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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --

>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.
If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread:
>>57115324
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>Budget
10$
>Location
Turkey
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Working
>Open or closed
Idgaf
>Comfort level
As long as it doesn't burn / give my ears MRSA
>Preferred tonal balance
Bass
>Past headphones
5$ chink shit
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>>57159942
KZ ED9
KZ ATE

Chink shit is what you have for an option here and all of it is bassy. ATE is a bit bulky, very bassy but the inverted fit could be preferred. ED9 is smaller, a classic in-ear with a bassy response. They'll work and come with one or two ear tips.
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>>57159982
just what I was looking for, thanks senpai
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tell me about the v moda m100s hpg
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>>57160594
waste o' cash.
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>>57159900
Hey /hpg/, I just bought these badboys.
How well did I do?
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>>57160928
Forgot fucking pic
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>>57160945
do they get clogged with earwax?
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>>57160969
Nope, even if they would the filters are replaceable.
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>>57160945
Also, this is what you get in the box:
- a fuckton of tips
- a nice fake leather carrying case
- tuning filters to either bump up bass or treble or neutral (reference).
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>Budget
200-250$
>Location
US
>Source
Laptop, Samsung Galaxy S7 (Non-IED version)
>Preferred type of headphone
Headphone (mic optional along with Bluetooth)
>Open or closed
Closed preferably, but could go for both.
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Equal, but looking for headphones that can put great influence into bass. Preferably if possible the headphone ear area shake, feelsgoodman
>Past headphones
Samsung Level Over
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simple question. m40x or m50x for accuracy and flat response
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>>57161162
Neither
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>>57161195

not audiophile tier and have 130 bucks as max budget. Anything better at that price range?
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>>57160945
Why do people use ear dildos? They're uncomfortable as fuck and slowly make you go deaf. I will never understand.
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>>57161261
Sound Isolation in loud environments.
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are foam mopads or speaker stands better for powered monitors?

or are they the same?
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>>57161261
they make my 5$ earbuds sound like 50$ ones when I press em gently inside, very good sound production
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why do people buy anything other than chink headphones
anything else and you might as well start burning money
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>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
FiiO K1
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Pref open but either will do
>Comfort level
Can sacrifice comfort for better sound
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy/ V or U shaped
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Hesh2
Superlux HD 681

Wide soundstage is needed. I listen to EDM and will use them to game (CSGO, BF4, osu! mainly) any replies or suggestions would be great, thanks.
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>>57161242
There's quite better headphones that the meme AT's, and also the M40/M50 were never neutral accurate or flat, they have always had quite a lot of bass emphasis
If you don't want to get into modding and eq'ing for maximum value, then the Shure SRH440 are what you want
The Jaycar Pro/Fischer Audio FA-003/Brainwavz HM5 can beat the SRH440's with little modding, and are pretty much equally good ootb and cheaper, but they aren't from muh """""reputable"""""" brand like Shure
>>57161261
Sound isolation is the main thing, portability is the second reason, and thirdly it's much cheaper to make a good IEM driver than a good on/over ear driver
You also get much less resonance from the ear, which makes acoustic tuning much simpler and less expensive, and you can easily eq them into perfection since they have little if any resonances from the ear
>>57161350
They are dum, seriously
It's not even funny how chink headphones and electronics like smartphones have insanely better value than the """"""western"""""" counterparts
I've been out of the game for a while, but what are the best value headphones after cheap modding/eq'ing?
Are the TH-02's and the Superlux's still the best value? What about IEM's? Are the Xiaomeme still great or are the new KZ's best value? I'm mainly looking for accuracy and flatness
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>>57161355
Used AKG K550, might be a bit of a light v shape though, the bass isnt overpowering
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>>57161162
7506 or v6 for flattest closed back
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>>57161425
>There's quite better headphones that the meme AT's, and also the M40/M50 were never neutral accurate or flat, they have always had quite a lot of bass emphasis


I heard the m40s is not as bass heavy. I currently own a m40fs and it has very little bass. The problem is i fucked up the pads and was wondering if the m40x were an upgrade or maybe i should just look for replacement pads.

I will check the shures.
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>Budget
$100
>Location
Murrica
>Source
Desktop 3.5mm
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
The Superlux I had in the past would get uncomfortable after long enough
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681
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>>57161504
I'll check them out, thanks. Also forgot to add to the OP.
>Past Headphones cont.
Samson SR950
I love these. If they were open, they'd be my perfect headphone.
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Ok weird question, maybe not completely headphones related but somewhat:
I'm using a BeyerDynamics DT990 Pro for about 2 years now.
I recently discovered: if YouTube is turned ALL the way up, its level seems to hit the ceiling and videos start sounding really bad. But when I lower the YT volume while turning up my "amp" (I'm using a Meteor Mic which has a level so it kinda acts like single volume control AMP) the quality goes back to normal while Volume stays the same.
I only started noticing this recently although I always had the volume set to maximum and not all YT vids actually level out of bounds, but quite some, even commercials.
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>>57162197
as a rule keep every thing except foobar and OS internal volume control at 80%
something messes with channels or something
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>>57161261
I use them when working remotely, I don't have room in my bag for my nice headphones and theres no way I would bother transporting them all the time anyways, so these are cheap, light and do what they gotta do.
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>>57162197
I feel like this should be a well known fact by now, but volume control should happen at the amp/mixer/whatever. Maxing out the original source is not a good idea.
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>>57162630
>Maxing out the original source is not a good idea.
Maxing out digital volume control is the only way to make sure you are getting all the information sent to your analogue amplifier.

If you knew anything about digital attenuation, this would be a 'well known fact' to you.
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>>57162669
Oookay, Mr. Perfect-Onboard-DAC
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>>57162307
source?
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>>57162753
>Oookay, Mr. Perfect-Onboard-DAC
What did he mean by this?
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>>57162197
you shouldn't be having any kind of clipping problem unless you're running eq software and don't know what you're doing or have the most dogshit amp in the world which is expected because people won't stop recommending chinkshit amps
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Need a bit of help here. What's a good set of dac and amp to power a AKG K712 without blowing too much money?
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>>57162197
Something is clipping, your onboard might be sending out an amped/high-level signal, which might be clipping the input of your external amp
Or you are running some DSP's that are clipping
>>57162832
The O2+ODAC and the Schitt stack are still the best value outside chinkshit
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>>57162938
Seconded for O2+ODAC, anything above that is placebo audiophile tier
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>>57162832
>>57162938
Thirded O2+ODAC is great. Don't get anything by Shit. If you want to get something that's better than Schiit wait until the end of the year. O2+ODAC is what you should get right now if you can't wait.
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>>57163268
Is there that much of a difference between Schiit and O2+ODAC?
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>>57163268
>wait until the end of the year
what is this meme referring to?
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>>57162804
>doesn't read post
>claims other people are idiots
Stay dumb
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>>57163439
Schiit is prettier and more of a meme, slightly more expensive too, it isn't transportable like the O2+ODAC
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>>57163495
thanks, really helped
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>>57162772
>DAC2 HGC
How can he recover?
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>>57162307
The only reason why you would want to avoid using digital volume at 100% is if you have excessive amplifier gain requiring you to use high attenuation where poor quality pots can have audible channel imbalance. If you don't have excessive gain, put digital volume to 100% and control the volume with the pot.
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>>57163495
>>57163495
The non-uber Magni and Modi stack are $80 cheaper than an O2+ODAC, and there isn't an audible difference.
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>Budget
£150
>Location
UK
>Source
Laptop, PC and Phone.
>Preferred type of headphone
Not IEMs, smaller is preferred.
>Open or closed
Either. Never tried open.
>Comfort level
Would accept lower comfort if it's cheaper
>Past headphones
Original M50s that are wearing out now.

