanium Mobo was too good to pass up on.

I already have an SSD that I am keeping from my current machine for the OS, I think I want a Mouse and Keyboard. What do you think so far?

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>>57256076
That's the memest build I have ever seen, lmao

>>57255744
Want a new gaming rig

16 GBs DDR 4 ram
ASUS 1080


and that's all i know...

recommend me a good CPU + mobo combo?

Is it worth while getting an i7 over an i5?

Will be buying this week and offer photo as proof after purchase.

Hell i'll even throw in 10 bucks on paypal for the person that offers best advice/the gear i get.

>>57256064
>I actually have 3K in the bank
Unless you're still under your parents that's a tiny amount of money

>i3 sucks even more though because of the shit iGPU
Yeah, but it can play LoL or whatever indie games you want like Papers Please. The point is that the CPU does not suck, and you actually have an upgrade path

>In fact I just play to get an Rx 480 later on next year
An FM2+ socket mobo / CPU will severely bottleneck anything past a 380 because of PCIe lanes.

tl;dr you're a moron

>>57256064
you're basically throwing $300 out the window for something that can barely play the newest games on low settings when you could get something used for almost the same that would be 2-3 times faster.

and you would obviously get a fucking dedicated gpu with the i3 you tard.

but whatever, your money, i cant stop you.

PS. only the PSU can blow up the rest and that is one part you should not skimp on.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WFQKhq

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>>57256098
I went for White and Black, gotta have the racial tension.

Only thing I am worried about is temps in that case, although I have been assured by multiple friends that it won't be an issue.

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>>57256116
I said I plan to play DX12 games senpai which are supposed to rely on less CPU single thread performance right?

>PCIe lane issues
Can you provide source?

>>57256098
>Define S
>Meme

>>57256076
you can mark things as purchased with the cog wheel to the right.
enjoy your overpriced white themed PC

>>57256112
read the OP

>>57256154
you will have to buy a whole new PC for that and throw away your piece of shit paper weight APU box.

>>57256161
>implying he meant the case

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>>57256161
>>57256176
What is so meme about my build you guys pls respons

>>57256197
overpriced white mobo.

>>57256076
Get the 1070 that's $50 cheaper
Even with more-than-2133MHz ram that motherboard is still too expensive, but it's too late now
Everything else looks decent

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>>57256134
>you're basically throwing $300 out the window for something that can barely play the newest games on low settings
Benchmarks disagree with you.

>when you could get something used for almost the same that would be 2-3 times faster.
I don't want things blowing up my build, how many times do I have to repeat that?

>and you would obviously get a fucking dedicated gpu with the i3 you tard.
That would go over my $300 budget smartass.

>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WFQKhq
>no case
>no SSD
Dam you got me, 10/10 trolling

>>57256076
The WD blacks are apparently loud, you sure you want that over a blue?
Get an SSD too

>>57256248
>720p
>lowest settings
havin a laff here

>>57256112
>gaming
>16 GBs DDR 4 ram
>ASUS 1080
You'll get no help from me

>>57256076
It's fine, get a 2TB HGST/Hitachi HDD

>>57256154
Can't find the exact source I remember (video), I was looking into budget build APUs / Athlons.

DX12 lightens the load on the CPU and uses more cores (up to eight). DX11 already uses four cores

Anyway you'll have absolutely zero upgrade potential with an FM2+ socket, in addition to the bottleneck

>>57256248
If you really want inter grated graphics you should look at AMD (don't) or wait until Kaby Lakes CPUs with Iris integrated graphics come out

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>>57256163
>you will have to buy a whole new PC for that and throw away your piece of shit paper weight APU box.
Will I? I do plan on getting an Rx 480 later on next year to play DX12 games on 1080p high-max settings mind you. Please enlighten me why an A8 with the iGPU turned off and the base set to 3.8GHz + Rx 480 is a bad idea with DX12 games?

Or was the whole "DX12 will more efficiently use multi-core CPU resources or less CPU resources overall" things just a meme?

>>57256248
That's literally a 720p low setting benchmark

>I don't want things blowing up my build
m80

>>57256270
I. Plan. On. Getting. An. Rx 480. Later. Next. Year.

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>>57256212
It came with RAM bruh. It isn't overpriced.

>>57255744
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CmP8HN
Is this build okay?

>>57256284
>Can't find the exact source I remember (video), I was looking into budget build APUs / Athlons.
I see well let me know when you find the source but until then what you said holds no merit for me.

>Anyway you'll have absolutely zero upgrade potential with an FM2+ socket, in addition to the bottleneck
I don't plan on upgrading the CPU though, just the GPU with a dedicated Rx 480 graphics card next year.

>>57256286
Nah, I don't like burning money. I'll stick with AMD.

>>57256248
>integrated graphics
now compare to a dedicated graphics card, you fucking retard
>no case/ssd
just add it then, it will still be several times more powerful than your shitbox APU for only 30% more cost.

>HURR STOB TRELLING ME LELELLELLEE XDDDDDD
KYS, im done, if you dont want to listen, go be a fucking retard somewhere else.

>>57256301
the CPU part of the APU will bottleneck the fuck out of a 480 you stupid fuck and the you will have to upgrade the CPU which will again cost more and still not be as good as the intel counterpart

fuck off retard

>>57256355
>the CPU part of the APU will bottleneck the fuck out of a 480 you stupid fuck
In DX12 games? Do you have a source for that?

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>>57256116
>An FM2+ socket mobo / CPU will severely bottleneck anything past a 380 because of PCIe lanes.
>because of PCIe lanes.
This is a new one

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>>57256329
yeah but i'd get the NH-D14/15 for almost the same price and is better

>>57256369
>implying there are more than a handful of dx12 games atm
>implying they're even optimized
>implying the CPU in the APU is even half as powerful as an i3
>implying you know anything about price/performance
>implying you're not wasting money

>>57256417
>>implying there are more than a handful of dx12 games atm
>>implying they're even optimized
>>implying the CPU in the APU is even half as powerful as an i3
>>implying you know anything about price/performance
>>implying you're not wasting money
Source: my ass.

>>57256392
read up on how APU+mobo+RAM work

>>57256417
>Gears 4
>Battlefield 1
>Not Optimized

Ok. The only meme DX12 game is Ashes of AMDfags and no one worth a shit cares about it anyway.

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>>57256431
>im too retarded to google something so simple as a benchmark
>>>/v/
>>>/leddit/

>>57256343
Do what you want tard

>>57256329
Looks good

>>57256448
read a fucking benchmark, even the 960 beat the 1060 in DX12 for fuck sake

>>57256417
Yeah guys, don't build for DX12 or Vulkan now, just get a new GPU in two years when DX11 is phased out.

>>57256392
lol this.

>>57256469
also the RX 480 did significantly worse in DX12

If the purpose of thermal paste is to improve heat transfer between the CPU and heat sink, why don't they just design the CPU and heat sink as one solid unit?

>>57256460
Your damage control is showing.

