/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>57200493
Fostex HP-A3 for HD600s, yes no? anyone heard of any real issues(besides fixed 24bit/96khz) with it?

>>57200493
Are there any cheaper alternatives to HM5 pads?
I'm being a jew here.

Needs to ship to Australia/Worldwide too

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X2=Life

>>57200600
They really are nice for movies.

>Budget
$50
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Around Ear or Straight Down
Pref around but either will do
>Comfort level
I have a spare pair of Comply T400's though I wouldn't mind using larger silicone tips.
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy/ V shaped with neutral/slightly forward mids (Bass>Treble)
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Ink'd
JVC HAFX40
VE Monk+

This is probably one of the more recurring questions, so excuse me. My old portapros just ripped. I'm not very picky and they always worked well for me, do i get a new pair or are there better alternatives with a similar pricetag? It's for listening to music and podcasts on my phone btw

>>57200622
Vsonic GR02 Bass edition
Really nice bassy IEM

>Budget
$100
>Location
Central europe
>Source
Phone, FiiO E7
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear, on-ear
>Open or closed
Closed, semi open
>Preferred tonal balance
Punchy bass, rather boosted treble
>Past headphones
Koss Porta Pro (never again)
Sennheiser HD201
RHA MA350

Thinking about AKG Y50 haven't heard them yet though, any experience or alternatives?

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Have I fucked up?

>>57200513
Haven't heard any issues. It'll easily drive the HD 600.

>>57200646
Sennheiser PX 100-ii is one option but there's nothing clearly better than PortaPro in that price point.

>>57200860
MDR-7056 if over ear closed is fine.

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>>57200928
>friends

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>Budget
$50-$150, ideally under $100 but if $50 gets me some extra quality then so be it.
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung Galaxy Note 5, Aune T1 Mk2 amp/dac connected to PC
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The more comfortable the better, however, I don't intend on taking these IEM's on jogs or any sports activities.
>Preferred tonal balance
Somewhat bassy. Not to the point where it drowns out everything else, but some extra bump would be appreciated, but mention some basshead IEM's if you got 'em
>Past headphones
Beyerdynamic DT880's (600ohm), Massdrop x AKG K7XX, JVC HA-SZ2000 (This shit was suuuuper heavy on my head), Audio Technica M50x (using currently with mixed feelings) Velodyne vLeve (They were like $20 and figured why the hell not. Super light = plus!)

Reposting this from other thread for another shot at getting recommendations. Kudo's to you fellow anons.

...Anonymous
10/22/16(Sat)20:56:29 No.57193148
>Budget
Roughly the £100 mark, bit above or below is fine

>Location
England, probably would order from Amazon if not from the retailer’s site

>Source
Will be generally used with my laptop but occasionally with my phone

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Would prefer as noise cancelling as possible so closed

>Comfort level
Comfort can take a rather large hit for sound quality but will be wearing them for hours at a time

>Preferred tonal balance
Bass, bass and more bass, really wanna feel that kick

>Past headphones
Current set, if I remember correctly: skull candy paul frank Hesh
They’re alright, comfy for prolonged use up to a point, the sound quality is average but they’re getting old now so looking to upgrade, specifically looking to cure that basshead hunger

Anyone acc wanna help this time lads

what's a headphone for
>covering a baby crying in an airplane
>watching some movie on my laptop
>listening music / audio book on my daily commute (walking and train).

I was thinking of getting a entry / mid range Bose.

I also wear glasses and my previous cheapo headphones pressed the branches of the glasses hard against my skull.

>>57201726
Get IEMs. They are just as good and better than ANC headphones in terms of noise isolation and sound quality.
Namely, an Etymotic in your budget.

>>57200584
You mean even cheaper than these?

http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-hm5-thick-memory-foam-earpad-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones-1pc

>>57200493

That's not Maki

>>57200584
SRH840 pads?

>>57201773
Maki a shit.

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>>57201773
The OP always needs more lesbians.

I'm thinking of getting the Shure SRH840 or the Fostex T40RP MK3. What's /g/'s recommendation between those two? (I hope my Audioengine D1 is enough to drive the fostex).

>>57201753
I dont feel like using in-ears for my "quality" gear (I have a cheap Panasonic in ear that I use atm). Also getting my ears covered is comfy in winter.

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>>57201773
I apologize. I'm responsible for a few Maki OPs but those were some time ago.

>>57201829
Shure easily. I don't get the interest in the Fostex headphones at all.

>>57202369
Do you think the shure's 'lack' anything? I get the impression that they may lack in the bass. Is it suitable for some gaming every now and then aswell? And finally, would it be better to go for an open headphone instead of closed (and if so, which one).

>>57202420
I don't think the Shure's particularly lack in anything sound wise. Their bass is fine, as long as you get a seal and unlike the Fostex headphones, their response is quite even and neutral. The more neutral response makes bass stand out less. Build quality of the Shures might be a weak area. Their nearest competitor is the MDR-7056 and Sennheiser HD 280 Pro.

>>57202420
>>57202472
And to add, games are just fine. They don't impose any specific requirements for headphones any more than other listening does.

Open back can be preferred if you don't need isolation. It's subjective and use case dependent. If your computer or room/house is noisy, I'd get closed back. If not, I personally like the open back design more but that's just me.

>>57202494
Thanks, you've been most helpful! I'll probably pick up the Shure's and test them for a few days. Which open back headphone around the same price range (or a bit above, that's fine) would you prefer?

>>57202515
HD 558 as it's fairly neutral, easy to drive and almost universally comfortable unless your ears are very large.

Bringing this over from last thread...

>Budget
$50, but can be a bit flexible

>Location
USA

>Source
iPod Classic, Nexus 5

>Preferred type of headphone
IEM; currently own proper headphones (M50X), but want something smaller for work and other activities

>Open or closed
Closed is better for me

>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable

>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped or neutral

>Past headphones
Narmoo R1M (finally dying after 2 years of service), JVC FX1X, MEElectronics M6-BK


I know someone recommended the Mi Hybrids, but I feel their build quality isn't that great. My father had a pair for just 4 months and they died on him with no warning.

>>57203467
Senfer UES
Slight V-shape with good low end kick but no boomyness

Uses the Shure MMCX cable connector type so unless the actual IEM itself dies [which is rare] you can just replace the cable for like 10 bucks.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-SENFER-UES-Custom-Made-In-Ear-Earphone-Dynamic-And-BA-Hybrid-Headphone-As-UE900S-HIFI/32633013962.html

tho get the one of the versions without the cable, since imo the stock one isn't fantastic

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-new-Tennmak-Upgrade-MMCX-Cable-Detachable-Cable-for-PRO-Piano-cable-for-Shure-SE215-SE315/32707477882.html
i got this one after the first one started annoying me.

I'm getting the Shure SRH840 very soon. Quick question: Should I put the Brainwavz hybrid pads on or the 1540 pads?