Also what's the difference between AKG K702 and K612. They're £20 apart.
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>>57164051
>AKG K702 and K612
They both need amps and are power inefficient. Save up for HD600.
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>Budget
Anywhere between £100 to £150, I don't mind spending a bit extra if I need to
>Location
Bongland
>Source
PC without a soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
Just wired headphones will do, I don't need a mic or anything
>Open or closed?
Closed preferably
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible, I hate having my ears ache due to the pads
>Current headphones
Audio Technica ATH-M30x

I only really use my headphones for games, anime and maybe the occasional movie
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hey. i can buy unused dt 880 from a friend, but they are older. its not the actual version. its a version from around 2004-2010?!?! watch the picture, they are flat and not round like the new ones. anyone know if they are as good as the actual ones?
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>>57161261
See
>>57161296

It's pretty much the number one solution for getting on a plane for example. Further more I can't use the rubber tips that usually come with a pair, so I buy aftermarket foamy tips. COMPLETELY different experience.
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>>57161261 OP of post

I also use foam tips. Comfy and give a better seal. I can't stand using rubber/silicone tips.
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>>57165324
Shit meant of >>57161296
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>>57159900
my girlfriend is looking for new headphones. the 20€ ones she was using broke.

>Budget
< 50€

>Location
germany. http://gh.de/ for prices.

>Source
phone

>Preferred type of headphone
definitely no IEMs. over-ears or on-ears are fine.

>Open or closed
closed

>Comfort level
probably more important than sound quality in this case. most importantly, it can't be the kind of headphone where your ears get all hot and humid if you wear them for a while.

>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, maybe a bit bassy. definitely not v-shaped.
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>>57161712
Bump. I think I can up it to $175 as long as I can be sure to get a lot out of them.
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>Budget
$50

>Location
U.S.

>Source
Ipod/Laptop

>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
As long as they do a good job I don't care how I fell

>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy or V-Shaped

>Past headphones
Sony MDR-ZX100
Tascam TH-02
Skullcandy Uprock
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>>57166098
scratch the V-shaped
I just want bassy or equal
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Why is S.M.S.L. so shit?
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>>57162197
Don't plug your headphones into your microphone. Start there.
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>>57163268
Ignore this guy.
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>>57164775
I had dt150's which are an older beyerdynamic reproduction of the dt100. They sounded fine. My bet would be that they would sound fine, but you should audition them on your setup first. If he's actually a friend he should loan them to you for a week or so before the purchase happens, so you can see for yourself if they're worth it.

If he insists that you buy them blind they're probably broken or total shit.
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>>57165685
Do you want full sized over/on ears, or earpad design?
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>Budget
$200 AUD hard limit

>Location
Australia

>Source
Pc with Creative x-fi soundcard, will be used for music,movies and games

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized, Over ear, and sturdy

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Something that can be worn all day, preferably a material that doesn't peel

>Preferred tonal balance
nothing specific

>Past headphones
Sony MDRNC13 - my portable headphones, I like them but they can make my inner ear a bit sore after prolonged use.

Roccat kave - pretty shitty 7.1 surround headphones that i only use on stereo mode, held together with tape and zip ties.

Corsair vengeance 1400 - most comfortable headset I've ever owned, cant use them anymore because the wire at the volume control is busted and I've already soldered it twice.

Any help is much appreciated.
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>Budget
600 SEK (~60 euro)
>Location
Sweden
>Preferred type of headphone
In ears
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible for lying down.

Will be using these for voice works.
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>Budget
200, Willing to spend more

>Location
Canada

>Source
PC, Phone

>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear

>Open or closed
Prefer Closed, but open would be fine.

>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable, I would be wearing them for most of the day

I listen to a bunch of trip-hop, rap and j-rock if that helps.
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>>57163626
Through active employment.
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I need replacement pads for my ATH-M50.

Any recs?
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>>57164350
>Save up for HD600.
k702 and 600s are exact same price in euroland
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>>57166423
most people agree it to be fantastic for the price, did you have bad experience? inconsistency is a price you pay for it being cheap
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>Budget
50-150 euros
>Location
Belgium
>Source
Smartphone, desktop pc
>Preferred type of headphones
Anything in this price range
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
Mostly for music and some /v/idya
>Preferred tonal balance
U-curve
>Past headphones
Marshall Major II
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>>57166423
Working fine for me.
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>>57164775
They sound the same IIRC.
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help me pick my first headphone pls
>Budget
100 us dollerinos
>Location
US
>Source
Laptop, phone.
>Preferred type of headphone
full size big boy headphone
>Open or closed
close
>Comfort level
very
>Past headphones
just some Apple and Samsung buds
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>>57170718
I had a pair of Audio Technica ATHM30Xs. Definitely recommend them. Really comfortable, closed, and within your budget.
However, They have a flat tonal response, which might not be your thing.
You might also be able to get ATHM40s for that money if you're lucky.
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>Budget
$150-250
>Location
land of opportunity
>Source
Micca Origen+
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Prefer open, but open to suggestions
>Comfort level
literally clouds on my ears (open to aftermarket pads)
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral or slight V
>Past headphones
Ostry KC06A
Vsonic GR07
Takstar Pro80 (too warm for me, but not bad)
Philips SHP9500 (loved these to death)

Standard 3.5mm removable cable very much preferred, but not a total dealbreaker
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>Nuforce Icon uDAC 3
Not a headphone I know, but still would like your opinions. Looking for something (relatively) cheap that'd be easy to use and still give better sound quality than my motherboard. Might use them with my phone and laptop too.

Is it worth buying or a waste of money? I'm somewhat heasitant on sinking this much money into a DAC.
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>>57170831
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/nuforce-udac-2-drama.html
>buying non-audiophile dac amp combos
FiiO E10K or Audioquest Dragonfly Black.
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>>57170892
The dragonfly looks dodgy as hell though. Ehh, I guess you're right though. I'll have to think about this more.
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>>57169464
Anyone?
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>>57171095
m40
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>>57171112
? What
>>
> Think headphones sound great
> No real deal breakers
> Solid pair
> Still get bored of them
> Don't know why
> Want to buy a new pair
Somebody end my misery
>>
Bought a pair of HF5/3s for work I must say they are excellent.

Thanks gee gee
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>>57171686
How's the long term comfort? I was considering grabbing a pair for my commute.
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>>57165685
bump

>>57166880
full sized > earpad but both would be fine i guess
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>>57164435
Brainwavz HM5/NVX XPT-100 [Whatever is cheaper]
Extremely comfortable, fairly neutral but can be EQ'd well, easy to drive, and most of all sound good.
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>>57169464
Brainwavz HM5 pads
theyre kinda a bitch to get on, but they'll improve most headphones by a mile.
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>>57162832
Get a fostex HP-A3
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>>57171840
Not him, but I have the hf-5 too: in short, they're great. The thing I love the most about them is the noise isolation: one day at work the alarm system went off; I was literally under the siren, and it was so loud it hurt a bit, but with the hf-5 on and the music playing at normal volume the siren was almost inaudible.