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>>57256435
You spewing buzzwords that you don't even fully understand.
Tell me, how does the PCIe lanes from a Bolton FHS relate to dGPU performance and what parts of the CPU/motherboard/chipset/RAM do they involve? Describe them to me.

>>57256484
>also the RX 480 did significantly worse in DX12
Benchmarks don't agree with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtguubFmCwo

>>57256469
I wasn't disagreeing the card was shit, for someone telling me to read things you sure should learn to read.

Bought a 4GB Sapphire RX 480. My motherboard has a PCIEX4 and PCIEX16 slot. Which one should I plug it in?

>>57256586
16. try reading a manual

>retards buying the 1060 with its gimped 192 bit bus
>hasn't been seen in a desktop gaymen card since 2009

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>>57256606
>192bit
>3GB
>10% less CUDA
>driver gimping
>$100 extra for gsync monitors
>goys still buy nvidia

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I can get one (or both) of these PCs as compensation for work for a shitty firm, should I do it? They're obviously heavily discounted.

>Intel Core i7-6700T 2.8GHz Processor
>H170M-Based Micro-ATX Motherboard
>16GB 2400MHz DDR4 Memory
>480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>3TB 5400rpm 3.5" Hard Disk Drive
>nVidia GeForce GTX1060 6GB Video Card
>OEM Micro-ATX Chassis
>CWT GPT 250W Power Supply

$340

>Dual Intel Xeon X5680 3.33GHz Processor
>X58-Based Extended-ATX Motherboard
>48GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory
>Dual 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Dual 2TB 7200rpm 3.5" Hard Disk Drive
>Dual nVidia Titan Black 6GB Video Card
>OEM Chassis
>OEM CWT 1000W Power Supply

$410

>>57256678
get both and take the best from each and sell the rest

>>57256694
this

>>57256678
Second one and sell the Titans

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>>57256493
>telling someone they're retarded for buying shit tier parts when they could spend 30% more for 200-300% better performance
>damage controlling

>>57256678
>used Titan Blacks
>~$360 on ebay
>each
Gee I wonder which one I should get

>>57256785
>>telling someone they're retarded for buying shit tier parts when they could spend 30% more for 200-300% better performance
And 200-300% more explosions in their build.

thanks janitor/mod

>>57256877
that's not how computers work

Should I get an i7-6700K on black friday or wait for AMD Zen? I want 8 threads.

>>57257122
Definitely wait for Zen. The 8-core zen variant will trade blows with the $1,000 i7-5960X for a lower price.

>>57257122
personally i'd wait as kaby lake is also coming around the same time as zen early next year and it could mean significant changes compared to earlier releases as this is the first time amd has a completely new architecture

>>57257147
what about the leaked bench that showed it didnt even beat this generation i7?

>>57257122
>waiting for A Massive Disappointment
Seriously, they always promise way too much and never ever deliver. See >>57257147. It's not happening. We all know it's not happening. It'll be strongly competitive at whatever price point it's at until Intel drops their next line and beats it by pennies. Same as last time, and the time before, and the time before that.

>>57257199
yeah but the thing is it will be another competition for the best deals since both kaby and zen is coming out around the same time.

>>57257165
>>57257199
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-8-core-4-core-cpus-leaked/
retards

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here's my spud:
Athlon II X3 460 (0verclocked to 3.7 ghz, stock cooler, TX3 enroute via the post)
8 gigs DDR3
XFX Radeon 6870HD 2gb
500 gb 2.5" WD Caviar Blue 7200 rpm
500 watt Antec Earthwatts Green PSU
cast-off OEM HP case
Windows 10 Ultimate 64 bit.
i play games at 1360x768 at around medium or higher (my TV is 1080i/720p @32").

>>57256248
An i5 4460s and an R9 280x set me back 280$
And I can do High/Very High 1080p at 50-60fps in GTA V
Spend more, get your dollars worth
That's basically throwing 300$ away for something you can do on an Xbox 360 for 50$

>>57257226
>if we account for the clock speed disparity Zen would outperform the FX 8350 by 98% at the same clock speed. Offering nearly double the perforormance with the same number of cores, at the same clock speed. Which puts it squarely in the territory of Intel’s $1000 8 core i7 6900K and 5960X CPUs.

>IF

>>57257255
TX3 is shit you should have gotten the 212.

>>57257265
That's not good news at all for intel. Anyway we will see soon enough if AMD did something worthwhile in those 4 years of Zen development with Jim Keller (aka certified shit wrecker).

>>57257262
>That's basically throwing 300$ away for something you can do on an Xbox 360 for 50$
Source: my ass.

So I was debating upgrading my gpu from a 380 to a 470. Will this upgrade be bottlenecked by my amd cpu?

>>57257287
based jim keller. i hope amd doesnt do a repeat of history after he left.

>>57257334
compare benchmarks

>>57255744
S-so, i-is it possible to build a potato rig like in OP's pic?

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I'm starting my first ever build, I picked up a sapphire rx 480 (8gb) for $229 today, did I do good? Will be playing at 1080p/60hz. Probably i5 6500 along with it.

What's the minimum wattage PSU I should get for this, and what would I need if I ever decided to get another 480 for crossfire in the future?

>>57257359
>I'm starting my first ever build, I picked up a sapphire rx 480 (8gb) for $229 today, did I do good?
Fuck yeah, non-reference 480 8GB cards are going for like $300 in most places.

>Will be playing at 1080p/60hz. Probably i5 6500 along with it.
It would be better if you waited for Zen desu, it's only a couple of months away.

>What's the minimum wattage PSU I should get for this, and what would I need if I ever decided to get another 480 for crossfire in the future?
430 watt PSU would probably be the minimum. 600w minimum if you wanted to crossfire later on.

>>57257425
>It would be better if you waited for Zen desu

I haven't done any research beyond what's out now, care to give a quick tl;dr on them? I didn't buy anything else yet, just the gpu since it was on sale. I'm planning on getting parts slowly when I can find good deals

>>57257445
see >>57257226

>>57257359
yeah that's nice price for the 8GB version

crossfire is a meme but something like 600W will do it

>>57257285
it's a knock off of the TX3, actually. $20 to my door was hard to resist.

>>57257460
>crossfire is a meme

I know it's not ideal, but I don't have money for something like a 1070 or 1080 at the moment, so it would be nice to have the option to add a second 480 in the future rather than buying a whole new, more powerful card

>>57257487
it's actually better to sell your card and buy a single better one

>>57257464
http://www.overclocking-tv.com/content/reviews/13393/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-fight-hyper-tx3-evo-vs-212-evo/attachment/results/

212 is better

>>57257542
maybe, but i set a budget on this one - parts budget wasn't gonna go past $200 Canadian on this one (low income at the moment due to being unable to work due to advanced arthritis, im awaiting surgery to help a few things), and that included the value for parts that were hand-me-down or salvage. The stock cooler is 'ok' for now, but with the extra fans i added to the case (putting them on a switch for 'game mode' because they sound like a jet engine together), and the cooler i have on the way will work well with all of these fans running together to keep things cool.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z8ZWr7
Is the current PSU I have in my build overkill? PCP says I have a draw of 445 watts.