>>57203756
HM5
more pad options. the material on the 1540 is kinda shit imo, but you may disagree.

>>57203796
Appreciated. The 1540's look kind of comfy though. Would either of the pads seriously impact sound?

>>57203821
Doubt it. If they did, it'd be so minimal that the comfort would vastly outweigh it.
Some HM5 are cheaper too.

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Hey poorfags ;)

>>57204084
nice instagram filter

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>>57204122
Thanks

>>57204084
You don't have to call them out. You'll meet plenty like you by just posting pictures.

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>>57204325
ns

Found an old pair of Meelectronics M6P IEM's since I lost my daily IEM's. Are these any good or a waste of time?

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Alright here's my stuation:

>Budget
$80- $120

>Location
USA

>Source
Computer, Phone

>Type
Full

>O or C
Closed

>Comfort
As comfortable as possible

>T-Balance
Warm or Neutral

HD598 or K702

as comfortable as possible over long periods of time and a detachable cable are a must

>Budget
$60
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Needed for portable use so closed
>Comfort level
Medium
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy/Vshaped (Bass>Treble, neutral or slightly forward mids
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Hesh2
Superlux HD 681
Samson SR950 (Current, favorite so far)
JVC HAFX40
VE Monk+

I need these to be fairly compact to use during study blocks and be able to take in and out of a backpack.

>>57204084
image is too small.

How often/do you guys clean your velour pads?

>>57207384
Every other week with a lint roller

Reposting from previous thread:
>Budget
$150-175
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop, laptop, Blackberry Priv
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size/over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, or at least not entirely shitty to wear
>Preferred tonal balance
V
>Past headphones
Piston 3s

>>57207862
>>57206866
>>57206144
>no one knows anything about headphones in a headphone general

>>57206866
>>57207885
Thanks dad, now actually help or contribute rather than shitpost.

>>57206144
NVX XPT100
>>57206866
Takstar Pro80?
>>57207862
DT770 80ohm

>>57206866
>>57207957
Thanks, I'll check them out.

>Budget
$100
>Location
Western Europe
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
Either is fine
>Preferred tonal balance
No idea
>Past headphones
JVC HA-RX700

Basically i fucking love the JVC HA-RX700, its comfy as fuck and honestly i don't have much experience with sound
and it was the best i had yet so it sounds good to me. I had them for about 6 years and they are still strong but
the little plastic part that connects the cups to the headband broke which was my fault and the wire now hangs and i am afraid that they might
go out suddenly so i need a backup, i would probably buy another pair of those but i am just wondering if anyone thinks that
with about 100 dollars i can get something better and as comfy as those, the most important point is comfyness though, i have to be able to wear them from
the time i wake up to when i go to bed and so far the ha-rx700 was amazing at that.

>>57207918
If I could help I would have helped the three who requested advice already. What are you doing?

>>57208034
Out having lunch with family atm

>>57207885
>>57208034
Theres no reason you cant help, there's enough information in those posts to do so

See
>>57207957

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>Budget
<$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Fiio's eo7k/pioneer sx315
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
semi open/ open
>Preferred tonal balance
Anything
>Past headphones
Superlux hd 681
jvs ha rx300
Shitty cheap ones

Im looking into akg k240s or grados sr 80e

>>57208622
HD558

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ID on these? I can almost read the brand but I can't :(

>Budget
~$200
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop/Computer and sometimes a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Needs to be comfy, I have sensitive earlobes.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, but least of my concerns tbqh.
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-V150


Thanks!

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>Budget
I'm trying to stay under $50, preferably even $30 or $40 if that's possible.
>Location
United States
>Source
Either bluetooth or 3.5mm headphone jack will be fine.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed, don't want anyone to hear what's going through the headphones
>Comfort level
Not-uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
I'm not necessarily sure what this is, but whatever's best for alternative rock music would be great for me because that's what I'm going to be listening to most of the time.

Thanks anons, any help is appreciated.

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>Budget
600 SEK
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Sansa clip or Android phone.
>Preferred type of headphone
In ears.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, I will use them in bed.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral.
>Past headphones
Audiotechnica ATH-AD700X
Sony MDR-V6 (I liked the sound balance of these)

I will be listening to mostly voice works.

>Budget
I was looking up to $350, but if there's a cheaper and better alternative then that's great.
>Location
United States
>Source
Bluetooth
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Plz comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Versatile

Have been dealing with leaking sound in the past, want something wireless bluetooth that'll keep a decent charge and offer rich sound.

>Budget
$50-$70
>Location
United States
>Source
Laptop, Desktop, Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy like my past headphones
>Preferred tonal balance
Pretty versatile like my past headphones
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202-II

What's a good upgrade from the Sennheiser HD 202 II? It put out pretty good sound. They broke, and I really need some new headphones.

Want to personally hear from you guys
How are the NVX XPT100?

Dumb question, but I need to know.

Where is the bass stronger, SteelSeries Flux (which I have rn) or Sennheiser HD598?

I heard the bass is weak on the Senns, so I am wondering if it's even weaker than on my current ones.

Also if I were to listen at volume 10-15 on the Sennheisers, would the leak be actually that noticeable? Louder volumes tend to hurt my ears.

No opinions please, just a concrete, precise answer.

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>Budget
100-300 dollars (but I have some caveats)
>Location
USA
>Source
Ps4,my mac, my phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized ideally, but IEMs would be fine for the gym
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Needs to be comfy as shit, I have a big head and intend on watching a lot of tv/movies with these
>Preferred tonal balance
Don’t have any strong thoughts as of yet
>Past headphones
Random shit

I need three things
Something to use while I work out
Something with good audio/headset for ps4/skyping/discord
Something with good audio for listening to music/watching movies

The only thing I’ve found so far that seems to be the best combination of all three (although I might need to get something else for the gym, dont want to fuck these up) is the HyperX Cloud II. People claim online that it can do 7.1 (evidently it’s not really 7.1 but whatever), even on the ps4. I want to make the investment in good headphones for these three things, so will I be really disappointed in the Cloud IIs for audio? Will it get the job done?

>>57210406
Very good. Comfortable as fuck and quite neutral. Good soundstage too because of the hueg pads.

>>57208710
Lloytron h400
http://www.adverts.ie/other-electronics/old-classic-headphones/7008157

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Give it to me straight, how fucked was my decision to get the ATH-M50x?
Was I meme'd?

>>57211056
Not really. Clouds are really good sounding. The 7.1 surround on the cloud II's sucks though.

Just get the originals, some 8 dollar velour pads from the old takstar hi2050s or some hm5 velours and you've got a more comfortable cheaper cloud 2. If you want virtual 7.1 you can use any Usb dongle that does Dolby virtual. They're not headphone specific

The original clouds can be had for under 70 USD on gearbest or Amazon I think

>>57211748
Yes you were meme'd. Bad comfort, sloppy bass and shithouse highs. M40x and hm5 pads would be miles better.