Downsides are the lack of bass (it doesn't pack a punch in the lower frequencies because of the balanced armor drivers), and the fact they get very uncomfortable after a few hours. Also, they're expensive and I don't think they're a great bang for your buck.

Oh, if you buy them, remember to wear the cable around your ears: in this way you won't suffer microphonics and they'll never fall off.
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>>57170831
>give better sound quality than my motherboard
Relative concept.
>Is it worth buying or a waste of money?
Could even ask something more subjective?

>uDAC 3
>3
It's fine, gets pretty loud and is easy to use. Had no issues with mine which I got to bypass the broken laptop's 3,5mm headphone jack. Stereo RCA out and coaxial are nice to have.
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>>57170831
You might want to take a look at some SMSL dac/amps
they'd sound similar and have more features
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how do I detect if my headphones clip or not?
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>>57173209
Headphones don't clip, your source or amplifier might.
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>Budget
$400 hard limit
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop
>Type
full sized
>open or closed
closed
>comfort level
anything i can wear with glasses for long periods
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>past headphones
cheap chink shit
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>>57175423
OPPO PM-3
>>
Best DAC for both headphones.

Currently looking at the DT 770's 250ohms or the ATH M50x's.

was looking at the FiiO E10K for the mx50's but not sure what I would pair the 770's with. I can get the headphones for around £100 so £100 budget for the DAC
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>>57166423
just got sapVI
surprised, for $50 it's unbelievably clean
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>Budget
let's say up to 160 eurobucks
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
desktop, occasional phone use
>Type
over-ear
>open or closed
don't really care
>comfort level
maximum comfy, got Shure 840 and 1840 pads as well as HM5 velours already so I can switch pads out if necessary
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, though a slight V-shape or bass emphasis is fine too
>past headphones
modded T20RP Mk3s (one driver might be kill, but fucking loved these), Hi2050s, shit gaymen headsets
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>>57172344
>Downsides are the lack of bass
The bass is flat, it doesn't lack it, but it doesn't boost it either.

I've always found the bass response to be superb and detailed on Etys.
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I'm half-tempted to sell my DAC2 and try find a well priced Hilo.
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I'm gonna buy the bose quietcomfort 20s unless there's something else anyone recommends that is better. I really enjoyed borrowing my friends for a airplane flight. The noise cancellation effect was a pretty cool experience.
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>Budget
250€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Desktop (onboard sound)
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
im looking for something that i could wear 24/7 without getting pain in my ears.comfort is main focus for me and would sacrifice sound quality for it.i also wear glasses
>Preferred tonal balance
i like bass but i kinda wanna use it for alot of stuff like music,movies,voice chat & games of all types.(im a sound noob)
>Past headphones
i used mainly headsets but got a condensator mic ,i apologise in advance.
Superlux HD681 (kinda ok,but after 3-5 hours my ears are kinda hurting)
Logitech G230 (were my best so far,could wear them 8-10 hours without pain)
Logitech G933 (too heavy,god awful mic,squeezing my head.bad experience,i sent them back after 3 days)
Creative FATAL1TY (bad and bad)
Plantronics Gamecom 367 (i should sue them)

thanks in advance
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>>57171135
I think he's saying ATH-M40 pads or Aftermarket M40 pads.
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>>57177656
Why? I'm not knowledgeable about Hilo, but what does it do that the DAC2 doesn't assuming (and most likely they do) they both sound the same?

Also why the tube amp? The DAC2's output is enough for the HD800(S). From my findings most tube amps sound the same as solid state outputs, sometimes they might have high output impedance which changes the sound a tiny bit. I do like the aesthetics on tube amps.
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>>57178152
Is your head large? If not, DT770 80 ohm will suit you.
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>>57178406
>but what does it do that the DAC2 doesn't assuming (and most likely they do) they both sound the same?
Doesn't have 5 trillion blue LEDs.
>Also why the tube amp?
To give it a go, I sold it months ago.
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>>57178476
Fair enough. What did the tube amp sound like? Was there any change in the HD800S' sound signature?
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>>57178432
thanks alot sir
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>>57178499
Not enough of a difference to justify keeping it around and dealing with the tube warm up and heat output.

What I measured was a midbass hump as expected for the output impedance.
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anybody have a Dayton Audio DTA-120?
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>>57178528
Not audible but shit site's lists:

>Output Impedance: 14 ohms (hi gain), 3.5 ohms (lo gain)

Not bad though.
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>>57178571
thats a speaker amp btw
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>>57178613
that's what i was thinking about using it for. i didn't want to start a new thread.
it does have a jack for headphones btw
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>>57178528
HD 800S with flat coupler?
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>>57178681
With my flat coupler yes. Not the best by a mile. It's been collecting dust for a while now actually.
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>>57178680
Most speaker amps are fine, and it's better than the cheaper lepai.

Headphone output may not be great, might have to check the manual and read the output impedance spec if it's there. But the headphone output will be good for flat impedance headphones.
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>>57178713
are you hpg's purrin?
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>>57178745
No I actually like the HD800S and Benchmark DAC/HPA.
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>>57178713
Yep. Useful at showing a relative difference like that though.
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>>57178760
>Benchmark DAC/HPA
2bright4me
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>>57178773
Between your ears maybe.
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>>57178784
I never really got the audiophile hate for Benchmark.
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>>57178768
Hence why I prefer a flat coupler. I could get a model ear and all that jazz but the more inconsistent results and less comparable results between headphone models render it pointless.

I would only consider getting a model of my actual ears to best emulate the response on my head, the other option would be to get one of those tiny mics to stick in my ear while the headphones are on and measure it like that.
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>>57178805
They focus on measured performance and use Sabre chips to achieve these numbers. Measurements are already a red flag for audiophiles but they really have a distaste for Sabre chips because of all the chi-fi equipment using them.
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>>57178855
I remember sonove using one of those mics:

http://sonove.angry.jp/ER7Ctest.html
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I bought these headphones because they got decent reviews. The sound is muffled and the bluetooth skips every couple of minutes. The positive thing I can say about this headphone is that it's comfortable.

Avoid the Photive BTH3.
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>>57179863
what pads are those, i think they look cool
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>>57179863
SAMSON SR850. Best headphones I've ever owned. I wish I can find bluetooth headphones with the same quality.
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>>57179911
I paid like 30 dollars for these. Comfy as fuck, clear as fuck sound signature. A fucking steal.
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>>57179911
>>57179932
How would thes headphones compare with chink IEMs? I'm a HD668b owner looking to try earphones for the first time.
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>>57179911
I've got the 950's. Basically closed 850's with more bass and velour pads. I got them for $30 and absolutely love them.
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>>57179863
What's up with those pads? Actually though you had them wrapped around one of those foam tennis ball before I read >>57179898

But yeah the Koss are nice, was my favorite until I got the M50x. I still use them when not at the computer since they're so portable.
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>>57179898
>>57180264
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002B4OEZ0/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_EqLcybVE81TWR
These are the pads, make the sound more balanced and I swear after putting these on I fell in love with them. And the lifetime warranty means I can keep loving them forever.
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>>57180332
Mostly use them when biking to uni, so I don't really feel like I'm using them in good enough conditions to need such a thing.
The life time warranty really is great, I have probably got new elements at least 4 times since I got them.
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>>57175958
Don't get m50x's. Bass is too muddy and highs are aids. Get M40x. Cheaper and sound better.
And you'll NEED better replacement pads with any m?0x series. Get HM5 pads. They're worth the extra cash for orgasm comfort.