>>57257695
no but the platinum rating is a bit. go with a gold and you save like $50 and still get a really good PSU

>>57257695
Somewhat, yes. You could get a 550 W one if you want. But it's not a huge deal, you'll be fine with the one you've picked.

>>57257748
he has a K cpu, and with two 1070s he wouldnt have a lot of room to OC

>>57257721
>>57257748
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fgwqqs/seasonic-power-supply-ss650km3
I went with this one. The GPU's cooling system is a little crazy and requires two power cables

>>57257812
Why would he get two 1070? Nigga just get a 1080 if you want one, otherwise wait for 1170.

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Is it worth it to buy or just build a pc?

>>57257812
>2 1070s
What? The AMP! Extreme isn't that good.

>>57257487
By the time you mGPU you'll be able to use pooled memory, so a 4GB card is the way to go. Then you'll have 4+4=8GB

>>57257851
>>57257868
i might have confused him with someone else

>>57257867
totally worth based on the image alone i can totally say it's super fast and not overpriced at all just from looking at it

>>57257886
it doesnt work like that

>>57257947
>it doesnt work like that
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dx12+pooled+memory

>>57257867
do you care about the touch/pen thing, or the all in one form factor?
are you just a lazy shit with a lot of money burning a hole in your pocket?
if not then just build some cheap POS and just make sure you get an ssd and you will be good

>>57257965
not every game is dx12

>>57257970
I care do care for the whole touch and pen for mostly school art projects and content creation

>>57257947
It's a bit overpriced because it from (((Microsoft))) but it's comes the pen and it's a 4000x3000 LCD display

>>57258034
there's better options for drawing

>>57258042
>missing the point by a continent
post the fucking price and specs

>>57258078
>>57258078
>>57255816
>AMD
>27°c
Bullshit

>>57258136
AMD's temp sensors and dogshit at low temps (where it doesn't really matter)
It's not until they get above 40c that they are actually halfway accurate.

>>57258056
Base model

>CPU
Intel i5 skylake quad core processor
>RAM
8gb DDR4
>Graphics
GTX 965M 2GB
>Display
4500x3000 IPS LCD touchscreen

$2999

>>57258048
You know any really?

>>57258202
Any PC with an i5+1070 and a Wacom tablet

>>57258192
The display also has a form of HDR and digitizer which is a big deal compared to competing digitizer screens
The display is amazing and really makes the whole PC, the rest of it is like a nice laptop but nothing that good for a desktop

>>57255816
get i5
get 1060
get ssd
get 16gb of ram

>>57258240
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tyy8HN
This is what I was able to make in a few minutes really

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I'm think of getting this

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-2-Way-DualBIOS-Motherboards-GA-Z170XP-SLI/dp/B012AQGL4A/?tag=logicaincrem-20

but i want to know if there are any known problems with it.

The alternative is this: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-DDR4-Intel-Motherboard-Z170-P/dp/B012VOO3E6/?tag=logicaincrem-20

which is cheaper, but one less motherboard. Any particular issue with this gigabyte or no?

>>57258250
But underpowered specs and possibly bending as well because the larger screen will bend with a weak chassis

>>57256469
Well luckily i have a 960

what processor do I get if I want to run games through a windows VM

>>57258681
1. something that's not an i3.
2. Why are you doing this.

>>57258730
I'm tired of dual booting just for the sake of playing video games and I heard VMs will run at native performance with GPU pass through these days

>>57258733
>I heard VMs will run at native performance with GPU pass through these days
Don't trust people on the internet.

>>57257984
You're a shithead. By the time you need to mGPU everything important will be DX12

>>57258743
well how can I trust you to say that it won't run at almost native performance

>>57258359
One less USB port*

I can get a decent USB-C PCIe card for $20, should I? What can I really use USB C for other than external PCIe and normal USB things?

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>>57255744
Literally nobody can beat my high performance potato

>DL380 G5 (P400 Controller, 2 Ethernet Adapter cards, 1 Fiber adapter card, 1x6GB RAM, 4x146GBx10K SAS HDD) - $120
>2x4GB RAM - $15
>GPU - had laying around
>Monitor - had laying around
>Keyboard & Mouse - $5
>router to act as WNIC - had laying around

How long would this last me
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HwZWr7

Compared to this?
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gMgZ2R

Is it worth the higher investment off the get go? I do have a use case for the i7 as well.

>>57258909
You should pick some sort of median between the two.

Also drio the 1050

>>57255744
>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL (embed)

----------------------------------------------------------
No, i'll install Linux and forgo the spyware, bsod, and shit I don't need.

>>57258892
>Stuff laying around
Doesn't count. At all.

>>57258909
Get the i5 build with a Z170 mobo and 3000MHz RAM so that you can upgrade later

>>57258681
i7

>>57258958
Something like this as a median?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gMgZ2R

Considering the i7-6700k is clocked much higher, how much would the extra $200 for mobo, and cooler cost be worth? Also what does drio mean.

>>57259108
sorry wrong link
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HdWmxY

>>57259105
I am both posts

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>>57259021
>>57258892
yeah get out of here goy

This general is ONLY for brand new, consumer products. either buy something or get out, loser

>>57259122
Unless you plan on rendering you might as well save some money and buy an overclock able i5.

Also drop the 1050, they perform pretty eh and if you need a budget card buy a used one or an rx460.

The mobo you have is fine, no need to go all out. CPU cooler can be had for $28 for a basic cooler master which will serve you just fine, but you can go higher if you want.

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Do you see any problems with my build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HhNs8K
Also got a 200mm fan for front and a couple of splitters for fans

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>>57259252
Also to add on to that I can fit the card in the case already checked. Do you guys use drop method or spread method for thermal paste?

>>57259215
I plan on using blender.

Is this good?
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9Q2jWX
I really only play dota 2, which is the reason I'm getting the gaymin moose and the 144hz monitor anyways. Also want to play GTA V but that's it really, I'm trying to gayme less and less.

>>57258359
Bumpu

>>57259289
Well if you are rendering buy the i7. Also I goofed,i meant to type rx470 not 460

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>>57259252
Everything seems fine to me other than those fans you have picked out. CM fans aren't complete shit, but shit enough that their "blade master" fans will have their bearings start dying within 3 months.

Coming from a guy with a closet FULL of fans from various manufacturers. I currently use pic related. On par with Noctua in quality. Available in 120mm and 140mm for $12/$15. They don't HAVE to be noctua $30 poo fans but Cooler Master fans are garbage usually. Even their sickleflow line

Their jetflo and Silencio fans not included in the shit list. I have one of the PWM silencios on my CPU cooler and its awesome. $32 each though.

>>57259319
Can confirm their sickleflow fans have bearings that nut oil everywhere in under a month.

>>57259285
drop. Spread is redundant as the pressure from a properly installed cooler will spread it for you. Spreading it on your only creates the potential for thin or uncovered spots. A drop about the size of a pea in the center. Or a line about the size of a grain of rice in the center. Been using for years without a problem.