Return them while you can.

gonna attentionwhore my own post just out of curiosity if any anons have some knowledge on either pairs >>57206634

still thinking to pick K702 either way

>>57212623
HD558. Cheaper than both and better than both.

>>57212623
HD558 because K702 needs a amp and isn't neutral.

>>57213947
>K702 needs a amp
It does not.

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Morning poorfags ;)

>>57214032
hey poorfag

>>57214046
>Literally the best headphones on the market that aren't studio monitors
>Poorfags

I came here to laugh at you.jpg

>>57214058
>poorfag post purchase rationalization
lol

>>57214064
Tell me how the QC35s are bad.

I'll wait.

>>57214079
burden of proof is on you to prove they are the best headphones on the market, poorfag.

i'll wait.

>>57214082
Burden of proof is on the accuser faggot, which is you.

>>57214114
burden of proof is on the one making the claim. don't try crawl your way out of this one.

>>57214032
>>57214046
>>57214058
>>57214064
>>57214079
>>57214082
>>57214114
>>57214125

You both are retarded. Just enjoy your headphones and dont be cucks about your purchases.

>>57211647
thank you so much!!!

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For better or worse I brought these a while ago but I need a DAC &/or amp to go with them.
I can stomach a combined $600 expense but if there are slightly pricier items that are the tits I'll be ok with that.

>>57214416
no DAC/amp is going to make those listenable.

>>57214429
I...Think they sound good

>>57214736
i don't envy your 70 year old hearing.

>>57214743
Majority of reviews all say they sound good including my own opinion.

>>57214805
majority of reviews don't know what they're talking about. measurements don't lie.

>>57214809
What site(s) do you use for measurements?

>>57214817
Innerfidelity, GoldenEars, Personalaudio/Doctorhead, SBAF (flat coupler measurements), Rin Choi's blog, Speakerphone

>>57214141
Takes a cucked cuck to cuck a cuck, cuck.

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>>57214817
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Headphones#Frequency_response_charts

>>57213947
> needs an amp
> isn't neutral
Nice job, Franz.

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I had Yuin PK1 and loved the sound. They have since died and I need to replace them.

I'm looking for something with clear lower bass sound similar to Yuin PKs and isolation. I'm leaning towards RHA MA750 or Bose Ultras. HELP

>Budget
50eur
>Location
Europe
>Source
LG G5, PS4
>Preffered type
Over ear
>Open or closed
Either is fine
>Comfort level
For some short gaming sessions(2h)
>Preffered tonal balance
Flat or more on highs
>Past headphones
JVC HAs400, MDR-XB400, Edifier H850(last ones,really loved them and will get another if cant find replacement) left them on ground and dog stomped them rushing in.

>Budget: $50 flexible
>Location: Sweden
>Source: phone, OP3
>Preferred type of headphone: IEM
>Comfort level: eh? Haven't used that many different IEM
>Preferred tonal balance: I listen to a lot of hardstyle, hardcore, happy hardcore etc. But also Taylor swift, help me out here. I know shit about headphones

>>57215429
Xiaomi Hybrid IEM's
http://m.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_261864.html

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Just bought this boy for EDM and gaymen. Did I fuck up?

how bad is upsampling in windows 10? did they fix it with anniversary update or not? I've seen only measurements of first build

>>57215532
There was a problem with it before?(after Vista)

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What is everyone's thoughts on the KZ ATE's? Personally I love mine (for the price point) but the shiny/glossy foam tips are the worst. Constantly slip out even when I'm just twisting my head around.

How long can cables get before the signal starts getting shit? Right now, I have a 12ft Monoprice 3.5mm extension going from my PC to my headphone cable, which is 10ft coiled. I don't hear any difference really, but I do notice occasional popping when idle that may or may not have been there before.

I'm looking for some IEMs to replace my lost Pistons V3

>Budget
Preferably less than 20$/€, Im a cheapass
>Location
Spain
>Comfort level
I prefer comfortable ones even if I'm getting something not that great, the V3 were perfect for me, but they were also the only decent IEMs I've owned so don't have much experience to compare
>Preferred tonal balance
No idea, I think I prefer some balance rather than bassy sound
>Past headphones
Pistons V3. Own Sennheiser HD 202 II and Momentum Over-Ear but that's kinda unrelated

>>57215458
How are these compared to the Pistons 3?

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>>57215545
apparently this was fixed in w7, or so people say
so I wonder if w10 was fixed same way

>>57215624
why not just run 10ft headphone cable to pc? or is 2ft that important?
seriously though the shorter the better

>>57215648
Better. You can probably find comparisons online. These are what I've been using for outside of home and work for last few months. Damn good.

>>57215597
>Muddy sound because of the extremely bassy response and a notch in upper mids.
>Earpieces are bulky and many find them uncomfortable
>Tip selection is shit and the stock tips aren't good
>Wiring quality is poor and the wires are sticky

It's shit. Chinese shit.

>>57215648
>How are these compared to the Pistons 3?
Worse imo, the V-shape is even more accentuated and the response isn't as smooth or linear.

>>57215668
Sure that isn't just Geek Out being terrible again?

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>>57215678
The cable has to run behind my desk and up over to my left so the end sits on my desk. I probably bought a few feet too long, but the objective was to be able to plug and unplug my headphones without the cable in my lap or without having to give my PC the ol' reach-around.

>>57215532
Just use your own resampling plugin so you avoid Windows doing it.

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>>57215699

Well. At least I'm glad that I'm not the only one thinking the tips are shit.

>>57215683
>>57215699
>better
>worse
Fuck, I guess since they're cheap I may get one of both and try for myself

>>57207998
Help /g/, all i am asking is the comfiest possible and on a second priority highest sound quality possible for around give or take 100 euros,
i am afraid to buy anything else than HA-RX700 because i have sensitive ears and everything else (mainly non brand cheap shit) made my ears
hurt like fuck to the touch after a few hours.

>>57215725
that's fine for foobar but it's terrible for everything else, can't make windows use some other resampler if dac doesn't have drivers

>>57215835
If you set your output to 44.1kHz then everything else is fine.

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I have nothing to say of past headphones other than ow my poor widdle ears (I don't want to compromise comfort for sound in the case of closed-ear cans), with that said what American-made cans (closed or IEMs; straights and around-ear are both fine) does /hpg/ recommend for someone with a $100 budget listening from a laptop that prefers neutral tones and really likes listening to all the details in songs that also happens to have a big head with tiny ears that are more sensitive than an inguinal hernia after a coughing fit?

Muh 'conomy needs all the gdp it can get, please help me help make America great again.