The e10k will push both the 770's and the m40x fine. though you might want to check some SMSL DAC/amps and the Micca Origen. They have more features for around the same price, and better quality.
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>>57178152
M40X with HM5 pads
or DT 770's if you want hyuuug bass
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>>57175958
I have the M50x and are happy with them. You wont need a FiiO to drive them, but if you want it for sound quality I guess you could get one. I just use my computer.

Maybe >>57180581 is right though, these are my first higher-end headphones so I don't really have a good reference.
I disagree with the pads part though, I think the original ones are good enough so you don't "need" to replace them. I also read that they have changed the material in them so they shouldn't deteriorate as the older without the "x" series did.
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>>57159900
That's actually a pretty cool image.
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>>57181078
>I disagree with the pads part though
You've never used any higher end Sennheiser/AKG/Beyerdynamic/anything with HM5 pads then.
I used to think the same way as you. But once you get good comfort, you can never go back.

>these are my first higher-end headphones so I don't really have a good reference.
They're not awful, but honestly, I'd argue that current generation Beats sound better purely because the highs arent as gross. Both have fairly muddy bass.
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>>57179863
I'm having flashbacks to comfygrados autism.
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>Budget
$1500
>Location
USA
>Source
Schiit Stack
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort
Needs to be pretty comfortable.
>Preferred Tonal Balance
Neutral to slightly warm but emphasis on imaging and clarity. Don't want thick muddy sound. I want bass extension but a neutral amount of bass.
>Past headphones
HD598 and M50s, did not care for either. Currently have HE400S's and they're not bad. I'm looking to jump straight to high end.From what I've read LCD2's and STAX are really all that fits what I want. LCD2's are uncomfortable though. Not sure what else is out there.
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>>57171636

That's how I have 10+ headphones now. Even now, I have 5 wishlisted on Amazon that I plan getting down the line.

Anyone have any recommendations on triple driver in-ear monitors? There's one on Amazon made by some Italian producer dude for ~about~ $100 with good reviews, but I dunno. Somethin seems fishy about them.
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>>57181452
Ether
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Do any of you guys actually wear Porta Pros in public? I love mine but they leak way too much and look so goofy.
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>>57181598
>emphasis on imaging
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>>57182169
You just kinda have to learn that people wont give a fuck and neither should you. Shit, my friends say my Samson SR950's look retarded in a skype call but do I care? No. They sound good and I like them. I wouldnt mind wearing those Portapros with the yellow pads in public.
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$50-$100
Canada
Source: My desktop.
IEM
Comfort level: Need to be max comfy, many hours in a row on computer.
Anything but bassy, I prefer slightly bright.
Past headphones: Had two PortaPros, broke them and they made my ears hot. Sounded nice though.

p-please respond these things hurt my ears.
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>>57182893
also if it's on amazon canada I'll personally suck your dick

[spoiler] no homo [/spoiler]
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>>57182280
Find me a headphone that's not bright but has an emphasis on imaging.
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>>57182936
>>57181598
What about bright headphones with good imaging. HD800?
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What are some good replacement earpads for my MSR7s? They've worn down a LOT since last year.

Audio technica said a replacement would be like $45
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>>57183852
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Meijunter-Replacement-Audio-Technica-ATH-MSR7-Headphone/dp/B01J3DK1OE/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1477107598&sr=1-5&keywords=msr7%2Bpads&th=1

Will these do? They're cheap but I'm wondering what they'll do to the audio
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>>57183852
HM5 pads will probably fit, like they do on fucking everything.
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>>57183953
>>57183953
I can't find them on Amazon, what's the difference between them and the chink pads I posted above
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>>57183987
I've got a pair of the velour ones, they look thicker than MSR7 stock pads in pictures and they use really nice memory foam.
Should be on Amazon, they're made by Brainwavz.
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>Budget
$100-$175
>Location
'Merica
>Source
Phone - OP3, might get a mobile DAC/AMP
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed.
Must be closed, using them for commuting.
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible.
>Preferred tonal balance
No serious preference, neutral maybe?
>Past Headphones
I tried some akg headphones and ATH-m50x, I liked the m50x's more.
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>>57184446
These (XPT-100) seem to be what I'm looking for, but does anyone have something smaller and more portable?
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Thoughts on Alpha & Delta D2 & D2M

>Source
Cellphone

Listen to shitty to sub step and rold rock.
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>>57185232
Just get a HD6x0/10
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>>57185232

I own them, don't listen to >>57185349 they're not comparable to the HD6x0. Best headphones I've ever owned by far, sold my HD600s, DT990s and K7xx's the day I got them.
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>>57185349
I loved the HD600 but I'm spoiled by the LCD-2 (older non fazor version)... Elear managed to knock all Audeze products off the charts so that's why I was asking.
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>>57185377
Damn. Have you tried any Audeze products? I'm very interested in picking up an Elear (heard they are out of stock everywhere)
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>>57185377
>not comparable to the HD6x0
Yeah, because the HD6x0 can actually produce 2-6khz.
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>>57185401

Yeah, I demo'ed the LCD-2 and HD800 on my quest for the best ~$1k headphones. I found the Audeze to be a little bit too warm, lacking some treble 'sparkle' and fairly uncomfortable (namely cause I wear glasses and they clamp like fuck) and the HD800's to be perfectly clear sounding but unfun, and also too plastic-y for a $1k price tag. Elear pretty much eliminated both those cons, while also having the best low end I've heard on headphones. Not as clear as the HD800s but much more fun.
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>>57181452
Get Elears and a better amp like AGD NFB-11
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>>57181452
SRS 3100 or 2170. Whatever is cheaper for you.

>inb4 10k peak
0db relative to 1khz unlike a Beyer.
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>>57185553
Thanks man. I didn't even consider the glasses part. :)
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>>57185629
>0db relative to 1khz
irrelevant
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>>57185596
>unironically recommending AGD garbage
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>>57184446
Brainwavz HM5/ NVX XPT-100 [whatever is cheaper. theyre near identical]
Though if you liked M50X, you'd want to go for M40X with HM5 pads [the same pads on the brainwavz hm5 headphones]
theyre the fucking god tier of comfortable headphone pads
and M40x > m50x as any sensible person on /hpg/ will tell you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6wBv03B1nk
i know /hpg/ hates Z reviews, [he is pretty plebbit] but his video is accurate
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>>57181185
Thanks.
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>>57167164
still looking for advice guys.
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>>57167164
Save up for MSR7 or go for M50x/7506
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re00's worth it for someone in aus? or is there something comparable for similar amount of dosh
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>>57186759
Looks great.

>Take anything after 8-9kHz with a grain of salt because of the limitations of the coupler. The 12kHz spike is a measurement artifact.
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>>57186715
thanks, I'm looking into these right now, looks like I can get the 7510 for about $36 cheaper and looks like they have bigger drivers compared to the 7506, thoughts?
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got my first chinkshit amp
when I switch it on it has this slight thump in headphones
is it normal? can it actually damage headphones? opinions vary too much on this one
no other sounds except this, no noise, or anything
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>>57186878
this is what it looks like
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>>57186878
Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCZ-AJQOiDg Fast forward to 8 seconds. It means DC current or something like that goes into the driver which damages the headphones.
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>>57186973
nah, its on off cycle
mine thumps when I turn it on
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Thoughts on b&o h7?