Arctic Silver 5 and IC Diamond are my go to brands. IC diamond lately has been my go to for everything because unlike AS5, it's non-conductable so it can be used on GPUs too.

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>>57259319
Thanks anon, I will use these for now and buy replacements then. Since you responded, what thermal paste application method do you use? Spread or dot in the middle?

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>>57259337
Thanks for the advice I have a tube of arctic silver 5 with me now.

>>57259343
see >>57259337 as that's also me. Been doing that for years on all manners of CPUs and GPUs. IC-Diamond is also great if you untrusting of thermal pads/tape. I've done extensive custom liquid loops and used IC-diamond via drop method on all manners of GPU dies, bare dies as well. That and on RAM modules on GPUs before installing the water block etc. Can't go wrong with it. Where as AS5 you better pray you don't get a single drop anywhere or you'll short out your gear.

Don't even get me started on Mayhem liquid metal.

So I finished getting the parts together for my PC. I have one thing left to get. I need a "Mouse" Pad for my Keyboard and Mouse. I would prefer a solid color, Black. So far I ahve found the SteelSeries XXL Gaming Mouse Pad, any others on the market that are a bit cheaper?

>>57259318
wew $1700

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yd2jWX

Is the power supply enough?

Are the Fractal GP-14's any good? I want long last case fans.

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>>57259387
Well I haven't built a PC in a decade so I will take it slow. I even got naturally anti static neoprene gloves and the bracelet to be sure. Didn't do enough research on AS5 so thanks for the info.

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>>57259393
>$1700

Ow my fucking ass hurts for you Moose man. How the fuck does Canada get the shaft for processors and cards? $400+ for an 8 thread i7. Ow ow ow.

>>57259393
Yep as long as it's ~100 over you should be fine.

Only other thing I can suggest is maybe get a 250gb ssd and a 1tb hdd if you want to cut costs.

>>57259422
damn a whole decade? What are you coming from PC wise? Just take it slow and you'll be fine.

>>57259393
How often will you be using blender and to so what exactly?

>>57259425 has a point about how fucked you lads are. Hyperthreading is useful for rendering but it's value is really dependent on how often you use irlt

>>57259402
Fractal makes decent stuff. If you don't care about looks (i.e. you're stuffing the fans in a windowless R5 case anyway) Poo fans or >>57259319 Cougar Vortex fans will do you fine for half the price. Memes aside, Noctua fans are decent.

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>>57259434
Last PC I built had a Pentium quad so...shitty. been on xbone for a bit and now I have money to get back into it.

>>57259393
the canadian peso life sure is rough

Corsair's lower PSU lines aren't great, and the 450W is cutting it close, but it should work provided you have enough 12V amperage. For that setup I'd want something ~35-40A@12V rated, so consult your documentation there

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>>57259457
ahhh pentium
>TFW used to play WoW on an 800x600 CRT @ 20 fps. Lowest settings physically possible in a non populated area using the onboard iGPU from a prebuilt P4 machine.

Wouldn't go back if you paid me. Good on you though anon. Hope the PC works out. For Shits and giggles here is my piece of shit.

>>57259393
why don't you buy use homie? New standards aside you can score a dual CPU machine from ebay for cheap. Or even a barebones system. Dual Xeon X5650's (24 processing threads). Max out the board with 64-128GB ddr3. If you're rendering a lot, moar coars is moar better.

>>57259450
Nah getting a Windowed Fractal Define S, first ever build and I want it to look decent.

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>>57259489
Nice rig man.
>TFW you thought you were a badass with a ViewSonic CRT on that 1600x1200 resolution...but you were wrong.

>>57259489
>1kw PSU

negro what are you doing

>>57259523
I used to have 2 r9 290X BIOS modded for LN2. Was running them 1400mhz @ 1.4v. Each GPU pulled close to 400 Watts at the wall under stress test. Mix that with an FX-9370 @ 5.5ghz using 1.65v. Water Pump, 14 fans, dedicated PWM controller for fans etc.

That and I got that top tier gold rated 1KW PSU for pennies.
>Bought Corsair CX trash when it first came out. CX600. Failed Powering 1 card and 1 CPU at stock $100
>Replaced with CX750M. Failed 2 weeks in with same problem. $165
>Cooler Master 1KW Gold cert fully modular, 5 year warranty etc on sale for $130.

Had this power supply for 6 years now.

>>57259425
but dude were gonna get LE ebin legal weed :--DD

its all worth having a garbage currency in the end

>>57259430
I've got a 300gb HDD lying around that I will use as well. I just feel like 500 gb will not be enough and its only extra $80 and will even out in the long run. It would be my boot drive.

>>57259445
I will be making a bunch of models, probably not something super intense so that is why I am thinking the i5 is enough. However I will also be doing a w10 vm for GTA V trying out the GPU passthrough stuff and I really don't know if 4 logical cores is enough. Could always dual boot but its not worth it in the case of only gayming. I also fucking hate dual booting.

>>57259462
it says its [email protected], going for 550 or 650 is an extra ~$50.

>>57259489
can't find those good deals in Leafland and shipping is shit from the USA as well as our current exchange rate. Also can't find anything used that isn't already built, I really want the parts to be mine.

wew all these yous.

Help me decide between i5k and i7k then.

>>57259544
aight fair enough

Retards love putting those monsters into standard desktops, so I always balk when I see one

>>57259545
>it says its [email protected], going for 550 or 650 is an extra ~$50.

The 450 will be fine.

>>57259545
>Help me decide between i5k and i7k then.

i7 hands down for rendering. Clock it as high as safely possible to make up for lack of cores. Whatever program you use to render, I sincerely hope it supports OpenCL or Cuda acceleration because I use Sony Studio Movie Suite (Poor mans sony vegas) and it only uses CPU threads. As long as 10 minute renders for a 3 minute video output.

Is Asus pro gaming good for an entry level gaming rig? Is there a reason for me to not buy it? I'm Saving most for an Intel 6700k and 1070 gpu

>>57259600
Are you talking about a Mobo?

>>57259593
>i7
>clock it high for lack of cores

wat

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>>57259600
its fine if you can stand GAMING slapped on the southbridge heatsink. Just another generic red/black themed motherboard. Caters to the exact type of people who buy it. Also REALLY depends on how much you're getting it for. I got the ASUS ROG ranger for $180 when the Pro Gamer board was $150. For $30 (pennies if you consider how important the board is and how long you'll be keeping it) it was worth getting the better board.

Really wish asus would bring more styling from the WS Series boards to consumer stuff. I mean just look at this bad motherfucker.

>>57259622
what is confusing about this?

A 6700k is inferior to a (hexa|octa|deca|dodeca)core in this application. He is recommending OCing to help compensate for that

>>57259619
Yeah

>>57259600
oh and I forgot to mention in >>57259636

The VRMs are of lesser quality, there are less VRMs overall, the heatsink covering the VRMs is less efficient. Also although the BIOS controlling that board looks a lot like the ROG BIOS, you're missing a dedicated LLC controller and overall your potential for overclocking and underclocking headroom might be reduced due to the motherboard throttling at the VRMs.