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>>57215699
>Sure that isn't just Geek Out being terrible again?
seem to work on linux somewhat better

>>57215842
the problem is output is fixed to 96khz

>>57215858
why

>>57215870
dac is good but retarded that way, I didn't buy it yet

fostex hp a3, trying to figure out if I want it or not with this baggage
it's very cheap here right now $150
no, I can't buy odac/o2 they don't sell them here

>>57215895
that just means the DAC itself will upsample, you'd still be sending it 44.1khz, assuming the driver doesn't lock the output to it to 96khz as well

>>57215904
apparently it does in windows
it's plug'n'play, so in playback options it sets itself for 24bit/96khz
okay, I think I shouldn't bother with it
way too many issues may arise

>>57215401
Bump
Bump
Bump.

>>57214416
Get a Joutenheim. The version that includes the DAC.

Really good DAC, great features and can drive hell on earth.

>>57215429
Ignore >>57215458

Senfer UES if you want flat, and Senfer 4in1 if you want brightish flat.

both use MMCX removable cable type so unless the IEM itself dies [which is very rare] you can just replace the cable

both are about 35 on aliexpress

>>57215597
They're not awful for the price, but you can do better.
ED9's are better. More soundstage and not as muddy. More comfortable IMO as well

If youre willing to spend more, you can get a LOT better for 30-40 USD

>>57215847
Yeah went to check his blog. I could probably measure that myself.

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What are the better $100-$150 IEMs?

Juat ordered the Superlux HD681 EVO.
I wanted to have good headphones for the first time (on a budget), and I've been told they're very good for the price.
Was I memed?

>>57216314
No, but the 662 are better IMO
Though its kind of tonal preference.

The 681 EVO has solid bass and decent clarity. the 662 EVO has better soundstage despite being closed, and a more flat and clear sound.

Both are very good value. You shouldn't be dissapointed.

Just replaced my HD 681's with a pair of TAKSTAR HI2050's

terrible trade

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>>57216314
Worst Superlux

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Are the Focal Elear BS or actually good?

Bunch of reviews saying they're the best things out there and beating headphones that cost double. Yet I can't finds a place that has them in stock...

>>57216390
I have HD681. Why is Hi2050 terrible?

>>57216485
Pros over HD681: doesn't come with fucking pleb leather that chews into your ears
Cons: Sounds muffled and like shit compared to it, everything sounds like it's being played over by speaker from 10 feet away from you

>>57216054
does it mean I can ignore all this crap?

>>57216575
Depends on how you play back and what you play back. Using a separate resampler with your media player(like SoX with foobar2000) or another audio API entirely(like ASIO, WASAPI) bypasses those issues. It also depends on whether this shit is patched from Win 10 by now.

Nevertheless that may not even be audible but it's still an issue which I'd rather try fixing.

>>57216435
Nothing amazing. New hyped up shit with price tag that attracts idiots.

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>Budget
200€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Desktop (Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Sound quality is the most important.
>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH-M50 - Left side stopped working after almost 1 year

Was thinking about getting Audio Technica ATH-MSR7BK but would like to listen to some other recommendations.

>>57217096
Philips Fidelio x1 or x2, but they're open. Just maybe think that over.

>>57217197
x1 dont seem to be available and x2 is at 350€.
I really want to get closed headphones though because my environment tends to be loud.

>>57216936
I was looking for a possible upgrade to my k702.

>>57217609
Start by finding out what you like and dislike about the K702 first. Consider what you can't fix with an equalizer and what is something you see value in.

>>57217629
>equalizer
No

>>57217654
Can't use one or just not interested in getting good sound?

>>57217659
I don't subscribe to the logic of distortion equal good.

>>57217578
M40x maybe. They're better than M50 honestly and cheaper.

https://youtu.be/X6wBv03B1nk

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I will be using these on the train so they must be portable.
>Budget
$100-$150
>Source
Fiio E11k
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
pretty comfortable, but I could sacrifice comfort for value
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
I've tried AKG k 553 pro and ATHm50x
I liked the AKGs more.
I was thinking about getting beyerdynamic dt770s or brainwavz hm5s but they are both too big.

>>57217710
Distortion? Equalizer is used to get rid of frequency response issues and it works exceptionally well with headphones which are mostly minimum phase devices. Hardware EQ will add some non-linear distortion so for that reason as well as for more powerful results it's best to use a high quality software parametric equalizer to do the job. You can keep thinking in "upgrades" as long as you want but without the use of EQ, you'll never be able to get an ideal response - whatever that might be in your case. It can't fix everything but when properly used it makes most fr problems trivial.

>>57217792
You can use it. It's not for me. I keep analogue singles analogue.

>>57217837
>I keep analogue singles analogue.
That is unrelated to equalization.

My original advice still stands. Find out what you like and dislike about the K702 and move on from there. Check measurements, audition headphones which seem interesting and decide.

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RHA 750 vs Shure 750 vs Dudu Titan 1

I'm upgrading from Yuin PK2s and I loved the solid. I'm not a bass head at all.

>Budget
20 to 50€

>Location
France

>Source
Phone/iPod classic

>Preferred type of headphone
In-ears

>Open or closed
I don't think it applies but I want something discreet and comfortable that doesn't isolate outside sounds completely. Flat cable would be a big plus. I don't want something that breaks after 2 months if it's possible within my price range.

>Comfort level
For long use, but I don't really mind as long as it doesn't hurt

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to V-shaped

>Past headphones
Philips Shp9500
Pana rp HTx 7
Senn HD 600
Senn pxc 300
Porta pros

Thanks in advance

Will the HD600 sound like shit on my phone without amp?

Do they make a dac/amp everything? I want to use headphones and speaker from the dac/amp with rca and usb in but can't find one anywhere. They don't make a one box for everything thing?

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I do a lot of gaming. I decided I want a pair of 598's. I have a pretty bad MOBO, I will be replacing it, but I want a DAC just in case. I don't want to spend lots of money on it, anyone have a suggestion?

>>57220450
For more clarification. I don't want to spend more than $135 on a DAC.

>>57219814
Volume probably wouldn't be the best but it wouldn't sound like shit. HD600 is typically for desktop use.

Sorry for a stupid question, I have no idea headphones/speakers work, but could harsh sounds, for example in power electronics or harsh noise somehow damage headphones? Thanks.

>>57221401
No.

>>57218198
Piston 3. They're a bit on the V-shaped side, but they respond pretty well to EQ.

>>57220450
FiiO E10k

>>57221401
They're more likely to damage your ears than your headphones.

>>57200648
Anyone know if these are any good? Looking for an IEM and these fit my budget pretty well.

>>57220524
I'm assuming 598 would be fine with volume then?

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I can't decide between the HD598 and HD600.

I'd most use them for my PC. But it'd also hook them up to my TV for console gaming, iPhone for music and 3DS. Will the HD600 hold up on TV, iPhone and 3DS (doubt the 3DS) without an amp?

>>57222146
Thank you very much.