Buying for a friend who tried and likes them but if there are any weird fuck ups you guys know about I'd appreciate it. I noticed they're a bit heavy, but I'm assuming most closed cans at that size will be
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Budget: Less than $4000, incluing DAC, flexible
Location: United States
Source: Need help picking out a DAC
Type: CIEM
Tonal Balance: Neutral, with GREAT ISOLATION. Isolation is very important to me.
Past Headphones: Seinnheiser POS Head Clamp Garbage
Considering SE 5-way ultimate, Custom Art Harmony 8 Pro, M-Fidelity SA-43
Anyone with experience with these or who has any comments or advice?
I know with my hearing there may be some diminishing returns at this price point. I am aware. I care a lot about music and I am willing to spend the money.
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Meme
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>>57187302
990s are shit.
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>>57187369
They're fine for what I paid
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>>57161712
you should look at dt 770's
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>>57187369
Do you know any better headphones in this price range?
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>>57187883
HD5x8 (or the new 5x9s)
DT880 for a few more bucks
Even the SHP9500

DT990 has way too much treble energy.
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>>57187099
>overpriced wireless shit.
That's your big fuckup right there
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>>57187883
K702/701/Q701
>>
I CAN get a HD 518 for 60 bucks less than a 558, worth it?
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>>57188186
depends how much money is 60 bucks for you

518 different enough from 558 for me to justify $60, but that's me
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>>57187189
The flagship IEMs are not neutral. They don't even try to be.
Serious attempts at neutral are usually more conservatively priced, and often limited to the single driver model. The competence of most of these folks is questionable, and not just because their product is not flat.
>SE 5-way ultimate, Custom Art Harmony 8 Pro
These models are not neutral at all. CA's Music One is a better attempt and not as good as some of Hidition's models, let alone Etymotic. But then again, you can and should use EQ to flatten the response more than what any acoustic and simple electrical tuning can do, not that people seem to listen to this suggestion.

>Need help picking out a DAC
Pourquoi? Portable or desktop?
An external portable DAC is not really needed, unless you have one of those new phones without headphone jacks. Amplifiers can be handy, although their real utility with sensitive balanced armature in-ears is to serve as an impedance buffer and as an attenuator. You might not care about the impedance, depending on the IEM.
>GREAT ISOLATION
Cross off most CIEMs from the selection. Closed universal fit earpieces have better isolation, with the right fit. Acrylic shells tend to be lacking, what with being mostly hollow and most IEMs are usually not deep fit (unless by request).


>>57186799
Don't take those charts at face value, even with the disclaimer.
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>>57186799
What kind of a coupler was used here?
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https://www.geteven.co/products/even-headphones

meme or nene
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>>57189892
shit until proven otherwise
>>
used HD800 from Amazon at 400€. Yes or no? I'm going to drive them with a Fiio E10K?
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>>57189986
That's an insane price. What kind of a condition?

>I'm going to drive them with a Fiio E10K?
Yes.
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>Budget
£140
>Location
UK
>Source
Mobile phone, PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Around-Ear
>Open or closed
No preference
>Comfort level
No preference
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm, bright or neutral
>Past headphones
Some shitty no-name crap. I like the SoundTrue II's from Bose though.

Pls responde I want prime delivery from amazon in next 43 mins
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>>57159900
>search for "mids"
>no results on the page
>mfw
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>>57190017
The seller states that they're like new because he/she has never used them, but honestly it sounds a bit fishy to me. I'm probably going to send the seller a message and ask for some pictures.

Is E10K enough for them?
If I'm not wrong, Sennheiser ships the HD800 with an amp inside the box. What's it like?
>>
>Budget
~200€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I use headphones 10+ hours a day so comfort preferred
>Preferred tonal balance
Idk, nothing too bass heavy
>Past headphones
HD 518

I was considering something by Sennheiser but open to other brands as well.
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>>57190085
AKG K701/K702/Q701
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>>57190072
>Is E10K enough for them?
Yes unless you EQ heavily, listen very high dynamic range content/watch movies and like them loud. If this is the case, you might want to get something more powerful. Honestly, try them with it. If you lack volume or want something fancier for whatever reason, upgrade. If not, there's nothing E10K is doing wrong or incapable of doing. Headphone drive requirements are unrelated to the market status or price point. HD 800s are just slightly less sensitive than K702, DT880 250 Ohm or HD 600/650 for example.
>Sennheiser ships the HD800 with an amp inside the box.
They don't ship with anything else than the headphone. No adapters or accessories included and definitely no amplifier. I bought them new for twice the price you are finding them used and I considered that a very good deal two years ago.
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>>57190167
Ok thank you. I own a K702 now and honestly I'm pretty happy with them. I usually don't turn the knob of the Fiio E10K beyond 3 or 4 at low gain. I could easily afford a HD800 even at its full price, but honestly I couldn't help being attracted to the price of this seller.
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>Budget
Let's say 150-200 dollars. Anything in that range or below is welcome.
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Pc with a Audioengine D1
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed please
>Comfort level
Hey I'd like them to be comfy in this price range but audio is the main criteria
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm or neutral I guess
>Past headphones
ATH-M50
>>
Here's a good deal for you audio autists, buy a Fiio X1 audio player for $99.99 and get Fiio EX1 earphones for free
http://s.aliexpress.com/2EZrmy2u
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>Budget
MAX 175 EUR
>Location
Latvia
>Source
Desktop PC. Motherboard: MSI B85-G43, no ext. soundcard. also case Aerocool Xpredator x1 (not sure if it has front ones prebuilt or not since my pc is prebuild)
>Preferred type
non-earbuds. never tried a full-sized one, but am open to it. on-ear is good, too
>Open or closed
I'd prefer less sound leaks, but if Open means better sound, then I am down. I usually listen at volume 10-20, so shouldn't leak too hard anyway
>Comfort level
comfy, I guess?
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. Maybe warm (not too bass heavy, though), but not V shaped or Mid forward.
>Past headphones
SteelSeries Flux (on-ear) (Also can anyone please tell me, are they considered open/closed and are they considered neutral?)
Apple Earpods
>Going to buy a DAC/AMP?
No. No exceptions.
>What do you listen to?
Catch-all, basically. Generally EDM/HipHop/Pop/Electronic/Rock/Alt Rock/Jpop/Kpop.
>Gaming, too?
Yes.
>Been looking into anything?
Yes. I'd like opinion on the Sennheiser HD598 as a possible purchase. Is the new 500-series good, too? What is the 579 like, for example? Better/worse?