Not a huge deal though. I got my 6700k still stock in my ranger but managed to still be prime95 stable with only 1.050v compared to the 1.2v the chip defaults to.

what's a good 1440p 60Hz monitor at a decent size?

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>>57259677
>>57259677
Great monitor.

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>>57259653
desu I would go for this instead

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/9YH48d/msi-motherboard-z170axpowergamingtitaniumedition

Currently has a deal where you get 16gb of some decent corsair shit, saves you a bit of money overall.

>>57259636
The Asus z170 pro gaming is for sale for 144$ after converting my currency

>>57259638
yeah but were talking about the z170 i5 and the i7 not the x99 stuff.

http://blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks
I guess the i7 does it in just 100 seconds less at stock speeds.

Though I found this:
https://www.blender.org/manual/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html
The GPU does faster rendering for the program I would be using.
http://blenchmark.com/gpu-benchmarks

I think it would be best to go for an 4.0GHz OC i5 and a decent GPU like a 1060 6gb which is only a couple seconds slower than a much more expensive 1070.

>>57259713
that's not terrible. About average considering the ROG stuff seems to start at $200 now. Go ahead. Haven't heard anything bad about the board. Seems to be the perfect board for those looking for standard no frills use. Seen reviews of people hitting 4.5ghz running stock voltage and settings on their 6700k's.

Also Asus board in general seem to have an issue running top speed RAM. My Ranger board REFUSED to run ram that was 4000mhz out of the box. Even turning it down to 3200mhz (max officially supported ram speed) would refuse to post. Ended up just getting 32GB 2400mhz because the extra speed was nothing more than ball grabbing rights for me anyway.

>>57259689
32 inches is big, I hadn't considered something that size
Due to space I'm using a TV as my monitor because I have to sit further away, I was planning on getting a monitor once I moved and had a desk, but this could work for both situations
i was also expecting closer to 300 but 400 isn't too bad if it's really dank

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>>57259748
pic related is my setup to give a good idea of it's size. I sit about 1.5 feet away from it. Probably closer than I should but eh.

Had this thing since it hit the market for $650 and don't regret it a bit.

I know this is a Buttlestation threat, but only pic I got of my desk.

>>57259759
After looking around, I like it
It's not IPS but it's also not TN, and IPS 1440p monitors that size start costing a lot more
You think it'll go below $400 on Black Friday or should I just buy it?

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>>57259759
You think this would power a display like that? It's just 60Hz right

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Hy8HN
Am i doing it right or just wasting money?

I just want to play games

>>57259997
Could save some dollars by dropping down to B150 motherboard, but it's not a big deal. Otherwise it looks very good.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VbJBr7

On a scale of one to potato, how fucking retarded is this build?

Seriously though, anywhere I could be saving money or making better choices?

>>57260183
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTKnGf

It's the same thing.

>>57260311
thanks.. i figured anything with "pro gaming" in the title was probably not the most cost-efficient motherboard out there

>>57259997
Good, but you can save money, see: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YkNs8K

GTX1060 or RX480 8G?

>>57255744
nice bread machine you got there, it would be a shame if somebody took a byte out of it

>>57260344
Well bazooka plus is in no way better, your mistake was picking a z170 that offers no benefit for a non-overclockable 6500. Even if it were a overclockable 6600k there would still have been better choices.

>>57260733
so what are the better choices?

>>57260752
I said it is in no way better as far as the naming is concerned. It's a top tier choice for what i imagine you're looking for.

212X or Cryorig H7 if I don't want to take the motherboard out? Both are the same price, H7 seems easier to install

>>57260769
Ah i see. is this looking better?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjwDzM

>>57260816
im assuming i could use cheaper PSU, but would it be worth buying one thats a but overkill at the moment for future upgrades?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JrNx9W

shit on my soon to be build

Reposting from previous thread:

Will Noctua NH-U14S cooler fit in Corsair 200R case?

I mean, one review claims that max size for cooler is 160mm for this case, while tech spec on Corsair site claims 165mm. NH-U14S have 165mm according to producer site.

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Purpose of PC is for general internet browsing and listening to music
Budget is around $300NZ
From New Zealand

I was interested to see what the cheapest possible PC I could build using parts available from Pricespy, and I thought if I put it together then I could upgrade it over time like Theseus' Ship.

I don't do gaming, so

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>>57260919
Image for the extra lazy fucks

>>57260835
PSU is the one part where you should never cheap out. That said, there isn't much point getting overkill PSU, either. 450W is enough unless you're planning to get a 250W GPU(or a better GPU and x99 135W CPU), 550W is enough for pretty much any single-GPU system and there isn't any point going much higher unless you're planning a multi-card setup.

Which would be better buy - Noctua NH-U12S or Silverstone Argon AR03?

Noctua cost more, but tests suggest similar performance and noise. I dont understand the difference in price, then. What Im missing?

>>57260967
>>57260919
Get a i5-6600 you nigger.

>>57261331
The 6600(non-k) is literally pointless CPU there's almost never a reason to get.

>>57261296
Noctua is just top notch quality and they know it, therefore they charge you more. Other cooling options are just as good.
The only thing Noctua realy does better than others is the fan quality and coolers like NH-D14/15 or NH-U14S, those literally blow the competition away.
See if you can find a cheap be quiet! or Scythe, they are also very good and often also very cheap.

>>57260835
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGBFXH

>>57261347
Good point, get at at least a 6500 then.

>>57261348

They are rather rare in shops in my country, it is always either Coolermaster or SilentiumPC, or top Noctua or Corsair water ones.

I wish I could get good cooler for cheap, but I went cheap with SilentiumPC Fera 3 (which was supposed to be as good as CM 212 Evo or even better), based on opinion of shop clerk, but 85C on i7-6700k during playing Guild Wars 2 says otherwise. No, paste spread evenly.

>>57261539
>Coolermaster
Try to get a NH-U14S then, they usually go for 60-70 $/€. This HSF is one of the best if not the best single fan standard tower cooler on the market.

>>57260957
newegg/amazon ships to NZ?

Is NZ dollar same as US dollar?

If not, then find a better site that matches local prices.

>>57261615

U14S pose a problem - I dont know, if it will fit in my case, as I asked at >>57260940

U12S have 158mm, which will fit without problems, but Im worried if 165mm would fit.

Differences between temps of U12S and U14S, according to Toms Hardware, are around 3C under max load with 110 TDP Haskell-E CPU (some 6 core i7 with hyperthreading).

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>>57260183
Using Jet.com and coupon either SHOP15 or SHOP10

$750. Plus you can OC your CPU.

>>57261861
>I dont know, if it will fit in my case
Then go to Noctua and Corsair websites and check the manuals. If not, get the U12S.

I have a question for everyone: I just raised some money for my new build, atm I have a i5 3570k and a 7970(both OCed), which I'm going to sell the next week(the whole pc), I have almost 1800£.
As Amd-fag, I would wait for january for zen/vega 10,but I don't know if I can resist 2 months without something to do( I'm working on it,like a small part time job).
Should I wait for zen/vega or buy everything during the blackfriday/cybermonday?