A bit of a broader subject, but I have a Asus Z170-A, I was wondering, since it is a newer board that supposedly has better sound quality and less interference, if anyone knows if a Sound Card would be a better option here.

>>57223139

You're generally better off investing in an external DAC / AMP than you are an expensive on-board soundcard.

>>57223025
Okay
Honest opinion on the HD series when it comes to the 3DS: SHIT BLOWS ASS

The wire is way too dense and long at the plug to be good for something you usually hold near your chest.

>>57223025

just buy the 600

or you'll buy the 598 and inevitably want the 600 in a year or two

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Massdrop HE-350
Should I cop or not?

>>57224204
I usually lay on my bed stomach down with headphone wire hanging off bed, wouldn't be a problem. I'm just wondering if the sound will be super quiet and shitty on the 3DS.
>>57224320
Does the 600 without an amp sound quiet on HDTVs and iPhones?

what's a nice portable amp? looking to use it with an iPod Classic and M6 Pro

>Budget
~$100
>Location
U.S.
>Source
My PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I would like them to be pretty comfy, though I won't mind buying replacement cups

>>57226715
HD 558 can be found for ~110 Use
They'd be your best fit. Otherwise go for SHP9500. Pads aren't the best but not too bad.

>>57226729
*USD
Not 'use'

>>57222860
depends how loud you like it, I found that my 10 year old sony walkman mp3 player can push 600s well enough
which was very unexpected, for me 85db is loud enough and you need only 2mw for that
sure 598s will be louder, but not by much it will hit limit as well on mobile

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
laptop and sansa clip
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized but I'm also open to IEMs
>Open or closed
Closed, I'm fine with straight and around-ear for IEMS
>Comfort level
As high as can be but sound is the highest priority
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral; I'm weaning myself off of gaming headsets so I thought I'd start with balanced sound that can also perhaps let me hear all the details in songs
>Past headphones
Not much to mention other than I've had gaming headsets in the past put a lot of pressure directly onto my (small) ears.

>>57226816
>Closed
>Neutral

that's a bit complicated in this price range
SONY MDR-7506/v6 kind of
or Takstar Pro80 maybe

and ATH-M40x but they are somewhat bassy

>>57226883
What about:
>$200 closed, netral
and/or
>$100, open, neutral

>>57226913
Philips SHP9500 for open,or hd558 if you can find them for ~100

SoundMagic HP150
Sennheiser Momentum 2

for ~200 mark

>>57227009
Thank you kindly.

>>57222368
Yeah theyre quite good. They don't isolate as well as certain custom IEMs but they seal well.

>>57226816
You've got a couple nice options in this price range.

- Brainwavz HM5/NVX XPT-100 [Essentually identical. Get whatever is cheaper]
Most comfortable stock headphones in your budget. Sound very good too. Neutral and great soundstage.
I'd say those are by far your best bet.

A couple MDRs could work.
- MDR-V6 arent completely neutral but honestly I still think they sound very good.
- MDR-7506 are more neutral. Sound good. Reference grade studio monitoring headphones.
Though MDRs dont have the best comfort they sound nice.

Takstar Pro 80 [now sold as ISK HP2011 on aliexpress for ~50 usd]
Theyre pretty cheap now but sound on par with ~100 dollar equivalents. Slap any nice HM5 pads on them and youve got a really nice solid set of cans. Neutralish with good bass extension.

Quite a few Shure headphones would fit too.

ATH-M40x with HM5 pads could also do well. Theyre not neutral but the bass isnt overly present and doesnt down much out. You can still be an 'audiophile' and enjoy some nice bass. Built well

>>57227343
Thank you for your recommendations. I think I might get the Takstar Pro 80 for now.

>>57227450
No worries
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Isk-Hp2010-Closed-Monitoring-Headset-Earphone-Headphone-Wholesale-Free-Shipping/1747003_32629324669.html
should be the cheapest link for em
and you find HM5 pads anywhere

>>57227473
wait fuck wrong link.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Original-ISK-HP-2011-Professional-Monitoring-Headphone-for-Computer-Recording-DJ-3-5mm-6-3mm-Connector/816277_1704735561.html

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>>57226282
You don't need one, especially for the M6.

Portable amps are weird because, a lot of the time, they have way more power for what they are made to power with a form factor not really fit for desktop use (ex battery powered, shape) and also a general inconvenience to have to carry another device, which is a detriment for portability. They don't magically make a headphone sound better either.

How do I go about cleaning hybrid pads?

fuck i gotta replace my m50x pads i bought the meme white ones and the only replacement white pads are the hm5s and apprently they fuck the bass soundstage up

i listen to house on mine so i want that precious tight bass.

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is the akg retard gone yet? havent been around in like half a year

whats a decent wireless amp? my iphone still has a 3.5mm jack but i hate having to dig my phone out of my pocket with a thick fucking cable every time. i know the audio-technica one looks really good but its like 120 usd and im a poorfag

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What are y'all's thoughts on On-Ear V-Modas? I want something portable with good overall quality and they seem to fit the bill. I'd mostly be listening to rock/metal, pop, hip-hop and classical/opera; the signature seems to be fine for this but I'm curious about what others think.

>>57227947
>fashion swappable gimmick
in the trash it goes

>>57212200
>dream headphone was M50 because the colors and the quality and the supposedly good sound for the price, all in one package
>today I realized it's just a meme
At least I'm glad I haven't bought it yet.

Is M40x a meme too? And should I get something else close to its price range?

>>57210832
Don't get Sennheiser 598 for bass.
If you're worried about leak don't get open cans.

>>57227990
No.
M40x are actually quite good once you swap the pads.

>>57227870
the nobsound mini has bluetooth v3
might not sound quite as good as 4.0, but really once you get to good bluetooth 4.x amps youre already in big money

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Daily reminder that weaboos are mentally defective

>>57228143
oh i was talking about like portable ones to carry on the bus.

>>57228192
ohokay
youre gonna have a real hard time finding many things that'll fit your needs
good luck man

>>57227815
Which one? The lack of FiiO E10K + K702 recs, random cheap AKG recs which nobody knows about as well as K55x/K545 recs is quite evident. Honestly it's pretty neutral here as far as brand shitposting goes.

>>57228166
>the furfag is back

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>>57200493
>100$ flexible (100CAD =80USD)
>Will be gettin em in Canada
>Phone
>Would like a nice pair of earbuds. (IEM's)
>I would just like for them to don't fall out my ears but I don't want pic related.
>I had some Skullcandy inkd's they looked nice.

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>tfw your stand is too short and your headphones rests on a cable

>>57228506
>retard takes a bait

>>57214831
>Innerfidelity, GoldenEars, Personalaudio/Doctorhead, SBAF (flat coupler measurements), Rin Choi's blog, Speakerphone
I know it's spoonfeeding but are there sites like these but for amps/DACS?

so does the SMSL M3 not accept 3.5mm?