Preferably a 2-3m 3.5 mm cable. Does anybody know if my motherboard supports a 1/4 inch (6.3) cord, though?
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>Budget
~$200
>Location
Croatia, but can order from anywhere with the EU
>Source
PC (Realtek ALC1200, actually decent) + Yamaha RXV361 amp, or iPhone 6S with a standalone DAC/amp (I don't know which one I'll get)
>Preferred type of headphone
Around-ear
>Open or closed
I think I'd prefer open
>Comfort level
I'm using HD439 at the moment which are extremely comfortable, in fact I usually forget I'm wearing them.
They're much comfier than even HD515s.
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped, also lots of sub-bass.
I mostly listen to hardcore techno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeVj_0iDZTo)
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD205, HD439, HD515, CX200SII
Superlux HD681 EVO, HD668B
Vintage AKG K240
JVC HA-FX33, HA-FX35 (Marshmallow)
Monoprice 8320
Xiaomi Hybrid
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>>57191938
Also, I like my music loud, as in on the edge of distortion when my using my amp.
>>
>Budget
$15 for earbuds, $200 for headphones
>Location
USA
>Source
Note 3/iPhone 5
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-the-ear, but I need discreet (and cheap) earbuds for work
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
high, for long wear, particulatly in one ear and moderately-low volume
>Preferred tonal balance
flat
>Past headphones
Audio Techinica ATH-M50S/Samsung HS330 (came with the Note 3)
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Got these for about 150 dollars in my local currency. Now I'll have to return the ones I just bought a week ago.

Fuck I hate headphone shopping. Luckily my local store has a very lenient return policy, otherwise I've gone for 20e buds.
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>>57191938
>>57191986
Beyerdynamics DT880 250 Ohm

>>57191463
AKG K702/K701/Q701

>>57192279
Welcome to the club
>>
These any good?:

https://www.amazon.com/Rhapsody-Mogan-Headphones-Isolating-Microphone/dp/B01L6TUOHW
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Thoughts on the new Sony MDR-Z1R?
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>>57192435
Top tier build quality (nothing else comes close), top tier comfort, pleasant sound (nothing that stands out but also nothing bad either). Kind of overpriced but I'd buy them at €1599.
>>
Could a smartphone with a "bad" 3.5 mm connector fry or short a pair of iems?
In less than one month, two pairs crapped out on me, both of them with the right earphone suddenly not working anymore.
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>>57185629
too bad our ears don't work like that, the 10k emphasis is plainly audible, also the mid-bass is boosted (for me at least) which seems like the result of an imperfect seal, funny how all the stax fags wank over the flat bass response when I'm sure 90% of them don't achieve a perfect seal, also perceptibly the bass response should sound stronger with the imperfect seal, the real problem with stax is the etch and recessed midrange, they're colored as fuck, they're only praised because it's a niche and not many people can experience it

then again, most audiophile headphones are shit, hd800, lcd-2, etc.

the sweet spot is hd600/er-4 tier
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>>57192435
It could be the best closed headphone ever made, but I would never spend more than 1000$ for a headphone, especially a closed one.
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>>57192658
>the sweet spot is hd600/er-4 tier
Stop forcing memes and bashing high-end headphones only because you can't afford them.
HD800 is superior than the HD600, anyone claiming the opposite either is affected by Down Syndrome or never compared them side by side.
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>>57192435
Probably great in everything else except sound.
>>
>>57192751
Or just people with working ears who heard both without the use of equalizer.
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>>57192881
> muh treble spikes
Have you ever wondered why bright headphones have naturally better imaging?
Do you think that Sennheiser engineers are so ignorant? There's a reason if their top heapdhone, aka HD800, has a somehow similar sound signature to the top model headphones from Beyer (aka DT880) and AKG (K70-).
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>>57192435
About as interesting as anything in "high end" headphones recently so not at all.

>>57192751
What makes the HD 800 better in your opinion?
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>>57192985
>Do you think that Sennheiser engineers are so ignorant?
Considering the fact that the peaking is a resonance in the housing and not at all a resonant frequency of the transducer itself, yes.
>>
What is the only recommended headset ? Kingston HyperX Cloud(no X, not II) right ?
>>
No one knows or not the right thread to ask this >>57192561 ?
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>>57192998
Better imaging, you know, when you can hear different instruments in the tracks besides human voices?

>>57193009
> Sennheiser has been building and improving the technology of open headphones for like 60 years
> "yes they're ignorant because the HD600 I have is considered as a neutral headphones by only a couple of measurement sites"
> "yes they're ignorant because they deny that neutral automatically equates to having a better imaging"
Ok dude, hopefully you'll be fine under the rock for the next 20 years with your supposedly neutral headphone :)
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>>57193099
I'm not the guy who shills the HD600 like his life depends on it, I'm just saying that was either an oversight or something they just didn't care for in their production of the HD800.

The fact that their 'measurement' plots are incredibly useless and actually makes them look 'flat' could be a clue as to why this slipped. For example here's the plot for my HD800S.
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>Budget
Roughly the £100 mark, bit above or below is fine

>Location
England, probably would order from Amazon if not from the retailer’s site

>Source
Will be generally used with my laptop but occasionally with my phone

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Would prefer as noise cancelling as possible so closed

>Comfort level
Comfort can take a rather large hit for sound quality but will be wearing them for hours at a time

>Preferred tonal balance
Bass, bass and more bass, really wanna feel that kick

>Past headphones
Current set, if I remember correctly: skull candy paul frank Hesh
They’re alright, comfy for prolonged use up to a point, the sound quality is average but they’re getting old now so looking to upgrade, specifically looking to cure that basshead hunger
>>
>>57192985
>Have you ever wondered why bright headphones have naturally better imaging?
Yea before the time I realized how everything in perceived sound ties into frequency response one way or the other. Simplifying that bright = better imaging is dumb.
>Do you think that Sennheiser engineers are so ignorant?
No I think they are very capable if they try. HD 800 is very good aside of the FR coloration.
>There's a reason if their top heapdhone, aka HD800, has a somehow similar sound signature to the top model headphones from Beyer (aka DT880) and AKG (K70-).
And that is?

I like my HD 800s but really only after EQ.

>>57193009
Can you provide something that shows that?

>>57193091
Can't think of an example and I doubt it. It's pretty common for the solders or wires to come off. Humidity and dirt in the ear pieces also breaks poor quality in-ears easily.
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>>57193163
>Can you provide something that shows that?
I know it's a flat coupler but
>>
Is there a more comfortable pair of good headphones than HD558/598 ?
>>
Is the Brainwavz HM5 still a great choice? In need of new headphones, but if there's anything better in the same pricerange I'd like to know.
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>>57193142
check em
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>>57193465
Check'd.

According to my graph I should have some STAX-tier air above 12kHz.
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>>57193333
Okay quick updateo n this one: HM5 or Fostex T40RP (or is the T50RP much better?)
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>>57193586
I think these plots could be just flipped upside down and they wouldn't be any more or less accurate.
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>>57193620
What I want to know is why the fuck the vertical line down 1kHz is darker when they clearly don't normalize their plots there.
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>>57193465
>>57193142
>4-bit digital waveform for analog frequency response
what the fuck sennheiser?
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>>57193680
>digital waveform
what the fuck anon?
>>
>>57193196
The graph doesn't do much to quash the notion that it is a transfucer problem

>>57193142
>could be a clue as to why this slipped
Pretty sure that's just used to expedite unit matching procedure, rather than design. The QC procedure would have those plots on displays to check tolerance.

>>57192561
>smartphone with a "bad" 3.5 mm connector fry or short a pair of iems?
Battery output can't manage that. Much more likely the cable frayed apart, as they are want to do.
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>>57193910
>The graph doesn't do much to quash the notion that it is a transfucer problem
There is no evidence on the contrary.
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>>57193929
Here is another measurement of an HD800 driver in a different housing (closed-back).