>>57261919
>1800 GBP
>Zen
Why the fuck would you do this? Zen won't come anywhere near a i5-6600K or i7-6700K.. get either now. Vega... i doubt Vega will be better than the 1080 which is within your budget.
Get i7-6700K + 1080 now.

>>57261908

>Then go to Noctua and Corsair websites and check the manuals.

I did and thats what I said in my post I linked - Corsair official site says that max size for cooler for 200R is 165mm, while reviews claims that it is 160mm instead. NH-U14S have 165mm, 12S - 158mm.

Thats why I asked here.

It would be pretty stupid to buy a cooler and then realize that it wont fit in your case, right?

>>57261952
Then i'm blind. If it says 165 go for the U12S, you have to count in the mobo and stand-offs. How much is the Corsair 200R where you live? If you haven't bought it, can you switch to something like an R5 or Nanoxia DS3?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Crrwqk
Anything I should change before I buy?

>>57261996
Get a better mobo: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/32m7Cy
The rest is perfect.

>>57261988

I already bought 200R. As for price, it is rather expensive compared to cases I used to buy (250 PLN, or 55 EUR, if you wish). If you are curious, Fractal Design Define R5 is really expensive here (450 PLN or 100 EUR) and Nanoxia DS3 is not available.

>If it says 165 go for the U12S

Probably will then. Thanks.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cC4s8K

This is what I'm working with atm

Anyone have any recommendations for me? This is my first build. I definitely feel like this is too much.

The primary function is running taxing games/mods at full quality

>>57261996
Jet.com has cheaper 6600k for $202 with SHOP15 coupon.


Also has the Zotac 1070 for $350 I believe with SHOP15 coupon

Guys I am torn between a 1080 HoF or a 1080 premium Gamerock from palit.Does anyone know which one has the best temps/performance?

>>57262077
100€ for the R5 is not cheap but it is acceptable. Which site do you buy from, or which polish sites / prise comparison tools are good?
I'm from Germany but half polish and need a new PC, maybe there are some parts cheaper there and i can get them on vacation.

>>57262083
Jet.com i5-6500 for $166 with SHOP15 coupon.

$30 saving

>>57262112
Get either Palit SuperJetstream or Zotac AMP! Edition, both are excellent cards with great performance.

>>57262083
2800 RAM on H110, are you retarded?

I currently have :

i7 960
12 GB DDR3 ram
770GTX

running Windows 7 on a 128 SSD with a separate 1TB for storage

Bought it from a friend who was a graphic designer so he used it for a lot of photoshop illustrator etc.

Would I be able to run games if I swap the 770 for a 1070/1080GTX or should get new a new CPU and mobo too?

>>57262083
Get cheaper 2133 Mhz ram

ES Hard drives = Energy Saver, don't expect performance.

>>57262145
I think the fag is trying to do a white build,otherwise I would not understand why he is so specifical.If he does not mind the blue on the gamerock he should be Gucci.

>>57262116

I buy from local shops (they usually order from same sources)mostly, they sometimes have slightly better prices and availability (for example, RX480 Nitro+ was always "out of stock" in internet shops and going for 1400 PLN, when I was hunting around said shops, one's wholesaler had 50 units in stock and 1350 PLN price).

For comparing prices, I use ceneo.pl, then look around shops sites directly, because such sites not always shows everything.

>>57262166
Mobo uprade then? Sorry, I'm pretty new to all this senpai

>>57262257
Your mobo choice is limited to 2133 Mhz

If you want higher end ram, go for mobo that supports higher mobo.

I dug up my first very own computer the other day. I bought it when my dad decided changing the background on his $2500 Tandy running Windows 3.1 messed it up.

Check out these fine specs.
> Intel Celeron D 340 @ 2.9 ghz
> Gigabyte geforce 7200
> 512 mb

I want to put Linux on it and give it to my 4 year old for games. Maybe she wont grow up to be completely useless. I was thinking of emulating a selection of DOS games, and anything else interesting that it will run under wine or some shit.
Anyone have any advice or ideas?

Trying to get a video card for my brothers computer. He plays at 1600x900 and is looking for Medium graphics settings @60fps

1050ti or 460 /pcbg/?

Common sense and reading some reviews/GPU boss make it seem like 1050ti is the obvious investment, but a lot of people are telling me to go 460 and I cant tell if they are just AMD fanboys

>>57262257
That's why you should read the OP and manuals, it's everythig there..

>>57262254
Ok thanks.

>>57262409
>givig a 4y old a computer for games
This is retarded. I hope you teach him how tp use it and introduce him into the world of tech.

>>57262588
1050, dont buy an old 460.

>>57262409
Buy a cheap 4GB stick of RAM you jew

>>57262588
The problem with 1050ti is that 470 isn't that much more expensive, but it is MUCH better value for the money.

>>57262588
Seconding this >>57263232

If you're getting 1050ti, then its bad choice considering 470 is a tier above for extra small change.

>>57263232
>>57263264
Are you guys talking about this 470 for $170?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814150781

If so I will have to give it a good look

>>57263411
Yeah, 470s are roughly 30-40% better in DX11 titles, not to mention in DX12, this number will go up even more to 60% or so.

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>>57263232
>>57263264
>shilling for Poolaris
The 1050 Ti gets close enough to the 470's performance that the extra $30-60 is not worth paying for. The 1050 Ti is the better dollar-to-performance card you can buy and it can run on any pre-built or shitty PSU PC.

>>57263552
>shilling for nvidia
Go sell your cherrypicked benchmarks elsewhere, pajeet.

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>>57263627
>defending poolaris
It's funny that the Pajeets have the nerve to call out other people as their own kind as if it were some kind of insult. They literally agree that poo-in-loos are the worst scum on the face of the planet.

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>>57263692
There is no excuse for this sort of performance for the price bracket.

And how much larger is a Poolaris 10 die versus a GP107?

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>>57263713
And the final nail in Poolaris' coffin
Look at the power consumption figures across the board.

You dun fucked up, Pajeet. Take your shitty turd of a graphics cards and leave it on the streets like you usually do.

>>57263727
Kill yourself Nvidiashill.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti,4787-4.html

>>57263754
>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti,4787-4.html
>AMD sponsored games
Nice try Poojeet

>>57263754
>Of course, the 470’s advantage is exaggerated given Asus’ aggressive overclock compared to our old Sapphire board

Hmm???

>>57263754
>>57263727
>>57263713
>>57263692
>>57263552
>>57263521
>>57263232

>Thinking any of this matters for a person playing 1600x900 (720p) and in medium

Still kinda going back and forth in my head about whether to get a 1060 or an RX480. They're both kinda close in price and it looks like their performance in games is very close to the point they themselves go back and forth on which one is better for certain games.

But which company should I go with though? I can only remember hearing to stay away from Msi because of faulty heatsinks or something.

>>57262906
Well that was the idea, I'd rather her learn about tech from something old that may have issues and limitations for her to figure out, than be introduced to computers by a fucking smartphone.