>>57229195
It has a 1/4" jack so just get an adapter.

>>57229195
no it uses 6.3

but you can just get an adapter for a dollar or two

youre better off with 6.3 anyway
jacking 3.5 to 6.3 is shit because it adds a ton of stress

6.3 [1/4"] to 3.5 is much better.

its a good thing.

Is the HD600 good for Xbox One?

>>57229417
... why wouldnt it be?

>>57229417
>>57229515
Generally not a good idea to through that kind of headphone directly to a a console.

>>57228881
Not much. There are measurements scattered around the internet. Seeko(Korean website) has them, Goldenears has some, Innerfidelity has some, NwAvGuy's blog has a few, Archimago's blog, Superbestaudiofriends/Head-Fi, Stereophile, audio hobbyist sites/communities/blogs etc.

>>57229339
>jacking 3.5 to 6.3 is shit because it adds a ton of stress
Ther are short adapter cables for that.

>>57229669
You can't plug them into a console and there would be nothing to worry about if that was possible.

>>57229742
Good luck with the console audio powering those headphones.

There's a 3.5mm adapter.

>>57209674
>SEK
Use a real currency next time.

>>57229800
There isn't an analog out from modern consoles.

>>57229933
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/accessories/headsets/stereo-headset-adapter

>>57229933
???
PS4 has a 3.5 jack in the controller
i imagine xbox has the same

>>57229966
>>57229958
Oh yeah the controller. One anon used his HD 800s from DS4. Said it worked fine. While relatively insensitive high impedance headphones aren't really guaranteed to work perfectly from low powered sources like a controller, there's nothing really bad about it. Just a quiet output level.

>>57229993
you know you could put it through an amp right...?

>>57230035
Of course, if the amplification from the controller jack isn't enough.

Hey /g/, thinking about buying the Beyerdynamic DT 770. Is it worth it?

>>57230205
If you like heavy bass, yes. They're noice.

>>57230216
Thanks for the reply, Anon. I do love heavy base, but does it take away from the treble part of it? Since I also listen to Punk Rock/Pop and Country genres.

>>57230233
No. In fact the treble in the 770's is actually pretty present. Mids will be a little lacking, but thats going to happen in any bass heavy headphone.

>>57230260
Thanks based anon

>>57217096
If the MSR7's fit in your budget then go for it

Philips Fidelio x2, just ordered a pair, what should i expect?

>>57230440
Good bass and comfort. Average clarity and detail.

>>57230465
Thanks

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>>57229742
I feel if I had equipment i'd make a ton of money making real measurements for dacs,amps on youtube
why nobody does that?
personally i'm searching for dac and after reading a few reviews I have no idea what is what
read a few nwavguy measurements, but what he measured is too old or not sold anymore

>>57230625
For a lot of measurements all you need is a decent audio output and input, some software and know how. Cables too but those are cheap and easy to get your hands on. A high quality sound card is capable of measuring most gear and doing the important bits which are of interest for buyers like distortion(harmonic and IMD), SNR, frequency response, crosstalk and performance to different loads(both real world and synthetic). You can measure/calculate output impedance with a multimeter, some wire and a resistor. Audio analyzers like Prism dScope III are a step above this and not something hobbyists fiddle with.

>>57230846
you also need a supply of dacs and amps to measure
that's the hard part I think that stops most people, would be nice if people measured their own stuff
but what we get is praising dacs for $1-10k or being vague as much as possible

>>57230625
>why
While there is an audience for it, going too technical about audio isn't for everyone. Being ambiguous/subjective over some things is what sells and also what a lot of people are looking for. The consumer audio market isn't really competing with performance figures anyway. Everyone can review a product but to conduct measurements and being able to analyze what was measured requires some knowledge on the subject, from both the author and the reader/viewer. I always thought the majority of people reviewing audio gear does their readers a disservice by only talking about the sound and not measuring it.

Thankfully, as far as audio DA-converters on the market go, most popular designs are competent and something you can often pick up by mere looks and features alone. Amplifiers are a bit more varied and also have a direct correlation to the load performance(unlike the converter), which makes them more important in some respects.

>>57230916
Yes and I don't think many manufacturers would be willing to provide samples to measure because they may not be confident about the product and the market they target for doesn't care. Publications like Stereophile have a reputation and a long standing relationship with audio companies and they also provide(hilariously awful) subjective and often very positive thoughts about the products they review along with measurements, which are conducted by another person.

Many audio reviews are vague and only discuss subjectively perceived sound and not the actual performance of the hardware. You won't hear if the second harmonic is 60 or 90 dB below fundamental but you can definitely measure it. You also don't know about stuff like output impedance unless you understand how it works, have suitable load to try it out, A/B and guestimate the results instead of just doing a simple measurement to know what it's going on.

All in all, sighted listening of amplifiers and especially DA-converter is absolutely worthless.

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Alright
so flat out with it: the ISK HP2010/TAKSTAR HI2050 being any decent is a meme.

I've compared them with a lot of budget headphones, in and out, closed and open, ranging from fucking superflux 681's to an array of high quality sound editor and producer cans at friends and studios, and my god what in the fuck is this shit supposed to be?
The only people who I would even think these would be suited for are people who live in a cave with a speaker at each corner, the ISK HP2010/TAKSTAR HI2050 generously emulate the echo and "what year is it" experience of living in a cave, and now that I re-look at the more positive review videos, I can make resemblances of people living in makeshift caves (parents basements) howling on about sticks and stones and "takstar will rok ur earlobes", vibrating your insides as it stimulates the sweet sweet melody of a man bashing a wall with a cudgel.

1/10 would bring back in time to not scare cavemen away with, makes minecraft sound very realistic

>>57200493
hello anons, i need desperate advice.

i'm just getting into the audiophile game, just bought a pair of akg553 pro's. my issue is that my laptops sound card is actually complete garbage and im worried it won't do these headphones justice at all.

i'm currently using shitty 40$ sony headphones while i wait for the akgs in the mail, but i just constantly hear static and interference from my laptop. my phone is fine so it's not the headphones.

so here are my questions:
1.is it even worth it to get a usb amp thing
2.my budget is probably 40$ max. i'm poor af
3. are there any quality diy amp kits
4.whats the difference between dac/amps
5. should i wait for the headphones to come into the mail before buying one


background:
low budget

anything must be better than my laptop atm

i listen to a lot of different kinds of music, mostly indie and classical though

i'm looking to be able to adjust things like bass and treble

i'll be posting this on /mu/ and /g/ so i apologize for anyone noticing double posting.