Rin Choi also came to the conclusion that the peaking was either a housing resonance or a resonance shift due to the centre hole, however it is more likely to be the former.
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>>57192329
Don't the AKG ones more or less require an amplifier to sound good/better than the 598? And isn't the HD598 more comfy as well?
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>>57192751
>HD800 is superior than the HD600
For everything except sound quality. I own both, kiddo. Yes, the HD800 is more comfortable, has a better cable, feels better in the hand, but the stock sound signature is garbage.

In fact, HD800 gets 90% of my head time, I use it when consuming most multimedia, except music, I can't tolerate its sound signature with music.
>>
>>57194181
eq senpai

eq
>>
>>57194181
eq senpai
>>
>Budget
100€ max.
>Location
EU
>Source
Desktop 3.5mm, smartphone occasionally
>Preferred type
anything but IEM
>Open or closed
Prefer closed, willing to consider open
>Comfort level
As long as there is no pain on ears after extended use
>Preferred tonal balance
dont understand about this stuff
>Past headphones
Steelseries Siberia V2.
I liked them but the "leathery"-stuff on ears is horrible in retrospect. I want different material next time. Also integrated mic was nice to have.
>>
>>57186878
That's not good.

You got chinked. Destroy it and buy a new amp.

>but I paid $X for it!
>but X said it was good!
>but I don't want to spend good money to get good sound

You got chinked.
>>
Will an audioengine D1 be enough to amp the T50RP MKIII? Would really like to know this in advance.
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>>57194167
>Don't the AKG ones more or less require an amplifier to sound good/better than the 598?
No, AKG being difficult to drive is a lie that has been perpetuaded by audiophools on headfi. If anything, HD598 is harder to drive because it has a shit impedance curve.
> And isn't the HD598 more comfy as well?
Totally subjective. The headband's self regulation and the light weight of the AKG are really hard to beat.
>>
>>57194352
>AKG being difficult to drive is a lie
K612 Pro are hard to drive.
>>
>>57194375
K612 has twice as much the impedance of K702, so yeah, it might be harder to drive but not by a large margin.
>>
>>57194459
The K612 have lower voltage sensitivity as well.
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>>57194352
That impedance curve doesn't make them hard to drive. Output impedance can effect the response but power requirements aren't affected. The impedance hump is the easiest part to power.

>>57194480
As you would expect because of the higher impedance with similar driver design otherwise.
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>>57194480
K702 has 107 dB/V, K612 is around 106 dB/V. Again, it's not a huge difference.
>>
>>57194522
K702 are 105dB SPL/V
K612 are 101dB SPL/V
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>>57194511
Yeah, when I meant hard to drive I was referring to the impedance bump, a high output impedance can make the bass sound much worse. HD598 are very sensitive headphones.
>>
>>57194056
Don't see the driver peak around 6kHz?
>Rin Choi also came to the conclusion that the peaking
The concluding statement was less than definite or specific; it mentioned all possible causes of the associated frequency response. That includes coupler associated resonances.
Polar chart shows only a few dB shift in response from repositioning the housing by moving forward. Limited performance of broadband absorber applied to the housing.
>>
Have a pair of shp9500's and recently been having some crackling issues. It sounds like the drivers might be damaged, but I'm not sure. It seems to happen most frequently with vocals. I've tried using a frequency sweep to pinpoint the range that it happens but can't reproduce it. Happens at any audible volume.
>>
>>57194679
The fact that it occurs on a flat coupler eliminates the chances of it being pinna related, the fact that it is not apparent on a headphone with a modified housing eliminates it being a driver resonance shift.
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>>57194745
One of the raw driver measurements show an 7kHz peak with lower Q, the other shows a 3-4kHz bump.

Not sure why we're trying to reinvent the wheel when it was established a long time ago now to be a housing resonance.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/468461/hd800-imaging-and-treble-why-and-how-it-can-be-improved-upon
>>
Since we're sort of on the topic, I've been thinking of buying something like K702 but I'm a bit worried about paying +$150-200 on headphones that potentially are chinkshit factory made and ends up being shit quality. Last thing I'd want is to find out that after a week of use I hear something rattling inside.

My previous headphones were the DT990 and I would want something that is comfortable as fuck, great sound quality and all of that stuff but the most important thing is a detachable cable. It's an absolute must when there's a baby around the house that loves to grab everything in sight and tug on the cables.

K702 worth for the price? Would gladly look up anything of similar quality as long as it has great long-term comfort and a detachable cable
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How much of an upgrade is the lyr/bifrost over the original magni/modi?
>>
>>57194352
Hm, I see.

Then, why are the AKG ones better than the hd598? Google seems to show me otherwise.
>>
About to pull the trigger on AKG k702, is the "lack of bass" really as bad as people make it sound?
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>>57159900
did i make a bad purschase? i don't know know shit about headphones.
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>>57195034
Just hope that your head is the right shape because they have some serious sealing problems.
>>
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>Budget
$100
>Location
Canada
>Source
Galaxy S7
>Preferred type of headphone
In ear
>Comfort level
Something that will stay in the war while biking and running but will still be comfy.
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't matter so much but bassy.
>Past headphones
Used sennheiser momentum in ear which got stolen and currently using bose soundsports.

The bose soundsports are around 120$ here and they're ok for me but I feel like I could get better ones for around that price. The cable on them is starting to get broken so will need to replace them soon.
>>
>>57194985
> Google
Where did you take that info?
K702is more detailed than HD598, it has better imaging and it has more balanced sound.

>>57195026
Absolutely not, bass on K702 is just really tight and definitely not overwhelming, it has a very fast decay as well. Most people here either are bassheads or like warm sound.
>>
>>57195176
>Absolutely not, bass on K702 is just really tight and definitely not overwhelming, it has a very fast decay as well. Most people here either are bassheads or like warm sound.
Fuck off shill, rolled off is not flat/tight.
>>
>>57194949
Not an audible upgrade.
>>57194985
The AKG is considered in a higher class because of its price point, but the HD598 has better measured performance and consistency.

FYI, Harman stopped using AKG K701 for their listening tests and used a lowly HD518 because of it's consistent fit. Harman's AKG parent company.
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>>57195026
The lack of bass is simply due to it sealing on the head.

Full seal = warm bass response.

Loose seal = tinny bass response.

K702 are bad headphones, I've always considered them shit because of the fit. You either buy the K7XX or K712 which has fixed the sealing issue, but sound worse IMO. Or you buy a better alternative like DT880 or HD600.
>>
>>57195328
>The lack of bass is simply due to it sealing on the head.
It's not, they are rolled off as much as an HD600 when they have a proper fit.

>DT880
Flattest bass in a dynamic. -4.5dB at 10Hz, flat to the upper midrange where it dips.
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Ayo nigga
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>Budget
600 SEK
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Sansa clip or Android phone.
>Preferred type of headphone
In ears.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, I will use them in bed.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral.
>Past headphones
Audiotechnica ATH-AD700X
Sony MDR-V6 (I liked the sound balance of these)
>>
>>57195026
>About to pull the trigger on AKG k702
weeaboo headphones
>>
>>57195779
any legitimate downsides that are improved upon with headphones around their price range? Or are we just throwing buzzwords and memes around just because
>>
>>57195779
You're free to recommend me something else, see my post >>57190085
>>
>Budget
250€ - 350€

>Location
EU - Spain

>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Size

>Open or closed
Doesn't matter

>Comfort level
The best possible :S I spend so much time with my computer and always with my headphones listening music.