>>57263953
Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Gainward and EVGA are all good brands. Especially the first three. I'd recommend Asus Strix if it isn't too expensive, it runs quiet and cool.

>I can only remember hearing to stay away from Msi because of faulty heatsinks or something.
That's just some random rubbish.All brands do sometimes ship defective cards, that's just how this business works. RMA them and wait for another one to be delivered. MSI's Gaming X cards are pretty good, although a bit expensive too,

>>57263953

I had the same problem few weeks ago, in the end bought Sapphire Nitro+ version fo RX480 instead of 1060, because of said similar performance, a bit more VRAM and because Nvidia pissed me off enough in the past with their drivers (I had enough of doing research around the net about which is the latest stable version for my card, because Nvidia shit on all models not being the newest and both my GTX 660 and previously GTX 460 were experiencing problems with latest drivers - GTX460 in form of frequent BSODs, some people reported even physical damage to their cards). With AMD at least I can saftely update from time to time.

>>57264214
I've had good experience with Asus, so I might try them like you said.
>>57264273
Jeezus, has it really gotten that bad with Nvidia?

>>57263953
>1060
Palit (Super) Jetstream
Zotac AMP!
>480
Sapphire NITRO+ OC
XFX GTR

>>57264720

>Jeezus, has it really gotten that bad with Nvidia?

I might just had been unlucky.

But still, as owner of GTX660 and Windows 7, I had to avoid any newer updates than 362.0, because of possible problems a lot of people were reporting on their own forums.

As owner of 1060, you could avoid this problem... for a time, until they would release 2060 or something.

As for Brands, in case of RX480, MSI reused the same cooling solution as with Nvidia cards, so, while being really quiet, it doesnt use its full potential at all (because it was designed with GTX in mind, not RX).

Sapphire is a company that specialize with AMD cards, at the other hand.

As for temperatures and noise, I wouldnt call my Nitro+ too noisy, but it can be heard sometimes. As for temperatures, it does start at 25C at idle, then slowly rise to 50C and stays around that. When playing video games, it never went above 65C so far, but according to Sapphire, 75C is it normal working temperature.

Once, however, it went 78C out of studden on idle, while Windows 7 disabled Aero - I had no idea what was going on, so I restarted PC. It never happened again, but still, made me worry. At the other hand, it could be related to how I simply ran sysprep on 6 years old Windows 7 installation and moved to new PC, instead of making clean install.

Just wanted to be honest.

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Hey guys, how many times can you split a fan header? I would like to put 4 into 2 splitters into one splitter on one fan header. Is there a better solution? Also, will I need to up the voltage in the bios?
Thanks

Would anyone be interested in a /pcbg/ Discord? I figure it would be pretty cool to have a community of build enthusiasts.

Can someone recommend a 2TB secondary hard drive to be used only for media? Ideally 5400rpm as I don't need the speed.

>>57265371
Alright cool. I'll keep that in mind.

Now I just need to make a decision on a mid tower. Something that can hold a big cpu fan if I ever decide to get one.

>>57265932
I'm considering a WD Blue drive, I don't like the reliability concerns with the Greens' powering off and on mechanism.

>>57266041

Zalman Z11?

>>57265932
just get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UM3102206

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I was putting away my spare components and realized I could just make another PC.
I need a cooler, ram and a psu.
The corsair in there is just for sizing, it's deadskis

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>>57266977
Well that's the wrong pic

Biostar H81 Micro Atx board, Pentium G3260 and a Rx460
Gonna put another 80mm as an intake on the PSU side, and just vent for intake on the CPU side

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>>57266717
That's a nice case, Zalman makes nice cases
Even my 30$ T1 is dank, holds a 308mm 280x somehow

>>57263953
Zotac for Nvidia
Sapphire for AMD

Always.

>>57264214
MSI uses their nvidia board heatsinks for their AMD cards, inefficiency
Also there were many brands that don't properly cool the VRMs and ram, I think MSI was one of those brand with weak VRM cooling

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I'm getting 16GB, but what is the sweet spot for RAM speeds now, and what CAS latency to get it at?
My computer will be used for vidya, photoshop, VMs, and maybe I'll fuck around in a DAW from time to time.

>>57266717
That looks like a good one. I was also looking at the Enthoo Pro M.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/n97yxY

Should I just go for the 6600k + cm212? Would actually rather get the cryorig H7 but they aren't sold in leafland.

Also help me decide between 1050ti, RX 470 and 1060 3gb/6gb or 480. Looking for best performance per dollar.

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TN or IPS for 1080p gayman?

>>57268706
Keep current CPU and get a 4GB 480

>>57261771
>Is NZ dollar same as US dollar?

lol no

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My computer's been shitting the bed more and more (BSOD's at least 5x a week, if not more) over the last few months and I think I'm finally gonna upgrade it after 5 years. I'm trying to save as much money as possible so I'm keeping my HDD/PSU/Case for sure, but I also want to keep my CPU because i5 2500k's are fucking GOAT.
Any recommendations for an 1155 mobo that will support ddr4/ a card like a 1060 or something similar?

>>57268993
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/P9njWX

Like this? Is cannonlake going to be able to used on z170?

>>57269049
Can't get DDR4 with 2500K. Any Z mobo will handle a 1060

>>57269104
>Is cannonlake going to be able to used on z170?
No, but Kaby Lake will be on 1151. You can get a (cheap for various reasons) unlocked i7 later if need be, otherwise you just get the boost from the 3000MHz RAM until you buy new platfrom

Yes the build is fine

>>57269104
But get the 550W EVGA Bronze PSU

Buying a gigabyte x79 mobo, 4x4gb ddr3 1600 mhz, i7 3820 with a 240mm Asetek 510LC for 150. Should I just try and resell or should I try to make a still High end, budget gaming PC. Which stands for more profit.

>>57269104
That's what I was planning to do with kaby lake.

>>57269272
Can't find it on pcpartpicker, only 650W and I want at least semi modular for nicer cable management.

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Decent build for the price? I was gifted the monitor and GPU. Am I making any big errors?

Is it safe to just buy from pcpartpicker or should I shop around to make sure they're giving me the best price?

What PSU should I buy? i3-6100 + GTX 1050 Ti

>>57269349
R/hardwareswap
Been using it for a while. Only reason I use Reddit and it's a pretty organized maintained community of people buying and selling computer parts.

>>57269378
>>57269342
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012
Sry, meant 500W

>>57269378
Wait til the prices drop for a 1050Ti with a six pin PCIe power connector. If you get one that's only powered by mobo no overclocking for you

>>57269349
Looks decent but drop to a B150 mobo or get a Z170; if Z170 get 3000MHz RAM

>>57269305
Just keep that and add a graphics card and PSU if need be

>>57269452
how good is the cable management on that PSU?

>>57269378
Do you want to upgrade later? Something 500 or 550w. Content with low power (electricity) equipment get like a 420w unit.
Evga broznze shit is pretty decent. Seasonic s12ii is my personal choice.

>>57269496
Non modular, so you'll have a few unused cables.