>>57232837
>EQ'ing
gross

don't EQ- get better headphones

also get smsl m3 or fiio e10k for starters

>>57232837
>1.is it even worth it to get a usb amp thing
If your headphones are too quiet, yes.
>3. are there any quality diy amp kits
There are a lot of diy amp kits, but I don't know if they're good. There probably some that are.
>4.whats the difference between dac/amps
Dac's convert the digital signal to analog and remove any static or interference
>5. should i wait for the headphones to come into the mail before buying one
If you have static and it bothers you, then you might as well get a dac. You could see if it gets loud enough and if it doesn't then get an amp as well.

>>57232871
what's wrong with eqing if it's not software doing it?

>>57232949
>>57232871

thanks anons, i'd give you nudes but we're on a worksafe board

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>>57232949
>>57232871
also is this retarded to do?
it got rid of the static but it sounds odd now, i think it's a flat sound i'm hearing but i don't know anything about this stuff.

>speakers plugged into laptop
>headphones plugged into speakers
just fyi

>>57233009
If it works then that's what matters I guess, you should probably look into a dac.

What is the cheapest dac, amp or dac/amp with the lowest distortion available with shipping to australia?
pls no audio signature memes or tubes.

>>57233207
behringer uca222 and the fiio d3 are regarded as the cheapest dacs that are worth while. The e10k would be a good cheap amp/dac

i pulled the trigger on hm5 pads for my m50x, im probably gonna wanna throw them out after the new pads fuck the sound stage but at least they will be /comfy/

>Budget
£150
>Location
Uk
>Source
Smsl m3
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed or open over ear not on
>Around Ear or Straight Down
Na
>Comfort level
Need 8 hour sessions possibly more could do with planktonic 377 and ath m50 and sometimes mdr v6 but ideally more comfy than mdr
>Preferred tonal balance
Bass or neutral
>Past headphones
Mdr v6
Ath m50 Le
Ie6
Sennheiser HD 2 series something
Sen cx400?

>>57232949
>and remove any static or interference
Not necessarily. Depends on the source of this and DA-converters can be affected by interference themselves, discrete or embedded.

Are the HE-400s worth it?
It's within my price range and I've wanted to purchase a planar magnetic, but I've been hearing mixed reviews about the sound.
The second thing is that I'm using the HD-598, so is it worth the upgrade?

>>57229859
>Implying I don't use glorious swedish crowns every day.

>>57233207
FiiO K1

Best budget (<$50) in-ears with good isolation?

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canz

>>57215978
What's the difference between flat and brightish flat? If I were to focus more on hardstyle etc?

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How good are these?

>>57224452
Also curious about these.

>>57224452

Nope. Everything I've read indicates they are largely disappointing and not very representative of the higher end HiFiMAN cans.

I was looking at them as well, too bad really.

Since when did /hpg/s last for three or more days? Pretty nice actually with the lack of shitposts.

I just got my M50x, it sounds really nice.

Thank you for the advice guys, I was a bit skeptical about laying down $200 for headphones but music actually sounds amazing, I'm actually hearing parts of songs that I didnt even know were there.

>>57229417
Sennheiser Game One is 95% as good.

I fell for the HD600 and desk mic meme, now I just use this Sennheiser gaming headset and it's more convenient and my voice sounds better in game.

The Game One isn't as crisp as the HD600 but it's still very neutral overall.

DT770, DT880, DT990, Custom One Pro or something else entirely?

>>57239197
Game one is utter shit for music.

>>57239362
No, the 50ohm units are practically identical to the HD558.

>>57239882
No they're not
Stop shitposting

>>57217096
X2

I've been thinking about getting the QC35's if they go on sale this holiday.

Is Bose a meme brand like Beats, or are they legitimately good?

What're peoples' opinion on Master and Dynamic? I've can get a 20% discount through work.

I haven't visited this thread in half a year.

So, what's the latest in greatest headphones/IEMs?

>>57241043
>closed

>>57236566
bright means that the mid-highs are more forward
for hardstyle you probably dont want this

>>57235903
people say they are "warm"
I thought about them after 598s as well, got 600s and pretty happy with it
that imaging, I thought I heard how orchestra sounds before, nope

>>57236085
any, really, just check if they are bassy or not

>>57200622
How were the monks?

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>>57235903

Take mixed reviews with a grain of salt. Remember that people are who are dissatisfied are like an order of magnitude more likely to leave feedback than people who are satisfied, and that most people can't remove their subjective opinions on various FR curves from a review.

I also read "mixed reviews" about the sound of the stock Fostex T50RP MKIII (the only planar magnetic cheaper than the HE-400, basically) but I can comfortably say I prefer them in almost every way to the AKG K702 I had previously.

If you want to try a planar magnetic, maybe give them a try. At like $150 US they're definitely worth it.

>>57242513
I like them. They're a pretty impressive earbud compared to Apple Earpods and their older earbuds for dirt cheap. I wouldnt recommend listening to them without filters. They work great for just about any genre really except for songs that rely on sub bass which is non existent on the Monks. They're my emergency backup to my JVC's currently but they still sound great for the price. The only think I regret about my pairs is not getting the EX pack for the extra accesories but the Massdrop Reds do look nice.

>>57232950
>>57232871
Software EQ is the best way to do it. Hardware EQ is limited and components alway add noise and distortion. And there's nothing wrong with EQ as long as you understand what you are doing and use a high quality parametric equalizer. Multi band EQ which is found from many media players is very crude and some implementations do more harm than good.

Honestly if you are interested in getting the best sound from headphones, you should learn how to EQ and do it. There really isn't a downside.

>>57241574
Focal Elear and Utopia perhaps but I wouldn't say greatest. Imo there isn't anything interesting happening.

>>57243257
>There really isn't a downside.
there is: you are remixing the remix of a mastered record

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>>57243819
Except the problem here are the headphones themselves. Each pair of headphones has more or less colored response. The only way to fix that is through a proper use of parametric equalizer by creating filters that null the peaks and dips in the response. The end result, if properly done, is much closer to a neutral response than any pair of headphones alone can do. Of course you can EQ by preference too if you don't care about fidelity and here EQ achieves the same thing as changing headphones do: changing the sound signature.

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>>57200493
>>So, uh what if you attach a phone with the speaker power wires instead rigged to a small motor. then like uh, used the motor to close an electrical switch. Then like, totse use that switch to like turn on one of those dollar store electrical lighters, so you can totally light fireworks. Like I mean turn off the call sound for everything except one number, and like call that phone from, china or something?

lel incoming spoopies meme meme.

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>The snapheiser meme is real

Hey /hpg/ looking for buying advice. I posted in the previous thread here >>57187189. Unfortunately I did not see the response until now. I appreciate the response but have a few questions.
In regards to them not being neutral, since I cannot listen to them in person I am simply going off of other people's reviews. I am using theheadphoneslist's CIEM reviews list as a reference. Is this an okay source?
For the DAC, I thought it would make the music sound better. I understand most likely I can not hear the difference, but as I said I have the money and am willing to pay for any chance. I really appreciate my music.
In terms of isolation I understand acrylic is weak, but all the models I referenced are silicone. Thank you for telling me about deep fit CIEMs. I will request that when I order.
Thank you very much for your help. Any other advice or model suggestions are deeply appreciated.