>Past headphones
Logitech G35
Takstar Pro 80

I listen all kind of music, Hip-Hop,Regge,Jazz,Techno,Rock,Heavy....
>>
>>57194692
If you can't record it and upload it then it's your music at fault.
>>
>>57194949
The HD800 would probably sound a little less harsh on the Lyr.
>>
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What are some good and cheap chink headphones? I have rock zircons and Kz ates and I love them both, but I need something with a straight jack as weird as it sounds.
Tonal prefference- balanced or v shaped if the mids are still somewhat discernable.
Budget- 20 bucks
Location- US.
>>
Anyone else lurk Audiobudget.com ? I think it's a pretty good source for decent cheap headphones . Check it out if you haven't already.
>>
>Budget
$50
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Won't really matter, straight down or around ears. I have a spare pair of Comply T400 Large
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy or V-Shaped with neutral or slighty forward mids, Bass>Treble
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Ink'd
(Muddy otherwise decent comfort/sound)

JVC HAFX40
(They're nice and comfortable around ear. A bit bright if not sealed properly. Bass is a little lacking at times.)

VE Monk +
(I like the sound signature with two thin foams on each channel although don't quite sit well in my ears. Lack of sub bass.)

I'm thinking of getting TTPOD T1-E's but unsure of the comply tip compatibility.
>>
>>57197327
I also wouldnt mind using the rubber/silicone tips if I have to.
>>
>>57195981
>Source
>Desktop PC
Spend on a DAC+AMP too
>preferred tonal balance
Would probably be a good idea to address this part of the form.

Sennheiser hd 650
>>
>>57194222
>dont understand about this stuff
Bass, Midrange, treble.

Did you like things like cymbals and footsteps in fps games being emphasised over the voices of your friends in games? Or did you want something that has more bass for bigger explosions on grenades and tanks and things? Maybe you want something with a balanced sound so you can listen to more music this time round.

>100europs
Sennheiser hd518
>>
Anyone know if there are any cheap versions of Brainwavz HM5 earpads?
>>
>>57188186
Kind of. Theyre not as clear or detailed, but theyre quite warm and bassy for a closed phone. I'm kinda considering grabbing a pair second hand and slapping some velour HM5 pads for some ghetto X2's
>>
>>57161072
All S7's are ieds
>>
>Budget
~$400
>Location
'Merica
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Either
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Whatever is best for classical.
This will be a setup for my father and I do not know much about audio.
Would it be better to get headphones and amp or just headphones?
>>
>>57197931
HD600 + Objective 2
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>>57159900
Need to know which one to choose.
AKG K545 vs DT770
Coming from HD 668B if that matters. Price doesn't matter as Im buying used and they are relatively the same price.
>>
>>57197943
>HD600
would it be worth it to step it up to the 02+odac?
>>
>>57198113
DT770.
>>
>>57198170
Also looking around it seems that schiit is also highly recommended. is there a big differnce between schiit and the o2?
>>
>>57165324
Can you recc some good foam tips?
>>
I'm at a complete loss at words. Someone says their Dragonfly Black outperforms the FiiO E10K.

Thoughts?
>>
>>57198455
The same kind of person hears differences in USB cables.
>>
>>57198455
Not exactly hard to outperform the E10K when it's about as baseline as you can get.

More or less an external motherboard audio codec.
>>
>>57198355
Comply are the only ones I know of. Choose your IEM from they're brand supported list. 3 pairs for $15, 5 pairs for $20 without the earwax guard filter in the opening. $20/$28 with the earwax guard.
>>
>Budget
$50, but can be a bit flexible

>Location
USA

>Source
iPod Classic, Nexus 5

>Preferred type of headphone
IEM; currently own proper headphones (M50X), but want something smaller for work and other activities

>Open or closed
Closed is better for me

>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable

>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped or neutral

>Past headphones
Narmoo R1M (finally dying after 2 years of service), JVC FX1X, MEElectronics M6-BK
>>
>>57160594
Good if you want a portable set. If you're only going to be using them at home and don't need closed, you have better options i.e. X2, 990
>>
>Budget
$50-$150, ideally under $100 but if $50 gets me some extra quality then so be it.

>Location
USA

>Source
Samsung Galaxy Note 5, Aune T1 Mk2 amp/dac

>Preferred type of headphone
IEM. As the anon above, I currently own a variety of over ear headphones but currently aiming to build up my repertoire of IEM's

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
The more comfortable the better, however, I don't intend on taking these IEM's on jogs or any sports activities.

>Preferred tonal balance
I would like some bass. Not a lot to the point where it drowns out everything else, but some extra bump would be appreciated!

>Past headphones
Beyerdynamic DT880's (600ohm), Massdrop x AKG K7XX, JVC HA-SZ2000, Audio Technica M50x, Velodyne vLeve (They were like $20 and figured why the hell not. Really light which is a plus!)
>>
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>>57167256
>>57169863
>>57182893
>>57195143
>>57195484
>>57197327
>>57198988
Xiaomi Hybrid

Also waiting for that anon I recommended it to replace his broken Pison 3. Are you still here? Are you happy with it?
>>
>>57199573
Hybrids are worse than Piston 3s.
>>
>>57199604
Why?
>>
>>57199617
Because they sound worse.
>>
>>57199648
To you they might. Hybrids have better bass and highs.
>>
>>57199667
No, they just have no mids. Bass on the Piston 3 is already elevated and the treble is smoother than the Hybrid, which is just peaky trash.
>>
>>57199573
Fuck off. They're fine for the price, but you're recommending them for people with +$50 dollar budgets. Tou have to be full down syndrome to think that they're that good.
>>
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>>57199673
>No, they just have no mids.
Are you talking about High-Mids? You're mistaken. Midrange is 250Hz to 2kHz from the link below.
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm

>>57199673
>which is peaky trash
Are you dumb? Just because you see it in graphs it's peaky at 10kHz with Xiaomi Hybrid?

Pic related. Breath / Air: 10kHz - 16kHz is peaky on Xiaomi Hybrid. Piston 3 is more sibilant between 5kHz to 9kHz where a Hybrid is U shaped.
>>
>>57199847
>provides zero citation and falls back on semantics to form some kind of argument
>>
>>57197327
>>57199573
>>57199604
>>57199673
I guess I'm getting TTPOD T1-E's, thanks.
>>
>>57199847
>i have no idea what i'm talking about: the post
>>
>>57199969
You mean the numbers and kHz I posted?

I thought it was common knowledge how everyone checks online graph measurements of earphones and headphones. Eg. Innerfidelity, Goldenears, Seeko. etc.
>>
>>57200012
You're saying the 3 is more sibilant than the Hybrid, however, the larger scoop at 7khz in the Hybrid accentuates the 10k peak more than the 3.
Excessive energy past 10khz is never a good thing either. Take the LCD-4 as an example: it lacks in treble extension but is still sibilant due to everything past 10k.
To add on, putting more bass in an already bassy IEM just becomes a mud galore.
>>
>Budget
$150-175
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop, laptop, Blackberry Priv
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size/over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, or at least not entirely shitty to wear
>Preferred tonal balance
V
>Past headphones
Piston 3s
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