>>57269452
>Looks decent but drop to a B150 mobo

it's definitely cheaper. I'll look into it thanks

am i allowed to ask about gaming laptops in this general?

https://www.amazon.com/GL551JW-DS71-15-6-Inch-Gaming-Laptop-GTX960M/dp/B00T7XRH2A

I just want to know how good this is . i can buy it cheaply from a friend

>>57269962
>960M
IIRC, 960M is on par with a 950 desktop GPU, or am I wrong?

>>57269962
>laptop
>gayman

Also GTX 960M (mobile) vs GTX 960 (regular) here
>http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-960/m27242vs3165

Don't let that "960" name fool you, its much weaker than regular desktop 960. However if you can find one for decent price, it might be worth it.

>>57270061
my friend says i can buy it from him for $300

>>57270090
Shit man, that's actually a good deal.

I'd take it, depending on how long he's used it and whether the system has been cleaned out/refreshed.

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Any suggestion?

>>57270109
it seemed pretty clean last time i saw it. Could i play something like doom on high on it?

>>57270164
>High

Eh, not sure man.
Considering it's a mobile processor, id try medium for kicks.

>>57270223
thats good enough for me.

>>57255744

Current browsen/gaymen/main PC build:
Fractal Design Define R2 XL
Samsung 850 Pro 512GB
WD Black 1TB
WD Blue 640GB (From original/babby's first build)
HGST NAS 4TB
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P
16GB GSkill DDR3 1600 RAM
AMD 8350 Vishera OC to 4.5GHz
Cryorig R1 Ultimate cooler w/dual 140mm Noctua Industrial PPC 3000 RPM fans
Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 270X Vapor X
Powered by EVGA Supernova 1000 P2
Windows 10

Planning on overhauling once Vega/Zen drop, so I've started buying components preliminarily like the PSU, CPU cooler, and my SSD that I can use now hence why my PSU used to be a Corsair CX750M
Was planning on whatever their flagship gaymen processor is, new board, new DDR4 RAM, and dual RX 490 in Xfire. Hoping my 1000W should cut it.

Once overhauled I'm dropping all those parts into a beige case and buying a smaller PSU and cheaper HDD and using those bits as a sleeper/LAN party build.

>Emulator PC/LAN party TF2 Prop Hunt/File Server
>Was also babby's first build, changed very little
Xion Onyx Green
Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3
WD Blue 640GB (new)
8GB DDR2 667 RAM GSkill
Stock CPU Cooler
AMD Phenom II X4 940 3.0GHz Quad Core
ATI Radeon HD4850
Powered by a Coolmax 600W PSU
Windows 7
Also a lot of green UV reactive cable sheathing and a pair of UV Cold Cathode tubes, and tons of ricey LEDs. I re-built it a while ago in the spirit of a 2008-style "cool computer" with the big side window, cold cathodes, LED lights, all that jazz. I'm pretty fond of it.

Anyone interested in pics of either? nobody probably gives a shit.

>>57270243
A good upgrade for the system would be a nice cheap SSD. That will give that system a boost in speed.

>>57269104
>Is cannonlake going to be able to used on z170?
Very unlikely. Kaby Lake will, but i think Intel will jew you with Cannon Lake. Therefore drop to B150 if you don't want Kaby Lake.

>>57270408
>Therefore drop to B150
Not necessarily true, considering he could get an unlocked i7 later and have a great CPU if he sticks with the Z170.

>>57270115
Look at a cheaper case. Maybe the new Phanteks P400? Roughly half the price and looks decent (youtube for reviews)

Also upgrade the SSD to something bit bigger with the money saved?

>https://www.amazon.co.uk//dp/B01IAGSD68/

>>57270115
>overpriced case
>overpriced mobo
There you go..

>>57256639
Gentleman, no need for the bashing. Raw specs don't highlight performance, performance results highlight performance.

Cheers: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

>>57270451
Sure, you could buy a (used) Skylake or Kaby Lake i7 later, but considering he asked about Cannon Lake i think B150 is the best option.
Personally i'm waiting for Zen to get a hopefully cheap quad/octacore for work and occasional gaming (Skyrim, TW:Shogun II, LoL, WoT, .. ) and get a strong Cannon Lake after i finished college.

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>>57255744
I wanted a build that I won't have to upgrade for a few years at least.
How'd I do?

>>57270480
I already got the case( bought during the prime day)

>>57270527
Why overpriced mobo

>>57270764
Cpu cooler is shit, NEX power supplies have mixed reviews, 750w is overkill anyway. If you are gaming only, you absolutely do not need 32gb ram. Games are just barely starting to get to using 8gb. Ram is probably the easiest part to install, do just get 2x8gb for now, install another 2x8gb later if you need to.

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Pic related is my current PC specs. It was my first build a few years ago and still runs fine, but I am starting to itch for an upgrade and want to build a new one from scratch to fix some rookie errors I'm unhappy with on my current PC.

Here is my part picker list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TKtrcc

Can I get some feedback on it? Areas I can improve or save money for the same performance?

I play some high end graphical games but don't really plan on overclocking. The monitor I didn't put much time into choosing. Should I upgrade from 1080p? Would this build run 1440 ok?

Thanks in advance for feedback!

Anyone got any good guys for painting a new case? I want a Modern White not a Black.

>>57270115
Be careful with your case selection, or cooler selection. I have a Cryorig R1 Ultimate inside of a Fractal Define R2 XL and there is about 1.5 cm clearance to the side panel on my board.

Make sure it's wide enough. Anything slimmer than a Define R2 XL is probably going to be pretty close or not fit at all. So your case MAY be fine but just do some looking around to make sure others have done it or confirm those measurements sbubby.

What is the furthest (GPU and CPU wise) I can go with AM3+?

>>57271593
Well, I'll check everything before purchasing them, but it should fit.

Another question: is worth buying a aircooler instead a liquidcooler? some people recommended me this one(or the noctua) instead the corsair h100/110 because a AIO is not worth the money,can someone confirm that?

>>57271422
>((((((gaming)))))) hardware

>>57271768
''Gaming'', yeah, but still better than Asus Maximus VIII hero,same price and less possibilities to oc properly,with more stability.

Can you suggest one good motherboard ?

>>57271434
No reason at all to upgrade your base platform, but the graphics card sucks at this point. You'd see no improvement at all going from the Haswell i5 to the Skylake i5.

All you need is a current gen graphics card (1060 or 1070) and a bigger SSD and you're set. Keep the OS on your 120GB and put all your games on a 240GB or 500GB.

If you really want to do 4K you should wait for 1080Ti and spend your money there and on a good monitor. You can always sell your monitor down the road, but you're really going to want Freesync (AMD) or Gsync (Nvidia), HDR, and high Hz. HDR 4K isn't even produced if I'm not mistaken.

Good 4K really isn't here yet.

>>57271914
ASRock OC Formula
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD5
Asus Z170-Deluxe

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>>57271628
8350 and probably any graphics card. The bottleneck is pretty much gone (for its price point) in new games

>>57272228
so an 8350 and a 10X0 card would be fine for the next 2-3 years?

>>57272274
Yes, depending on your res/Hz I'd get a 6GB 1060