>>57244991
>CIEM
But why?

apparently you can't control speakers through smsl m3's amp if the speakers have their own volume control, but does this apply if the speakers do not have volume control?

Is it important to spend extra money on a warranty?

>>57245035
After having Sennheisers for so long I have grown a distaste for having headphones on my head. This model in particular clamped, and was heavy. I want good isolation without clamping and lightweight. Is there something wrong with CIEMs?

>>57244826
AHAHAHAHAH

>>57244826
Pretty good deal deal, just get a replacement headband.

>$ 160.51
Oh.

>>57244826
For those parts that isn't even a half bad deal if you need them. Official ones are pricey. Headband padding, ear pads, cable and the drivers are still usable and cost a hefty amount new. And I prefer the HD 650 cable and headband over HD 600 ones so for people with HD 600, they could be "upgraded".

>>57244991
I think the response you got was pretty much on point. Best neutrality and highest isolation is achieved at a different price point and not from custom in-ears.

DA-conversion is simple and for some reason it has become a part of audio discussion where many think their gear as a simplified concept DAC+amp+headphones. I never really got the inclusion of the DAC there. Most modern converters achieve performance well beyond human hearing and you shouldn't need to worry about it unless there are some audible problems going on. It either disappears from the signal path by being transparent or alters the signal audibly in which case you should probably invest into a better one. I got a discrete DA-converter for peace of mind. Are those CIEMs for home use, portable or both?

>I am using theheadphoneslist's CIEM reviews list as a reference. Is this an okay source?
Take them as a grain of salt as far as description of sound goes.

>>57244826
headband goes for around 30, pretty good deal to get 650 that cheap

>>57245039
as far as I know it has line out, no pre outs
pre out - you can control volume from dac
line out is constant

>>57245132
They would be for both home and portable use. Mind if I ask what DAC you have? I was planning on using a DAC with my android phone and linux computer.
Also if I am using deep fit silicone will that really not give good isolation. I have heard an (internet) famous musician describe using reference CIEMs at his shows and not being able to hear his crowd screaming. I figured they were pretty good.

>>57245183
>I was planning on using a DAC with my android phone
just get portable fiio in your price range if you think something is wrong with your music

>>57245183
I have multiple because nearly every modern audio device has one but the one I use at home for headphones is the ODAC. I have Objective 2 + ODAC combo unit. For portable use I just have my phone(S7 Edge) as it has a great audio output already.

>deep fit silicone
No personal experience but should be lot better than acrylic molds. Not sure if they reach the isolation of canalphones like Etymotics.

while we are on the DAC theme, any smsl m6 owners?

>>57245220
So you think if I am using a note 4 I will not need a DAC?
I think I will read up more on different materials for CIEMs and canalphones. Thank you for the information.
I would still appreciate tips and suggestions from anyone willing to spare them.

>>57245270
>So you think if I am using a note 4 I will not need a DAC?
Won't be needed. If it's noisy or if you hear interference of some kind consider getting a discrete DA-converter to bypass that. Better yet get a DAP for portable use if you don't object to another device to play audio with.

>>57245325
Any chance you could recommend a DAP?

>>57245352
Cowon Plenue D perhaps. Measurements here:

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/data/m_device/cowon_PD_seeko.png

It has low output impedance and low noise level, both of which are useful with sensitive multi-BA drive in-ears. It also has very good battery life and great performance all around.

Template:

>Budget
EUR 150,-, flexible.

>Location
Spain

>Source
ALC1150 + Objective2

>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed (Skip if you want IEMs)
Over-the-ear, closed prefered.

>Comfort level
Would trade off a bit of comfort for SQ, but do appreciate comfort.

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, slightly bassy.

>Past headphones
T50rp, modded
HD668b
HiFiMAN RE00

What do you guys use/recommend as a mic solution for a DT770? I'm really close to getting a pair of those, but I just can't really find anything I like to use as a mic. A ModMic seems a bit too expensive, and dealing with extra wires is exactly not what I want, I can't use a BoomPro because it doesn't have a removable cable, a desk mic seems way too overkill and expensive, and a clip-on mic like that popular Zalman one seems way too cheap, cumbersome and annoying.

>>57245540
>T50rp, modded
why would you want anything else?
I don't think you can find anything better for the price, he-400s/500s, maybe, but they cost 5 times more

>>57245663
buy this
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Microphone-Vocal-Wired-Headset-microfono-For-Voice-Amplifier-Speaker-Mike/32589473958.html?
clip off the 'headband' part
3m adhesive the flat bit to the side of your 770
and then zip tie to cable.
ezpz

youre still gonna have to deal with 'two cables' no matter the solution unless you stick a bluetooth transmitter to the side of your cans

zip ties work [or heatshrink if you can get it over the termination]

that said desk mics are cheap, non intrusive and sound miles better.

>>57245822
>that said desk mics are cheap, non intrusive and sound miles better.
Is there any pastebin, guide or whatever with information about mics? I'm willing to get a desk one, but most of the ones I see are either really cheap shit or expensive ones that I have no real use for. I think I would still prefer a headset-like mic, just so I don't have to worry about it picking up sounds that aren't my voice, but if there's any decent desk one for around $20-$30, I'd try it out. Otherwise I'd rather just get a ModMic if it goes on sale next month or whatever.

>>57245913
Are you getting a mod mic? Do mod mics need pre-amps?

>>57246044
>Do mod mics need pre-amps?
It's a bit insensitive but no you don't need more than the mic input on your mobo. The mic does sound a lot better from better quality inputs however.

Is it worth getting the Cowon Plenue M2 over the Cowon Plenue D?

>>57246429
Depends on what you want but I'd say hardly as M2's battery life is significantly worse. That and it seems to have a bit more noise than the Plenue D. You do get a nicer screen, more output power, ability to play back more obscure formats like DSD and more DSP options.

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>>57246506
>>57246506
>>57246506

>>57245070
They seem pointless

>>57242222
>2222
So Senfer UES is the way to go then?

>>57242222
>>57248544
Just noticed the Senfer UES are one of those over ear kinds. Got any other recommendations as I prefer straight down ones?

Currently have a pair of Fischer audio consonance which sound pretty damn good for the price with comply tips. I've had SE215 I enjoyed but its been a decade since I've had those and I forgot what drew me to them. I'm a huge fan of comply tips but I'm tired of paying for new tips all the time. Do CIEMs give similar benefits as comply tips, i.e. more snug thus better sound, less fatigue, louder etc.? If so Customart music one fits my budget better but I might be willing to pay for the music two. Is the separate woofer/tweeter worth it or is the music one good enough for the money?